Who's getting paid, Maddux? or the Padres?

Tom, interesting stats. What is the boost in HR/PA that a player gets at home vs road? Also, did you calculate these numbers yourself, or where did you pull them from? What years are included in these stats?
Thanks.
vr, Xei

If so, no big deal. A (presumably) rich team pays off a not-as-rich team for one of its players. That's the natural order of things in the jungle.

If the cash considerations were going the other way, that's another story.

There must be something better to do there than read this stuff.

I guess the guy just loves his new toy.

Plus my friends aren't coming up until tomorrow. I have to pace myself.

Oh, and someone tell Mr. Colletti that acquiring washed-up FORMERLY great players is actually pretty easy. That's why he's able to do it.

The Dodgers will pay the Padres later for the use of their hose to put out a fire.

Meanwhile, Matt Kemp and Manny Ramirez will save the world from fascism.

"The 37-year-old veteran is heading to the Red Sox for a player to be named later or cash considerations."

Well, he BA'd .331 last season...

Judas!

Oooh, now I expect BH to call you a liar and say he doesn't believe you, followed by an amazing version of his most well known post.

By HR/(PA-IBB-SH), Dunn has been .0654 in CIN and .0544 elsewhere; the "norm" as above is .0288 at home and .0275 away. So, a 20.1% gain for Dunn instead of a 4.7% gain. His wOBA on the three true outcomes (including HBP, excluding IBB) has been .495 at home and .458 away. The 03-07 ML had a .429 wOBA on TTO at home against .401 on the road. So, Dunn has been 8% better on those against the norm of 6.9%.

I have a way of splitting up wOBA (right now, ROE not included) between Plate contribution (K, BB, and number of balls put into play) and Yard contribution (i.e., how well the ball traveled - 1B, 2B, 3B, HR, Outs in play); might publish the details some day. Anyway, Dunn's Plate is .327 H / .325 R, vs. 03-07ML's .334 H / .329 R. Dunn's Yard is .396 H / .379 R vs. 03-07ML's .335 H / .328 R.

While GABP has helped Dunn's raw totals, it has not done so to a greater extent than the typical park factors used to adjust his numbers would suggest.

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Highest Slugging Pct in August, NL Players, 2008

(minimum 40 AB)

Ty Wigginton, Hou .932
Ryan Ludwick, StL .803
Andre Ethier, LAD .786
Manny Ramirez, LAD .780

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The Lahman database doesn't provide data for particular outfield usages prior to 1995 (i.e., the "OF" designation is widespread), making it difficult to say with any certainty how things broke down. Nevertheless, and relaxing things a bit for the sake of convenience (RoY only, any named position, including pitchers and DHs):

1962-64 Giants, OF: Cepeda, Kuenn, Mays, McCovey
1964-65 Giants, 1B: Cepeda, Kuenn, Mays, McCovey
1958-59 Senators, OF: Bob Allison, Albie Pearson, Roy Sievers
1959, 1961-1964 Dodgers, OF: Jim Gilliam, Frank Howard, Wally Moon
1976 Yankees, DH: Chris Chambliss, Thurman Munson, Lou Piniella
1977 Mets, P: John Matlack, Tom Seaver, Pat Zachry
1980-81 Dodgers, P: Steve Howe, Rick Sutcliffe, Fernando Valenzuela
1983 Dodgers, P: Steve Howe, Fernando Valenzuela, Pat Zachry
1986 White Sox, DH: Carlton Fisk, Ozzie Guillen, Ron Kittle
1993 Orioles, P: Gregg Olson, Rick Sutcliffe, Fernando Valenzuela
2000 Yankees, DH: Jose Canseco, David Justice, Chuck Knoblauch

Thanks, just found Jon's post linking it from the previous thread.

That would fit with the current philosophy.

So, it looks like it's a salary dump. If the Dodgers don't like the Padres player decisions they can write them a nice check and say no thanks.

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Not too worried.
vr, Xei

In any case, we might be sending the Padres two minor leaguers or we might be sending them cash. I don't see that it's worth trying to play the guessing game until the answer just comes.

Ken Gurnick wrote this of Maddux:
"Maddux went a tough-luck 6-9 with 11 no-decisions and a 3.99 ERA for San Diego." Where exactly did the tough luck come in? The Padres have scored 3.82 runs per game, and Maddux has allowed 4.70. I actually think Maddux is still a slightly above average SP (NL SP have .486 Wins/Decision), but to call that 6-9 tough luck is a huge stretch.

It all depends on who's doing the considering, and who doesn't have any cash.

it's the "best fit" regression formula for converting the fielding independent pitching stats into ERA (developed by Tom Tango, I believe).
vr, Xei

It looks like the diff. b/w ERA and FIP is bigger on the road - so it's the latter, right?

Please 'splain the implications of the stats you just provided, if you're so inclined. My brain is suffering from a lack of lunch.

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91 If I recall correctly, his BABIP split has been .230 at Home and .350 on the road this season. Keep in mind that the denominator in FIP is IP, which is BABIP-impacted.

Any idea what the "r-squareds" usually are on such models...?

Interesting in Maddux's case. That his home and road FIP are so similar means that he gives up more HRs and BBs in Petco than I would have expected. I'd think that for a control pitcher, Petco would be nirvana - just toss up hittable (but not crushable) balls and let the defense run under them.

Dodger Stadium's slightly better-than-average HR factor plus a pretty lousy defense suggest that a Maddux who could not even take full advantage of PETCO (more lucky than good, evidently) might be hard to watch here.

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1958-59 Senators, OF: Bob Allison, Albie Pearson, Roy Sievers - Pearson won in '58 and Allison won in '59, so... Pearson and Sievers didn't overlap at any position, and Pearson was traded in early '59 to make room for Allison in CF.

1959, 1961-1964 Dodgers, OF: Jim Gilliam, Frank Howard, Wally Moon. They all played at LF in '59, '61, and '62 and RF in '59, '62, and '64. However, Howard was ROY in '60. Gilliam played 63 innings in the OF in '59, 0 in '60, 63 in '61, 2 in '62, 0 in '63, and 1 in '64; he logged two games in RF in '64, playing in one bottom of the ninth (home team lost) and one bottom of the 13th (walkoff single with one out, scoring Orlando Cepeda!).

1976 Yankees, DH: Chris Chambliss, Thurman Munson, Lou Piniella - Piniella and Munson both played at LF, RF, and DH (with most of Munson's time at catcher, of course), and Chambliss played all 1B except for one game at DH on September 20.

1977 Mets, P: John Matlack, Tom Seaver, Pat Zachry - all pitched out of the rotation (exclusively), so this one counts for sure. Zachry won the '76 ROY for Cincinnati and was part of the package the Mets received for Seaver when he was traded in June of that year, so this was an in-season swap of ROY with Zachry taking Seaver's place in the rotation.

1980-81 Dodgers, P: Steve Howe, Rick Sutcliffe, Fernando Valenzuela - of course, they won the awards in '79-'81. All three pitched in the games of 9/28/80 (Valenzuela came in after Howe blew an 8th inning lead) and 10/6/80 (the one-game playoff: Sutcliffe took over in the 4th, got an out, and then loaded the bases before Joe Beckwith came in and let all three score; Howe and Valenzuela split the final four innings, yielding only one hit and no runs). In '81, Fernando only started, Howe only relieved, and Sutcliffe did both. Howe appeared in four of the six games started by Sutcliffe and four of the 25 Fernando starts (he had 11 CG); Sutcliffe appeared in two of Fernando's starts, and all three pitched in a game on June 6.

1983 Dodgers, P: Steve Howe, Fernando Valenzuela, Pat Zachry - This one works, although if a SP/RP distinction is used it does not. Zachry made 39 relief appearances and one start. The start was game 2 of a doubleheader, and the Dodgers won 2-1 with Howe giving up the only run. The three all took the mound in the games on June 29 and September 10.

1986 White Sox, DH: Carlton Fisk, Ozzie Guillen, Ron Kittle - They were teammates in '85 (when Guillen won) as well. Guillen started all but 12 games at SS and played at no other position. On June 12, trailing 4-3 with Fisk at C and Kittle at DH (both started the game), Kittle hit a single to lead off the top of the ninth. Guillen pinch ran for Kittle and scored the tying run; the Sox added 4 more to go up 8-4. In the bottom of the ninth, Guillen stayed in the game at SS. So this one hinges on whether you want to credit Guillen with a game played at DH. Both Kittle and Fisk saw time at LF, as well.

1993 Orioles, P: Gregg Olson, Rick Sutcliffe, Fernando Valenzuela - Another hit. No overlapping games, as the latter two only made one appearance in relief each. Olson was an elite closer at the time and Sutcliffe and Valenzuela were innings eaters in the rotation walking as many batters as they were striking out.

2000 Yankees, DH: Jose Canseco, David Justice, Chuck Knoblauch - Shane Spencer had more games than any of them and only Canseco logged more games there than Glenallan Hill, but this one's a definite hit.

Kemp, CF
Ethier, RF
Kent, 2B
Manny, LF
Loney, 1B
Martin, C
Nomar, SS
Blake, 3B
Kuroda, P

Kinda interesting that Nomar seems to be entrenched at the 7th spot. I would have thought Torre would have tried to inch him back up the batting order to 5th or 6th by now to dispel Loney or Martin.

Go Dodgers!
vr, Xei

I got an email today from the commissioner and we are having a live auction in a private lounge below a bar. We each have to chip in $50, and it's a keeper league. I am so overwhelmed, and I'm sure I'll pick a bunch of losers. Of course, being in over your head is probably the best way to assure victory in fantasy sports.

I'm mildly surprised that Torre was OK with this move, unless of course Proctor really is that badly injured.

Billingsley 3.10
Kershaw 3.59
Kuroda 3.88
Lowe 3.99
Maddux 3.99

Does any other starting rotation in baseball have all 5 starters with sub 4 ERA's?

Also the back-up starters Johnson, Stults, Park all carry ERA's of 3.18 or below, not that those ERA's would hold with larger samples, but still interesting)

But then, I have never played fantasy football so don't go by me.

You will probably win the league by just picking players you interviewed on your training camp tour.

Goodness, who cares? He's allowed to party when he's not working, no?

Really.

Billingsley 142
Kershaw 123
Kuroda 114
Lowe 111
Maddux 98 (because of Petco's park factor of 91)

The staff ERA+ is 121.