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Deadline Distractor: Dodgers-Giants Flashback
2008-07-30 16:33
by Jon Weisman

The following was a real game, which I am presenting not in real time. Keep checking for updates.

Don't try to guess the game if you don't know it, and don't spoil it if you do. Just enjoy it.

Top of the first:
Sutton pitching.
Bonds singles to left.
Maddox pops to third.
Speier grounds to the pitcher, Bonds takes second.
McCovey singles to right, Bonds scores. Giants lead, 1-0.
Fuentes doubles to center, McCovey scores. Giants lead, 2-0.
Rader grounds to short.

Bottom of the first:
Stone pitching.
Lacy walks.
Mota grounds to second, Lacy takes second.
Davis homers. Game tied, 2-2.
Buckner grounds to short.
Parker singles to second base.
Valentine strikes out.

Top of the second:
Gallagher grounds to second.
Henderson doubles to right.
Stone strikes out.
Bonds grounds to third.

Bottom of the second:
Russell singles to second base.
Yeager strikes out; Russell caught stealing.
Sutton strikes out.

Top of the third:
Maddox strikes out.
Speier strikes out.
McCovey grounds to first.

Bottom of the third:
Lacy grounds to short.
Mota pops to second.
Davis grounds to second.

Top of the fourth:
Fuentes grounds to short.
Rader grounds to second.
Gallagher walks.
Henderson strikes out.

Bottom of the fourth:
Buckner pops to short.
Parker homers. Dodgers lead, 3-2.
Valentine walks.
Russell walks.
Yeager walks.
Sutton flies to right.
Lacy triples to right and scores on Fuentes' error. Dodgers lead, 7-2.
Mota flies to left.

Top of the fifth:
Arnold, batting for Stone, doubles to left.
Bonds singles to center, Arnold takes third.
Maddox grounds into a double play, Arnold scores. Dodgers lead, 7-3.
Speier doubles to left.
McCovey pops to third.

Bottom of the fifth:
McMahon pitching.
Davis pops to short.
Buckner doubles to left.
Parker strikes out.
Valentine fouls to first.

Top of the sixth:
Fuentes flies to center.
Rader doubles to left.
Gallagher grounds to third.
Henderson singles to center, Rader scores. Dodgers lead, 7-4.
Howard, batting for McMahon, walks.
Bonds homers. Game tied, 7-7.
Maddox singles to center.
Mikkelsen pitching. Lefebvre playing third base.
Maddox steals second, advances to third on throwing error.
Speier hit by pitch.
McCovey singles to third base, Maddox scores, Speier to second. Giants lead, 8-7.
Fuentes singles to center, Speier scores, McCovey to second. Giants lead, 9-7.
Rader flies to center.

Bottom of the sixth:
Moffitt pitching.
Russell triples to right.
Yeager singles to left, Russell scores. Giants lead, 9-8.
Lefebvre strikes out.
Lacy bunt single to third, Yeager takes second.
Mota reaches on error by McCovey, Yeager takes third, Lacy second.
Davis singles to right, Yeager and Lacy score, Mota takes third. Dodgers lead, 10-9.
Johnson pitching.
Buckner grounds into double play.

Top of the seventh:
Gallagher strikes out.
Henderson reaches base on Russell error.
Johnson sacrifices, Henderson takes second.
Bonds flies to center.

Bottom of the seventh:
Parker flies to center.
Mikkelsen strikes out.
Russell singles to left.
Wild pitch, Russell takes second.
Yeager grounds out, 1-6-3.

Top of the eighth:
Maddox strikes out.
Speier strikes out.
McCovey walks.
Reberger runs for McCovey.
Fuentes grounds into forceout.

Bottom of the eighth:
Barr pitching. Goodson at first base.
Lefebvre walks.
Wills runs for Lefebvre.
Lacy sacrifices Wills to second.
Mota grounds to second, Wills takes third.
Davis singles to left, Wills scores. Dodgers lead, 11-9.
Buckner grounds to short.

Top of the ninth:
Wills at third base.
Rader singles to center.
Gallagher grounds into double play.
Henderson singles.
Goodson homers. Game tied, 11-11.
Bonds doubles to center.
Maddox grounds to second.

Bottom of the ninth:
Parker grounds to short.
Crawford, batting for Mikkelsen, flies to left.
Russell homers. Dodgers win, 12-11.

Comments (117)
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2008-07-30 16:49:12
1.   Eric Stephen
I hope Billie Jean King's brother sees some action!
2008-07-30 16:51:36
2.   Bob Timmermann
This game is going to take a long time even if it's in real time.
2008-07-30 16:52:23
3.   Jon Weisman
2 - No spoilers!
2008-07-30 16:53:44
4.   tethier
Chris Speier batting third and Tito Fuentes batting 5th? Strange, they couldn't been very good that year.
2008-07-30 16:54:44
5.   Vishal
well, if there's no guessing or spoiling, i'm going to offer up a non-related comment. :)

i just heard this song on PRI's "the world" radio show and after looking it up when i got home, i've been obsessed with it for the past hour so i thought i'd share:

2008-07-30 16:55:52
6.   dzzrtRatt
Almost 5 o'clock and all is well.

P.S. So far, Teixiera has no home runs for the Angels.

2008-07-30 16:56:26
7.   Bob Timmermann
That song would be far more catchy if I had my speakers on in my office.
2008-07-30 16:57:34
8.   Vishal
7 headphones, bob. it's worth it :)
2008-07-30 16:59:50
9.   trainwreck
That guy pwns Gunther.
2008-07-30 17:03:23
10.   Lexinthedena
5 Gitar, Gitar, Gitar!

Should be Joe Beimel's entrance music.

2008-07-30 17:04:37
11.   Ian Capilouto
I am sure this question has been asked a lot of times here, but I am going to ask it anyway. On the scoreboard in right field at Dodger Stadium where they keep track of the strikeouts with the little "k's" why are some of them turned backwards? Is it to prevent the spelling of "KKK?" Several people have asked me about it when at a game and I never can give a definite answer. I just saw it again on the Angel game in Boston
2008-07-30 17:04:53
12.   silverwidow

Orlando Cabrera for Derek Lowe

Greg Maddux for Two "C" prospects

New rotation...


2008-07-30 17:06:04
13.   KG16
11 - backwards "k"s are for strike outs swinging, regular "k"s are for looking.

or vice versa.

2008-07-30 17:06:50
14.   trainwreck
Haha, Broncos are releasing Lynch.
2008-07-30 17:07:17
15.   KG16
13 - sorry, backwards is looking, regular is swinging
2008-07-30 17:08:58
16.   Dave60
Thanks for picking a game with Dirty Al Gallagher. He brings back good memories.

Dirty Al was the field manager for a minor league ballclub of which I was part-owner. Two thoughts about Al:

(1) He truly deserved the nickname. The man could look like Pigpen after hitting infield grounders.

(2) He once volunteered that his favorite player of all time was Junior Gilliam. He thought that Gilliam played the game that way it was meant to be played.

He and I had a good relationship up to the day I fired him.

2008-07-30 17:11:17
17.   Alex41592
0 - I would just like to say that I am totally in favor of this becoming a regular thing. Maybe a weekly thing?
2008-07-30 17:11:33
18.   Ian Capilouto
15 Thanks KG16. I would have had no idea that was the reason.
2008-07-30 17:12:49
19.   bhsportsguy
According to Total Baseball, The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Baseball, Third Edition, sportswriter Henry Chadwick is credited with inventing, in the 1850s, the baseball scoring system the media and fans still use today.

He was the first person to assign letters for each play that could take place on the field and numbers to every defensive player on the field. That way he could record the result of every at bat easily and quickly. Chadwick needed to use the letter "S" for sacrifice, so he decided a strikeout would be recorded as the letter "K," which was the last letter in the word "struck"—a common term for striking out.

Take note that when the letter "K" appears backwards it means the player struck out "looking," or struck out without swinging at the third strike

However the official scoring rules designate the term "SO" for strike outs.

2008-07-30 17:13:45
20.   Bob Timmermann
You know there are books in libraries where you can look up stuff like this....
2008-07-30 17:15:05
21.   Dave60
19 "However the official scoring rules designate the term "SO" for strike outs."

The official scoring rules would take the romance out of Valentine's Day.

2008-07-30 17:15:10
22.   bhsportsguy
19 When I noted that I saw Bob dutifully put 2-3 under his "K" at the game over the weekend, Bob gave me a look like well that's what happened isn't it.
2008-07-30 17:17:18
23.   trainwreck
I should try keeping score at a baseball game once.
2008-07-30 17:17:34
24.   Ian Capilouto
19 I figured that the "k" was for striKeout, and I have explained that several times to non superfans with me at a game. But they always end asking why some "k's" are backwards. And that was one that I never knew. Maybe if I kept score at games I would have known this. Anyway, thanks for the info.
2008-07-30 17:18:00
25.   Gagne55
Tonights line-up:

Kemp. RF
Blake. 3B
Martin. C
Kent. 2B
Loney. 1B
Jones. CF
Ethier. LF
Berroa. SS
Billingsley. RHP

So, Jones back. Pierre out. Nomar still hurt.

2008-07-30 17:18:00
26.   fanerman
23 I've never ever seen the card thing you keep score on.
2008-07-30 17:20:53
27.   Eric Stephen
It's best to have your own scorebook rather than use the scorecards available at the ballpark, mostly because of space issues. I like extra lines for substitutions.
2008-07-30 17:21:19
28.   Bob Timmermann
I guess I know what to put on the agenda for the classes in October. I hope the rest of the students don't mind.
2008-07-30 17:22:19
29.   Tripon
The Astros are close to a deal with the Yankees that would send reliever LaTroy Hawkins to Houston for a low minor-leaguer, according to a source with knowledge of the discussions. Hawkins would be the second prospective free agent the Astros have traded for this month. They also obtained rent-a-starter Randy Wolf from San Diego on July 22.
2008-07-30 17:23:16
30.   Bob Timmermann
The official scorer doesn't actually keep an official play-by-play. S/he just turns in a sheet with totals for all the batters, pitchers, and fielders.
2008-07-30 17:23:18
31.   the2pin
Does anyone know if the Dodgers are in on any power bats with the deadline winding down?

I like (some) of our young guys as much as anyone, but how long are the Dodgers going to go with Jeff Kent as a cleanup hitter? It's freaking embarassing.

I'd give my [non-dominant hand] pinky finger for an exciting, game changing bat like Manny in the lineup.

2008-07-30 17:24:16
32.   KG16
20 - or, you know, wikipedia, when all else fails.
2008-07-30 17:24:33
33.   Ian Capilouto
20 Haha yes, you are right....Internet vs. actual books. The modern day librarian conundrum.....
2008-07-30 17:24:50
34.   Eric Stephen
For the record, I would also trade the2pin's pinky finger for Manny Ramirez.
2008-07-30 17:25:25
35.   Bob Timmermann
That conundrum is covered on Day 3.

But not by me.

2008-07-30 17:26:50
36.   KG16
34 - only if the package includes Jones and/or Pierre.
2008-07-30 17:27:17
37.   underdog
God, what are the Astros doing? Delusional...


Bummer about Lynch, poor guy, though he seemed done even last year.

2008-07-30 17:27:40
38.   Tripon
Who needs librarians anyway? Libraries should be run by robots with lasers in their mouths.
2008-07-30 17:28:00
39.   Andrew Shimmin
If this game were really happening, Gen3Blue would be griping about leaving Buckner at second, not putting the Giants away.
2008-07-30 17:28:15
40.   Rob M
I feel like I know where the game recap is going, but I guess there's a moratorium on speculation.
2008-07-30 17:28:56
41.   KG16
38 - careful, Bob is actually a cyborg and doesn't take kindly to robots. unless they are made of nails and play center field.
2008-07-30 17:28:58
42.   Bob Timmermann
The robots with lasers in their mouths are covered on Day 4.
2008-07-30 17:29:29
43.   Michael D
As long as Kemp and Ethier are in the lineup at the same time I really don't care who sits out of Jones or Pierre. They could go have a steel cage match for the final outfield spot for all I care.
2008-07-30 17:30:27
44.   Rob M
40 Baseball Reference tells me that my unspoken speculation was wrong.
2008-07-30 17:30:37
45.   KG16
43 - i'd pay 29.95 to see that on pay per view.
2008-07-30 17:30:40
46.   trainwreck
I'm going to cry if the Raiders pick him up.
2008-07-30 17:31:11
47.   Lexinthedena
41 I wonder if Sean Young digs librarians...
2008-07-30 17:31:36
48.   fanerman
43 I'd pay to see that.
2008-07-30 17:31:37
49.   Andrew Shimmin
And here's where Gen3Blue would be saying I-told-you-so.
2008-07-30 17:31:46
50.   Alex41592
43 - Pierre would just run around the ring the entire match and Jones would swing wildly at him but would come up empty each time. The match would end in a draw and Ethier would somehow be the loser.
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2008-07-30 17:32:27
51.   Bob Timmermann
If there is a God, the answer would be no.
2008-07-30 17:32:34
52.   Jon Weisman
40 - You're free to react to the action - in fact, I welcome comments as if this were an acutal game. That's supposed to be the fun part. But if you know what happens, don't give it away.
2008-07-30 17:32:40
53.   Zak
Darn it! You cannot walk the guy in front of Bonds and let him beat you... even in the 90s. Come on Sutton!
2008-07-30 17:33:42
54.   Dave G
Another non-related comment--
Every so often you remember why you actually go to games rather than watch on TV. I attended last night and just had a lovely time. In the stretch I looked up into the press box, and Vin was standing up, singing "Take me out to the ballgame" like everyone else. What an inspiring sight--how he could do games for the last 60 years and never get tired of just singing along with the crowd. It was just a beautiful sight.

And then in the 8th and 9th this older gentleman was sitting right behind us, and we began having a conversation because he was obviously quite knowledgable. "Oh yeah, I threw BP here... used to be such a pitcher's park. They moved home plate forward--twice! And the seats on the side of course weren't there. They'd bring in Frank Robinson, all these sluggers and they'd hit 15, 20 homeruns--you'd pitch BP and say 'oh, that one's gone' and it'd one-hop the wall! Those were the days when it was really good to be a pitcher here." After he left to go back to his family, we asked the guy who sat next to him "who was that?"
"Oh, some old ballplayer, pitched for the Dodgers a while back. Name of Ralph."
"Ralph? Ralph BRANCA?"
"Yea, that's it."
"We just sat here chatting with Ralph Branca!!"
Just another evening at Dodger stadium...

2008-07-30 17:34:05
55.   the2pin
No, seriously. Are the Dodgers involved at all? I'm really asking because I'd like to know. We need a power bat. Kent's OBP/slugging is .305/.402.
2008-07-30 17:34:05
56.   fanerman
37 What'd the Astros do?
2008-07-30 17:36:46
57.   underdog
56 - Apparently trade for LaTroy Hawkins. Why, I don't know.

46 It wouldn't shock me. :-)

2008-07-30 17:37:45
58.   underdog
Okay, good luck Dodgers, in both your historical game here and in the new game tonight! Check in with y'all in a few hours.

Oh, and no stupid trades while I'm gone, okay?

2008-07-30 17:38:14
59.   Who Is Karim Garcia

The Astros have the worst farm system in baseball. It's not even close. I'm assuming they are trying to compile picks, but I dont know what picks they'd get for Hawkins and Wolf, assuming they didnt accept arby.

2008-07-30 17:38:17
60.   Jon Weisman
55 - Are you under the impression we have a pipeline to the front office?
2008-07-30 17:39:29
61.   Ian Capilouto
42 Awesome, I can't wait!
2008-07-30 17:39:29
62.   ToyCannon
Going to be hard to beat that for post of the day.
2008-07-30 17:39:39
63.   goofus
41 I like Sean Young, especially in "Blade Runner".
2008-07-30 17:41:25
64.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Yeager with the single. Clutch.
2008-07-30 17:43:14
65.   ToyCannon
Lee Lacy is a hitting machine and that Valentin looks like a 5 tool talent.

Did anyone notice the post from the last thread that had Dandy Andy at 2nd base and Dewitt at 3rd base. Do we dare to dream?

2008-07-30 17:43:55
66.   ToyCannon
2008-07-30 17:44:01
67.   bhsportsguy
55 As far as been reported, the Dodgers are not involved in any major discussions for any upgrades in the every day lineup at this time.
2008-07-30 17:44:05
68.   scooplew
25 How often has Pierre, since he came to the Dodgers, been healthy and not been in the starting lineup? This is exciting. I thought his presence was guaranteed in granite.
2008-07-30 17:46:19
69.   GMac In The 909
60 You don't?
2008-07-30 17:46:55
70.   sporky
65 The LV3 are 3-3, and DeWitt has turned two double plays.
2008-07-30 17:47:12
71.   trainwreck
I liked Sean Young in Fatal Instinct.
2008-07-30 17:48:04
72.   sporky
70 4 for 5. LaRoche has a double, too.
2008-07-30 17:49:07
73.   the2pin
60 I'm assuming the people on this blog are more knowledgeable than I am, since I've been out of the country for the past few days.

Or maybe I've come to the wrong place for that kind of speculation and insight. Perhaps I should simply grab a hand, smile wide, and join in the Kumbaya about how Andre Ethier is going to turn into an All-Star, how Hu is going to turn into Ozzie Smith, or about how Jason Schmidt is going to turn into the tooth fairy.

Excellent article on yahoo sports about how the "Dodgers have become baseball's version of the Clippers," except, of course, "the Clippers have won 10 more playoff games" in the past 20 years.

Come on, Dodgers! Make a move.

2008-07-30 17:52:53
74.   trainwreck
Hey, come on now. We don't write positive things about Jason Schmidt.
2008-07-30 17:53:24
75.   Zak
Only morons would compare the playoffs system in the NBA to the MLB. I don't quite have a word for those who cite those stats from an article.
2008-07-30 17:53:56
76.   fanerman
73 Have you looked at the moves the Dodgers have made recently? Andruw Jones, Juan Pierre, Jason Schmidt. The less moves they make, the better off they'll be.

"Trying to make a move" is how the Dodgers have been in purgatory for 2 decades. Maybe they should try something else.

2008-07-30 17:54:08
77.   bhsportsguy
73 Certainly a lot of people here are following the trade talks and speculation but frankly we all (and even Jon) rely on press reports about these rumors. And frankly, the pattern for the Ned Colletti Dodgers is to pretty much surprise us when they make a deal.

And really, there isn't a deal out there that wouldn't hurt the team in another position.

I understand that you are unhappy with Kent batting cleanup, there is a long line of folks with you there but unless someone decides to hand the Dodgers a player, pretty much the dye has been cast as far as any outside help coming to the Dodgers this year.

2008-07-30 17:54:31
78.   Icaros
Ken Rosenthal in the house, apparently.
2008-07-30 17:54:42
79.   Eric Stephen
I would suggest reading the past few days of comments, since you have been out of the country for a few days. Many trade options have been discussed.

Or, since you seem to have everyone's opinions narrowed down into a nice, neat box, I guess there's no need for perusing previous comments.

Which begs the question, why did you ask?

2008-07-30 17:54:53
80.   Wilbert Robinson
LaRoche is 2 for 2 with a single and double in Vegas tonight so far.
2008-07-30 17:55:21
81.   Jon Weisman
73 - You don't have to be snide. It has nothing to do without what the Dodgers shouuld or shouldn't do.

The point is, all there are right now are rumors. The Dodgers are having talks. Whether that means anything is complete speculation. I did my best in the previous post to offer some analysis. But what else is there to say?

2008-07-30 17:56:45
82.   ToyCannon
I only sing Kumbaya in a circle of friends with my Gaylord Perry hand but for some reason no one will reach for it.
2008-07-30 17:57:10
83.   sporky
I'm tempted to use the phrase "fabulously douchey" again.
2008-07-30 17:57:51
84.   trainwreck
Still funny and reminds me of Absolutely Fabulous.
2008-07-30 17:59:33
85.   Humma Kavula
Has anyone listened to The Baseball Project? Downloaded it weeks ago (apparently) and just now getting to listening. Pretty good, methinks. I like track 2, which is entitled "Ted [Rule 1] Williams." The lyrics are fuzzy, but it seems to be about how anything you might do, that guy did better.
2008-07-30 18:01:27
86.   ToyCannon
Andy Marte showing some life. Amazing what a few games in a row will do.
2008-07-30 18:01:32
87.   dzzrtRatt
If I decide to change my handle, here are my three choices:

--Andre Ethier is going to turn into an All-Star

--Hu is going to turn into Ozzie Smith

--Jason Schmidt is going to turn into the tooth fairy

I just can't decide!

2008-07-30 18:01:40
88.   Wilbert Robinson
Listening to the 51s infield consisting of DeWitt (2b), LaRoche (3B), Hu (SS) has turned 3 DPs in 3 innings. Also Repko is doing a lot of hustling.
2008-07-30 18:03:50
89.   Jon Weisman
I guess the 51s were a bigger draw than the '72s.
2008-07-30 18:04:03
90.   Humma Kavula
Responding to my own 85 ...

They feel about Ted Rule One Williams like I feel about Paul Newman.

Comment #40ish.

2008-07-30 18:04:36
91.   sporky
Can't Jason Schmidt be the Red Dragon? Tooth fairy isn't manly enough.
2008-07-30 18:05:04
92.   Rob M
Rumors of ManRam to Florida, Bay to Boston, Hermida to Pittsburg and several prospects moving around. Damn, can't believe Florida is picking up salary. Or is Boston sending cash?
2008-07-30 18:05:14
93.   fanerman
89 I think you should comment what you update as to what's happening with the game.
2008-07-30 18:05:18
94.   the2pin
I saw your post and your analysis, which was good. I assumed -- incorrectly, obviously -- that people might want to discuss the team and the moves that can be made.

Just because Ned has made some disastrous moves recently does not mean that the team could not benefit from a sensible trade.

I don't pretend to have the opinions of the forum tied up in a "nice, neat little box," but I don't understand why people were so defensive when I suggested that the team should make a move.

We are a .500 ballclub. That's the reality. Woe betide the person who suggests that our team has holes.

The chorus of "yes" men is comical. Yes, I am a bitter Dodgers fan, but I am a fan just like those of you who disagree with my opinion. That I favor bold moves to improve what has, for the bulk of my adult lifetime, been a mediocre team does not make me any less of a fan. Because idiotic moves have been made in the past does not mean that trades cannot be beneficial or that the Dodgers are OK with a .400 slugger batting cleanup.

2008-07-30 18:05:23
95.   Wilbert Robinson
89 Yay we win!
2008-07-30 18:06:01
96.   Humma Kavula
87 All I know is that last night, I lost a tooth, and at 2 in the morning, I woke to find Jason Schmidt in my bedroom, putting a quarter under my pillow.
2008-07-30 18:06:07
97.   Zak
So seriously, they let Mikkelson come out in the top of the 9th. Or did I miss a pitching change?
2008-07-30 18:06:39
98.   Alex41592
Russell bails out Alston for leaving Mikkelsen in the game WAY too long.
2008-07-30 18:07:37
99.   fanerman
94 I understand your frustration, but like they say, "don't confuse activity with progress." And that's what the Dodgers have been doing for years.

As for Kent, he's pretty unlucky this year and has been hitting the ball better than his numbers would indicate, though the simple solution would be to move him down in the line-up.

2008-07-30 18:07:53
100.   D4P
I woke to find Jason Schmidt in my bedroom, putting a quarter under my pillow


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2008-07-30 18:07:58
101.   Wilbert Robinson
98 Maybe we should make him the manager.
2008-07-30 18:08:12
102.   fanerman
93 Nevermind. That game happened WAY too fast.
2008-07-30 18:08:51
103.   sporky
96 That's beyond creepy.
2008-07-30 18:09:53
104.   Jon Weisman
94 - Discussion is entirely welcome, and no one said anything to indicate otherwise.

Getting upset that we don't know what's going to happen - and then using it as an excuse to break the site rules and rip the commenters here - seems a bit much.

You brought all the negativity in this converation with comment 73. That's why people got defensive. No one minds that you want the Dodgers to make a move. But don't make fun of commenters here and then act all offended when people don't like it.

2008-07-30 18:10:00
105.   trainwreck
Are you sure he didn't do things to you?
2008-07-30 18:11:15
106.   Icaros
Okay, let's talk trades. Anyone think we can get Jason Bay for Kemp, LaRoche, Billingsley, and Broxton?

Torre would still bat Kent cleanup.

2008-07-30 18:11:47
107.   Jon Weisman
94 - Among the guidelines on the sidebar, you broke #2, #3, #6 and #7. That's the problem.
2008-07-30 18:11:58
108.   Humma Kavula
What happens in my bedroom stays between me, my teeth, and Jason Schmidt.
2008-07-30 18:12:07
109.   Andrew Shimmin
I tried to get DTers to watch (and discuss) the National Book Awards on CSPAN once, but nobody bit. It hurt me deeply. I still haven't entirely forgiven you people.
2008-07-30 18:12:46
110.   Icaros

What are books?

2008-07-30 18:13:08
111.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2008-07-30 18:13:44
112.   the2pin
I have just one other question. How was it that the Yankees were able to get Nady so cheaply? Are other teams demanding more from the Dodgers, or are we overvaluing our own prospects?
2008-07-30 18:13:52
113.   GMac In The 909
96 I'm shocked his shoulder allowed for him to pick up a pillow.
2008-07-30 18:14:01
114.   D4P
It hurt me deeply

Surely you can't be talking about feelings...

2008-07-30 18:17:24
115.   Andrew Shimmin
110- I suppose you think it's funny, funny-man, that I still sometimes lie awake at night crying about it.
2008-07-30 18:18:47
116.   Icaros

Crying yourself to sleep at night? Welcome to my world.

2008-07-30 18:21:36
117.   Jacob Burch
112 It wasn't exactly chump change (Tabata was a top 40 prospect before the year started) for a career first half player playing well over his means. I still think it was a fine deal for the Yankees, but it wasn't a landslide.

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