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Keith Thursby of the Daily Mirror blog at the Times notes that the close Proposition B vote in 1958 in favor of handing Chavez Ravine over to the Dodgers was made even closer by the fact that six Los Angeles City Council districts, including all four in the San Fernando Valley (where I grew up), voted against the measure.
Councilmen John Holland and Patrick McGee, two frequently quoted opponents of the stadium deal, served districts with the biggest margins against the Dodger contract.
Holland's 1970 obit by Times staff writer Doug Shuit included a quote that summed up his view of the contract. "It was the biggest steal of public lands and money since the trade for Manhattan Island with the Indians for a basket of beads," Holland said.
The city of Los Angeles had appopriated the land in Chavez Ravine long before the Dodgers' decision to move, but many found the notion that the public at large would enjoy seeing baseball games there to be small compensation.
The biggest support for Proposition B came from South Central, West L.A. and East L.A.
The tip of Bob's tongue.
How goes?
Good. I'm done with school, and may actually be getting a job within the next 12 months.
For example, lets say that in a typical game
23% of the fans are from the Westside
20% are from the eastside
30% are from the SF Valley
17% are from the Inland Empire
5% are from Orange County
and 4% are from Ventura County leaving
1% from "other"
What do you guys think the actual percentages are?
Inland Empire and Orange County (obviously) would have the lowest percentage of Dodger fans, IMO.
McGee and Corman did not like each other. McGee was quite a reactionary. Corman went on to serve in Congress. He was in line to become head of the House Ways and Means Committee after the 1980 elections, but lost to Republican Bobbi Fiedler by a very small margin.
The Harbor was big for Dodger Stadium too.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3470849
Michael Bluth to family:
"I got a job...You know, something you apply for and they pay you to... Never mind, I don't want to ruin the surprise."
Or, I meant "a bunch" in the same way Colletti explained that Pierre gets on base "a lot".
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Hey on Josh's post on Cardboard Gods re all-time Dodger teams, he's now broken it up into LA and Brooklyn teams. Help him fill in the gaps for best all-time by position:
Brooklyn
C: Campanella
1B: Hodges
2B: Robinson
SS: Reese
3B:
LF:
CF: Snider
RF: Wheat
SP:
RP:
Los Angeles
C: Piazza
1B: Garvey
2B:
SS:
3B: Cey
LF:
CF:
RF: Guerrero
SP: Koufax
RP: Gagne
Anybody got any thoughts on who fills in the various gaps?
Choi statline from using the google translator on the Kia Tigers home page:
In 120 ABs .208/.269/.333/4HRs
http://tinyurl.com/3k7rva
Also in looking at some message board which I couldn't find again there was a post saying he was listed on the DL with "Dizziness and Back Problems".
And then there's this 7/1 team report from Eastwindchronicle.com:
5. Kia Tigers (6) Closed the month a little cold after starting hot, but the Tigers have shown that they'll be knocking at the door of No. 4 during the second half. Cleanup hitter Jang Sung-ho, whose missed a lot of time this year, had a terrible 2 for 16 week after being one of the league's hottest hitters through the start of the month. With Choi Hee-seop out with general craziness Kia kind of goes as Jang goes.
LOL, um ok.
"Not one win gathered Lima is Kicked Out!"
Also Wilson Valdez was cut in June 1 believe so watch out.
I think we found a new reason for Milton Bradley to go on the DL.
Is craziness Korean for soreness? :-)
vr, Xei
In 1958 South Central still had a small, but significant white population. It didn't have much of a Latino population.
And the San Fernando Valley was pretty much split in 1958 so that most of the Republicans lived in the West Valley and more Democrats lived in the East Valley. The East Valley had a lot of unionized workers.
This was back in the day when L.A. was much more industrialized than it is now.
And lots and lots of airplanes were made here.
>> The Suns announced that seven of their players were picked for the July 14 Southern League All-Star Game in Zebulon, N.C. They are May, DeJesus, Gonzalez, infielder Russ Mitchell, outfielder Jamie Hoffmann, and pitchers James McDonald and Jesus Castillo. ... <<
http://tinyurl.com/6jhbmn
>> "The DL was to repair something, and I think it made (my knee) stronger, and now I'm ready to start playing."
The plan is for Jones to return after the All-Star break, but he has other things in mind.
"I'm trying to think about pushing it and coming back this weekend," he said. "We'll see how it goes these few days and go from there." <<
## Los Angeles infielder Nomar Garciaparra had no setbacks in his rehab from a strained left calf. He started at shortstop Tuesday and went 2-for-3 with two sharp singles and two runs scored in five innings. ... ##
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/22803924.html
Kemp - RF
Martin - C
Kent - 2B
Jones - CF
Loney - 1B
Ethier/Young - LF
LaRoche - 3B
Nomar - SS
?
In Andruw's case, red is an improvement over white.
131 IP
2.13 ERA
Thats amazing.
All in all, I think Dodger pitching this year has exceeded expectations. The only real disappointment has been Penny.
Tony Jackson says "within the hour." My NEW guess: Brian Falkenborg DFA (since they will need a 40-man spot for Nomar this week anyway).
>> Before any decisions are made, Garciaparra and Jones still have two games left at Triple-A, which Bundy said likely involves a schedule of the two players each taking a day in the field and a day at DH.
Although it's uncertain if either player will be ready to return by the weekend, they're headed in the right direction.
"I thought both of them looked a little bit better than they were yesterday, so a couple more days to go and hopefully they'll be ready to go," Bundy said. <<
http://tinyurl.com/5d6vcv
But he's 136 years old, so there's that.
Los Angeles
C: Piazza
1B: Garvey
2B: Lopes
SS: Furcal edges out Will, despite short teunure
3B: Cey
LF: Tommy Davis
CF: Willie Davis
RF: Guerrero
SP: Koufax
RP: Gagne
has not cracked the top 4 in all-star voting. What gives?
18 I will be the first to admit that the Inland Empire fan base is shrinking, but I do my best to make up for it. 70 games last season, probably 50+ this season. There are a lot "life long" (since 2002) Angel fans out here, but I don't see any real difference in advertising Dodgers vs. Angels.
If the Dodgers could put a winner on the field, the fan base would multiple three fold...for better or for worse.
http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/jTsX
Maury Wills is probably the right call, now that I look at baseball reference. He wasn't much above average, but Furcal was below average last year. I think I just see Furcal as the superior talent, but if that's the rule then Eddie Murray and the Toy Cannon and some others get in.
But I don't think there's any doubt it's Maury Wills, partially by default, but the guy also won an NL MVP award, when he had 130 runs and 104 stolen bases. He won Gold Gloves, etc. I don't think there's any doubt it's Wills, with the other guys a long ways off after him.
Russell
Wills
Furcal
Izturis
Duncan
Zimmer
Cora
Griffin
Gagne
Offerman
Rafael Furcal is one of the few SS's they've had who can both hit and field well above average. Usually they either had a great fielder who couldn't hit or a great hitter who looked lost in the field.
Why did he get moved in favor of Cora anyway? He wasn't a butcher out there.
I can not permanently block Offerman out of my head.
Russell was a steady player and clutch hitter with very good wrists that lead to increased doubles. Russell seemed to be at his best when the game was on the line.
My favorite Russell play was when he was 19 and playing CF. He threw a ball with his right foot planted against the CF wall on a line to second base that I swear never arched above his head. I had never seen a throw like that before.
I wonder if he could've hacked it in centerfield. But, hey, LA had Roger Cedeno, so they were set in CF.
And, if that didn't work out, there was Jose Gonzalez.
Ah, youth.
Kemp, CF
Ethier, RF
Martin, C
Kent, 2B
Loney, 1B
DeWitt, 3B
Young, LF
Maza, SS
Kuroda, P
Q: "What's that smell??"
A: "Juan Samuel!!"
http://daily.greencine.com/archives/006330.html
Till we meet again as they say.
Torre said he thinks Penny will start this weekend.
never liked the idea of going outside the family.
I didn't realize Michael Corleone posted here.
I've reasoned that any lineup without Juan Pierre at the top is refreshing to see.
Is it because he's too hard on the bullpen (per Sarah's take)? Because I don't think he's done a thing to earn a demotion except the duration of his starts, and that was a foregone conclusion each time he went out there.
Maybe this is just treading water til they know whether the formerly injured are really ready. Kershaw's demotion can be undone in a day. DFA'ing is for real.
it was good to see the flashes of brillence he showed at times, and still posted a 99 ERA+ at 20 years old with little to no command of the strike zone.
22 Dog, I'm having trouble seeing clearly into the past, but Lopes has to be there, as well as Piazza.
I see a big building with just Marty, Russ Stanton, and Bill Plaschke running around in it.
vr, Xei
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/07/huge-newsroom-c.htm
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