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Veteran Selectivity
2008-07-20 14:18
by Jon Weisman

Working the count vs. Brandon Webb in the first three innings today ...

Inning 1:
23 Matt Kemp: seven pitches (three balls)
26 Andre Ethier: eight pitches (three balls)
25 Russell Martin: five pitches (three balls)

Inning 2:
40 Jeff Kent: two pitches (one ball)
34 Nomar Garciaparra: two pitches (one ball)
24 James Loney: seven pitches (three balls - should have been a fourth)

Inning 3:
31 Andruw Jones: one pitch (no balls)
22 Blake DeWitt: five pitches (four balls)
23 Matt Kemp: three pitches (two balls)

Under 30 average: 5.83 pitches (3.00 balls)
Over 30 average: 2.67 pitches (0.67 balls)

It's just a sampling, but I thought I'd mention it in case someone decides to talk about who can follow The Plan.

In the bottom of the first, Garciaparra and Kent bungled a rundown play. Garciaparra, the shortstop, was chasing a runner back to first base and waited long enough to throw to Kent that Kent bailed out, allowing the runner to make it back safely.

Jones, for his part, nearly created an inside-the-park homer for Stephen Drew in the bottom of the fourth, though Garciaparra bailed him out with a nice throw home.

Comments (385)
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2008-07-20 14:33:56
1.   underdog
Jon's making up for lost time today!
2008-07-20 14:34:00
2.   Bob Timmermann
Cardinals win on a game-ending grand slam by Aaron Miles off of Old Friend Brian Corey.
2008-07-20 14:35:17
3.   oshea2002
Good stuff Joh
2008-07-20 14:35:46
4.   oshea2002
My buddy in StL just sent me a text saying "Aaron Miles will not be denied", now it makes some sense.
2008-07-20 14:35:54
5.   underdog
Btw, thanks for keeping tabs on this. Be nice if other journalists did their homework, too.

It also reminds me of a favorite Built to Spill song:
"The plan keeps coming up again
The plan means nothing stays the same
But the plan won't accomplish anything
If it's not implemented
Like it's always been
And it makes me think of everyone
And the cause of this is evident
But the remedy cannot be found
Cause it's so well hidden
This history lesson doesn't make any sense."

2008-07-20 14:36:18
6.   JoeyP
Sad season for the Padres.
2008-07-20 14:36:30
7.   Eric Enders
Andruw's line works figuratively as well as literally.
2008-07-20 14:36:41
8.   underdog
Darn you Bison. Making that kidcaster look smart. Another opp wasted.
2008-07-20 14:37:39
9.   Eric Enders
0 Repeating a phrase from the last thread, "that was all Nomar." I can't see how Kent did anything wrong on the rundown play.
2008-07-20 14:37:57
10.   oshea2002
Germany beat Puerto Rico today for the final Olympic spot, meaning Chris Kaman gets to make his Olympic debut for his country.
2008-07-20 14:37:57
11.   Marty
This team is painful to watch.
2008-07-20 14:38:02
12.   Bob Timmermann
The Padres deserve all the misery that they can get.

I dislike the Padres more the Giants. I'm edgy that way.

2008-07-20 14:38:48
13.   Bob Timmermann
Germany will be Plaschke's least favorite basketball team in the Olympics. They might as well have put Sasha Cohen on the team.
2008-07-20 14:39:00
14.   Xeifrank
FanGraphs WE: 12%
Simulator WE: 12.65%
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 14:40:30
15.   underdog
I'm still sad about Abby Wambach's broken leg, speaking of the Olympics.
2008-07-20 14:40:38
16.   Greg Brock
I was kinda hoping somebody would break this down.

Thanks, Jon.

2008-07-20 14:41:39
17.   Eric Enders
Awesome play by Martin. Not that it will matter.
2008-07-20 14:42:57
18.   underdog
11 - Except when they're not, you mean? Like Friday's fun comeback, or anytime they win.
2008-07-20 14:43:44
19.   Neal Pollack
Jones' season is the exact inverse of an MVP season. We are privileged to be watching the worst season by a player in the history of baseball.
2008-07-20 14:45:59
20.   Greg Brock
19 To be fair, it's only in the top 150 worst full seasons in the tens of thousands of qualified seasons logged by major league players.

So he's got that going for him...Which is nice.

2008-07-20 14:48:01
21.   Jon Weisman
9 - you can blame it all on Nomar if you want - I won't argue. But by the end of the play, I would note that he had no one to throw to.
2008-07-20 14:48:40
22.   Xeifrank
20. When you take salary into context, I bet it's in the top two or three... atleast.
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 14:49:19
23.   underdog
I never get tired of those deadpan MLBTV "Keep watching" ads they run between innings. Victor Martinez's monotone delivery alone is worth the price of a subscription.
2008-07-20 14:49:25
24.   Neal Pollack
No worries. Pablo Ozuna and Mark Sweeney will save the day.
2008-07-20 14:49:36
25.   Xeifrank
23 runs so far this series. Gonna be difficult to hit the over/under of 26.2 the way Webb is pitching, and Lowe has settled down. vr, Xei
2008-07-20 14:50:46
26.   underdog
That was a bizarre carom out there for Kemp to deal with.
2008-07-20 14:51:18
27.   autumnlanding
If I'm McCourt, I release Jones and fire Colletti, replace him with Logan White and Kim Ng.
2008-07-20 14:51:47
28.   Greg Brock
22 Yeah, for sure with the salary.

I'm sorry to be this guy, but a performance that craters this terribly has to have something to do with PED's.

Or his body is falling apart at a rate unseen since the Iron Horse.

2008-07-20 14:51:55
29.   Linkmeister
0 Mattingly can't get the plan through to the PVLs?
2008-07-20 14:52:11
30.   underdog
Arizona fans now chant "Beat LA" too? What'd we ever do to you? Plus, I think SF and Boston own the rights to that chant in baseball and basketball, respectively. (Ah, I guess Suns fans probably chant it, too.)
2008-07-20 14:52:15
31.   Bob Timmermann
So does Logan White take Jones' spot on the roster?
2008-07-20 14:52:59
32.   Ken Noe
Ugly stat:

BA vs. Lowe, no one on base: .211
BA vs. Lowe, RISP: .347

2008-07-20 14:53:28
33.   Bob Timmermann
Doesn't anyone think that Jones' problems are mainly between his ears?
2008-07-20 14:53:44
34.   underdog
Young helped Lowe out there.
2008-07-20 14:54:38
35.   oshea2002
33 - I'm not sure, but I don't think it's getting fixed either way.
2008-07-20 14:54:48
36.   underdog
33 If you mean psychological and not too much wax, then yes, I think that.
2008-07-20 14:55:17
37.   Eric Enders
It's more a question of where Jones doesn't have problems. It's not like there's only one thing going wrong here.
2008-07-20 14:55:36
38.   Andrew Shimmin
Maybe his PED of choice was Adderall.
2008-07-20 14:56:16
39.   Bob Timmermann
His iPod headphones do resemble mine, but I think the Dodgers need to hire Mr. Burns' hypnotist.
2008-07-20 14:57:50
40.   Eric Enders
Well that was interesting... the umpire's protective cup just saved us a run.
2008-07-20 14:59:34
41.   Ken Noe
Insanity (n): 1.repeating a failed action repeatedly, ie, beating one's head against a brick wall, starting Andruw Jones in center field.
2008-07-20 15:00:20
42.   underdog
39 - You will give one hundred and ten percent.
Andruw: That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
2008-07-20 15:01:02
43.   underdog
Oh well, the Dodgers were "squozen," probably as karmic punishment for releasing Luis Maza today.
2008-07-20 15:02:27
44.   oshea2002
43 - maybe they can reverse it by DFA'ing Sweeney
2008-07-20 15:03:01
45.   Andrew Shimmin
Jones polluted CF. Whatever he's got, it's spreading.
2008-07-20 15:03:08
46.   68elcamino427
The All-Star break got my positive outlook for the Dodgers in high gear with Martin's great performance in the All-Star game contributing to the euphoria.
Great pitching on this Dodgers team.
Great Pitchiing on this Dodgers team.
Catcher - Martin - great
1B - Loney - good, young and learning
2B - Kent - best days are behind him and he knows it
3B - DeWitt - nice little defender
SS - Nomar - Good offense, spotty defense and how long can he last?
LF - Ethier - nice player both with the bat and on defense.
CF - Jones - very poor offense and now on defense too.
RF - Kemp - good, young and learning

The pending return of Sweeney and Pierre makes me cringe.

Summary - Great Pitching.

2008-07-20 15:03:26
47.   Greg Brock
33 Maybe it's a psychosomatic symptom of getting off the stuff.

We can both be right!

2008-07-20 15:04:07
48.   Alex41592
Wow, it really does take three hits.
2008-07-20 15:04:34
49.   oshea2002
I'll take another BB from Blake here..
2008-07-20 15:04:44
50.   underdog
Hey three contacts today and one hit! Improvement!
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2008-07-20 15:04:44
51.   Bob Timmermann
Osr. A hit, a very palpable hit.
2008-07-20 15:04:58
52.   Eric Enders
I smell a bad moment coming later in this inning where Pablo Ozuna pinch hits instead of Andy LaRoche.
2008-07-20 15:05:47
53.   oshea2002
Fortunately this isn't Sweeney
2008-07-20 15:05:51
54.   Woden325
42 Maybe he's been taking that nerve tonic that Ken Griffey Jr. tried.
2008-07-20 15:05:57
55.   Bob Timmermann
Act V, Scene II, Line 214 for those not concording at home.
2008-07-20 15:06:02
56.   underdog
An RBI on what could've been a DP. But I guess we'll take it.
2008-07-20 15:08:09
57.   underdog
Damn, Pee Wee roped that one, too. Bad luck.


"You! Look at what you've done. My starting pitcher thinks he's a chicken."


"I've decided to bring in a few ringers, professional baseballers. We'll give them token jobs at the plant and have them play on our softball team. Honus Wagner, Cap Anson, Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown..."

2008-07-20 15:11:13
58.   Gagne55
Since when is Paublo Ozuna a Dodger?
2008-07-20 15:11:33
59.   Greg Brock
If the vets had seen just ten extra pitches, Webb would be out of there.
2008-07-20 15:12:10
60.   underdog
Former Dodger prospect Ryan Ketchner is pitching against the Jacksonville Suns today.
2008-07-20 15:12:43
61.   Bob Timmermann
If McCovey had only hit it 5 feet higher!
2008-07-20 15:13:16
62.   oshea2002
At this point, how huge was the Friday game?
2008-07-20 15:13:37
63.   underdog
58 - Since a couple of DT posts ago:

(Also on for more details.)

2008-07-20 15:13:44
64.   skybluestoday

Does this mean that Joe Torre is now to inadvertently drink from the poisoned cup in celebration?

2008-07-20 15:14:07
65.   Alex41592
The Dark Knight is the highest grossing weekend ever at 155.34 million.

2008-07-20 15:15:07
66.   oshea2002
mlbtraderumors speculating on possible dodger acquisitions - Beltre, Blake, Blalock.
2008-07-20 15:15:10
67.   Greg Brock
61 You mock me.
2008-07-20 15:15:20
68.   Bob Timmermann
They never adjust those totals for inflation do they?
2008-07-20 15:15:44
69.   Bob Timmermann
It was an homage!
2008-07-20 15:16:03
70.   Woden325
Sounds like there's an open bar in the KABC booth. They're getting giddy.
2008-07-20 15:16:15
71.   underdog
Bless this ump for being consistently inconsistent.
2008-07-20 15:17:26
72.   underdog
68 Yeah, otherwise "Wings" would be number one.
2008-07-20 15:18:37
73.   Woden325
71 A foolish consistency, etc.
2008-07-20 15:19:02
74.   underdog
Argh, Kemp. Didn't you read Jon's post on your Blackberry?
2008-07-20 15:21:42
75.   Greg Brock
Ethier's AB's are such a treat to watch.

If he just had a little more power he'd be perfect.

And if McCovey had just hit it five feet higher....

2008-07-20 15:25:55
76.   underdog
S'long Webb. Finally.
2008-07-20 15:26:07
77.   Alex41592
Webb wobbly is still better than anything the D'Backs have in the pen.
2008-07-20 15:26:29
78.   underdog
Wait. No, Melvin's leaving him in there. Huh.
2008-07-20 15:27:00
79.   Gagne55
Webb appears to be losing command...
2008-07-20 15:27:48
81.   Gagne55
And yet I felt the whole time that it would be a DP.
2008-07-20 15:27:51
82.   underdog
Crap. I guess Melvin's a genius.

C'mon, Kent, just wait for a fat pitch or lay off.

2008-07-20 15:27:58
83.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Nice to see Kent busting his butt to get down the line.
(rolls eyes)
2008-07-20 15:28:19
84.   whodat807
2008-07-20 15:28:55
85.   underdog
80 That's really classy.
2008-07-20 15:29:38
86.   sporky
80 I didn't know arteries were susceptible to corrosion.
2008-07-20 15:30:05
87.   Woden325
85 ditto.
2008-07-20 15:31:48
88.   LoneStar7
AETW...always expect the worst, I just figure its the only way I can deal with this team right now...this game has been so frustrating its unbelievable
2008-07-20 15:32:19
89.   underdog
Isn't Sunday usually Kent's day off? Maybe they should've continued that trend today.
2008-07-20 15:32:40
90.   Greg Brock
80 When I'm saying it's a bit much, it's a bit much.

And Kemp, for all his foibles, still sees more pitches per plate appearance than Kent or Garciaparra.

2008-07-20 15:32:53
91.   trainwreck
At least Juan Pierre is not frustrating us.
2008-07-20 15:32:57
92.   gpellamjr
If only Jeff Kent had hit a home run there.
2008-07-20 15:33:35
93.   thinkblue88
Troncoso is dealing.
He has some good stuff.
2008-07-20 15:33:55
94.   Woden325
92 five feet higher?
2008-07-20 15:34:23
95.   trainwreck
Dang Angel fans and their happiness.
2008-07-20 15:35:37
96.   underdog
At least one positive from today: Ramon Troncoso continues to look light years better than he did his first time with the club. He's making me say, "Yhency who?" very quickly, looks like a keeper.
2008-07-20 15:35:58
97.   LoneStar7
91 and the pregame on 790 made me cringe when I heard more reports of Juan "running around, calling a meeting with Joe, and being ahead of schedule" and how "the dodgers have got to be excited to have him atop the lineup again"
2008-07-20 15:36:57
98.   underdog
That sucks. He strikes out, but reaches base safely and Martin takes the ball to the throat. That's about as bad as a K can be for LA.
2008-07-20 15:38:03
99.   Eric Enders
At least Troncoso can pull off the Darren Dreifort trick.
2008-07-20 15:38:31
100.   underdog
Mark Grace: "If a catcher gets hit in the throat, is it cool for the runner to run on him on the next batter?"
Sutton: "Absolutely."
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2008-07-20 15:38:46
101.   Eric Enders
Or not.
2008-07-20 15:39:19
102.   jasonungar07
.250/.310/.441/.751 Kent in 4 hole
.306/.377/.484/.861 Kemp at leadoff

Pick on something that needs to be picked on.

2008-07-20 15:40:25
103.   Eric Enders
100 So? They're right.
2008-07-20 15:40:39
104.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
102 - But, but... the trash can!
2008-07-20 15:41:51
105.   Suffering Bruin
104 Early nominee for LOL line of the week.
2008-07-20 15:42:02
106.   Greg Brock
Every once in a while Nomar reminds you why he was such a great hitter. That was really nice.
2008-07-20 15:42:10
107.   underdog
This Nomar's a keeper!

103 Sure, I just didn't know why they were talking about it. Bring back the kidcaster!

2008-07-20 15:42:17
108.   Alex41592
It's good to know that it's just because Haren and Webb are so good. Nothing more than that.
2008-07-20 15:42:56
109.   Woden325
Jones has a good chance to redeem himself here.
2008-07-20 15:43:05
110.   LoneStar7
loney and especially nomar have been very good at the plate this series....searching for positives
2008-07-20 15:43:14
111.   underdog
Hah hah. Jones is the tying run at the plate.

Tee hee.

Sigh. I'm not sure I can watch this.

2008-07-20 15:43:29
112.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Didn't Lyon walk 'druw last night?
2008-07-20 15:43:56
113.   Suffering Bruin
Lyon wasn't exactly nails yesterday.
2008-07-20 15:44:01
114.   Gagne55
These last two games are like the same game. Arizona scores in the first inning, is shut down from there. But the Dodgers can't get any runs until Lyon comes in but then it's too late.
2008-07-20 15:44:03
115.   Eric Enders
Given that it's Andruw Jones, is it still correct to say that the tying run is at the plate?

We need LaRoche to pinch hit for either Jones or DeWitt. But then I guess we wouldn't have a real hitter to PH for the pitcher.

2008-07-20 15:44:07
116.   underdog
109 To save himself from the violent splintered bat death that otherwise awaits him.
2008-07-20 15:44:13
117.   Woden325
112 Yes.
2008-07-20 15:44:20
118.   Greg Brock
I'm not sure I can watch this.

Like we don't know the outcome already?

2008-07-20 15:44:27
119.   Alex41592
Lyon made 28 pitches last night.
2008-07-20 15:44:30
120.   Bob Timmermann
I deleted 80 on the grounds of human decency.
2008-07-20 15:44:35
121.   Suffering Bruin
112 Yep. On a 3-2 pitch. A steady diet of fastballs.
2008-07-20 15:44:48
122.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
2008-07-20 15:45:28
123.   Suffering Bruin
I think Jones beat the throw.
2008-07-20 15:45:31
124.   Woden325
Jones screws up in reverse.
2008-07-20 15:45:43
125.   Tripon
Hey, Jones has a RBI!
2008-07-20 15:45:52
126.   underdog
120 - Sorry for referring to it at all, then.

Thanks, Drew, says 'Druw.

2008-07-20 15:46:03
127.   Suffering Bruin
123 Ignore please. The throw beat him.
2008-07-20 15:46:09
128.   Andrew Shimmin
J.D. Drew's little brother is a screw up.
2008-07-20 15:46:50
129.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
119 - And this is three straight games.
BoMel is banking tomorrow night's game against the Cubs isn't close.
2008-07-20 15:46:56
130.   underdog
Jones did look safe, didn't he?

Grace is right, he took the wrong pitch in that at bat, too - a fat, flat fastball he just watched. Then had a good swing but on a tough pitch in on the hands.

2008-07-20 15:47:22
131.   Alex41592
Both DeWitt and LaRoche will be up in a big situation.
2008-07-20 15:47:38
132.   Tripon
Man, Brandon Lyons is making Blake DeWitt look like the second coming of Babe Ruth.
2008-07-20 15:47:46
133.   underdog
Ignore me, too - saw the replay.

Okay, c'mon Solution.

2008-07-20 15:48:23
134.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
An unproductive out.
2008-07-20 15:48:48
135.   Greg Brock
The Solution qualifies as irony, yes? Or just sarcasm?

I need a ruling from the committee.

2008-07-20 15:49:02
136.   Alex41592
Now is the time Andy.
2008-07-20 15:49:21
137.   Eric Enders
130 Perhaps he didn't have the green light on 2-0?

I sure wouldn't give it to him.

2008-07-20 15:49:26
138.   thinkblue88
yeees!! LaRoche!!
2008-07-20 15:49:27
139.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Good for Andy!
2008-07-20 15:49:33
140.   Greg Brock

Back to the bench with you.

2008-07-20 15:49:35
141.   silverwidow
LaRoche is better than DeWitt.
2008-07-20 15:49:46
142.   underdog
135 - Both? Though I'd hate to open a can of worms yet again.

Andy can go a long way here to proving this obvious point we're all making.

2008-07-20 15:49:53
143.   Alex41592
Nice opposite field swing!
2008-07-20 15:50:02
144.   thinkblue88
And it all comes down to Kemp again.
2008-07-20 15:50:05
145.   underdog

Tee hee.

2008-07-20 15:50:11
146.   Gagne55
Nice cut by LaRoche
2008-07-20 15:50:17
147.   LoneStar7
free andy
2008-07-20 15:50:20
148.   nofatmike
Blake Who?
2008-07-20 15:50:21
149.   Tripon
2008-07-20 15:50:29
150.   underdog
140 Hah hah.

Okay, c'mon Bison!

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2008-07-20 15:50:32
151.   Greg Brock
Oh, man. Pablo Ozuna getting picked would be hilarious.
2008-07-20 15:50:33
152.   Bob Timmermann
And the Pablo Ozuna Era begins.
2008-07-20 15:50:44
153.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Telegram for Mister Kemp! Telegram for Mister Kemp!
2008-07-20 15:50:58
154.   Suffering Bruin
Yes, the topic has been tilled to death but just taking an anti-sabermetric look, just by looking at the swings of the two players... well, like I said, the subject has been previously discussed.
2008-07-20 15:51:07
155.   MollyKnight
Who the heck is Ozuna?
2008-07-20 15:51:09
156.   Penguin
I like Ozuna...nice pick up by Dodgers
2008-07-20 15:51:18
157.   underdog
That's hilarious. Ozuna comes in as a PR and the DBacks guys had no idea who he was for couple of minutes.
2008-07-20 15:51:19
158.   Gagne55
Here's where Kemp should BELT ONE!
2008-07-20 15:51:39
159.   Suffering Bruin
Kemp did tell Slimers he wanted to make up for yesterday.
2008-07-20 15:51:52
160.   Gagne55
hit a deep fly, a longball if you will
2008-07-20 15:52:36
161.   Suffering Bruin
Lousy, lousy call.
2008-07-20 15:52:58
162.   Alex41592
This has been quite the series regardless.
2008-07-20 15:53:06
163.   Gagne55
blast one deep, ring up a fourbagger
2008-07-20 15:53:19
164.   Greg Brock
The difference between 2-1 and 1-2...Come on, blue.
2008-07-20 15:53:30
165.   silverwidow

DeWitt: .512 OPS (pathetic for a starter)
LaRoche:.592 OPS (would improve greatly with more ABs)

2008-07-20 15:54:55
166.   Greg Brock
Pick me out a winner, Bobby.
2008-07-20 15:55:34
167.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
166 - "Get a hit, Crash."
"Shut up."
2008-07-20 15:55:41
168.   Greg Brock
Wow, way to hang in on that breaking ball.
2008-07-20 15:56:06
169.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
2008-07-20 15:56:15
170.   Greg Brock
I heart Matt Kemp.
2008-07-20 15:56:21
171.   Alex41592
2008-07-20 15:56:24
172.   Tripon
2008-07-20 15:56:28
173.   thinkblue88


2008-07-20 15:56:33
174.   Suffering Bruin
2008-07-20 15:56:38
175.   Alex41592
Matt Kemp just became a Dodger.
2008-07-20 15:56:38
176.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
2008-07-20 15:56:40
177.   Bob Timmermann
That decision worked out well.
2008-07-20 15:56:41
178.   MollyKnight
What happened?
2008-07-20 15:56:55
179.   skybluestoday
Oh my, was that [ever] exciting!
2008-07-20 15:56:57
180.   Woden325
Oh dang! What a great job by Kent!
2008-07-20 15:57:16
181.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
175 - But he'll never a be a true Yankee.
Sad, really.
2008-07-20 15:57:17
182.   Penguin
Great AB by Bison
2008-07-20 15:57:18
183.   underdog

And bringing in the speedier Ozuna to PR looks like a great move, eh?

2008-07-20 15:57:22
184.   Eric Enders
Hell yeah!
2008-07-20 15:57:24
185.   Frip
Double wishbone suspension!
2008-07-20 15:57:31
186.   thinkblue88


2008-07-20 15:57:33
187.   whodat807
KEMP! Nice way to bounce back for yesterday's 9th inning at bat.
2008-07-20 15:57:37
188.   LoneStar7

I shall now retract my AETW statement...for now : )

2008-07-20 15:57:44
189.   Suffering Bruin
Matt Kemp just went into the "getting it" file.
2008-07-20 15:57:49
190.   Greg Brock
Kemp critics really need to fight no more forever.

Just go away.

2008-07-20 15:57:53
191.   trainwreck
M Bison rules all!
2008-07-20 15:57:54
192.   fracule
Sweet, sweet redemption!!
2008-07-20 15:58:09
193.   nofatmike
Yeah, let's trade him.


2008-07-20 15:58:10
194.   Woden325
180 D'oh. Kemp! I'm so excited I can't type straight.
2008-07-20 15:58:22
195.   ToyCannon
That was my favorite at bat of the year.
2008-07-20 15:58:23
196.   underdog
Hee. Did some people just discover how to boldface their text here? ;-)
2008-07-20 15:58:26
197.   Gagne55
Not quite a longball, but works for me!
2008-07-20 15:58:35
198.   Greg Brock
Hit parade.
2008-07-20 15:58:43
199.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
2008-07-20 15:58:44
200.   silverwidow
Show/Hide Comments 201-250
2008-07-20 15:58:55
201.   Suffering Bruin
Andre Ethier just went into the "getting it" file.
2008-07-20 15:58:57
202.   skybluestoday
Those darn kids!!
2008-07-20 15:58:57
203.   thinkblue88


2008-07-20 15:58:57
204.   Alex41592
2008-07-20 15:59:00
205.   underdog
195 - Me too. By far.
2008-07-20 15:59:04
206.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-20 15:59:05
207.   ToyCannon
LaRoche, Kemp, and Ethier. Guess the kids are allright.
2008-07-20 15:59:11
208.   Woden325
2008-07-20 15:59:11
209.   Greg Brock
195 Yeah, it was awesome. Especially fouling off the offspeed pitch.

It was gorgeous.

2008-07-20 15:59:12
210.   Tripon
2008-07-20 15:59:25
211.   Bob Timmermann
Note to Bob Melvin:

You need a new pitcher.

2008-07-20 15:59:29
212.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
196 - It's all in the asterisks.
2008-07-20 15:59:29
213.   Frip
We don't suck! We don't suck! (today)
2008-07-20 15:59:34
214.   tethier
2008-07-20 15:59:37
215.   Gagne55
ETHIER FTW!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-07-20 15:59:39
216.   Penguin
Let's get another
2008-07-20 15:59:48
217.   trainwreck
Doubles and triples are way better than singles.
2008-07-20 16:00:13
218.   underdog
Best inning of the year for me, oh yes indeed.

And the funereal voice of Darren Sutton is the cherry on top of the chocolate sprinkles atop the cake.

Boy, Lyon's been throwing some fat pitches.

2008-07-20 16:00:15
219.   Alex41592
Lyon gets the Jason Isringhausen treatment.

Unbelievable these kids!

2008-07-20 16:00:39
220.   ToyCannon
Frank just put the latest trade for him to review into the shredder.
2008-07-20 16:00:52
221.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Out in the Dodgers bullpen, Broxton was awakened from his daydreaming of the postgame spread and is now warming up.
2008-07-20 16:00:54
222.   silverwidow
LaRoche, Kemp and Ethier come through in the clutch.

But the worst hitters on the team (DeWitt and Andruw) show absolutely nothing.

Thanks, Joe and Ned.

2008-07-20 16:00:58
223.   Gagne55
211 Yeah, Lyon has looked awful this series.
2008-07-20 16:01:14
224.   underdog
212 Hee. Yes, I realized that already, was just wondering.

This is so sweet...

2008-07-20 16:01:43
225.   MollyKnight
I'm worried about Bill Plaschke. What will he write about now?
2008-07-20 16:01:50
226.   trainwreck
I basically followed this game through everyones comments and it is amazing how quickly moods can change.
2008-07-20 16:01:53
227.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Living in Phoenix, I can tell you with authority that almost no one here truly believes in Lyon as a closer. Valverde is missed, and badly.
2008-07-20 16:01:57
228.   Alex41592
Martin would love to complete the four at-bat cycle right now.
2008-07-20 16:02:05
229.   underdog
can we just enjoy this comeback without talking of or worrying about a Kemp trade?
2008-07-20 16:02:22
230.   Woden325
"In like a Lyon, out like a lamb."
"The Autumnal Equinox."

Actually, that'd be the vernal equinox, as the saying refers to March. I do not hold with that sort of sloppiness.

2008-07-20 16:02:25
231.   ToyCannon
What a great series. Wish these games had been played at Dodger Stadium.
2008-07-20 16:02:36
232.   Gagne55
222 And don't forget the rally was started by the resurgent Nomar.
2008-07-20 16:02:37
233.   underdog
225 He'll make something up. Isn't that what he usually does?
2008-07-20 16:02:46
234.   Greg Brock
Hit. Parade.

Rinse. Repeat.

2008-07-20 16:02:46
235.   Tripon
Hey, singles are good too.
2008-07-20 16:02:51
236.   GMac In The 909
I love baseball and the Golden God.
2008-07-20 16:02:55
237.   Alex41592
YES! Martin with the insurance!
2008-07-20 16:03:00
238.   Suffering Bruin
Loving this. Absolutely loving this. It's a great game, baseball. Winning baseball games is even more fun.
2008-07-20 16:03:20
239.   ToyCannon
That was a LaRoche trade that was shredded, thank you very much.
2008-07-20 16:03:29
240.   Woden325
2008-07-20 16:03:33
241.   Alex41592
We have batted around...and loving it.
2008-07-20 16:03:45
242.   underdog
And Martin screws it up by singling instead of homering! Selfish jerk!

(I kid, I kid.)

This rocks.

2008-07-20 16:03:53
243.   Gagne55
Insurrence run.
2008-07-20 16:04:14
244.   MollyKnight
You know what would be awesome? If this game weren't blacked out in New York. That's what would be awesome.
2008-07-20 16:04:19
245.   MonkeyBlue
Yes! a insurance run!
2008-07-20 16:04:27
246.   ToyCannon
Nomar's power this weekend has been impressive. Probably the most balls he's hit on the button since the 1st half of 2006.
2008-07-20 16:04:32
247.   Eric Enders
This is the best game since 9/18/06.
2008-07-20 16:04:38
248.   Greg Brock
Come on, Bull.

Let's shut this down lickety-split.

2008-07-20 16:04:56
249.   underdog
239 - Ah. Well others before you there were commenting on such. I say we wait a few days before worrying about trades. ;-)

241 Wasn't that a bad Mel Brooks movie?

2008-07-20 16:05:21
250.   gpellamjr
229 I can't do anything without worrying about a Kemp trade.
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2008-07-20 16:05:44
251.   Gagne55
Looks like people will be harping all day on the fact that the three outs were by Kent, Jones, and DeWitt.
2008-07-20 16:05:49
252.   underdog
244 - Aw. No MLBTV?

The highlights will be fun.

Now we get to hear Mark Grace's Broxton mancrush in action.

2008-07-20 16:06:18
253.   Bluebleeder87
So far I like these Dodgers compared to the first half Dodgers.


2008-07-20 16:06:51
254.   Linkmeister
244 I feel your pain, Molly. Blacked out in Honolulu too.
2008-07-20 16:07:10
255.   Suffering Bruin

They get it.

They get it now.

They listened.

And listening worked.

The young guns didn't strike out.

They struck back.

The Dodgers?

They might just be back.

2008-07-20 16:07:11
256.   overkill94
Just got back from my own baseball game in time to see this awesome comeback. Come on Bull, finish 'er up!

I had a bluebleederesque game on the mound today: 9 IP, 4 H, 3 BB, 13 K's, 0 ER

2008-07-20 16:07:28
257.   bleedsblue
Aint over yet...
2008-07-20 16:07:31
258.   Gagne55
Alright lets get three outs and bounce.
2008-07-20 16:07:45
259.   underdog
I think, after Kemp's at bat, LaRoche's hit gave me the most pleasure in that inning.
2008-07-20 16:07:53
260.   LoneStar7
i just remembered pierre is coming back soon : (

Oh well i can't let it damper the game of the season so far, lets hope we can pull this one out

2008-07-20 16:08:25
261.   Greg Brock
251 Everybody was screaming about LaRoche and Kemp, not harping on the outs.

The only people that haven't figured it out just happen to run the team.

2008-07-20 16:08:38
262.   Gagne55
256 What kind of competition were you facing?
2008-07-20 16:08:40
263.   ToyCannon
Yup, this was all Joe Torre's doing.
2008-07-20 16:09:09
264.   Bluebleeder87
you guys gotta agree with me that that at-bat my Kemp WAS MONEY!!
2008-07-20 16:09:17
265.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
2008-07-20 16:09:19
266.   MonkeyBlue
Big Brox! K
2008-07-20 16:09:30
267.   Alex41592
All run scoring hits from the ninth are now on Gameday.


2008-07-20 16:10:16
268.   Greg Brock
I haz a fastball.
2008-07-20 16:10:33
269.   sporky
I temporarily forgot how to type.
2008-07-20 16:10:43
270.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers could come to Arizona and get two wins and they would come from Cory Wade and Ramon Troncoso.

I should check the last time two Dodger pitchers recorded their first major league win in the same series.

2008-07-20 16:11:03
271.   underdog
The (obvious) difference between these two teams is the bullpens, bar none. And if the Dodgers do hang on here, that's the exclamation point on that. Even without Saito, the Dodgers have more 'pen depth than Arizona.
2008-07-20 16:11:09
272.   overkill94
262 It's an adult league, but I'm playing in the easiest division this year since I haven't played in 9 years. It's nice to not have the pressure of the more competitive leagues, but the defense behind me is brutal - I think they made 7 errors today on easy plays.
2008-07-20 16:11:16
273.   whodat807
Wow, I turned this game off in disgust after Kent's grounding into a DP to end the eighth... I am ever so glad that I checked back when I did.
2008-07-20 16:11:32
274.   Tripon
Broxton got the motion going.
2008-07-20 16:12:00
275.   underdog
268 - When'd Brock become a Lolcatz?
2008-07-20 16:12:21
276.   Gilberto Reyes
The AZ announcers are still whining about the 9th inning DP ball botched by Stephen Drew and how that cost their beloved Webb his 14th win. They keep saying "What a shame." I love it.
2008-07-20 16:12:49
277.   MonkeyBlue
Throw it down the pipe man!
2008-07-20 16:13:03
278.   Woden325
275 somebody gave him a cheezburger.
2008-07-20 16:13:16
279.   whodat807
276 This is the perfect reward for having to listen to these two idiots for the past three days.
2008-07-20 16:13:19
280.   Greg Brock
275 I had to beat Linkmeister to the punch.
2008-07-20 16:13:37
281.   underdog
Tracy's been so hot walking him isn't the worst thing in the world. (Though now the tying run is up.)
2008-07-20 16:13:39
282.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
275 - Broxton: "I eatz a cheezburger."
2008-07-20 16:13:50
283.   Tripon
The Lolcatz thing is older than the internet.
2008-07-20 16:14:31
284.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Where was that pitch?!
2008-07-20 16:14:36
285.   Bob Timmermann
Looks like the last time two Dodger pitchers won their first major league game in the same series was back on June 2 and June 4, 1995 when Hideo Nomo and Felix Rodriguez each picked up wins against the Mets at home.
2008-07-20 16:14:47
286.   Tripon
277 Throw it down the pipe young man! - Bill Walton
2008-07-20 16:14:47
287.   Greg Brock
Fine, I'll go back to making fun of everybody and comparing things to the Civil War.

Go outside the box one time...Now I know how Chris Gaines feels.

2008-07-20 16:14:53
288.   underdog
I wonder, if the Dbacks lose, if Sutton will need that kidcaster to come talk to him, maybe buy him a consoling ice cream cone.
2008-07-20 16:15:36
289.   Linkmeister
280 I do LOLcatz?

C'mon, Broxton!

2008-07-20 16:15:44
290.   MonkeyBlue
one more! one more!
2008-07-20 16:16:47
291.   underdog
287 - No, no, Ize like. Peer prsur maks Brok sad.
2008-07-20 16:17:22
292.   Alex41592
One more strike Brox!
2008-07-20 16:17:50
293.   Bluebleeder87

Welcome to the world of sunday league baseball OK94.

but you know what, my short stop & 2nd baseman are really good compared to other teams...

2008-07-20 16:18:09
294.   trainwreck
I swear Peter Gammons has a shrine dedicated to Dustin Pedroia that he prays to everyday.
2008-07-20 16:18:22
295.   natepurcell
2008-07-20 16:18:28
296.   MonkeyBlue
lucky for that insurance run...
2008-07-20 16:18:28
297.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
The Snakes ain't dead yet.
2008-07-20 16:18:37
298.   Alex41592
Settle down.
2008-07-20 16:18:45
299.   Bluebleeder87
2 outs Brox, come one!!
2008-07-20 16:19:00
300.   Woden325
Bah humbug.
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2008-07-20 16:19:19
301.   underdog
Man, my nerves don't need this kinda nonsense.

I need a drink.

2008-07-20 16:19:27
302.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
2008-07-20 16:19:29
303.   Gagne55
Oh Nos!
2008-07-20 16:19:33
304.   Greg Brock
We win!
2008-07-20 16:19:33
305.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-20 16:19:41
306.   GMac In The 909
Ice cream all around!
2008-07-20 16:19:42
307.   Alex41592
2008-07-20 16:19:47
308.   Bluebleeder87
Yes! great come from behind win from the Dodgers!
2008-07-20 16:20:15
309.   bleedsblue
Berroa with the last out


2008-07-20 16:20:17
310.   Suffering Bruin
Pick any number of plays for play of the game.
2008-07-20 16:20:41
311.   Penguin
what a heartbreaker for the Snakes
2008-07-20 16:20:41
312.   underdog
Ooooo. Berroa almost gave me a heart attack with that little Fred Astaire step-to. But...


2008-07-20 16:20:43
313.   Woden325
Wow. That was a fun game, especially the last inning.
Of course, tomorrow I'll be rooting for the Rox.
2008-07-20 16:20:44
314.   Gagne55
Back into a first place tie.
2008-07-20 16:20:51
315.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
AZ gets the Cubs for three.
Dodgers get...?
2008-07-20 16:21:01
316.   Bob Timmermann
The NL West is a tie.
The NL East has three teams within a 1/2 game with the top two tied.
The NL Central leader is ahead by 2.
The NL Wild Card leader is ahead by 1.
2008-07-20 16:21:03
317.   overkill94
293 I think I'm going to move up to the more competitive league next year as long as my arm holds up. I'm not expecting the guys behind me to be gold glovers, but just making the routine plays would be nice. Two runs scored today after the right fielder couldn't catch a routine fly ball. Plus, one of the guys who scored got on base after an error from the third baseman.
2008-07-20 16:21:11
318.   Alex41592
A few things go differently and we walk out of Phoenix 4 games back. Instead, we head to the Rocky Mountains tied for first. I love baseball and especially today.
2008-07-20 16:21:12
319.   Linkmeister

S'alright, I knew we had it in the bag from the first pitch of the game.

2008-07-20 16:21:19
320.   whodat807
What a great series this has turned out to be. Nothing is sweeter than the quivering pain in Sutton's voice.
2008-07-20 16:21:32
321.   Greg Brock
315 See 313
2008-07-20 16:21:39
322.   Bluebleeder87

The oreo cookie soft serve "31 below" at baskin robbins is bad ass!

2008-07-20 16:21:52
323.   underdog
Wow. Great win. Huge.

Now the Dbacks have to play the Cubs.
The Dodgers will have a tough series in Denver, no doubt (right Woden?) but this is much better than being two out.

2008-07-20 16:22:07
324.   overkill94
315 The Rockies at home
2008-07-20 16:22:34
325.   Alex41592
BTW, that was Ozuna at second not Berroa.
2008-07-20 16:22:49
326.   Ken Noe
Forgive me, oh Great Dodger, for I gave up hope. Squeeee!!!
2008-07-20 16:22:57
327.   overkill94
324 Oops, I mean in Colorado
2008-07-20 16:24:00
328.   sporky
Best inning of the year.
2008-07-20 16:24:27
329.   underdog
Brock, this is for you btw:
2008-07-20 16:25:27
330.   Woden325
323 The Rockies are definitely on the up-tick at the moment. They seem to have figured out what those wooden things that they carry to the plate are for, anyhow.
It should be a good series.

Also, we can all root for the Cubbies for the next few days.

2008-07-20 16:25:34
331.   Gagne55
323 After the way the Rockies finished last year, I still feel like they're on the edge of contention. A sweep, and it's pretty much a two team race. Get swept and suddenly a three team battle.
2008-07-20 16:25:41
332.   MonkeyBlue
All three games with the team winning by one! I can't wait for the next dbacks/Dodgers series!
2008-07-20 16:26:39
333.   Bluebleeder87

best advice anyone ever game me is RUN RUN RUN if you want your arm to hold up.

among other exercises I do.

2008-07-20 16:27:14
334.   sweepstakes
Sorry if it's been said already, but The D-Back announcers were lame in applauding Drew for attempting the inside-the-park-HR. Then at the end they were harping on the SS miscue for costing them the game. I'm not sure that would've been a dp. In any case, we won; it was especially great to see that rally after the announcers said the D-backs are gonna put this one to bed right before the Dodgers took the last out.
2008-07-20 16:27:24
335.   underdog
325 - Was it? The announcers said Berroa, but the box score also says Berroa played 2nd there. You sure? Well, anyway, it doesn't matter.

I like Ozuna's speed already!

See y'all later.

2008-07-20 16:27:59
336.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Best part of the Cubs-Snakes series is it'll be a home series for Chicago. Lots and lots of Midwesterners here.
2008-07-20 16:28:42
337.   Eric Enders
334 Good point on the inside-the-parker, but the flubbed grounder would have been the easiest DP in the world. He was a step or two away from second base.
2008-07-20 16:29:06
338.   Greg Brock
I really hop KG16 comes back. We didn't agree, but it makes me a sad panda when people leave DT over silly arguments. Especially ball and strike calls in a July game.
2008-07-20 16:29:16
339.   MollyKnight
Darn you, Jason Taylor. I want Dodger highlights on SportsCenter!
2008-07-20 16:29:51
340.   Gen3Blue
Wow, what an outing by Troncoso. I must admit I had a rather pleasant evening reading since I could only get Gameday anyway. With Webb pitching I stopped following after Lowe loaded the bases with no outs. I would not call this pessimistic-- at the worst it was realistic. If I could have watched the game I might have persevered longer. Anyways, I am pleased and astonished!
2008-07-20 16:30:41
341.   MollyKnight
Highlights! SportsCenter! Right now!
2008-07-20 16:32:22
342.   sporky
336 That seems to apply in almost any ballpark!
2008-07-20 16:32:37
343.   Eric Enders
What was the lowest the WE got down to today? I remember Xei posting something like 12.5% in mid-game, but it must have been worse than that entering the ninth.
2008-07-20 16:32:54
344.   scooplew
Wow, what a great win!

Dodger relievers in this series:
15 innings pitched, 9 hits, 2 earned runs, 4 walks, 15 strikeouts = 2 wins and 2 saves


2008-07-20 16:33:20
345.   Bluebleeder87
So I guess Troncoso gets the W or what.
2008-07-20 16:33:28
346.   Gagne55
Both the Dodgers and Giants were involved in games with 11 total runs.
2008-07-20 16:34:01
347.   JoeyP
If this game causes the D-bax to make a panic trade for Huston Street, all the better.

From a possible 4 games out, to tied in the standings is a big swing.

With Ned probably GM'ing as if his job depended on it, I expect the Dodgers to make a major trade within 10 days. These two wins this weekend really kept the team in it.

2008-07-20 16:34:02
348.   Eric Enders
342 It really is astonishing how popular the Cubs are in Phoenix, though. Much moreso than elsewhere. It's been a Cubs town for years, partly because the Cubs were training in Mesa long before the DBacks existed.
2008-07-20 16:34:18
349.   Jimi Shelter
Here's a question for you. My father-in-law and I are having a scoring disagreement. Here it is-

A batter hits the ball to left and decides to go for two. If he's thrown out, does he still get credit for a single, despite getting thrown out trying to stretch it?

2008-07-20 16:34:18
350.   DXMachina
335 - Gameday said it was Berroa. But if it was Berroa, then why did Ned get Ozuna if he can't play second?
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2008-07-20 16:34:21
351.   Alex41592
335 - Excuse me. Yes, it was Berroa. I didn't check the box. Thanks.
2008-07-20 16:34:26
352.   overkill94
333 I was afraid I had really messed up my elbow after an outing about a month ago where I threw probably 120 pitches. When I tried warming up for the next game there was a sharp pain, but it felt fine today. I've been running more lately, maybe that's what helped me out today.
2008-07-20 16:34:58
353.   overkill94
349 Yup, goes as a single
2008-07-20 16:35:10
354.   trainwreck
They rather show two female race car drivers arguing.
2008-07-20 16:35:28
355.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
349 - Yes, a single.
2008-07-20 16:35:59
356.   JoeyP
343--Considering the Dodgers usually win only 3-4 games per year when entering the 9th inning behind, I'd say the Win Expectancy was rather low.

Maybe today's hit can get LaRoche in the lineup permanently.

2008-07-20 16:38:30
357.   Greg Brock
I liked it when Joe Torre's "feelings" were the implicit reason for the bad lineups. Now that he's flat-out said it, it somehow makes it worse.

I don't know why...It just does. Feelings are stupid.

2008-07-20 16:38:33
358.   underdog
350/351 - So I checked and Ozuna wears #14 for the Dodgers and rewatching it that's who was playing 2nd on that play. So it was indeed Ozuna, the box score and the DBacks announcers were both wrong (the latter less surprisingly so) and you were right. Makes sense, otherwise, yeah, why put him in there to run and then waste another player to play defense.

Anyway, I'm still on cloud nine, though I couldn't watch the Sportscenter highlights because my Tivo is too busy recording Mad Men and can't be disturbed.

2008-07-20 16:38:36
359.   nofatmike
354 Normally I don't mind that.
2008-07-20 16:38:42
360.   Bob Timmermann
I thought it was Berroa at second because the guy stepping on second base had "Berroa" on the back of his uniform.

Berroa probably went in instead of Ozuna because Torre didn't want a guy who hadn't played in the field for a while to play defense.

2008-07-20 16:38:55
361.   Alex41592
The Dodgers face Kip Wells, Ubaldo Jimenez and Glendon Rusch in Denver. We counter with Eric Stults, Jason Johnson and Hiroki Kuroda.

The D'Backs face Chicago's Rich Harden, Jason Marquis and Ted Lilly. They counter with Randy Johnson, Micah Owings and Doug Davis.

2008-07-20 16:40:34
362.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
348 - Plus, Arizona is the retirement destination of choice for Iowans - and Iowa is a Cubs state*.
* - Sure, there are slices of Twins, Cardinals and Royals territory, but having lived in Des Moines it's predominantly Cubs.
2008-07-20 16:41:35
363.   underdog
360 - Whaa? Okay, I need to see a new optometrist. But I thought it was #14, which is Ozuna? Alright then... I give up!
2008-07-20 16:42:45
364.   underdog
361 - Some mediocre pitching matchups in our series. Predict a high scoring affair, which means... a lot of 3-2 games.
2008-07-20 16:43:38
365.   trainwreck
This Berroa/Ozuna confusion is like something out of Southland Tales.
2008-07-20 16:43:45
366.   caseybarker
Andy LaRoche literally saved our season today;)
2008-07-20 16:44:02
367.   Greg Brock
My grandfather was born and raised in Iowa City, but he was a Cardinals fan. Cards and Packers. I'm pretty sure everybody else rooted for the Cubs and Bears.

You really ought to give Iowa a try, provided you are contrary.

2008-07-20 16:44:07
368.   The Trolley Dodger
Was Berroa playing SS and Ozuna 2nd?
2008-07-20 16:44:30
369.   Bob Timmermann
Check the socks. Berroa wears high socks. Ozuna doesn't.

Berroa wears 13. There are three box scores showing Berroa playing second. And Vin said it was Berroa also.

Of course, it could have been Bobby Richardson.

2008-07-20 16:45:00
370.   Bob Timmermann
Nope, Ojeda grounded out to Nomar at short.
2008-07-20 16:46:05
371.   Gen3Blue
361 Sounds good to me. The D's are awful when facing Ace type pitching( most NL West teams seem to have two of these) but they keep getting better vs. poor or mediocre pitching. If they keep these young players they will probably improve across the board.
2008-07-20 16:46:19
372.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
367 - I gave Iowa a try. Didn't agree with me - it's an AL Central state and I'm an NL West guy - but I did meet my wife there.
2008-07-20 16:47:18
373.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
370 - Speaking of Nomar at short, his defense is proving adequate for the job. Keep him there.
2008-07-20 16:48:56
374.   D4P
I gave Iowa a try. Didn't agree with me - it's an AL Central state and I'm an NL West guy - but I did meet my wife there

And now she doesn't agree with you...

2008-07-20 16:50:12
375.   Greg Brock
We can stand touchin' noses
For a week at a time
And never see eye-to-eye.
But we'll give you our shirt
And a back to go with it
If your crops should happen to die.

Iowa, in my limited travels there, is very nice.

2008-07-20 16:51:23
376.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
375 - Oh, there's nothing wrong with Iowa. Very decent people.
But for a young man in his late 20s, it was deathly dull.
2008-07-20 16:52:04
377.   trainwreck
The site of Fedor playing cards before the fight was one of the funniest things I have seen.
2008-07-20 16:52:15
378.   trainwreck
2008-07-20 16:52:49
379.   The Trolley Dodger
Via Tony Jackson, July 9th Sun-Times article on CWS clubhouse reaction to Ozuna's being DFA'd.

2008-07-20 16:53:19
380.   underdog
369 - You sure it wasn't Alfredo Griffin?
2008-07-20 16:54:00
381.   Greg Brock
376 Having dated a girl who left Iowa, I can only say that it must be liberating to leave it.

It certainly was for her.

2008-07-20 16:54:42
382.   Bob Timmermann
I've got a positive ID of Alfredo Griffin at Angels Stadium at the time.
2008-07-20 16:55:30
383.   Jon Weisman
2008-07-20 16:55:40
384.   D4P
I didn't see that last night, but I've seen him do that before when he was with PRIDE. Pretty hilarious.
2008-07-20 19:04:24
385.   Xeifrank
343. The lowest WE was 2.8% today. Right after Kent hit into a double play.
vr, Xei
2008-07-20 22:42:03
386.   jet
By the way, does 'NPUT' mean the discussion's over? At any rate, then here's a probably unheard voice reminding everyone that it was DeWitt's amazing play in the 9th inning of Friday's game that prevented the D-Backs from scoring, obviating the need for any extra innings and hence the rally and victory. Give the guy a break: he is contributing. Also, someone in some recent post, perhaps this one, told another poster that 'if he (or she?) had been following the Dodgers the last two years, they'd 'know' the 3rd baseman's job was LaRoche's. Actually, I've been following the Dodgers for 54 years and can probably name 90% of the third basemen. The job was not LaRoche's: eventually, it might have been LaRoche's. But as recently as Spring Training he was battling Garciaparra for the position when both got hurt. There are no guarantees in this game.

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