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Pierre Activated, Young DLed
2008-07-25 15:35
by Jon Weisman

The Dodgers activated Juan Pierre and put Delwyn Young on the 15-day disabled list with "a right oblique strain."

Comments (155)
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2008-07-25 15:39:05
1.   Ken Arneson
The word "DLed" looks an awful lot like "Died" from a distance.
2008-07-25 15:39:08
2.   overkill94
Well, at least they didn't DFA him, but this definitely screams phantom injury. How long before Andruw's "oblique" starts acting up?
2008-07-25 15:40:15
3.   Alex41592
I did not see that coming with D.Y.
2008-07-25 15:40:31
4.   underdog
They're not gonna DFA Delwyn, he's been too valuable off the bench this season. Too bad. Honestly, despite all our protests, I don't mind having Pierre back BUT having him lead off is going to suck. (/lead dead horse to water)
2008-07-25 15:41:18
5.   KG16
3 - i'd like to believe it's legit, maybe tweaked something during practice and the dodgers have decided to start being proactive with injuries.
2008-07-25 15:41:30
6.   Alex41592
We now have no bench. Except the one who is benched in the DeRoche saga.
2008-07-25 15:42:39
7.   blue22
6 - And Pierre/Andruw, one of whom will be on the bench.

I believe.

2008-07-25 15:42:48
8.   ibleedbloo
I was going to call in sick today with a right oblique strain but didn't want to use up the sick time. I guess Delwyn has more on the books than I do.
2008-07-25 15:48:04
9.   Gagne55
Well this is an injury that seems to have just come from nowhere.
2008-07-25 15:49:08
10.   tethier
6 - Ethier will be on the bench - we'll have him.
2008-07-25 15:49:13
11.   ImprobableImpossible
A lefty will start.
Ethier will sit.
We will pout.
2008-07-25 15:50:49
12.   Andrew Shimmin
Thank Ch-i we're not going to have to try getting through a single game without two backup shortstops. Who's the top LH bat off the bench, now, Kuo or Stults?
2008-07-25 15:52:18
13.   Bob Timmermann
Stults doesn't have a long enough bat to cover the outside pitches when he's standing in Vegas.
2008-07-25 15:53:29
14.   ToyCannon
If A Jones was to be on the bench it might be the worse bench we've had since 2005. Ozuna, Berroa, Ardoin, A Jones, DeWitt. Even I can't find a way to spin that in a positive vein.
2008-07-25 15:53:49
15.   Marty
I guess the plan they had for Sweeney was just to disappear him. Not that I'm against that.
2008-07-25 15:54:33
16.   cargill06
Does that mean Pierre is going to play tonight?
2008-07-25 15:55:00
17.   Alex41592
D.Y's injury took place during his at-bat in the ninth in Denver. Pierre is in the lineup and leading off. Rest of the lineup not available yet.

2008-07-25 15:55:05
18.   Eric Stephen
Even I can't find a way to spin that in a positive vein

How about, Billingsley is pitching tonight so we don't need a bench. Woo hoo!

2008-07-25 15:55:05
19.   MMSMikey
this is torres true test, he absolutely cant bench kemp or ethier, it has to be jones.
2008-07-25 15:55:07
20.   underdog
Are there any other lefties out there besides Mark Sweeney the Dodgers could call up, or acquire?

Btw, if DeWitt's on the bench, he'd be our righty PH.

2008-07-25 15:55:33
21.   Marty
16 The man knows how to start.
2008-07-25 15:56:57
22.   Bob Timmermann
How would DeWitt be a righty PH since he isn't a righty batter?
2008-07-25 15:57:16
23.   Gagne55
20 John Lidsay is hitting pretty well in AAA.
2008-07-25 15:57:50
24.   tethier
Pierre will be allowed to play unless he really stinks it up. He won't have to get to Jones like stink; if he stays in the .260 - .280 area he'll be in there. There is no reason to think that he won't. Ethier's best chance to get back in will be if Jones continues to play the way he has all year. I suspect they'll give Jones most of this homestand to see where he's at.

It will be interesting to see if Pierre's injury affected his speed - the one and only thing he excels at. They should have at least had him steal a few bases in LasVegas to see if he was "up to speed." I guess Juan complaining about it being too hot in Vegas made the Dodgers feel sorry for him and led to him coming back early.

2008-07-25 15:58:36
25.   Gagne55
22 Tell him to switch which hand is on top and step into the other batter's box.
2008-07-25 15:58:56
26.   GMac In The 909
The one good thing I can take from this phantom injury to DY is he won't be shipped out in a trade between now and July 31. Quick, tweak The Rock's right oblique so he can get July 31 immunity too.
2008-07-25 15:58:59
27.   underdog
22 I meant "lefty" of course, but the right side of my brain took over and I typed "lefty."

I also need coffee.


From previous thread,
318 blue22
311 - His dad is Todd Rundgren.

I had no idea! Looked it up and Todd R has two sons who play pro baseball. Who knew?

2008-07-25 15:59:16
28.   unlazy4sports
Who took Maza's spot on the roster?
2008-07-25 15:59:21
29.   underdog
Er, type RIGHTY.


I really need coffee.

2008-07-25 15:59:22
30.   regfairfield
I guess Delwyn was getting dangerously close to pulling a suck muscle.
2008-07-25 15:59:36
31.   MMSMikey

we cant just assume ethier wont be playing.

2008-07-25 15:59:42
32.   Rob M
Ethier is sitting per Inside the Dodgers
2008-07-25 15:59:48
33.   regfairfield
28 Pablo Ozuna.
2008-07-25 15:59:59
34.   Gagne55
25 Of course that would likely lead to many terrible at bats.
2008-07-25 16:00:21
35.   Rob M
Pierre, LF

Kemp, RF

Martin, C

Kent, 2B

Nomar, SS

Loney, 1B

Jones, CF

LaRoche, 3B

Billingsley, P

2008-07-25 16:01:11
36.   underdog
Gack. Jones and Pierre, here we go. Good thing it's the Nats. Well, either they both stink as predicted and it won't last long (it may not last long anyway), or they surprise us and don't stink. Either way, we win!

Or either way, we lose.

2008-07-25 16:01:32
37.   Marty
Kemp at number two seems to be a really weird decision.
2008-07-25 16:01:47
38.   Gagne55
Pierre, LF

Kemp, RF

Martin, C

Kent, 2B

Nomar, SS

Loney, 1B

Jones, CF

LaRoche, 3B

Billingsley, P

2008-07-25 16:01:56
39.   Ken Noe
Diamond says Pee Wee pulled it Wednesday night.
2008-07-25 16:02:10
40.   Gagne55
I suck.
2008-07-25 16:02:11
41.   underdog
35 If you start with Kemp as #1, that line-up works just fine! Just move everyone up one spot.

Good to see LaRoche back in there again, at least.

2008-07-25 16:02:31
42.   Alex41592
35 - So, I believe we're in the middle of a Jones/Ethier platoon.
2008-07-25 16:02:45
43.   unlazy4sports
33 - Thanks.

How do you do that linking the number to a comment?

2008-07-25 16:03:03
44.   Zak
22 Because he is a ballplayers.
2008-07-25 16:03:07
45.   Icaros
I was going to at least be happy that the showcase at 3B is continuing, but I see now that this is only because Lannan is a lefty.
2008-07-25 16:03:08
46.   tethier
31 - I would like to see him play too - it's just my opinion based on what I've seen Torre do all year. I think Jones will be out there based on articles like "Jones is starting to have quality at bats."
2008-07-25 16:03:31
47.   underdog
42 I may be in the minority here, and you may be right, but I wouldn't assume anything based on tonight. Still... if Jones doesn't get better soon, there's no way he doesn't go back to the bench.
2008-07-25 16:04:14
48.   regfairfield
39 Just like Sweeney managed to hurt himself right before Nomar came back.
2008-07-25 16:04:41
49.   unlazy4sports
Wow, that's 4 straight starts for LaRoche! C'mon Andy, do something good tonite and get the stadium crowd to start supporting you like they did with Dewitt.
2008-07-25 16:04:46
50.   Gagne55
43 put the number in brackets
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2008-07-25 16:05:07
51.   MMSMikey
how can joe justify sitting ethier, who is one of the team leaders in homeruns. this is stupid.
2008-07-25 16:05:16
52.   still bevens
32 RIP player on the team with highest SLG avg. (or at least as of last week)
2008-07-25 16:05:16
53.   Gen3Blue
It is possible that Pierre's return could help the Dodgers at this point. They need to get Kemp near the center of the line-up.
And, without Pierre, they might have to play Andruw Jones, instead of Kemp and Ethier.
Here is hoping someone is watching the results when Jones and Pierre are in. When both are in this is a losing team!
2008-07-25 16:05:57
54.   regfairfield
51 Ethier's been sitting against lefties for a while now.
2008-07-25 16:06:16
55.   fanerman
Because benching the guy with the most home runs on the team is how you generate offense...

"They only like consistency from old players."

2008-07-25 16:06:17
56.   MMSMikey
oh, this guy is a left tonight? OK, then i am a little more OK with etiehr sitting, i still dont agree with it, however.
2008-07-25 16:06:18
57.   underdog
With LHP Cialis Perez pitching tomorrow, Andy should start again then, too. Plenty of chances for him to do good things.
2008-07-25 16:06:27
58.   GMac In The 909
35 I'm happy LaRoche is still a starter, but bummed to see Pierre and Jones in the same OF. I guess my fantasy baseball teams will go back to being known as "Free Ethier".
2008-07-25 16:06:59
59.   unlazy4sports
(50) Like this?
2008-07-25 16:08:32
60.   Gagne55
59 Not parenthesis. Brackets. []
2008-07-25 16:08:58
61.   tethier
like this - only with the number inside the brackets []
2008-07-25 16:09:01
62.   willhite
Andruw has set the bar so low that 2 S.O. and two ground balls will be considered an improvement. He could be in the lineup forever.
2008-07-25 16:09:29
63.   underdog
No, brackets, as in "[" and "]" (without the quotes of course.

Btw, I'm going to post something later this weekend but let's try for a DT North gathering for the Dodgers@Giants series Aug 8-10. More soon!

2008-07-25 16:10:03
64.   unlazy4sports
60 61 Got it, thanks!
2008-07-25 16:11:41
65.   MMSMikey
its all because he hit that stupid double to right center yesterday. has anyone noticed everytime he gets a hit theres a ken gurnick article on about how he is showing improvement. right or lefty matchups should'nt matter, ethier is better and deferves to play over him.
2008-07-25 16:12:48
66.   Lexinthedena
This next week has to be Jones' last chance...right? right?

Dre on the Bench is wrong, and Torre has to know it. Last year I felt that Grady played politics to much with his lineups. Joe has been even worse.

2008-07-25 16:12:56
67.   Dodgers49
42 35 - So, I believe we're in the middle of a Jones/Ethier platoon.

Or, as difficult is this is to phantom, a Kemp/Either platoon.

2008-07-25 16:14:43
68.   still bevens
65 The most amazing aspect of last season was when the old radio host of Dodger Talk on kfwb said on air that the team values big money contracts over production on the field. My mind was blown. This was an answer to a Pierre question btw.
2008-07-25 16:14:51
69.   trainwreck
I hope I can go.
2008-07-25 16:16:05
70.   Lexinthedena
68 I really enjoyed Bob Harvey's Dodger Talk.
2008-07-25 16:16:45
71.   sporky
Pierre/Jones is quite an expensive platoon.
2008-07-25 16:17:05
72.   Vaudeville Villain
BHsportsguy, I have to hand it to you. You said I was crazy a while ago when I suggested that maybe Jones could be benched, but you were right.

They refuse to bench him. They continue to justify his absolutely atrocious play and play him over a better player. We've passed the All-Star break and he still stinks.

The real test now is when we see a right handed pitcher and Kemp is forced to sit.

2008-07-25 16:17:06
73.   regfairfield
68 It's true though. Big money players play until there's absolutely no hope they'll be productive.
2008-07-25 16:17:27
74.   tethier
66 I can see Jones playing most of this homestand unless he really stinks - like 8 K's in 2 games. He's bad, but probably not that bad.
2008-07-25 16:24:24
75.   Alex41592
Carlos Gomez is hurt in Cleveland and hurt bad.
2008-07-25 16:25:47
76.   still bevens
Rotoworld mocks us

Dodgers activated outfielder Juan Pierre from the 15-day disabled list.
The Dodgers were 11-9 while Pierre was out, even though they've been dealing with several other key injuries as well. They're probably no better now that he's back, but at least it looks like his at-bats will come at the expense of Andruw Jones, rather than Matt Kemp or Andre Ethier.

2008-07-25 16:26:35
77.   underdog
71 Not as expensive as this one:

75 What happened?

2008-07-25 16:26:36
78.   KG16
I'm going with Step 13 today.
2008-07-25 16:27:39
79.   Dodgers49
72 The real test now is when we see a right handed pitcher and Kemp is forced to sit.

Yep. Torre said a week ago that when Pierre returned he would play everyday in left with Jones in center and with Kemp and Either sharing right. But he also said he reserved the right to change his mind about Jones. So it's going to be really interesting to see what Sunday's lineup looks like. Note though that he didn't say that Kemp/Either in right would be a straight platoon. He said they would share right. I took that to mean Kemp would get more ABs than Either. But we'll have to wait and see.

2008-07-25 16:28:14
80.   Alex41592
Collided into the wall with his side. The wall won and he's been stretchered off the field. Like I said hurt bad.
2008-07-25 16:33:57
81.   cargill06
80 gamecast shows he didn't even play today?
2008-07-25 16:35:50
82.   Alex41592
Gomez's replacement Denard Span just dove into the wall as well. He was luckier than Gomez. He's ok.
2008-07-25 16:36:00
83.   underdog
Hrmmm. Xavier Nady was pulled early tonight from the Pirates' lineup. No known injury.

I bet he's going back to the Mets, or the other NY team.

2008-07-25 16:36:40
84.   kinbote
Tony Jackson was right all along: Juan Pierre will be the left fielder.

Man, I'm sure hoping D. Young's okay. If this year has taught me anything, it's that we always use the DL for legitimate reasons.

(C'mon Selig--punish Ned for abusing a sacred system!)

2008-07-25 16:37:54
85.   fanerman
84 Punish him by demanding his resignation?
2008-07-25 16:37:59
86.   kinbote
83 Thank god we already have a left fielder!
2008-07-25 16:40:59
87.   Dodgers49
79 He said they would share right. I took that to mean Kemp would get more ABs than Ethier. But we'll have to wait and see.

Actually, he could have meant that he planned to give them about equal playing time. A straight platoon would result in Ethier over Kemp most of the time.

2008-07-25 16:41:12
88.   kinbote
85 Corrupt and inept is not the best combination of traits to carry.
2008-07-25 16:41:32
89.   Zak
This is the puzzling part about Torre. At the beginning of the season, he decided that Pierre would be the 4th OF and Jones, Ethier and Kemp would get starts. Pierre has been below average in the OF this season, and now he is the 1st OF over all else. Meanwhile Ethier is having a very good season and Kemp is not too far behind. What happened?
2008-07-25 16:42:51
90.   fanerman
89 That was before Torre was given extended exposure to Pierre's pheromones.
2008-07-25 16:43:14
91.   still bevens
89 Furcal went down and Joe cant put down the 'speed at the top of the order' crack pipe.
2008-07-25 16:43:17
92.   Alex41592
Nady and Marte have been traded from the Pirates but to where is not available yet.
2008-07-25 16:44:35
93.   kinbote
83 Someone of Bucs Dugout is hoping for a Tampa Bay pitching prospect for Nady. Sounds about right to me.
2008-07-25 16:44:37
94.   Zak
90 No kidding! I get the argument that OPS does not include SB and SBs are valuable. But sheesh! This guy sucks and that's not including defense.
2008-07-25 16:45:33
95.   kinbote
92 Is Ned on the roof with his Bat-signal?
2008-07-25 16:46:36
96.   kinbote
94 But he gets to the park early. Very early. He studies things. He gets it.
2008-07-25 16:46:41
97.   Alex41592
92 - Speculation is Tampa Bay. Not confirmed.
2008-07-25 16:46:42
98.   Dave60
63 69 I have a ticket in hand for August 10, and hope I can meet a few DT North folks.
2008-07-25 16:47:33
99.   underdog
93 I have a feeling it may be one of the Rays' talented young infielders. Reid Brignac?
2008-07-25 16:47:50
100.   fanerman
63 D'oh. I'll be on the other side of the planet. Ah well.
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2008-07-25 16:48:06
101.   Eric Stephen
Pure guess...JtD.
2008-07-25 16:48:58
102.   regfairfield
101 That seems more realistic. Nady and Oliver Perez could only bring back Roberto Hernandez a couple years ago. JtD seems like a good risk for the Pirates.
2008-07-25 16:49:48
103.   68elcamino427
Yes the Dodgers will play the the most higly paid:


There are no more seven figure position players available on the bench.

Play 'em till they drop Torre.

Is Ned happy tonight?
Is Mr. McCourt happy tonight?

For some reason I'm reminded a scene from Braveheart where the King kills his son's advisor by throwing him out the window.

Hope the Dodgers win.

2008-07-25 16:50:31
104.   fanerman
103 Defenestration. That'll solve the Dodgers' problems.
2008-07-25 16:52:39
105.   berkowit28
This is unbelievable. How can Torre bench Ethier rather than Jones? What can the justification possibly be? Please don't blame this on Colletti. He does not write the lineups. This is Torre. Why does he want someone who stinks on the lineup? How many more starts does Jones need to get through spring training?
2008-07-25 16:55:05
106.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Is the outfield for today's game going to be Pierre-Jones-Kemp.

I have GREAT seats for today's game, but I really, really don't have the mental fortitude to deal with Jones anymore.

Looks like I'll be giving away my seats.

2008-07-25 16:58:23
107.   ssjames
BP says that Nady and Marte have been dealt to the Yankees, but does not say for who.
2008-07-25 16:58:44
108.   Icaros

Jones is the worst, but I still hate JP way more.

2008-07-25 17:03:02
109.   Icaros
The NBA just filed for trademark rights to 6 potential names for the former-Seattle Supersonics-now-Oklahoma City franchise:

Barons, Bison, Energy, Marshalls, Thunder, Wind.

2008-07-25 17:03:16
110.   Alex41592
According to's Jon Heyman, the Yankees have acquired outfielder Xavier Nady and reliever Damaso Marte from the Pirates for Jose Tabata, Ross Ohlendorf and two other minor league prospects.

2008-07-25 17:03:57
111.   fanerman
109 5 out of 6 of those names kinda suck. The other is already copyrighted.
2008-07-25 17:03:58
112.   PalmdaleSteve1
Time for the Dodgers to just throw in the towel and eat it.

Unconditionally release Andruw Jones at the end of the season, maybe some team in Japan wants him, no major league wants a sub .200 hitter on the roster.

2008-07-25 17:04:10
113.   thinkblue88
Andre Ethier has been traded to the bench.
Dodgers get Juan Pierre.

This is ridiculous. Ethier has been hitting lefties better recently.

2008-07-25 17:04:31
114.   regfairfield
And so completes Jose Tabata's fall from grace.
2008-07-25 17:05:22
115.   Who Is Karim Garcia

I've decided to go to the game, pay 60 dollars for 4 beers and just close my eyes when Andruw comes up.

I just really am going to loathe tonight.

I've disagreed with lineup moves before- Tracy not batting Choi second, for example- but at least I could see some logic.

Consistently playing a player who is good for at least 3Ks a game is just beyond me. What? Does Torre thing the double the other day is going to shake him out of it?

I've had enough. Somebody talk me off this ledge.

2008-07-25 17:05:50
116.   Icaros
I didn't even consider the connection of Kemp being from Oklahoma.
2008-07-25 17:06:59
117.   regfairfield
Of course, he is a 19 year old in AA...
2008-07-25 17:07:10
118.   Alex41592
Class AAA right-hander Ross Ohlendorf, Class AA right-handers Phil Coke and George Kontos and Class AA outfielder Jose Tabata are the four players the Pirates received.
2008-07-25 17:07:13
119.   Who Is Karim Garcia

They spelled Marshals wrong.

2008-07-25 17:07:37
120.   Icaros

It might actually be worth it to jump. Try to land on Jones.

2008-07-25 17:07:46
121.   fanerman
115 It's still a baseball game and they're still the Dodgers. I may not have a chance to go to Dodger Stadium this year. Just go and enjoy it. And besides, the more Andruw strikes out, the higher the possibility he might actually get benched...
2008-07-25 17:08:36
122.   Icaros

No, it's a cross-promotion with the discount clothing store.

2008-07-25 17:11:49
123.   The Dude Abides
A little bit of good news for us is that Crede went on the DL today because of back problems, so that decreases the chances of Ned trading for him.
2008-07-25 17:14:25
124.   KG16
109 - I hope Kemp doesn't get any ideas...
2008-07-25 17:14:59
125.   Fallout
43 unlazy4sports
2008-07-25 17:14:59
126.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Andruw Jones is owned in 10% of ESPN fantasy leagues.

Then again, Andruw gets owned every night by opposing pitchers.

2008-07-25 17:16:06
127.   KG16
119 - alternate spelling, no indication why they used it.
2008-07-25 17:16:26
128.   Andrew Shimmin
I've seen the numbers rebutting the theory that particular starting pitchers increase ticket sales, but I wonder if anyone has studied whether starting certain players increase beer sales.
2008-07-25 17:17:32
129.   fanerman
The Machine stays in LA, according to the OC Register.
2008-07-25 17:18:11
130.   Alex41592
128 - So, Pierre IS more valuable on the field than off of it.
2008-07-25 17:19:02
131.   Who Is Karim Garcia

I actually splurged on expensive seats tonight just to be see Bills. And now this.


2008-07-25 17:22:35
132.   Who Is Karim Garcia

Maybe the Dodgers used an alternate spelling for Ethier... J-O-N-E-S.

2008-07-25 17:23:29
133.   MollyKnight
Decided to go see the Brewers and Astros at Miller Park. Feels like a college atmosphere with all the twenty-somethings out here in the parking lot cooking dogs and drinking crappy beer.
2008-07-25 17:23:49
134.   GMac In The 909
132 I can think of plenty of alternate spellings for Jones, but all of them violate Rule No. 1.
2008-07-25 17:24:47
135.   fracule
103 I find what you're implying to be interesting,
considering the prince's advisor was also his lover. (or am I
thinking of the wrong movie, it's been year.)
2008-07-25 17:27:28
136.   fanerman
135 Oh I'm not thinking of any movie in particular. "Defenestration" is one of my old history teacher's favorite words.
2008-07-25 17:29:31
137.   ToyCannon
You guys are as bad as the fans who boo Jones instead of trying to support him. I mean how many different ways can you say he sucks? At least make it a contest and make us laugh.
2008-07-25 17:32:37
138.   Bob Timmermann
"Defenestration" is usually used in reference to the city of Prague.

The Czechs had a penchant for tossing people out windows that they didn't like.

2008-07-25 17:33:15
139.   Disabled List
133 Get a bratwurst with secret sauce. Best thing there is about Milwaukee.
2008-07-25 17:34:53
140.   fanerman
138 Yeah..
2008-07-25 17:35:16
141.   fanerman
137 Thanks.
2008-07-25 17:38:19
142.   GMac In The 909
137 Should this contest include prizes?
2008-07-25 17:39:36
143.   Andrew Shimmin
I think there should be prizes, just for watching.
2008-07-25 17:39:40
144.   Bob Timmermann
It's a Czech thing, you wouldn't understand.
2008-07-25 17:39:53
145.   Gagne55
"At least make it a contest and make us laugh"

Ok, your centerfielder sucks so much he spent $18 million on heavy metal sombreros and has already worn all of them.

2008-07-25 17:40:01
146.   Icaros

Andruw Jones is but a half-eaten pork chop in the infinite garbage disposal that is our universe.

2008-07-25 17:40:11
147.   fracule
136 Oh yeah, I was talking about 103's reference to
Braveheart, and adding Defenestration to my vocabulary
has made today all worth while.
2008-07-25 17:40:21
148.   cargill06
137 we should call him the black hole to describe his sucking power
2008-07-25 17:41:19
149.   fanerman
144 I don't understand how I wouldn't understand.
2008-07-25 17:42:24
150.   cargill06
137 would we be better off on fan appreciation day call out someone's seat and have them play CF for the day?
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2008-07-25 17:43:37
151.   Jon Weisman
2008-07-25 17:43:45
152.   Bob Timmermann
That's a joke, son.
2008-07-25 17:44:52
153.   fracule
137 I really don't have any problem with Jones. Everybody
struggles. What I do have a problem with is the "Three
decker sauerkraut and toadstool sandwhich, topped with
arsenic sauce" that keeps putting him in the line-up.
2008-07-25 17:44:59
154.   fanerman
152 I now understand why I wouldn't understand.
2008-07-25 17:45:10
155.   MollyKnight
Ah!! I went Polish, with the secret sauce.

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