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A Midsummer's Dose of Doggett and Lacy
2008-07-15 08:16
by Jon Weisman

Bob Timmermann and The Griddle have a Dodger recap from 1972.

Comments (682)
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2008-07-15 08:28:07
1.   cargill06
i think i got LAT'd from the last thread...

not sure if it's been discussed but did anyone hear what chase utley thought of his introduction yesterday?

2008-07-15 08:29:46
2.   Bluebleeder87
Dogget retired in '87?
2008-07-15 08:29:49
3.   Bluebleeder87
Dogget retired in '87?
2008-07-15 08:31:22
4.   Bluebleeder87
please feel free to delete one of them Jon.
2008-07-15 08:50:02
5.   regfairfield
Seeing Milton Bradley snap a picture with Josh Hamilton mid at bat made me miss him that much more.
2008-07-15 08:55:42
6.   unlazy4sports
5. Yea, he had his anger issues, but he really seem like he's a likeable guy in the clubhouse if you're not Jeff Kent.
2008-07-15 09:00:37
7.   regfairfield
He just looks like he's having fun out there, which is way more entertaining than guys being professional. Aren't sports supposed to be fun?
2008-07-15 09:00:53
8.   underdog
My issue would Milton Bradley had a lot less to do with his anger problem and more to do with his being pretty consistently injured. I'm pretty sure the A's had a problem with that too. When he's healthy, and not imploding or exploding, he's great.
2008-07-15 09:01:10
9.   cargill06
{1} if u missed it

may not be safe for work.

2008-07-15 09:06:54
10.   regfairfield
I'm actually really curious about the fans perceptions of guys like Bradley or Jose Reyes versus the media's. When Lastings Milledge high fived the fans after that home run the media reacted like Randy Moss pretend to moon them. Was there that many people out there that didn't think that was awesome?
2008-07-15 09:07:49
11.   LoneStar7
9 ah thank you for mentioning, i thought i was the only one.

I was hoping a bruin would be a bit more polished than that

2008-07-15 09:10:07
12.   regfairfield
9 That's what we're up in arms about? Oh no, a grown man told a joke that used a bad word?
2008-07-15 09:11:06
13.   cargill06
11 he said it with a true so cal accent too
2008-07-15 09:12:57
14.   cargill06
12 i don't think anyone is up in arms (at least i'm not). i don't think it was a joke either. i just thought it was funny because he sounded like to prototypical stoned surfer when he said it. also, the blunder on espn's part just something you don't see every day.
2008-07-15 09:17:11
15.   MC Safety
8 White guys can throw a bag of balls on the field without being called psychotic, Black guys can't.

I'll forever hate Jeff Kent.

2008-07-15 09:17:40
16.   regfairfield
14 There's some "Utley is unprofessional" crap out there right now. Utley said it was a joke afterwords, and I really don't think you can say the words "Boo? ____ you" seriously.

Then again I never thought I'd hear the phrase "it's a bad night to be an atheist" outside of the rapture.

2008-07-15 09:23:46
17.   cargill06
15 i believe your wrong. he's shown psychotic behavior before that's why he is considered psychotic.

just like kent has shown "grumpy guy" behavior before that's why a lot of people consider him "grumpy guy".

see 15 I'll forever hate Jeff Kent.

2008-07-15 09:24:35
18.   MC Safety
Good for Utley. Gave those East Coasters a taste of their own medicine!
2008-07-15 09:26:09
19.   regfairfield
And if no one was up in arms, Utley wouldn't have had to make a statement about it.
2008-07-15 09:27:35
20.   D4P
Yankee fans were probably just upset that Robinson Cano!!! didn't get the All-Star nod at 2B.
2008-07-15 09:29:31
21.   jasonungar07
Milton is one of my favorite players to watch when healthy. I thought he was the 2004 Dodger MVP (and said so here at the time) his clutch play and some of his catches were awesome and inspirational even if Beltre got all the great #s(Not knocking Belly here) but he wore out his welcome with the big boss. Simple as that. I love that he is an All Star and having a great season. I hope he can keep staying (for the most part) out of trouble and on the field.
2008-07-15 09:30:01
22.   delias man
Rosenthal about to be on Rome show after commercial. Hope he does not talk about the Dodgers.
2008-07-15 09:31:51
23.   jasonungar07
I should add to 21 ....Big Boss is not a good Big Boss IMO. That's a whole other argument. Blame Kent, but management caved and listened. I would blame them more (if anything)
2008-07-15 09:32:52
24.   delias man
I have also never seen reports of police going to Kent's residence numerous times on disturbance calls, or seen Kent rush a broadcast booth to get after someone. Bradley has issues, and may not be the best type of player around this mostly young team.
2008-07-15 09:36:36
25.   MC Safety
17 Whatever you say, man. I'll never agree with anything you say regarding this issue, so I'm dropping it for the sake of Rule 8. Just do me a favor and go check out the league leaders in the AL.
2008-07-15 09:37:00
26.   regfairfield
24 year olds are so impressionable. If the cops come to Bradley's place on a disturbance call, then they might think that's the cool thing to do.
2008-07-15 09:38:48
27.   D4P
Luckily, the Dodgers haven't had a bunch of wife-beaters, adulterers, and jerks of various kinds around to sully our kids.
2008-07-15 09:40:44
28.   fanerman
Milton Bradley is a great player and seems to be a generally likeable guy, but it's not like he figured things out the second he left LA. I hope he's alright now and he stays healthy, but I really can't regret trading him.
2008-07-15 09:40:46
29.   cargill06
25 what does his stats have to do with the racism involved of him being considered psychotic like you said?

personally, i think milton is a good guy and treats most of the people he comes in contact with with great respect and compassion. he seems like a great teammate and maybe he's matured and learned from his past experience's. but the fact is when you have as many past issue's as milton has had and get dumped by clev. and LA becuase they could no longed afford to have you in the clubhouse you can't blame people for putting a label on him, and i'm sure that has the most to do with it, not the color of his skin.

2008-07-15 09:41:25
30.   Eric Stephen
And designated drivers.
2008-07-15 09:42:46
31.   MC Safety
24 Numerous times? I think you're reaching a bit. What about Jose Reyes? I haven't heard anything about him being traded out of town for his stunt? Why's that?
2008-07-15 09:43:23
32.   ToyCannon
I'll just say for the 100th time that what Milton is doing is awesome but it also is as a DH because he can't stay healthy enough to play the outfield at this point in his career.
If and when the guy can play 10 games in a row in the outfield and stay healthy then point the numbers out to me and I'll be remiss that he is not on the team.

I loved Milton in 2004 but that is just silly talk when you had the year Beltre had and the meltdown Milton had when we needed him every game.

2008-07-15 09:43:37
33.   D4P
I knew I was forgetting something.
2008-07-15 09:45:14
34.   old dodger fan
Yesterday I saw a replay of the pine tar incident. I had forgotten how totally out of control Brett was. I immediatly thought of Bradley. What would the reaction have been if Bradley responded to an unfavorable call the same way?
2008-07-15 09:45:46
35.   schoffle

Perhaps you are unaware that it was Milton who was calling the police to come to his residence.

When Bradley was traded I hated the trade and and hated the reason (well the assumed reason) for the trade even more. That said getting Ethier for him looks pretty good considering what the A's got out of him.

2008-07-15 09:46:40
36.   D4P
When a Ballplayer like Brett goes berserk like that, it just shows his dedication and desire to win.
2008-07-15 09:46:53
37.   delias man
31 There were 3 calls in a month reported at that time. I still would love to know why Oakland dumped him. I never read anything on that. There is something up with him that we do not know fully.
2008-07-15 09:48:47
38.   MC Safety
27 Yeah, exactly. Guys like Raffy Furcal (multiple DUI's, worse than anything Bradley has ever done), Derek Lowe (left his family behind for a Dodger reporter), and Andruw Jones (Gold Club scandal). Ned's nothing but a phony.
2008-07-15 09:49:38
39.   regfairfield
37 I just assumed that they didn't want to DFA someone then have Bradley get hurt a week later.
2008-07-15 09:50:05
40.   delias man
I see nothing wrong with what Jones did. Good clean fun.
2008-07-15 09:54:40
41.   MC Safety
Here's Dak from FJM: Why doesn't wanting to play so bad that he's willing to throw a fit about it garner him "gamer" status? Why are guys like Milton Bradley, Carl Everett, and Jose Reyes all considered "hotheads" or whatever while jerks like Paul O'Neill are applauded for their fiery style?
2008-07-15 09:55:38
42.   ryu
38 Some of that has to do with the difference between exploding on the field in front of 50,000 people and on live TV, and screwing up off the field.
2008-07-15 09:59:55
43.   Bob Timmermann
Lastings Milledge was criticized by his Mets teammates, especially Billy Wagner, more so than the press.

If the Mets wish to keep criticizing Jose Reyes, I'm sure 28 other teams (the Yankees can't take him unless they made him play second or DH because Derek Jeter will wish Brian Cashman into the cornfield), will take Reyes off the Mets hands.

2008-07-15 10:00:18
44.   cargill06
41 i've always considered paul o'neill a jerk, and same as jeff kent. there are some people that don't, just like there are some people who love milton and some who don't.
2008-07-15 10:01:31
45.   KingKopitar
Is Carl Everett considered a hothead? I thought he was just crazy and didn't believe in dinosaurs because he'd never seen one in person.
2008-07-15 10:05:54
46.   MC Safety
43 That story seemed to disappear pretty fast.
2008-07-15 10:06:23
47.   CodyS
Vis a vis letting Drew go, indeed Drew opted out. And at that point, the Dodgers didn't choose to make him a credible offer. that's the choice that could be regretted.
2008-07-15 10:09:39
48.   Physics DR
Duke Snider Family Web site

ALSO lots of pictures of the Duke in the 50's when the Dodgers could hit home runs.

Maybe John can add to the right column list.

2008-07-15 10:11:49
49.   Bob Timmermann
Carl Everett did get kicked out arguing with an umpire after he redrew the batter's box inside line and told him to back off. That was a classic.

Everett and his wife also had their kids briefly taken away by the state of New York for some reason.

But overall, I think Everett can best be described as "peculiar." And I'm grateful that he broke up Mike Mussina's perfect game. Because I can't stand Mussina.

You know, one of those know-it-all Stanford guys, like Jed Lowrie and Jody Gerut.

2008-07-15 10:12:24
50.   regfairfield
Do you really want to pay JD Drew at least 15 million a year until he's 35?
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2008-07-15 10:14:31
51.   blue22
47 - Not giving Drew $14M per year for his ages 31-35 seasons isn't a regrettable choice. It's the knee-jerk reaction of giving Pierre a 5-year deal that is regrettable.
2008-07-15 10:15:43
52.   Eric Stephen
I always kind of liked Mussina, although I was amused a few years back at Todd Wright, while at ESPN Radio, for spending an entire segment pleading over the air for Mussina to pitch the damn ball (he always took too long, especially from the stretch).
2008-07-15 10:20:42
53.   blue22
50 - Having him signed through next year for $11M would be pretty sweet though. Ah, well.

I can't believe his 5-year deal would've been up next year already.

2008-07-15 10:20:46
54.   Bob Timmermann
Disliking Mussina has always been a minority opinion. It's not unlike liking Billy Packer.
2008-07-15 10:22:26
55.   regfairfield
53 I'm totally happy we got JD Drew for 2/22, but a Pierre and Jonesless team would be pretty sweet.
2008-07-15 10:24:07
56.   bhsportsguy
Milton Bradly has played 170 games in the outfield from 2006 to the present, Andre Ethier has played 360.
2008-07-15 10:25:56
57.   bhsportsguy
One thing and maybe 55 would agree with me, had Ned Colletti renegotiated with Drew, and gave him the raise and more years and (run on sentence) Drew had the year he had last year, well, you may have had a new GM at the end of last year.
2008-07-15 10:29:20
58.   Physics DR
For the librarians out there.

My mother was head librarian for the science department at the University of Chicago for 30 years. She recently died at 85.

Over the years she sent me at least 300 "Ya mommam" librarian jokes. Most which can not be published here.

However her favorite librarian joke and a very simple and true one:

How many librarians does it take to change a lightbulb?

I don't know but I can look it up!

2008-07-15 10:30:31
59.   Terry A
So it's a win/win/win proposition. :)
2008-07-15 10:31:21
60.   blue22
57 - For putting up a 105 OPS+ in CF? Run an outfield of Ethier, Drew, and Kemp/Gonzo out there and I think LA does a bit better than 4th place.
2008-07-15 10:33:33
61.   Bob Timmermann
The child of a librarian! You must have been the envy of all the kids on the block.

Most jokes librarians have run afoul of Rule 1.

2008-07-15 10:33:37
62.   JoeyP

The goal is to make the best team possible, not the most efficient team--payroll wise.

The Dodgers were willing to pay Gonzo/Pierre collectively 16 mils in 2007.

So yes, I'd be willing to pay Drew that.

2008-07-15 10:34:43
63.   El Lay Dave
38 The Dodgers also recently re-signed Eric Cyr into the minors, the IE 66ers.
2008-07-15 10:35:02
64.   Eric Stephen
J.D. Drew played RF last year (and this year).
2008-07-15 10:36:12
65.   Eric Stephen
60 ,64
Nevermind, you were saying he would play center with the Dodgers. I'm dense.
2008-07-15 10:36:34
66.   blue22
64 - Right, but I assume he would've played CF in LA, flanked by Ethier and Kemp/Gonzo platoon. That would've made his 105 OPS+ last year even more valuable too.
2008-07-15 10:36:41
67.   JoeyP
57--> Why?

Drew didnt go on the DL with the Red Sox last year, and was a much better player than Pierre was even having a down year by JD Drew standards.

How would having Drew on the team in 2007, and neither of Gonzo/Pierre--> made the team worse?

You suggested Ned would have been fired after 2007 had he signed JD Drew?

Are you serious?

He signed Juan Pierre, and the team finished in 4th place. And he still wasnt fired.

How would have signing Drew, led to his firing? Did not signing JD Drew keep the Dodgers from finishing in last place or something?

2008-07-15 10:36:41
68.   regfairfield
56 VORP since 2006

Bradley: 84.4
Ethier: 47.4

Ethier's defensive value this year and the fact that Bradley would have been a free agent in 2007 keep this from being considered a disaster trade. The Ethier trade is considered one of Ned's best move but at this point, calling it a draw would be really generous.

A couple fun facts I learned from this.

Luis Gonzalez actually out VORPed Ethier last year.

Ethier is fourth amongst active hitters on the Dodgers with a 14.5 VORP. Jeff Kent is 5th with a 3.6

2008-07-15 10:37:52
69.   bhsportsguy
60 The local media was not exactly enamored with him before, his stats while somewhat comparable were still down from they year before.

I am not saying that factually it makes sense, its perception. And perception would be that Scott Boras got away with something.

But then if the Dodgers have Drew, then they don't sign Boras' client, Andruw Jones so there.

2008-07-15 10:38:41
70.   regfairfield
62 Of course, I try to drive that point home more than anyone, but Drew has a very good chance of falling off a cliff. Remember the guy failed his physical last year. Despite the fact that he hasn't had any debilitating injuries since he was a Cardinal, he's still not healthy.
2008-07-15 10:38:59
71.   JoeyP
The local media was not exactly enamored with him before, his stats while somewhat comparable were still down from they year before.

Since when does the local media run the Dodgers?

No wait, dont answer that ;)

2008-07-15 10:39:14
72.   herchyzer
15 . I don't think I recall too many white guys or baseball players of any ethnicity make quite the spectacle of themselves the way MB has done periodically. Most of the things that MB has gotten angry about I've understood his frustration, but not the explosion he's had over it.

That said, I don't think that most of MB's public relations problems, although severe, are terribly transcendent, ie, as to make him an especially bad guy. I've heard something about him abusing his wife. THAT, if true, makes him a bad guy, but not throwing bags of baseballs, or even a plastic bottle at the feet of fans who had thrown it at him. Mentioning his anger problem in the same breath as that Hamilton fellow's crack-pipe problem does not quite make sense to me. Well, except for the wife-abuse, and of that I've only heard a couple of mentions, not enough to know any details or whether there's any truth, so I can't judge that.

2008-07-15 10:40:16
73.   El Lay Dave
56 But 2007 - present, MB has played 77 games in the OF, Ethier 145.
2008-07-15 10:40:32
74.   bhsportsguy
68 Does that discount his VORP as a DH?

I still ask, who plays those games that Bradley misses due to injuries?

Whether or not it has statiscal value, there is real value in basically being available to play everyday. Bradley has never shown that he can do that.

2008-07-15 10:42:41
75.   regfairfield
This is frightening. Bradley last 365 days: .313/.429/.608. You could make the case that over the last year Bradley has been one of the four or five best players in baseball.
2008-07-15 10:44:35
76.   regfairfield
74 Cody Ross :)

Why is there value in playing every day and producing lesser numbers if you have a half decent replacement? Unless the replacement is sub replacement level, he'd be contributing even more to Bradley's edge, even if he's not, he'd have to be really bad to erase a 40 run edge.

2008-07-15 10:45:34
77.   regfairfield
74 It does count his DH VORP.
2008-07-15 10:47:33
78.   CodyS
I'm just talking about this year. The outfield could easily be Drew, Bradley, Kemp. And we would be considered one of the best teams in baseball. The fact that we would have done worse last year or the year before is pretty irrelevant as we didn't exactly win any playoff games. And going forward for the next three years, it's also pretty likely that Drew, Bradley, Kemp is a lot nicer than Pierre, Jones, Kemp, Ethier.

Druw 18
Drew 15
Pierre 9
Bradley 5
Kemp/Ethier .5

So money wise, it would have been better as well (21 vs 28).

It of course wasn't clear that things would work out this way (Bradley & Drew both in the top 5 hitters in baseball). I'm not suggesting that given the information available at the time, the decisions were so terrible. I'm just saying in retrospect, "arggh."

2008-07-15 10:48:17
79.   Physics DR

Librarians are gods!! I had No problems being the envy of others.

Of course, growing thing up at MIT, U of C, and other places where librarian are gods helped.

A graduate student who pissed off a librarian in the 50's and 60's and 70's had no chance of getting an advanced degree.
My mother got more gifts, cakes, and birthday cards then anybody else.

She always had cookies, in the libray, for everybody and I know she did not make them. She hated baking.

2008-07-15 10:50:01
80.   MC Safety
72 see 35
2008-07-15 10:50:01
81.   herchyzer
42 . Exactly. Several of his incidents have been SO public. Hilarious, too, except when he was affecting my team.
2008-07-15 10:50:37
82.   sporky
Again, with the difficult to deal with thing.

>>Bill (GA): Do you see the Dodgers as suitors for Teixeira? If so, what do you think the Braves can get back?

SportsNation Buster Olney: (1:42 PM ET ) Bill: Other teams find the Dodgers incredibly difficult to trade with; GMs with other teams say they're never really sure who's available and who's not available. But if they agree to put Matt Kemp in the trade and the Braves actually put Teixeira out there, I'm sure Atlanta would listen -- folks with other teams love Kemp's talent.<<

2008-07-15 10:50:59
83.   old dodger fan
From Diamond Leung Class AAA shortstop Chin-lung Hu could be activated from the disabled list by the end of the week after missing more than a month with blurred vision in his right eye
2008-07-15 10:52:46
84.   sporky
I'd like to meet the "some in the organization."

>>Paul (Albany, OR): As a Dodger fan I would HATE it if they let go of Kemp. As a baseball guy, in your opinion, why would they include Kemp in any deal? Thanks.

SportsNation Buster Olney: (1:51 PM ET ) Paul: There are some in the organization who are less than thrilled with his evolution as a hitter.<<

2008-07-15 10:54:24
85.   Kevin Lewis

For me this is spot on. Yes, I wish Ned had made an offer to Drew, but I was okay with him leaving. It is the choice Ned made after Drew left that is regrettable. Speaking Lofton still not playing?

2008-07-15 10:57:44
86.   Eric Stephen
I assume that means activated in AAA.
2008-07-15 10:59:23
87.   El Lay Dave
86 At this point, why would you dare assume anything about a Dodger activation prediction?
2008-07-15 11:00:18
88.   Eric Stephen
2008-07-15 11:01:27
89.   blue22
78 - Wouldn't Milton Bradley have been a free agent by now? So there's no guarantee he'd still be in LA. I'm not sure a NL team locks up a guy long term who's basically a full-time DH at age 30.
2008-07-15 11:17:06
90.   ToyCannon
I wonder how thrilled Dodger management is with the offensive evolution of Nomar, A Jones, and Jeff Kent?
2008-07-15 11:20:50
91.   underdog
Here I was, wondering how there could already be 90 comments here in the midst of a slow Dodger news day and the break, thinking maybe there was Saito news...

Drew and Bradley Thoughts - now I get it, we're in summer reruns! Cool.

My Blog Guide listings forgot to put an {r} at the end of the write-up on this one.

2008-07-15 11:21:50
92.   Kevin Lewis

Well, here is another topic. What standard rules will we use for whiffle ball at the BBQ?

2008-07-15 11:22:42
93.   sporky
Only 12 more work days until I quit. Woo hoo!
2008-07-15 11:22:52
94.   underdog
What's with that video on Diamond's blog of Hu signing autographs? Looks like Shea Stadium in the background...
2008-07-15 11:26:17
95.   Bluebleeder87
if anything I hope Saito's MRI results are clean...
2008-07-15 11:28:46
96.   Bluebleeder87


2008-07-15 11:30:32
97.   underdog
There was some other sportswriter on a Fox Sports Radio show this morning (I was listening in the shower and couldn't bother to change it) who was giving his expert opinions on everything baseball, mostly the all star stuff, but then he was asked about the NL West, and the now-boring "Will anyone finish above .500 hah hah?" question, and he spoke about the Dodgers, predicting they would probably win the division, but that they - and this is where I finally stormed out of the shower to switch stations because I couldn't take it anymore -- "had a chance to get CC Sabathia and for some reason didn't complete the deal" and basically repeating the same mantra that you hear from Rosenthal and Olney. "They could have acquired a pitcher [WHICH IS NOT WHAT THEY NEED THE MOST, and by giving up young hitters} and didn't and I don't know why they won't make a deal (FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING A DEAL} and blah blah" and then I shut it off for NPR.
2008-07-15 11:30:56
98.   Eric Stephen
Tonight, on a very special Dodger Thoughts...

Host Jon proclaims, "He's years away from the major-league roster, but I continue to pay too much attention to 18-year-old James Loney. After starting 0 for 7, Loney got his first two hits yesterday, a single and a double."

Catch Dodger Thoughts, seven nights a week! Check local listings.

2008-07-15 11:31:45
99.   Xeifrank
92. International Whiffle Ball Federation rules I would assume. You could go with Canadian Whiffle Ball rules, but they have a wider playing field and only three bases.
vr, Xei
2008-07-15 11:34:53
100.   sporky
Is 'retiring' a better word? Either way, July 31 is my last day in this lab.
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2008-07-15 11:36:44
101.   LoneStar7
97 that was ken rosenthal
2008-07-15 11:37:26
102.   Bluebleeder87
we are with in a pebbles throw from 1st place...

[i just wanted to say that]

2008-07-15 11:37:43
103.   underdog
98 Awww. I love that one. I think Ed Asner has a cameo at the end of it.
2008-07-15 11:38:42
104.   underdog
101 Was it really? I did not recognize his voice at all! I should've known. Well, in a way it's a bit of a relief. Ah, it's just Ken "One Note/Frequently Wrong" Rosenthal.
2008-07-15 11:39:33
105.   Kevin Lewis
Has anyone ever developed a successful approach to telling your "forward friends" that you don't like to read forwarded messages all day long? I have tried different approaches, but I always end up offending the person. I wonder if it is because most of the forwards are political in nature?
2008-07-15 11:41:52
106.   Eric Stephen
I once tried replying to all with "Unsubscribe" as the subject and body of the message, but that went over about as well as a punch in the face.
2008-07-15 11:42:39
107.   Bob Timmermann
I discovered yesterday in Gmail that if you press the M key hard while reading a message, the conversation becomes "muted" and you don't see it anymore, but it doesn't become spam.

It's also a bit harrowing when you try to send a message to someone whose name begins with M and you think you lost it.

2008-07-15 11:42:58
108.   cargill06
105 i get forwarded text message's from my buddy all the time, i always just respond with something along the lines of, "dude what's wrong with you" or, "you're a weird guy."
2008-07-15 11:43:31
109.   berkowit28
From Diamond Leung:

"Class AAA Las Vegas shortstop Chin-lung Hu could be activated from the disabled list by the end of the week after missing more than a month with blurred vision in his right eye."

There's also a really weird video of Hu's LA cap visor as he apparently stares at his feet (eventually it's appears he's signing autographs) while a woman (maybe the owner or friend of the cell phone camera) cackles at him in Chinese.

2008-07-15 11:44:03
110.   LoneStar7
104 yea I heard the same thing this morning, it was some guy (last name Feinstein) I believe filling in for Rome who's been away...he had "Kenny Rosenthal" on for an interview and was continuously raving about how knowledgeable Rosenthal was.
2008-07-15 11:44:10
111.   blue22
105 - If they're forwarding cautionary tales (the snake in the McD's ballpit!) or stories about Bill Gates giving everyone who forwards this a $100 (because they have the technology to track that!), I usually respond with the Snopes entry that debunks it.
2008-07-15 11:45:04
112.   Kevin Lewis

Maybe this is my problem...I like that idea :)

2008-07-15 11:45:37
113.   sporky
109 Redundancy Thoughts indeed! :)
2008-07-15 11:46:20
114.   Mike De Leon
78. You're assuming that Drew could have played CF, or RF for that matter, with his weak knee yeah I know he's managed it in Boston and DH's rarely. He has been pretty durable , for him at least, playing 133 games in the OF in 07 and 79 so far this year. The problem I have with Drew is that you never know when he's going to go on the DL for an extended period of time. Would he have been an up grade? No doubt, but if he had been re-signed, with the Dodgers luck, he would have reverted back to his 05 form and played only 70-80 games.

As far as MB goes, I loved the way he played and the reports are that he's great in the locker room but his volatility was a liability. Too the fact that he's in the AL could have something to do with his performance, that and having a bunch of good hitters around him, as Texas always seems to have.

2008-07-15 11:47:59
115.   CodyS
Between Hu and DeJesus, I hope someone can replace Maza as utility infielder. But Maza was hitting .400 at AAA and apparently that translates to .200 in the majors. So Hu will have to hit .500 or .600 in AAA before he gets a promotion. DeJesus may have to hit over 1.000 in AA to earn the promotion.
2008-07-15 11:51:28
116.   Eric Stephen
A co-worker once forwarded me a message to boycott gasoline companies on a Tuesday, and I replied to all with something like "this is the dumbest thing I have ever read", but most of the list was just his friends, who actually enjoyed his being raked over the coals.
2008-07-15 11:55:11
117.   Xeifrank
A .400 batting average at AAA Las Vegas (in 300 ABs) would be the equivalent of a .325 batting average at Dodger Stadium.
vr, Xei
2008-07-15 11:55:54
118.   underdog
I think a "Hey thanks for thinking of me but I get so many e-mails I'd love it if you could in the future remove me from any mass email/forward lists you have. Thanks." should suffice. It's not really all that complicated. If that doesn't work, start forwarding to the offending friend Nigerian bank emails and "hilarious" Cialis spams, or cute pictures of kittens.
2008-07-15 11:56:08
119.   John Hale
Coming from out of state for my first trip to Doger Stadium in years. My two sons would love to see batting practice.

Has anyone done the warning track thing I saw on Do they do that every game?

Trying to get to the game against Arizona on Fri 8/1. Has Jon or anyone written an updated secrets to parking at Dodger stadium. I know this was a hot topic last season.

2008-07-15 12:01:00
120.   Kevin Lewis

That last idea is awesome.

2008-07-15 12:05:14
121.   Bob Timmermann
I believe the warning track thing is called "Autograph Alley" and it's there every game I believe unless there is some special event that prevents it.
2008-07-15 12:32:06
122.   ibleedbloo
119 If you are showing up for BP, then parking shouldn't be a problem. I would recommend the Sunset exit and get as close to an exit line as possible.

121 Speaking of "Autograph
Alley", how many people actually remember Matt Luke enough to want his signature? It seems like he is always the one signing.

2008-07-15 12:33:47
123.   regfairfield
122 I loved Matt Luke.
2008-07-15 12:37:35
124.   GiantturnedDodger
Have not been able to keep up as much with this site due to too much travel. Has anyone been to the Spring St. Smoke House to pregame? It was reviewed by the Times last week or so. We went Saturday and I thought the place was really cool. Also has anyone commented on Kemp's swing this year? To me it looks the coaches are trying to turn him into a contact - slap hitter. I recall last year he was more grip it and rip it.
2008-07-15 12:42:16
125.   Crimson Bear
One issue with Kemp that confuses me is this: it seems like Kemp has drastically changed his approach at the plate this year. It's been mentioned several times on the site before but it certainly appears that he is less aggressive against fastballs early in the count, seems to consistently be looking for breaking balls and adjusting to fastballs instead of the reverse and wants to hit to right-center a lot. Assuming that is true, I have to believe that he has changed his approach in consultation with the coaching staff, it seems awfully hard to believe that such a young player would make such a drastic change without the support of the manager and hitting coach. If that is correct, then I don't understand how anyone can claim that he is uncoachable or refusing to listen. If a guy is willing to retool his entire approach at the plate then it seems to me that is the epitome of willingness to learn, yet there is this constant assumption that Kemp does not do things the "right way."
2008-07-15 12:47:51
126.   SevenNineSixtyFive
Apologies for posting here on a line of thought from the previous thread (I had to sign up to comment - hence the time lag) but I'm surprised that those of you who were speculating about Bob Dylan and his interest in baseball don't know his song "Catfish" (written w/ Jacques Levy, from the Rolling Thunder era)...

"Lazy stadium night
Catfish on the mound.
"Strike three," the umpire said,
Batter have to go back and sit down.

Catfish, million-dollar-man,
Nobody can throw the ball like Catfish can.

Used to work on Mr. Finley's farm
But the old man wouldn't pay
So he packed his glove and took his arm
An' one day he just ran away.

Catfish, million-dollar-man,
Nobody can throw the ball like Catfish can.

Come up where the Yankees are,
Dress up in a pinstripe suit,
Smoke a custom-made cigar,
Wear an alligator boot.

Catfish, million-dollar-man,
Nobody can throw the ball like Catfish can."

The rest of the lyrics can be found here and elsewhere on line...

(Everybody here seems to use other formats for posting site links - but this is the only way I know how to do it.)

Also - I have a question for John or any other Dodger historian here.

I recall going to a game in the '60s as a small child at the time when Durocher was a Dodger coach, and going to try to get autographs at a spot where the players exited the stadium after the game, and saw Durocher come out and - after someone said something to him - slug the guy square in the chin. First time in my young life I'd seen a fist fight up close (this was a real, solid, lay someone out slug - not schoolyard bluster - yet I've seen any mention of the incident anywhere - and it was in full view of the public (maybe ten to twenty fans, as I recall, waiting outside). I think people stepped in and separated them afterwards. I didn't hear what was said, and I've always wondered what was behind it all.

Great site. Though I must admit that, as someone who agrees with Benjamin Disraeli that there are "lies, damn lies, and statistics," I'm much fonder of the lore of the game than the math of it.

2008-07-15 12:48:38
127.   delias man
125 Let's hope that he is Mattingly's #1 priority.
2008-07-15 12:50:39
128.   Bob Timmermann
Leo Durocher slugging a fan? I'm shocked!

I thought he did that twice a week. In the early 1960s, the press would have covered up any fight between Durocher and a fan because that's just the way things were done back then.

Durocher would have to have done some serious damage or been arrested for the matter to get any press coverage at the time.

2008-07-15 12:54:28
129.   John Hale
121 122 Autograph Alley sounds like a great way to introduce 5 and 9 year olds to Dodger Stadium
No offense but I hope we do better then Matt Luke
Rudy Law sounds like a reasonable level of former player to walk an extra fifty feet for an autograph
2008-07-15 12:56:50
130.   Bob Timmermann
An autographed baseball by Rudy Law is one of my most treasured possessions.

At least since Saturday.

2008-07-15 12:59:14
131.   berkowit28
125 It could be that Kemp is not as successful as they'd like, or hoped, having changed his approach in line with coaching. Out of frustration, they might attribute this to "not trying hard enough" instead of "takes a long time to adjust and get all the details right" or even to "less than ideal coaching". Not fair, of course.
2008-07-15 13:01:28
132.   ibleedbloo
129 This is last homestands Autography Alley schedule I couldn't find any info on your dates, but I didn't really look that hard so it may be somewhere.
2008-07-15 13:04:44
133.   ToyCannon
The scar right? For some reason I also liked him but had he come up during your heyday, wouldn't he have been given the Maza treatment?
2008-07-15 13:10:33
134.   regfairfield
133 Yep.
2008-07-15 13:11:21
135.   Mike De Leon
125. Last year he started out not hitting very well either, he picked up after Mueller became the hitting coach, as did the rest of the team. So I'd attribute his 'new' approach to the coaching staff screwing him up. I always wondered why Easler was put as the hitting coach instead of Mueller just staying there til Mattingly was available.
2008-07-15 13:13:40
136.   El Lay Dave
133 Luke's 12 HR in 257 PAs is a better ratio than anyone on today's team! He's sorta more Betemit than Maza, .287 OBP, but .444 Slg. After May 14, that was a depressing team/season to follow anyway, so might as well cheer for the underdog.
2008-07-15 13:14:18
137.   El Lay Dave
135 I thought Mueller didn't want the job this year.
2008-07-15 13:15:33
138.   kinbote
136 Matt Luke was a poor man's Danny Heep :)
2008-07-15 13:15:57
139.   regfairfield
136 Yeah, but he fills the Maza role of career minor leaguer who never did a thing that suddenly had a hot streak.
2008-07-15 13:16:36
140.   underdog
136 I agree! ;-)
2008-07-15 13:16:45
141.   ToyCannon
Ever yearn for the days when you could just root for a guy for whatever reason and not have the numbers tell you how sucky he was?

Based on conversations I've overhead or been part of with Dodgers fans I figure about 95% of fans who go to Dodger Stadium do it that way.

2008-07-15 13:18:19
142.   ToyCannon
I wonder if Maza will be signing autographs, a decade from now in autograph alley.
2008-07-15 13:18:46
143.   Mike De Leon
137. I never heard that, but that would explain why he wasn't the interim HC. Of course mccourt could have made him do it just by telling him he was the guy, but he probably wouldn't have been too effective if he didn't want to do it.
2008-07-15 13:19:09
144.   regfairfield
141 Totally. It was a really sad day for me when I realized how much I would hate Eric Karros if he was our first baseman right now.

It would be even worse the day we traded the number two prospect in baseball so we could keep our below average first baseman.

2008-07-15 13:19:12
145.   Crimson Bear
To be honest, I'm not totally convinced that the new approach is "screwing him up." He has so much raw talent that I wonder if down the road this new style will help him to recognize breaking balls out of the zone while also crushing fastballs. I'm a bit of an optimist but there's some possibility that this year is a slight step back that leads to a leap forward which, considering how awesome he is already, would make him an absolute superstar (kind of like when Tiger Woods retooled his swing). My only point is that I am frustrated that he is viewed as uncoachable and "not a ballplayer" when there is good evidence that the opposite is true. I guess it's a trash can-related issue.
2008-07-15 13:25:10
146.   kinbote
Is there a rule teams can't announce trades during the all-star break?
2008-07-15 13:25:52
147.   kinbote
146 Sorry. Bob, is there a rule . . .
2008-07-15 13:27:27
148.   Marty
124 I ate at Spring Street Smokehouse over a year ago and was not impressed. But, I should give it another try. Someone on this site also mentioned awhile back that they server beer now too.
2008-07-15 13:28:01
149.   Dodgers49
51s go into break on high note

>> After a rough stretch of starts, 51s right-hander Jon Meloan finally had reason to feel good about himself after walking off the mound Monday. So did his teammates.

Meloan threw a season-high seven innings en route to his first win since June 2 <<

2008-07-15 13:29:49
150.   Eric Stephen
I expect Matt Kemp's season to unfold much like that of Billy "Downtown" Anderson's in "Major League 3: Back to the Minors".

All season long, manager Scott Bakula (not concerned with character name here) drilled into his hotshot young star the importance of fundamentals and teamwork, often asking him to sacrifice. In the ultimate game of the season (a game against the Ted Mcginley-managed major league Twins), Downtown was so brainwashed/coached that he asked Bakula if he wanted him to sacrifice in his final AB.

The manager's response: "No. I want you to swing away." Infused with confidence, young Billy Anderson did in fact go downtown, securing victory for Bakula's club.

I expect at some point in the next month, our young Oklahoman will ask Torre something like, "you want me to hit a ball to the right side, skip?" And Torre, with his hat resting high atop his head, will tell Kemp "no kid, just mash", and Kemp will proceed to take the National League by storm. :)

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2008-07-15 13:32:36
151.   Eric Stephen
In 2006, Tampa traded Aubrey Huff to Houston for Ben Zobrist and Mitch Talbot, the day after the ASG. Does that count?
2008-07-15 13:33:22
152.   Terry A
Those of you talking about unwanted junk mail and forwards from "friends" may be interested in this:

2008-07-15 13:36:28
153.   kinbote
151 Thanks. That "rule" must be limited to the postseason.
2008-07-15 13:36:39
154.   Bob Timmermann
That could also be a scene out of "Mr. Baseball."
2008-07-15 13:37:04
155.   Bob Timmermann
It's not a rule as much as it's just a set of guidelines.
2008-07-15 13:37:54
156.   gibsonhobbs88
122 - Ken Landreaux is a regular at Autograph Alley also. I've seen him there on at least 3 occasions and I've been to 8 or 9 games total this year.

It's amazing to me still that the media and what constitutes the "Dodger's brain trust" can have their priorities and their heads so screwed up. I mean to constantly harp on Kemp who is still batting over .280 has over 50 RBI, over 20 steals while Mr. 18 million has got what 2 HR and 9 or 10 RBI and batting .160. I am totally flabbergasted and bewildered by Ned, Torre and Company and their myopic judgments!! It is really getting old and most of the regular fans I'm around at the games aren't buying it!

2008-07-15 13:38:34
157.   silverwidow
From Cot's contracts:

Kuroda may become a free agent after contract expires

Does this mean he can leave the Dodgers for another U.S. team with only 3 years of ML service? I find that odd.

2008-07-15 13:38:39
158.   blue22
145/150 - Matt Kemp's hit chart certainly shows him making a concerted effort to go the other way. A majority of his fly balls, home runs, and extra base hits are going to right field. Amazing that he only has one homerun on the road so far.

2008-07-15 13:39:59
159.   Daniel Zappala
91 Drew and Bradley Thoughts - now I get it, we're in summer reruns! Cool.


2008-07-15 13:42:30
160.   Bob Timmermann
Most of the Japanese players have a clause like that attached. After having to pitch 9-10 years in Japan, they don't want to get tied down in the U.S.

Danys Baez had a similar clause in his contract because he felt his years he put in in Cuba were worthy of veteran status.

2008-07-15 13:42:44
161.   regfairfield
157 I'm sure you can get that written into your contract somehow.
2008-07-15 13:58:08
162.   GiantturnedDodger
148 They have a pretty good selection of beer both on tap and in bottles. They feature Angel City Brew on tap which is pretty good. I had the same bad first experience at Philipps's but have had several great experiences since. Give it another try.
2008-07-15 14:01:20
163.   Marty
162 Do you know if they have Craftsman beer on tap?
2008-07-15 14:09:58
164.   cargill06
150 i got my vote ready for post of the day
2008-07-15 14:12:58
165.   Eric Stephen
Remember when it was a big thing to be "Play of the Day" on Sports Tonight on CNN? The heyday of Fred Hickman and Vince Cellini!
2008-07-15 14:16:12
166.   underdog
Hah hah. The Giants are bringing back the Crazy Crab, that hilariously awful mascot from the 80s, for a one-time promotion during upcoming game. Someone will probably try to make a Crabby Patty out of the poor guy.
2008-07-15 14:18:40
167.   Eric Stephen
Lincecum hospitalized for dehydration and flu-like symptoms:

Sounds like his first AS party went well!

2008-07-15 14:21:20
168.   regfairfield
167 Is that a new thing to add the suffix, or is that a one in a trillion coincidence there.
2008-07-15 14:21:46
169.   natepurcell
Ever since I called Bryan Morris out on his lack of strikeouts, he has been locked in for Great Lakes.

Last 4 outings:

21.1IP 9H 7bb 24K 0.85era

2008-07-15 14:22:56
170.   Disabled List
The thing to get at Spring St. Smokehouse is the Louisiana Hot Links. Homemade, and unlike any I've ever had elsewhere.
2008-07-15 14:23:35
171.   Eric Stephen
They have a new feature to create your own suffix. More info here:


2008-07-15 14:25:40
172.   ToyCannon
Cool, the internet experience just keeps getting better.
2008-07-15 14:26:18
173.   silverwidow
169 He should be promoted to the 66ers.
2008-07-15 14:26:44
174.   sporky
171 Alas!

"Error: TinyURL redirects to a TinyURL."

2008-07-15 14:27:01
175.   berkowit28
157 Kuroda was hired as a free agent, not as an indentured servant like the regular rookies. An MLB team did not have to invest years of teaching him to play baseball in rookie and minor leagues.
2008-07-15 14:31:52
176.   Eric Stephen
By the way, that is the first time I've ever made a small link longer by using Tiny URL. I'm surprised it let me create that.
2008-07-15 14:32:37
177.   Eric Stephen
D'oh! The link was just to anyway.
2008-07-15 14:33:02
178.   regfairfield
175 If that was true, Saito could walk anytime.
2008-07-15 14:33:22
179.   sporky
What if someone else tries to use "lincecum" (or, for that matter, "ericstephenisgreat")? Is there an overwrite?
2008-07-15 14:33:55
180.   silverwidow
CC and K-Rod will only cost $200,000,000

I wonder if McCourt is interested.

2008-07-15 14:34:57
181.   sporky
179 No overwrite. will forever lead to an error page.
2008-07-15 14:35:30
182.   Icaros

No, he's an indentured servant because he came in on a minor league deal due to the fact that no one was interested in him. It's different for the ones who sign major league contracts from the start.

2008-07-15 14:35:53
183.   Eric Stephen
"The custom alias you've chosen is not available. We've created a random one for you instead, but you can try assigning a different custom alias again below. Use 6 characters or more for the best chance of getting a unique unassigned alias"

Shocking that "ericstephenisgreat" wasn't already taken! :)

2008-07-15 14:36:44
184.   Eric Stephen
I perhaps should have taken better care of my legacy.
2008-07-15 14:37:22
185.   Xeifrank
I wonder what time Saito's doctor gets back in town? vr, Xei
2008-07-15 14:38:23
186.   Icaros

The longer this takes, the more I feel the news is un-good.

2008-07-15 14:38:42
187.   sporky
184 I'm sure you'll find another adjective to your liking.
2008-07-15 14:39:43
188.   cargill06
185 186 i need him to be placed on the DL asap so i can put him on the DL in my fantasy league so i can pick up kershaw.
2008-07-15 14:42:13
189.   Zak
180 I hope we are passing on K-Rod and stick with Brox... we already have a dumbass in our clubhouse that everyone hates.
2008-07-15 14:43:17
190.   okdodge
188 In my league if Sammy goes on the DL, I'm picking up Broxton. Saves count big time for me.
2008-07-15 14:43:56
191.   Icaros
We'd get K-Rod just in time for his insane delivery to end his career. Bullpen is not an issue for LA, and hasn't been for years.
2008-07-15 14:45:22
192.   D4P
Shocking headline:

FBI lab workers say 'CSI' not realistic

2008-07-15 14:47:21
193.   cargill06
190 already missed the boat on that one.
2008-07-15 14:47:33
194.   Zak
192 What?! Next thing you know, the CIA and NSA will say that "24" is not realistic.
2008-07-15 14:48:11
195.   jumanjifan01
Hi DT,

With not much Dodger related news hitting the press during the all-star break, I wonder if some of you would be willing to share your opinion with me/play a little game.

I don't know about you, but I get a dreadful feeling when I think ahead two weeks from now when the Rosenthal rumors are flying and Plaschke is making one final push to buy everything at the trade deadline.

I'm asking for pure speculation on your part.

"What are the chances that ________ will be traded from the Dodgers before the end of July?"

To keep it easy, assign each player a percentage.

Dewitt: 10%
Ethier: 35%
Hu: 55%
Kemp: 30%
Laroche: 65%
Lowe: 25%
Loney: 15%
McDonald: 30%
Peewee: 20%

Anyone else I'm forgetting, please feel free to add. Thanks for playing

2008-07-15 14:50:36
196.   Icaros

Kind of feels like Howard Stern's "death pool."

2008-07-15 14:51:06
197.   sporky
195 That's kind of morbid :(
2008-07-15 14:52:58
198.   cargill06
195 your list looks pretty reasonable, if penny had stayed healthy i'd throw him out there at about 45%
2008-07-15 14:53:39
199.   berkowit28
Last week, I heard the former head of Britain's MI5 say on NPR that the novels of John Le Carré are realistic for the cold war period they were set in. (Believe it or not the interviewer then asked her if Fleming's James Bond novels and the movies were also realistic. ;-) She kept her cool in replying.)
2008-07-15 14:55:11
200.   D4P
I didn't know one way or the other for sure, but I've always felt like Le Carré's novels were realistic.
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2008-07-15 14:57:28
201.   Zak
195 i'm going to go conservative

Dewitt: 3% - Torre loves him
Ethier: 15% - hard to see us moving an OF not named Kemp
Hu: 20% - injury-prone bullpen guy - worth more to Dodgers than other teams
Kemp: 30% - this one is tougher with all the negative press you read... still, hard to imagine the Dodgers won't realize that he is young and and still has star potential.
Laroche: 30% - his value has gone down.. I think Ned looks bad if he gives up on him now. Aug 1, he is our starting 3B for the rest of year.
Lowe: 50% - I really think that Lowe is gone. Philly or St. Louis will want him bad enough. Wouldn't surprise me if the Rays or Twins bit too.
Loney: 5% - He doesn't go unless we get Tex back.
McDonald: 30% - He could only go if we're getting a legit star like Bay or Tex.
Peewee: 10% - again, low perceived value to most teams

2008-07-15 14:57:55
202.   jumanjifan01
197 - Yes, it is morbid. But I think that if there's any kind of bright side it's that Bills has cemented himself along with RuMar as one of the 0% Dodgers
2008-07-15 14:59:55
203.   D4P
Laroche: 30% - his value has gone down.. I think Ned looks bad if he gives up on him now

I'm not trying to be funny when I say, "That has never stopped Ned before."

2008-07-15 15:00:14
204.   Zak
202 I think Loney is very close to that group, no?
2008-07-15 15:01:18
205.   Zak
203 That is sadly true. I've always felt that Ned would be a really bad stocktrader.
2008-07-15 15:01:48
206.   Xeifrank
186. Yeah, it's probably a complicated diagnosis. Atleast in the sense that it's probably not something like "he just needs to rest his arm". Otherwise, what could be taking so long. vr, Xei
2008-07-15 15:02:36
207.   cargill06
202 i never get the 0% thing, what if for whatever reason you get like a hamels and burrell for pierre and bills deal? does that mean you can't do it becuase bills is untradeable?
2008-07-15 15:03:48
208.   sporky
201 I think you're confusing the two Taiwanese Dodgers.
2008-07-15 15:04:21
209.   natepurcell

Is 0.0001% better for you?

2008-07-15 15:04:51
210.   Zak
I take it to mean that a favorable trade involving Bills is close to 0% instead of the he is untradeable argument. Anyone is tradeable, but the odds of a trade like the one you suggest are close to 0%.
2008-07-15 15:04:54
211.   Icaros

Which is interesting since Kuo is the better hitter anyway.

2008-07-15 15:05:01
212.   natepurcell
Just out of curiosity, when is it too old to go TP-ing?....
2008-07-15 15:05:08
213.   blue22
201 - Hu: 20% - injury-prone bullpen guy

Wait, Hu?

2008-07-15 15:05:08
214.   underdog
188 190 So it's all about you, then? :-P
2008-07-15 15:05:41
215.   underdog
212 Never too old, if we're talking about Bill Plaschke's house.
2008-07-15 15:05:53
216.   Zak
208 LOL, you are right, I did. Forgot all about the SS.
2008-07-15 15:05:54
217.   Xeifrank
The way the Dodgers and DBacks are constructed "as is", the NL West title is going to be a crapshoot. The difference maker will be one of three things in my opinion. 1) Whoever makes the best trade/addition to the team before the deadline, 2) Whoever avoids injuries to key players (see: Saito), 3) Whichever manager does a better job of putting out the best players on a consistent basis. I'd say Arizona has the advantage on #2 with the lingering Saito injury. Arizona probably has the advantage on #3 with the Andruw Jones/Juan Pierre track history. I'm not sure about #1.
vr, Xei
2008-07-15 15:06:19
218.   jumanjifan01
207 - That 0% should be interpreted as 0% of being dealt away in a stupid deal
2008-07-15 15:08:01
219.   Xeifrank
212. In my neighborhood it's around 45 years old. When I become King, it will be a criminal offense. :)
vr, Xei
2008-07-15 15:10:42
220.   Zak
217 I actually think that the Dodgers have a much better pitching staff top-to-bottom than the Dbacks and that will be the decider. That's even if we lose Saito. Bills/Lowe/Kuroda/ are pretty formidable unless they lose form. If Penny comes back healthy, that'd be great. Kershaw should only be getting better, and Stults and Park have been good. Worst case would be Kuo in the starting rotation, and I don't think that would be a bad thing either. For the Dbacks, they have to win every Webb/Haren start, because the rest of their pitching staff is not too good.
2008-07-15 15:14:08
221.   Icaros

Doug Davis is awesome as long as he's facing the Dodgers.

2008-07-15 15:16:10
222.   silverwidow
Billingsley, Martin, Broxton, Kershaw - 0%
2008-07-15 15:16:41
223.   regfairfield
220 Johnson's FIP is much better than his ERA so he's probably around Kuroda's level. Stults and Park are no better than Owings and Davis and while we can add Kershaw they can add Scherzer. It's pretty even.
2008-07-15 15:17:30
224.   Zak
Total runs scored in the Dbacks/Dodgers series this weekend - 19 runs - over/under?
2008-07-15 15:19:46
225.   cargill06
224 i'd have to take the over.
2008-07-15 15:20:53
226.   Xeifrank
224. Oh, give me the pitching matchups and I will run the numbers. vr, Xei
2008-07-15 15:21:44
227.   natepurcell

I wouldn't call Broxton at 0%.

No reliever should be 0%.

2008-07-15 15:23:01
228.   sporky
Tony Jackson on Saito:

Turns out his appt with Dr. ElAttrache isn't until 5 p.m. West Coast time, so we aren't going to know anything for a while and maybe not even until tomorrow. I know this is a big issue with a lot of Dodgers fans -- I can tell by the number of emails I have gotten today inquiring about it -- but I appreciate your patience. Dr. ElAttrache isn't going to the tell the Dodgers anything, and rightfully so, until he tells Saito himself.

2008-07-15 15:24:12
229.   Eric Stephen
2008-07-15 15:31:07
230.   Kevin Lewis
How is it possible that Kershaw and Broxton are available in your leagues?
2008-07-15 15:31:25
231.   Eric Enders
2008-07-15 15:31:45
232.   Bob Timmermann

Stupid HIPAA!

And professional ethics!

And common courtesy!

2008-07-15 15:31:52
233.   Zak
Owings 5.02 90 1.31 85 35
Davis 3.80 119 1.48 58 35
Johnson 5.23 86 1.41 95 28

Stults 2.67 164 1.25 21 10
Park 2.63 166 1.37 52 24
Kuroda 3.43 128 1.20 62 29

I don't know where to find FIP ERA, but it looks like the Dodgers have a clear advantage with this set of players. Unless you argue that Park/Stults will fall off and Johnson/Davis won't. Am I missing something?

2008-07-15 15:34:03
234.   Eric Enders
230 Yeah, I've been thinking that I must play in a hypercompetitive league compared to most people. In my league guys like Kershaw, Broxton, and Kuo have been been taken all year. Even Eric Stults and Chan Ho Park are taken, for chrissakes.
2008-07-15 15:36:07
235.   ToyCannon
Dewitt: 50%
Ethier: 7.5%
Hu: 5%
Kemp: 1%
Kershaw 4%
Kuo 4%
Laroche: 50%
Lowe: 5%
Loney: 1%
McDonald: 51%
Meloan 51%
Peewee: 25%
Pierre: 2%
Elbert: 7%
Santana: 3%
DeJesus: 4%
2008-07-15 15:36:41
236.   Xeifrank
233. Try
It's a great site.
vr, Xei
2008-07-15 15:38:39
237.   regfairfield
233 Yep, I'm assuming there's going to be some regression involved in Stults and Park.
2008-07-15 15:42:44
238.   cargill06
230 234 , it's only a 10 team league, not a keeper league. pitching categories


kershaw and broxton are available, but i own kuo. once saito is DL eligble that would open a spot for kershaw.

2008-07-15 15:46:11
239.   alex 7
Ned seems like the type of guy that wouldn't raise from the small blind even if it was just he and the big blind left.

Thus, I don't see him trading Derek Lowe. He sees him as too valuable for this season, and Kershaw, Park, Penny, and Stults to be too risky to count on.

Ideally he'd trade Lowe and get back a hitter and a thus-far-underachieving pitcher that could step in and give us a 3.7 era. I don't think he is up to that task.

Bills, Kuroda, Kershaw, Penny, and Park/Stults does seem too risky with Ned needing to get into the playoffs this year.

2008-07-15 15:53:16
240.   Kevin Lewis

Kershaw was drafted from the get go in my league. Too many Dodger fans.

2008-07-15 15:53:35
241.   Indiana Jon
230 234 238

Kershaw and Broxton, even Kuo, are probably available in most leagues that play regular 5 x 5 stats and aren't keeper leagues. I guess Broxton is probably picked up in most of those now, but non-closer relievers just don't have much value. In my sabermetric 20 team league, these three have been on teams all year (Kershaw when he was available), but in others they are free agents right now and in Kuo case, will probably remain that way.

2008-07-15 16:01:42
242.   Eric Enders
I play in a league that uses holds (among other unusual stats) and where about 12 of the 16 team owners work for the Baseball Hall of Fame.

It's a tough league.

2008-07-15 16:02:47
243.   Xeifrank
241. In my keeper league, I drafted all three of those guys (Broxton, Guo and Kershaw). I had to wait a few months to get any use out of Kershaw, and am now waiting again. vr, Xei
2008-07-15 16:06:23
244.   Xeifrank
Ok, the over/under for the three games in Arizona came out to be 26.63 runs. Here is how it broke down, keeping in mind that Chase Field is #2 in park factor/runs scored so far in 2008. vr, Xei

Matchup, over/under, LAD win%
Kuroda/Davis, 9.20, 49.07%
Bills/Haren, 8.81, 46.75%
Lowe/Webb, 8.62, 43.34%

2008-07-15 16:07:22
245.   Xeifrank
244. Saito was left off the roster for these three games and both Jones and Nomar were put in the starting lineup. vr, Xei
2008-07-15 16:12:00
246.   Zak
245 I'd wonder how high the over/under would be if Jones was not included. :)

Seriously though, no 2-0, 3-1 type games predicted? Those last two games don't look like they'd produce 17 runs total. Still, park factor is the big decider, I guess.

2008-07-15 16:15:42
247.   Eric Enders
29 percent of the road homers Billingsley's given up in his career have come at Chase Field (4 of 14).
2008-07-15 16:15:46
248.   Xeifrank
246. The simulator plays 10,000 games. So yes, I'm sure there are plenty of 2-0, 3-1 games in there but they get washed out in all the higher scoring games. What I reported is the average over 10,000 games.
vr, Xei
2008-07-15 16:18:41
249.   Eric Stephen
Dodger batters are hitless in their last five All-Star ABs. The last Dodger base hit was a single by Paul LoDuca off Mark Mulder in the 6th inning of the 2003 game at Comiskey Park.

There are of course no Dodger pitchers there this year, but the club's pitchers have retired the last 8 batters they have faced (after Vlad's HR off Penny in 2006).

2008-07-15 16:19:14
250.   underdog
Interesting piece on the Bleacher Report on the NL's "Should Be An" All-Star Team

Several un-represented Dodgers get a nod (including our injured Sammy) and Bills gets recognition, too. No Russell Martin, however. (Ryan Doumit, NL starting catcher, according to him.)

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2008-07-15 16:20:03
251.   Zak
248 Gotcha. Thanks. Pretty cool tool. I guess we better win the Kuroda game.
2008-07-15 16:20:42
252.   underdog
More from that article linked above specifically about Chad:

"The aforementioned starters—each one proposes a legitimate case to making the All-Star team. If I were to pick two, they would have been Aaron Cook and Chad Billingsley.

For Cook, he is a workhorse who goes unnoticed because half of his starts are at Coors Field—although there is an argument to be made that Coors Field actually helps Cook.

Had Billingsley not started the season by getting thumped in three of his first four starts, we are talking about a legitimate Cy Young candidate. Additionally, despite having a rather high walk rate, Billingsley throws a fair amount of strikes. I haven't checked out his Pitch F/X data to see what kind of swing-and-miss statistics he has, but clearly he is doing something right."

2008-07-15 16:31:32
253.   regfairfield
250 I'm glad that guy's not picking the All Star Team.
2008-07-15 16:33:55
254.   Kevin Lewis
I always know I under priced something on Craigslist when I get about 30 emails wanting it right away. Alas, I am too lazy to delete it to change the price.
2008-07-15 16:45:30
255.   Eric Enders
254 Ned had the same problem with Dioner Navarro.
2008-07-15 16:48:28
256.   KG16
212 - if you have to ask, you're probably too old.

As for trade speculation, I am holding fast to my opinion that the Dodgers are going to stand pat. Unless they get an incredible deal. The only guy I would put at even being a coin toss (45%+) would be Lowe.

2008-07-15 16:49:46
257.   KG16
Had Billingsley not started the season by getting thumped in three of his first four starts, we are talking about a legitimate Cy Young candidate.

I'm guessing even the best pitchers in the game get thumped three times in a season.

2008-07-15 16:57:10
258.   Icaros

Must be taking a page from Dodgers management by letting first impressions determine all.

2008-07-15 16:57:19
259.   Eric Stephen
It's now about that time where we all put our ears up to the door of Dr. ElAttrache's office.
2008-07-15 17:00:27
260.   Sean P

Owings- 4.26 FIP
Davis- 4.05 FIP
Johnson- 4.05 FIP

Stults- 4.44 FIP
Park- 4.19 FIP
Kuroda- 3.99 FIP

2008-07-15 17:07:21
261.   silverwidow
227 Broxton is a 0% because he is our current closer and will excel in that role at a bargain price next year.
2008-07-15 17:09:58
262.   Lexinthedena
Fox and ESPN spend so much time trying to create magical sports moments. All-Star pre-game is such contrived garbage.
2008-07-15 17:12:39
263.   El Lay Dave
RIP Matt McHale - Dodger beat writer back in the day when the Daily News newsprint smudged my fingers.
2008-07-15 17:14:36
264.   Eric Enders
The All-Star Game itself is contrived garbage. Well, maybe not garbage, but definitely contrived.
2008-07-15 17:14:44
265.   regfairfield
262 If you didn't enjoy what Josh Hamilton did last night, you don't like baseball.
2008-07-15 17:16:38
266.   Lexinthedena
265 Did I say Home Run derby?.....who doesn't love the home run derby!?
2008-07-15 17:17:26
267.   68elcamino427
Hu experiences All-Star break vision cure. Love it.
What does it mean?
The accompanying video provides a perfect backround for the announcement.

Are the tradewinds gaining force?

2008-07-15 17:18:57
268.   Marty
Watching people hit near-superballs over a fence just doesn't sound like much fun.
2008-07-15 17:21:08
269.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Of course this is all contrived. I'm glad to see every moment of it nonetheless. Moments like these don't just happen.

I remember when it was in Boston and Ted Williams was there and Tony Gwynn had to help him walk. Damn near made me weep.

2008-07-15 17:25:33
270.   Bluebleeder87
man, Tommy Lasorda is such a stud anywhere he goes...
2008-07-15 17:27:42
271.   Bluebleeder87
it's funny how the ESPN announcer says somebody's name & THEN HE SAYS AN NY Yankee's name...


2008-07-15 17:29:00
272.   Bluebleeder87
Somebody over at Bronx Banter said something about Lincecum, is he hurt or something?

I was looking forward to watching him pitch.

2008-07-15 17:30:03
273.   regfairfield
272 He's out with dehydration and "flu like symptoms" which sounds pretty similar to what my freind went to the morning after the handle challenge.
2008-07-15 17:30:50
274.   still bevens
He also pitched on Sunday so there's no way he would have taken the mound tonight.
2008-07-15 17:30:56
275.   Louis in SF
Does anyone know why Koufax did not attend this event?
2008-07-15 17:31:27
276.   Icaros
Why is Sheryl Crow considered talented?
2008-07-15 17:31:42
277.   Indiana Jon
273 I'll bite. What's a handle challenge?
2008-07-15 17:32:08
278.   Eric Enders
265 , 266 It's batting practice. Key word, practice. We talkin' about practice.
2008-07-15 17:32:19
279.   Indiana Jon
275 Does Koufax ever attend an event?
2008-07-15 17:32:51
280.   regfairfield
277 Two men, one handle of the booze of your choice. Continue until handle is empty or both participants are unconcious.
2008-07-15 17:34:11
281.   Eric Enders
Koufax does attend the HOF induction sometimes, partucularly when an ex-Dodger is inducted. But it should never surprise anyone to see him absent from any event.
2008-07-15 17:34:35
282.   Marty
What is a handle of booze? How much is that?
2008-07-15 17:34:49
283.   D4P
Why is Sheryl Crow considered talented?

See also: most "celebrities"

2008-07-15 17:36:13
284.   regfairfield
282 1.75 liters, the standard for the big bottles.
2008-07-15 17:36:49
285.   Indiana Jon
280 Sounds fun. Next year I will try that in conjunction with the Home Run Derby. It will also be just practice for me.
2008-07-15 17:37:26
286.   Indiana Jon
281 Does he live in New York or elsewhere?
2008-07-15 17:37:29
287.   Eric Enders
Perhaps a handle of booze is like a lid of the Yoda. Just enough booze to fill a hollow jug handle.
2008-07-15 17:37:47
288.   regfairfield
I made the mistake last night of trying "drink everytime Chris Berman says back".

I was late to work this morning.

2008-07-15 17:37:57
289.   Marty
I never heard it referred to like that. That's a lot of alcohol. Obviously, a young man's game.
2008-07-15 17:37:58
290.   Icaros

It's silly of me to bring it up. People like what they like. But I've never found any of her work even remotely memorable or interesting. I also don't think she's physically attractive, which I hear others say a lot. I've been waiting for that star to fade since the 90s.

2008-07-15 17:38:22
291.   Louis in SF
Didn't Koufax attend the All Star Game in Boston when Ted Williams was honored?
2008-07-15 17:38:50
292.   Eric Enders
286 He's always had multiple residences. He's lived in Vero Beach, Maine, Idaho. Seems like whenever someone finds out where he lives, he moves on to the next place.
2008-07-15 17:39:11
293.   Icaros

My cue there is.

2008-07-15 17:40:31
294.   regfairfield
289 It's a really dumb idea even if you are young.
2008-07-15 17:40:33
295.   Bluebleeder87
I know girls that like her very much so...

I think she has a couple of good songs, she's pretty attractive as well. Different strokes for different folks.

2008-07-15 17:41:00
296.   fracule
Everything that was said about Sheryl Crow, I want to repeat, but directed at Joe Buck.
2008-07-15 17:41:35
297.   Indiana Jon
The National League will win this game tonight. I haven't run it through a simulator, check the odds, or even looked at the lineups much. I just know it will happen. You have my guarantee.
2008-07-15 17:41:45
298.   Bluebleeder87

I hope it wasn't because of "flu like symptoms"

2008-07-15 17:42:03
299.   still bevens
296 I dont think nepotism has anything to do with Cheryl Crow being famous, whereas with Joe Buck...
2008-07-15 17:42:28
300.   Icaros

I'll support that as well. He's a doofus.

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2008-07-15 17:42:47
301.   Indiana Jon
296 You think he's attractive?
2008-07-15 17:42:54
302.   still bevens
297 On a position by position basis the NL is superior, but the NL has found new and creative ways to lose all star games.
2008-07-15 17:42:59
303.   Ken Noe
Count me in...I truly can't abide Joe Buck.
2008-07-15 17:43:06
304.   Bluebleeder87
295 was for Icaros by the way.
2008-07-15 17:43:24
305.   D4P
Among the many female celebrities we're supposed to think are attractive, there are very few I actually think are attractive.
2008-07-15 17:44:22
306.   Indiana Jon
302 According to Yahoo Sports it's all about Ichiro's pep talks.
2008-07-15 17:44:54
307.   fracule
301 I believe it was said, she's not attractive?
2008-07-15 17:45:31
308.   Icaros

I got it.

2008-07-15 17:45:59
309.   Lexinthedena
Joe Buck is the Juan Pierre of the broadcast booth.
2008-07-15 17:46:26
310.   Icaros

Bluebleeder said she was, so that counted under "everything that was said about Sheryl Crow."

2008-07-15 17:46:58
311.   Indiana Jon
Clint Hurdle has a good lineup. The best three hitters on the team are batting 3-4-5. Perhaps Joe should think about giving something like that a try.
2008-07-15 17:47:04
312.   still bevens
Im at work right now - has the game even started? It seems like it was only yesterday when Penny started and mowed down Ichiro, A-Rod and Ortiz.
2008-07-15 17:47:13
313.   Bluebleeder87
just for the heck of it my "pick to click" tonight is EVERYBODY!!!

Thank you. thank you, I'll be hear all night...

2008-07-15 17:47:53
314.   Indiana Jon
307 Check 295
2008-07-15 17:48:06
315.   Alex41592
312 - Game just started.
2008-07-15 17:48:14
316.   Icaros

That's because there aren't enough Filipina female celebrities.

2008-07-15 17:48:29
317.   Bluebleeder87
I seriously wanted the AL to get see Lincecum pitch tonight, oh well.
2008-07-15 17:48:34
318.   fracule
310 Ok, absolutes never work anyway.
2008-07-15 17:49:51
319.   Bob Timmermann
Lincecum pitched Sunday so I doubt he would have pitched at all tonight even if he weren't sick.

But you could see Brian Wilson!

2008-07-15 17:50:19
320.   Icaros

Filipina and female being redundant, of course.

2008-07-15 17:51:23
321.   Indiana Jon
319 Come on, he doesn't even ice his arm or take many warm up pitches. He could have started and closed tonight.
2008-07-15 17:51:38
322.   still bevens
Cliff Lee is not impressed with the stars of the National League
2008-07-15 17:53:03
323.   Bluebleeder87
Thanks for the info Bob. I'm sure he'll start if not next year in the near future.
2008-07-15 17:53:19
324.   Icaros
I'd like them to play the RBI Baseball music for an inning.
2008-07-15 17:53:40
325.   D4P
Who are the famousest Filipinas...?
2008-07-15 17:54:16
326.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Joe Buck doesn't bother me when he does play by play.... when he tries to jump into color commentary/analyst/know-it-all... then i get nausea.
2008-07-15 17:54:54
327.   Bob Timmermann
I would say that Corazon Aquino is the leader in the clubhouse with Imelda Marcos running a close second.

More people probably know Imelda Marcos though, but Corazon Aquino actually did stuff that was good for her country.

Such as not being Imelda Marcos.

2008-07-15 17:55:58
328.   Icaros

Hard to say...maybe the girl who was on the last American Idol?

I've already staked my claim to Charmane Star (NSFW).

2008-07-15 17:56:40
329.   D4P
Imelda baby Imelda baby what to do
All the poor people saying that they gotta quit paying for you
2008-07-15 17:58:08
330.   D4P
Charmane Star (NSFW)

Also NSFHome when you're not home alone.

2008-07-15 17:58:26
331.   The Trolley Dodger
327 Yeah, I'd say Imelda would be a shoe-in for that list.
2008-07-15 17:58:47
332.   Eric Stephen
2008-07-15 17:59:13
333.   Eric Stephen
2008-07-15 17:59:51
334.   Icaros
I didn't even think Jack Buck was a very good announcer, but I'm sure to get less support on that one.
2008-07-15 18:00:34
335.   Icaros

What, you're not allowed? Lame.

2008-07-15 18:01:58
336.   D4P
What, you're not allowed?

It's our version of Rule 1.

2008-07-15 18:02:03
337.   Eric Stephen
I believe what I just heard! I believe what I just heard!
2008-07-15 18:04:00
338.   Eric Stephen
Someday 2002 will be the answer to a trivia question:

What was the only year of Alert Pujols' HOF career in which he was not an All-Star?

2008-07-15 18:04:08
339.   Icaros

Oh, so she's not allowed, either, huh?

2008-07-15 18:04:25
340.   Who Is Karim Garcia

I just didn't want to be the first to say it.

2008-07-15 18:05:06
341.   briano
Anybody out there watch the pregame ceremonies. I am saddened and frankly a bit perturbed when I see so many other teams represented out there and the only Dodger we see is Don Sutton? Where is the Duke and Koufax. I know these are the only Dodger HoF'ers alive but come on. Is anyone going to tell me that Maury Wills shouldn't be out there as a HoFer. Billy Williams did more for the game than Wills or Hodges or Garvey. Are you tellin me that Ferguson Jenkins or Orlando Cepeda meant more to this game then Fernando or Don Newcomb? Come on folks. This is ridiculous. Thanks for the opportunity to vent.
2008-07-15 18:05:51
342.   D4P
She has no interest.
2008-07-15 18:05:55
343.   Icaros
337 340

Thank you, my brethren.

2008-07-15 18:06:35
344.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Lasorda was also out there. You also have to take into account who they were able to secure and schedule and which 'names' would draw more attention.
2008-07-15 18:07:08
345.   Icaros

See, that just makes it sound like a D4P rule. I'm against male oppression. It's out there more than we're allowed to realize.

2008-07-15 18:10:00
346.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Charmane Starr just made me forget about Joe Buck.
2008-07-15 18:11:05
347.   Icaros

Give it time...everything eventually melts away.

2008-07-15 18:11:19
348.   Bluebleeder87
Chicks who I think are attractive because they are talented:

1) Gwen Stefani (all time for me, I wish she dumped Gavin & marry me)

2)Sheryl Crow

that's all I have for now.

2008-07-15 18:13:31
349.   Marty
Icaros:Sheryl Crow::Marty:Gwen Stefani
2008-07-15 18:14:18
350.   D4P
You could start a new variant on Lindsay Bluth Fünke's "HOOP" campaign...
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2008-07-15 18:17:23
351.   Bluebleeder87

seriously Marty? well I think she's way hot & way cool.

man you guys are tough...

2008-07-15 18:18:08
352.   68elcamino427
Let's get Martin into the game already - what's the hold up?
2008-07-15 18:19:29
353.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Anyone ready to pick a MVP?
2008-07-15 18:20:43
354.   Icaros
See, and I've always had a bit of a thing for Gwen who can explain it?
2008-07-15 18:21:16
355.   Icaros

If it were up to me, he wouldn't get off the bench.

2008-07-15 18:24:45
356.   68elcamino427
Yeah, but you know that he wants to play every inning right?
2008-07-15 18:26:30
357.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I dreamt we had to play him at SS.
2008-07-15 18:28:17
358.   Bob Timmermann
I dreamt this morning before I got up that in 1971 Japanese immigrants were ruining Granada Hills by driving poorly.
2008-07-15 18:28:55
359.   Who Is Karim Garcia
They have Yogi Berra in the booth and they are asking him about museums and asking him if he's "ever not had any fun?"

Good grief.

2008-07-15 18:28:55
360.   D4P
Japanese immigrants were ruining Granada Hills by driving poorly

"God knows they're squinters"

2008-07-15 18:31:07
361.   Eric Stephen
I had a dream that I stole a police car and kicked out the windshield, but only used my new wheels to go to 7-11. I woke up before I found out what kind of Slurpee™ I got.
2008-07-15 18:31:39
362.   Bob Hendley my Playtex...
2008-07-15 18:31:49
363.   Eric Stephen
He should have said, "yes, right now."
2008-07-15 18:32:01
364.   Bob Timmermann
You got a Blue Slurpee.
2008-07-15 18:32:21
365.   D4P
Or "You mean, other than right now?"
2008-07-15 18:34:02
366.   Who Is Karim Garcia
You should made me drop my s'more. The hilarity was worth it and the milk through my nose.
2008-07-15 18:35:33
367.   Bob Timmermann
The thing to remember is: it wasn't a dream.
2008-07-15 18:35:37
368.   Icaros
He could have gotten really mean and said something like, "Those five minutes I was forced to talk to your wife at that houseparty."
2008-07-15 18:35:48
369.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Joe Buck calling this game is making me beg for those Dane Cook AWWWWWK-tober commercials.

Cook has a better delivery than Buck.

I mean, can't I get Gary Thorne and Dave Campbell somewhere?

2008-07-15 18:36:00
370.   68elcamino427
I dreamnt that they traded Kent trained Kemp to play at second base in his place.
2008-07-15 18:36:32
371.   Bob Timmermann
Rick Gonzalez will be the featured actor in the TBS postseason commercials this year.
2008-07-15 18:37:59
372.   Icaros
I dreamt that Kim Ng and Logan White were running the Dodgers as baseball's hottest power couple.
2008-07-15 18:38:06
373.   Who Is Karim Garcia

Will he also be reminding us exactly how many AWK-tobers are on our calendars?

2008-07-15 18:38:20
374.   Eric Stephen
I prefer "The other, other guy from Reaper."
2008-07-15 18:39:21
375.   Eric Stephen
Anyone with Halladay or Kazmir on their fantasy teams, Mariano Rivera says "you're welcome."
2008-07-15 18:40:04
376.   Icaros

Dioner was learning the cutter for his throws to second.

2008-07-15 18:40:10
377.   Eric Stephen
That throw by Ichiro was a "laser."
2008-07-15 18:40:19
378.   Alex41592
369 - Shulman and Campbell are on ESPN Radio.
2008-07-15 18:40:24
379.   Icaros
He was safe.
2008-07-15 18:40:41
380.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Pujols was actually safe, but when the ball beats the man...
2008-07-15 18:42:41
381.   Eric Stephen
One of the greatest announcer/insult/wife moments was during an NBA game a few years back. Former Nugget Scott Hastings was interviewing Danny Ainge, and Ainge was giving him a hard time for the makeup he was wearing while on TV.

Hastings said something like, "I got it from your wife."

2008-07-15 18:43:19
382.   Eric Stephen
Speaking of cutters, Ichiro's ball to second had a wicked tail to it.
2008-07-15 18:43:55
383.   Vishal
pujols' leg might've been in, but then he went off the bag.

besides, if pujols had run all the way to second, he would've been in there easily.

2008-07-15 18:44:19
384.   Bluebleeder87
377 379

He was safe but MAN was that cool...

2008-07-15 18:44:20
385.   Bob Timmermann
Other people know Rick Gonzalez as "Spanish" from the movie "Old School."

But I'm not a big Will Ferrell fan.

2008-07-15 18:45:45
386.   Bluebleeder87
Zambrano's fastballs look like cartoons!!
2008-07-15 18:46:13
387.   Bob Timmermann
The Golden Nuggett sports book is taking bets for USC as a 3 1/2 point favorite over Ohio State.

Bet early and often.

2008-07-15 18:46:59
388.   Who Is Karim Garcia

I also think he was the small forward in "Coach Carter." Maybe he played the two, actually. A swing player.

2008-07-15 18:48:09
389.   Bluebleeder87
MB made a couple of good throws while he was wearing his boy hood team colors. The salami against the Braves was by far my favorite memory of him...
2008-07-15 18:48:43
390.   Vishal
milton bradley, on the other hand, knows how to hustle. (take that, jeff kent!)
2008-07-15 18:49:58
391.   Vishal
i'm still a fan of MB. he's got problems, and he's too sensitive to minor or even simply perceived slights, sure, but he's also misunderstood.
2008-07-15 18:50:48
392.   Bob Timmermann
Milton's intentions are good...

Oh lord, please, don't let him be misunderstood ...

2008-07-15 18:51:14
393.   Gen3Blue
Well, the NL has got a few incredible calls, but at this point we can use them. Go NL, dispell the unegual leagues BS.
2008-07-15 18:51:22
394.   Alex41592
Manny out, Sizemore in.
2008-07-15 18:51:23
395.   Bluebleeder87
the dude from "Juno" looks like a young Jon...


2008-07-15 18:52:43
396.   Gen3Blue
Now the best Santana in the game--hope we get him.
2008-07-15 18:53:30
397.   Vishal
393 are you saying that the talent level of the two leagues are NOT unequal, or that they are, but it sucks and it shouldn't be like that?
2008-07-15 18:54:03
398.   Eric Stephen
Woo hoo! That will pay for Dodger playoff tickets.
2008-07-15 18:54:08
399.   Bluebleeder87
woot woot.


2008-07-15 18:54:38
400.   Vishal
that's more like it.
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2008-07-15 18:54:59
401.   Alex41592
Holliday solo shot 1-0 N.L off Ervin Santana. Opposite field rocket.
2008-07-15 18:56:38
402.   Vishal
397 that should be is, not are. tsk, tsk.
2008-07-15 18:56:40
403.   Alex41592
A-Rod out, Crede in. Mid-inning.
2008-07-15 18:58:15
404.   Indiana Jon
Surprised Fukudome has played five innings. He doesn't even deserve to be on the team.
2008-07-15 18:58:19
405.   Eric Stephen
In the 2015 ASG, or whenever its at Dodger Stadium again, we can do the same for Martin, Kemp, et al, so they get the home applause.
2008-07-15 18:58:40
406.   Bluebleeder87
I was thinking Ichiro's OB% wasn't gonna be all that good but it's actually good no? check it out:

best ob% year was 2004 with a .414 ob%
fallowed by this:

.350 ('05)
.370 ('06)
.396 ('07)
.366 ('08 so far)

the guy is a great athlete man.

2008-07-15 19:00:29
407.   gibsonhobbs88
341 - I was thinking the same thing when I was hearing the introductions on the radio. I know Maury and Fernando aren't in the HOF but Maury should be except for the short sighted narrow minded writers that have kept him out. No Duke who played so many games in the WS in Yankee stadium as a Dodger should have been there. Maybe he couldn't be there due to his own committments, I don't know. Koufax again he's so private and doesn't always go for these ceremonial things but it's a shame not to have more Dodger representation.

Still no word on Saito?! My fantasy team and our 2nd half season as fans awaits!!

2008-07-15 19:00:42
408.   Eric Stephen
The bearded mountain man in the Heineken commercial kind of creeps me out with his laughter.
2008-07-15 19:00:45
409.   Alex41592
Marcus Camby traded to the Clippers for a future second rounder.
2008-07-15 19:01:33
410.   Alex41592
Golden God Alert!
2008-07-15 19:01:35
411.   Vishal
martin in the game!
2008-07-15 19:01:51
412.   Alex41592
Martin will be catching Dan Haren.
2008-07-15 19:01:58
413.   Bluebleeder87
So if the NL wins i'm expecting to go at least 10+ years with out a loss.
2008-07-15 19:02:03
414.   fanerman
411 At catcher, not SS. =(
2008-07-15 19:03:37
415.   Indiana Jon
406 His OBP in Japan was phenomenal. Over .400 almost every year.
2008-07-15 19:03:43
416.   Bluebleeder87
I like it that Martin is catching now...
2008-07-15 19:05:21
417.   Bluebleeder87
a little lower...
2008-07-15 19:05:35
418.   Vishal
awww, the throw was high. kinsler had it beat anyway though.
2008-07-15 19:06:19
419.   Alex41592
Great jump by Kinsler.
2008-07-15 19:07:46
420.   Bluebleeder87
I thought if Martin's throw was lower he would have nailed the runner. what do you think Vishal?

hey, Vishal so your gonna hang out with us right!? (picnic)

2008-07-15 19:09:44
421.   larry slimfast
was a-rod pulled for a reason or was he just pulled mid inning to get an ovation?
2008-07-15 19:09:58
422.   Alex41592
Haren keeps shaking off Russ.
2008-07-15 19:10:49
423.   Alex41592
421 - Ovation. The same thing will happen next inning with Jeter.
2008-07-15 19:12:22
424.   Bluebleeder87
Derek Jeter's life time obp is a very respectable .386 & his life time OPS+ 121

Hall of Famer? personally I think so. They just plays baseball the right way...

2008-07-15 19:14:21
425.   Bluebleeder87
I think the stadium will collapse when Mariano Rivera comes in.
2008-07-15 19:14:23
426.   Bob Timmermann
They just plays baseball the right way...

Did you learn that phrase from "How to learn to speak with American sports broadcasters cliches?"

2008-07-15 19:17:01
427.   LogikReader
Lemme tell you, if Francona micro-manages regular Red Sox games the way he does this All Star game, I'd be very annoyed if I was a Sox fan.
2008-07-15 19:17:21
428.   Vishal
420 august 16th in LA? probably not, man. i'm in SF.

i don't think he could've gotten kinsler. that steal was on haren, not martin.

2008-07-15 19:18:14
429.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder how many DT'ers have gone to Yankee Stadium, I know BH has been there, obviously Molly Knight has, I'm thinking Jon's been there too.
2008-07-15 19:19:42
430.   Bob Timmermann
Raises hand.
2008-07-15 19:19:46
431.   Bluebleeder87
look at us with a 2 run lead...
2008-07-15 19:19:47
432.   LogikReader

I was there just last week! It was a great experience. In fact the game I was at was the last home game played before the break.

2008-07-15 19:20:53
433.   Bluebleeder87
I'll raise my hand one of these days as well but new NY Stadium will have to do.
2008-07-15 19:21:34
434.   Bob Timmermann
Somebody check the NL bullpen for signs of Trevor Hoffman.

Not there.

Whew! That's good.

I can sense Game 1 of the World Series coming to me live from the Friendly Confines.

2008-07-15 19:22:14
435.   LogikReader
The good news is, New Yankee Stadium will look a lot like the old one. The field dimensions are almost identical.
2008-07-15 19:22:20
436.   Eric Stephen
I saw the outside of Yankee Stadium from a boat while taking a 3-hour tour (a 3-hour tour!) around Manhattan.
2008-07-15 19:23:16
437.   gibsonhobbs88
429 - I was there in 2000 - same trip I went to Fenway and to Cooperstown the summer prior to my 40th birthday. I not only saw games there but also got to go on tours of both stadiums. My wife paid to have my name on the Yankee message board-a birthday message so a Dodger fan could have his name on the Yankee message board. What a woman!! Yankees beat the A's 12-6 that day.
2008-07-15 19:23:43
438.   Eric Stephen
The Trop will be rockin' for games 3-5!
2008-07-15 19:24:22
439.   Indiana Jon
429 I was there a couple times. Great place to watch a game.
2008-07-15 19:24:59
440.   Bob Timmermann
From a USA Today story about Billy Packer by Michael Hiestand:
"Packer is pretty difficult to categorize. He's never learned to type or use the Internet. He's never had a cellphone. He famously thinks TV ratings are bogus. He hired a psychic to find the murder weapon in the O.J. Simpson case and used to play golf backward, hitting from green to tee. He once stacked his collected Picasso ceramics in Plexiglas under a plywood board — and used it as a work desk."

Diane Pucin in the LA Times says she knows Packer's cell phone number. And also Packer has sent out e-mail apologies to people. Perhaps he staffs that out.

But why in the world would anyone play golf from green to tee? What golf course would let you tee off on a green?

2008-07-15 19:25:22
441.   larry slimfast
Hate to say it but one of the best baseball experiences of my life was in the right field bleachers in Yankee Stadium.
2008-07-15 19:25:25
442.   still bevens
429 Saw a Yanks/Mariners game in 2005.
2008-07-15 19:26:13
443.   Bluebleeder87
well I'll live vicariously thru my friend, he's heading out there in August.

I told him to take many many pics.

2008-07-15 19:26:52
444.   kachang
429 ... I'm a regular reader, but an infrequent poster.

Yankee stadium is unfortunately, my home stadium.
I live next to the 4 train, my brother in law has season tickets, and my wife works for MLB here in New York. So I'm there about 20 times a year.

It's got a great atmosphere during playoff games, etc.

But what I would give to be as close as to
Chavez Ravine.

2008-07-15 19:27:00
445.   ryu
409 Woohoo! Now we just gotta cross our fingers about Camby and Davis staying healthy.
2008-07-15 19:27:03
446.   Indiana Jon
Hopefully when the new stadium is opened that won't affect the run down bar/bowling alley across the street in right field. Great place to grab a beer and check out the local nuts.
2008-07-15 19:27:11
447.   Vishal
438 :) i may have to root against the cubs if that happens.
2008-07-15 19:28:36
448.   Michael D

No Hoffman but the Nl bullpen does have Billy Wagner, and Brian Wilson. The AL has a much better pen so nothing automatic here with the lead.

2008-07-15 19:29:16
449.   Alex41592
Gonzalez in, Berkman out. Uggla (you know his name means owl?) in, Utley out. Tejada in, Hanley out.
2008-07-15 19:29:42
450.   Vishal
434 what is it with overrated people named brian wilson?


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2008-07-15 19:29:43
451.   kachang
446 Stan's - it's a hell hole, but yeah it's kind of fun...almost like going to a zoo.

whoa two posts in 1 hour - i'm gonna have to slow down here

2008-07-15 19:29:51
452.   LogikReader

That really is a bowling alley isn't it? I walked by there after the game and I wasn't sure. Who has a bowling alley by a historic ballpark? That is very cool.


NL with a two run lead? Just gotta.... HANG ON!!!

I like what Hurdle is doing (or not doing) so far.

2008-07-15 19:30:03
453.   Bob Timmermann
So who will Hurdle use the last three innings? And would Wagner be tabbed to pitch the ninth? It won't be Wilson, but Lidge is pitching better this year.
2008-07-15 19:30:16
454.   Vishal
450 er, that should be re: 448
2008-07-15 19:30:49
455.   Indiana Jon
448 Marmol too, I think.
2008-07-15 19:31:09
456.   Bob Timmermann
Marmol has been pretty bad recently.
2008-07-15 19:32:08
457.   Alex41592
Bad throw, but he had NO shot.
2008-07-15 19:32:21
458.   Eric Stephen
That comment kind of flew under the radar for me. Good for the Clippers; I have always liked Camby.
2008-07-15 19:33:03
459.   Indiana Jon
452 Even cooler when you find out the bowling alley has restroom attendants, or whatever you call those people that stand in there with towels.
2008-07-15 19:33:45
460.   Alex41592
Volquez is in the bullpen.
2008-07-15 19:34:44
461.   Indiana Jon
456 I know, that's why I was adding him to the list of Hoffman and Wilson.
2008-07-15 19:35:09
462.   Bob Timmermann
For me, the only good reason to root for the NL in this game is to make the trumped up Papelbon-Rivera debate moot.
2008-07-15 19:36:10
463.   Alex41592
Quentin in, Hamilton out. Joe Nathan pitching.
2008-07-15 19:36:41
464.   D4P
the only good reason to root for the NL in this game is to make the trumped up Papelbon-Rivera debate moot

Don't you want the Dodgers to have the homefield advantage in the World Series...?!?!?!?

2008-07-15 19:37:05
465.   Vishal
462 how about because you like the national league, or because they haven't won it in so long?
2008-07-15 19:37:34
466.   Indiana Jon
462 It's more a "continue the Yankee Stadium AL losing streak" thing for me.
2008-07-15 19:37:43
467.   Alex41592
Cook, Dempster, Lidge, Marmol, Volquez, Wagner and Wilson available for the N.L.
2008-07-15 19:38:37
468.   Bob Timmermann
I am not a "league" guy. I didn't even like the League of Nations. Or the Justice League.
2008-07-15 19:38:40
469.   Bluebleeder87

I'd go with Wagner for the 8th & close up shop with Lidge in the 9th. I really hope the NL wins finally...

2008-07-15 19:38:46
470.   Eric Stephen
Karros finally sees an All-Star Game!
2008-07-15 19:39:48
471.   D4P
Let me guess: you bowl alone...
2008-07-15 19:40:09
472.   Eric Stephen
Or the Justice League

That hurts, Bob.

2008-07-15 19:40:11
473.   Vishal
468 how about the league of extraordinary gentlemen? or 20,000 leagues under the sea?

470 comment of the night

2008-07-15 19:40:29
474.   68elcamino427
Finally a reason to really pay attention.
2008-07-15 19:40:30
475.   Bluebleeder87
give it a ride GG!!
2008-07-15 19:40:32
476.   Who Is Karim Garcia
shut up, Joe Buck.
2008-07-15 19:40:47
477.   Indiana Jon
468 How about the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?
2008-07-15 19:40:55
478.   Eric Stephen
More audible cursing from Russ.
2008-07-15 19:42:11
479.   Indiana Jon
473 Another fast typer.
2008-07-15 19:42:26
480.   Vishal
which stadiums do they sing GBA at?
2008-07-15 19:42:33
481.   Bluebleeder87


2008-07-15 19:43:23
482.   larry slimfast
All Active plays-the-game-the-right-way team (open for debate)


2008-07-15 19:43:31
483.   Uncle Miltie
Camby to the Clippers for a 2nd round pick? Absolute steal!
2008-07-15 19:43:40
484.   Eric Stephen
Stadiums about to die.
2008-07-15 19:43:44
485.   Bob Timmermann
Pretty much every stadium, although the New York teams do it every game.

Blue Jays fans have issues about singing it.

2008-07-15 19:43:51
486.   Bluebleeder87

Russ's mom is NOT amused.

2008-07-15 19:43:54
487.   JJ42
480 i think every game in new york. Other stadiums, like AZ, I think only on sunday games.
2008-07-15 19:44:17
488.   Vishal
482 glaring omission: eckstein
2008-07-15 19:44:49
489.   Eric Stephen
2008-07-15 19:45:21
490.   Who Is Karim Garcia

No Eckstein? But he's a gamer!! And no LoDuca? He's our heart and soul!!!

2008-07-15 19:45:52
491.   JJ42
Joe Buck and Tim McCarver make me appreciate Charley Steiner and Rick Monday
2008-07-15 19:46:49
492.   Vishal
485 i wish they'd pick another patriotic ditty if they were so inclined to add one. i'd say GBA is my least favorite. i'm more of a "america the beautiful" or "my country 'tis of thee" kinda person.
2008-07-15 19:46:59
493.   Indiana Jon
I thought Eckstein at first too, but nobody replaces Jeter, ever, for anything.
2008-07-15 19:48:00
494.   Vishal
did they just call volquez a "cincinnati redskin"?
2008-07-15 19:49:46
495.   Alex41592
Navarro PHing for Varitek.
2008-07-15 19:50:20
496.   Who Is Karim Garcia
So are just assuming that Lincecum got drunk?
2008-07-15 19:50:30
497.   Bob Timmermann
They let Tampa Bay players in the game?
2008-07-15 19:50:30
498.   68elcamino427
O. Vizquel
I. Rodriguez
2008-07-15 19:50:45
499.   Indiana Jon
I've seen Volquez many time this year, and he just doesn't look as good as his stats. I think Texas got a steal in that deal and Volquez will fade in the second half. I've been wrong before though.
2008-07-15 19:51:11
500.   larry slimfast
Jeter plays way more righter than Eck, I stake Jim Tracy's reputation on it. I guess Eck could out-right Kent though.
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2008-07-15 19:51:47
501.   Indiana Jon
I don't know about Lincecum, but Haren looked drunk. He always looks drunk to me.
2008-07-15 19:51:49
502.   Vishal
496 haha, "flu-like symptoms" and "dehydration"? affirmative, i'd say.
2008-07-15 19:52:15
503.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I used to have a MLB video game where Buck was the announcer and hated it for how boring and lifeless the commentary was.

Let me take this time to apologize to that videogame.

2008-07-15 19:52:18
504.   Alex41592
Freaking wicked 2 seamer on the inside corner from Volquez.
2008-07-15 19:52:41
505.   Bob Timmermann
If Drew lives up to the perception people have of him, he will walk in this PA.
2008-07-15 19:52:47
506.   Icaros
So are just assuming that Lincecum got drunk?

I'm picturing Donna Martin on prom night.

2008-07-15 19:52:58
507.   Alex41592
Martin and Navarro in the same frame.
2008-07-15 19:53:08
508.   Vishal
500 well, i think schilling's gotta be your starter. maddux is too much of an "intellectual". can't trust those guys.
2008-07-15 19:53:33
509.   Bluebleeder87

& it had to be Drew.

2008-07-15 19:53:39
510.   Eric Stephen
Holliday loses another MVP award.
2008-07-15 19:53:56
511.   Who Is Karim Garcia

So much for living up to expectations, eh?

2008-07-15 19:54:01
512.   Indiana Jon
499 See what I mean? His second half fade just started.
2008-07-15 19:54:13
513.   Eric Stephen
I was going to go with, "Drew opted that ball out of the ballpark."
2008-07-15 19:54:32
514.   68elcamino427
Drew opts out to right for the home run.
2008-07-15 19:55:12
515.   Bob Timmermann
And now the NL gets to go to war with the likes of Ryan Ludwick, Nate McLouth, and Corey Hart.
2008-07-15 19:55:12
516.   alex 7
and Martin tells his ex-backup to have a seat.
2008-07-15 19:55:23
517.   Vishal
509 what can ya say, the man's just a gamer ;-)
2008-07-15 19:56:09
518.   Bob Timmermann
Extra innings would also prevent there from being a decisive winner in the phony Papelbon-Rivera debate.
2008-07-15 19:56:56
520.   LogikReader
And now the NL gets to go to war with the likes of Ryan Ludwick, Nate McLouth, and Corey Hart.

and THIS is why I hate subbing people out in the middle of the game! "Play to win" my butt!

2008-07-15 19:56:58
521.   Vishal
518 and we all know you're a fan of free baseball.
2008-07-15 19:57:23
522.   Vishal
whoa, where did 519 go?
2008-07-15 19:57:37
523.   LogikReader
that said, I think Hurdle is doing a much better job of playing the best players than Francona so far.
2008-07-15 19:57:53
524.   Bob Timmermann
I'm really just a fan on meaningless catch phrases.

My life is generally pretty empty.

2008-07-15 19:57:56
525.   Bluebleeder87
there was no doubt about it either, line shot.
2008-07-15 19:58:16
526.   alex 7
imagine Dioner in Dodger blue behind the dish and Martin at 3B or SS.

oooh, Dioner and Drew back to back in the All-Star lineup. That's gotta rub Colletti the wrong way.

2008-07-15 19:59:00
527.   Indiana Jon
522 I probably type so slow that I haven't finished it yet.
2008-07-15 19:59:33
528.   Bob Timmermann
What leads you to believe that Martin could be an effective everyday player at 3B or SS?
2008-07-15 19:59:39
529.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I wish all of the starters, besides pitchers, should all go 7 innings or so.
2008-07-15 19:59:44
530.   Alex41592
OPS this season:

Ludwick : .962
McLouth : .899
Hart: .831

Not exactly bums either.

2008-07-15 20:01:08
531.   larry slimfast
Schilling is not really active by my arbitrary standards (he should pitch thru the pain!)... neither is Smoltz, who is my first choice. I like Maddux too much for the team but I couldn't think of another pitcher who really plays the game the right way. Moyer? It's hard to pick a flaky lefty
2008-07-15 20:01:14
532.   Indiana Jon
529 Sometimes the starters aren't the best players. We see this with the Dodgers, but also with All-Star teams.
2008-07-15 20:01:57
533.   Alex41592
Yankee fans are all over Paps.
2008-07-15 20:03:06
534.   Alex41592
Lets see if the baseball gods redeem the Padres. Navarro puts the N.L within 90 feet of the lead.
2008-07-15 20:03:22
535.   Vishal
haha! take that, paps.

assist to navarro.

2008-07-15 20:03:32
536.   Bluebleeder87
oh yes!

Perfectly executed...

2008-07-15 20:03:38
537.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I really don't like Papelbum.
2008-07-15 20:03:48
538.   Vishal
535 though, to be fair, i have paps on my fantasy team and don't dislike the guy.
2008-07-15 20:03:52
539.   Alex41592
534 - Yes they do. Unearned run and the N.L takes the lead.
2008-07-15 20:05:11
540.   Alex41592
Uh oh. Brian Wilson is up.
2008-07-15 20:07:43
541.   Greg Brock
It's so unbelievably easy to hate Yankees fans.

When you make me root for Papelbon, you've really accomplished something.

2008-07-15 20:08:08
542.   Vishal
532 one of the fews ways in which the dodger lineup resembles an all-star team :)

531 ooh ooh, how about mark buehrle? white, doesn't strike out a lot of dudes, is statistically underwhelming, but seems to get results and is well-regarded.

2008-07-15 20:08:30
543.   Bluebleeder87
Brian Wilson's Wiki page makes him look pedestrian but I guess he's put it all together this year.
2008-07-15 20:09:33
544.   alex 7
re: 528 I just asked you to imagine it, Bob! It's fun, try it! If you can picture Berroa going deep in the hole and gunning someone out, you can picture Martin and his 4-foot range out there.
2008-07-15 20:12:45
545.   Vishal
another reason not to like wilson: that hideous soul patch.
2008-07-15 20:12:55
546.   still bevens
So who is closing this out? Wagner?
2008-07-15 20:13:06
547.   Eric Stephen
Martin dues up 5th in the 9th.
2008-07-15 20:13:43
548.   Alex41592
546 - Wagner will pitch to Sizemore and Lidge will pitch the 9th.
2008-07-15 20:13:43
549.   Travis08
546 Lidge.
2008-07-15 20:14:00
550.   The Trolley Dodger
Funny moment with Bradley, Drew, and Navarro on the bench in the same shot.
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2008-07-15 20:14:50
551.   Bluebleeder87
I hope Lidge closes it out, when he's right he is fun to watch.
2008-07-15 20:18:27
552.   Eric Stephen
I want the NL to win; Rivera will have a nice moment whether its a save situation or not.
2008-07-15 20:19:06
553.   Telemachos
Evan Longoria: .275/.348/.861, 16 HRs, 53 RBIs, 6 SB
Matt Kemp: .284/.337/.814, 9 HRs, 51 RBIs, 22 SBs

Not too bad.

2008-07-15 20:19:13
554.   LogikReader
Putting in Wagner is asking for trouble...
2008-07-15 20:19:57
555.   Bluebleeder87
it would be cool if Russell hits the dinger to break the tie.
2008-07-15 20:20:09
556.   LogikReader
-- bear in mind I wrote that BEFORE the Longoria double. Hurdle, you made your first mistake of the night. This is ridiculous!
2008-07-15 20:20:19
557.   Alex41592
Oh Mets fans I feel your pain.
2008-07-15 20:20:28
558.   Eric Stephen
Yes! A 1u!!!!
2008-07-15 20:20:36
559.   Greg Brock
Chucking poo up there?

You are Billy Wagner, man. Throw a hundred miles an hour!

2008-07-15 20:21:41
560.   Vishal
blah. good for evan longoria, but blah.
2008-07-15 20:21:45
561.   JJ42
553 send those stats to the LA sports media
2008-07-15 20:22:03
562.   still bevens
555 Won't McCann come in or is he the 'in case of emergency break glass' catcher?
2008-07-15 20:22:06
563.   Eric Stephen
Are we really so analytical that we're questioning strategy decisions in an exhibition game?

OK, don't answer that. :)

2008-07-15 20:22:57
564.   LogikReader
Not to be snark, but how did Wagner even gain enough worth to be in the all star game? Is this the Mets' lone rep?
2008-07-15 20:23:05
565.   Eric Stephen
Wagner's trying to lose weight, laying off the cheese.
2008-07-15 20:23:05
566.   still bevens
553 Didn't Longoria wallow in AAA for about a month? His numbers would be more robust if he were in the majors the whole season like MK.
2008-07-15 20:23:38
567.   Fallout
McCarver shut up. Just fair??? only by 10-12 ft.
2008-07-15 20:23:40
568.   Vishal
i hate k-rod and his squat.
2008-07-15 20:24:54
569.   thinkblue88

I hope he blows the lead.

2008-07-15 20:25:19
570.   Alex41592
562 - McCann will probably bat in Martin's place. If somehow McCann were to get hurt you CAN sub in a catcher that has already been taken out in the All-Star game.
2008-07-15 20:26:10
571.   Travis08
564 Wagner was the Mets' lone rep before David Wright made the team as an injury replacement. Wright, Reyes, Beltran, or Santana would have been much better choices.
2008-07-15 20:26:42
572.   alex 7
New motto for Iraq: change your tv, change your life!
2008-07-15 20:27:35
573.   LogikReader

My feeling is, if they really want the All Star game to count, I would prefer they manage the game like an actual playoff game.

You can't have it both ways, is all.

Part two: why don't we just give WS home field to the team with the best reg season record? Too obvious?

2008-07-15 20:27:59
574.   Greg Brock
I hope he gets lit up like a pinball machine that pays out in silver dollars.
2008-07-15 20:28:12
575.   alex 7
if this were Family Guy, Rivera would give up back-to-back doubles, a homerun, hit a guy, then run off the field crying.
2008-07-15 20:28:13
576.   Eric Stephen
Maybe it was Wagner's 2.31 ERA, or his opponents' line of .193/.239/.310. Or maybe its because he's one of the greatest relivers of all time. He's had an ERA above 2.85 once in 13 seasons, and that was an injury-shortened year.
2008-07-15 20:28:27
577.   Vishal
571 how is johan santana not an all-star??!
2008-07-15 20:28:47
578.   thinkblue88
Thank God they took him out, glad I didn't have to see him do cartwheels and jumping jacks on the mound.
2008-07-15 20:29:18
579.   Eric Stephen
Way to cut away Fox. We could have seen most of Rivera's entrance and subsequent standing ovation.
2008-07-15 20:30:27
580.   Louis in SF
How about a steal here by Guzman. Who plays 3rd in the 9th Tejadah or Guzman or Russell?
2008-07-15 20:31:13
581.   Bluebleeder87
Selig's experiment isn't working I really hope they make it like it was. 573 I'd give it to the team with the worst reg season record but that made it to the playoffs.

everybody likes the underdog is my reasoning.

2008-07-15 20:32:31
582.   Bluebleeder87
what a bad call by the ump the runner was safe...
2008-07-15 20:32:53
583.   Vishal
didn't guzman look safe?
2008-07-15 20:34:11
584.   Icaros
I'm still processing the fact that Guzman is actually an All-Star.
2008-07-15 20:34:15
585.   Alex41592
He was out.
2008-07-15 20:34:19
586.   Eric Stephen
Pipe down Marge, the mob has spoken.


2008-07-15 20:35:30
587.   Fallout
Navarro was the goat until he threw out that guy.
2008-07-15 20:35:41
588.   Alex41592
Ryan Dempster is in because it's not a save situation.
2008-07-15 20:36:03
589.   Greg Brock
Have no fear...It's Ryan Dempster!
2008-07-15 20:36:49
590.   68elcamino427
Ump is enjoying his All- Star TV moment with the dramatic "Yer OUt!".
Wasn't Vin just lamenting such outbursts?
2008-07-15 20:37:53
591.   Eric Stephen
Back to back old friends.
2008-07-15 20:38:33
592.   Alex41592
Guzman playing out of position at third. And an all Canadian battery.
2008-07-15 20:40:18
593.   Eric Stephen
It's probably MVP claimin' time.
2008-07-15 20:40:25
594.   Indiana Jon
What's with the glove movement by Dempster?
2008-07-15 20:41:19
595.   Icaros

It's irritating.

2008-07-15 20:41:21
596.   68elcamino427
Drew plan - Low and away - repeat until strikes out looking.
2008-07-15 20:42:10
597.   Eric Stephen
...for Russell Martin, due up 2nd for the NL in the 10th!
2008-07-15 20:42:21
598.   Indiana Jon
596 Great call!
2008-07-15 20:42:59
599.   Greg Brock
596 Nice call.

It certainly brings back the occasional memory.

Still, you suck, Colletti.

2008-07-15 20:44:05
600.   Fallout
This plate umpire is pretty good. Who is he?
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2008-07-15 20:45:17
601.   Indiana Jon
Was Rich Harden an All-Star before he was traded?
2008-07-15 20:45:48
602.   thinkblue88

What about CC?

2008-07-15 20:46:03
603.   Indiana Jon
Martin in the on deck circle. Is something wrong with McCann?
2008-07-15 20:46:28
604.   Alex41592
601/602 - Neither was an All-Star this season.
2008-07-15 20:47:00
605.   Alex41592
603 - McCann got hit on the hand in San Diego on Sunday. So, he may not play.
2008-07-15 20:47:40
606.   Marty
I'd love to see Selig declare a tie again.
2008-07-15 20:47:47
607.   thinkblue88
2008-07-15 20:48:10
608.   Indiana Jon
604 Hard to believe Harden wasn't one of the best starters in the AL.
2008-07-15 20:48:23
609.   Alex41592
Russell Martin gets to face Mariano Rivera in Yankee Stadium. That's awesome.
2008-07-15 20:50:09
610.   Greg Brock
Battle by the Golden God.
2008-07-15 20:50:57
611.   Gagne55
609 and a base hit
2008-07-15 20:50:58
612.   Eric Stephen
2008-07-15 20:50:58
613.   Indiana Jon
Nice at bat Russ.
2008-07-15 20:51:01
614.   Greg Brock
You da man, Russ!
2008-07-15 20:51:03
615.   thinkblue88
Golden God!!!
2008-07-15 20:51:04
616.   Bluebleeder87
gawd I love Russell!
2008-07-15 20:51:07
617.   Landonkk
Nice AB, Russ!!!
2008-07-15 20:51:19
618.   kachang
2008-07-15 20:51:41
619.   Alex41592
What a tremendous moment. I don't care who wins anymore.
2008-07-15 20:51:41
620.   68elcamino427
Russell Martin - forcing compliments from the "announcers".
2008-07-15 20:52:05
621.   Gagne55
I remember Tejada winning the MVP.
2008-07-15 20:52:16
622.   thinkblue88
yessss!!!!!!! GOLDEN GOD!!!
2008-07-15 20:52:28
623.   Greg Brock



2008-07-15 20:52:30
624.   underdog
That was a great at bat by Russ. Even Joe Buck agreed! Sweet, sweet at bat.

Now let's score the go ahead run, Golden God.

2008-07-15 20:52:42
625.   Eric Stephen
Russ takes MVP when he steals home.
2008-07-15 20:52:43
626.   Alex41592
2008-07-15 20:53:22
627.   Gagne55
2008-07-15 20:53:52
628.   Greg Brock
I guess we don't squeeze in the all star game.
2008-07-15 20:53:57
629.   overkill94
Stupid Uggla, now Martin's going to have to catch like 10 innings during what was supposed to be a nice few days of near-rest
2008-07-15 20:54:25
630.   Indiana Jon
That's OK. Russell will get em in the 12th.
2008-07-15 20:55:35
631.   underdog
Ugh. Ugh-la. And what was Tejada doing there -- gonna head back to first Miguel?
2008-07-15 20:56:10
632.   underdog
Actually, they should probably bring McCann in soon, to give him his shot.
2008-07-15 20:56:42
633.   Eric Stephen
Not Uggla's inning.
2008-07-15 20:56:50
634.   Landonkk
Ugh-gla on tilt
2008-07-15 20:56:51
635.   Gagne55
This inning is getting Uggla for the NL.
2008-07-15 20:57:02
636.   Alex41592
Uggla must translate to goat somewhere.
2008-07-15 20:57:06
637.   Icaros
Was that owl or goat?
2008-07-15 20:57:08
638.   68elcamino427
2008-07-15 20:57:11
639.   Greg Brock
You ain't got no alibi.
2008-07-15 20:57:35
640.   Eric Stephen
Uggla wrapped up the MVP.
2008-07-15 20:57:36
641.   Vishal
i hate the AL
2008-07-15 20:57:37
642.   Gagne55
Right under the glove of Uggla.
2008-07-15 20:57:40
643.   underdog
Ah, I didn't see 605 til now. Hmm. Hope this one doesn't go too much longer. Would hate to see Russ have to catch all those innings in this fairly meaningless game. But another at bat would be nice.
2008-07-15 20:57:46
644.   68elcamino427
2008-07-15 20:57:47
645.   Indiana Jon
Uggla is not the MVP. Kent could have made those plays.
2008-07-15 20:57:47
646.   overkill94
2008-07-15 20:57:50
647.   Greg Brock
Step into my office, Dan.

Because you are fired.

2008-07-15 20:58:00
648.   Alex41592
Uggla. Uggla. Uggla. A.L 11 straight next on Fox.
2008-07-15 20:58:05
649.   Icaros
Wow. Just a total meltdown.
2008-07-15 20:58:44
650.   68elcamino427
Hurdle's coming out to get Uggla.
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2008-07-15 20:58:48
651.   Pepperdine
Southwest should get Dan Uggla to be their new spokesman.

"Wanna Get Away?"

2008-07-15 20:59:24
652.   Indiana Jon
They should have moved Guzman to 2nd and Russ to 3rd.
2008-07-15 20:59:32
653.   Tangled Up in Blue
Well that was fun...
2008-07-15 20:59:32
654.   Greg Brock
If this was feudal Japan, Uggla would do the right thing.
2008-07-15 20:59:33
655.   overkill94
Wouldn't it be wise to bring in someone like Lidge here and hope for the strikeout?
2008-07-15 20:59:33
656.   Tangled Up in Blue
Well that was fun...
2008-07-15 20:59:47
657.   Bob Timmermann
2008-07-15 20:59:49
658.   Gagne55
651 I literally lol'd at that.
2008-07-15 20:59:52
659.   Icaros
I had a coach in high school pull our CF mid-inning for letting a grounder get past him.
2008-07-15 21:00:06
660.   larry slimfast
Trade Uggla for a bag of sanitary socks! to LA
2008-07-15 21:00:29
661.   underdog
Poor Joe Schlabotnick. I mean, Uggla. I feel sorry for him. Er, I would feel sorrier if his stupid team hadn't just taken 3 outta 4 in LA.
2008-07-15 21:00:30
662.   Tangled Up in Blue
walk off grand slam?
2008-07-15 21:00:33
663.   Indiana Jon
They should at least go to Marmol. They need strikeouts.
2008-07-15 21:02:21
664.   Alex41592
EEK. Martin almost through that away.
2008-07-15 21:02:29
665.   Landonkk
whew.. russ slipped on that throw. could have been bad.
2008-07-15 21:03:01
666.   Greg Brock
You are a mess, Dan Uggla.

Hurry up!

2008-07-15 21:03:39
667.   Alex41592
Aaron Cook is a sinker baller and he's been great in this inning.
2008-07-15 21:04:11
668.   Landonkk
gotta give props to cook here
2008-07-15 21:04:41
669.   underdog
That was remarkable. Major props for Cook for getting out of that uggla mess.
2008-07-15 21:04:43
670.   Alex41592
2008-07-15 21:04:43
671.   Icaros
What an escape.
2008-07-15 21:05:24
672.   underdog
And Carlos Quentin with a pathetic attempt to take out Martin almost hurt himself instead.
2008-07-15 21:05:39
673.   Greg Brock
Everybody head upstairs for the new inning!
2008-07-15 21:10:14
674.   Louis in SF
Tony jackson just got the story on Saito. Strained ligament he is out for 6 weeks and then will be revaluated. Saito going on the DL Friday and the Dodgers will make a move.
2008-07-15 21:11:28
675.   Vishal
woulda been really funny if the game was won on a cristian guzman homer.
2008-07-15 21:14:18
676.   Landonkk
crappy news on Saito. The Brox closer period officially begins.
2008-07-15 21:22:44
677.   Icaros
Holy crap!
2008-07-15 21:28:54
678.   underdog
Can't say our boy hasn't been in the center of action over the last few innings, hoo boy!
2008-07-15 21:30:04
679.   underdog
Strained ligament is actually a bit better than I feared. I was worried about torn tendon or TJ surgery... so, could be worse.

That was a great grab and tag by Russell, even if it was possible Navarro slid under first. You have to call 'em out on that one though.

2008-07-15 21:33:45
680.   fanerman
674 It seems that the "move" T-Jax refers to an internal move the Dodgers will make (to replace Saito on the roster) and not necessarily a trade.
2008-07-15 21:37:49
681.   underdog
NPUT reminder.
2008-07-15 21:42:44
682.   alex 7
he's a magician, says the announcer.
2008-07-15 21:46:34
683.   alex 7
does Selig not enjoy baseball? seriously.

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