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Oh Really? Yes, O'Malley
2008-07-27 08:37
by Jon Weisman

Walter O'Malley goes into the National Baseball Hall of Fame today. Induction ceremonies will be broadcast on ESPN Classic and at the Hall's website, and Hall of Fame manager of visitor education James Yasko has a live blog.

Comments (118)
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2008-07-27 08:43:18
1.   Suffering Bruin
A Dodger goes in. In many ways, the Dodger. Congratulations to the O'Malley family.
2008-07-27 08:44:22
2.   Jon Weisman
Forget about not knowing what NPUT means. How does Suffering Bruin get trapped in a post that had been dormant for 12 hours?
2008-07-27 08:51:12
3.   Andrew Shimmin
I blame the media.
2008-07-27 08:52:50
4.   Bobblehead
A bruin trapped? Perhaps. Maybe it was just hibernation.

Guess I better move mine here too...

Taking my little guy to Autograph Day today.

Any tips on how it works and how to have the best experience with it?


2008-07-27 08:54:21
5.   Marty
They don't call him Suffering for nothing.
2008-07-27 08:54:25
6.   Suffering Bruin
I thought I was posting in the freshest thread.

I think I've got more sense when in the throes of insomnia.

2008-07-27 08:55:55
7.   underdog
Weird, that's the first time I recall seeing one of Jon's NPUTs sponsored by a lovely young babe. I was very impressed.

I was about to join in the Godfather/Dodgerfather Thoughts, too, but now it's too late. Well, okay, just one. Regarding Jones, I was going to suggest the Dodgers ship him to Central America, say, Panama.

But Panama won't take him. Not for a million, not for ten million.

2008-07-27 08:58:14
8.   underdog
Btw, anyone see this (pointed out by Diamond's blog)?
Blogger Alyssa Milano: Play Ethier or trade him:

You go, Alyssa!

2008-07-27 09:01:18
9.   Sagehen
Pretty sad when even Alyssa is capable of better managerial decisions than Torre.
2008-07-27 09:03:30
10.   D4P
Doesn't it seem like Alyssa and Molly should be friends? They could take their dog to the do parks, do each other's hair, have slumber parties and pillow fights...
2008-07-27 09:03:43
11.   Neal Pollack
9--well said.

Anyone want to predict our OF today? I think Ethier will start, but will Torre have the brains/guts/whatever to bench Jones, or is Kemp going to be riding the pine with his 13-game hitting streak? Put nothing past this cabal of incompetent geezers.

2008-07-27 09:03:51
12.   Marty
I'm off to Chicago today until Friday. Hopefully the Dodgers can win when I'm on the road since I'll be in Florida the following week.
2008-07-27 09:05:56
13.   Neal Pollack
10--Oh, yes, and then they can mud-wrestle and feed each other soft-serve! I love the comments on Alyssa Milano's blog. They fall just short of asking her out on a date. No one flirts with Jon like that...
2008-07-27 09:12:22
14.   berkowit28
An interesting take from Simers, of all people, on a reason why Torre keeps playing Jones (meanwhile Colletti says, correctly "That's up to Joe. I don't make the lineups.") He says "Torre is trying to buy some time for hitting instructors Don Mattingly and Jeff Pentland, who were brought in to make a player again out of Jones."

Could be. Mattingly's only just rejoined the club, is asked to help Jones, make an impression, and asks Joe for a little more time?

Torre has already shown that loyalty can matter more to him than the mundane necessities of winning games. It does make for a little more consistency than Grady Little's ever-changing muddle, but this is getting really, really stale. And stupid.

2008-07-27 09:16:47
15.   D4P
Even if it's true that Joe has faith that the new hitting coaches can turn Jones around, it doesn't follow that Jones should be playing everyday prior to his metamorphosis.
2008-07-27 09:22:11
16.   Icaros
Let's go, Shawn!
2008-07-27 09:27:17
17.   Bob Timmermann
Is George Grande going to be the MC for the HOF ceremonies? And if so, why? Why? Why?
2008-07-27 09:33:59
18.   D4P
Why ask why why why?
2008-07-27 09:35:42
19.   Bob Timmermann
Steve Dilbeck's column in the Daily News about O'Malley's induction into the HOF:

"I'm sure there was a lot to him," Scully said. "He certainly was not a saint. I'm sure he was a human being.

"But when you get into that major a role, it's like being the President of the United States in a smaller way. There's always people kicking you in the fanny. It's just part of the game. Tell me some beloved owner in baseball. And look at the commissioners. Every commissioner has been machine-gunned."

2008-07-27 09:39:19
20.   Suffering Bruin
16 LOL. Again.
2008-07-27 09:40:06
21.   Suffering Bruin
8 I always loved Alyssa Milano.
2008-07-27 09:48:50
22.   Icaros
I'm going to pull a Suffering Bruin and go post some comments at the end of the thread from when LoDuca was traded.

D4P will be there, I think.

2008-07-27 09:49:52
23.   D4P
You'll have to go to the ESPN board to find me.
2008-07-27 09:50:38
24.   Greg Brock
What if Jeff Kent shoots himself in the foot with a crossbow just so he can play through the pain of a crossbow wound and be hailed as the gamiest Dodger of all?

Junior is hit-and-miss, but that is hilarious.

2008-07-27 09:51:53
25.   Icaros

Figures you'd be so mainstream.

2008-07-27 09:54:48
26.   D4P
It was my agent's fault.
2008-07-27 09:56:23
27.   Icaros
I don't think I was commenting yet when the LoDuca trade went down, but I started soon after. I discovered and began reading DT in the spring of 2004.
2008-07-27 10:00:26
28.   Bob Timmermann
You were definitely commenting in 2005. That's when stuff started disappearing from my apartment.
2008-07-27 10:02:32
29.   Icaros

Yeah, and that's just the stuff you know about.

2008-07-27 10:07:29
30.   Bob Timmermann
Why is my checking account always about $100 lower each month than I think it should be?
2008-07-27 10:08:59
31.   Icaros

You think rent is cheap in San Francisco?

2008-07-27 10:12:15
32.   Bob Timmermann
A grouchy old journalist in Detroit hates the way baseball trade rumors are reported.

2008-07-27 10:16:45
33.   D4P
Eric Chavez called the labrum in his throwing shoulder "shredded" on Saturday after a poor throwing session. Chavez may be done as a third baseman in this league. "My career is definitely at a crossroads," he said. Chavez might be hinting at a possible move to first base, as he said he's refocused his attention on becoming a productive offensive player once again. "The way I feel about my arm, I know the end result already," he said.
2008-07-27 10:19:42
34.   Greg Brock
32 He looks like Martin Landau!

Somebody needs to introduce Martin Landau to the importance of something called "page views."

No rumors for me. Only the facts, the interviews, the analysis. Check out the rumors. If unproven, forget them. The old-fashioned way, the way I learned about proper journalism more than 50 years ago.

I wonder if Mr. Landau happened to walk to school as a child. And if the path had a sharp incline. And if said path was often covered in frozen precipitation.

2008-07-27 10:20:07
35.   Bob Timmermann
I went down to the crossroads, fell down on my knees.
I went down to the crossroads, fell down on my knees.
Asked the lord above for a labrum, save me if you please.

I went down to the crossroads, tried to hit a curve.
I went down to the crossroads, tried to hit a curve
Nobody seemed to know me, all of them passed me by.

2008-07-27 10:23:25
36.   Tripon
From the previous thread:

The scouting director who oversaw most of those disastrous Pirates drafts was Ed Creech, the same guy who wrecked the Dodger farm system before Logan White was hired. I'm amazed he was able to get another job after his tenure with the Dodgers.

Now he works for the Giants. [Rubs hands together with glee.]

Did Creech draft Tim Lincecum?

2008-07-27 10:27:30
37.   Icaros

"In my day we didn't have hair dryers, if you wanted to blow-dry your hair, you had to step outside in the middle of a hurricane! You would get your hair dried but you would also get a sharp piece of wood driven clean through your skull--'Look, I'm a human head kebab!'--that's the way it was and we liked it, we loved it! "

-Grumpy Old Man (Dana Carvey)

2008-07-27 10:32:05
38.   Greg Brock
I can't wait to tell my students "In my day, the cities didn't have universal wifi...If you wanted to check your email, you had to go to Starbucks!"

Sort of like storming Omaha Beach, except not.

2008-07-27 10:32:22
39.   silverwidow
Did Creech draft Tim Lincecum?

Dick Tidrow

2008-07-27 10:32:51
40.   Greg Brock
Old people are funny


2008-07-27 10:33:12
41.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
35 - Just so I can get the music in my head correct, is that Robert Johnson's version or Cream's?
2008-07-27 10:35:47
42.   Greg Brock
Also from the old people files, Goose Gossage is upset that people don't hate each other anymore:

Craig Calcaterra had the best quote ever about this article on BBTF, but it can't be repeated here.

2008-07-27 10:35:58
43.   Jon Weisman
34, 37 et al - You guys realize you're making fun of my point of view, of course.
2008-07-27 10:38:48
44.   Greg Brock
43 It's not the message. It's the crusty old "In my day" stuff. We all agree that the rumors are silly.

But you don't say that and then say "Gimme five bees for a nickel!"

2008-07-27 10:40:45
45.   Bob Timmermann
Unlike me, who was shamelessly trying to curry favor with Jon.

Some people at work call me "Eddie Haskell."

2008-07-27 10:42:29
46.   Bob Timmermann
My niece is reporting from Paris that she liked watching the final stage of the Tour de France. And the bikes came by eight times!
2008-07-27 10:43:20
47.   D4P
If Jon has the lineup, he can post it now. It has not been posted yet.
2008-07-27 10:45:34
48.   Jon Weisman
Just got it:

Pierre, LF
Kemp, CF
Martin, C
Kent, 2B
Loney, 1B
Garciaparra, SS
Blake, 3B
Ethier, RF
Kershaw, LHP

2008-07-27 10:46:34
49.   Greg Brock
Pierre, LF

Kemp, CF

Martin, C

Kent, 2B

Loney, 1B

Nomar, SS

Blake, 3B

Ethier, RF

Kershaw, P

And who gets to see a fictional beast pitch at the stadium today? This Guy

2008-07-27 10:48:08
50.   D4P
And who gets to see a fictional beast pitch at the stadium today? This Guy

What has two thumbs and doesn't give a crap...?

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2008-07-27 10:49:19
51.   Bob Timmermann
What about this guy?
2008-07-27 10:49:56
52.   D4P
"What About Bob" was a terrible movie. Horrible.
2008-07-27 10:50:57
53.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
I don't know which bothers me more: Our new "slugger" batting seventh, or Ethier in the 8-spot.
2008-07-27 10:52:05
54.   Greg Brock
I believe this guy will also be in attendance.

50 Steven Sondheim? Pope Benedict XVI? Lucy Lawless? Who? Who?

2008-07-27 10:53:15
55.   Bob Timmermann
Gary Cohen seems to think Tony La Russa's plan of batting the pitcher 8th is a bad idea because the pitcher's spot came up at inopportune times in Saturday's game.

Which the Cardinals won anyway. And got 21 hits.

After the game has been played a few innings how much difference does it make when the pitcher's spot comes up? The Mets could have just given an IBB to make the pitcher's spot come up anyway.

Sometimes, Cohen thinks he is the world's smartest man.

I have not yet ceded that title to him.

2008-07-27 10:53:25
56.   ToyCannon
Crap, Jones is on the bench. Torre is an idiot.

We went from having a black hole in the 8 spot for 95% of the season to having the best hitting eight spot in baseball.

2008-07-27 10:54:58
57.   berkowit28
If Kershaw can hold up, today could be fun. And/or with Kuo ready to go.

The offense is almost always something when facing a mediocre pitcher. What's this Bergmann like?

2008-07-27 10:55:03
58.   still bevens
Whats it gonna take to pry Kent from the cleanup spot? He has around 40 RBIs. That's weak at best.
2008-07-27 10:55:41
59.   Tripon

Tim Brown chimes in on the Blake trade, has the Dodgers looking for a reliever next. has a quote denying the rumor that Penny is rehabbing as a reliever. The Dodgers say he's coming back as a starter.

And wasn't Ethier batting 2nd before his benching two days ago? And why the heck is Kent batting fourth again? He has a OBP of .310! Blake isn't going to see any RBI attempts unless he goes on a furious homerun pace.

2008-07-27 10:55:49
60.   Greg Brock
Crap, Jones is on the bench.

Come again?

2008-07-27 10:56:27
61.   MonkeyBlue
Got to get the win today for Kershaw!
2008-07-27 10:56:33
62.   KG16
I will not question managerial decisions that I can not understand and instead enjoy the ride.

[repeat 10000000000000000 time]

2008-07-27 10:57:20
63.   Alex41592
48 - I'll take Ethier batting eighth over Jones batting anywhere in the lineup.
2008-07-27 10:58:37
64.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
56 - Here's the top three in games started batting eighth:
Hu - 27
DeWitt - 21
Berroa - 17
Black hole, indeed.
2008-07-27 11:01:39
65.   The Trolley Dodger
53 Maybe punishment for Ethier's comment last night? LA Times:

> Andre Ethier wasn't in the mood to talk about being left out of the lineup for the second day in a row. Though Torre has complimented Ethier for his consistency in recent games, Torre opted for an outfield that included Juan Pierre, Andruw Jones and Matt Kemp.

> "I'm not allowed to have feelings with what goes on around here," Ethier said.

2008-07-27 11:01:45
66.   D4P
The bench is a good place for Crap Jones.
2008-07-27 11:02:29
67.   Greg Brock
I was just lamenting the lack of good nicknames in baseball these days.
2008-07-27 11:02:30
68.   D4P
"I'm not allowed to have feelings with what goes on around here," Ethier said.

Rule 12 violation...?

2008-07-27 11:02:57
69.   ToyCannon
Crap, Jones is on the bench.

Off to see Kershaw today, hopefully he will make the trip worthwhile. Lately I've found many reasons to just stay home and watch the game on TV but I've decided to get off my ass for this one.

2008-07-27 11:05:59
70.   GIDP
Tried the Dodgers shuttle last night and encountered no problems. Caught the 720 from Wilshire/La Cienega at 5:50pm, transferred to the Red Line at Vermont, climbed aboard a waiting shuttle at Union Station. Ride to DS was 20 minutes. Was in my seat by 7pm.

On the way back there was a line (at 9:45) and didn't get to board the two waiting shuttles, but a third pulled up 30 seconds after they departed. Ride back to Union Station: 25 minutes. Attendance was around 42,000.

2008-07-27 11:06:39
71.   Bob Timmermann
33 pitches through 4 innings for Santana today in NY.
2008-07-27 11:07:02
72.   Andrew Shimmin
Huh. Harold Reynolds got a job with TBS. I didn't know that.
2008-07-27 11:07:55
73.   trainwreck
I love how blunt Ethier is. Too bad we will probably trade him for talking too much.
2008-07-27 11:08:19
74.   trainwreck
That's what I was wondering.
2008-07-27 11:08:44
75.   D4P
Gamers can get away with complaining about playing time.

Ethier's too pretty to be a Gamer.

2008-07-27 11:09:32
76.   Alex41592
Looks to be a great day at the ballpark. 83 and sunny. Also, the lineup looks solid and add in Kershaw. It'd be hard for me not to go to this game.
2008-07-27 11:10:28
77.   berkowit28
Until Kemp is given the cleanup spot and has to play in first or second spot, having Blake and Ethier in 7th and 8th means Kemp might at last have the opportunity for a lot of RBIs after the first inning, as long as the pitcher isn't the 3rd out and Pierre can get on base sometimes (which he is showing every sign of doing) and not 3rd out either. It will happen once or twice in the game.
2008-07-27 11:10:53
78.   Greg Brock
Unless Ethier's complains show how competitive he is. He wants to be out there. Doing it. Winning it. Feeling it. Smelling it.

He just wants to compete, man. Gamer!

2008-07-27 11:11:21
79.   Tripon
Ethier needs to play with a broken arm just to prove he's a gamer to Ned. Maybe then he can entrench his spot in the outfield.
2008-07-27 11:11:41
80.   jasonungar07
.256 /.316 /.438 /.754 Kent in 4 hole
.256 /.292 /.288 /.580 Pierre in leadoff

They have to produce more if we are to win. I am not saying they shouldn't play but I am pointing the finger at them directly. In the roles they are both being asked to perform they are failing miserably.

2008-07-27 11:12:40
81.   Tripon
Is today's game on KCAL, or FSN Prime?
2008-07-27 11:13:03
82.   Greg Brock
79 He could borrow Jeff Kent's crossbow!

Ha ha...Sigh.

2008-07-27 11:14:37
83.   Bob Timmermann
FSN Prime
2008-07-27 11:15:43
84.   willhite
Torre's batting Ethier eighth is like saying to him "I really don't want you in the lineup but they made me do it, so I'm going to bury you down here."

Am I missing something or do we have no left handed hitting players on the bench today? Of the 13 position players on the active roster, only 3 hit left handed and they're all starting. We don't even have Stultz off the bench anymore.

2008-07-27 11:17:09
85.   D4P
Ethier batting 8th should come as no surprise. Who else in the lineup (other than the pitcher) would anyone expect Ethier to bat in front of?
2008-07-27 11:20:34
86.   Tripon
I still don't get Torre's love for Kent in the 4 spot. Nomar's hitting better than him, you just got Casey Blake, he actually likes Kemp, and well, Ethier is our 2nd or 3rd best hitter. I know Kent's rep is that he's a middle of an order hitter, but not at 40, not with a .250 BA, and a .310 OBP.
2008-07-27 11:21:38
87.   still bevens
Seems like Ethier is in the 8 hole because of the L/R balance. Then how about this:


2008-07-27 11:21:53
88.   jasonungar07
85 What step is acceptance? Cause whatever step it is your a step ahead of me. I almost sense a calm about your post. Like you meditated on it and though, hit him 8th he will. No need to fight it. Fight another day.
2008-07-27 11:22:45
89.   D4P
Funny. I was just thinking a few minutes ago about how I would set the lineup, and that's exactly it. Though, come to think of it, I like the idea of the pitcher batting 8th and Pierre batting 9th.
2008-07-27 11:23:51
90.   Alex41592
With Pierre leading off somebody has to bat eighth. You can look at it like a punishment, but I look at it like the pitcher can't relax at the bottom of the order. Plus, Ethier has thrived in the eight spot in the past. I'm Mr. Positive this morning. I'll stop that immediately.
2008-07-27 11:25:11
91.   Greg Brock
There is no happiness. Only varying degrees of disappointment.

It's only a 3 today!

2008-07-27 11:25:51
92.   Bob Timmermann

However, you can go through them in a different order or skip steps. Your grief may vary.

2008-07-27 11:25:57
93.   Tripon

*A raging Ned Coletti is sheeting at Ethier's comments. "How dare he criticize playing Andruw Jones playing every day! Can't he see that Andruw Jones is being paid $18 million this year, and is our only power threat? He's just been on a little slump is all. Jones is a gamer, he's grinding it out every day, and we're going to see results soon as Jones is going to change the game we play by constantly giving us honest, good at-bats. If Ethier can't see that, then its time to trade the sissy to Oakland for Houston Street."

2008-07-27 11:28:05
94.   herchyzer
35 . That's the first popular song baseball paraphrase I've enjoyed. I especially liked the curveballs not knowing him but passing him by.
2008-07-27 11:28:09
95.   underdog
My soccer team's slog through the punishment of being in the upper division continued this morning, but at least we improved, only lost 5-2 this time and our keeper let through two he should've stopped. I also shanked a wide open shot on goal and took a ball in the jaw so I'm drinking smoothies for the rest of the day. But it was still fun!

Why do I play this sport again? May be time to hike up my pants and learn golf.

2008-07-27 11:28:23
96.   Bob Timmermann
Highly interesting game in Cleveland.
2008-07-27 11:28:39
97.   berkowit28
It really doesn't matter all that much where anyone bats after the first inning, as long as the sequence of batters works well (no black holes). There's no black hole today. Ethier batting 4th after Loney, Nomar and Blake is a second cleanup spot. It all depends who starts the inning off, which changes every inning.
2008-07-27 11:29:11
98.   Greg Brock
I have received word that one of our operatives is taking the shuttle.
2008-07-27 11:30:02
99.   underdog
Was Toy actually upset that Jones is on the bench today, or was that just an errant comma? I'm lost. I also don't mind Ethier in the 8 spot today; I think we're just not used to having someone who doesn't suck there. I'd rather switch him and Pierre, though.
2008-07-27 11:30:12
100.   D4P
I also shanked a wide open shot on goal and took a ball in the jaw so I'm drinking smoothies for the rest of the day

Mmmmm...Nike Protein Berry Workout...

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2008-07-27 11:31:01
101.   D4P
Highly interesting game in Cleveland

Is Meloan doing the interesting thing?

2008-07-27 11:32:16
102.   underdog
100 - Read my mind, although I refuse to call it that without someone paying me first so I annoy the order-takers by asking for it by old name. I wonder how my stomach will take smoothies after drinking a Starbuck's energy drink this morning. {gurgle}

Go Dodgers!

2008-07-27 11:33:25
103.   Icaros

Thanks for wasting my time.

2008-07-27 11:33:27
104.   willhite

You say that Ethier is in the 8 hole because of L/R balance but then you bat Pierre and Kershaw back to back and have Nomar, Blake and Kent hitting together. You're out of balance anyway.

I wonder if any major league mgr these days actually determines his order based on L/R splits against instead of just how they hold the bat.

2008-07-27 11:34:20
105.   Bob Timmermann
Think nothing of it!

Can I have my blender back?

2008-07-27 11:35:44
106.   underdog
Stupid Craig Monroe... grumble...

It was also interesting how Cleveland scored their run earlier:
"- S. Fasano hit sacrifice fly to right, S. Choo scored"

Just to see Fasano playing and contributing seems like a disruption of the space-time continuum.

2008-07-27 11:36:27
107.   Greg Brock
Enjoy the game, everybody.

May the fictional beast miss many a bat, and slay the mighty baseballers from the District of Columbia.

2008-07-27 11:38:29
108.   underdog
Anything new on the Brett Favre Saga? I couldn't sleep last night worrying about it.
2008-07-27 11:40:22
109.   berkowit28
It looks like Hu, playing SS, went 4 for 5 yesterday for Vegas, with a double, two triples and 4 RBI. It seems like he can see the ball now. And the other old whatever Maza, playing 2nd, went 4 for 4 (all singles) plus a walk. DeWitt didn't play. (Tiffee, at 3rd, 0 for 4.)
2008-07-27 11:40:43
110.   trainwreck
I heard he believes we should bench Ethier for Andruw Jones too.
2008-07-27 11:43:34
111.   herchyzer
79 . He could get a compound fracture to his ankle and have it bleed through his sock. That one's always good for grit-points.

Thank the Lord above for this lineup.

A little prayer: Dear Lord, Thank you for this lineup. Only next time, could you have Ethier bat second, Kemp fourth, and Kent maybe eighth, if it won't hurt his grit-pride too much?

2008-07-27 11:46:21
112.   Ken Noe
My analysis of the order:
Pierre--because he's "a true leadoff hitter"
Kemp--because after JP flys out, someone actually has to get on base for...
Martin--because he can hit
Kent--because he could hit once and deserves vet respect
Loney--because he's hitting over .300!
Garciaparra--because hit a homer last night
Blake, 3B--because he's a gamer!
Ethier, RF--because he's the one left, and that Noe will just be glad he's playing
Kershaw--because pitchers hit last
2008-07-27 11:47:55
113.   underdog
I would like to throw in a little prayer for Kershaw to mix his pitches well and miss batters today, and get a little run support. Thank you.
2008-07-27 11:49:23
114.   Alex41592
I'm anticipating this start today and Kershaw's next start Friday against Randy Johnson.
2008-07-27 11:50:03
115.   Bob Timmermann
A compound fracture of one's ankle would look a lot worse than just having blood coming through your sock.

That would put you out of action for close to a year.

2008-07-27 11:51:58
116.   Icaros

Robin Ventura's didn't look so bad. Sissy.

2008-07-27 11:54:15
117.   Jon Weisman
2008-07-27 11:56:41
118.   ToyCannon
Jason Bergman's mom prayed for the same thing for her own son but also asked for Kershaw to suck. Just wanted to let you know so that if your prayers are not answered it was not because God didn't hear you but because you were canceled out and she lit more candles while praying. Plus she was kneeling. My sources say, you weren't.

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