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Dodgers in 2-D
2008-07-08 10:30
by Jon Weisman

"Play Ball! Images of Dodger Blue, 1958-1988," a photo exhibit drawing exclusively from the Los Angeles Public Library's historic photo collection (that includes pics from the old Herald Examiner archives), opens July 12 at the downtown Central Library and runs through November 9 in the first floor galleries.

Few of these images have been seen in public since the Herald folded two decades ago. In addition, Dodger team historian Mark Langill will give a talk at noon on August 13.

2008-07-08 10:42:16
1.   Tom Meagher
I guess I'll un-LAT this from the last thread:

JoeyP/170 "This is Ned's 3rd year.
DePo only got 2yrs.
Evans got less."

Evans was on the job for 33 months, DePodesta for 20 months, and Colletti so far for 32 months.

2008-07-08 10:43:50
2.   underdog
I posted at end of last thread too, and don't know if anyone cares now but in response to Carlos' post about lose/loose:

245. underdog
237 It's definitely one of my top editorial pet peeves these days. No, it's not an alternate spelling. If you are pitcher and you lose a game, you are the losing pitcher. One "o." If you are going to go out and drink heavily and try to loosen up, you need an extra "o." As you do when there's a bison on the loose.

But if you are a loser, you spell it looser.

That's what I snarkily tell any freelance writers I work with if they ask.

2008-07-08 10:50:59
3.   silverwidow
Matt Kemp
Bryan Morris
Austin Gallagher
Justin Orenduff

This package compares favorably to what Cleveland got for CC, in my opinion.

2008-07-08 10:51:14
4.   underdog
Sort of amusing look at Kuroda's night from a Kansas City sportswriter's perspective:

2008-07-08 10:52:45
5.   underdog
3 It's better than what Cleveland got, because the above would include a major league talent, instead of all prospects. Granted, LaPorta should be in the ML next year, but he's still an unknown. I think the inclusion of Kemp would make it better automatically.
2008-07-08 10:58:20
6.   KG16
242 from the last post - I always understood the pecking order to be:

1. shortstop
2. third base
3. second base
4. first base

third, I think is considered more taxing because it is susceptible to pulled line drives from right handed hitters.

2008-07-08 11:18:28
7.   Bluebleeder87
if anybody signs CC for 6 years I will laugh.

If anybody signs CC for 3 years I will think they are genius.

2008-07-08 11:18:35
8.   Icaros

No, it goes SS, 2B, 3B, 1B.

Third really isn't taxing at all. You barely have to move. That's why catchers can play there.

2008-07-08 11:21:52
9.   regfairfield
7 Ha ha, you got one of the best pitchers in baseball doesn't seem like a good joke.
2008-07-08 11:22:22
10.   GoBears
6. No, you've got third and second flipped.

3rd base is basically the same as first base, with two exceptions. 3rd basemen have longer throws, while first basemen have many many many more chances and have to dig out others' lousy throws. As far as fielding balls off bats, the only difference between the corners is the number of RH vs. LH hitters.

Really, unless you've got Steve Garvey's "where is it going this time?" scattershot arm, I don't see why 3rd base is any tougher than 1st base, and it might be easier. Just ask Nomar. As I recall, he didn't even get a chance for the first two games that he played at 3b.

Middle infielders have much more to do, and less time to do it in, since the ball travels farther before it gets to them. 2nd base is SS for LH pull hitters (so fewer plays), albeit with an easier throw on routine GBs. 2Bmen also have to cover 1b when the 1bman charges.

2008-07-08 11:24:18
11.   Bluebleeder87
8 yup, aside from pitching that's my 2nd best position to play. You have to be quick there though not fast quick.
2008-07-08 11:24:53
12.   jasonungar07
If Jones can just start hitting a little, if Nomar can stay on the field and they don't mess with Ethier/Kemp when JP returns (and of course the pitching remains consistent) I like our chances....
2008-07-08 11:26:48
13.   Marty
The New York Times has asked Milton Bradley to blog the All Star game for them.
2008-07-08 11:27:53
14.   Bluebleeder87
9 I don't know man, he's to big to be good for a long time no?
2008-07-08 11:29:10
15.   Kevin Lewis
I am sure it was discussed yesterday, but the FJM article on Plaschke is awesome!
2008-07-08 11:30:21
16.   regfairfield
14 He's good enough that I really don't care if he can't live up to the back end of the contract.

It also seems like fat pitchers have longer life spans than fat hitters but I could be wrong about it.

2008-07-08 11:31:08
17.   fanerman
12 I would seriously think that JP getting injured for a couple months has to be Kemp's insurance policy to getting traded. Unless we got another OF for Kemp, we'd just be creating another hole, since our starting LF is on the DL. Kemp couldn't possibly have soured the front office THAT much, right?
2008-07-08 11:34:43
18.   underdog
15 It truly is. I laughed so hard I almost did a spit-take. Reading it is as cathartic as reading Plaschke is depressing. So many quotable parts.

>>Stop. Read back all that Bill Plaschke has written. Is there one thing -- one thing -- about actual baseball?

I think it's possible that Plaschke believes "baseball" is the name for a leadership camp you go to that teaches you about "brands," "cultures," "atmospheres," and "belief systems.>BP: But it is those Angels who have a better understanding of winning.

FJM: Sure, sure. Kemp, Ethier, and Loney have nothing going for them except better OPSes, ceilings, and ages than Kotchman, Izturis, and Aybar.<<

2008-07-08 11:36:50
19.   cargill06
12 that's quite a few if's and a couple of them need to be IF
2008-07-08 11:39:33
20.   Ken Noe
15 18 The Angels are all about winning in October.

([sigh] All together now,) THE DODGERS --

The Dodgers are all about surviving tonight.

2008-07-08 11:45:32
21.   underdog
20 Plaschke really does write like he's doing an elementary school-level fairy tale.

No, that's an insult to elementary school students. Try pre-school. "See the Angels run. Run, Angels, run. See the Angels win. See the Dodgers lose. Lose, Dodgers, lose. The Dodgers are very sad."

2008-07-08 11:45:43
22.   ToyCannon
Mickey Lolich is the fat pitcher I think about whenever someone says something negative about fat pitchers.
2008-07-08 11:47:22
23.   natepurcell
Even if Sabathia gets 6 years, that only brings him to his age 34 season.

He is still really young for a premier free agent.

2008-07-08 11:51:46
24.   Jon Weisman
22 - I guess I think of Terry Forster. Is that too obvious?
2008-07-08 11:55:52
25.   Eric Stephen
Sid Fernandez, Rick Reuschel, Ray King also all come to mind.
2008-07-08 11:57:42
26.   Jon Weisman
2008-07-08 12:00:18
27.   ToyCannon
The big tub of goo was certainly round. Does anyone remember that nickname?

I was just shocked to find out that Lolich only had a career ERA+ of 105. He did however have the 3 complete games in the 68 series that were stamped upon my brain.

I did a quick search on baseball-reference but it is hard to determine what is fat. Lolich was only listed at 210 lbs. They need to list the girth.

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