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Gem Webb
2008-07-20 11:50
by Jon Weisman

In 52 innings over the past three seasons against the Dodgers, Brandon Webb has allowed seven runs (1.21 ERA) on 44 hits and 13 walks. He has started seven games, and he is 7-0.

Trivia: Who hit the only Dodger home run in that span? The starting lineup for that game will stir some memories, or embers, or members ...

* * *

Dodgers at Diamondbacks, 1:10 p.m.

Comments (256)
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2008-07-20 11:54:53
1.   Bob Timmermann
That trivia question is the equivalent of yelling "LaRoche!" at a crowded third base position.
2008-07-20 11:56:26
2.   JoeyP
Today has to be a record for most posts in one day.

The count is at 7, and still plenty of day left.

2008-07-20 11:56:37
3.   Greg Brock
Ooh, ooh, I know this one!
2008-07-20 11:56:57
4.   Jon Weisman
1 - That's what I get for asking it before looking up the answer.

Comedy is tragedy plus time ...

2008-07-20 11:59:14
5.   Bob Timmermann
Just for that trivia question, I include this link:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics27/00063396.jpg

2008-07-20 12:04:43
6.   Alex41592
Nomar's line lifetime vs. Brandon Webb:

.000/.000/.000/.000 17 P.A's

2008-07-20 12:07:21
7.   KG16
according to the preview on the gameday link, the answer is Jeff Kent. As he's the only guy on the Dodgers with a home run against Webb since 2003.
2008-07-20 12:08:48
8.   D4P
Late lineup today.
2008-07-20 12:09:09
9.   Andrew Shimmin
I wonder how Jason Phillips is getting by on the AAA salary, when he was hand to mouth with the big league one.
2008-07-20 12:10:15
10.   Greg Brock
Wow, I thought I knew that one.

I did not.

2008-07-20 12:10:27
11.   Andrew Shimmin
Kent is the only active Dodger with a home run against him.
2008-07-20 12:13:00
12.   Andrew Shimmin
Phillips didn't hit the home run. Bob was just causing trouble. If he annoys people at work, he doesn't get promoted, so he exhausts his irritation reservoir on the internet.
2008-07-20 12:13:18
13.   KG16
11 - ah, well that's what i get for not really caring.
2008-07-20 12:13:22
14.   Ken Noe
RF Kemp
LF Ethier
C Martin
2B Kent
SS Garciaparra
1B Loney
CF Jones
3B DeWitt
RH Lowe
2008-07-20 12:13:54
15.   Jon Weisman
11 - And Kent's wasn't a Dodger home run ...
2008-07-20 12:14:33
16.   D4P
11
Rule 6 violation!
2008-07-20 12:14:49
17.   Greg Brock
My third guess was correct.

I guess that's something.

2008-07-20 12:15:05
18.   underdog
Now that the Brewers have acquired Ray Durham (woopdedoo), might Bill Hall be available? I wonder.
2008-07-20 12:16:11
19.   D4P
17
Third time's a Ch-rm.
2008-07-20 12:16:14
20.   JoeyP
Torre didnt really stick with his Nomar leading off idea for very long.
2008-07-20 12:16:16
21.   Bob Timmermann
Jayson Werth and Cody Ross are facing off against each other in a game of Dodger Revisionist Derby!
2008-07-20 12:17:23
22.   D4P
Bill Hall sucks.
2008-07-20 12:17:29
23.   Greg Brock
The trivia answer has a better OPS+ than Garret Anderson!

The mind...She is boggled!

2008-07-20 12:18:41
24.   underdog
Choi to the world!

Hey, Mark Sweeney has a HR vs. Webb, too. Maybe we should've reactivated him today after all.

2008-07-20 12:18:45
25.   kinbote
WWJDT?

(What will Jones do today?)

2008-07-20 12:19:52
26.   Alex41592
If we're counting 2005 Hee Seop Choi September 21st, 2005. Is that the past three seasons though?
2008-07-20 12:20:53
27.   Greg Brock
25 He's going to go three for five

"Show me...THREE FOR FIVE!"...

[X]

2008-07-20 12:21:05
28.   underdog
22 A near-800 career OPS sucks? He has 12 dingers this year in a "down year". Wouldn't we take that off the bench? If had fairly cheaply? Just sayin'.
2008-07-20 12:22:25
29.   underdog
(Not saying he's great, btw, just has some pop, would strengthen a weak bench...)
2008-07-20 12:23:06
30.   D4P
28
He had a career year in a contract year in 2006, and has OPS+ed under 90 ever since. Not to mention his career .316 OBP, which includes .292 in 2008.
2008-07-20 12:23:35
31.   JoeyP
21--Cody Ross hit his 16th HR to tie the game in the 8th.
2008-07-20 12:24:14
32.   underdog
What if we traded them Juan Pierre for him? Hmmmm?
2008-07-20 12:25:36
33.   oshea2002
Beltre IMO would be a clear and sizeable upgrade over DeWitt. Hall wouldn't be in my opinion.
2008-07-20 12:27:22
34.   old dodger fan
In the, "There is hope" department Brandon Webb has a 2.48 ERA on the road and 4.28 at home this year.
On 6/11 his ERA was 2.54. Since then he has had 6 starts and given up 20 ER's in 35 IP and seen his ERA go up to 3.23.
That said, I think we will be fortunate to score 4 runs today.

Yesterday after reading the comments about how bad Jones has looked and his leaving the game early the day before I wondered if he had some really serious ailment and was headed for the DL. Now I read that he is starting today. How much longer can Joe stick with this guy?

2008-07-20 12:28:28
35.   Bob Timmermann
Scott Baker of the Twins retired the first 17 Rangers today, but then gave up a solo homer to Taylor Teagarden and the Rangers lead 1-0.
2008-07-20 12:30:00
36.   Andrew Shimmin
If the photoshop had been Carcetti with his arm around Jason Phillips, Royce would have won the election.
2008-07-20 12:31:07
37.   oshea2002
Today will be tough, the first 6 guys in the lineup are gonna really have to produce, I expect Lowe to pitch well, maybe 2 or 3 runs gets it done today.
2008-07-20 12:32:10
38.   JoeyP
Beltre's walk rate this year is well above his career averages. 40bbs/59ks in 359Abs.

Beltre's career: .271/.327/.458
Beltre in 2008: .262/.334/.440

If the Dodgers can get him back, put LaRoche at 2nd base--> that wouldnt be too bad for 2009.

Beltre just 1 yr left on his deal, at 12 mils for 2009.

2008-07-20 12:32:37
39.   Bob Timmermann
The Yankees just got a 9-5-6 forceout at second.
2008-07-20 12:33:11
40.   KG16
39 - huh, that's not something you see everyday
2008-07-20 12:33:18
41.   larry slimfast
Yanks with a 9-5-6 force at second.
2008-07-20 12:35:06
42.   larry slimfast
39 oops, davis who hit into that FC thrown out at 2nd for the final out of the game
2008-07-20 12:35:06
43.   Greg Brock
Beltre would probably kill to get out of Seattle.

That yard kills his numbers.

2008-07-20 12:35:13
44.   natepurcell
Why has Rickie Weeks not become awesome?
2008-07-20 12:36:33
45.   Bob Timmermann
Davis was actually pinch running for Crosby.
2008-07-20 12:37:28
46.   Bob Timmermann
The Nats have 14 runs today in Atlanta.

And it's just the 5th inning! Jesus Flores is already 4 for 4.

2008-07-20 12:38:55
47.   larry slimfast
i quit.
2008-07-20 12:39:39
48.   Greg Brock
44 It's crazy. I have to believe the hand injuries are still messing him up.
2008-07-20 12:39:48
49.   Bob Timmermann
47
Sorry, I'm feeling extra pedantic today.
2008-07-20 12:39:59
50.   JoeyP
44--> Because he's a slappy.

Weeks career SLG: .401

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2008-07-20 12:41:08
51.   Bob Timmermann
Keeping with the theme of the trivia question....

The Padres have taken a 3-1 lead in St. Louis on a 2-run homer by Cha Seung Baek.

2008-07-20 12:41:22
52.   kinbote
44 Ditto Delmon Young. Remember that draft debate?
2008-07-20 12:41:27
53.   natepurcell
48

I wonder if he is still in the future plans for the Brewers? I always thought Hardy was going to be the one that gets traded but maybe its Weeks now with them going with a MIF of Escobar and Hardy.

2008-07-20 12:42:05
54.   natepurcell
50

Look at his pedigree and his minor league numbers. This guy was suppose to be Gary Sheffield at 2b.

2008-07-20 12:43:05
55.   D4P
51
Is the theme "Korean baseball players," "DePo acquisitions," or "Korean DePo acquisitions"...?
2008-07-20 12:44:05
56.   Greg Brock
I would buy low on Weeks in a heartbeat. He's still like 26 or 27.

He's another guy, like LaRoche, about whom people will say "He finally figured it out!" when it'll just be a case of staying on the field.

2008-07-20 12:45:13
57.   natepurcell
I would probably explore a Penny for Weeks trade in the offseason if the Dodgers don't feel that one of Laroche/Dewitt can play 2b full time.

Could work out for both teams.

2008-07-20 12:45:47
58.   oshea2002
1990 SC v. UCLA on FSN Prime right now, the best part is coming up
2008-07-20 12:46:34
59.   Alex41592
Chris Snyder is back from his horrible injury and in the lineup for the D'Backs.
2008-07-20 12:46:51
60.   Eric Enders
I would trade LaRoche for Weeks in a heartbeat. And I love LaRoche.
2008-07-20 12:46:56
61.   Andrew Shimmin
Villaraigosa is wearing a jersey with the number 5, in the pick Bob posted (it's visible in this picture: http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics27/00063398.jpg). That number belonged to Ch-i, that year.
2008-07-20 12:47:29
62.   oshea2002
57 - How about a Penny for Hardy type deal
2008-07-20 12:47:42
63.   Jon Weisman
For those who haven't looked, here's the Dodger starting lineup vs. Brandon Webb on 9/21/05:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI200509210.shtml

Aybar, 3B (4 for 4)
Choi, 1B (1 for 4, two-run HR, 2 GIDP)
Robles, SS (0 for 4)
Cruz, RF (2 for 4)
Perez, 2B (1 for 4)
Phillips, C (0 for 3, 2 GIDP)
Werth, LF (0 for 3, 3K)
Repko, CF (0 for 3)
Penny, P (replaced after four batters)

Webb went 7 2/3 innings, allowed nine hits (eight singles), walked zero, struck out 11, induced four double plays.

2008-07-20 12:47:45
64.   Bob Timmermann
58
That was the last time I ever got really upset about the result of a sporting event.

I walked home from the Rose Bowl that day.

I didn't really live that far from the Rose Bowl back in 1990, so it was a protest that involved very little effort on my part.

2008-07-20 12:47:52
65.   natepurcell
60

I think the Brewers are going to look for pitching somehow after losing CC and Sheets in the offseason.

2008-07-20 12:48:09
66.   Alex41592
Tony Clark is also in the lineup and batting cleanup. Chad Tracy is benched.
2008-07-20 12:48:31
67.   Bob Timmermann
61
Villaraigosa is actually wearing 05.
2008-07-20 12:50:22
68.   D4P
Tony Clark is also in the lineup and batting cleanup

It's almost as if anyone could be a major league manager.

2008-07-20 12:50:30
69.   Bob Timmermann
Odalis is out in Atlanta after five innings and giving up 9 hits and five runs. But the Nats lead 14-5.

Somehow, I don't think this game balances the books for him.

2008-07-20 12:51:21
70.   Bob Timmermann
Yellow alert for Austin Kearns in Atlanta. This is a yellow alert.
2008-07-20 12:52:00
71.   D4P
70
Does the color of the alert ever change from the first sentence to the second...?
2008-07-20 12:52:14
72.   Greg Brock
Rickie Weeks is 25 years old.

We don't acquire players at that age. We give up on them.

We acquire 35 year old players.

2008-07-20 12:52:26
73.   natepurcell
How about a Penny for Hardy type deal

Depending on how Penny comes in the second half, value probably won't match up for the Brewers. Hardy's having a really good year.

2008-07-20 12:52:26
74.   oshea2002
64 - last time I was really upset was leaving that same stadium after the game v. Texas. I was out of town for the 06 ucla and 07 Stanford debacles.
2008-07-20 12:52:27
75.   JoeyP
I'd never do a LaRoche for Weeks deal.

Weeks has had one good stretch in his entire career (203 Abs as a 22yr old in AAA).

LaRoche, at least to this point, has not proven he's mediocre quite like Weeks has.

2008-07-20 12:53:46
76.   the count
It's possible that Milwaukee has realized that Weeks is a CF playing 2B. Maybe they plan for Weeks to take over for Cameron next season.
2008-07-20 12:53:59
77.   Bob Timmermann
74
My reaction in 06 was "How in the world did that happen? That UCLA team was terrible!"
2008-07-20 12:54:22
78.   oshea2002
73 - probably true, but they may be desperate after CC and Sheets walk.
2008-07-20 12:55:59
79.   underdog
Ok forget stupid bill hall. Aim high - how much for Weeks? Maybe when penny comes back...
2008-07-20 13:00:11
80.   underdog
Stupid me posting from cell phone, a fruitless exercise.

Hey Mad Men marathon on all day.

2008-07-20 13:03:00
81.   Bob Timmermann
Hey Mad Men marathon on all day.

So why is Peggy putting on all that weight?

2008-07-20 13:03:24
82.   bleedsblue
Any chance we could get Dustin Pedroia?
2008-07-20 13:08:25
83.   underdog
81 - tee hee. Is that revenge for the Halladay nephew joke?

Oh man, i do have a bit of a crush on her.

2008-07-20 13:09:16
84.   Gen3Blue
Looks like no DTV, although why I don't know as Arizona seems to be carried on a FSN today. Gameday may have to do, and actually might be a blessing with Webb.
2008-07-20 13:09:45
85.   D4P
83
What is "Hey Mad Men"...?
2008-07-20 13:11:55
86.   Greg Brock
Still a decent AB.
2008-07-20 13:12:05
87.   bleedsblue
A disciplined Kemp there. He's improving there.
2008-07-20 13:12:17
88.   natepurcell
That was a good AB by Kemp even the result wasn't that good.
2008-07-20 13:12:17
89.   Bob Timmermann
The D-Backs are going with their third different uni combo in this series.

And none of them are very good.

2008-07-20 13:13:15
90.   natepurcell
89

I don't mind Grace in comparison to all their other ones. Only because he makes me laugh with his manlove over Broxton.

2008-07-20 13:13:15
91.   Bob Timmermann
The Marlins win the Revisionist Derby 3-2.
2008-07-20 13:13:26
92.   underdog
It's a show you watch when typing from a cell phone. Or was that your Xei impression?
2008-07-20 13:13:45
93.   Bob Timmermann
I'm not sure how 90 follows 89.
2008-07-20 13:14:29
94.   Greg Brock
And a nice AB by Ethier.
2008-07-20 13:14:36
95.   Eric Enders
Over/under on ground ball outs today: 32.
2008-07-20 13:15:13
96.   Alex41592
93 - You're talking uniforms, he's talking announcers.
2008-07-20 13:16:08
97.   natepurcell
90

I thought somehow you said announcing combo.

Don't mind me...

2008-07-20 13:16:31
98.   Alex41592
3 batters, 20 pitches.
2008-07-20 13:17:24
99.   Bob Timmermann
97
I hope Daron Sutton has changed his clothes for each game.
2008-07-20 13:17:26
100.   Eric Enders
89 Last night's black jerseys were about as non-crappy as it's possible for a black jersey to be.
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2008-07-20 13:17:43
101.   Jon Weisman
18 pitches - not bad
2008-07-20 13:17:56
102.   Greg Brock
98 Which is only going to make Nomar's two pitch AB next inning that much more bothersome.
2008-07-20 13:21:02
103.   Eric Enders
There's still hope for the Timmermann/Enders Accord if Bob can see the light on Joe Garagiola. Last night was one gigantic back-in-my-day fest.

And I'm starting to sour on Daron Sutton. He umpires in the booth, which is one thing, but he's a lousy umpire. He calls James Loney "Matt Kemp." He thinks Orlando Hudson should have made the All-Star Team over Chase Utley and Dan Uggla. He uses the phrase "that man" about 15 times more per game than he should.

2008-07-20 13:21:19
104.   Bob Timmermann
I guess I picked the wrong day to quit smoking.
2008-07-20 13:22:05
105.   Greg Brock
Hudson is a free agent after this year, correct?
2008-07-20 13:22:24
106.   Tripon
Did that pitch hit Stephen Drew?
2008-07-20 13:22:34
107.   KG16
104 - every day is the wrong day to quit smoking
2008-07-20 13:23:02
108.   Alex41592
105 - Yes.
2008-07-20 13:24:28
109.   natepurcell
You are just starting to sour on Daron Sutton?

That guy is a complete tool and takes homerism in announcing to new levels I thought could never be reached.

2008-07-20 13:24:29
110.   Xeifrank
6.2 total runs today would put this series at the simulators predicted over/under for the three games. Think we are going over or under?
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 13:24:41
111.   Eric Enders
Nomar, you dolt.
2008-07-20 13:24:47
112.   KG16
fielding brought to you by the Bad News Bears
2008-07-20 13:24:53
113.   Doctor
Lowe always seems to fold in big games (for the Dodgers that is).
2008-07-20 13:24:59
114.   Greg Brock
If the Mets hadn't made that atrocious Luis Castillo signing, Hudson would be perfect for that team. At least they're out of the running.

As an aside, I really wish Gameday showed OBP.

Oh come on.

2008-07-20 13:25:28
115.   Jon Weisman
Garciaparra and Kent bungled the rundown.
2008-07-20 13:26:09
116.   Greg Brock
I hate it when kids make mental errors.
2008-07-20 13:26:42
117.   bleedsblue
Ok, can we just have a do-over?
2008-07-20 13:27:16
118.   berkowit28
I hope Kuo is getting ready soon.
2008-07-20 13:27:17
119.   Ken Noe
116 If only Kemp would listen to the veterans.
2008-07-20 13:27:53
120.   natepurcell
Is Lowe staring his annual August swoon early?
2008-07-20 13:27:59
121.   Alex41592
It's getting late early out there.
2008-07-20 13:28:07
122.   Eric Enders
At least we have a left fielder who can throw. (Take note, Mr. Lazy CF who screwed up the throw on the previous hit.)
2008-07-20 13:28:21
123.   Bob Timmermann
It's going to be a very long day.
2008-07-20 13:28:30
124.   KG16
nice play by Ethier-DeWitt there at third. not really stopping the bleeding, but, still, could have been worse.
2008-07-20 13:32:17
125.   underdog
Good news: My internet connection came back up just in time to catch most of this half-inning.

Bad news: See above.

2008-07-20 13:32:35
126.   D4P
Lowe has topped out at 89 MPH thus far.
2008-07-20 13:33:14
127.   underdog
I don't understand why Dodger starters have been so bad in the first inning this series. Just one of those things, I guess.
2008-07-20 13:33:46
128.   Greg Brock
Please just take a ton of pitches and get Webb out of there by the sixth.
2008-07-20 13:35:06
129.   Alex41592
127 - Well it's also been poor defense behind them as well.
2008-07-20 13:35:47
130.   Eric Enders
128 Jeff Kent thumbs his nose at you.
2008-07-20 13:36:14
131.   Xeifrank
Fangraphs WE: 23%
Simulator WE: 21.1%
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 13:36:17
132.   underdog
I enjoy Mark Grace, too, even though he's also a homer. But Sutton's just a dork, for reasons Eric E listed above. I guess he's less offensive than Thom Brenneman was/is.
2008-07-20 13:36:27
133.   oshea2002
Kent has become a liability
2008-07-20 13:36:35
134.   natepurcell
DP here? Odds are at 80%...
2008-07-20 13:36:59
135.   oshea2002
I know nothing about Osuna, I assume he's a small upgrade over Maza though?
2008-07-20 13:37:08
136.   Bob Timmermann
People who are not less offensive than Thom Brennaman:
1)
2)
3)
4)
2008-07-20 13:37:21
137.   underdog
Well, there's that two pitch at bat Greg was expecting, though I'll take the hit.

129 - True. I don't know why their defense has been so porous early, too.

2008-07-20 13:38:17
138.   underdog
136 - We're not including former members of the Gestapo, and various celebutantes though, right?
2008-07-20 13:38:49
139.   Sammy Maudlin
Perhaps Lowe can add Arizona to the parks he needs to avoid pitching in.
2008-07-20 13:38:50
140.   Greg Brock
Realistically, you need three hits in an inning to score a run off Webb.
2008-07-20 13:39:19
141.   underdog
135 - Yes, a small unexciting upgrade over Maza.
2008-07-20 13:39:35
142.   Ken Noe
Gurnick: Sweeney's "ready" according to Torre, Ned's trying to deal for a "run-producing third baseman."

http://tinyurl.com/5weamn

2008-07-20 13:39:36
143.   oshea2002
Interesting camera work there...
2008-07-20 13:40:10
144.   underdog
Loney could've ripped that pitch if he wasn't taken. (The one before he ripped that pitch foul.)
2008-07-20 13:40:23
145.   Eric Enders
So far every at-bat by a young player has been patient with a good plan at the plate, while every at-bat by a veteran has been hacktastic.
2008-07-20 13:40:43
146.   underdog
Er, that 2nd strike, is what I meant.
2008-07-20 13:40:44
147.   natepurcell
I win! But the Dodgers lose :(
2008-07-20 13:40:52
148.   Greg Brock
That was not a strike.

Not even freaking close.

2008-07-20 13:40:59
149.   Tripon
WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT?
2008-07-20 13:41:00
150.   KG16
Swing the bat, James.

Swing the bat.

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2008-07-20 13:41:01
151.   Marty
So, instead of getting Beltre, we got a third baseman who kinda looks like Beltre.
2008-07-20 13:41:07
152.   Xeifrank
That was a terrible strike three call.
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 13:41:12
153.   thinkblue88
Poor James.
At least he is creative!
2008-07-20 13:41:13
154.   Bob Timmermann
NL East standings:
Phillies 53-46
Mets 53-46
Marlins 52-46
2008-07-20 13:41:35
155.   underdog
And taking, not taken. Maybe I should go back to typing from my cell phone.

Okay, did that look like a strike to you?

Man, even when Loney doesn't hit into a DP, he ends up in a DP.

2008-07-20 13:41:37
156.   Greg Brock
150 It was not even close to being a strike.
2008-07-20 13:41:50
157.   Alex41592
Pitch looked inside, but that foul by Loney might have been our only look at the game.
2008-07-20 13:42:13
158.   berkowit28
123 Or maybe not such a long day, if the Dodgers go out this fast every inning.
2008-07-20 13:42:18
159.   KG16
148 - belt high, inside corner.
2008-07-20 13:42:20
160.   underdog
You know that was a bad call when Darren Sutton doesn't say what a "great pitch right down the middle" it was.
2008-07-20 13:42:40
161.   Xeifrank
End of 1-1/2 WE update. The simulator takes into account lineups and who is pitching.
FanGraphs: 18%
Simulator: 16.3%
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 13:43:26
162.   Xeifrank
159. Inside corner of the batters box maybe.
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 13:43:37
163.   oshea2002
Irrelevant whether Loney walked or not, he needed to homer for us to score that inning with the murderer's row hitting behind him.
2008-07-20 13:43:52
164.   KG16
i just watched it, twice on slo mo. it was a strike.
2008-07-20 13:43:55
165.   Alex41592
See that 0-2 pitch by Lowe to Webb. That was more of a strike than Webb's strike three to Loney.
2008-07-20 13:44:01
166.   D4P
Ned's trying to deal for a "run-producing third baseman."

I'm assuming this means Ned will look for a third baseman with relatively high RBI totals over time.

2008-07-20 13:44:17
167.   underdog
There has yet to be a "Key to the Game" on the FSN AZ broadcasts this weekend that wasn't just some joke not related to baseball. At least they're consistent.
2008-07-20 13:45:14
168.   bluecurtain
Maybe inside corner of Eric Gregg's homeplate.
2008-07-20 13:45:40
169.   Jon Weisman
The pitch to Loney was ball 4. My question is was it hit-and-run or run-and-hit?
2008-07-20 13:47:08
170.   Bob Timmermann
Couldn't the D-Backs have paid the designer a little extra so that the letters on the uniform match up when you button up the jersey?

I don't much like the jerseys reading:

D-B
___acks

2008-07-20 13:47:09
171.   Xeifrank
169. You didn't watch it in slo-mo 2 times?
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 13:47:57
172.   Ken Noe
166 Beltre maybe, or maybe Casey Blake after all, with LaRoche among others going?
2008-07-20 13:48:01
173.   KG16
171 - yeah, i'm done. nice knowing y'all
2008-07-20 13:48:07
174.   Marty
Well, we won't get the third baseman since nobody can complete a trade with the Dodgers.

And, we've got one on the bench already.

2008-07-20 13:48:32
175.   underdog
And yet that wasn't a strike 3 to Jackson there. At least Grace said "That's a strike folks."
2008-07-20 13:48:39
176.   Jon Weisman
165 - I had the same reaction. But them's the breaks.
2008-07-20 13:49:03
177.   oshea2002
I just read Simer's piece today, not too bad.
2008-07-20 13:49:42
178.   Eric Enders
DeWitt botches the DP ball. It's something that should be noted, is all I'm saying.
2008-07-20 13:50:00
179.   underdog
Sigh.
2008-07-20 13:50:34
180.   Ken Noe
174 We may know soon: Sweeney, who has struggled as the left-handed pinch-hitter, was eligible to come off the disabled list on Saturday, but management seems to be delaying that decision in lieu of another possible acquisition.
2008-07-20 13:50:38
181.   Greg Brock
173 Aw don't do that, man.

We can't let balls and strikes tear us apart.

And we ain't losing this game over that call.

2008-07-20 13:51:06
182.   underdog
And then the announcers just said Lowe got a break on that strike 2 call.

Okay, sorry, I'll stop now.

2008-07-20 13:51:40
183.   Bob Timmermann
Which "run-producing third baseman" would be available aside from Beltre?

And I can bring up my long pointless analogy of buying a Winnebago again.

Or perhaps Casey Blake is available. And then I would have to find another bad analogy. Which I could compound with a boring historical anecdote.

2008-07-20 13:51:43
184.   Marty
Every play to Kent is an E-ticket ride.
2008-07-20 13:51:54
185.   Greg Brock
How do you shorthop a twenty foot throw?
2008-07-20 13:51:54
186.   underdog
Good scoop by the un-veteran at first!
2008-07-20 13:52:30
187.   Bob Timmermann
Perhaps the Dodgers will acquire Nick Punto!
2008-07-20 13:53:15
188.   Alex41592
The former Seattle Supersonics will be hereby known as The Oklahoma City Thunder.
2008-07-20 13:53:28
189.   underdog
I'd take an "In play, run(s)-scoring play" third baseman right now, whether someone currently on the roster or not.
2008-07-20 13:53:58
190.   Greg Brock
Ugh.
2008-07-20 13:54:01
191.   Bob Timmermann
188
I think I mentioned that in thread #2 or possibly #4 today. How could you have not noticed?
2008-07-20 13:54:09
192.   Marty
Will they play in the Thunder Dome?
2008-07-20 13:54:19
193.   Xeifrank
That botched third strike call to Loney cost the Dodgers .971 runs according to the win expectancy chart. Pretty big effect for an umps call.
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 13:54:23
194.   Tripon
Man, if Andruw Jones struck out there, it would have taken Webb 3 pitches to strike out Jones instead of one pitch.
2008-07-20 13:54:30
195.   Eric Enders
169 WIth a three-ball count, isn't it always run-and-hit, by definition?
2008-07-20 13:55:01
196.   underdog
Well, he didn't make him work, but got good wood on the ball, didn't look like was food-poisoned anymore. That's something! {grasp at straws}

Oh great more cutesy in-the-stands reporting from the DBacks broadcast. Sigh.

2008-07-20 13:55:26
197.   Bob Timmermann
Cycle alert canceled in Atlanta.

Stand down.

2008-07-20 13:55:31
198.   Greg Brock
It seems like everybody under 30 has a clue at the plate.
2008-07-20 13:56:34
199.   Bob Timmermann
Don't pitch to anyone under 30!
2008-07-20 13:56:53
200.   underdog
198 - Ageist!

I'm calling AARP!

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2008-07-20 13:56:58
201.   Alex41592
191 - I am ashamed of myself because I checked 1,3,5 and 6 thoroughly thinking it could never be in 2 and 4. Alas, I am foiled again.
2008-07-20 13:57:12
202.   Greg Brock
199 Steal this comment.
2008-07-20 13:57:45
203.   JoeyP
Looks like the Cardinals are gonna 4 game sweep the Padres.

Rox are going to 4 game sweep the Pirates.

2008-07-20 13:58:32
204.   Greg Brock
Hacking 2-0 is not what we're shooting for today, Matthew.
2008-07-20 13:58:47
205.   Bob Timmermann
Orange alert for Clint Barmes in Denver. This is an orange alert.
2008-07-20 13:59:19
206.   JoeyP
Webb's really off on his location (22 strikes, 20 balls).

But the Dodgers have only managed 1 hit & 1 walk thru 3.

2008-07-20 14:02:36
207.   Bob Timmermann
Jose Reyes became the Mets all-time leader in triples with 63.

The Dodgers franchise leader is Zach Wheat with 171. Willie Davis is the L.A. leader at 110.

2008-07-20 14:06:03
208.   JoeyP
The best fans in baseball just loathe Jason Isringhausen.
2008-07-20 14:07:34
209.   underdog
That's an error on Captain Grumpusstache I assume, yeah?
2008-07-20 14:08:03
210.   Bob Timmermann
It's Best Fans in Baseball™
2008-07-20 14:09:22
211.   Eric Enders
209 I'm sure they gave it to Martin because the throw bounced. But it was an easy hop and Kent should have caught it.
2008-07-20 14:11:57
212.   JoeyP
Blown Save in STL.
2008-07-20 14:12:32
213.   oshea2002
Martin bounces a lot of throws, shouldn't come as a surprise to Kent.
2008-07-20 14:13:10
214.   Gen3Blue
cycle alert in Colo?
2008-07-20 14:14:27
215.   Bob Timmermann
214
See 205
2008-07-20 14:15:11
216.   bleedsblue
cmon Nomar
2008-07-20 14:15:12
217.   Greg Brock
Three hits to score a run is sooooooo painful.
2008-07-20 14:15:24
218.   Bob Timmermann
There should have been an Orange Alert for Matt Holliday, but it's been canceled.
2008-07-20 14:16:39
219.   natepurcell
Stephen Drew didn't touch the bag!
2008-07-20 14:17:06
220.   underdog
Argh.

(Hm, Drew looked like he never touched 2nd base.)

Feh.

2008-07-20 14:18:31
221.   oshea2002
Which morons are voting Santana?
2008-07-20 14:18:46
222.   Woden325
Barring a colossal meltdown by the Rockies bullpen (I know!), the alert for Barmes can probably be cancelled. Going to the top of the 9th, 11-3 Rockies.
2008-07-20 14:18:53
223.   Bob Timmermann
All cycle alerts in Denver are canceled.
2008-07-20 14:18:53
224.   Greg Brock
I'd take Johan over both those guys.
2008-07-20 14:18:55
225.   oshea2002
219, 220 - that will never get called
2008-07-20 14:19:31
226.   Greg Brock
224 was in response to 221
2008-07-20 14:20:32
227.   underdog
Whatever happens in this game, it would be great if Lowe can eat at least 6 innings, rest the pen a little, before the Rockies' series.
2008-07-20 14:23:58
228.   gpellamjr
No excitement on that play. Just relief.
2008-07-20 14:23:59
229.   oshea2002
nice throw by nomar
2008-07-20 14:24:14
230.   Eric Enders
Dumb baserunning by Arizona.

Andruw is painful to watch in center. How did this guy win 10 Gold Gloves?

2008-07-20 14:24:25
231.   Greg Brock
That was all Nomar.

Jones messed up and went Cadillac on the throw. Shame on him.

2008-07-20 14:24:29
232.   underdog
Well... That was exciting.

Thanks for being a greedy idiot Drew. After Jones was a sloppy fool.

Kudos all round! The crowd seemed to like it.

2008-07-20 14:25:01
233.   Andrew Shimmin
That was pretty stupid.
2008-07-20 14:25:20
234.   underdog
I thought that ball was gone at first - maybe it was just Darren Sutton being all Steiner for a moment.
2008-07-20 14:26:08
235.   oshea2002
Santana is making way more money then the other two, is slightly older then one and much older then the other, and I think we can all agree has hit his peak (yes I know his numbers are still good)
2008-07-20 14:26:10
236.   Greg Brock
Santana has a lower WHIP than Lincecum, is left handed, has zero injury history, and is in his first year in a new league.

I don't think there's a pitcher I'd take over Johan.

2008-07-20 14:26:27
237.   tethier
In fairness to Drew, it looked like the third base coach waved him in. It also looked like Drew peeked to see where the ball was.
2008-07-20 14:26:44
238.   Alex41592
That really was all Nomar. Heck of a play.
2008-07-20 14:26:54
239.   Eric Enders
If you're going to suck as badly as Andruw does, you need to not compound it by giving half-ass effort. That's the second time he's dogged it today alone.

The man has no reason to be playing baseball right now.

2008-07-20 14:26:58
240.   Greg Brock
235 If we're factoring payroll, maybe.
2008-07-20 14:27:05
241.   underdog
230 - Jones showed some evidence of his GG's even this season, has made quite a few great plays out there. But lately it does look like whatever's bugging him at the plate, is bugging him in the field now, too.

Okay, there's now a 9 year old kid in the booth for the DBacks broadcast. They are now officially the most atrociously asinine baseball telecast in America.

2008-07-20 14:27:53
242.   natepurcell
HAHAHAHA

A little kid is shadow announcing and re-calling the attempted inside the parker,

Little Kid: "Ball hit to center that Andruw Jones COMPLETELY MISSED...."

2008-07-20 14:28:03
243.   underdog
Jones shows near-near-the-warning-track power!
2008-07-20 14:28:30
244.   Eric Enders
"Okay, there's now a 9 year old kid in the booth for the DBacks broadcast. They are now officially the most atrociously asinine baseball telecast in America."

Yeah, but at least the kid is talking up Russell Martin's plate-blocking skills.

2008-07-20 14:28:41
245.   oshea2002
240 - that was a big part of my rationale.
2008-07-20 14:28:43
246.   underdog
Hah hah, yeah, he's actually better than Darren Sutton.
2008-07-20 14:29:25
247.   oshea2002
That was a gift.
2008-07-20 14:29:31
248.   underdog
He is, I'm now more impressed with the kid. But still, it's a distraction, and they keep missing the actual action - and even showed Russell in the dugout when the 2nd pitch was thrown.
2008-07-20 14:29:57
249.   oshea2002
How are you guys getting the Snakes broadcast, I thought this game wasn't on Extra Innings?
2008-07-20 14:30:04
250.   Suffering Bruin
231 This has been another edition of SB agrees with GB.

I just got back from Staples in WLA where Blake DeWitt will be signing autographs from 12-1pm. on 7/25. I plan on being there.

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2008-07-20 14:30:45
251.   JoeyP
242--Thats pretty funny.
2008-07-20 14:30:49
252.   gpellamjr
241 And Sutton makes a statement of his professional standards. As the kid stopped talking to allow him to describe Loney's hit up the middle, Sutton says:

"Keep talking [about yourself], they can see it at home."

2008-07-20 14:31:51
253.   Eric Enders
249 MLB.tv.

Strangely, this is the first broadcast I'm aware of that's ever been on a FSN network but not on Extra Innings. Something fishy is going on here.

2008-07-20 14:31:57
254.   underdog
249 - MLBTV.

Man, Lowe, sad bunt attempts there.

2008-07-20 14:32:01
255.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2008-07-20 14:33:04
256.   JoeyP
Aaron Miles walk off Grand Slam.

Bad bad year for the Padres.

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