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It's Official: Dodgers Out of Vero Beach
2008-07-11 17:44
by Jon Weisman

The Dodgers have officially terminated their facility use agreement with Dodgertown in Vero Beach, reported The Associated Press.

"I guess there's no particular place in the world - including my home - that holds more memories for me than Dodgertown," Hall of Fame broadcaster Vin Scully said Friday in the Dodger Stadium press box that bears his name.

"I've been going there for 59 years, and just imagine the parade of players, coaches, newspapermen, owners and managers that went through there. So it really has always been cherished ground for me. But nothing is forever, and it was time. I mean, that was hallowed ground for the Brooklyn Dodgers. But it should be closer to Los Angeles, so I'm all for it. To me, there's no deep sentiment. I'm not touched by leaving there." ...

Scully, who had former Dodgers coach Leo Durocher as a roommate at Dodgertown for several years, is one of a handful of Dodger luminaries over the years who have been honored with a street named after him in Vero Beach. This spring, he asked Callan to save him one of the signs that say "Vin Scully Way."

"It's one of those things that would be nice to have," Scully said. "I'll hang it on the front door of the house and really confuse the mailman."

* * *

Marlins at Dodgers, 7:40 p.m.

Comments (429)
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2008-07-11 17:49:43
1.   underdog
Heh. That last quote from Scully is cute.

Now 3-1 Phils over the DBacks.

2008-07-11 17:50:15
2.   GoBears
Probably just my underworked optimistic side, but that quote from Scully makes it sound like he plans to keep his current job for a little longer.
2008-07-11 17:51:11
3.   GoBears
2 I meant the part of the quote about the move, not the part about the sign.
2008-07-11 17:52:33
4.   bhsportsguy
Apparently with 2 out and runners on 2nd and 3rd, Doug Davis wild pitched a run home while pitching to the 8th place hitter and then with the pitcher up and a 1-2 count, the Phillies pulled off a steal of home with the runner on 1st getting tagged out after the fact.

3-1 Phillies going to the 7th.

2008-07-11 17:52:59
5.   Hallux Valgus
I wish Vin was my grandpa. I mean, I love my grandpa, but I've only got one, so there's an opening. I wonder if he takes applications.
2008-07-11 17:54:57
6.   Bob Timmermann
I got a sneak peak at the Dodgers photo exhibit at the Central Library as detailed here:

It's not a huge collection because of the space, but the selections are quite compelling.

My favorite shot is from Game 6 of the 1985 NLCS. It shows fans in the LF pavilion reaching for Jack Clark's home run ball while a disgusted Pedro Guerrero gets ready to slam his glove down on the ground.

There's a good mix between iconic shots and some that are quite unexpected.

2008-07-11 17:56:44
7.   Icaros
Phillies suck.
2008-07-11 17:57:03
8.   Alex41592
3-3 in Philly
2008-07-11 17:58:31
9.   Eric Enders
It must be quite weird to be Vin's mailman or someone else who runs into him in everyday life.

If he answers the phone when his wife isn't home, does he say "She is gone"?

2008-07-11 18:01:09
10.   Icaros
My dad delivered mail to Rick Monday and a few other Dodgers in the late 70s.
2008-07-11 18:02:30
11.   Hallux Valgus
I hope this doesn't violate rule 5, but Keith Olbermann appears to be answering questions via phone from the Mets game right now.
2008-07-11 18:03:48
12.   bigcpa
11 Begone left winger!
2008-07-11 18:05:15
13.   Hallux Valgus
12 maybe I was scouting the opposition!
2008-07-11 18:05:31
14.   bigcpa
I think I nailed rule #3, #5 and #7 in 3 words.
2008-07-11 18:06:31
15.   bigcpa
13 Good one.
2008-07-11 18:07:38
16.   PalmdaleSteve1

No mentioning "Bathtub Boy" is a violation of rules, 3, 7, 10, 11, and 12. Who cares about rule 5, well unless you're Josh Hamilton.

2008-07-11 18:08:46
17.   Prescott Pete
Those darn AZ youngsters.
2008-07-11 18:09:09
18.   PalmdaleSteve1
0 when do we start planning the DT road trip to Phoenix ? Early or late in Spring training, which is better?

2008-07-11 18:10:34
19.   bhsportsguy
17 Actually, probably the big addition is Chad Tracy.
2008-07-11 18:11:13
20.   68elcamino427
That is a good one!
2008-07-11 18:11:45
21.   natepurcell

You guys can crash at my apt.

2008-07-11 18:12:04
22.   Prescott Pete
19 And Emilio Bonifacio.
2008-07-11 18:13:27
23.   bhsportsguy
22 Who, prior to that at bat was 0-7 against RHP with 5 strikeouts, why do I want to believe that his double was a flair down the LF line.
2008-07-11 18:13:59
24.   natepurcell

Only if you bring booze though.

2008-07-11 18:14:18
25.   timm
I'm wondering if any of our stat guys here have any idea how many games they think DeWitt has saved with his glove?
2008-07-11 18:14:35
26.   PalmdaleSteve1

Are there any Native American casinos near Phoenix? Might as well mix two vices in one trip, gambling and the Dodgers, Prescott is too far to go.

2008-07-11 18:15:45
27.   Hallux Valgus
24 hmm, is this by quantity or quality?
2008-07-11 18:16:15
28.   PalmdaleSteve1

I want to stay in Larry Bowa's hotel....the chance to breath the same air as Larry is just...just...makes me want to wear a helmet or something.

2008-07-11 18:16:50
29.   Alex41592
Phillies have 1st and 3rd for Utley with one out down by one in the seventh.
2008-07-11 18:16:57
30.   natepurcell

Yes, there are Indian Casinos in Phx.


Doesn't matter!

2008-07-11 18:17:56
31.   Eric Stephen
Amazing double play by Orlando Hudson (and Stephen Drew) to keep it 4-3 AZ. Bad luck for Utley, who hit a smash to 2B.
2008-07-11 18:18:23
32.   Alex41592
Orlando Hudson is incredible. Still 4-3 AZ in the eighth.
2008-07-11 18:18:37
33.   Hallux Valgus
30 Quantity + Quality= super fun blurry time. Also given the plethora of vices that can be placated in the area.
2008-07-11 18:18:56
34.   Prescott Pete
23 Let our flairs be so effective.
2008-07-11 18:19:30
35.   El Lay Dave
24 Because you'll be bringing the women?
2008-07-11 18:20:07
36.   Uncle Miltie
Nate, did you get a job in Phoenix? Have you graduated yet? I'm actually considering staying in Oregon (Portland) after I graduate.
2008-07-11 18:20:08
37.   bhsportsguy
Chase Utley had only grounded into 3 double plays and he had 5 sacrifice flys, plus he was 2 for 3 lifetime against Chad Qualls. And then he hits into a first pitch 4-6-3 double play to end the inning.
2008-07-11 18:21:43
38.   natepurcell

Yes and yes. I start in August. I'm just hanging out now.

2008-07-11 18:21:46
39.   Hallux Valgus
24 et al... it seems you have awakened a monster.
2008-07-11 18:28:38
40.   tethier
25 I don't know if there is any stat that could tell us that, but I've often thought that part of the reason Torre keeps playing DeWitt is because of his glove. He may feel that right now LaRoche and DeWitt will give him similar offensive production but DeWitt is better in the field. I'm not saying DeWitt is, but he has looked pretty good and that may be the perception of management. He certainly looked good fielding that bunt the other night.
2008-07-11 18:31:00
41.   Gen3Blue
Indiana (from last post:368) if you want Laroche at third that is fine with me, I just hadn't got down to that level of detail yet.
2008-07-11 18:32:10
42.   Alex41592
40 - Going over a month without an error would probably help that assumption as DeWitt has done.
2008-07-11 18:38:53
43.   Alex41592
Shane Victorino 2 RBI triple! 5-5 in the eighth.
2008-07-11 18:39:18
44.   tethier
Phils just tied it 5-5 - on a triple by Victorino - bottom of the 8th.
2008-07-11 18:39:59
45.   bhsportsguy
I was wrong.

The rotation to begin the second half will be per Tony Jackson, Kuroda, Billingsley, Lowe, Park and Stults. Penny is not expected back until the end of the month, I guess Schmidt's rehab assignment is up around then too.

Kershaw will bide his time in Jacksonville for a while.

2008-07-11 18:41:17
46.   tethier
42 He's looked good to me - can't say much about Andy since he hasn't been out there enough to form an opinion.
2008-07-11 18:41:57
47.   Eric Stephen
Wow, Kuroda goes from might be stretched/bumped to first game out the chute!
2008-07-11 18:41:58
48.   Eric Enders
DeWitt in his MLB career has made 0.11 errors per nine innings at third base. LaRoche has made 0.12.
2008-07-11 18:43:30
49.   Eric Stephen
Blake DeWitt has been very good thus far defensively. From Bill James Online, he is given an A- grade on bunts (3rd in MLB among 3B), and has a plus/minus rating of +8, which is 7th in MLB.
2008-07-11 18:44:17
50.   Bob Timmermann
Orange alert for Brian Roberts in Boston. This is an orange alert.
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2008-07-11 18:45:44
51.   jasonungar07
Oh Boy so does that mean we have to actually play Schmidt? Or can we re DL him or how does that work. The whole thing is a charade.
2008-07-11 18:45:58
52.   Eric Enders
49 It'll mean nothing due to sample size, but what does he have for Andy last year?
2008-07-11 18:46:55
53.   Alex41592
Phillies will have to walkoff to win it. 5-5 Top 9.
2008-07-11 18:47:08
54.   Eric Enders
51 If Schmidt wants to play the part of Brian Falkenborg for a while, he can be my guest, but I wouldn't support putting him back in the rotation.
2008-07-11 18:48:38
55.   bhsportsguy
51 He doesn't have to be activated but he can no longer pitch rehab assignments in the minors. If he is not ready, he'll have to pitch simulated games.

My hunch is that if he builds up to 90 pitches, they'll start him just to see where he is at.

2008-07-11 18:48:51
56.   Eric Stephen
Brian Roberts when I dropped him from my fantasy squad: .268/.355/.419, with 14 SB in 52 games.

Since, he is .320/.393/.562, with 11 SB in 36 games.

2008-07-11 18:49:50
57.   tethier
54 he'll be in the rotation until he's 1-4 and goes back on the DL.
2008-07-11 18:50:08
58.   bhsportsguy
54 Another pronouncement from the dugout, if and when he returns, it will be as a starter.

Which is probably fair considering, one, the money they allotted to pay him and two, he has been a starter is entire career.

2008-07-11 18:51:35
59.   Eric Stephen
LaRoche 2007:

237 innings at 3B
D grade on bunts (3 opportunities)
+1 on the plus/minus

DeWitt, for comparison, has 642 innings at 3B this season.

2008-07-11 18:53:05
60.   StolenMonkey86
Roberts is up now.
2008-07-11 18:53:12
61.   Eric Enders
58 I don't doubt that's the logic that will be used. I'll merely note that the surest sign of a bad organization is that it assigns roles to players based on how much money they make, rather than baseball-related factors.
2008-07-11 18:53:22
62.   jasonungar07
You think he would win a game? I bet he goes 2 innings and is DL'ed again.
2008-07-11 18:54:17
63.   Eric Stephen
What we all need is for Bob to proclaim that Schmidt will never pitch effectively for the Dodgers again.
2008-07-11 18:56:34
64.   StolenMonkey86
swinging strikeout. The O's are up 6-3, so they won't see Papelbon. They could still bat around.
2008-07-11 19:00:39
65.   68elcamino427
I hope that Schmidt can be an effective MLB pitcher next year, but I'm not counting on it.
2008-07-11 19:02:29
66.   Alex41592
Lidge does his job. Werth, Utley and Howard due up in the bottom half of the ninth. 5-5.
2008-07-11 19:03:23
67.   tethier
65 well if he is - one year for $47 million or whatever he was paid. Right now, I think that is the best we can hope for.
2008-07-11 19:05:18
68.   Eric Enders
These Friday games that start 30 minutes late kind of creep me out. The extra half-hour feels like a vacuum. Give me baseball already! It's Friday! I have stuff to do!
2008-07-11 19:08:23
69.   scareduck
9 - has Vin remarried since his wife died? I'm totally serious here, I don't honestly know.
2008-07-11 19:10:10
70.   68elcamino427
Here's a thought related to the last thread.

Moreno - United States Marine Corp and self made man.

McCourt - Managing the family fortune that he was born into.

2008-07-11 19:10:52
71.   scareduck
68 - for only $120 or whatever it is, you can get Extra Innings and watch the Mets beat up on the Rockies.
2008-07-11 19:11:55
72.   scareduck
70 - kind of. Arte took a family business and parlayed it into a much larger fortune, sort of like Howard Hughes that way only without the koo-koo for Coco Puffs thing at the end. So far.
2008-07-11 19:13:14
73.   Eric Enders
69 I guess I don't know either. I know his first wife died in the early seventies in, um, tragic circumstances. He remarried a woman who was a secretary for the L.A. Rams. I was under the impression that his second wife was still alive.
2008-07-11 19:13:35
74.   scareduck
72 - I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think it's entirely fair to bag on McCourt for what he did with his family's money. After all, the property he purchased turned out to be quite valuable -- just not quite valuable enough to make anyone comfortable with his "buying" the Dodgers assets.
2008-07-11 19:16:56
75.   Bob Timmermann
Jason Schmidt will never pitch effectively again for the Dodgers.
2008-07-11 19:16:59
76.   Alex41592
Free baseball in Philly.
2008-07-11 19:18:11
77.   Eric Stephen
From the I miss Ross Porter stat file...

Starting pitchers with a last name beginning with V are 43-33 (.566 win%) all-time against the LA Dodgers.

2008-07-11 19:18:39
78.   Eric Enders
For some reason Bob felt it necessary to include the word "again" in his post.
2008-07-11 19:20:36
79.   Eric Stephen
He was being a good solider!
2008-07-11 19:21:52
80.   Eric Stephen
Schmidt has pitched one good game for LA: 6 scoreless IP in SD last June.

2008-07-11 19:22:06
81.   MC Safety
Joe Torre Upside Down cake.
2008-07-11 19:23:26
82.   68elcamino427
Not able to reference the article that appeared -in the OC Register or the Times -
it portrayed Moreno as a guy that just got out of the service and took a job as a salesman for outdoor billboard ads and just worked his way up the ladder until he bought the company and then followed the path that you describe. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly or maybe it was just good PR?
2008-07-11 19:25:36
83.   Bob Timmermann
Looks like there will be two unrrelated Buchholzes taking losses tonight.
2008-07-11 19:28:12
84.   Eric Stephen
Montero's foul ball of his foot gets counted as a fair ball groundout to 1B. Runner stranded at 3B; time for the Phils to end this just in "time for Dodger baseball."
2008-07-11 19:28:24
85.   JoeyP
Short Chris Young is really sucking for the D-bax.

He's had now over 1,000 Abs in the bigs with little improvement.

Not a good sign for them.

2008-07-11 19:29:56
86.   Eric Stephen
The Flyin' Hawaiian© is on the loose!
2008-07-11 19:30:30
87.   68elcamino427
Not bagging on McCourt for his business acumen. The public comments attributed to McCourt regarding the young players leaves alot to be deired for me. For that I am bagging on him. Better presentation vs. alot to be desired in what is being presented?
2008-07-11 19:31:00
88.   Johnny Nucleo
While we're waiting for the game to start, I have a suggestion for a trade that Ned could make that would save his job and help him get back on Plaschke's good side.
Ned should package a player who has been good for the Dodgers but is getting a bit past his prime with a middling outfielder and one of our bullpen setup men and try to get a young starting pitcher with a World Series ring who knows how to win. Everyone would love it.
2008-07-11 19:31:51
89.   das411
86 - and he has a triple, double and single now correct? So if they strand him again we might possibly have an alert?
2008-07-11 19:32:15
90.   Eric Stephen
I see what you did there. :)
2008-07-11 19:32:26
91.   JoeyP
Werth can win it!

IBB'ing Rollins to get to Werth.
Not smart.

2008-07-11 19:32:58
92.   Eric Stephen
Old Friend Jason Werth up with runners on 1st & 2nd, with 2 outs in the 10th.
2008-07-11 19:35:51
93.   Eric Stephen
Werth pops up, so I believe that makes an Orange Alert for Shane Victorino.
2008-07-11 19:37:25
94.   das411
Thank you Jayson Werth!!

No really, now we can all stand down from the alert for Brian Roberts. Yes that means you,

2008-07-11 19:38:13
95.   Eric Enders
Wow, the FBI is investigating Jim Bowden. (And it's not for signing Cristian Guzman.)
2008-07-11 19:38:24
96.   Eric Stephen
Oh man, tonight and tomorrow night the Dodgers are on KCAL which means Marlins' broadcasters for me.
2008-07-11 19:39:17
97.   Eric Stephen
Is that the international signing investigation that Keith Law alluded to in his chat the other day?
2008-07-11 19:39:44
98.   Eric Stephen
Oh yeah, and that's All-Star Cristian Guzman to you, bub! :)
2008-07-11 19:39:54
99.   Bob Timmermann
Cycle alert canceled in Boston.

Stand down.

2008-07-11 19:41:07
100.   Alex41592
Gonzalez is not playing the numbers by going righty heavy against Stults.
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2008-07-11 19:41:28
101.   El Lay Dave
Romero grounded out to Romero to start the 11th.
2008-07-11 19:41:29
102.   Eric Enders
97 Yep.
2008-07-11 19:42:12
103.   Bob Timmermann
Orange alert for Shane Victorino in Philadelphia. This is an orange alert.
2008-07-11 19:42:50
104.   Indiana Jon
96 I'm stuck with you.
2008-07-11 19:43:06
105.   Eric Stephen
Nomar receiving that throw looked quite awkward. That looked like an injury waiting to happen.
2008-07-11 19:43:50
106.   Eric Stephen
In the middle?
2008-07-11 19:43:54
107.   Hallux Valgus
that was unpleasant.
2008-07-11 19:44:19
108.   Eric Enders
104 Fortunately (unfortunately?) I don't have to listen to Eric Stephen call the game. I have to listen to Tommy Hutton, though.
2008-07-11 19:44:45
109.   StolenMonkey86
88 - Adam Wainwright?
2008-07-11 19:45:24
110.   Eric Stephen
Holy crap, I didn't realize Bowden is only 46.
2008-07-11 19:45:30
111.   bablue
Uh, how long 'til Penny's back?
2008-07-11 19:46:00
112.   Hallux Valgus
aw, jeez. unacceptable
2008-07-11 19:46:23
113.   Alex41592
I think Stults misses Vegas.
2008-07-11 19:46:35
114.   tethier
This is not going to be pretty...
2008-07-11 19:46:38
115.   Eric Stephen
I would have a ton of Major League references peppered into my broadcast though. I would probably devolve off-topic into whining about Vince Young, though.
2008-07-11 19:46:38
116.   Neal Pollack
Uh. How long until Kershaw's back? We sent him down instead of this guy.
2008-07-11 19:46:49
117.   68elcamino427
Extended BP tonight.
2008-07-11 19:46:50
118.   MC Safety
Well, it was fun while it lasted Stults. Time to bring back Clayton.
2008-07-11 19:47:24
119.   Dodger Dawg
Good bye Vero Beach we hardly knew you.
2008-07-11 19:47:45
120.   Eric Stephen
I would start worrying if Mark Fainaru-Wada started asking questions about me.
2008-07-11 19:47:54
121.   Hallux Valgus
115 references like, "Juust a bit outside?" Because I would watch that broadcast.
2008-07-11 19:49:15
122.   Indiana Jon
115 I would listen to him if he had Bob and Marty in together as 7th inning guests.
2008-07-11 19:50:06
123.   El Lay Dave
100 Any split with Stults is small sample size city. Just removing Fred Lewis (5-6 against Stults) drops the LH BA from .366 to .323, for example.

I see the numbers against him for both sides is rising.

2008-07-11 19:50:45
124.   Bob Timmermann
Marty and I will go to the press box and see if we can be guests.
2008-07-11 19:51:23
125.   Eric Enders
Utley-Howard-Pitcher due up. Did the Phils really remove one of the league's top 5 hitters from the game?
2008-07-11 19:51:48
126.   El Lay Dave
DBacks with four outs in the top of the 11th, the old K/WP occurred. Phils up in the bottom 11th, still tied.
2008-07-11 19:53:16
127.   Indiana Jon
The highlight of the first inning so far is my large bowl of orange Jello (sugar free).
2008-07-11 19:53:39
128.   El Lay Dave
125 Burrell was PR-ed for in the 8th - that was the tying run.
2008-07-11 19:53:41
129.   Eric Enders
DBacks got five outs in the eleventh as they had a runner get picked off and then Rollins flubbed the throw from Howard.
2008-07-11 19:53:55
130.   Sam DC
Allright, where's my thunder. Who's got it.

Is there a stealer of thunder around here?

2008-07-11 19:54:58
131.   Indiana Jon
125 In there defense, he's not even an All-Star.
2008-07-11 19:55:12
132.   El Lay Dave
Five true-outcomes in one inning - not good. (Six if you're willing to throw in the HBP.)
2008-07-11 19:55:16
133.   Bob Timmermann
OK, time for a walkoff cycle for Victorino
2008-07-11 19:55:22
134.   Eric Enders
Mr. Orange Alert is up with the winning run on second and two outs.
2008-07-11 19:55:26
135.   Eric Stephen
I would welcome any DTer as a guest during the broadcast, even Shimmin, assuming of course he would answer hard-hitting Eric Byrnes related questions.
2008-07-11 19:55:54
136.   El Lay Dave
1st and 2nd, two out, Flyin' Hawaiian up.
2008-07-11 19:55:55
137.   das411
Awww and the O-Dog lets us stand down for another inning or two :(
2008-07-11 19:56:03
138.   Hallux Valgus
2008-07-11 19:56:40
139.   tethier
Kemp is wearing glasses...
2008-07-11 19:57:26
140.   ucladodger
Kemp needs to swing the damn bat. He takes to many called hrid strikes because he fails to hit pitchers mistake consistently. Volstand threw two fastballs ovetr the heart and a hanging breaking ball. This dude doesnt strike out anyone and he makes Kemp look stupid.
2008-07-11 19:57:35
141.   El Lay Dave
Non-pertinent stat of the moment. According to THT - Only 1.5% of Matt Kemp's fly ball outs are on the infield.
2008-07-11 19:57:44
142.   Eric Enders
139 Buddy Holly or Brian Bosworth?
2008-07-11 19:58:05
143.   Hallux Valgus
sorry Vin, I definitely do not remember the Volstead Act. And I think we're better off ignoring it.
2008-07-11 19:58:36
144.   Eric Enders is now showing me an ad for Bob's Statue of Liberty toy. "Own a piece of All-Star Game history!"
2008-07-11 19:59:23
145.   underdog
137 Would you tell your Phillies to win already!

Well, that top of the first could've gone better. I wouldn't give up on this game just yet, though.

2008-07-11 20:00:19
146.   Bob Timmermann
Vin has to stop getting jokes out of "Highlights."
2008-07-11 20:00:36
147.   Indiana Jon
140 The Dodger coaching staff has done two things to Kemp this year that have made him a worse hitter, although they may help him improve in the long run. They are teaching him patience and he is definitely taking more pitches. He's just taking the wrong ones. In addition, they are teaching him to hit the opposite way and it's hurting his power. I wish they would just let him go back to being wild swinging 2007 Kemp.
2008-07-11 20:01:29
148.   El Lay Dave
Old friend Rudy Seanez pitching for the Phils.
2008-07-11 20:01:45
149.   underdog
Some first time vs. the pitcher kind of swings in this first inning. Get it out of your system now, guys.
2008-07-11 20:02:14
150.   El Lay Dave
147 Bison are better wild rather than domesticated.
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2008-07-11 20:02:18
151.   ucladodger

I've been saying that the least 2 months. Its not surprising that their "instruction" has made him a far less effective hitter now. It might help him in the future, but the production does not come near what it needs to be for the strikeout numbers.

2008-07-11 20:02:48
152.   underdog
148 Sigh. Waiting for the "in play, run(s)"
2008-07-11 20:03:20
153.   Bob Timmermann
Vin keeps saying "flavor" in place of "favor."
2008-07-11 20:03:53
154.   El Lay Dave
152 LOL - Hudson, Jackson, Tracy went 1-2-3.
2008-07-11 20:04:39
155.   underdog
I shouldn't have doubted old friend Rudy!
2008-07-11 20:04:46
156.   Eric Enders
153 At least he's not saying Flavor Flav.
2008-07-11 20:04:54
157.   Andrew Shimmin
152- Looked like O-Dawg was going to come through, but he choked. J.D. Drew's little brother is rubbing off on him.
2008-07-11 20:05:26
158.   underdog
153 Aw. He's just like my mom, who used to say "Do me a flavor" just to be annoying.
2008-07-11 20:06:13
159.   Alex41592
Lead off hitter on for Phillies in the 12th.
2008-07-11 20:06:15
160.   El Lay Dave
Yet Kemp has a 26.3% line drive pct. this year (THT). Man, the liner he hit right at Uggla to start the last inning last night was smoked - Uggla may have a mark left from that one.
2008-07-11 20:06:19
161.   Indiana Jon
What I can't understand is why they still think Kemp is uncoachable. He's obviously listening to them, even when he shouldn't.
2008-07-11 20:06:20
162.   Bob Timmermann
The Phillies better win soon because they have no position players left and just one more reliever.
2008-07-11 20:07:17
163.   MC Safety
There's no doubt in my mind Matt Kemp would have upwards of 15 homers if he were on the Marlins.
2008-07-11 20:07:56
164.   Eric Enders
Ariz decides against pulling the IBB Rollins/pitch to Werth gambit again.
2008-07-11 20:08:16
165.   underdog
Walk him! Walk Hanley!
2008-07-11 20:08:41
166.   Marty
That damn Kemp. He's too coachable. Trade him.
2008-07-11 20:08:48
167.   Eric Enders
Nevermind, they throw J-Roll a couple of pitches and then decide to walk him again.
2008-07-11 20:09:04
168.   El Lay Dave
164 They got fickle!
2008-07-11 20:09:15
169.   Andrew Shimmin
C'mon Werth, prove BH right about you. . .
2008-07-11 20:09:34
170.   tethier
147 I agree - he seems better suited to just go up there and free-swing. Keeping in mind that the picthes have to be in the strike zone. Right now it seems like they give him hittable picthes early, and he takes them. Then he chasing the picther's pitches. Someone, today I think, mentioned that he is "overcoached." Seems reasonable.
2008-07-11 20:09:56
171.   Hallux Valgus
161 It's because they tell him to hit for a higher average, and more home runs, and he apparently refuses. It's like when I coached little league. Whenever they'd lose, I'd give them advice like "score more runs than the other team." Not my fault if they don't listen. Stupid kids.
2008-07-11 20:10:22
172.   underdog
Woo hoo! Well done, Stultsie.
2008-07-11 20:10:25
173.   Indiana Jon
Phils win!
2008-07-11 20:10:27
174.   das411
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WERTH!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-07-11 20:10:27
175.   Eric Stephen
Woo hoo!!! Werth ends it.
2008-07-11 20:10:36
176.   Icaros
2008-07-11 20:10:44
177.   Jon Weisman
140 - Ucla, I know you mean well, but the anger that comes out so often with Kemp is getting to be a bit much. Just say what you want to say without the intensity. Thanks.
2008-07-11 20:10:59
178.   Alex41592
1/2 game back.
2008-07-11 20:11:03
179.   underdog
Old friend Jayson Werth wins it for old friend Seanez!
2008-07-11 20:11:05
180.   Andrew Shimmin
2008-07-11 20:11:10
181.   Bob Timmermann
Cycle alert canceled in Philadelphia.

Stand down.

2008-07-11 20:11:47
182.   Eric Enders
I read [172-176] before the event actually happened on
2008-07-11 20:12:33
183.   Eric Stephen
Including tonight, Ryan Howard has a 14-game hitting streak, with 9 HR and a .357/.438/.839 line.
2008-07-11 20:12:34
184.   Hallux Valgus
Andruw makes me sad. That was awful.
2008-07-11 20:13:22
185.   sporky
How good is this kid expected to be?
2008-07-11 20:14:20
186.   Indiana Jon
185 I expect him to be better than Stults.
2008-07-11 20:14:30
187.   Hallux Valgus
well, at least Stults stays warm. Way to work the count guys.
2008-07-11 20:15:06
188.   Alex41592
185 - He'd make an excellent San Diego Padre.
2008-07-11 20:16:07
189.   Eric Enders
185 Baseball America's scouting report on him says "he projects as a solid No. 3 starter for years to come."
2008-07-11 20:16:16
190.   scareduck
What's up with the Volstead act, anyway? Didn't I watch this game yesterday?
2008-07-11 20:16:57
191.   scareduck
Nice play, old man.
2008-07-11 20:17:00
192.   Indiana Jon
See? Kent has range.
2008-07-11 20:17:08
193.   sporky
Based on the pattern established during the past few days, the Dodgers should win so they can tie AZ as sub-.500 division leaders.
2008-07-11 20:17:30
194.   tethier
nice play by kent...
2008-07-11 20:18:18
195.   sporky
Kent's range > Nomar's range
2008-07-11 20:18:27
196.   Eric Stephen
Marlins announcers don't understand park factors.
2008-07-11 20:18:40
197.   underdog
What's up with the Moustache these days? Did he drink from the fountain of youth? Is he Benjamin Button?
2008-07-11 20:18:55
198.   scareduck
"Marine biology"? He doesn't look ... uh ...
2008-07-11 20:19:19
199.   underdog
196 Why are you listening to Marlins announcers, pray tell?
2008-07-11 20:19:48
200.   scareduck
196 - why are you listening to the Fish feed?
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2008-07-11 20:19:59
201.   Eric Stephen
Because the greater LA basin decided they needed Eric Karros and the pregame on KCAL.
2008-07-11 20:20:04
202.   Hallux Valgus
197 My buddy is an editor on the Benjamin Button flick! woo hoo!
2008-07-11 20:20:34
203.   Eric Stephen
199 ,200
To clarify, because I don't have DirecTV, so I can't choose the feed I want.
2008-07-11 20:20:58
204.   sporky
I'd pay Ethier to shave. Or pay KCAL/FSN to blur out his noggin.
2008-07-11 20:21:37
205.   Eric Stephen
Uggla swing on that single.
2008-07-11 20:21:58
206.   scareduck
204 - you have something against facial hair?
2008-07-11 20:22:51
207.   Hallux Valgus
206 against THAT facial hair
2008-07-11 20:23:00
208.   Alex41592
Nice play by DeWitt to pick it.
2008-07-11 20:24:01
209.   tethier
Good thinking on DeWitt's part on that play too.
2008-07-11 20:24:02
210.   underdog
203 Ah! Gotcha.

Hmm. Maybe I'll watch a DVD and watch this one on fast forward later. This game is all poopy so far.

2008-07-11 20:24:32
211.   Bob Timmermann
Mike Scioscia decided that one night after his starter gave up 15 hits in 5 2/3 innings, he wouldn't press his luck and took out Garland after he gave up 10 hits in 2 2/3 innings.

Fortunately, Scioscia will get the Angels to win the game by the sheer force of his personality.

2008-07-11 20:24:45
212.   sporky
206 Just ugly facial hair.
2008-07-11 20:25:52
213.   scareduck
211 - that's exactly why I've got the Dodgers on the TV.

I still hate Denon.

2008-07-11 20:26:39
214.   sporky
This Volstad fellow has a Kurodan pitch count.
2008-07-11 20:27:02
215.   sporky
2008-07-11 20:27:07
216.   Alex41592
That's Matt Kemp.
2008-07-11 20:27:41
217.   Hallux Valgus
based on the way I spent my lunch hour, I will now refer to Matt Kemp as Hancock.
2008-07-11 20:27:52
218.   tethier
Now - no glasses...
2008-07-11 20:28:02
219.   68elcamino427
The Bison makes a contribution to the offense.
2008-07-11 20:28:03
220.   underdog
Whew! No perfect game.
2008-07-11 20:28:18
221.   Johnny Nucleo
211 That used to be the Dodger way!!!
2008-07-11 20:29:10
222.   underdog
Oh wait. Never mind me.

So who is Ethier trying to emulate with that sad handlebar moustache attempt?

2008-07-11 20:29:36
223.   Andrew Shimmin
Wyatt Earp.

Or maybe a village person.

2008-07-11 20:29:52
224.   sporky
My great aunt.
2008-07-11 20:30:26
225.   El Lay Dave
220 Ethier singled in the first.
2008-07-11 20:31:09
226.   El Lay Dave
Snidely Whiplash.
2008-07-11 20:31:24
227.   El Lay Dave
224 LOL
2008-07-11 20:31:36
228.   scareduck
223 , 224 - Wyatt Earp is your great aunt?

American mythology is in desperate need of a revamping!

2008-07-11 20:31:51
229.   El Lay Dave
Wasn't it a sad fu manchu attempt last night?
2008-07-11 20:31:55
230.   Hallux Valgus
222 an ugly game of Tetris
2008-07-11 20:33:02
231.   68elcamino427
Is Ross 27 years old?

Just wonder'in

2008-07-11 20:33:09
232.   Hallux Valgus
Also a product of Steubenville, Ohio- my grandfather.
2008-07-11 20:33:47
233.   Bob Timmermann
The last time the Angels had two consecutive starting pitchers give up double digits in hits was toward the end of the 2005 season. Ervin Santana and Paul Byrd both got knocked around by Tampa Bay.
2008-07-11 20:33:59
234.   Andrew Shimmin
Dean Martin makes the Notable People part of Steubenville's wikipedia page. Hoover does not.
2008-07-11 20:34:12
235.   Eric Stephen
Ethier is clearly trying to emulate this guy, brother:

2008-07-11 20:34:26
236.   68elcamino427
Ha! Martin gets Cody on a double clutch!
2008-07-11 20:34:28
237.   sporky
228 Only my great aunt was from North Korea (before there was a North or South Korea).
2008-07-11 20:34:30
238.   scareduck
Wow, what is this thing where a runner is thrown out at second trying to steal?
2008-07-11 20:35:32
239.   Indiana Jon
203 There is no choice on DirecTV tonight. No HD either.
2008-07-11 20:35:45
240.   tethier
nice play Nomar!
2008-07-11 20:35:52
241.   Bob Timmermann
And the last time the Dodgers had two straight starters give up 10 or more hits in a game was also 2005 and it was the eminently hittable Odalis Perez and Jeff Weaver.
2008-07-11 20:36:06
242.   sporky
2008-07-11 20:36:34
243.   Marty
I've met someone related to Wyatt Earp. But I don't think that's all that unusual.
2008-07-11 20:36:37
244.   JoeyP
Good thing Jayson Werth came through tonight.

Dodgers look flat.

Bad night for the NL Worst.

2008-07-11 20:36:44
245.   underdog
Tee hee. I was thinking of the moustache as more like something I saw on "Ice Truckers" but I'll accept the other answers.

Man! Giving up a hit to the pitcher. Bad Stults, bad!

2008-07-11 20:36:54
246.   Eric Stephen
I feel vengefully satisfied now. My Time Warner still has yet to add any HD games on EI this year (as they said they would).
2008-07-11 20:37:50
247.   El Lay Dave
Please, four pitches in the vicinity of HanRam's torso and let's move on to Hermida.
2008-07-11 20:38:07
248.   sporky
Russell's mohawk is growing out.
2008-07-11 20:38:15
249.   Eric Stephen
Hanley can hit it 400 feet or 40 feet, but no matter where it goes he owns Dodger Stadium.
2008-07-11 20:38:45
250.   underdog
Jeez. Even when he doesn't do anything he does something. {throttle}
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2008-07-11 20:39:51
251.   Hallux Valgus
okay, it's time to get, um, anything. This is pathetic.
2008-07-11 20:39:59
252.   underdog
Is Kuo available again tonight? Uh, just askin'...
2008-07-11 20:40:27
253.   Gagne55
"Bad night for the NL Worst"

The Padres are up 2-0

2008-07-11 20:40:33
254.   sporky
Who WASN'T used last night?
2008-07-11 20:40:45
255.   underdog
I'll take a series of "little nubbers."
2008-07-11 20:40:49
256.   El Lay Dave
When does Hanley go on the trading block, after the 2010 season?
2008-07-11 20:41:59
257.   sporky
256 He's signed through 2014.


2008-07-11 20:42:00
258.   El Lay Dave
254 Wade, Beimel, Troncoso, I think.
2008-07-11 20:42:08
259.   Hallux Valgus
256 I guess that depends on what is offered. LA would have to offer Jacksonville.
2008-07-11 20:42:29
260.   El Lay Dave
257 Oh, right, not the Miggy thing.
2008-07-11 20:42:56
261.   JoeyP
253--Do their games even count at this stage of the season?
2008-07-11 20:42:57
262.   Alex41592
They locked him up so it's up to them as it does not contain a no-trade clause.

1 year/$0.439M (2008)
6 years/$70M (2009-14)

2008-07-11 20:43:20
263.   sporky
258 ... so Borg was used before all three of them?
2008-07-11 20:43:42
264.   Hallux Valgus
wow, a David Neid reference. DN was the first pick of the Rockies in the expansion draft. Man did he stink.
2008-07-11 20:44:17
265.   underdog
254 {Raises hand}
2008-07-11 20:44:44
266.   sporky
2008-07-11 20:44:58
267.   68elcamino427
A hit for Jones! Srike up the band!
2008-07-11 20:45:16
268.   sporky
2008-07-11 20:45:23
269.   El Lay Dave
263 Yup.
W - Vulcan
L - Borg
2008-07-11 20:45:30
270.   underdog
Whoa! A hit! For Tiramidruw!
2008-07-11 20:45:34
271.   Eric Stephen
Andruw actually had a good jump, but that throw happened to be at the perfect spot. Unfortunate.
2008-07-11 20:45:41
272.   Hallux Valgus
and there goes that
2008-07-11 20:45:47
273.   Lexinthedena
Jones! what the...?
2008-07-11 20:46:15
274.   JoeyP
Why is McManboobs trying to steal?
2008-07-11 20:46:20
275.   68elcamino427
Ouchy facial.
2008-07-11 20:46:27
276.   underdog
Sigh. That actually wasn't a bad idea. The Marlins just executed it perfectly.
2008-07-11 20:46:52
277.   El Lay Dave
Down three with a left-hand hitter up. Hmmmm.
2008-07-11 20:46:55
278.   sporky
He runs faster than he looks, I'll give him that.
2008-07-11 20:47:00
279.   Alex41592
Can we actually give Hanley Ramirez Dodger Stadium in a trade to get him here? He certainly has earned a share of it.
2008-07-11 20:47:03
280.   scareduck
275 - "McManboobs" = best howler of the week!
2008-07-11 20:47:26
281.   Bob Timmermann
Jody Gerut drives in two runs off of Buddy Carlyle.

Jon's internal conflict rages.

2008-07-11 20:47:42
282.   scareduck
280 - actually for 274 .
2008-07-11 20:47:51
283.   El Lay Dave
Loney miss a hit-and-run sign?
2008-07-11 20:48:32
284.   Eric Stephen
I'd say after 2010, Florida might try to trade him as his contract gets to the more expensive years:

2009: $5.5m
2010: $7m
2011: $11m
2012: $15m
2013: $15.5m
2014: $16m

But that's assuming the same modus operandi for Loria, et al in Florida in a few years.

2008-07-11 20:49:16
285.   El Lay Dave
And isn't Andruw "still rehabbing" that knee?
2008-07-11 20:49:35
286.   sporky
The Borg is warming up.
2008-07-11 20:49:41
287.   Alex41592
The Borg is up.
2008-07-11 20:50:33
288.   Icaros
2008-07-11 20:50:42
289.   Eric Stephen
Andruw feeling spry tonight! I sense an extra base hit tonight.
2008-07-11 20:50:58
290.   lukemccain
NICE catch by Andruw!
2008-07-11 20:51:07
291.   Alex41592
Jones with a snazzy play.
2008-07-11 20:51:13
292.   Lexinthedena
That was not at all a good move. Jones shouldn't have tried to steal down 3-0.
2008-07-11 20:52:56
293.   Alex41592
Jones definitely looks like he's dropped some weight.
2008-07-11 20:55:32
294.   tethier
You've got to give Stults some credit for not caving after the first inning.
2008-07-11 20:55:49
295.   Eric Stephen
Using, the MLE calculator on, Marlins' AAA 3B and ex-Angel Dallas McPherson's 31-HR season for Albuquerque translates into .226/.316/.485, 21 HR for Florida. Not bad for a K machine.
2008-07-11 20:56:48
296.   Eric Stephen
It may have been a busted hit & run, but even so Jones had a good jump and only a pinpoint throw got him.
2008-07-11 20:56:57
297.   Alex41592
Borg is down. Wade is up.
2008-07-11 20:58:05
298.   lukemccain
I was thinking "Wow, Kemp got a great jump on that ball!" before I realized it was Jones in CF. Based on the balls hit over his head yesterday, I don't think Kemp would have got a fast enough jump on the ball to have made the catch.
2008-07-11 20:58:48
299.   Hallux Valgus
292 296 I feel like Torre has been running all year, no matter the situation. I seriously doubt that Jones would have run on his own.
2008-07-11 21:00:01
300.   Eric Stephen
Would Joe Torre be the Falkener?
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2008-07-11 21:00:04
301.   tethier
If Stults comes out will they do a double switch?
2008-07-11 21:00:06
302.   El Lay Dave
58 pitches through 5 - way to make the kid work.
2008-07-11 21:00:06
303.   sporky
299 IIRC, Jones has a greenlight, along with Pierre, Furcal, Martin and Kemp.
2008-07-11 21:00:45
304.   El Lay Dave
301 For one spot in the batting order? I think not.
2008-07-11 21:01:46
305.   Hallux Valgus
303 Wow. That should really not be the case. But I defer to knowledge. Apologies all around.
2008-07-11 21:02:37
306.   El Lay Dave
Torre gambling with Stults here, who was already up to 91 pitches.
2008-07-11 21:03:06
307.   sporky
I'm guessing they'll take him out when Hanley's up.
2008-07-11 21:03:24
308.   sporky
Or not.
2008-07-11 21:03:28
309.   Bob Timmermann
Stults gambling is legal in six counties in California, including Los Angeles County.
2008-07-11 21:03:59
310.   tethier
307 - Hopefully it won't come to Hanley.
2008-07-11 21:05:04
311.   Eric Stephen
Nice throw on the run from Nomar.
2008-07-11 21:05:46
312.   El Lay Dave
Quality start(!)
2008-07-11 21:05:54
313.   scareduck
Only a year and a half more of Andruw Jones' hijinks!
2008-07-11 21:07:22
314.   sporky
2008-07-11 21:07:26
315.   tethier
312 - Stults would be alright for a team that could score a few runs - capable 5ht starter.
2008-07-11 21:07:43
316.   Eric Stephen
2008-07-11 21:08:15
317.   Hallux Valgus
So her lies the fate of LaRoche... and now he'll not be seen again for a fortnight.
2008-07-11 21:08:23
318.   Alex41592
Andy LaRoche fans in the audience got their cameo.
2008-07-11 21:08:59
319.   Bob Timmermann
7 assists from Ramirez.

He's halfway to the record!

2008-07-11 21:09:31
320.   Eric Stephen
Tonight's 3B umpire, Bill Hohn, was apparently borrowed from the 1890s. Mustaches are taking over America!!!
2008-07-11 21:09:45
321.   sporky
I hope Volstad doesn't get a CG SO in his first start.
2008-07-11 21:10:51
322.   CanuckDodger
A nice game by Stults. I understand that people were angry in the first inning, but Stults didn't deserve all the abuse people were hurling at him, any more than Billingsley deserves it (from the Dodger Stadium crowd) when he has a bad inning. Stults has been more than solid this year. 2.67 ERA so far. Penny's ERA after his first five or six games (when he comes back) will be much worse.
2008-07-11 21:11:15
323.   Eric Stephen
In fact, someone should act to prohibit such a thing!
2008-07-11 21:11:31
324.   JoeyP
Volstad is in CG SH terrority.
65 pitches in 6 ip.
2008-07-11 21:11:33
325.   El Lay Dave
Using LaRoche, a power guy, as a leadoff PH doesn't seem like the best move. Burn off Berroa there instead.
2008-07-11 21:12:39
326.   Alex41592
322 - Back to back homers tend to bring out the worst fan in me.
2008-07-11 21:12:52
327.   Eric Stephen
I refuse to hear this shutout phooey. Dodgers are scoring at least 4 tonight. It's up to the bullpen to hold the lead they don't quite have...yet.
2008-07-11 21:13:03
328.   tethier
321 - the Dodgers always seem to have trouble against pitchers making their debut.
2008-07-11 21:13:35
329.   Eric Stephen
To be fair, though, LaRoche is also on on-base guy.
2008-07-11 21:13:45
330.   Bob Timmermann
This isn't Volstad's debut.
2008-07-11 21:14:22
331.   Alex41592
But, Stults overall did just fine. This game is more about Volstad and the inability to figure him out.
2008-07-11 21:14:23
332.   underdog
322 Tis fair to say. He did settle down a lot. It's just too bad he was outdueled by Volstad today, and that the Dodgers haven't made the latter work at all.

Ah well.

I think the Dodgers should do a Moustache Night like they did at Yankee Stadium. Except it would be harder to find ones that look like Ethier's, or Kemp's for that matter.

2008-07-11 21:14:23
333.   El Lay Dave
328 Cue Eric Stephen.
2008-07-11 21:14:29
334.   sporky
330 But it is his first start.
2008-07-11 21:14:57
335.   Eric Stephen
Is Harold Ramis at the game?
2008-07-11 21:15:06
336.   Hallux Valgus
323 none of your historical talk
2008-07-11 21:16:03
337.   Eric Stephen
Dodgers are 2-10 since 2001 against starting pitchers in their first or second MLB game.

2008-07-11 21:16:16
338.   JoeyP
Hermida's like the white Matt Kemp.
Plenty of tools, not so much production.

I doubt Marlins management wants to trade him though. Not yet anyway.

2008-07-11 21:16:35
339.   Eric Stephen
Vin started it!
2008-07-11 21:16:38
340.   tethier
330 - debut as a starter.
2008-07-11 21:17:48
341.   Eric Stephen
Excellent DP.
2008-07-11 21:17:49
342.   68elcamino427
Nice DP
2008-07-11 21:18:10
343.   tethier
nice DP
2008-07-11 21:18:14
344.   Alex41592
DeWitt starts the nice DP.
2008-07-11 21:19:05
345.   Bob Timmermann
Everyone is too nice here.
2008-07-11 21:19:24
346.   Johnny Nucleo
Dodger bats have been pretty cold against Vostok so far.
2008-07-11 21:21:27
347.   JoeyP
Russ you gotta take on 2-0.
2008-07-11 21:23:05
348.   JoeyP
Leave it to the PVL to work the walk.
Good job Kent.
2008-07-11 21:23:31
349.   tethier
How is the Marlin's bullpen?
2008-07-11 21:23:36
350.   Bob Hendley
Looking for anything, his first three ball count...and now the walk.
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2008-07-11 21:24:41
351.   scareduck
With every swing, Andruw Jones makes puppies and kittens cry.
2008-07-11 21:25:19
352.   scareduck
351 - as I was saying ...
2008-07-11 21:25:52
353.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers got a home run against it the Marlins pen last night.

And nothing else except for walks.

2008-07-11 21:25:58
354.   Alex41592
In the eighth in 1:45.
2008-07-11 21:26:21
355.   JoeyP
78 thru 7.
2008-07-11 21:27:23
356.   tethier
353 - It looks like it won't matter much anyhow. Jones had a pitch to hit on the 2-1 count and missed it.
2008-07-11 21:28:08
357.   sporky
349 Might not see it tonight.
2008-07-11 21:30:55
358.   Bob Hendley
356 - Worse than that, what he missed was an easy grounder to the 3rd baseman because it went foul. On the next pitch he straightened it out.
2008-07-11 21:31:35
359.   tethier
Wade has really been a find for the Dodgers this year.
2008-07-11 21:32:58
360.   tethier
358 He should have hit the 2-1 pitch into the gap.
2008-07-11 21:33:23
361.   KAYVMON
Haha, the Florida announcers are blaming Deadspin for the awful coverage of AROD's divorce. They should ask their wives about Entertainment Tonight and People Magazine.
2008-07-11 21:33:27
362.   Johnny Nucleo
Another solid outing for Wade. Attaboy.
2008-07-11 21:36:10
363.   Bob Hendley
360 - Looks like he has closed his stance a little bit from the other night. So he is trying things...
2008-07-11 21:36:32
364.   Hallux Valgus
not a single stupid run
2008-07-11 21:37:04
365.   Eric Stephen
Didn't look pretty, but Ross still got the out. I didn't think Nomar hit it that hard.
2008-07-11 21:37:24
366.   Andrew Shimmin
DeWitt's going to hit a home run on the fourth pitch.

Book it.

2008-07-11 21:37:30
367.   68elcamino427
Ross - running to the spot to make the catch.
2008-07-11 21:37:51
368.   Andrew Shimmin
Here it comes. . .
2008-07-11 21:38:09
369.   JoeyP
The race is on to claim Volstad in all fantasy leagues.
2008-07-11 21:38:19
370.   Eric Stephen
Repent or Byrne.
2008-07-11 21:38:58
371.   Andrew Shimmin
Oops. Wrong corner of the multiverse. It was parallel dimension DeWitt who went long. My mistake.
2008-07-11 21:39:58
372.   sporky
It's been a while since DeWitt hit a HR, no?
2008-07-11 21:40:21
373.   Andrew Shimmin
370- Eleven more PAs and I can start rooting for him, again. I'm looking forward to it, since it looks like he's going to be playing an awful lot for the foreseeable future.
2008-07-11 21:40:54
374.   Alex41592
2008-07-11 21:41:09
375.   Andrew Shimmin
May 29th was his last. He's due. After eleven more PAs.
2008-07-11 21:41:35
376.   tethier
365 I know what you mean about it didn't seem all that hard hit. The ball does seem to carry better of of Nomar's bat this year - unlike last year when it just seemed to die.
2008-07-11 21:42:14
377.   Eric Stephen
The last pitcher to throw a shutout in his first MLB start was current Marlin Doug Waechter in 2003.
2008-07-11 21:44:10
378.   tethier
The YouTube on Diamond's site on Borg was pretty funny - if you have 8:30 to kill.
2008-07-11 21:44:43
379.   Eric Stephen
What is significant about 11 more PA?
2008-07-11 21:45:16
380.   underdog
I can't tell how much of tonight was Volstad genuinely pitching great - and I really think he did, with very fine control - and how much was just Dodgers' patheticness. But I do think more the former. Still, working the count a bit more might have helped.

They better win the next two.

Well, that was certainly fast work for the Borg, I'll say that.

2008-07-11 21:46:44
381.   Andrew Shimmin
379- Puts him at 300 PAs for the year. The point where I predicted (on pain of having to wear corduroy pants to the DT picnic; which would also mean having to go to the DT picnic) he'd be OPSing under .700.
2008-07-11 21:46:52
382.   sporky
How heavily do teams depend on video of pitchers?
2008-07-11 21:47:14
383.   Eric Stephen
Congratulations to Russ Martin for tying the game.
2008-07-11 21:47:26
384.   underdog
Good job Pee Wee!

And hey, next week Mattingly's back!

2008-07-11 21:47:57
385.   68elcamino427
Young - get back out there full time Young!
Jones - back to re-hab.
2008-07-11 21:48:38
386.   tethier
Big Bird in the pen!
2008-07-11 21:49:05
387.   Eric Stephen
I am a liar.
2008-07-11 21:49:14
388.   Andrew Shimmin
Comment 146:

2008-07-11 21:49:54
389.   Bob Timmermann
Last pitcher to throw a complete game shutout in one of his first two games was ...

Clay Buchholz

2008-07-11 21:50:39
390.   sporky
2008-07-11 21:50:40
391.   Eric Stephen
Well, we have the tying run to the plate. There's that.
2008-07-11 21:50:41
392.   scareduck
Martin breaks through.
2008-07-11 21:50:42
393.   Alex41592
There goes the shutout.
2008-07-11 21:50:51
394.   Bob Timmermann
And Clay Buchholz still has that distinction.
2008-07-11 21:51:08
395.   Alex41592
And there goes the complete game.
2008-07-11 21:51:14
396.   68elcamino427
Martin wants to win.
2008-07-11 21:51:27
397.   JoeyP
Martin prevents the CG shut out!
2008-07-11 21:51:37
398.   underdog
Huzzah! A run!

Man, did you see that stat for how many games its been since last Marlins CG?

2008-07-11 21:52:01
399.   Eric Stephen
You're an honorable man.
2008-07-11 21:52:10
400.   Bob Timmermann
I can't say that the list of pitchers who threw shutouts in either the first or second game is one to get all that excited about:
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2008-07-11 21:53:11
401.   Alex41592
Kent vs. Kevin Gregg: 2 for 6 both singles.
2008-07-11 21:53:11
402.   Bob Timmermann
However, Juan Marichal's big league debut was pretty good. 12 Ks and 1 just one hit allowed.
2008-07-11 21:53:16
403.   Neal Pollack
Oh, dear god, if Kent gets on...
2008-07-11 21:54:09
404.   Eric Stephen
Kent has the fastball timing down...
2008-07-11 21:54:33
405.   underdog
388 Sigh. From that same thread:

"The injury news isn't tragic, though hopefully Furcal just needs the day off."

Famous last words.

2008-07-11 21:54:51
406.   Eric Stephen
Time for the weight room.
2008-07-11 21:55:05
407.   Icaros
Baseball is misery.
2008-07-11 21:55:32
408.   Bob Timmermann
My post on the Griddle on pitchers getting one out saves became obsolete very quickly.
2008-07-11 21:55:57
409.   underdog
Sometimes I really hate Dodger Stadium.
2008-07-11 21:55:59
410.   sporky
Well, that happened.
2008-07-11 21:56:25
411.   68elcamino427
Time for the Dodgers to return to the clubhose and resume study of today's Times Sports section.
2008-07-11 21:57:22
412.   underdog
Baseball is cruel. Except when things go well. Then it's wondrous.

Win the next two, that's all I can say. And with Kuroda and Bills going I do have some confidence. But the offense needs to get it going.

2008-07-11 21:58:20
413.   underdog
Buenos noches, amigos y amigas.
2008-07-11 22:00:22
414.   Bob Hendley
413 - Hasta lumbago.
2008-07-11 22:06:03
415.   underdog
414 - Gout night.
2008-07-11 22:29:41
416.   Reddog
When you compare the Dodger's lineup with the Marlin's, we really have a pathetic, mediocre team. Uggla and Ramirez each have 23 HRs, Jacobs has 19 HRs, Cantu has 17 HRs.
All we've got is good pitching.
2008-07-11 22:40:51
417.   Linkmeister
416 Son, you're too young. We used to say that in the 1960s! ;)
2008-07-11 22:59:40
418.   Bob Timmermann
If only Mike Scioscia were around to make the Dodgers win by sheer force of his personality.
2008-07-11 23:09:05
419.   scareduck
418 - in which case, the Dodgers would have lost by 9-2.
2008-07-11 23:10:40
420.   scareduck
415 - that's the giveaway at Citizen's Bank Park, right?

(I know, I know, this title has shifted around over the years. But it's still funny.)

2008-07-11 23:32:02
421.   bhsportsguy
3 letters in LAT re Dodgers, two on McCourt wanting accountability and the other asking for patience with the kids.

Most of the letters are about Elton Brand.

2008-07-11 23:38:23
422.   gibsonhobbs88
From some of the talk on KABC DodgerTalk tonight on the way home from the movie, I think there are some Dodger fans drinking Plaschke's Koolaid! If Colletti and McCourt give their approval to another misguided and panicked trade for a over the hill-soon to be on the DL PVL'r at the expense of some of our young talent, I may have to disown my fandom in Dodger Blue until we get enlightened leadership in the FO. One guy thought we could trade Loney, Kemp, Laroche and Ethier and a pitcher for the Pirates outfielders. Then he would move Nady to first base. I almost wanted to reach my hands through the radio and strangle him. He was repeating the same drivel Plaschke has been spewing! God help me tomorrow night at the game, I hear fans booing our youngsters. They need our encouragement, they certainly aren't getting it from the Dodgers "brain trust"!
Now we face Nolasco, great, right after we can't get Johnson that well coming off the DL recently and then Volstad in his first MLB start. Good luck Kuroda-you will need it-this team can't score runs. You may need to pitch another shutout to win.
2008-07-11 23:39:29
423.   Bob Timmermann
It's refreshing to know that the Dodgers are now behind the Clippers in the L.A. sports pecking order.

My rankings:
1. Lakers
2. Clippers
3. USC football
4. Dodgers
5. Angels
6. UCLA basketball
7. Ducks
8. Galaxy
9. Kings
10. UCLA football
11. USC basketball

2008-07-11 23:58:50
424.   bhsportsguy
423 The Clippers will soon return to their normal place somewhere above soccer and hockey.
2008-07-12 00:04:45
425.   Bob Timmermann
ToyCannon is not going to like that attitude.
2008-07-12 00:23:33
426.   xaphor
At what depths does Chivas USA place?
2008-07-12 00:24:00
427.   bhsportsguy
422 I was the caller from a few days ago that told them that Holliday had only 3 home runs in 128 at bats at Dodger Stadium.
2008-07-12 02:52:37
428.   dsfan
Has the press given a detailed account of why Andruw's rehab was cut short?

I considered a lengthy rehab the best and perhaps only way for him to piece together a serviceable swings without the expense of prolonged ineptitude at the major-league levele. For a change, the Dodgers appeared prudent. They were placing Jones where he belonged, not trying to justify another bloated contract (in this case, to a bloated ballplayer). Wisely, they told us they would give Jones a few weeks in Triple-A. What better way for a slumping hitter to find hiself wsile simultaneously adjusting to knee surgery and rust?

I concede that Jones represented a defensive upgrade, even if brought back early in his rehab, but when measured against the likelihood of continued futility with the bat, it seemed foolish to bring him back.

The original timetable was after the All-Star break, no?

The Dodgers once again seem allergic to intelligent process.

2008-07-12 07:15:05
429.   Bob Timmermann

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