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July 18 Game Chat
2008-07-18 17:49
by Jon Weisman
Comments (720)
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2008-07-18 17:54:45
1.   D4P
Mrs. D4P likes to talk to D4P when he's driving.

If D4P doesn't pay 100% attention to what she's saying and participate in the conversation, he gets in trouble.

If D4P doesn't simultaneously pay 100% to the road, he gets in trouble.

2008-07-18 17:55:55
2.   overkill94
1 Sounds like you need to give 200%

Which is way better than those lazy athletes who only give 110%

2008-07-18 17:56:42
3.   Gagne55
Oops. I missed the NPUT. Well, per Tony Jackson:

Park will be replaced in the rotation by veteran right-hander Jason Johnson, whose contract was purchased from Las Vegas earlier today to take Takashi Saito's roster spot.

2008-07-18 17:57:20
4.   nofatmike
1 Simple: Let Mrs. D4P drive.
2008-07-18 17:58:46
5.   D4P
D4P has to do roughly 95% of the driving.
2008-07-18 18:01:57
6.   D4P
I just learned about "middle-clicking" in Firefox. Rather than right-clicking on a bookmark in the bookmark toolbar and choosing "Open in New Tab", you can "middle-click" on it by pushing the left and right buttons simultaneously, thus opening it in a new tab.
2008-07-18 18:03:44
7.   fanerman
6 You don't have a scroll wheel on your mouse?
2008-07-18 18:03:47
8.   JoeyP
3--> Thats just a dumb move all around. I guess they are going to put Saito on the 60-day DL to make a roster spot for him.

Too bad McDonald/Kerhshaw were passed over for a PVL with no upside.

Dodgers just have on interest in building anything for the future, and that they actually think Jason Johnson can help in the short-term is troubling.


2008-07-18 18:06:41
9.   JoeyP
Also per Tony Jackson:

Stop us if you have heard this one before: Jason Schmidt has been shut down, his rehab assignment put on hold. He felt discomfort in his shoulder after his last rehab start. Torre said he'll throw a couple of side sessions here, and if those go well, he'll resume his rehab...

Just retire.

2008-07-18 18:07:33
10.   Eric Enders
I don't have a huge problem with this move as long as Johnson is just keeping Kershaw's seat warm for a start or two. Any more than that and you have to start questioning it.

Hopefully Torre will align Johnson's starts with Kuo's pitching days, so that a Johnson start equates to Kuo coming in in the fourth inning and blowing the other team away for a while.

Or do we think Kuo is the new setup man?

2008-07-18 18:08:09
11.   D4P
I use a laptop.
2008-07-18 18:11:53
12.   katysdad
Per Diamond: Johnson was picked over Clayton Kershaw to start because of his experience, according to Manager Joe Torre. To make room for Johnson on the 40-man roster, Yhency Brazoban was transferred from the minor league disabled list to the major league 60-day disabled list.
2008-07-18 18:12:52
13.   overkill94
6 Either my coordination sucks or my version of Firefox won't let me do that.
2008-07-18 18:19:22
14.   D4P
I'm using version 3.0.1.
2008-07-18 18:21:13
15.   JoeyP
Its pretty nuts that given the Dodgers minor league system, we're left debating whether Chan Ho Park or Jason Johnson should be in the rotation.
2008-07-18 18:24:29
16.   Ken Noe
15 It provides a nice break from debating all of Ned/Torre's other inexplicable decisions.
2008-07-18 18:28:19
17.   Eric Enders
One begins to wonder when they might ever make a decision that is, you know, explicable.
2008-07-18 18:32:12
18.   gpellamjr
16 Yes! I think you've figured it out! Every stupid thing they do is just to distract us from the last stupid thing they did. It makes so much sense.
2008-07-18 18:35:53
19.   D4P
Ronny Turiaf to the Warriors. Too bad, I kinda liked the guy.
2008-07-18 18:36:47
20.   overkill94
Mike Scioscia's taking a page out of Jim Tracy's playbook by having Maicer ".685 OPS" Izturis hit third tonight
2008-07-18 18:38:32
21.   Bob Timmermann
But Maicer Izturis knows how to win.
2008-07-18 18:39:45
22.   Eric Enders
So does Mark Sweeney, who started and batted cleanup when we beat Florida on May 1.
2008-07-18 18:40:29
23.   D4P
Young players think that winning requires scoring more runs than the opposing team.
2008-07-18 18:42:13
24.   Bob Timmermann
Is Eric's prophecy about Kemp fulfilled with that single?
2008-07-18 18:42:40
25.   bhsportsguy
23 Young and old have lost more than they have won this year for the Dodgers so until the team is over .500, I don't really care who is playing.
2008-07-18 18:43:49
26.   D4P
until the team is over .500, I don't really care who is playing

But the first part is dependent upon the second part...

2008-07-18 18:44:27
27.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-18 18:44:45
28.   ucladodger
Ethier is still en fuego.
2008-07-18 18:44:46
29.   Telemachos
I'm disappointed Kemp's helmet didn't fly off just now. :)
2008-07-18 18:44:55
30.   thinkblue88
Bison stampede!
2008-07-18 18:45:22
31.   Bob Timmermann
Please no debates over causation!
2008-07-18 18:47:16
32.   MonkeyBlue
Russel BABY!
2008-07-18 18:47:56
33.   Gagne55
26 I was thinking the same thing.
2008-07-18 18:48:44
34.   D4P
"Martin doubles on a ground ball to first baseman Chad Tracy".
2008-07-18 18:49:24
35.   Gagne55
24 He said Kemp would do something big in his first at bat. Xeifrank has a system that could tell us just how big that single was.
2008-07-18 18:50:03
36.   Gagne55
34 Hard chopper over the 1Bman?
2008-07-18 18:50:20
37.   bhsportsguy
26 It may be, but for me I just am tired of analyzing lineups. If this team doesn't win the division, I will wholeheartily and unashamingly support getting rid of Ned, Joe, Rick Monday, whomever.

So I leave it to them, if they feel that Johnson and Sweeney are key components to the team winning the division, so be it.

But I am just going to watch the games and keep score.

2008-07-18 18:50:45
38.   El Lay Dave
Gurnick on the roster moves:

"We know he can handle the heat," Torre said of Park. "This way I can use him more than once every five or six days. He's so valuable in the bullpen. He'd rather start, but he understands. I'm more concerned with finishing the game than starting it."

The timing of the promotion of the 34-year-old Johnson is interesting. He had a July 31 escape clause in his contract if he was not promoted to the Major Leagues.

2008-07-18 18:50:50
39.   Bob Timmermann
Replace "over" with "off"
2008-07-18 18:51:00
40.   Bob Hendley
Gotta like this count.
2008-07-18 18:52:03
41.   Gagne55
Davis is having an uncharacteristically bad start. He is usually very solid against the Dodgers.
2008-07-18 18:53:15
42.   Linkmeister
Good lord. Gameday tells me it's 106 degrees in Phoenix. I can't believe I spent a summer there in that heat once.
2008-07-18 18:53:50
43.   Bob Hendley
Uh oh, AZ announcers are questioning balls and strikes.
2008-07-18 18:53:51
44.   D4P
If this team doesn't win the division, I will wholeheartily and unashamingly support getting rid of Ned, Joe, Rick Monday, whomever

That just makes no sense at all.

2008-07-18 18:54:13
45.   MonkeyBlue
Wow! horrible throw.
2008-07-18 18:54:18
46.   ucladodger
Finally we are doing to Davis what a major league team should do. The guy has high school stuff.
2008-07-18 18:55:09
47.   natepurcell
Question, why isn't Andy starting at 3b?
2008-07-18 18:56:17
48.   El Lay Dave
47 Bowa hates him?
2008-07-18 18:56:49
49.   D4P
Gameday doesn't know how to respond when the Dodgers score so many runs in an inning.
2008-07-18 18:56:54
50.   MonkeyBlue
?????? WOW! strange DP!
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2008-07-18 18:57:12
51.   Bob Timmermann
For those worrying about such matters, that does not count as a GIDP for Loney.
2008-07-18 18:57:27
52.   thinkblue88
DP Loney.
2008-07-18 18:57:29
53.   ucladodger
Are you serious? What a crappy effort by Kent to get back tot he base. Get on the ground, old man.
2008-07-18 18:57:30
54.   natepurcell
Thanks for sliding Kemp.
2008-07-18 18:57:32
55.   JoeyP
Loney doesnt deserve a DP for that.
2008-07-18 18:57:35
56.   MonkeyBlue
Oh yeah Loney is definitely Mr. DP
2008-07-18 18:57:59
57.   MonkeyBlue
51. OK.
2008-07-18 18:58:16
58.   Linkmeister
What's going on? Last Gameday has is "in play/runs" from Nomar.
2008-07-18 18:58:22
59.   natepurcell
Ah crap....I meant the old maN!
2008-07-18 18:58:34
60.   Bob Hendley
And I was thinking, no way Loney hits into a double play.
2008-07-18 18:58:51
61.   underdog
That would've been a nice time for a slide, there, yeah, Kent. Oh well.

Nice inning otherwise though! I only caught the tail end of this one. I'll take it. I knew we were due to score a few off Davis.

2008-07-18 18:59:04
62.   D4P
Don't worry, Gameday. I faint when Nomar does something good, too.
2008-07-18 18:59:17
63.   MonkeyBlue
Jones 1-1.
2008-07-18 18:59:17
64.   JoeyP
Andruw cant hit a 80 MPH straight change right down the middle.

Druw seriously looks blind.

2008-07-18 18:59:33
65.   ucladodger
And Andruw still sucks. Still a great start.
2008-07-18 18:59:42
66.   Gagne55
Gamecast is stuck on Nomar 3-2. What is this about Loney?
2008-07-18 19:00:13
67.   underdog
"That swing right there is indicative of someone who is just not seeing the baseball," says Matt Williams, astutely, in the DBacks booth.

(Re: the strike 2 swing.)

2008-07-18 19:00:52
68.   thinkblue88
I think gameday is stuck cuz of how they are going to score the play. Vin said they are going to give two errors.
2008-07-18 19:00:58
69.   underdog
Seriously, Andruw, we promise not to call you Poindexter, Four Eyes or Milhouse if you have to wear glasses. We'll fully support you. I promise!
2008-07-18 19:01:49
70.   underdog
66 - Loney hit a ball down the third base line that Reynods grabbed and tagged Kent out as Kent was trying to get back to third and then threw to first to double up Loney.
2008-07-18 19:02:35
71.   Uncle Miltie
Quality veteran baserunning by Kent....
2008-07-18 19:02:40
72.   JoeyP
66--Loney hit a chopper to 3rd. Reynolds was able to field the ball, tag Kent at the same time (since Kent for some reason was running back towards 3rd), and then still throw across to 1st for the unconventional DP.
2008-07-18 19:03:32
73.   D4P
I think gameday is stuck cuz of how they are going to score the play

More like "GameYesterDay".

2008-07-18 19:03:54
74.   bhsportsguy
69 The Dodgers say that his eyesight was checked out back in April and it is fine.
2008-07-18 19:04:07
75.   68elcamino427
Note to Larry Bowa:

Your young and inexperienced players were instrumental in the Dodgers jumping out to a three run lead to start off the first inning tonight.

Your experienced players Kent and Jones ... not so productive.

2008-07-18 19:04:14
76.   Gagne55
70 Sounds like Kent should have just gone for home...
2008-07-18 19:04:32
77.   Scanman33
Here comes a never-ending barrage of articles about Kent's baserunning mistakes.

Oh wait.

2008-07-18 19:05:22
78.   JoeyP
Ever since Pierre was DL'ed, the Dodgers have been scoring in the 1st inning at a much much higher rate.
2008-07-18 19:05:45
79.   El Lay Dave
51 Because Kent was not a force out?
2008-07-18 19:06:17
80.   oshea2002
Plaschke would have already had tomorrow's column finished had that been Kemp on 3b last inning.
2008-07-18 19:06:34
81.   ucladodger

No, but he makes it easily back to third if he dives. He took his jolly old time getting back and he got caught. Too bad nobody will make a big stink about it.

2008-07-18 19:06:36
82.   underdog
74 I realize that, but Williams' comment/observation isn't the first I've heard from people wondering about his eyesight. He literally looks like someone who is not seeing the ball. I'd get a second opinion. It's either that or he just became slow-brained over the past year.
2008-07-18 19:07:24
83.   underdog
I hated Kent's move or lack thereof there but just for me at least it's officially become a tired topic. Plus no trash cans were harmed!
2008-07-18 19:08:02
84.   D4P
Gameday calls Loney's thing a "fielder's choice double play".
2008-07-18 19:08:02
85.   MonkeyBlue
Dang! should have worked the count!
2008-07-18 19:08:25
86.   underdog
DBacks coming right back in feisty style. Come on, Hiro, keep that ball down.
2008-07-18 19:09:24
87.   thinkblue88
haha, gameday totally skipped over Jones AB
2008-07-18 19:09:36
88.   Bob Hendley
Now, Kent did get over to third (though a halfway decent throw would have nailed him).
2008-07-18 19:09:45
89.   underdog
87 - So did he.
2008-07-18 19:09:52
90.   ucladodger
I hate Jeff Kent. Thats a freakin double play.
2008-07-18 19:09:55
91.   natepurcell
How did Kent not come up with that?
2008-07-18 19:10:02
92.   Uncle Miltie
That was some pretty Uggla defense by Kent...
2008-07-18 19:10:11
93.   JoeyP
Kent sucks out there.
Should have been an easy DP.
2008-07-18 19:10:19
94.   MonkeyBlue
Old man! I hate you today.
2008-07-18 19:10:37
95.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Martin brought some Uggla back for Kent.
2008-07-18 19:10:45
96.   underdog
Stupid Dbacks! Won't roll over and die. {shakes fist}
2008-07-18 19:11:29
97.   68elcamino427
Kent appears to be experienceing the classic "All-Star break Hangover".
No worries, he'll get loose after a few games?
2008-07-18 19:11:30
98.   underdog
Kent needs to hit a grand slam today to make up for his goofs.
2008-07-18 19:11:53
99.   Bob Hendley
Jeez, did I try to say something nice about Kent?
2008-07-18 19:12:28
100.   ucladodger
Kent has already cost the team 2, possible 3 runs. what a joke.
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2008-07-18 19:12:30
101.   JoeyP
That ball was hit hard.
2008-07-18 19:13:01
102.   underdog
Jeez louise!


2008-07-18 19:13:42
103.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Playing in the clubhouse before the game:

Red Hot Chili Peppers - Give it Away

2008-07-18 19:13:43
104.   ucladodger
This is ridiculous.
2008-07-18 19:13:50
105.   Telemachos
2008-07-18 19:13:52
106.   JoeyP
Druw with an error.
He was going to hold at 3rd.
2008-07-18 19:14:09
107.   Gagne55
2008-07-18 19:14:19
108.   thinkblue88
Man, I was predicting a pitcher duel all week end long. Guess not. Two teams offensivly challenged scoring plenty of runs early.
2008-07-18 19:14:21
109.   Bob Timmermann
Can't anybody here play this game?
2008-07-18 19:14:30
110.   underdog
That's just sad.

Well... maybe I need to leave this game for awhile. You can blame me for this.

2008-07-18 19:14:44
111.   68elcamino427
Kent and Jones may approach the bench.
Players that are focused on winning may take their places on the field.
2008-07-18 19:15:04
112.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Sorry Vin, that is not Andruw's first error of the year.
2008-07-18 19:15:21
113.   D4P
Can't anybody here play this game?

It's a new season. They haven't hit their mid-season stride yet.

2008-07-18 19:15:25
114.   underdog
109 {Raises hand}

Oh wait. Which game? I thought you meant Gin Rummy. I can play that.

2008-07-18 19:15:36
115.   whodat807
God I hate away announcers.
2008-07-18 19:16:44
116.   Gagne55
Gamecast is so behind right now.
2008-07-18 19:16:50
117.   68elcamino427
Kent stinks.
2008-07-18 19:16:52
118.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-18 19:16:59
119.   underdog
Kuroda's given up at least a couple of hits that were his fault, but the rest really hasn't been.
2008-07-18 19:17:11
120.   Who Is Karim Garcia

So are the Dodgers.

2008-07-18 19:17:21
121.   JoeyP
4-3 D-bax.

Kuroda's gonna get charged with 4 runs, when he really should have been out of the inning with none scoring.

2008-07-18 19:17:28
122.   ucladodger
Just to think, with any below average second baseman we get out of the inning up 3-0 with Kuroda around 18 pitches or so. With the worst second baseman in the game we are now down. Its a good thing he's so great offensively!
2008-07-18 19:17:30
123.   GMac In The 909
The PVLs are sure earning their fat contracts today.
2008-07-18 19:17:32
124.   underdog
He looked out to me, no?
2008-07-18 19:17:42
125.   natepurcell
Darron Sutton is going to make me throw my remote at my tv.
2008-07-18 19:17:52
126.   Telemachos
That ball was hit slow, I'm not sure you can slam Kent for not getting the double-play turned.
2008-07-18 19:19:07
127.   oshea2002
I'm sorry, normally I wouldn't harp on errors, but when management and the media protect these guys and are so quick to throw the young guys under the bus for any reason, then these jokers come out and instead of being up 4-0 now we're down and will likely lose, I want to scream.
2008-07-18 19:19:32
128.   natepurcell

Not that one, the one where the ball went right under his glove.

2008-07-18 19:19:48
129.   underdog
125 - I already threw my mouse at my laptop. And then hit mute.

126 - I agree. Kent's been crap this inning but that DP looked like it was turned the right way.

2008-07-18 19:21:18
130.   ucladodger
All of the writers who consistently harp on the young players better make a point of writing about Kent and Jones this inning. 2 complete jokes out on the diamond.
2008-07-18 19:21:32
131.   underdog
Cool. It's Violate Rule 8 Day here at the 'Thoughts. It's safer for the family than Violate Rule 1 Day, which is an adults only affair.

Well, I can say that I don't think the Dodgers are done scoring runs today. Hope I'm right about that.

2008-07-18 19:21:34
132.   OhioBlues12
Unbelievable. Now Davis will most likely revert to dominating us like he usually does. Whenever we get the lead Kent should come out for a defensive replacement, I don't care if it is the first inning.
2008-07-18 19:21:34
133.   oshea2002
I just got in - can someone explain why DeWitt is playing tonight?
2008-07-18 19:22:07
134.   Doctor
Well, that should just about do it for this PVL garbage. Kent and Jones looked like they belong in the crowd that inning to the tune of costing the team the difference between winning 4-0 (at least) to losing 3-4.
2008-07-18 19:22:27
135.   Gagne55
122 Which single was an uncharged error by Kent? None were to right field. Tracy's?
2008-07-18 19:22:42
136.   Telemachos
The First Inning -- it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
2008-07-18 19:22:50
137.   JoeyP
I wonder if DeWitt & LaRoche get along, or if they hate each other's guts?

You dont really hear much tabloid stuff about the Dodgers, even though they are an LA team.

2008-07-18 19:23:18
138.   bhsportsguy
BTW, it would not be surprising for both of these teams that the final score of this game is 4-3.
2008-07-18 19:23:32
139.   underdog

Bob? Someone? Am I crazy?

2008-07-18 19:23:39
140.   Bob Hendley
Are Shimmin's pants still in play here?
2008-07-18 19:24:08
141.   MonkeyBlue
I hope the Dodgers don't go with one of those 6 scoreless inning after scoring big route.
2008-07-18 19:24:17
142.   Gagne55
That's four in a row by Davis.
2008-07-18 19:24:56
143.   Andrew Shimmin
140- Yes. And they're looking mighty smooth.
2008-07-18 19:25:06
144.   Bob Timmermann
You're crazy, man, crazy!

I just sit back and enjoy games like this. Nothing more fun than a night of DT fulminating and bloviating and cursing the darkness.

2008-07-18 19:25:46
145.   Gagne55
138 You worded that poorly, but I would cdrtainly not be suprised if the final score of this one ends up 4-3.
2008-07-18 19:26:18
146.   D4P
Nothing more fun than a night of DT fulminating and bloviating and cursing the darkness


2008-07-18 19:27:16
147.   JoeyP
Pitchforks get ratings.
2008-07-18 19:27:33
148.   bhsportsguy
137 Why would they hate each other, they never played together at anytime, probably the only time they ever crossed paths was during ST or maybe even that gathering the team had back in January.

I don't think players hate each other, obviously they all want to play but they have big enough egos to think that all they need is a chance. LaRoche can't be mad at DeWitt because he is playing because I don't think you can survive that way in pro sports.

2008-07-18 19:27:49
149.   Gagne55
And the Dodgers go down 1-2-3... sigh
2008-07-18 19:28:24
150.   Bob Timmermann
I should also point out that Maicer Izturis had an RBI double in his first AB tonight.
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2008-07-18 19:28:38
151.   underdog
If bloviating means repeating the same point over and over again, then you're right by gum! I'm pulling up my comfiest chair and pouring myself some fine brandy. I shall warm the palms of my hands over the toasty glow of my laptop.

Or, as a Bette Davis character once said, "Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy game." Or something.

2008-07-18 19:30:08
152.   bhsportsguy
148 I should rephrase that, sure players may not like each other but I don't think it is usually about playing time. It's more about things like allotment of game tickets or trash cans.
2008-07-18 19:30:47
153.   JoeyP
Thanks Drew.
That was ball 4 off his shoe tops.
2008-07-18 19:31:58
154.   thinkblue88
It's not like he is being patient this year, 19 walk for the season.
2008-07-18 19:32:13
155.   GMac In The 909
133 He plays the game the right way.
2008-07-18 19:33:38
156.   bhsportsguy
So Kuroda is 1-6 on the road since his first start in San Diego.
2008-07-18 19:34:12
157.   spacebrother
I am reminded of radio host/ humorist Jean Shepherd's description of a late 1930s White Sox Game: "It was futility meeting hopelessness, head-on."
2008-07-18 19:34:24
158.   ucladodger
Even with the crap defense behind him, Kiroki looks really bad today.
2008-07-18 19:35:07
159.   oshea2002
155 - that's what I was thinking. If our lineup had A-Rod, Jeter, Matsui, Abreu, Sheffield, plus others, then I'd be ok with a couple guys being in there b/c "they play the game the right way."
2008-07-18 19:35:15
160.   JoeyP
Kuroda's luck is turning the other way tonight.
2008-07-18 19:35:26
161.   OhioBlues12
Orlando Hudson kills us.
2008-07-18 19:35:47
162.   MonkeyBlue
I give up.
2008-07-18 19:35:58
163.   Gagne55
Kuroda being lit up like a Christmas tree out there...
2008-07-18 19:36:40
164.   underdog
That passed ball or WP was Gary Bennett's fault.
2008-07-18 19:37:17
165.   Gagne55
I wonder how much longer till Chan Ho.
2008-07-18 19:37:36
166.   JoeyP
Druw catches that ball a couple years ago.
2008-07-18 19:37:52
167.   ucladodger
This is painful. Hiroki has had his fair share of gawd-awful starts. This is just another one of them.
2008-07-18 19:38:15
168.   OhioBlues12
This is one of those short stints for Kuroda.
2008-07-18 19:38:24
169.   underdog
Yeah, this is not the beautiful Kuroda we saw at home the past few times. This is not my beautiful wife. This is not my beautiful house.

Bring in Jason Johnson!

2008-07-18 19:38:54
170.   bhsportsguy
It is interesting that either Kuroda has it or he doesn't. When he doesn't, he can't get guys out.
2008-07-18 19:39:44
171.   Gagne55
169 That would mean Chan Ho stays in the rotation.
2008-07-18 19:40:56
172.   underdog
Matt Williams is pretty observant, decent as a commentator but he is so dull to listen to, he wouldn't even cut it as a golf announcer.
2008-07-18 19:41:08
173.   68elcamino427
Thirty seven pitch first inning may have tired Kuroda out a little bit.
2008-07-18 19:41:23
174.   nofatmike
170 When you're not a strikeout pitcher, that's usually par for the course.
2008-07-18 19:41:27
175.   underdog
171 - Yah, but JJ is warming up in the pen.
2008-07-18 19:41:34
176.   sporky
I stayed in for this game! The Dodgers better win :(
2008-07-18 19:42:19
177.   ucladodger

He really is pretty hit or miss. He has had some brilliant starts, but this is his third start with 6 earned in under 3 innings. Thats not so good in 18 starts.

2008-07-18 19:42:48
178.   tjshere
I hope this poor performance isn't an indicator that Kuroda's shoulder is acting up again.
2008-07-18 19:44:03
179.   JoeyP
Kuroda hasnt got hit as hard as the score indicates.
2008-07-18 19:44:30
180.   underdog
Would be nice also if the Dodgers don't make me look foolish for predicting they weren't done scoring today.
2008-07-18 19:45:24
181.   underdog
Yeah, by my count, and this may be slightly off, he really should have given up no more than 3 or 4 runs if the defense had bailed him out more. Still, he hasn't been very sharp.
2008-07-18 19:45:54
182.   Gagne55
175 Huh. Then it looks like Tony Jackson was wrong and Johnson was called up for relief. Which means Park stays in the rotation.
2008-07-18 19:46:40
183.   68elcamino427
Kuroda can seek redemption by continuing to entice the batters to hit the ball to the second baseman.
2008-07-18 19:47:38
184.   Louis in SF
Since kent takes a day off at least once a week. Wouldn't it make sense to increase that to two or three and give the rest to Andy. The defense would be about the same and you could also get a better idea of what Andy can or can't do at that position. If Kent gets hot you can ride him a little longer.

I know this won't happen because Ned loves Jeff from his days in SF. Torre and Kent also have the same agent. This would be both a help for the club this year and give a better idea of what to do next year.

2008-07-18 19:48:03
185.   bisonjones
Hi all. I'm watching on super-slow gameday (with the help of some replays that give me a sense of what's going on). Here's what I think. Good teams make plays. Mediocre to bad teams make lots of little mistakes that turn potential 5-run offensive innings into 3-run innings; that give the opposition extra bases and and extra outs that determine games.

That play by Kent in the first inning (getting "picked off" by the third baseman was HUGE. It changed the dynamic of what should have been a rare and potentially momentous first inning into one that had Arizona going into the dugout thinking "that could have been worse." That play epitomized (to me) why this Dodger team is not yet a good team. At a big moment in their season, the PVLs have their heads you know where.


2008-07-18 19:48:21
186.   underdog
Memo to DBacks Broadcast Crew:

The game on the field is more interesting than the dugouts and the stands and the stories and the sideline reporter. Thanks.

2008-07-18 19:49:16
187.   ucladodger

Well, you never really know though. If Kent makes the play he is out of the inning with no runs and 16-18 pitches or so. Then he starts with 5-6-7 of Arizona and maybe he finds it then and goes 1-2-3. That play by Kent not only has an impact on that inning for Kuroda, but for the rest of the game.

2008-07-18 19:49:28
188.   thinkblue88
Great AB by Ethier so far.
2008-07-18 19:50:30
189.   MonkeyBlue
Ethier chased that one.
2008-07-18 19:50:31
190.   ucladodger
What a great AB, and then he chases.
2008-07-18 19:51:21
191.   underdog
Darn. That really was a great at bat by Ethier until he K'd. Worked the pitch count well though.

Good to see Donnie Mattingly in the dugout there, btw.

2008-07-18 19:52:40
192.   Gagne55
188 ,189 Ahh! conflicting information!
2008-07-18 19:53:02
193.   underdog
Oh well, small comfort but if the Dodgers lose this game I have "Spaced" on DVD to cheer me up tonight!
2008-07-18 19:53:08
194.   68elcamino427
Notice that Mattingly wears his spectacles on his jacket?
2008-07-18 19:53:17
195.   ucladodger
5 run home run to redeem yourself, Kent.
2008-07-18 19:53:52
196.   thinkblue88
Key words, "so far"
2008-07-18 19:55:00
197.   68elcamino427
Another walk for the Old Man.
Pinch runner?
2008-07-18 19:55:02
198.   underdog
Well, at least Kent is making like Andy LaRoche at the plate tonight!
2008-07-18 19:55:52
199.   Icaros
Torre is such a stupid idiot.
2008-07-18 19:56:04
200.   MonkeyBlue
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2008-07-18 19:56:07
201.   sporky
2008-07-18 19:56:12
202.   thinkblue88
2008-07-18 19:56:25
203.   ucladodger
Alright, Nomar! Please stay healthy because you can hit for a SS.
2008-07-18 19:56:29
204.   Alex41592
Nomar absolutely destroyed that 3-0 pitch.
2008-07-18 19:56:31
205.   Icaros
Okay, I'll take that.
2008-07-18 19:56:35
206.   underdog
2008-07-18 19:56:52
207.   JoeyP
Thats our SS!

3-0 green light.

Home Runs are cool.

2008-07-18 19:56:55
208.   68elcamino427
Garciaparra Home Run!
2008-07-18 19:57:07
209.   underdog
I'm sure I wasn't the only one thinking "Okay, take all the way Nomar... er, NEVER MIND!"
2008-07-18 19:57:07
210.   Alex41592
Doug Davis 77 pitches in the third.
2008-07-18 19:57:23
211.   GMac In The 909
Cue Low Rider.
2008-07-18 19:57:31
212.   whodat807
...was not expecting that. NOMAH!
2008-07-18 19:57:36
213.   sporky
I didn't think this would be such a high-scoring game.
2008-07-18 19:57:47
214.   bhsportsguy
That was impressive, his home runs this year before that (all 2) have been pulled shots down the line, that one he hit to right center, not an area usually visited by Nomar.
2008-07-18 19:57:54
215.   MonkeyBlue
Some pitching matchup.
2008-07-18 19:57:58
216.   underdog
That's hilarious. He not only hit a homer but he knocked off some food from a picnic table out there in that stupid pool area. Well played sir!
2008-07-18 19:58:02
217.   Bob Timmermann
Is that complaint in context to something going on in this game, the season as a whole, or are your applying that globally to every action taken by Joe Torre?
2008-07-18 19:58:30
218.   ucladodger
Davis blows worse than Kuroda tonight. Too bad Hiroki is behind.
2008-07-18 19:58:31
219.   sporky
Please make contact, Andruw.
2008-07-18 19:58:38
220.   Icaros
See? Nomar learned what I learned in high school. RH batters have to take Davis the other way. All I got was a single, though.
2008-07-18 19:58:52
221.   68elcamino427
#7 Loney with the walk.
2008-07-18 19:58:57
222.   MonkeyBlue
219. Stop asking for miracles.
2008-07-18 19:58:59
223.   whodat807
Wow, he hit a homer and ruined a D-backs' fan's dinner. Two birds, one swing of the bat.
2008-07-18 19:59:13
224.   underdog
Did I or did I not say the Dodgers were not done scoring? I thank you, your honor.


Okay, Matt Williams? This isn't a funeral! Stop announcing it like it's one.

2008-07-18 19:59:35
225.   JoeyP
Doug Davis throws so slow.
Its amazing he can get anyone out.
2008-07-18 19:59:45
226.   Icaros


2008-07-18 20:00:05
227.   Bob Timmermann
The Cardinals have only four bench players available tonight as they are using a 13-man pitching staff.

LaRussa has used two of the reserves already and both have played second base.

2008-07-18 20:00:35
228.   sporky
Or walk. I'm not terribly picky.
2008-07-18 20:00:42
229.   Bob Timmermann
That was a multiple choice question with options given. None of the options were "yes."
2008-07-18 20:00:57
230.   GMac In The 909
Wow. Jones looks scared and lost at the plate every time.
2008-07-18 20:01:01
231.   JoeyP
That was 84 MPH right down the middle.
2008-07-18 20:01:16
232.   Icaros
Jones is such a stupid idiot.
2008-07-18 20:01:37
233.   sporky
I guess Doug pitched around Loney to get to Andruw. It's like we have two pitchers in the lineup.
2008-07-18 20:01:45
234.   68elcamino427
Mr. Jones, Mr. Jones ...
2008-07-18 20:01:47
235.   OhioBlues12
I am so sad that we have this guy for another year and a half.
2008-07-18 20:01:53
236.   ucladodger
How can Torre keep putting Jones in the lineup? He might be one of the 5 worst everyday players in the last 2 or 3 decades. It gets to a point where enough is enough.
2008-07-18 20:02:00
237.   Icaros

All of the above.

2008-07-18 20:02:05
238.   MonkeyBlue
Why is Jones still in the lineup???
2008-07-18 20:02:24
239.   GMac In The 909
232 I couldn't have said it better myself. Ha ha.
2008-07-18 20:02:48
240.   JoeyP
236--"We need Andruw Jones if we're going to win"--Joe Torre circa May 2008.
2008-07-18 20:03:44
241.   JoeyP
Quick hook for Hiroki.
2008-07-18 20:03:57
242.   Bob Timmermann
Thank you.
2008-07-18 20:04:26
243.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Andruw has renewed our faith in Juan Pierre.

I'm REALLY trying to be positive.

2008-07-18 20:04:28
244.   Bob Timmermann
It's Endocrine System Disorder Night here at Chase Field!
2008-07-18 20:04:39
245.   underdog
DJ Houlton in now... er, I mean Jason Johnson. (Same number.)
2008-07-18 20:04:50
246.   GMac In The 909
Jason Johnson fits right in with this group.
2008-07-18 20:04:56
247.   MonkeyBlue
Bring back Kuroda.... this is going to be long night.
2008-07-18 20:05:01
248.   Icaros
Who did this worthless pile of junk replace? Saito?
2008-07-18 20:05:04
249.   JoeyP
Welcome back to the bigs Jason.
2008-07-18 20:05:11
250.   nofatmike
224 Does anybody remember the verbal altercation Matt Williams got into with Orel? I don't remember exactly what was said, but it had something to do with the Giants getting eliminated on the last game of '93.

Being that Orel was one of my favorite players back then, Matt Williams became Public Enemy No. 1 in my eyes up until he got traded to Cleveland.

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2008-07-18 20:05:23
251.   underdog
Good start for JJ!

Don't unpack too quickly, my friend.

2008-07-18 20:05:39
252.   sporky
Kershaw will probably replace Johnson in a few days.
2008-07-18 20:05:46
253.   68elcamino427
Welcome back to the Major Leagues Jason.
2008-07-18 20:06:16
254.   JoeyP
Nice play Kent.
A couple innings late though.
2008-07-18 20:06:52
255.   sporky
Is Scherzer going to take over?
2008-07-18 20:07:13
256.   Who Is Karim Garcia

Remember it like it was yesterday.... to this day, Matt Williams is on my sad face list. I loathed that guy.

So is Andruw Jones.

2008-07-18 20:07:41
257.   Bob Timmermann
Williams was upset that Hershiser was riding him from the bench during the final game of the 1993 season. But he didn't call out Hershiser by name.

Williams then went on to predict that the Dodgers would not beat the Giants once in 1994.

Williams was wrong.

I also remember Williams once refusing to take first base after he got hit by a pitch by Hideo Nomo. The pitch was fairly close to his head and Williams wanted to get a chance to hit again against Nomo. The umpire was not dissuaded and ordered Williams to take first.

For the most part, I've never liked Matt Williams.

2008-07-18 20:07:53
258.   whodat807
Finally, a nice pick by Kent.

Is anyone else relieved that Johnson isn't going to be in the starting rotation? I'd much rather have Chan Ho slotted in the 5 spot than this guy.

2008-07-18 20:08:05
259.   bhsportsguy
Wow, dude gives up a run and folks want to run him out of town.
2008-07-18 20:08:12
260.   Bob Timmermann
Robertson was last seen warming up for the DBacks.
2008-07-18 20:08:31
261.   Icaros

Yes, I also remember when Williams wanted to fight Roger Cedeno for stealing third when the Dodgers had a fairly large lead.

Williams was a very insecure player. I ended up hating Cedeno, though.

2008-07-18 20:09:12
262.   JoeyP
I dont think people ever wanted him in town to begin with.
2008-07-18 20:09:19
263.   ucladodger
Computer shut down, but i dont think it is too late to point out that Andruw has struck out 16 out of 34 ABs since returning to the lineup. Yay!
2008-07-18 20:10:03
264.   Who Is Karim Garcia

Bob, I remember that. Thanks for reminding me how much I despised Matt Williams. Feels, oddly enough, good.

2008-07-18 20:10:13
265.   Icaros

Why should we want him here? Because you think he's a nice guy?

2008-07-18 20:10:18
266.   ucladodger
Nice play.
2008-07-18 20:10:40
267.   thinkblue88
Russ limping! no!!!!!
2008-07-18 20:10:52
268.   whodat807
259 I don't want him run out of town, I just can't understand why he would be called up to replace Park when Kershaw has done such a solid job in his first call-up. The move makes much more sense if he's a long reliever.
2008-07-18 20:11:41
269.   Bob Timmermann
The sad part was that Cedeno didn't even get credit for a stolen base.
2008-07-18 20:11:56
270.   sporky
McDonald went 7 innings for Jacksonville and gave up 2 ER, along with 3 strikeouts and 2 walks.

DeJesus is back at SS.

2008-07-18 20:12:15
271.   underdog
That was a nice play actually.

You know, I find it hard not to root for guys like Jason Johnson, attempting to come back to the bigs, it's just hard for me to not feel something for them.

On the other hand, it's hard to get excited about watching him pitch, or root for him over some younger pitcher who came through the system. On the other other hand, we already have a couple of rookies in the pen who have contributed and looked pretty decent, and I'm not sure Meloan is ready yet. On the other hand, I do hope to see Kershaw again soon.

On the other... arrgggh {explode!} I need to eat dinner.

2008-07-18 20:12:52
272.   Andrew Shimmin
If the man had time to strip all the way naked, is it really "quick thinking" for a group of professional athletes to subsequently keep him from blowing up the emergency exit?
2008-07-18 20:14:00
273.   Bob Timmermann
Although I dislike Matt Williams, he is on no list nor is he anywhere near approaching obelisk status.
2008-07-18 20:14:04
274.   whodat807
272 Haha, I had that exact same thought.
2008-07-18 20:16:06
275.   Bob Timmermann
I remember Jason Johnson's home run off of Jeff Weaver.
2008-07-18 20:16:19
276.   bhsportsguy
255 He hasn't pitched since June 15th in Tuscon.
2008-07-18 20:16:42
277.   Bob Timmermann
Fourth inning goal for the Dodgers:

Make sure that Drew doesn't bat for the fourth time.

2008-07-18 20:16:57
278.   Andrew Shimmin
Was that the year when Weaver was on pace to break the single season record for most homeruns allowed to pitchers? That was pretty awesome.
2008-07-18 20:17:25
279.   Icaros

Did not realize that. And look who started the game for LA, lasting only two innings, K-ing six but walking 5.

2008-07-18 20:18:18
280.   GMac In The 909
I'd like this as a Carmax text question: Should Andruw Jones start another game this season? Text Yes to NEDCO (63326) or No to FIRED (34733)
2008-07-18 20:18:24
281.   Bob Timmermann
In the game that Jason Johnson homered, Johnson also gave up a 2-run homer to Jason Grabowski.
2008-07-18 20:18:51
282.   nofatmike
261 I think the term "idiot" best describes the kind of player Matt Williams was. Check out his OBP in 1994. I bet he had the lowest OBP that season for a player with a .900 OPS in 300 PA's, as well as the lowest OBP in a season for a player with over 40 HR's in a season also.
2008-07-18 20:19:20
283.   bhsportsguy
265 No because for some stupid reason. Like he is pitching for the Dodgers right now.

I have never understood rooting for players on my team to do poorly, so I don't do that.

2008-07-18 20:22:17
284.   whodat807
283 I don't think anybody is rooting for Johnson to do badly.
2008-07-18 20:22:35
285.   JoeyP
I think you're confusing rooting for someone to do poor, vs acknowledging someone is a poor player.

Making an observation that Jason Johnson or a Juan Pierre arent very good at baseball is just that---making an observation.

An observation that apparently Dodger Mgmt doesnt recognize, and for that they are critiqued here and other places.

2008-07-18 20:23:20
286.   Andrew Shimmin
No one's rooting against Johnson. Except me, I mean, but I'm a D'back fan.
2008-07-18 20:23:33
287.   ucladodger
Johnson's experience really is making a difference, isnt it Torre?
2008-07-18 20:25:00
288.   JoeyP
The days of rooting for crappy players to play crappy, in the hopes that mgmt will learn something from playing said players, is over.

This Mgmt doesnt learn from previous mistakes, so its pointless to root for short term failure in hopes of the longer term greater good.

2008-07-18 20:25:35
289.   Andrew Shimmin
I can't see any reason to believe that Dodger Management thinks Jason Johnson is good. They think he's a warm body on a team that already has Falkenborg, Stults, and Park. And they're right.
2008-07-18 20:25:47
290.   underdog
Johnson looks like one of the actors who was on Twin Peaks...


Well, it's probably not worth for discussing that long anyway, I don't expect him to be on the team very long.

2008-07-18 20:26:55
291.   underdog
Well, one run in 2 innings was better than Kuroda did, not that either were too impressive tonight.
2008-07-18 20:27:42
292.   Icaros

Yeah, I want the Dodgers to win as badly as you do, maybe more.

I root for the correct players to play.

2008-07-18 20:28:21
293.   underdog
Kershaw will be up next week. That's my bold prediction. You will be quoting this comment number when it happens. And when he does, Johnson or Stults or one of those guys will probably be sent away. And people can then shift their complaints to the return of Mark Sweeney.
2008-07-18 20:29:33
294.   Icaros

I'm still dreading the day Pierre returns. That's going to be so depressing.

2008-07-18 20:29:38
295.   GMac In The 909
292 I root for common sense to prevail. I expect to be rooting for a while.
2008-07-18 20:29:43
296.   Bob Timmermann
As ToyCannon pointed out earlier in the day, Kershaw couldn't have pitched today anyway, so he was unlikely to be called up.

Johnson could very well be a placeholder for a week or two.

2008-07-18 20:30:12
297.   underdog
Did anyone catch Darren Sutton calling James Loney "Matt Kemp" in the dugout earlier? Whoops.
2008-07-18 20:30:41
298.   JoeyP
293--I hope so. But similar comments were made about Angel Berroa, and he's still here.

Isnt he?

2008-07-18 20:30:41
299.   underdog
294 Pierre who?
2008-07-18 20:31:04
300.   Icaros

They all look the same.

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2008-07-18 20:31:06
301.   sporky
2008-07-18 20:31:35
302.   The Dude Abides
I'm hoping that somehow the Dodgers keep winning, but Druw strikes out every time he bats. That way, Joe might consider platooning him and Juan when the latter is ready to play again. Seeing Ethier or Kemp benched in order to get one of our two historically inept hitters in the lineup would anger me so much that I might switch my allegiance to the Angels.
2008-07-18 20:31:37
303.   Andrew Shimmin
Still a D'back fan, but that was disappointing.
2008-07-18 20:31:41
304.   underdog
Damn. That looked like a sure double but hung up there too long.
2008-07-18 20:31:53
305.   sporky
PVL redemption time!
2008-07-18 20:32:25
306.   bhsportsguy
292 Then why does it matter who plays, that makes it sound like its not the end result that matters, its the journey that counts.
2008-07-18 20:32:39
307.   whodat807
In a non-Dodger tangent, did anybody go see the Dark Knight last night? It blew my face off with pure awesomeness.

(Forgive me if this has been discussed already or if it's an inappropriate subject to bring up while the ball game is going on.) what a catch.

2008-07-18 20:32:43
308.   Icaros

You know...that French guy.

2008-07-18 20:32:46
309.   GMac In The 909
298 Berroa is still around to keep the Dodgers safe from vampires.
2008-07-18 20:33:14
310.   The Dude Abides
Oops I forgot about Sweeney. Should have written "one of our three historically inept hitters."
2008-07-18 20:33:46
311.   underdog
Aww, I can't get enough of those shots of Joe Garagedooropener in the stands, proudly watching his DBacks.
2008-07-18 20:35:10
312.   underdog
307 Not yet. Last night I enjoyed the hell out of Hellboy II and watched with amusement as people dressed in Batman-related costumes waited in line to go see The Dark Knight. I want to see it a great deal but am not sure I want to wear a costume -- is that a requirement?

309 - Hah!

2008-07-18 20:35:20
313.   Icaros

Because if the correct players do not play, the chances of the end result being good are very very low.

Seriously, do you blindly root for anyone wearing the uniform just because management puts them there? Would you ask for my autograph if I started at short tomorrow?

2008-07-18 20:35:38
314.   sporky
No sombrero for Andruw!
2008-07-18 20:35:59
315.   GMac In The 909
Did Jones hurt himself or is Torre making a double switch two innings too late?
2008-07-18 20:36:06
316.   underdog
313 - I would!
2008-07-18 20:36:08
317.   JoeyP
306---Isnt the journey part of the enjoyment of baseball though?

Its a long season. A really long season.

The journey, and things that may actually help the Dodgers for future end results (like developing youngsters with upside), is part of what makes baseball enjoyable, at least for me.

If its all about trying to win 80 games with a bloated payroll, crappy PVL, and mind numbing decisions....vs winning maybe 75 games and developing exciting players for the future---I'm going with the latter.

I think to almost all baseball fans, the 162 game journey is what is entertainment.

If it was all about the end results, I wouldnt even watch bc the Dodgers are going nowhere this year given the players they have, and the ones that they play.

2008-07-18 20:36:20
318.   ucladodger
Wow, Druw is out. Maybe he pulled a muscle watching Davis' 84 mph fastball for a called 3rd strike.
2008-07-18 20:36:43
319.   Bob Timmermann
As a proud owner of a Rudy Law-autographed baseball, I would say the answer is yes!
2008-07-18 20:38:25
320.   sporky
Lucille II has his first error of the year.
2008-07-18 20:38:57
321.   bhsportsguy
319 Don't forget Kenny Landreaux signed that ball too, but then they may take away your point.
2008-07-18 20:39:17
322.   mwhite06
Does Jason Johnson remind anybody else of Andy Ashby?
2008-07-18 20:39:48
323.   underdog
Wait, when did Delwyn come into the game?
2008-07-18 20:39:51
324.   sporky
2008-07-18 20:40:47
325.   Bob Timmermann
I will not greet anyone visiting me at the Central Library unless they have a baseball autographed by a Dodgers center fielder.

If you can bring me one signed by the Black Mike Ramsey, I will take you to the Rare Books Room.

2008-07-18 20:40:55
326.   underdog
Weirdly, I knew that wasn't going out the whole time. Maybe it was Ethier's body language or wishful thinking...
2008-07-18 20:41:06
327.   JoeyP
323--Druw was taken out for General Suckiness, er soreness.
2008-07-18 20:41:14
328.   whodat807
Did I miss Jones being pulled and Young being subbed in, or did these awful announcers just neglect to mention it?
2008-07-18 20:41:53
329.   Icaros
If I attend the picnic, I will be available for autographs between 11:30 and 1:00, for a fee of $10.

I will only be autographing copies of either my Masters thesis or my former band's debut album from 2000, however. Good luck finding either of those.

2008-07-18 20:42:24
330.   ucladodger
Wow! Nomarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
2008-07-18 20:42:33
333.   sporky
2008-07-18 20:42:47
334.   thinkblue88
wow. that's awesome!
2008-07-18 20:42:48
335.   JoeyP
Thats our SS!


Home Runs are cool.

2008-07-18 20:42:55
336.   Bob Timmermann
Andy Ashby has a much better pancreas than Jason Johnson.
2008-07-18 20:42:59
337.   underdog
Wow. Nomar just rocks tonight.
2008-07-18 20:43:05
338.   GMac In The 909
Cue Low Rider (again).
2008-07-18 20:43:33
339.   MonkeyBlue
Nomar WOW!
2008-07-18 20:43:44
340.   Icaros
Cool. Now we won't be trading for banjo hitters from Pittsburgh.
2008-07-18 20:44:03
341.   underdog
328 - I wondered that too, so I guess yes to both.

The best thing about Nomar doing well is that it also keeps the Dodgers from making a panic trade for another SS.

2008-07-18 20:44:21
342.   GMac In The 909
327 Ted and Robin: General Suckiness!
2008-07-18 20:44:26
343.   whodat807
Wow, what a game from Nomar.
2008-07-18 20:44:58
344.   underdog
I really like Torre pulling Jones out, btw. That's the right move but I wasn't expecting him to.
2008-07-18 20:45:12
345.   JoeyP
Pee Wee is losing his mojo.
2008-07-18 20:45:43
346.   GMac In The 909
345 ... and just in time for Sweeney to swoop in!
2008-07-18 20:45:59
347.   bhsportsguy
329 I'll be there with my money. And some smoked meats.

Remember breakfast for anyone there between 9:00-10:00, up to 12 (dozen eggs).

2008-07-18 20:46:24
348.   underdog
On the other hand, Pee Wee didn't fare any better than Druw...
2008-07-18 20:46:28
349.   whodat807
Wow, it's gotta be embarrassing to be pulled in the 5th inning for being awful. I thought he had pulled something.
2008-07-18 20:47:27
350.   JoeyP
Is this Nomar's first multi-homer game since 2006?
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2008-07-18 20:47:57
351.   whodat807
349 hmm, pretty poor word choice, using "pulled" twice when meaning two different things.
2008-07-18 20:48:00
352.   bhsportsguy
341 Of course, they could worry about him hurting himself at SS and want to move to 3B.
2008-07-18 20:50:07
353.   sporky
Andruw: flu like symptoms.
2008-07-18 20:50:27
354.   GMac In The 909
This week's excuse for Andruw Jones: the flu.
2008-07-18 20:51:26
355.   Andrew Shimmin
First since 7/21/2002, it looks like. He hit three, the next day.

2008-07-18 20:51:29
356.   whodat807
The flu? What a load of crock.
2008-07-18 20:52:24
357.   Andrew Shimmin
Both of those HRs were hit off of Jeff Weaver.
2008-07-18 20:52:59
358.   Icaros

I'm leaning toward being there, and I'll sign anything you want for free as a gesture of friendship. :-)

2008-07-18 20:54:38
359.   Louis in SF
That is what is so frustrating. I think a number of people on this site saw great potential this year but not necessarily a championship club. Giving Kemp and LaRoche a full season was important to get a better idea of what they can do at the major league level.

Accepting the need to win right now and the unfair advantages the PVL's get, there still have been far more opportunities to play LaRoche and sit Jones to give Young a few more AB's.

2008-07-18 20:55:02
360.   whodat807
If Johnson is pitching out the bullpen, then is CHP still starting? Torre said he'd be moved to be a set up man...
2008-07-18 20:56:29
361.   Bob Timmermann
18 up, 18 down for Sabathia in San Francisco. Lewis singled to lead off the game and was doubled up.
2008-07-18 20:56:52
362.   sporky
Johnson may still remain a starter. Today was his turn in the LV rotation.

Or someone else might be called up by Monday/Tuesday.

2008-07-18 21:01:00
363.   berkowit28
I'm on my iPhone- too tricky to get to BP. How many more ABs, so divide by 4 for prable games, would Jones have to get out every time to hit the Sweeney line of 1.00? I sure hope Torre benches him permanently before then, but surely he'd have to do it then?
2008-07-18 21:01:19
364.   berkowit28
I'm on my iPhone- too tricky to get to BP. How many more ABs, so divide by 4 for prable games, would Jones have to get out every time to hit the Sweeney line of 1.00? I sure hope Torre benches him permanently before then, but surely he'd have to do it then?
2008-07-18 21:01:52
365.   MonkeyBlue
Imagine if that was Pierre.
2008-07-18 21:02:18
366.   ucladodger
Great. The Borg. Please come through.
2008-07-18 21:03:29
367.   JoeyP
One bad thing about Saito's injury, is that it pushes Kuo out of the higher leveraged middle innings.

Too bad Torre cant bring Kuo in here.
Game is on the line.

He really does love the Borg.

2008-07-18 21:06:45
369.   Andrew Shimmin
363- 103 ABs without a hit for him to hit .100. Though it would be .100, with rounding, after 102.
2008-07-18 21:06:53
370.   sporky
2008-07-18 21:07:00
371.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-18 21:07:07
372.   ucladodger
The Borg!!!!
2008-07-18 21:07:14
373.   GMac In The 909
Brilliant move.
2008-07-18 21:07:47
374.   underdog
Nice pitch - he was assimilated!
2008-07-18 21:07:51
375.   fanerman
The Borg!!!
2008-07-18 21:08:14
376.   JoeyP
D-bax will probably go with Qualls/Pena/Lyon for the 7-8-9.

And Qualls has gotten shelled recently.

2008-07-18 21:10:11
377.   MonkeyBlue
Damn Kuo looks pretty speedy right there!
2008-07-18 21:10:23
378.   GMac In The 909
Well, that's thinking outside of the batter's box.
2008-07-18 21:11:12
379.   bhsportsguy
Nice job by Borg.

368 I have seen him at the Stadium, I'm not sure what Logans should look like, the only two people I know named Logan is the fictional character from The Uncanny X-Men and Logan Paulson, one of a multitude of tight ends at UCLA.

2008-07-18 21:12:31
380.   sporky
2008-07-18 21:12:39
381.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-18 21:12:40
382.   ucladodger
Bison Brilliance!
2008-07-18 21:12:46
383.   thinkblue88

Bison power. That was pretty.

2008-07-18 21:12:47
384.   GMac In The 909
Robot made of nails!
2008-07-18 21:12:51
385.   JoeyP
Matt Kemp!


2008-07-18 21:12:59
386.   Alex41592
Easy swing and it went 400+. Wow!
2008-07-18 21:13:01
387.   Icaros
Take that!
2008-07-18 21:13:19
388.   fanerman
2008-07-18 21:13:20
389.   ucladodger
He waited on that change and put a serious charge into it. Great job.
2008-07-18 21:13:31
390.   underdog
2008-07-18 21:13:35
391.   Alex41592
Kuroda is off the hook.
2008-07-18 21:13:46
392.   Bob Timmermann
You could see Rosales' head sag as soon as he saw where that pitch was located.
2008-07-18 21:13:48
393.   sporky
squee again.
2008-07-18 21:14:10
394.   thinkblue88

Andre power!

2008-07-18 21:14:17
395.   68elcamino427
And that is why they call him the Bison!
Home Run!
2008-07-18 21:14:45
396.   underdog
Rosales is getting rocked. Maybe Qualls should've come in after all. Tee hee.
2008-07-18 21:14:45
397.   MonkeyBlue
Did that guy get in the face with the Ground rule double?
2008-07-18 21:14:59
398.   68elcamino427
Ethier follows with a long double!
2008-07-18 21:15:27
399.   underdog
I don't want to say this is a really long game, but I've actually finished most of "Remembrance of Things Past" while it's been on.
2008-07-18 21:15:28
400.   MonkeyBlue
297. add hit
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2008-07-18 21:15:42
401.   LeeLacy
"In play, run(s)" and "In play, no out"

Two of the sweetest phrases in life.

2008-07-18 21:16:38
402.   GMac In The 909
400 ... and also add 100 =)
2008-07-18 21:16:48
403.   berkowit28
369 Thanks. (Yeah, I meant .100.) That's 25 games or so. More if he's given an occasional walk. Far too many games. Tpree better act sooner than that.

Kemp! Ethier! Martin up!

2008-07-18 21:16:54
404.   underdog
The Dbacks announcers act like they had the lead from the beginning and blew it. Uh, first the Dodgers blew it guys, then your team. Share the pain.
2008-07-18 21:17:20
405.   sporky
That's an awfully slim Penny bobblehead.
2008-07-18 21:17:31
406.   Alex41592
Martin vs. Pena : 0 for 6
2008-07-18 21:17:47
407.   Marty
Just tuned in. Seems like quite a game.

I spent most of this week cleaning up blood stains, so I decided to spend all day today watching The Wire's second season. I got through 10 episodes. It just keeps getting better.

2008-07-18 21:19:07
408.   underdog
Uh... blood stains?

Guess that fits watching The Wire. And the 2nd was my least favorite of the show's seasons (though it was still excellent).

2008-07-18 21:19:34
409.   KAYVMON
Russ wanted that one back
2008-07-18 21:19:49
410.   GMac In The 909
Umm, tie goes to the runner?
2008-07-18 21:20:07
411.   nofatmike
Roam Free!!!

(a little late, I admit)

2008-07-18 21:20:19
412.   sporky
I thought Andre advanced to third.
2008-07-18 21:20:25
413.   underdog
Ooo, Martin and Duncan were not happy with that call at first.
2008-07-18 21:20:52
414.   ucladodger
Man, i thought he beat that out. now its time for Jeff to make a difference in a positive way.
2008-07-18 21:20:53
415.   underdog
412- He did.
2008-07-18 21:21:39
416.   Andrew Shimmin
Montero's going to need some ice, after this inning.
2008-07-18 21:21:58
417.   thinkblue88
Just to clear things up, how many RBIs does Nomar have tonight? frontpage says 5, Gameday says 3, and Vin say 4.
2008-07-18 21:22:50
418.   berkowit28
Kent waiting on his 1500th RBI. Think be can do it now?
2008-07-18 21:23:14
419.   Bob Timmermann
OK, pretty boy, it's Guo Time!

Mandlebaum! Mandlebaum!

2008-07-18 21:23:30
420.   underdog
Oooo... He almost did. Pena got away with one there, a fat hanging change that Kent roped but right at the outfielder.
2008-07-18 21:24:04
421.   berkowit28
Nope. Not this time.
2008-07-18 21:24:15
422.   Alex41592
Kuo in.
2008-07-18 21:24:39
423.   Marty
408 Figurative ones. We had kind of a Jonestown at the Times this week.

Speaking of Jones, was he pulled because of an injury, or did Dodger management finally capitulate?

2008-07-18 21:24:56
424.   underdog
419 - How 'bout that, huh? The World's Greatest Dad. My son made it for me.
2008-07-18 21:25:41
425.   sporky
423 The flu.
2008-07-18 21:26:15
426.   underdog
423 - He was pulled for "suck-like symptoms." Er, I mean "flu-like."
2008-07-18 21:27:37
427.   ucladodger
Great pick by James. He has played a flawless first base for the last 3 weeks or so.
2008-07-18 21:27:40
428.   JoeyP
Kuo in high leverage.
I like it.
2008-07-18 21:28:00
429.   sporky
Kuo is a joy to watch.
2008-07-18 21:28:01
430.   Alex41592
Loney our dirt devil.
2008-07-18 21:28:54
431.   Alex41592
Goodness gracious.
2008-07-18 21:29:01
432.   ucladodger
That man is amazing. and to think 90% of baseball fans have no idea who he is.
2008-07-18 21:29:10
433.   underdog
Why is this place so Shimmin free the last couple of innings?
2008-07-18 21:29:15
434.   MonkeyBlue
I love Kuo.
2008-07-18 21:29:28
435.   JoeyP
Kuo+Brox >>>> Anything the Dbax have in their bullpen.
2008-07-18 21:29:46
436.   underdog
432 - Yeah, imagine if he was on the Red Sox. He would've been featured on ESPN The Magazine by now.
2008-07-18 21:30:10
437.   MonkeyBlue
Honestly I would like to nominate Kuo as our Closer.
2008-07-18 21:30:40
438.   KAYVMON
I dont know whats cuter - the Florida love fest for Jeff Conine last weekend OR the AZ love fest for Tony Clark?
2008-07-18 21:30:51
439.   underdog
Oops, didn't see you there hiding in 416. Hee.

Welp, I'm almost done with Remembrance of Things Past and watching "Berlin Alexandplatz." Is the game over yet?

2008-07-18 21:31:55
440.   Bob Timmermann
Both the Dodgers and Angels are playing in games with 14 combined runs.
2008-07-18 21:32:21
441.   Andrew Shimmin
433- I'm still here. I try not to be obnoxious, during a D'back series.
2008-07-18 21:33:02
442.   underdog
So, uh, is Don Mattingly already having a positive affect on this team?
2008-07-18 21:33:32
443.   sporky
440 My boss went to that game with his son. I'm guessing they may or may not be there right now.
2008-07-18 21:33:52
444.   underdog
441 - Hee hee. That's okay, I was just worried you'd caught Andruw's flu-like symptoms.
2008-07-18 21:34:20
445.   bhsportsguy
Took a dryer break. Anything going on?
2008-07-18 21:34:47
446.   Gagne55
Both the Red Sox and Diamondbacks are playing in games with 14 combined runs.
2008-07-18 21:36:29
447.   berkowit28
437 Better for Kuo to pitch two innings like today. I wouldn't expect Torre or any current manager to put him in for 8 and 9, so better 7 and 8 than just 9th.
2008-07-18 21:36:46
448.   underdog
Kemp homered and Kuo rocked, that's about it. :-)
2008-07-18 21:36:56
449.   sporky
Ken Gurnick is very generous:

In other hitting news, disabled pinch-hitter Mark Sweeney is with the club after a brief injury rehab with Las Vegas, but he has not yet been activated.

2008-07-18 21:37:19
450.   Gagne55
442 affect is a verb, not a noun
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2008-07-18 21:37:58
451.   underdog
Darn, I thought Pee Wee had a hit there.
2008-07-18 21:38:47
452.   sporky
450 Affect is a noun, but not in the way you're thinking.
2008-07-18 21:38:53
453.   underdog
450 - Yeah, I knew that after I posted it, but was hoping I wouldn't be grated. ;-)

(Kidding. I know it's spelled greated.)

2008-07-18 21:40:01
454.   underdog
Er, yeah, actually "affect" is both a very and a noun. Half point off for you, too.
2008-07-18 21:40:04
455.   sporky
452 *is also
2008-07-18 21:40:38
456.   underdog
Verb, not very.

Me fail typing? That's unpossible.

2008-07-18 21:40:45
457.   immouch
i still say kuo could be a very solid starter.
2008-07-18 21:43:24
458.   Gagne55
452 (goes to Huh. "Affect" can mean "emotion." I never knew that.
2008-07-18 21:43:35
459.   Bob Timmermann
The effect of Kemp's affect on the field has not affected me personally, but it has effected a change in the way people perceive Kemp in the media.
2008-07-18 21:43:59
460.   berkowit28
But if theyvcan get through the 7th without needing Kuo then, yeah, it might be better to use Broxton before Kuo sometimes. Or if they can get through the 8th without either, then Kup. Torre said asuch today, but he never actually does what he says so that means nothing.
2008-07-18 21:44:03
461.   Andrew Shimmin
Show off.
2008-07-18 21:44:48
462.   underdog
459 - Very effective post.

Man, it won't be the same if Broxton comes in here tonight and Mark Grace isn't announcing it. His mancrush on the Blue Ox is always of great amusement.

2008-07-18 21:45:30
463.   Andrew Shimmin
That was for Bob, not berkowit28. Although, berkowit did announce that he was posting from an iPhone, so I don't feel too bad if there was any confusion.
2008-07-18 21:45:49
464.   Rob M
it's damn hard to follow this game soley via the DT comment thread on my iPhone (edge network no less!) with no tv or conventional Internet.
2008-07-18 21:46:05
465.   underdog
Uh oh, Kuo in a little trouble and the killer driller, O Dog, is up.
2008-07-18 21:47:29
466.   underdog
New drinking game: Every time a Dbacks announcer says "high octane."
2008-07-18 21:47:36
467.   berkowit28
LaRoche in 9th for Kuo's spot?
2008-07-18 21:48:17
468.   Gagne55
465 The O-Dog just got K'd!!!!!
2008-07-18 21:48:28
469.   immouch
reason no. 8,321 i use "change"
2008-07-18 21:48:30
470.   68elcamino427
Vin likes Kuo
2008-07-18 21:48:32
471.   underdog
464 - Two on base in the 8th for the Dbax vs Kuo, with one out.

No, now two outs, as he strikes out Hudson!

Still 7-7.

2008-07-18 21:49:40
472.   Gagne55
Whenever I see Kuo's ESPN picture, I think of Psyduck.
2008-07-18 21:50:43
473.   immouch
torre is 68. is there a "prime" for managers?
2008-07-18 21:51:32
474.   sporky
2008-07-18 21:51:47
475.   berkowit28
463 Good memory (paying attention). But I had a few too many typos to be showing off. ;
2008-07-18 21:51:49
476.   ucladodger
Theres that man again.
2008-07-18 21:51:51
477.   thinkblue88


2008-07-18 21:51:54
478.   Alex41592
2008-07-18 21:52:06
479.   68elcamino427
2008-07-18 21:52:09
480.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-18 21:52:17
481.   immouch
i'd toss that diamondback just for the whiny face.
2008-07-18 21:52:19
482.   GMac In The 909
Awesome. My first born will be named Guo.
2008-07-18 21:52:36
483.   underdog
That looked like it was right down the middle. Why was Tracy and the DBacks announcers all complainy about it? Anyway, siddown Chad!
2008-07-18 21:53:30
484.   Gagne55
Kuo used fastball. Tracy struck out.
2008-07-18 21:54:26
485.   Bob Timmermann
The Angels and Red Sox are over with a 30 minute head start. I saw Torre checking his watch. I wonder if he thinks that he's at Fenway.
2008-07-18 21:54:27
486.   GMac In The 909
473 Yes, their first couple years of their career. After that, it's all downhill.
2008-07-18 21:54:51
487.   Xeifrank
482. I beat you to it. :)
vr, Xei
2008-07-18 21:55:11
488.   Xeifrank
Looks like Joe found his new setup man.
vr, Xei
2008-07-18 21:55:29
489.   Xeifrank
Let's see if Guo can hit the game winning HR too. vr, Xei
2008-07-18 21:55:52
490.   underdog
Going to be tough to beat Brandon Lyon...
2008-07-18 21:56:09
491.   sporky
Go Andy!
2008-07-18 21:57:03
492.   GMac In The 909
487 Well played. Then my next goldfish shall be named Guo. =)
2008-07-18 21:57:25
493.   Gagne55
Alert the LaRoche marching and Chowder Society.
2008-07-18 21:57:42
494.   underdog
Darn, just got it off the end of the bat. Nice idea, Andy.

Btw, that flushing sound they play when he gets someone out is really funny -- if you're in the 5th grade.

2008-07-18 21:58:25
495.   Wilbert Robinson
Is that Lion [Lyon] roar seriously coming from the TV broadcast?
2008-07-18 21:58:52
496.   Bob Timmermann
Annual report performance by Sabathia tonight.
2008-07-18 22:00:57
497.   Gagne55
496 9IP 10K 0BB 1ER 4H
2008-07-18 22:01:37
498.   Gagne55
The one run was a homerun by Rowand.
2008-07-18 22:04:23
499.   Gagne55
Chan Ho picking up where Kuo left off.
2008-07-18 22:05:13
500.   underdog
That'll shut Matt Williams up. "Now he's seen a lot of pitches. G ive him a hanging breaking ball. Let's end this thing. Now he knows what to expect. It's been a long at bat." Strikeout.

Those were all things he said.

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2008-07-18 22:05:32
501.   whodat807
Auspicious start for CHP tonight.
2008-07-18 22:05:33
502.   Alex41592
Ronny Turiaf officially now a Warrior.
2008-07-18 22:06:29
503.   underdog
Wow, Williams is even more of a homer than I expected. He needs to be throttled.

And once again, his request to crush a hanging breaking ball was denied.

2008-07-18 22:07:47
504.   Bob Timmermann
Four different countries represented by the Dodgers pitchers tonight and I think Beimel should count as a fifth.
2008-07-18 22:08:02
505.   whodat807
It takes nights like this and announcers like Williams to remind me how good I have it with good ol' Vin.
2008-07-18 22:09:09
506.   Gagne55
Who is this Romero guy and why haven't I seen his name before tonight?
2008-07-18 22:09:25
507.   bablue
Been watching the game but just got on the internet. Was there any reason given why Dewitt started against a lefty?
2008-07-18 22:09:42
508.   underdog
504 - The Republic of Pittsburgh?
2008-07-18 22:10:11
509.   LAbits
So for
484 I was thinkin, "Man, that guys team has funny names & I never heard of that attack."
Then I saw
472 so, I was right. Missed you at the Science Center last Saturday.

Park needs a focus band.

2008-07-18 22:10:53
510.   Alex41592
507 - Doug Davis has more trouble with lefties than righties. That would be my assumption.
2008-07-18 22:11:17
511.   bablue
We have gotten so unlucky this game! We have to hit it out to get a run while they get all sorts of weak hits.
2008-07-18 22:11:28
512.   be2ween
uh oh
2008-07-18 22:11:33
513.   The Dude Abides
507-It's been answered on this thread already. Because he plays the game the right way.
2008-07-18 22:11:59
514.   GMac In The 909
504 West Virginia seceded?
2008-07-18 22:12:47
515.   underdog
I'd bring in Broxton here, but I guess you don't want to use him for just one out, not sure he could come back out for another inning effectively. Of course it could all be moot...
2008-07-18 22:12:49
516.   Gagne55
504 Are the Dodgers the first team to have pitchers from three different Asian countries?
2008-07-18 22:14:09
517.   sporky
2008-07-18 22:14:26
518.   Alex41592
HOLY COW! Save goes to Blake DeWitt!
2008-07-18 22:14:32
519.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-18 22:14:34
520.   bablue
510, Ah I didn't know that. I guess its okay then but he had four bad at bats again this game. Its kinda sad to see Andy sit all the time...

Oh my god nevermind I LOVE YOu BLAKE!!!!!!

2008-07-18 22:14:37
521.   be2ween
2008-07-18 22:14:37
522.   The Dude Abides
Yes, he does play the game the right way.
2008-07-18 22:14:37
523.   thinkblue88
2008-07-18 22:14:50
524.   tjshere
Wow! What a play by DeWitt!
2008-07-18 22:14:51
525.   underdog
Maybe THAT's why DeWitt's in there?


2008-07-18 22:15:07
526.   jtrichey
And that my friends is why Blake Dewitt will be our third baseman and Andy laRoche will not. What a play! Congrats Blake.
2008-07-18 22:15:15
527.   68elcamino427
It's only a moment, but DeWitt just saved the game. - Vin
2008-07-18 22:15:39
528.   Gagne55
Park gets out of it. Free baseball in Arizona!
2008-07-18 22:15:48
529.   underdog
I still think Blandy LaWitt would be our best third baseman. You know, sort of hybridize them.
2008-07-18 22:15:54
530.   LAbits
507 Sure does. Or, somethin ... nice pick and save the game.
2008-07-18 22:16:20
531.   whodat807
What a play!
2008-07-18 22:16:21
532.   Lexinthedena
Laroche is not gonna crack the lineup.
2008-07-18 22:17:03
533.   Alex41592
LaRoche is NEVER going to start. Tremendous play.
2008-07-18 22:17:10
534.   Gagne55
528 Not that there haven't been plenty of extra-inning games that have taken less time than this one has already!
2008-07-18 22:17:37
535.   underdog
C'mon Andre, make him sweat a little at least.
2008-07-18 22:18:10
536.   Lexinthedena
It is nice having a 3rd baseman who can do that.
2008-07-18 22:18:40
537.   underdog
Okay, I finished watching Berlin Alexanderplatz in the time this game was on, and am now reading Gravity's Rainbow.
2008-07-18 22:19:10
538.   68elcamino427
#55 Russell Martin with the clutch line drive.
2008-07-18 22:19:32
539.   bablue
Atta boy Russ!! Lets win one in extras for once! Okay we have but it seems like forever after two extra inning losses versus the Fish.
2008-07-18 22:19:59
540.   The Dude Abides
Before this game is over, I feel the need to mention that Jeff Kent has made the two most unbelievably bad baserunning plays that I've ever seen in all my years of playing and watching baseball...and I've watched thousands of games. Has anyone ever seen a similar double play to his rally-killing baserunning mistake in the first inning tonight? I haven't. Of course, I shouldn't be too surprised, as not too many baserunners fail to score from second on a fly ball over the right fielder's head that hits the wall, even when that right fielder has turned his back to the plate.
2008-07-18 22:21:34
541.   Alex41592
Hit and run here please.
2008-07-18 22:22:44
542.   underdog
I wonder if this game will start to be like the All Star Game and will eventually reach the point where I'll stop caring.

Darnit, that was close.

2008-07-18 22:22:55
543.   bablue
Errrrgh. We always seem to struggle hitting in extras. CHP time vs. the top of the order, time to pray. :)
2008-07-18 22:23:25
544.   Gagne55
541 Why do you advocate the hit and run?
2008-07-18 22:24:28
545.   underdog
540 - Well said. Though, see comments, oh, 53 to about 100 or so...
2008-07-18 22:24:38
546.   bablue
540, Yeah we should have like 10-11 runs by now if things fell the right way.

Wow, AZ broadcast shows that one barely got in Drew's glove.

2008-07-18 22:25:14
547.   Bob Hendley
Jeez, I bailed out at 4-3 and just came back to read the obituary. Yawl are still here!
2008-07-18 22:25:25
548.   bablue
Oh, I guess no CHP time. Why take him out after one inning? Isn't Ox our last pitcher now?
2008-07-18 22:25:30
549.   Alex41592
I'm always in favor of the hit and run in hitters counts. Sometimes even not in hitters counts. For numerous reasons.
2008-07-18 22:26:49
550.   Gagne55
548 Troncoso?
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2008-07-18 22:27:27
551.   bablue
No easy innings pitching-wise this game!
2008-07-18 22:27:45
552.   Bob Hendley
540 - Actually, the initial effort to get to third by Kent in the first wasn't all that smart. He would have been out by three feet with a halfway decent throw.
2008-07-18 22:27:49
553.   68elcamino427
What if Garciaparra, Kent, and Jones all come into this game equally fired-up and ready to play?
This is what I believe happened tonight.
All three of the players want to perform well.
The results are obvious for all to see.
2008-07-18 22:27:57
554.   Gagne55
And I would not be suprised to see Stults come in in the 13th if it goes that long.
2008-07-18 22:29:19
555.   Gagne55
15 hits for Arizona tonight
2008-07-18 22:29:31
556.   bablue
Oh, forgot about him. I was just thinking we had 7 relievers and this was our 6th. Shows how much Torre's used him...

Yes, a DP!!! That was huge!!! Nice job Cory!

2008-07-18 22:29:48
557.   MonkeyBlue
double play! defense best friend!
2008-07-18 22:29:54
558.   underdog
Sweeeet! Nice job, Cory.
2008-07-18 22:29:59
559.   Gagne55
553 Doesn't everybody want to perform well?
2008-07-18 22:30:51
560.   LoneStar7
good to finally be aboard with you guys, its been very interesting to say the least
2008-07-18 22:31:20
561.   Gagne55
556 And also you have to consider that one of the relievers used is supposed to be part of the rotation.
2008-07-18 22:31:30
562.   nofatmike
So does Cory Wade have a nickname yet?
2008-07-18 22:32:20
563.   jtrichey
Sutton complains about every ball/strike call. I cannot listen to Arizona or San Diego announcers unless I just have to.
2008-07-18 22:32:40
564.   sporky
2008-07-18 22:32:51
565.   Lexinthedena
2008-07-18 22:32:54
566.   Alex41592
LONEY! YES! YES! YES! Get the Ox up!
2008-07-18 22:32:55
567.   jtrichey
You darn kids! Get off my lawn!
2008-07-18 22:32:58
568.   LoneStar7
2008-07-18 22:33:07
569.   underdog
The Dbacks announcers continue to question the ump's pitch calls. They need to see an optometrist right after Andruw Jones is done.
2008-07-18 22:33:09
570.   68elcamino427
#7 James Loney!
2008-07-18 22:33:15
571.   MonkeyBlue
Loney BABY!
2008-07-18 22:33:17
572.   Suffering Bruin
Looks like I showed up at the right time. :)
2008-07-18 22:33:25
573.   underdog

Crazy eyes!!

2008-07-18 22:34:10
574.   underdog
And speaking of the Dbacks announcers, anyone hear how truly crushed Darren Sutton sounded when calling that home run. I mean, like demoralized and sad...!
2008-07-18 22:35:01
575.   Gagne55
First place!!! (assuming Broxton saves it)
2008-07-18 22:35:01
576.   fanerman
2008-07-18 22:35:13
577.   sporky
575 No!!!
2008-07-18 22:35:20
578.   fanerman
575 Don't tempt fate!!
2008-07-18 22:35:25
579.   bablue
I just screamed "YEAHHH" so loud I probably made everone on the block mad, but I don't even care!!! JAMES LONEY!!!!!!!!!
2008-07-18 22:36:02
580.   LeeLacy
Boy, when was the last time we had 4 homers in a game?

A legitimate power surge tonight!

2008-07-18 22:36:02
581.   68elcamino427
There seems to be a huge gap between wants to and able to for Jones and to a lesser degree Kent.

Time marches on.

2008-07-18 22:36:07
582.   Suffering Bruin
We can dream that Nomar will have many more games like this one, right? We can dream.
2008-07-18 22:36:11
583.   Sam PHL
Did Sutton even call the home run? All I heard was silence, like he was too choked up to get any words out.

I loved it!

2008-07-18 22:36:18
584.   LoneStar7
572 I was just thinking that myself : )
2008-07-18 22:36:27
585.   underdog
575 - Argggh!! Does thou not believe in ye olde jinx?
2008-07-18 22:36:56
586.   Gagne55
574 It would be funny to have a White Sox-D'backs game and listen to both the calls for the crucial plays.
2008-07-18 22:37:12
587.   underdog
583 - He did, between quiet, choking sobs.
2008-07-18 22:37:18
588.   Alex41592
Arizona has Qualls and Robertson left.
2008-07-18 22:37:19
589.   whodat807

On a melancholy note, I had to restart firefox and missed the homer, which wouldn't be so frustrating had I not missed all three previous Dodgers homers. Maybe me not watching is good luck.

2008-07-18 22:37:22
590.   Icaros

Only because you want to bring value to your jersey.

2008-07-18 22:37:52
591.   underdog
I do wonder why Melvin didn't pitch Qualls tonight. Seems odd. But, whatever.
2008-07-18 22:38:06
592.   bablue
563, Amen. I was thinking the same thing. Yet he never questions when Arizona gets a call. D-backs announcers are unbearable.
2008-07-18 22:38:08
593.   Bob Timmermann
C'mon Angel. Time for that first RBI! You're bound to get one sometime.

Isn't he?

2008-07-18 22:39:06
594.   underdog
Okay, I've now finished reading Gravity's Rainbow and am watching all of Gone With the Wind. Will this game end by the end of that? It is to wonder, it is to wonder.

This faux injury break doesn't help, either.

2008-07-18 22:39:12
595.   Suffering Bruin
590 LOL, ROFL, just woke the wife and kid.

Seriously, they're awake. She's not happy, he's wondering what's so funny. I'm getting the jersey out.

2008-07-18 22:39:37
596.   Gagne55
585 I don't believe that anything I say has any effect on the game.
2008-07-18 22:39:43
597.   LeeLacy
Nice at-bat from the The Artist Formerly Known as The Solution.
2008-07-18 22:40:37
598.   Linkmeister
Nomar has two home runs?

Be still, my beating heart.

2008-07-18 22:40:49
599.   LoneStar7
2008-07-18 22:41:38
600.   underdog
Berroa has a way to go before he dips down below the infamous Sweeney Line™ though.
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2008-07-18 22:41:51
601.   sporky
He got on base!
2008-07-18 22:42:13
602.   Alex41592
Atta boy Berroa. Way to use that elbow.
2008-07-18 22:42:44
603.   underdog
Way to take one for the team, Snipes!
2008-07-18 22:43:50
604.   Suffering Bruin
Keep that ball up, Robertson... one more like that last one, please...
2008-07-18 22:44:08
605.   bleedsblue
I'm liking this offense! Good game.
2008-07-18 22:44:34
606.   Alex41592
The Loney shot is on Gameday in all it's emo Sutton glory.

"That's crushed. Deep right field. 8-7 Dodgers lead."

2008-07-18 22:45:09
607.   bablue
Yeah I started watching right before the Loney DP in the first ining. I turned the TV on and thought, "awesome". 20 seconds later I was screaing rule 1 violations for the next 20 minutes.
2008-07-18 22:45:16
608.   Bluebleeder87
4 home runs by the blue crew, impressive!
2008-07-18 22:45:33
609.   68elcamino427
Bison givin it a ride.
2008-07-18 22:45:47
610.   Bob Timmermann
Aren't they going to be teeing off soon at the British Open?

When will I get a chance to watch the season premiere of "Monk"?

Will I be awake for the cable guy tomorrow morning?

2008-07-18 22:45:54
611.   fanerman
Dang. Oh well.
2008-07-18 22:46:21
612.   bleedsblue
That CF wall looks really high, have there been hits over it?
2008-07-18 22:46:56
613.   underdog
Ooooh, almost, Bison, almost.

606 - You showed too much emotion there, though. Even flatter. "that's crushed... deep right {sob} field. 8-7 dodgers... lead {bite knuckles to hold back tears}"

2008-07-18 22:47:05
614.   Suffering Bruin
Both teams getting all the runs they can tonight; odd are tomorrow runs will be few and far between.
2008-07-18 22:47:09
615.   Alex41592
610 - First tee off is in 45 minutes.
2008-07-18 22:47:22
616.   sporky
606 That was great.
2008-07-18 22:47:50
617.   Suffering Bruin
Okay, Mr. Broxton! Got get 'em!!
2008-07-18 22:47:59
618.   Bob Timmermann
The first guy at the British Open tees off at 11:30 pm PT. The leaders tee of at 6:40 am PT.

Do Norman and Choi get to pay the sunset rate?

2008-07-18 22:48:02
619.   bleedsblue
Let's see if Joe brings in Broxton now.
2008-07-18 22:48:11
620.   Alex41592
612 - Quite a few. I remember Martin absolutely destroying a Randy Johnson 0-2 fastball way up there in center field last season.
2008-07-18 22:48:55
621.   underdog
Crud! And I just remembered I have a soccer game at 9am tomorrow (not Sunday for a change). C'mon game, end!

Let's go Ox!

I almost finished Gone With the Wind just during that inning.

Don't make me pull out Fellowship of the Ring, game, don't.

2008-07-18 22:49:28
622.   Bluebleeder87

that's the main reason I don't like 'em as a broadcaster...

I cought a bit of the Houston vs cubbies game earlier today & the Houston broadcaster & pretty darn good...

2008-07-18 22:50:37
623.   underdog
I agree, I like the Astros broadcasters. They're knowledgable, not that homer-ish, very easy to listen to.

Okay, Bull, c'mon! Put this game - and all of us - to bed.

2008-07-18 22:50:44
624.   Alex41592
Tracy vs. Broxton: 1 for 5
2008-07-18 22:51:39
625.   underdog
101 mph on that last one?!

But more importantly, a ball.

2008-07-18 22:51:43
626.   Alex41592
Nice catch Pee Wee!
2008-07-18 22:51:49
627.   Bluebleeder87
oh come on blue you called that a ball earlier, ugh!

get a strike zone & stick with it man...

2008-07-18 22:51:50
628.   Sam PHL
I think the AZ gun is fast. Showed Brox at 102 on the last pitch.
2008-07-18 22:52:06
629.   fanerman
Nice catch.
2008-07-18 22:52:16
630.   Suffering Bruin
Delwyn Young gets a good jump on the ball.

This is our night!

2008-07-18 22:52:18
631.   bleedsblue
Nice catch by DY
2008-07-18 22:52:20
632.   underdog
Whew. Nice grab Pee Wee.
2008-07-18 22:52:29
633.   68elcamino427
Young shows off his glove in left.
2008-07-18 22:52:57
634.   underdog
His change-up is 95. Heh.
2008-07-18 22:53:04
635.   Gagne55
606 So Loney's homerun had a negative effect on Sutton's affect.
2008-07-18 22:54:06
636.   Suffering Bruin
635 Nice.
2008-07-18 22:54:11
637.   Alex41592
Beautiful pitch Broxton!
2008-07-18 22:54:28
638.   Gagne55
1 out to go
2008-07-18 22:54:31
639.   fanerman
2008-07-18 22:54:45
640.   Suffering Bruin
400 pitches tonight? Sheesh me!
2008-07-18 22:54:53
641.   underdog

635 - Good, but say it with more affectation next time.

2008-07-18 22:54:55
642.   bleedsblue
Anyone notice in the AS game how those power hitters made what seemed like a lot of defensive errors--and not just Uggla?
2008-07-18 22:55:17
643.   Gagne55
636 thnx
2008-07-18 22:55:33
644.   Icaros
Broxton doesn't have what it takes to be a closer.
2008-07-18 22:55:35
645.   Bluebleeder87
high intensity games like this & DRIVING are not a good mix.

I actually liked how Steiner called the DeWitt play.

2008-07-18 22:55:44
646.   whodat807
The demoralized silence of these homer announcers is so sweet.
2008-07-18 22:55:48
647.   68elcamino427
Broxton the Closer!
2008-07-18 22:55:48
648.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-18 22:55:53
649.   GMac In The 909
2008-07-18 22:55:57
650.   Suffering Bruin
Yeah, baby!
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2008-07-18 22:56:12
651.   Gagne55
Game over! Jinx? What jinx?
2008-07-18 22:56:13
652.   Bluebleeder87
we are all tide up.
2008-07-18 22:56:19
653.   bleedsblue
Yess!! Back in 1st (tied that is)!
2008-07-18 22:56:25
654.   Linkmeister
Woohoo! Come from behind win on the road!
2008-07-18 22:56:26
655.   underdog
97! Siddown!
2008-07-18 22:56:39
656.   fanerman
I can sleep in peace!
2008-07-18 22:56:57
657.   whodat807
I think this Broxton kid might have a future as a closer.

Maybe the best win of the season thus far?

2008-07-18 22:57:03
658.   bablue
2008-07-18 22:57:04
659.   kinbote
2008-07-18 22:57:08
660.   sporky
2008-07-18 22:57:10
661.   Gagne55
Dodgers ftw!
2008-07-18 22:57:18
662.   Alex41592
YES! Gigantic victory. The difference between 2 games back and tied for first place. 4 HR's and DeWitt's game saving play. It was just our night. Now we need two more of them.
2008-07-18 22:57:28
663.   underdog
The Dbacks announcers act like the unavailability (or dis-use) of Chad Qualls was the difference in this game.

Well... anyway. I shall sleep better tonight. Cheers all!

2008-07-18 22:57:30
664.   LeeLacy
Nice win. Very, very nice win.

Could be back in a tie after tomorrow's game.

2008-07-18 22:58:16
665.   Gagne55
And tomorrow will be the battle for sole supremecy in the NL West (for a day)
2008-07-18 22:58:29
666.   Xeifrank
w/15 runs, it looks like the three game over/under of 26.2 is in jeopardy.
vr, Xei
2008-07-18 22:58:38
667.   Bob Timmermann
I don't think so.
2008-07-18 22:58:50
668.   Suffering Bruin
I just saw the DeWitt replay. Andy? I love ya. Enjoy the bench.
2008-07-18 22:58:52
669.   underdog
I can't imagine an 8-7 score for any of the other games this series, given the matchups, but then, I didn't imagine it for tonight either. Hope Chad can at least eat some innings tomorrow.
2008-07-18 22:59:00
670.   Bluebleeder87
man, I just saw the repeat of Loney's laser. right on!
2008-07-18 22:59:02
671.   bleedsblue
Dodger's firing on all cylinders tonight! Awesome!
2008-07-18 22:59:07
672.   LeeLacy
664 I mean, we could be all alone in first place after tomorrow.

Man, I need to get some sleep ....

2008-07-18 22:59:12
673.   jtrichey
Oh, and Cory Wade's 1st major league win. Big congrats to another Indianpolis guy!
2008-07-18 22:59:22
674.   Icaros

Apologize to the wife and child for me.

2008-07-18 22:59:24
675.   underdog
664 - Only if the game is called off.
2008-07-18 22:59:54
676.   underdog
And... scene!

Night (for reals).

2008-07-18 23:00:40
677.   Andrew Shimmin
If my math is right (always a big if), DeWitt's OPS is at .697. So, I lose my little bet if DeWitt gets a hit in his next PA; if he walks or makes an out, I'm good. I'm rooting for a walk, even though they're playing my D'backs. Because I'm that good a guy.
2008-07-18 23:00:44
678.   Bluebleeder87

we are all tangled up in blue & red evidently...

2008-07-18 23:02:30
679.   Suffering Bruin
674 Not your fault. They both laughed after I told them. I just thought it was too funny, especially after I seriously considered having the jersey altered!

Okay, all... good night and until tomorrow.

2008-07-18 23:03:51
680.   Bluebleeder87
Home runs from Garciaparra, Kemp & Loney not a bad day for the Dodgers.
2008-07-18 23:04:26
681.   Icaros

As long as he plays SS, your jersey is sweet!

2008-07-18 23:05:19
682.   Gagne55
677 And the bet goes down to the final plate appearence...
2008-07-18 23:07:26
683.   Bob Hendley
Great game!
2008-07-18 23:07:50
684.   alex 7
DBacks tonight needed a few more of those bad swings Matt Williams talked about during the pre-game.

(addressing youngsters on the yay of hitting tee vs boo of live practice) "because in live batting practice, you can get away with hitting fly balls, even if they go over the fence, that's the WRONG swing...(blah blah about line drive stroke being worked on using a tee)."

2008-07-18 23:10:05
685.   Bob Hendley
668 - I just saw the DeWitt replay. Andy? I love ya. Enjoy the bench.

We might all enjoy it, if he were at 2nd base, no?

2008-07-18 23:45:01
686.   gibsonhobbs88
Good comeback for the boys in blue after falling behind 6-3. Kuroda just didn't have it tonight, kind of fell apart after that ball in the first got past Kent.

BTW, When are the Dodgers going to officially put Saito on the DL? He's on my fantasy team and he has to be officially be designated on the DL before I can make a move. Essentially I have a dead spot in my bullpen-one man short until they make the move so I can pick up a free agent. I thought it was supposed to be Friday. Friday has come and gone and I didn't see the DL transaction occur.

2008-07-18 23:55:00
687.   El Lay Dave
686 Jason Johnson pitched, therefore he is on the roster. The spot he took was Saito's. Saito must have been moved to the DL.
2008-07-18 23:55:03
688.   gibsonhobbs88
686 - Never mind - just checked the Yahoo transactions saw they did it at 9:06 eastern time. It should show up tomorrow in my league.
2008-07-18 23:58:02
689.   ToyCannon
If I was Nomar I'd be sending a big raspberry this way.
2008-07-19 00:01:48
690.   ToyCannon
Kind of fun to read the comments after the game and see about 50-75 questions as to why DeWitt is starting, and then have him save the game in the 9th.
With the real strange part being that 99 out of 100 scouts probably would have said that LaRoche was the better defensive 3rd baseman entering this season. So did Dewitt do some serious glove work this winter or did the scouts just fail to notice that he was getting better because they had already made pre-judgements from early trials at 3rd base. Or did the move to 2nd in some freaky way help his defense at 3rd base when he was moved back?
2008-07-19 00:14:46
691.   Eric Enders
690 DeWitt's play was awesome and I'm grateful for it. The guy has my total respect. However:

1) One play doesn't change the fact that he shouldn't be starting.
2) Why are you assuming that he's now better defensively than LaRoche? We have no way of knowing, because we haven't seen LaRoche play. He looked fantastic last September.

2008-07-19 00:17:00
692.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Dodgers bullpen: 9 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 8 K.
2008-07-19 00:17:23
693.   Eric Enders
689 There is no player DTers are rooting harder for than Nomar right now. Granted, it's a Machiavellian sort of rooting, we're doing it because we don't want to lose Kemp and LaRoche, but still, everyone has been pulling for Nomar to do well and stay healthy. He has no reason to send raspberries this way.
2008-07-19 00:22:39
694.   ToyCannon
Sure he does, last season you buried him just as deep as you are burying Sweeney right now.

I could point to post after post from poster after poster that said he was done.

Based on what I've seen of DeWitt, LaRoche would have to be Scott Rolen at this point to be better then him defensively.

2008-07-19 00:28:30
695.   Eric Enders
694 Well, sure, he is done, basically. That doesn't mean we're not pulling for him.

Recognition of something happening is not the same as rooting for it to happen.

2008-07-19 00:41:28
696.   Louis in SF
Any possibility that Jones takes another trip to the DL because he came back too soon? After watching him in SF and on TV since he came back. I think at best he has about 5 fly ball outs, and I believe all of his hits have been on the ground.

I hope down the stretch that on days Kent rests LaRoche plays second and also gets a chance to play against Lefties. It would make so much sense.

2008-07-19 00:42:55
697.   Bob Hendley
689 - At least recently, I think most of the sentiment around here was happy to have Nomar back to play short in place of Bermaza, though there were concerns about his brittleness and fielding. But I will gladly accept a raspberry for the three rbis.
2008-07-19 01:24:14
698.   The Dude Abides
We can get by with Nomar as a stopgap shortstop, but he needs to be handled the same way Jim Tracy handled Dreifort in 04 prior to the trade that ruined his and Gagne's career. I'd bench Nomar every time Lowe pitches, plus the odd game here and there, like day games after night games. We don't need any banjo-hitting SS from Pitt.
2008-07-19 02:01:31
699.   larry slimfast
698 How, exactly, did a trade ruin Dreifort and Gagne's career?
2008-07-19 02:10:27
700.   The Dude Abides
It's one of my pet peeves. You sure you want to go there?
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2008-07-19 02:40:17
701.   Benjamin Miracord
700 I do! I want to go there! (Leave no stone unturned, as it were.)

You're the man for your time and place. You fit right in there. I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that.

2008-07-19 02:41:17
702.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Jon went there a long time ago - and found nothing.
2008-07-19 03:53:14
703.   Dodger Jack
691. Of course, DeWitt should be starting. How many clues do you need? Is it just possible that Torre knows more than some of the posters here and that DeWitt is just better than LaRoche? Look for the latter to be traded in the next ten days.
2008-07-19 04:14:44
704.   bhsportsguy
677 Is the bet that he has to be above .700, because he will be at exactly .700 if he walks, he'll be just a few points higher if he gets a hit.
2008-07-19 04:35:58
705.   Eric Enders
"Desolation Row" is playing right now.

I'm adding it to the top 10.

That is all.

2008-07-19 04:44:41
706.   D4P
Up early to watch the British Open, eh...?
2008-07-19 05:12:41
707.   old dodger fan
Great game last night. I went to bed in the 2nd inning (EC Syndrome) and was delighted to awaken to find we are tied for 1st. 2HR's for Nomar. Please stay healthy Nomar. Now if we could figure out a way for LaRoche and DeWitt to share 2B and 3B.
2008-07-19 06:17:35
708.   Indiana Jon
I'm always amazed by the posters that think Dewitt is better than Laroche. It's really not even close. He's the worst hitter on our team (starters). Once Andy gets to play, for us or another team, many on the Dodger's staff will be sorry that he sat for so long.
2008-07-19 06:19:46
709.   regfairfield
703 So left fielder can't hit and plays great defense - cause of all of our problems.

Third baseman does the same thing - of course he should be starting.

2008-07-19 06:25:05
710.   fanerman
708 709 Agreed and good morning.
2008-07-19 06:27:02
711.   D4P
My impression is that Andy has lost his power (presumably because of injuries). I don't claim to know whether his power will return, but I'd be surprised if Management patiently awaits its return.
2008-07-19 06:35:53
712.   regfairfield
Sign that it's going to be a bad day: you have 300 mile drive to Phoenix in 20 minutes and three hours ago you woke up in a random culdesac in Westminster.
2008-07-19 06:42:24
713.   fanerman
712 Sounds like a wild night...
2008-07-19 06:52:42
714.   D4P
Bob will be sad to know that Greg Norman started out with a bogey, while David Duval started out triple bogey, bogey, bogey.
2008-07-19 07:04:04
715.   Andrew Shimmin
His SLG right now is .369. A walk wouldn't change that. His OBP with a walk (or HBP) would be .330. Right? 99 times on base divided by 300 PAs? I think he'd be at .699 with a walk or HBP, .701 with a single, or whatever else for better than a single. Technically, the bet is that he'd be "under .700 after 300 PAs." So, as long as he slips under .700, some time after his next PA, I could play some lawyerball with that.

I haven't decided whether to go that route, or not. Just as technically, if he slips back over .700 at some point, I could be said to have lost, an interpretation I'd fight all the way to the supreme court.

2008-07-19 07:08:56
716.   D4P
Technically, the bet is that he'd be "under .700 after 300 PAs."

What happens if you lose the bet? I gather it has something to do with pants...

2008-07-19 07:13:22
717.   Andrew Shimmin
716- I'd be obligated (though not by any controlling legal authority) to attend the DT picnic wearing corduroy pants.
2008-07-19 07:19:06
718.   D4P
wearing corduroy pants

As opposed to what...?

2008-07-19 07:27:12
719.   tjdub
2008-07-19 07:35:14
720.   Dodger Jack
709. We never discussed a left fielder. I reject your premise that DeWitt is not a good hitter. You prefer the sub-Mendoza guy at third?
2008-07-19 07:37:05
721.   fanerman
720 DeWitt isn't a good hitter and he's shown it. LaRoche might be a good hitter and he hasn't had enough PA's to show it.
2008-07-19 07:37:28
722.   Jon Weisman
2008-07-19 07:39:09
723.   Bluebleeder87

I couldn't have said it better my self Eric.

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