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July 30 Game Chat
2008-07-30 18:12
by Jon Weisman
Comments (381)
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2008-07-30 18:17:05
1.   Humma Kavula
As I listen, the Baseball Project album is making the leap from pretty great to actually great.
2008-07-30 18:18:53
2.   the2pin
Rule #2? I attacked no poster. I was attached for suggesting an (in these parts) unconventional strategy. I'm not being argumentative -- I'm not trying to, anyway. My belief in the mediocrity of this team is deeply and honestly felt. I want the best, but I question whether their best is good enough. Hyperbole and sarcasm? Are these not two of the most effective methods of communication? Is it hyperbole to question why the Dodgers have been ineffective in the playoffs for twenty years? That's not hyperbole, it's reality. Perhaps your rules are obfuscating your eyes.

I'm gone for the night. Goodnight, all.

2008-07-30 18:19:08
3.   Michael D
I always try to make it a point to watch Billingsley games so I hope we get a treat tonight. Hopefully this is another start to us simply calling him #1.
2008-07-30 18:19:09
4.   Alex41592
Really interesting albeit far fetched rumor from ESPN:

Manny to the Marlins for Jeremy Hermida, Ryan Tucker and Mike Stanton they would then spin them off to Pittsburgh for Jason Bay.

2008-07-30 18:20:17
5.   Icaros
Another DT martyr come and gone.
2008-07-30 18:28:41
6.   imperabo
Hyperbole is the most awesome and effective debating force in the history of this or any other universe.
2008-07-30 18:29:37
7.   imperabo
And sarcasm is twice as good.
2008-07-30 18:30:09
8.   Bob Timmermann
I've always found it to be a bit of a crapshoot.
2008-07-30 18:30:48
9.   RIYank
4 That's all over the air waves. Why far-fetched? The question, I guess, is why the Marlins want to end up with an incredibly expensive, old player. Maybe Boston pays a bunch of his salary?
2008-07-30 18:31:15
10.   skybluesky
1 I had the same reaction with the Baseball Project CD, at first it's just kind of a fun little novelty, but the more you listen, the more you realize how good it is. The Dodger-related songs are very cool, too. Only problem is the one about Fernando is sung completely in Spanish, so I have no idea what the words are.
2008-07-30 18:32:02
11.   Bob Timmermann
The Marlins wouldn't have to pay much since the season is close to over and he might just get the Marlins into first place in the NL Middlin' East.
2008-07-30 18:32:05
12.   Alex41592
9 - I think you answered your own question. That's happening a lot around here lately.
2008-07-30 18:33:33
13.   MC Safety
"Are you under the impression we have a pipeline to the front office?" is the answer/question a commenter gets when asking if there were any rumblings on the power bat front.

I knew Jon hated the deadline, but yikes.

2008-07-30 18:33:46
14.   Tripon
Is Boston can get Bay for Manny, that is a fantastic return for him. The Red Sox needs to get rid of Manny if only because Boston is addicted to Manny's sweet words of Manny Being Manny. (As for Gammon's saying its all Manny's fault, who the hell gave out info that Manny's intentionally checked out for a strike out a couple of weeks ago? You're telling me the Red Sox didn't leak that to make Manny look like a jerk?) There's no good or bad guy in the Manny Daytime soap, just two sides who just need to stay away from each other.
2008-07-30 18:35:37
15.   max power
I'm not swayed by any kind of attack that doesn't involve someone being called sheeple.

In this case, I would have preferred "Perhaps your rules are obfuscating the eyes of you sheeple"

or possibly

"Perhaps your rules are obfuscating your sheeple eyes."

2008-07-30 18:37:04
16.   KG16
8 - Slowly, I turn... step by step...
2008-07-30 18:37:18
17.   Alex41592
Mike Jacobs is out of the game in Florida.
2008-07-30 18:39:16
18.   Bob Timmermann
Wouldn't that just be a regular defensive replacement? Who would want Mike Jacobs?
2008-07-30 18:39:20
19.   RIYank
11 True. And, if he makes the difference between post-season and no post-season, he more than pays for that salary.

So, if it does make some financial sense for Florida, why is the rumor far-fetched, 4 and 12 ?

2008-07-30 18:40:39
20.   trainwreck
Newest rumor is that Jack Wilson is now involved in the three-way deal.

Yes, make sure Ned can't trade for him.

2008-07-30 18:41:34
21.   Alex41592
18 - Why, the Giants of course according to Will Carroll. It would be for Bengie Molina, but that's just speculation.
2008-07-30 18:41:43
22.   Travis08
17 Mike Jacobs leaves a lot of games early for defensive or platoon reasons - in July, he's only completed 7 of the 20 games he started.
2008-07-30 18:41:45
23.   Wilbert Robinson
Who would want Mike Jacobs?


2008-07-30 18:42:59
24.   larry slimfast
8 How do the outcomes line up with the possibilities in a hyperbole crapshoot?
2008-07-30 18:43:31
25.   Who Is Karim Garcia
How hot is Erin Andrews?

Which 3 team deal is Wilson involved in?

2008-07-30 18:44:25
26.   trainwreck
Very, even though she's a Gator.

The Manny/Bay/Hermida one.

2008-07-30 18:44:34
27.   Wilbert Robinson
24. It is more like padugi than craps, IMO.
2008-07-30 18:45:14
28.   Alex41592
19 - Because, I heard Steve Phillips give this rumor at first. So, I had reason to be skeptical. This rumor is picking up steam but sorry if I think Manny won't be traded. I only have seen this movie 4 to 5 times before.
2008-07-30 18:45:58
29.   RIYank
18 When I heard that a large bucket of baseballs was removed from the Astros game, I knew Cashman had traded LaTroy Hawkins.
2008-07-30 18:47:05
30.   Jon Weisman
13 - I guess I didn't know how to respond to the question, "Are the Dodgers in on any trades?" Of course, they're in discussions, yet how can you respond to that question without bringing up rumors that probably have no basis in reality.

But I guess the verdict is that I was at fault. Comment 73 in the last thread threw me for a loop, as it took my "I don't know" and turned it into something else, considering I've espoused none of the three opinions about Ethier, Hu and Schmidt the commenter suggested.

But I guess I overreacted, so I apologize.

2008-07-30 18:47:38
31.   Wilbert Robinson
27. Badugi?
2008-07-30 18:47:48
32.   RIYank
28 Ah, I didn't know Steve Phillips was reporting it! In that case, I'm with you, 10 to 1 against.
2008-07-30 18:48:33
33.   Jon Weisman
13 - By the way, I don't hate the trading deadline at all. I just hate bad journalism and the effect it has on people. The fact that I admit that I don't have inside information on the Dodgers - I don't know how that gets translated as "Jon hates the trading deadline" or "Jon doesn't want the Dodgers to improve."
2008-07-30 18:49:21
34.   Jon Weisman
33 - Or, just to head it off, "Jon likes 'Becker.' "
2008-07-30 18:52:15
35.   the2pin
It's all good. I apologize as well. This team is frustrating sometimes, to say the least. I do enjoy a good bit of hyperbole, though. It adds some flavor, I think, to otherwise trite internet dialogue.
2008-07-30 18:52:49
36.   Bumsrap
AS we all know, the Dodger rotation is now Billingsley, Kuroda, Kershaw, Johnson, and Lowe. Penny might not make it back this year. Schmidt most likely will not make it back this year. Kuroda might be hurt. Park and Stultz are the backups.

Is a Maddix or Byrd acquisition for precaution or might the Dodgers trade Lowe?

2008-07-30 18:54:52
37.   regfairfield
I wouldn't be happy if we got a starting pitcher.
2008-07-30 18:56:43
38.   RIYank
The Commissioner's Office has been informed of a deal involving Pittsburgh, Boston, Florida.

Commish approval required, that means a bunch of cash. Presumably the Sox will pay Manny's salary.

2008-07-30 18:56:52
39.   Wilbert Robinson
36 Penny is minutes away from taking the mound in his first rehab start for the 66ers. He is scheduled to take the mound again for the 51s on the 4th and could take over Johnson's slot in the rotation on the 9th if all goes well. Maybe a strong rehab start tonight influences how aggressively the D's pursue a deal for an arm before the deadline?
2008-07-30 18:58:26
40.   Bumsrap
39 - I will thus root for Penny more than I usually care to do.
2008-07-30 19:00:09
41.   Bumsrap
Medium Seo Glass Vase for $38.00 Alex.
2008-07-30 19:00:21
42.   larry slimfast
39 If Penny tanks, will the Dodgers 86 the prospects for some 30 somethings and place it's future in file 13?
2008-07-30 19:00:38
43.   therickdaddy
39 -- I believe Penny is not going to do that start. It was announced he would be in Oklahoma on Saturday for just one rehab start.
2008-07-30 19:00:55
44.   larry slimfast
its not it's
2008-07-30 19:04:05
45.   KG16
some days, when I look at the Dodgers line up and pitching staff, I get bummed out that the Stadium isn't as pitcher friendly as it use to be.

kind of like the conversation Dave G had last night.

2008-07-30 19:04:55
46.   Wilbert Robinson
43. yeah oops Garate is pitching for the 66ers. Thats what I get for believing what I read in the Inland Empire 66ers news section.
2008-07-30 19:05:00
47.   D4P tells me to "brace (my)self, Manny talks are said to be 'serious.'"

I sure hope I'm sitting down if that trade goes through...

2008-07-30 19:07:26
48.   Alex41592
The Giants are going super veteran tonight.

Roberts, Castillo, Winn, Molina, Rowand, Bowker (lone exception), Aurilia, Vizquel

2008-07-30 19:07:36
49.   KG16
47 - how sweet would it be for both the the Red Sox and the Yankees to miss the playoffs? (no offense RIYank). Or would the post-season chat be nothing but "how could both the yankess and red sox miss the playoffs?" or some variation thereof?
2008-07-30 19:07:38
50.   Ken Noe
ESPN: Everything Sox, Patriots, New York.
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2008-07-30 19:07:50
51.   Ian Capilouto
38 So I am guessing Bay to Boston, Florida's prospects to Pittsburgh, Manny to Florida. If true, that would be an interesting trade.
2008-07-30 19:08:14
52.   Ken Noe
48 Like Frodo, Ned aches to slip on the ring....
2008-07-30 19:08:45
53.   Fallout
Maybe Pierre is not in the starting lineup tonight because he's involved in a trade for Manny? Ahh, maybe not...
2008-07-30 19:08:48
54.   Michael D
Will Carroll at BP is reporting the Manny deal is done pending getting all the approval done:

Marlins get Manny Ramirez, one prospect (BOS), and cash (likely Ramirez's remaining salary)
Pirates get Jeremy Hermida and three prospects (two FLO, one BOS)
Red Sox get Jason Bay and John Grabow

2008-07-30 19:09:16
55.   MonkeyBlue
Well at least the Dodgers don't have any more games against the Marlins.
2008-07-30 19:09:23
56.   Wilbert Robinson
47 According to rotoworld Will Carroll says:

bp link won't load though...

2008-07-30 19:09:24
57.   RIYank
49 No worries.

But who would be the wild card? Oakland? Deserving, I admit.

2008-07-30 19:10:23
58.   KG16
57 - the twins are just a game back, looking at the standings.
2008-07-30 19:12:15
59.   MonkeyBlue
Roberts will not have a good time against Bills... this time!
2008-07-30 19:12:45
60.   Alex41592
Rosenthal says Dodgers put Maddux deal on hold to work on other deals. Money is the hangup. Padres want us to pay the rest of the contract and we don't want to pay any money.
2008-07-30 19:13:01
61.   trainwreck
Twins or White Sox.
2008-07-30 19:13:38
62.   Andrew Shimmin
34- Way to step on my bit!
2008-07-30 19:16:01
63.   regfairfield
54 Obviously whoever "prospects" are makes all the difference but it sure seems like the Pirates got screwed again.
2008-07-30 19:16:20
64.   trainwreck
I'm the Billz
The big bad Billz
The strikeout monsteeerr.
2008-07-30 19:16:49
65.   thinkblue88
Wow, Bills blowin' 'em away on fastball fastball fastball.
2008-07-30 19:17:02
66.   MC Safety
33 The guy mentioned Jeff Kent not cutting it in the cleanup spot. That's not the mark of a person under the influence of bad journalism. I was probably just confusing hating the trading deadline and distracting ones self from the trading deadline, as the title of the last thread suggested. Considering how ridiculous his one post was, I sort of question what I'm even typing right now, I just thought the reaction to the initial topic he brought up was a tad harsh.
2008-07-30 19:17:06
67.   trainwreck
They apparently get Mike Stanton who gets a lot of acclaim.
2008-07-30 19:17:09
68.   Wilbert Robinson
63. According to the BP article the prospects have yet to be decided on
2008-07-30 19:17:14
69.   Alex41592
Leadoff HR Jody Gerut. 1-0 Padres Bot 1.
2008-07-30 19:18:01
70.   KG16
scoring the first inning: 4-3, K, K.

now, just 8 more like that, please.

2008-07-30 19:18:32
71.   Icaros

What do they want with a 50-year-old LOOGY?

2008-07-30 19:18:37
72.   regfairfield
67 I'm sure that's a different Mike Stanton, right?
2008-07-30 19:19:08
73.   trainwreck
Yes, this guy is a young outfielder in Single-A.
2008-07-30 19:19:24
74.   Andrew Shimmin
Hermida will hit 30 home runs this year.

Book it.

2008-07-30 19:20:06
75.   overkill94
67 How can a 40-something journeyman reliever get a lot of acclaim? ;)
2008-07-30 19:20:18
76.   RIYank
67 Someone from the Marlins' org denies that Stanton was involved.

Also, Peter Gammons says that the deal is not close to done, and is so complicated that it will likely continue through Thursday.

2008-07-30 19:20:24
77.   trainwreck
Now that is how you lead-off!
2008-07-30 19:20:25
78.   thinkblue88
Bison Patience.
2008-07-30 19:20:33
79.   Alex41592
Leadoff walk for Kemp. Excellent.
2008-07-30 19:20:56
80.   Michael D
Bison knows how to lead off. Just pointing that out to various people in the organization who seem to not know this.
2008-07-30 19:21:13
81.   KG16
one would posit that throwing many fast balls to Matt Kemp is not an ideal way to get him out.
2008-07-30 19:21:33
82.   Dexter Fishmore
Matt Kemp is freaking good at baseball.
2008-07-30 19:23:20
83.   Alex41592
2-0 Padres on a sac fly.
2008-07-30 19:24:14
84.   Ken Noe
This Kemp kid could hit leadoff if JP ended up, say, in Chicago.
2008-07-30 19:24:23
85.   larry slimfast
interesting that Rotoworld says Carroll is, "not normally one of our preferred sources."
2008-07-30 19:25:27
86.   overkill94
Maybe we should have someone else start at 3B and then have Blake come in after said player has completed his first at-bat. Or does Blake have to always strike out in his first at-bat to get warmed up for following at-bats? The world may never know!
2008-07-30 19:25:42
87.   Eric Stephen
Take this with a grain of salt, but on my ride home I heard a replay of a Bob Nightengale interview from this afternoon in which he said the Dodgers had a LaRoche for Huston Street deal done a couple weeks ago but backed out at the last minute due to concerns over Street's health.
2008-07-30 19:26:17
88.   Alex41592
He may of struck out but he made him work.
2008-07-30 19:26:23
89.   KG16
how many 20-20 guys have the Dodgers had?
2008-07-30 19:27:31
90.   KG16
i'm on gameday, was Russ's 2-0 swing a normal swing or one of those ones he does where he nearly falls down trying to hit the ball to Fresno?
2008-07-30 19:27:57
91.   trainwreck
Woo hoo!
2008-07-30 19:28:13
92.   Icaros
Nice, Muscle.
2008-07-30 19:28:25
93.   overkill94
89 Hopefully most of them. I'm guessing Gagne and Duaner weren't, but most other players would probably wear contacts.
2008-07-30 19:28:37
94.   Alex41592
And the leadoff walk and stolen base from Kemp is cashed in by Martin. Baseball can be so beautiful.
2008-07-30 19:29:16
95.   Eric Stephen
7 guys, 11 seasons. The last being Green in 2001.

2008-07-30 19:29:30
96.   overkill94
We need to stop trying to run on this guy
2008-07-30 19:29:36
97.   Alex41592
2-1 Padres Top 2.
2008-07-30 19:29:42
98.   Jon Weisman
66 - "The guy mentioned Jeff Kent not cutting it in the cleanup spot. That's not the mark of a person under the influence of bad journalism."

I have no idea how I'm supposed to respond to this. Any comments he made about Kent were irrelevant to what I wrote.

The2pin was rather insistently, I felt, asking for information about trades, in a way I felt clearly meant a desire for the latest rumor.

2008-07-30 19:29:48
99.   Icaros
Shut up, Krukow. You loser.
2008-07-30 19:30:11
100.   Ken Noe
TO: Joe Torre
FROM: Ken Noe
Re: Bison
Let him leadoff everyday Joe. Are you watching?
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2008-07-30 19:30:41
101.   overkill94
Gotta give him a hit on that one. Not because Kent's on my fantasy team or anything...
2008-07-30 19:31:59
102.   Gen3Blue
Nice throw indeed.

I was going to say that one of the most persistant images for me this year is Kemp actually running out from under his helmut on the bases--he is that fast.

2008-07-30 19:32:02
103.   KG16
95 - two names I would not expect on that list: Kirk Gibson, Pedro Guerrero.
2008-07-30 19:32:19
104.   overkill94
98 Basically, he was expecting what you get at a lot of other blogs where people are throwing trade ideas around left and right while living and dying by the latest Rosenthal-created rumor. Luckily, you have taught us better.
2008-07-30 19:33:52
105.   Icaros

Really? Gibson? He was very fast. Played wide receiver for Michigan State.

2008-07-30 19:33:58
106.   Wilbert Robinson
103 - Yeah I always forget that Gibson stole a lot of bases and am always suprised when reminded.
2008-07-30 19:34:33
107.   Eric Stephen
That was funny, BTW.
2008-07-30 19:35:52
108.   Eric Stephen
Nice catch Andruw.
2008-07-30 19:36:16
109.   the2pin
98 Can we end this? This is beginning to sound childish, don't you think?

Matt Kemp continues to impress. Best player on the team, IMO.

2008-07-30 19:36:26
110.   Icaros
And that is why I would still rather have Andruw start over Pierre.
2008-07-30 19:36:38
111.   overkill94
107 Thanks for the sympathy props. I'm not normally quick enough to produce a Timmermann-like snarky-yet-technically-correct response to someone's honest question.
2008-07-30 19:37:10
112.   KG16
105 - I just remember him hobbled, is all.
2008-07-30 19:37:26
113.   Bob Hendley
What a break, Dru!
2008-07-30 19:38:29
114.   Andrew Shimmin
Weird night.

I blame Gary Bennett.

2008-07-30 19:39:09
115.   trainwreck
Damn, it's fun to watch Billingsley pitch.
2008-07-30 19:39:31
116.   Eric Stephen
Brett Favre's agent is name Bus. He looks more like a Cooter.
2008-07-30 19:39:46
117.   overkill94
Three doubles and two homers for Kelly Shoppach of the Indians tonight. I doubt you see that very often...

By the way, I just picked that guy up in my fantasy league two days ago. Booyah!

2008-07-30 19:39:50
118.   Icaros

I understand. I think he actually hurt his knee in the '88 postseason while stealing a base. Anyone remember for sure?

2008-07-30 19:40:07
119.   whodat807
110 Really? Pierre might not have the best glove and he may have a noodle arm, but by virtue of being merely offensively mediocre, he's far and away a better bat to have in the lineup than Jones and his quest to have the worst offensive season ever.
2008-07-30 19:40:44
120.   Andrew Shimmin
If the magic titanium bracelet makers were smart, they'd bring ChiChi Rodriguez in to pitch them.
2008-07-30 19:41:07
121.   larry slimfast
The Dodgers don't deserve Gary Bennett.
2008-07-30 19:41:11
122.   trainwreck
No glasses for Amy tonight.
2008-07-30 19:41:21
123.   Eric Stephen
It was Game 5 in the 9th inning, stealing 2B. He played the next two games, but in extreme pain.
2008-07-30 19:41:30
124.   Wilbert Robinson
Article up on about not being surprised if a trade were made (?). Anyway from the article:

Torre said the club had planned to promote Chin-lung Hu from Triple-A Las Vegas on Tuesday, but Garciaparra wanted a few days to see if he could heal.

2008-07-30 19:42:13
125.   MonkeyBlue
Well what you know? Andruw still blows!
2008-07-30 19:42:18
126.   Andrew Shimmin
121- I disagree. I think they deserve every bit of him. But I also think that justice is overrated.
2008-07-30 19:42:44
127.   TheBigGrabowski
Billz is looking good tonight.
2008-07-30 19:43:16
128.   Eric Stephen
Since 1956, only Garvey & Stargell have done it.

2008-07-30 19:44:41
129.   Alex41592

"When you have young players, even if with the player you can get, you may not want to give up a young player who isn't as good as he's going to be," said Torre. "Those are the ground rules. Matt Kemp is good now and in a couple years he'll be special. Kemp may be better than the guy you're going to get, and that guy probably is making a ton of money. That's just good business sense there."

2008-07-30 19:45:56
130.   Icaros

I just really hate Pierre as a player. He offers literally nothing, I feel. So I take Jones's defensive superiority and the fantasy that one day he might return to half of what he once was, which would be better than twice what Pierre currently is, and run with it.

2008-07-30 19:47:04
131.   Eric Stephen
Valenzuela was still better in 1986, Krukow!
2008-07-30 19:47:07
132.   D4P
I almost get the impression that Torre's talking to Ned...
2008-07-30 19:47:32
133.   larry slimfast
Gary Bennett has seen how the Dodgers have treated players in the past when the fans were turning against them. He deserves mental peace.
2008-07-30 19:48:20
134.   Gen3Blue
Well these Giant announcers are somewhat annoying, but at least they woke up for "the pretty girl". I didn't think our "black hole" was that bad tonight with Kemp leading off, but after making Sanchez throw quite a few pitches in the first inning, Jones-Berroa let him off real easy.
2008-07-30 19:48:37
135.   Alex41592
Still 2-1 Padres Bot 3.
2008-07-30 19:51:12
136.   ToyCannon
Nice, glad you stuck around.

Andrew - you really don't think Hermida and Stanton was a good return for Bay. I think it was awesome. It would be like trading Kemp and Santana for him back when we had Santana.

2008-07-30 19:51:25
137.   sanchez101
130. I agree, I have to turn the channel every time he comes up just because it makes me made - id like to think he isn't really on the team. Luckily he takes so few pitches I don't miss much.
2008-07-30 19:51:38
138.   MonkeyBlue
Sanchez gave Bills a hard time.
2008-07-30 19:52:07
139.   D4P
This Giants lineup is pitiful.
2008-07-30 19:53:56
140.   ToyCannon
Crazy game in Cleveland.
2008-07-30 19:56:19
141.   Wilbert Robinson passive-aggressively rips Will Carroll again:

It's been 40 minutes now and no one has joined Will Carroll in saying that the deal is done or even all that close to being done. Skepticism is still warranted.

2008-07-30 19:57:06
142.   thinkblue88
It is so awesome watching a star being born.
2008-07-30 19:57:12
143.   Alex41592
Oh just another walk for Kemp.
2008-07-30 19:57:25
144.   Icaros
This is a breakout showing of patience for the young Bison!
2008-07-30 19:57:35
145.   MC Safety
Matt Kemp is going to be a beast. Soon.
2008-07-30 19:57:42
146.   Eric Stephen
The Bison is a walking machine.
2008-07-30 19:57:49
147.   Tripon
Kemp's hit streak might end tonight, and it'll be because he he's doing some incredible walking. I hope JP's watching and realizing that this is this is what Torre wants.
2008-07-30 19:57:52
148.   claytonkershaw
did i miss something? did bay get traded? hey did anyone see that chad tracy was offered for dunn...that would be scary for the dbacks to get him...ya kemp draws another walk!
2008-07-30 19:58:03
149.   Landonkk
Wow! The Bison has been SOLID ever since his game tying double a while back.
2008-07-30 19:58:17
150.   Eric Stephen
He'll be on second within a few pitches.
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2008-07-30 19:58:35
151.   The Dude Abides
Imagine how good a leadoff hitter Kemp could be if he knew how to lead off.
2008-07-30 19:59:05
152.   Alex41592
Arthur Rhodes is having a meltdown in Arlington.
2008-07-30 19:59:43
153.   whodat807
130 I guess I can understand, but wishing for Jones to return to form (or at least just resemble a major league ball player) is like waiting for a very overweight Godot. I'm rather ambivalent when it comes to Pierre, and I wish we had someone better to slot in at his spot, but for the time being, Pierre is simply a better player than Jones.
2008-07-30 20:00:02
154.   claytonkershaw
wow the top of the order is really working sanchez
2008-07-30 20:00:32
155.   Alex41592
Blake follows with an impressive at bat as well.
2008-07-30 20:00:43
156.   Tripon
Casey Blake is also a walk machine. I'm liking the Blake trade even more. Can we just call him Casey Blake Dewitt from now on?
2008-07-30 20:00:55
157.   Icaros

He did do the whole "first guy on the team to bat" part correctly.

2008-07-30 20:01:17
158.   claytonkershaw
blake rotates between good games and bad games
2008-07-30 20:01:18
159.   larry slimfast
kemp distracted blake last at bat when he stole so son and blake struck out. he waited a while and blake walked this time. i tell ya what... that kemp is learning more about leading off every day.
2008-07-30 20:01:51
160.   sanchez101
Does it seem like Kemp has a different approach at the plate since moving towards the top of the lineup, particularly at leadoff? If so, they should send Pierre to Beijing with all the other sprinters who cant play baseball.
2008-07-30 20:02:55
161.   claytonkershaw
casey "the beard" blake
2008-07-30 20:03:22
162.   Icaros

I said it was fantasy. But Pierre doesn't even offer fantasy. Just groundouts and 6-hopper throws back to the infield.

2008-07-30 20:03:48
163.   regfairfield
156 That's damning with faint praise if I've ever heard it.
2008-07-30 20:04:04
164.   Alex41592
2008-07-30 20:04:20
165.   thinkblue88
2008-07-30 20:04:54
166.   unlazy4sports
C'mon cleanup hitter, clear the bases!
2008-07-30 20:05:12
167.   max power
Bison's looking pretty darn ballplayery.
2008-07-30 20:05:22
168.   whodat807
Kemp's patience parlayed into two runs. Nice game by him already.
2008-07-30 20:05:25
169.   TheBigGrabowski
2008-07-30 20:05:29
170.   Alex41592
166 - Close!
2008-07-30 20:05:33
171.   MonkeyBlue
Kent does good!
2008-07-30 20:05:36
172.   MrCourt123
He's a doubles machine
2008-07-30 20:05:38
173.   unlazy4sports
166 The vet's showing how to listen to instructions!
2008-07-30 20:05:39
174.   Bob Hendley
Golden God, whop, whop, whop, Gold
2008-07-30 20:05:50
175.   sanchez101
Martin seemed pissed that he didn't score there
2008-07-30 20:06:51
176.   TheBigGrabowski
175 Gamers are always pissed when they don't score.
2008-07-30 20:06:53
177.   Alex41592
3-1 Padres Bot 4 and they're hungry for more.
2008-07-30 20:07:00
178.   The Dude Abides
I think Kent connected with that pitch on the label. Good placement with that drive up the alley.
2008-07-30 20:07:07
179.   MonkeyBlue
175. Surpise Bowa didn't let him go!
2008-07-30 20:07:41
180.   MrCourt123
Martin seems pissed after every at bat that results in a single or less.
2008-07-30 20:07:42
181.   trainwreck
That was stupid.
2008-07-30 20:07:57
182.   Alex41592
Spicoli hits into a GIDP. 3-1 S.D Top 5.
2008-07-30 20:07:57
183.   whodat807
Sanchez is not long for this game.
2008-07-30 20:08:01
184.   Icaros
That was really really really bad baserunning by Jeff Kent.
2008-07-30 20:08:07
185.   thinkblue88
Kent with the third out at third base. Isn't that some sort of sin?
2008-07-30 20:08:12
186.   MonkeyBlue
What the heck Kent? Anyways, I think this should be enough for Chad.
2008-07-30 20:08:18
187.   Tripon
Odd that Kent got caught on the basepaths, but I guess he was trying to make sure Martin scored.
2008-07-30 20:08:29
188.   Jon Weisman
I say this without any intention of making a larger point. Kent tagging and trying to go to third on that sacrifice fly, which was the second out of the inning, was a dumb play.
2008-07-30 20:08:48
189.   thinkblue88
Ha, and poor Loney, another 2 out at bat
2008-07-30 20:08:55
190.   The Dude Abides
But I see he's still the same baserunner he's always been. There was no way Roberts was going to throw out Russ at the plate, so why did Kent take off? I'll still take the run, though.
2008-07-30 20:08:58
191.   unlazy4sports
I hope Vinny talks about baserunning tonite like he talked about patience at the plate last night.
2008-07-30 20:09:51
192.   Alex41592
188 - I'm not as gracious. Stupid! And for a forty year old veteran. Absolutely ridiculous.
2008-07-30 20:10:12
193.   Jon Weisman
187 - Does Kent think that Martin needs help scoring on Dave Roberts' arm?
2008-07-30 20:10:52
194.   Tripon
160 One of the reasons why Torre moved Kemp to the leadoff spot when JP got hurt was to remind Kemp about plate discipline. At least that's the reason he gave to Kemp(and the L.A. Times) at the time.
2008-07-30 20:10:55
195.   MonkeyBlue
Angel and his glove work... so good!
2008-07-30 20:11:19
196.   Fallout
188 Jon Weisman
True---especially with Roberts weak arm. It wasn't going to fly all the way to the plate.
2008-07-30 20:11:25
197.   Eric Stephen
Kemp's hit streak might end tonight, and it'll be because he he's doing some incredible walking

Kemp might be OK. From the MLB official rules, Rule 10.23(a):

"A consecutive hitting streak shall not be terminated if a batter's plate appearance results in a base on balls, hit batsman, defensive interference or obstruction or a sacrifice bunt. A sacrifice fly shall terminate the streak"

2008-07-30 20:11:45
198.   Alice S
If it makes anyone feel better, the Black Hole was on deck so it's not like we would have gotten any more runs from the inning anyway.
2008-07-30 20:12:11
199.   The Dude Abides
Have to agree with Vin...Berroa is doing the job defensively. I think most here believe there's no way we need to trade for another SS. Nomar, Berroa, and Hu can hold the fort until Raffy gets back in September [fingers crossed].
2008-07-30 20:12:15
200.   Tripon
193 I have no idea. I just saw Kent waving his arm around like he motioning to make sure Martin scored as he got tagged at 3rd base.
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2008-07-30 20:12:43
201.   Alex41592
3-2 Padres.
2008-07-30 20:13:15
202.   MC Safety
What did Will Carroll say about Bills earlier this season?
2008-07-30 20:13:15
203.   larry slimfast
lets blame it on bowa! kent's too much of a grump to make fun of.
2008-07-30 20:14:01
204.   whodat807
Bills looks amazing so far.
2008-07-30 20:14:20
205.   TheBigGrabowski
2008-07-30 20:15:12
206.   The Dude Abides
Has any writer ever made the observation that Billingsley reminds them of Tom Seaver? That guy is the first one who comes to mind for me, with that leg drive.
2008-07-30 20:15:14
207.   MrCourt123
Billingsley is certainly stepping into that "ace" role so many people said he was capable of assuming.
2008-07-30 20:15:27
208.   Paul Scott
4 innings, 6 K's. It is an interesting game to be sure.
2008-07-30 20:15:45
209.   Eric Stephen
He has said for a couple of years that Chad is a huge injury risk, a ticking time bomb.
2008-07-30 20:16:08
210.   Alex41592
I want to use Jon's word from the Kuroda game.

But, I won't. Splendiferous will suffice.

2008-07-30 20:16:18
211.   LeeLacy
161 casey "the beard" blake

Or for those of us who are fans of "Scrubs," we should refer to Blake as Beardfacé.

2008-07-30 20:16:29
212.   regfairfield
199 I think you'll be hard pressed to find people here who think Berroa is useful defensively.
2008-07-30 20:17:16
213.   CanuckDodger
206 -- Logan White, the day he drafted Chad, in 2003: "He reminds me of Tom Seaver."
2008-07-30 20:17:36
214.   Tripon
Injury risk? Chad's the perfect pitcher of health! ...Did Sanchez just walk Andruw Jones?
2008-07-30 20:17:40
215.   TheBigGrabowski
Jones walks. STOP THE MADNESS.
2008-07-30 20:17:51
216.   MonkeyBlue
Walked Jones... Sanchez is done
2008-07-30 20:17:51
217.   Jon Weisman
212 - All I can say is he's looked good to me, or better than I expected anyway.
2008-07-30 20:17:52
218.   whodat807
212 That said, he's been surprisingly unawful since signing with us, no?
2008-07-30 20:18:36
219.   Eric Stephen
You are the perfectly principled person to post that!
2008-07-30 20:19:00
220.   MrCourt123
Is Ethier batting 7th because Torre was getting tired of 3 (almost) automatic outs at the bottom of the order?
2008-07-30 20:19:08
221.   Tripon
Hah, The Packers offered $20 million to Favre just to stay home and retired. Sheesh, they really don't want him around.
2008-07-30 20:19:11
222.   larry slimfast
tie game in SD
2008-07-30 20:20:25
223.   regfairfield
218 I've thought he has a range of about an inch. I guess I'm in the minority.
2008-07-30 20:20:26
224.   Alex41592
3-3 Tie in S.D.
2008-07-30 20:20:33
225.   MonkeyBlue
Ethier! You are not helping yourself with that DP!
2008-07-30 20:20:48
226.   larry slimfast
214 please find some wood and do what you do with it.
2008-07-30 20:20:54
227.   MC Safety
Stupid Padres.
2008-07-30 20:20:55
228.   Gen3Blue
Wow, did someone walk Jones? Amazing.
My computer is getting so slow I need a new one.
2008-07-30 20:22:02
229.   Eric Stephen
For what it's worth, small sample size an all, Berroa has a +1 plus/minus rating through 246 innings.
2008-07-30 20:22:52
230.   Gen3Blue
Ahhnn-helll Berroa with a hit.
We will lead off with a batter! But it may happen before I get the comment in.
2008-07-30 20:24:45
231.   tethier
If the Dodgers win tonight will this be the first time they're over .500 since May?
2008-07-30 20:24:57
232.   Eric Stephen
Wow, the Giants' sideline reporter has a heck of a problem reading her lines.
2008-07-30 20:25:02
233.   MonkeyBlue
Bills only 3 ball count was to a Pitcher!
2008-07-30 20:25:21
234.   Tripon
Well, that's that.
2008-07-30 20:25:23
235.   MrCourt123
Bases loaded, 2 out, bottom of the 10th in Cleveland
2008-07-30 20:25:41
236.   Jon Weisman
Walks for Jones haven't been the issue this year. His OBP is 100 points higher than his batting average.
2008-07-30 20:26:55
237.   Alex41592
Bases loaded, 1 out for Tracy and the D'Backs.
2008-07-30 20:27:00
238.   MonkeyBlue
Sweet DP! a true rally killer.
2008-07-30 20:27:14
239.   larry slimfast
5-3 snakies
2008-07-30 20:27:17
240.   Eric Stephen
Yep. The club was 26-25 after losing at Wrigley Field on May 27.

The following night I guaranteed a Dodger victory, and the resulting loss is why I now own a Juan Pierre t-shirt.

2008-07-30 20:27:31
241.   Alex41592
5-3 D'Backs.
2008-07-30 20:30:52
242.   tethier
240 Thanks. Been a long time. I think they've been at .500 several times lately only to fall back each time, right?
2008-07-30 20:31:10
243.   Icaros

I'm telling you, her public speaking skills are a step below amateur.

2008-07-30 20:32:21
244.   MrCourt123
17 straight!
2008-07-30 20:32:23
245.   Michael D
Breaking News:

Matt Kemp is good at baseball.

2008-07-30 20:32:34
246.   Landonkk
2008-07-30 20:32:36
247.   Alex41592
17 games. 3 times at the plate. 3 times on.
2008-07-30 20:32:40
248.   ToyCannon
Jones walks all the time. If you are going to make fun of him, lets keep it to the things he doesn't do well.
2008-07-30 20:32:44
249.   trainwreck
She needs those glasses, though I think she just wears them to look smart.
2008-07-30 20:32:46
250.   MonkeyBlue
Bison streak conitnues!
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2008-07-30 20:33:03
251.   Eric Stephen
They were 27-27, but didn't get back to .500 until they hit 52-52, and are now 53-53.

Nice job, Bison.

2008-07-30 20:33:30
252.   Gen3Blue
What does it mean that Kemp seems to do much better than our usual lead-offhitter.
2008-07-30 20:33:57
253.   whodat807
And the beat goes on! Exceptional game so far for Kemp.
2008-07-30 20:34:17
254.   Tripon
This team might be better with Jones in center and JP sitting. Certainly, its a better defensive outfield, Jones may be sucking it at the plate, but he's still okay on defense.

...Oh wow, I thought Kemp was out by a mile on that steal, but Castillo couldn't hold on it.

2008-07-30 20:34:18
255.   MonkeyBlue
Kemp is a stealing machine! Should have been thrown out though.
2008-07-30 20:34:20
256.   Eric Stephen
Now your comment in 122 make a lot more sense to me! :)
2008-07-30 20:35:00
257.   Tripon
Can we get a photo of this Amy? I'm curious as heck of what she looks like.
2008-07-30 20:35:09
258.   MrCourt123
Yeah, Kemp should have been cooked. I'll take it though. Let's hope the power of the beard comes through.
2008-07-30 20:35:24
259.   Sam DC
wishing for Jones to return to form . . . is like waiting for a very overweight Godot


Nationals fans have a version of this involving Dmitri Young.

2008-07-30 20:36:59
260.   whodat807
Blake's looking pretty good so far.
2008-07-30 20:37:17
261.   Fallout
Blake going to right with a runner on 2nd and no outs. Good job.
2008-07-30 20:37:18
262.   sporky
This is the PERFECT demonstration of what a leadoff man should be. Pierre is but a gnat; Kemp is, well, you know.
2008-07-30 20:37:18
263.   MonkeyBlue
What the heck Martin? that was a easy RBI.
2008-07-30 20:37:22
264.   Landonkk
It is so fun to watch a player developing into a stud.. I remember watching him in A ball during my only visit to Vero Beach. I told my ex-girlfriend that he was going to be a star one day... I should have kept her around just to verify that fact.

I also saw Loney, Billz, and Russ in Jacksonville. It was a good trip.

2008-07-30 20:37:39
265.   Icaros

I'd gladly trade broadcasts with you, if that were possible.

2008-07-30 20:37:43
266.   fanerman
Buster Olney says the Dodgers and Padres are working on and probably will complete a deal to trade Maddux. He didn't say who the Dodgers would give up.
2008-07-30 20:38:25
267.   Eric Stephen
Matt Kemp in July:

.330/.410/.553, 5 HR, 10/13 SB, 19 R, 14 RBI in (almost) 25 games.

2008-07-30 20:38:39
268.   Tripon
Ouch, Kemp.
2008-07-30 20:38:42
269.   Jon Weisman
Shouldn't Aurillia have gone for the DP there? I think it was a bad play, Vin. With Kent at the plate? I think Kemp was right to run for home.
2008-07-30 20:38:53
270.   whodat807
266 I loved Maddux as a Dodger, but is he really necessary on this team?
2008-07-30 20:39:51
271.   Alex41592
269 - Looked to be an easy double play. I don't know what Aurilia was thinking.
2008-07-30 20:40:54
272.   Tripon
270 If only to help teach the younger pitchers on the staff, and give Penny a $3.5 million security blanket. Penny loves Maddux.
2008-07-30 20:41:49
273.   whodat807
272 True. Haha, I don't need much convincing to be happy to have Maddux back.
2008-07-30 20:42:44
274.   overkill94
269 That's what I was thinking - slow runner going to second, slow runner going to first, hard-hit ball, tag play at the plate.
2008-07-30 20:43:28
275.   Tripon
Bad pitch for Bills.
2008-07-30 20:43:38
276.   larry slimfast
269 the traditional correct play is for kemp to freeze or get into a rundown in that situation... but it's a tough one. hard to blame anyone.

i would have just tackled bowa.

2008-07-30 20:44:09
277.   The Dude Abides
There's speculation that if the Dodgers re-acquire Maddux, they might go to a six-man rotation.
2008-07-30 20:44:12
278.   sporky
Hopefully Omar picks up where he left off yesterday.
2008-07-30 20:44:23
279.   Jon Weisman
272 - The security blanket is one thing, although I think the stats show that Maddux is not pitching all that well. Moreover, there are too many ex-pitching greats around that you can hire as advisors to spend millions on one.
2008-07-30 20:46:04
280.   DaDoughboy
anybody have tickets to Fridays game that you are trying to get rid of?
2008-07-30 20:46:43
281.   KG16
270 - only if Penny isn't coming back, or Lowe is going somewhere. Although giving Kershaw a few weeks under the tutelage of the Professor might be worth it, in and of itself.

I remember hearing something about Penny (and Billingsly) saying that having Maddux on the staff improved them tremendously.

Just don't give up anything more than a C prospect to a division rival.

2008-07-30 20:47:52
282.   Sam DC
Sorry, I'm just catching up. The Giants pitcher is named Osiris?

If he gets in trouble will we see Horus, or maybe Ra if their backs are really against the wall?

2008-07-30 20:47:56
283.   larry slimfast
i'd take maddux for nothing if we could get something acceptable at short for Stults.
2008-07-30 20:49:06
284.   Icaros
Dave Roberts is really starting to look old in the face.
2008-07-30 20:49:27
285.   Alex41592
Tony Jackson wrote a story about Maddux for tomorrow's paper and it is on his blog.
2008-07-30 20:52:41
286.   KG16
wow, old school stir ups
2008-07-30 20:52:47
287.   DaDoughboy
egad, I wore those in little league 20 years ago..
2008-07-30 20:53:01
288.   thinkblue88
thats friggin awesome!
2008-07-30 20:54:30
289.   DaDoughboy
Andruw, really, you don't have to pull every ball...honest..
2008-07-30 20:55:52
290.   MonkeyBlue
Andruw blows.
2008-07-30 20:56:48
291.   trainwreck
When you can't catch up to low 80's stuff, your career is probably over.
2008-07-30 20:57:23
292.   Eric Stephen
Well, you don't see that too often.
2008-07-30 20:57:56
293.   KG16
287 - yeah, me too. i kind of wish more teams wore those.
2008-07-30 20:59:04
294.   Icaros

We just saw that with LaRoche a few weeks ago, didn't we, on the insane bunt with the bases loaded and two outs?

2008-07-30 20:59:26
295.   kngoworld
It is obvious that batting after Jones and watching his at bats from the on deck circle is not a good learning experience for Ethier.
2008-07-30 21:00:18
296.   thinkblue88
2008-07-30 21:02:03
297.   Alex41592
Billingsley looking Madduxesque with that grab.
2008-07-30 21:04:59
298.   Eric Stephen
I believe the approved term is "Madduxian". :)
2008-07-30 21:07:56
299.   Alex41592
We've got quite the series on our hands the next four days.
2008-07-30 21:08:36
300.   sporky
Maddux' FIP is 4.00
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2008-07-30 21:09:47
301.   Marty
I don't think we've heard from Landonk in a long time. Welcome back.
2008-07-30 21:10:39
302.   Eric Stephen
I don't believe FIP is park adjusted (is it???), so a 4.00 FIP in Petco is not very good.
2008-07-30 21:11:16
303.   sporky
Matt's seen a lot of 3-2 counts.
2008-07-30 21:11:55
304.   trainwreck
Casey Blake does use a good batting song.
2008-07-30 21:12:07
305.   sporky
32 No park adjustment.
2008-07-30 21:12:50
306.   MonkeyBlue
This Blake guy can sure hit.
2008-07-30 21:16:19
307.   Marty
Gameday says this pitcher throws nothing but changeups. Is he a submariner or something?
2008-07-30 21:16:25
308.   sporky
Andy went 3 for 4. Hu had a Pierrian night (1 for 5), and from what I can gather, DeWitt played wasn't horrible at 2B.
2008-07-30 21:17:26
309.   Eric Stephen
Duane Kuiper called him a cross between Brian Fuentes and Mike Myers.
2008-07-30 21:17:31
310.   lukemccain
306 He is hitting .412 since he joined the Dodgers. Pretty good upgrade from what we had at 3B before.
2008-07-30 21:18:27
311.   sporky
308 86 the 'played'
2008-07-30 21:19:02
312.   larry slimfast
from via rotoworld "The Red Sox want Jason Bay, but they could try to mix in a different third team. Heyman adds that the Dodgers were willing to part with Matt Kemp for Ramirez, but that those talks are on the sidelines now"
2008-07-30 21:20:43
313.   Marty
Frank DeFord is going to look like the Cryptkeeper in a couple years.
2008-07-30 21:20:55
314.   Alex41592
312 - HA!
2008-07-30 21:21:33
315.   sporky
312 Maybe Joe and Logan both beat Ned with copies of 'Molecular Biology of the Cell.'
2008-07-30 21:22:19
316.   natepurcell


2008-07-30 21:23:11
317.   sporky
Tim Hudson will probably undergo TJ surgery.
2008-07-30 21:23:14
318.   Alex41592
D'Backs add 2 more runs and will stroll into Dodger Stadium up 1 game.
2008-07-30 21:23:23
319.   trainwreck
That would be the ultimate test of people's abilities to follow Rule 1.
2008-07-30 21:25:12
320.   Icaros
Wow, Overkill's fantasy team is kicking a tonight.
2008-07-30 21:25:23
321.   Jon Weisman
Bottom of the 12th, 12-12 tie, Cleveland loads the bases with none out.

They're now in the top of the 13th.

2008-07-30 21:26:32
322.   Icaros

Indeed. That would be my last day on DT. Jon would most assuredly ban my IP.

2008-07-30 21:26:42
323.   larry slimfast
315 I don't think McCourt would approve that with the price of textbooks these days.
2008-07-30 21:26:43
324.   DaDoughboy

Bull fertilizer.

2008-07-30 21:27:39
325.   Jon Weisman
Chad 100 pitches through eight innings.
2008-07-30 21:27:49
326.   natepurcell
His Royal Thighness deserves a feast fit for a King tonight!
2008-07-30 21:27:52
327.   Icaros

Not even if it's a used older edition?

2008-07-30 21:28:01
328.   sporky
322 Indeed again. I don't think I would have an internet connection in jail.
2008-07-30 21:29:05
329.   Alex41592
I'd send Chad back out there. I want everybody fresh for Arizona.
2008-07-30 21:29:19
330.   silverwidow
Thighness is every bit as good as Kazmir, Hamels, etc.
2008-07-30 21:30:06
331.   Jon Weisman
Chad will get about 15 pitches to mess around with in the ninth, I figure.
2008-07-30 21:30:44
332.   sporky
Ethier isn't having the best night.
2008-07-30 21:30:55
333.   Alex41592
Chad going for the CG SHO!
2008-07-30 21:31:28
334.   sporky
Detroit scores!
2008-07-30 21:31:45
335.   schoffle
The Dodger team ERA for July is 3.63 (actually it's better than that now) and for June it was 3.35, why does anyone think we should trade for pitching? I mean if it aint broke .... If Ned really needs to do something feel free to get a PH.
2008-07-30 21:32:21
336.   larry slimfast
327 Ned might like the used older edition.
2008-07-30 21:32:28
337.   kngoworld
"its just the Giants"
2008-07-30 21:33:28
338.   Penguin
wonder if Farnsworth gets to Cleveland in time for the save
2008-07-30 21:35:02
339.   lukemccain
I took the Metrolink to Union Station, then the Redline (actually the Purple line) to the 7th St/Metro station and then walked a couple of blocks to the Los Angeles Central Library today. I have been wanting to see it for a while but what spurred me into going was the Dodgers photograph collection.

There are two rooms full of original prints from the Herald-Examiner, Security Pacific and a couple of other collections from 1958 to 1988. There are a few older photos, like Lefty Philips signing an 18 year old Don Drysdale to his first contract in front of Don's parents. A 1949 photo of the shanty town in Chavez Ravine was also very interesting.

If you remember the Dodgers "back in the day", as Kevin Kennedy likes to say, do yourself a favor and come see these great images.

The exhibit opened on July 12th at the Los Angeles Central Library. It is located in the first floor galleries.
5th & Flower, Downtown LA
Runs through November 9th

2008-07-30 21:35:06
340.   Eric Stephen
Chad's highest game score was an 80 last July against SD, a scoreless 7 IP with 9 Ks.

He's sitting on 84 right now (entering the 9th).

2008-07-30 21:35:51
341.   MonkeyBlue
Ozuna! I bet you Kent would have made that play!
2008-07-30 21:37:28
342.   Alex41592
Chad's next start will be on 5 days rest in St. Louis so I think 120 pitches should be ok.
2008-07-30 21:37:49
343.   Jon Weisman
On that 3-1 pitch to Roberts, Billingsley got a veteran's strike call, in my opinion.
2008-07-30 21:38:45
344.   MonkeyBlue
343. Or the Ump want to end the game call!
2008-07-30 21:39:21
345.   Jon Weisman
Nuts. I thought he'd do it on the 15th pitch!
2008-07-30 21:39:57
346.   Alex41592
Shutout still in tact. Close though.
2008-07-30 21:40:03
347.   Jon Weisman
Man, I thought that was on or beyond the wall.
2008-07-30 21:40:18
348.   larry slimfast
go get him
2008-07-30 21:40:57
349.   sporky
2008-07-30 21:41:00
350.   Jon Weisman
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2008-07-30 21:41:07
351.   MonkeyBlue
2008-07-30 21:41:08
352.   Icaros
2008-07-30 21:41:09
353.   thinkblue88


2008-07-30 21:41:11
354.   KG16
now that's how you end a game.
2008-07-30 21:41:20
355.   Eric Stephen
Highest Dodger Game Scores 2008
Kuroda - 91 vs. Atl (1-hit SHO)
Kuroda - 90 vs. Chi (4-hit SHO, 11 K)
Billingsley - 85 vs. SF (5-hit SHO, 8 K)
Lowe - 83 Saturday (8 IP, 0 R)
Stults - 81 vs. CWS (4-hit SHO)

Happy belated birthday Chad!

ERA as a 24-year old: 0.00

2008-07-30 21:41:22
356.   MrCourt123
A thing of beauty! CG shutout! Wouldn't have happened with JP out there.
2008-07-30 21:41:34
357.   larry slimfast
chad owes ethier dinner and a round of drinks.
2008-07-30 21:41:36
358.   Alex41592
YES! YES! YES! CG SHUTOUT! ETHIER TO MARTIN! What a block of home plate by Martin!
2008-07-30 21:42:17
359.   CodyS
Holy Cow! Billingsley looked just about done there at the end. Goes in the book as a shutout.
2008-07-30 21:42:17
360.   whodat807
What a way to close out a shut out!
2008-07-30 21:43:11
361.   imperabo
Awesome. How do you get thrown out at home down 4-0 in the ninth?
2008-07-30 21:43:14
362.   Wilbert Robinson
Wow that was so awesome that it caused me to spill a jar of salsa all over myself
2008-07-30 21:43:46
363.   fanerman
His Thigness sits on his cardboard throne!
2008-07-30 21:43:57
364.   Icaros
That ending was regfairfield approved.
2008-07-30 21:44:11
365.   The Dude Abides
356-exactly...Pierre in LF can't even throw out runners going from first to third on a single.
2008-07-30 21:44:48
366.   LeeLacy
Four shutouts in five games--I can definitely get used to that.

It's hard not to get excited about the prospect of Chad and Clayton at the top of the rotation for the next half-dozen or so years.

2008-07-30 21:45:17
367.   Alex41592
4 shutouts in the last 5 games. Goodness.
2008-07-30 21:45:24
368.   Tripon
This team might be pretty good.

Think Jones gets another start? We know he credits Defense, and Jones is a better defensive player than JP is, and Torre has to see this offense clicks better when Kemp gets on base.

2008-07-30 21:46:16
369.   Bob Hendley
359 - Seems that they actually threw the book away on that one. All away around: Sending the runner and throwing home.

Sure was great, though!

2008-07-30 21:46:25
370.   larry slimfast
what would his game score have been if what's his stuff had scored?
2008-07-30 21:47:32
371.   Alex41592
And oh yeah Brandon Webb vs Derek Lowe tomorrow night. That's all.
2008-07-30 21:47:57
372.   JoeyP
How many more gams vs the Nats & Giants remain this year?
2008-07-30 21:49:11
373.   MonkeyBlue
372. 9 SF games and 3 Nats games.
2008-07-30 21:50:54
374.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2008-07-30 21:50:58
375.   Tripon
Watching Rays/Twins highlight on Sportscenter. The Rays road uni looks just like the Dodgers unis. Right down to the blue and grey, what's up with that?
2008-07-30 21:52:02
376.   Humma Kavula
That goes down as the weirdest and most wonderful ending of the year.

Congratulations to Chad. I agree that he looked done, but he earned that CG SHO the hard way.

2008-07-30 21:53:51
377.   KG16
The South Park baseball episode is on. It's almost over, but it's got a great finish.
2008-07-30 21:55:26
378.   trainwreck
You're about to get Bat-Dad'd.

I thought this was America?

2008-07-30 21:56:11
379.   LogikReader
There's a John Mellencamp concert going on at the SB bowl a mile from me. I can hear the next song.

What's it called again? "I fought the .... something and the something... always wins"

Then he says it again.

2008-07-30 22:08:00
380.   Brent Knapp
According to my limited knowledge of free agency rules I think Billingsley has three years before he can file for free agency after this year. I think he's someone we should definitely try to sign long term. I'll pull numbers out of my posterior:

2009 - 5 mil
2010 - 6 mil
2011 - 8 mil
2012 - 9 mil
2013 - 10 mil (option)
2014 - 11 mil (option)

4 year, $28 million guaranteed, is this a reasonable deal for either side? How about Russell Martin, would a similar contract be reasonable?

2008-07-30 22:27:32
381.   silverwidow
380 Dodgers control Billingsley for 4 more years.


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