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Quest for Redemption: Day 1 (of 1?)
2008-08-29 17:20
by Jon Weisman

Dodgers at Diamondbacks,
6:40 p.m.

Tonight's Lineup
Russell Martin, C
Andre Ethier, RF
Manny Ramirez, LF
Jeff Kent, 2B
Matt Kemp, CF
James Loney, 1B
Nomar Garciaparra, SS
Casey Blake, 3B
Hiroki Kuroda, P

Comments (320)
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2008-08-29 17:27:46
1.   D4P
Brewers at Dodgers...?
2008-08-29 17:28:25
2.   underdog
If only we could go back to those first two series of the last homestand, yah.
2008-08-29 17:39:04
3.   68elcamino427
In baseball streaks stop and start on a dime.

Go Dodgers!

2008-08-29 17:42:40
4.   ToyCannon
Christian Guzman is simply on fire.
2008-08-29 17:43:08
5.   ToyCannon
With inflation, they now start and stop on a quarter.
2008-08-29 18:02:07
6.   Bob Timmermann
You would think that with baseball salaries today, players could afford to turn on more than a quarter.
2008-08-29 18:07:06
7.   Andrew Shimmin
Turning is for wimps. It's full steam ahead, for me. That's just how I roll.
2008-08-29 18:21:46
8.   Bob Hendley
All Hail my DT Bretheren (and doggies and ducks and small artillery) who have been swept away (upon an island...) by fillies and gnatz whilst I toiled unheeded in the sticks of Colombia. I am here now to join you on the field again to do battle with the dreaded snakes in a stadium. Go gittem Bums!
2008-08-29 18:24:25
9.   oshea2002
Thank goodness for Rule 5, other sports message boards have become unreadable today.
2008-08-29 18:25:03
10.   bluespop
I like this lineup. Torre shows some flexibility here. Maybe born out of desperation. What I'd really like to see is Kent dropped to sixth, Blake seventh and Nomar eigth.
2008-08-29 18:29:20
11.   preacherroe
I had a chance to go to the game tomorrow for free, but had already bought tickets to the University of Arizona football game. I can't say I feel that bad about missing the game. The road trip has deflated my hopes. There's a part of me that wouldn't mind a Snakes sweep for a couple reasons.
A) 0-10 is a pretty unique accomplishment

B) the Dodgers season is like a loved one with a long lingering illness. When they mercifully pass its a relief.

C) Sayonara Ned (fingers crossed)

2008-08-29 18:34:16
12.   Alex41592
1/2 back, 6 1/2 back, 2 1/2 back or 4 1/2 back.

The battle of the negatives. - Vin

2008-08-29 18:36:35
13.   Bob Hendley
11 - Ouch! (now, just what part of you would that be?) The Wildcats are still in the PAC 10?
2008-08-29 18:37:49
14.   68elcamino427
Ahhh! Basking in the goodness that is Vin.
Vin sounds great tonight and looking mighty spry too.

Go Dodgers!

2008-08-29 18:37:50
15.   Xeifrank
12. or 3-1/2 back if all three games get rained out. :)
vr, Xei
2008-08-29 18:41:07
16.   oshea2002
Another K Cal game, great, I get to listen to Gracie.
2008-08-29 18:42:19
17.   kinbote
12 2.5 back would count as a major step forward.
2008-08-29 18:42:43
18.   Bob Hendley
I like the line-up as well, invention being a mother and all...
2008-08-29 18:44:44
19.   Alex41592
Vinny is definitely in vintage form tonight. You can just hear it. Could be that or we all just missed him a lot. Probably both.
2008-08-29 18:45:04
20.   oshea2002
The Snakes announcers fear Manny.
2008-08-29 18:47:38
21.   Bob Hendley
Manny being Dunn?
2008-08-29 18:48:27
22.   thinkblue88
Kemp on deck, its nice to know you have a power threat after the 4 spot.
2008-08-29 18:49:04
23.   Bob Hendley
They said that they fear Kent as well, beyond belief they said.
2008-08-29 18:49:57
24.   oshea2002
That was a Jones-esqe AB swinging and missing those.
2008-08-29 18:50:50
25.   thinkblue88
Totally, he sounds energized for this series.
2008-08-29 18:52:25
26.   Alex41592
Lefties were batting .314 against Davis heading into tonight. Ethier doubled and Loney is up.
2008-08-29 18:53:09
27.   oshea2002
This is a big inning/game. Davis is always wild, if we can get in their pen quickly, hopefully we can try and get the pitch counts up the next two nights and get those guys out after 7. I don't see us really scoring off those guys, so a tired pen looks like our best shot.
2008-08-29 18:53:54
28.   preacherroe
13- Bob , I'm an Auburn fan so its strictly something to do. I do like the Wildcats basketball team, but they are fallen from grace also.
Despite my dashed hopes I'll root for the Dodgers down to game 162 if that's all there is.
2008-08-29 18:54:25
29.   thinkblue88
....and so it continues....
2008-08-29 18:54:41
30.   Humma Kavula
Three down, fifteen to go.
2008-08-29 18:54:52
31.   oshea2002
28 - Who is Zona playing tomorrow?
2008-08-29 18:55:26
32.   oshea2002
At this rate I would have died of shock if Loney had gotten a hit there.
2008-08-29 18:56:24
33.   Marty
Why do I watch?
2008-08-29 18:56:25
34.   cargill06
:( :( :(
2008-08-29 18:56:56
35.   cargill06
That inning is on me... I wasn't wearing my rally cap
2008-08-29 18:57:09
36.   Marty
I got an email from Plaschke today. Bet y'all are jealous.
2008-08-29 18:57:19
37.   Bob Timmermann
The University of Arizona is on my obelisk.

In very large letters. Maybe three feet high. I'm thinking of devoting one whole side of the obelisk to the University of Arizona. There could be a bas relief of a drunken Wildcat football fan storming the field after UofA beats New Mexico State 22-21 to clinch a 4-8 season.

2008-08-29 18:58:40
38.   oshea2002
36 - what'd he say?
2008-08-29 18:59:41
39.   oshea2002
Chris Young is brutal against us.
2008-08-29 19:00:29
40.   Bob Hendley
28 - Didn't want to get into a row. I knew I was preaching to the converted. We just deal with our misery differently. Go Tigers!
2008-08-29 19:01:30
41.   Marty
36 Work related. Thanking me/my staff for Olympics support.
2008-08-29 19:11:44
42.   Bob Hendley
Some of us seek solace in large pointed columns.
2008-08-29 19:14:01
43.   Bob Timmermann
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for me to have any respect for a UofA alum.
2008-08-29 19:15:31
44.   D4P
Take that, Nate.
2008-08-29 19:18:48
45.   Jimi Shelter
That's a lead off hitter! Way to go, Russell!
2008-08-29 19:20:06
46.   Bob Hendley
A God of a golden hue, that one.
2008-08-29 19:21:55
47.   Bob Hendley
Yuck, D( )P
2008-08-29 19:23:26
48.   ucladodger
Our first 3 hitters each have a hit in the first 3 innings. None of those hits came with a runner on base. Thats crazy and really sums up the last week.
2008-08-29 19:25:02
49.   oshea2002
Another multi hit, no run inning. Ridiculous string of bad luck.
2008-08-29 19:27:10
50.   oshea2002
Anyone see any upsets this weekend? I think ECU could knock of V. Tech, but that's about it. Fresno over Rutgers, Utah over Michigan or Michigan State over Cal I don't really consider upsets.
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2008-08-29 19:30:39
51.   Bob Hendley
43 - You would think that someone who actually graduates from that place should be given special consideration.
2008-08-29 19:32:27
52.   68elcamino427
Kuroda! Retires 8 in a row!
2008-08-29 19:33:04
53.   D4P
Every DBack PA thus far has ended in an "out" fashion.
2008-08-29 19:33:09
54.   68elcamino427
Kuroda! Make that 9 in a row!
2008-08-29 19:36:13
55.   preacherroe
Oshea, The Cats are playing the feared Idaho Vandals (I think that's their name)
I don't have a dog in the UA fight so bash on. Real football will be played tomorrow in certain Southeastern Conference locations.
2008-08-29 19:37:16
56.   Alex41592
The way we're hitting Loney will get a hit here.
2008-08-29 19:37:43
57.   ucladodger
Matt is really in it bad lately. He has been super aggressive early in counts and really missing his pitches.
2008-08-29 19:38:32
58.   ucladodger
C'mon James. 86 mph fastball down the heart on a 3-1 count and you're late? Sit dead red and take a rip. If it isnt a fastball, oh well, go 3-2.
2008-08-29 19:39:36
59.   Sam DC
Nationals win again because, well, baseball is sort of ridiculous at times.
2008-08-29 19:39:54
60.   oshea2002
55 - I can't bash Idaho too much since we opened with them last year. I'm actually catching the SC game at a bar in St. Louis - got tickets to the Illinois / Missouri game, which should be a good one.

You're in Auburn fan? When is the West Virginia game, next week?

2008-08-29 19:40:30
61.   D4P
If there's one thing this team is good at, it's hitting infield singles.
2008-08-29 19:41:43
62.   Alex41592
We cleared Kuroda.
2008-08-29 19:42:27
63.   oshea2002
This team is a singles machine.

Another multi hit - no run inning.

2008-08-29 19:44:09
64.   Bob Timmermann
Somebody doublecheck my ridiculous scenario for the Nats staying alive in the NL East on The Griddle.
2008-08-29 19:57:17
65.   ucladodger
Ned Coletti's D'backs- 1
Ned coletti's Dodgers- 0

And man, there is nobody on here tonight. shows what a week will do.

2008-08-29 19:57:18
66.   ucladodger
Ned Coletti's D'backs- 1
Ned coletti's Dodgers- 0

And man, there is nobody on here tonight. shows what a week will do.

2008-08-29 19:57:27
67.   68elcamino427
Dunn - The big man goes oppo!
2008-08-29 19:57:58
68.   Bob Timmermann
That run never would have scored if the Dodgers had put a waiver claim in for Wil Ledezma.
2008-08-29 20:04:47
69.   oshea2002
Nice hustle by Andre.
2008-08-29 20:05:50
70.   thinkblue88
I'm not sure what to feel in these situations...
2008-08-29 20:06:31
71.   Bob Hendley
Jeff Kent, feared beyond belief.
2008-08-29 20:07:07
72.   Bob Timmermann
I think you're supposed to be thinking of England.
2008-08-29 20:07:25
73.   oshea2002
Wow - that looked like a bad call.
2008-08-29 20:08:15
74.   oshea2002
Actually, I take that bag, he looked safe.
2008-08-29 20:08:15
75.   Alex41592
Missed the tag Reynolds.
2008-08-29 20:08:24
76.   Humma Kavula
looks like the good guys got away with one there.

'course, he hasn't scored yet.

2008-08-29 20:09:40
77.   Humma Kavula
Dear Jeff Kent,

Put the ball in the air.

Sincerely yours,


2008-08-29 20:09:58
78.   fracule
Looks like he swiped in front of the foot.
2008-08-29 20:10:13
79.   oshea2002
Come on Bison, lets go! Wait for a pitch to hit.
2008-08-29 20:10:21
80.   Humma Kavula
Or walk. That's fine.

Now: Bison.

2008-08-29 20:11:20
81.   Bob Timmermann
I think the unassisted double play by the second baseman is in order here.

We haven't had that one in a while.

2008-08-29 20:11:23
82.   fanerman
Season turns around now.
2008-08-29 20:11:40
83.   MonkeyBlue
Come on Bison!
2008-08-29 20:12:35
84.   Alex41592
That'll work. Sac fly.
2008-08-29 20:12:39
85.   oshea2002
Good job with two strikes there.
2008-08-29 20:12:40
86.   Humma Kavula
OK. Fine. Run scores.
2008-08-29 20:12:47
87.   MonkeyBlue
Well it a best possible outcome for a flyball.
2008-08-29 20:12:56
88.   68elcamino427
Bison RBI!
2008-08-29 20:13:07
89.   ucladodger
Wow, an actual professional AB. Imagine that.
2008-08-29 20:13:19
90.   Alex41592
Just breathe and put the bat on the ball.
2008-08-29 20:13:22
91.   oshea2002
I know he had two strikes, but by next year I'm thinking Bison puts that half way up the left field seats.
2008-08-29 20:14:00
92.   ucladodger
2008-08-29 20:14:08
93.   MonkeyBlue
2008-08-29 20:14:08
94.   Alex41592
2008-08-29 20:14:16
95.   fracule
Ooh, Kemp let him get away with that.
2008-08-29 20:14:16
96.   Humma Kavula
2008-08-29 20:14:28
97.   68elcamino427
#7 James Loney!
2008-08-29 20:14:30
98.   Tripon
HOLY HOLY HOLY! We actually scored a run on a hit!
2008-08-29 20:14:49
99.   LAT
I just got home and I'm sure this was discussed at length but I absolutly loved Simmers today. That letter from the McCourt's would have been lame even if the team had 10 game lead never mind. Its was so insipid. Will these people ever learn to stay in the background and keep their insincere mouth shut.
2008-08-29 20:15:03
100.   fanerman
Weird Game James!!!!
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2008-08-29 20:15:18
101.   Humma Kavula
Wow, Andre was really out.
2008-08-29 20:16:03
102.   silverwidow
Lambo went 4 for 4 today with another HR.

Wow, he is on fire with Jax!

2008-08-29 20:16:18
103.   Humma Kavula
101 And by "really," I mean I wish I'd typed: He wasn't just merely out, he was really most sincerely out.
2008-08-29 20:16:31
104.   Bob Hendley
Snake announcers in lamenting mode.
2008-08-29 20:17:01
105.   Tripon
Kuroda might be our ace over Bills.
2008-08-29 20:17:32
106.   Alex41592
104 - I eagerly await a Gameday clip.
2008-08-29 20:17:50
107.   thinkblue88
yesssssss!! (delayed reaction)
2008-08-29 20:18:04
108.   oshea2002
104 - at least they're blaming Davis for botching the 1B play instead of the ump.
2008-08-29 20:20:16
109.   Bob Timmermann
As I will be driving back and forth across the great state of Michigan tomorrow, I will turn in and say this game is over and declare the Dodgers to be winners.
2008-08-29 20:22:52
110.   ucladodger


2008-08-29 20:25:12
111.   Tripon
110 At the moment. Kuroda's been pitching really great lately, while Bills has taken a small step back.
2008-08-29 20:26:03
112.   Bob Hendley
109 - Say hi to Ted Nugent.
2008-08-29 20:27:24
113.   Alex41592
Well these past 12 minutes felt nice. I'll cherish them.
2008-08-29 20:27:55
114.   Humma Kavula
New baseball rule:

(1) The team Bob is rooting for is ahead; and
(2) Bob is not in California; and
(3) It's time for Bob to go to bed; then
(4) The game shall be declared over by acclamation.

2008-08-29 20:29:45
115.   Humma Kavula
ohhhhhhhh that was ugly.
2008-08-29 20:29:52
116.   Tripon
And there is your 2008 Dodgers.
2008-08-29 20:30:51
117.   MonkeyBlue
Well I'm done for the night.
2008-08-29 20:30:53
118.   Andrew Shimmin
I remember Luis Salazar!
2008-08-29 20:31:07
119.   Alex41592
(Ring Ring)

Chin Lung-Hu white courtesy telephone call for you.

2008-08-29 20:31:14
120.   Humma Kavula

,ramoN reaD


,sruoy ylerecnis


2008-08-29 20:31:49
121.   sweepstakes
2008-08-29 20:31:53
122.   LAT
Nomar is not helping the team in so many diffrent ways.
2008-08-29 20:32:02
123.   Tripon
Erstad and Moelher signed one year extension with the Astros.

2008-08-29 20:32:14
124.   LAT
And still no outs.
2008-08-29 20:32:51
125.   Tripon
I wish Nomar took PEDs, I really do.
2008-08-29 20:32:55
126.   thinkblue88
i love the dodgers, but its a friday night, they are out. good luck d's,
2008-08-29 20:32:59
127.   ucladodger
Thats what happens to crummy teams. Crummy defense by a guy who shouldnt be out there leads to a loss. Just let every guy over 30 go and rebuild. This is so sickening to watch.
2008-08-29 20:33:46
128.   ucladodger

and again, no.

2008-08-29 20:34:35
129.   jdbeauchamp
Darren Ra Ra Sutton is going to blow my speakers with his fits of unprofessional homer rage.

Perhaps a lawsuit is in order.

2008-08-29 20:34:55
130.   Humma Kavula
Nomar Garciaparra used to be my favorite player.

And he still seems like a good guy. I wish him every happiness in retirement.

Which needs to begin, like, right now.

2008-08-29 20:36:20
131.   Andrew Shimmin
128- It has been almost an entire month since Billingsley's last shutout.
2008-08-29 20:37:24
132.   ucladodger

Lol. Thanks for making me chuckle.

2008-08-29 20:38:34
133.   Humma Kavula
The Dodgers will need at least five runs to win this one. The last time they scored at least five was twelve days ago, Sunday, the 17th, at Dodger Stadium, against the Brewers, who they beat, 7-5.
2008-08-29 20:38:45
134.   oshea2002
Our 2 PVL's up the middle are killing us.
2008-08-29 20:42:50
135.   Alex41592
WOOT1 D'Backs fan helps the blue. Watch your tires pal.
2008-08-29 20:42:52
136.   Tripon
Thank you dumb dumb D'Backs fan for fan interference.
2008-08-29 20:42:52
137.   Humma Kavula
Mrs. Kavula is amused by snarky Vin.
2008-08-29 20:42:56
138.   Andrew Shimmin
There's a break. I don't think Loney would have gotten that. Maybe, but I wouldn't have bet on it.
2008-08-29 20:43:42
139.   oshea2002
Sutton and Gracie would be screaming bloody murder if a Dodger fan reached onto the field of play and caught a ball like that, they're being very disingenuous.
2008-08-29 20:44:38
140.   Bob Hendley
Perhaps one of the Snake fans would be kind enough to make Nomar's plays as well.
2008-08-29 20:45:01
141.   Jon Weisman
I love Vin.
2008-08-29 20:45:08
142.   LAT
Rarely do you hear Vin go off on someone like that.
2008-08-29 20:45:12
143.   Alex41592
Vinny is the best. Just the best.
2008-08-29 20:46:26
144.   Humma Kavula
Vin is in rare form. He can't understand how that guy is still in his seat.
2008-08-29 20:46:40
145.   sweepstakes
139- agree completely.
2008-08-29 20:47:01
146.   grady44
141, 142, 143-

What did Vin say? I'm stuck w/ the D-Back homers.

2008-08-29 20:47:32
147.   Alex41592
Elbert will be coming in.
2008-08-29 20:47:42
148.   Tripon
Elbert warming up.
2008-08-29 20:48:09
149.   LogikReader
Not that it makes any difference, but honestly, the Dbacks broadcasters should be FURIOUS at the fan. He might have prevented an even bigger inning.
2008-08-29 20:48:11
150.   Humma Kavula
"Yeah, nice play, pal."

"He's still there. BIG MAN."

After the batter is out and Melvin is tossed... "And if that fan isn't kicked out, that's the biggest tragedy of all."

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2008-08-29 20:48:33
151.   preacherroe
60- the West Virginia game is Oct 23. It was supposed to be opening game but Auburn opted out for a cupcake.
Peewee Young homered for the third game in a row.
2008-08-29 20:48:44
152.   Tripon
146 Just went off on the fan who caught the ball. Said that the D'backs should kick the guy out of the stadium just to make it fair. And the rant went on a couple of more minutes.

And they did kick the guy out.

2008-08-29 20:48:53
153.   LogikReader
Fan kicked out

...and justice prevails!

2008-08-29 20:49:07
154.   Humma Kavula
"And it's small solace to all concerned, but at least they did kick the guy out. It's the least they coulda done."
2008-08-29 20:50:03
155.   Jimi Shelter
137. Mrs. Shelter is chuckling too. We love Vin!
2008-08-29 20:50:29
156.   Tripon
Does D'Backs fans think Russell Martin is Daryl Strawberry?
2008-08-29 20:51:02
157.   LogikReader
If Dodgers pull a miracle and come back to tie, Vin will really start going off on that fan.
2008-08-29 20:51:53
158.   Bob Hendley
151 - Thanks for the Pee Wee news. I sure miss the guy.
2008-08-29 20:52:12
159.   LogikReader
Why does Ned Colletti like old baseball players?
2008-08-29 20:52:25
160.   Humma Kavula
157 It's too bad. I would've liked to hear more from Vin on the subject.
2008-08-29 20:53:35
161.   LogikReader
Herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre's Elbert!
2008-08-29 20:53:38
162.   Humma Kavula
I remember listening to Elbert pitch in... oh it must have been 2006. He had something like 13 Ks in the game, one or two walks... I dreamed big.
2008-08-29 20:55:13
163.   Humma Kavula
I predict one of the three true outcomes for Dunn.
2008-08-29 20:56:20
164.   Humma Kavula
Welcome, Mr. Elbert! That one was almost as nice as Kershaw's knee-buckler against Casey in spring training.
2008-08-29 20:57:43
165.   Tripon
159 Because Ned is a PR man, not a scout or one of those newfangled Stat analyst guys. Its a real weakness of his since he's always thinking of potential PR scenarios instead of will the guy help in the field. Notice that in just about every press release about an acquired veteran player, its always about his heart, or how he's a gamer or a grinder. Its almost never about how that player skills can help a ball club. That's because Ned doesn't understand the finer parts of the game, and never cared to learn it, and yet he's a GM of a MLB team.
2008-08-29 21:00:07
166.   Tripon
Man, Elbert looks like he's falling off the mound every time. I'm almost afraid he'll fall off and hurt his knee or elbow.
2008-08-29 21:01:57
167.   Humma Kavula
2 Ks and a full-count walk. Not bad.
2008-08-29 21:02:08
168.   oshea2002
Grace on Elbert - "you're doing way too good, so you're gonna have to leave the ballgame."
2008-08-29 21:02:09
169.   Tripon
Elbert pulled, Park is in.
2008-08-29 21:02:09
170.   ucladodger
Torre takes this righty/lefty stuff waaaaaaaay too seriously.
2008-08-29 21:02:25
171.   Icaros
I don't get the move, Joe. It's the 6th inning.
2008-08-29 21:03:35
172.   Tripon
Park is the ROOGY, duh.
2008-08-29 21:04:08
173.   grady44
With the bottom of the lineup coming up and Elbert looking strong, this makes no sense. Way to completely torch the bullpen Joe.
2008-08-29 21:04:12
174.   LogikReader
If Chan Ho chucks a HR here, I've seen everything in this game.
2008-08-29 21:04:59
175.   LogikReader
Well let's focus on the positive. For Elbert's first appearance (that I know of), he did a really good job. I was impressed!
2008-08-29 21:05:50
176.   underdog
172 You sound like Scooby Doo there.

Well, seeing the debut of Scott Elbert almost makes me excited about baseball again. Almost.

154 But was it a quantum of solace, Vin?

2008-08-29 21:06:00
177.   LogikReader
Humma K, you were so close to a commenting cycle! I was pullin' for you buddy.
2008-08-29 21:07:30
178.   Tripon
Dear Chan Ho. Be like Elbert and strike people out.
2008-08-29 21:08:04
179.   Alex41592
Perhaps they don't want Elbert making more than 20 pitches.
2008-08-29 21:08:59
180.   underdog
174 If I see Chan Ho give up a home run, I'll chuck everything, you mean.
2008-08-29 21:10:07
181.   underdog
Yeah, I believe Elbert is on a fairly limited pitch count. Still, I feel like he could've gotten one more batter out. Anyway, it was great to finally see him, even if my MLBTV player kept crashing through half of it...

Back to lurking on GameDay.

2008-08-29 21:11:10
182.   Tripon
I rather see Elbert on the pitch count, it shows that Torre at least tries to practice what he preaches, such as protecting pitchers.
2008-08-29 21:12:32
183.   LogikReader
LOL. I think we've all come close do doing that this season.
2008-08-29 21:12:52
184.   LogikReader
183 meet 180
2008-08-29 21:13:08
185.   superbas
geez how slow is ethier? was the ball hit that hard?
2008-08-29 21:13:53
186.   LogikReader
Manny really chucked that ball to the 413 sign!
2008-08-29 21:14:11
187.   oshea2002
I love it, I hope Kent isn't injured either.
2008-08-29 21:14:29
188.   Alex41592
Kent is hurt. DeWitt pinch hitting.
2008-08-29 21:14:40
189.   Gagne55
185 It looked to me like Ethier was loafing it up the line for a bit.
2008-08-29 21:14:43
190.   Tripon
Manny Don't need no helmet for running.

Also, Manny assumed a batting stance at 2nd to make sure he got the okay to pick up his batting helmet that flew off during 1st and 2nd.

And Blake I'm not Casey DeWitt in the game.

And wow, DeWitt's shows some foul power.

2008-08-29 21:15:09
191.   underdog
Whoa... DeWitt pinch hitting for Kent?? I'm stunned.

And kind of like it.

2008-08-29 21:15:15
192.   Alex41592
2008-08-29 21:15:16
193.   LogikReader
2008-08-29 21:15:17
194.   Tripon
2008-08-29 21:15:18
195.   oshea2002
Great job Blake. He was all over Juan Cruz.
2008-08-29 21:15:20
196.   ucladodger
Dewitt! Maybe Kent will never play again....
2008-08-29 21:15:25
197.   68elcamino427
The Solution!
2008-08-29 21:15:28
198.   Alex41592
And he looked great on both cuts.
2008-08-29 21:15:29
199.   Gagne55
Manny loses his helmet twice in row.
2008-08-29 21:15:36
200.   superbas
woohoo our 2nd baseman next year!
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2008-08-29 21:15:49
201.   underdog
Oh, is he hurt? Hrm.
2008-08-29 21:16:07
202.   Tripon
Cruz is out, Qualls is in.
2008-08-29 21:16:39
203.   oshea2002
I legitimately hope there's nothing wrong with Kent, and that Torre simply pinch hit for him b/c he thinks our best chance of winning is with Kent on the bench.
2008-08-29 21:16:51
204.   underdog
The Mighty Solution!

Whatever happens today it's fun to see fresh young blood helping in this game.

Er... fresh young blood... sounds like a Hammer Horror movie.

2008-08-29 21:17:21
205.   Alex41592
I don't know for a fact he's hurt but pinch hitting for Kent doesn't seem like a thing Torre would do. Or most for that matter. But Kent was 1 for 13 against Cruz in the past so who knows.
2008-08-29 21:19:01
206.   underdog
Is Chad Qualls really 2 and 8? With a not bad ERA? Huh.
2008-08-29 21:20:08
207.   oshea2002
Ahh, that was Bison's pitch.
2008-08-29 21:20:31
208.   ucladodger
Finally Kemp gets a break.
2008-08-29 21:20:45
209.   68elcamino427
Bison Skill!
2008-08-29 21:20:47
210.   Tripon
Hah, Blake DeWitt had to wait for the ball to drop to move to 2nd.
2008-08-29 21:20:48
211.   superbas
the dodgers and kemp needed that
2008-08-29 21:20:57
212.   Gagne55
That was a scary moment. Good thing the O-Dog wasn't there.
2008-08-29 21:22:00
213.   Icaros
If Kent isn't hurt, that was an unprecedented move.
2008-08-29 21:22:19
214.   Tripon
DP's sucks.
2008-08-29 21:22:35
215.   Alex41592
2008-08-29 21:22:45
216.   ucladodger
Well that wasnt predictable.
2008-08-29 21:22:58
217.   Gagne55
I didn't want to say it, but I was expecting that 4-6-3.
2008-08-29 21:23:10
218.   underdog
Oh jeez, Googly Eyes! Bad timing. :-(
2008-08-29 21:23:28
219.   Humma Kavula
Dearest James,

You know I love ya, big guy. So it's with love -- love, I tell ya, that I say this.


Hugs and kisses,


2008-08-29 21:23:55
220.   cargill06
{Insert snarky comment to Toycannon here}

Seriously, that really sucks.

2008-08-29 21:24:06
221.   underdog
Kent left the game due to an injured knee, is the report.
2008-08-29 21:25:30
222.   underdog
219 Well he did also have an RBI single today, so there's that.
2008-08-29 21:25:37
223.   kinbote
Andruw and Lambo both getting time at 1b tonight . . .
2008-08-29 21:25:37
224.   Gagne55
220 Kent's knee or Loney's DP?
2008-08-29 21:25:45
225.   oshea2002
What the record for GIDP's by a left handed hitter with minimal power?
2008-08-29 21:25:46
226.   Tripon
Over at the Angels front. The Angels and Blue Jays are talking about potential backup shortstops, so there's a chance ol' friend David Eckstein is coming back to Orange County. I hope he does, because then we'll see who Scoscia plays, Brandon Wood who should be your SS of the future, or David Eckstein because he has the heart of a 4'9" guy in a 5'0" body.
2008-08-29 21:26:41
227.   Gagne55
Upton ripped that
2008-08-29 21:27:32
228.   Alex41592
Man that took no time at all.
2008-08-29 21:27:47
229.   LogikReader
Man... it doesn't look good now, but I'm happy to at least see signs of life.

And using Chan Ho Park in high leverage situations is a mistake this late in the year.

2008-08-29 21:27:49
230.   Gagne55
I wonder if Loney could have got that if he was playing back...
2008-08-29 21:28:01
231.   ucladodger
And they get the run back in 3 pitches.
2008-08-29 21:28:14
232.   Tripon
Why did Chan Ho Park become a pumpkin again?
2008-08-29 21:29:15
233.   LogikReader
I think tonight, I'm just glad they hit with runners in scoring position. We'll see what happens in the 8th; we'll see.
2008-08-29 21:30:38
234.   kinbote
232 Nothing gold can stay.
2008-08-29 21:31:50
235.   oshea2002
Park needs to suck it up and get out of this inning. We almost have to win this game. If we fall back 4 1/2, including 8 losses in a row, facing Haren and Webb the next two nights, we're basically going to have to play .700 ball to get in.
2008-08-29 21:31:57
236.   GMac In The 909
233 Assuming they ever get to the 8th, right?
2008-08-29 21:32:25
237.   68elcamino427
Poor Nomar
2008-08-29 21:32:32
238.   Tripon
Nomar what the heck Nomar. What the heck Nomar.
2008-08-29 21:32:42
239.   ucladodger
Just release Nomar now. Dude is worthless. Absolutely garbage fundamentals for a shortstop that cant field in the first place.
2008-08-29 21:32:44
240.   Humma Kavula
225 Keith Hernandez hit into 161 DPs in his career.

Mickey Vernon hit into 183.

Mark Grace hit into 191.

So far this year, before today, Loney had 35.

In other news, Nomar flubs his second probable double play.

2008-08-29 21:33:48
241.   Humma Kavula
240 Sorry, that's not this year. That's 35 career GIDPs for Loney before today.
2008-08-29 21:34:08
242.   underdog
I'm going to go take things out on my Wii now.

And then cry.

2008-08-29 21:35:05
243.   oshea2002
239 - Torre could pull a Bobby Cox and just yank him in the middle of the inning.
2008-08-29 21:35:14
244.   underdog
When's Furcal returning again?

When's Hu coming back?

When's the hurting going to stop?

2008-08-29 21:35:38
245.   Icaros

If this were an audio blog, that would be quite the comment.

2008-08-29 21:35:46
246.   Humma Kavula
Bill Buckner: 247 career double plays of the grounded into variety.
2008-08-29 21:35:46
247.   ucladodger
Well, thats probably all she wrote for the season. no way this should be happening to a team with a payroll of over $100 million and the wealth of young talent. Absolutely no way.
2008-08-29 21:35:48
248.   JRSarno
I'll have to play MLB The Show '08 just to remember what it's like to see a Dodger team (albeit digital) win again.
2008-08-29 21:36:19
249.   68elcamino427
Nomar ... as they say ... has been exposed.
2008-08-29 21:36:24
250.   oshea2002
241 - looks like James has a long way to go.
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2008-08-29 21:36:36
251.   grady44
Joe Torre, The Dodgers, Nomar, and Darren Sutton are not good for the structural integrity of my television.
2008-08-29 21:37:36
252.   kinbote
At least we have Torre's Stories. G'night.
2008-08-29 21:37:45
253.   Tripon
Nomar, that's your 3rd bobble in the game. Seriously, you're supposed to be a starting SS in the majors?
2008-08-29 21:37:45
254.   twerp
Has it been noted here that seldom has a team so extinguished itself?
2008-08-29 21:37:45
255.   Tripon
Nomar, that's your 3rd bobble in the game. Seriously, you're supposed to be a starting SS in the majors?
2008-08-29 21:37:51
256.   GMac In The 909
Good thing Dunn wasn't blocked ...

245 I LOLed in this time of sadness, so thanks for that.

2008-08-29 21:39:10
257.   Humma Kavula
Would you consider Rusty Staub had minimal power? If so, he's your answer. 297 career GIDPs.
2008-08-29 21:40:34
258.   oshea2002
This game was a must win, even for August, due to the matchups sat/sun and the fact we don't have enough games left with them. I'm ready for 2009. I need a 50 point outburst in Charlottesville to feel better about myself tomorrow.
2008-08-29 21:42:07
259.   kinbote
253 254 255 Is that rare? Something about the interstices of time?
2008-08-29 21:42:24
260.   underdog
Well, at least my Broncos are beating the other Phoenix team playing tonight, the Cardinals, in an utterly meaningless game played by 3rd and 4th stringers. The world's smallest consolation prize.
2008-08-29 21:42:34
261.   Humma Kavula
The Dodgers have lost eight straight?

It's time for this team to stand up for change! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!

2008-08-29 21:42:39
262.   preacherroe
When I was a young scaliwag shootin' craps in western New York, when someone tapped out we broke out in the Roy Rogers theme song:

"Happy Trails to you until we meet again

Happy trails to you keep smilin' until then

Sayonara season!

2008-08-29 21:43:56
263.   LAT
Remember Sept 5 is the last day to renew your 2009 season tickets at 2008 prices!
2008-08-29 21:44:07
264.   LogikReader
This afternoon someone felt that if Ned were to be excised this year, that the new GM would be more of the same.

Is that even possible? It seems like Ned is the worst GM (not just Dodger GM) I have seen seen since "the Sheriff". I don't know if that's an exaggeration. I've never seen so many ineffective players on the same team, offensively and defensively.

2008-08-29 21:44:14
265.   oshea2002
260 - your Broncos are going down next Monday (making prediction with zero confidence). I hope.
2008-08-29 21:44:33
266.   Reddog
I got back this morning from an 8 day trip to Oahu to find the team has totally collapsed. The only bright spot I can see is that next season, Nomar, Kent and Ned will all be gone. Of course, we'll still have Andruw Jones and Juan Pierre...
2008-08-29 21:45:03
267.   underdog
261 Hah hah. Not to get in Rule 5 territory but I wondered if I was the only one in the world to think that was a Dick Van Patten TV show reference.

My Wii Baseball game is going as badly as the Dodger game and now my arm hurts. Off to bed.

2008-08-29 21:45:19
268.   Humma Kavula
By the way, the single-season record for left-handed batters for GIDP is... Ben Grieve, 2000, with 32.

With his GIDP tonight, Loney has 22 on the season.

2008-08-29 21:46:28
269.   Icaros

Smaller than lunch with Verne Troyer?

2008-08-29 21:46:33
270.   LAT
While we at it, remember Sept 5 is also the last day to pay for your postseason tickets.
2008-08-29 21:46:47
271.   underdog
265 Argh, too many Raiders fans here! I need Hallux to protect me. I better hide next Monday. ;-)

I think it will be a close game. Depends on whether the Broncos run defense is as improved as I think it is. If not they could be in for a long night. Could be a high scoring game in fact.

2008-08-29 21:47:30
272.   underdog
269 Much smaller.
2008-08-29 21:48:09
273.   LogikReader
We talkin' quantum small, underdog?
2008-08-29 21:49:33
274.   underdog
Quantum of solace small.
2008-08-29 21:49:45
275.   LAT
267. What are the odds? I saw Dick Van Patton today at Hpllywood Park. Of course, he is always there. Its like Tommy and the buffet.
2008-08-29 21:50:14
276.   ryu
Inside of a dark closet are five hats: three blue and two red. Knowing this, three smart men go into the closet, and each selects a hat in the dark and places it unseen upon his head.

Once outside the closet, no man can see his own hat. The first man looks at the other two, thinks, and says, "I cannot tell what color my hat is." The second man hears this, looks at the other two, and says, "I cannot tell what color my hat is either." The third man is blind. The blind man says, "Well, I know what color my hat is." What color is his hat?

2008-08-29 21:50:24
277.   68elcamino427
Kemp - Martin - Loney - Ethier - Billingsley - Kou - Kuroda - Broxton - Kershaw.

There are some positives from this season so far.

2008-08-29 21:50:30
278.   LogikReader
2008-08-29 21:51:12
279.   Tripon
This is the Dodgers. This is the team you will be rooting for until you die.
2008-08-29 21:51:30
280.   LogikReader
I'm getting too lazy... the LOL was for LAT's comment.
2008-08-29 21:52:14
281.   GMac In The 909
276 October?
2008-08-29 21:53:12
282.   sporky
276 The same color as my mood.
2008-08-29 21:53:37
283.   LAT
In one of the stupiset things ever said, today on the radio, Vick the Brick advocated that the Dodgers fire Torre and replace him for the remainer of the season with Tommy. I hope for his sake he only pretends to be such a moron.
2008-08-29 21:53:53
284.   oshea2002
271 - probably right. I'm glad we don't have to deal with Marshall. I think at least early on, the Raiders defense will be better. I'm guessing the offense will be so bad that they'll wear down throughout the year. D Mac looks like the real deal, but I'm appalled at the WR's we've put around Jamarcus.

Both franchises have similar problems, Al won't die, and Bowlen won't move on from Shanahan, or at least completely strip him of any personnel say.

2008-08-29 21:56:21
285.   oshea2002
283 - You listen to the Cannons?
2008-08-29 21:56:52
286.   68elcamino427
In the heat of the pennant race ... your team tanks ... 8 games in a row gone ...

Will Torre retire?

2008-08-29 21:56:53
287.   LAT
282. Is that blue cause your sad or red cause your angry?
2008-08-29 21:58:22
288.   ryu
282 Yep.
2008-08-29 21:59:13
289.   underdog
283 - There's a reason he's called Vic the Brick. And that I don't listen to him.

284 - Indeed, Shanny needs less personnel power, though at least he's kinda figured things out as far as shying away from certain disastrous free agent signings. I like this team's makeup better than the last few years, but we'll see. Raiders definitely dodge a big one with Marshall out for that one game. Yeah, Raiders should have good running game this year, and WR's are a concern. I predict 9-7 for Denver and 7-9 for Oakland.

2008-08-29 21:59:13
290.   LogikReader
At this stage all I want is for the Rockies to miss the playoffs. If they win the NL West the way they played all year, I'll be sick to my stomach.
2008-08-29 22:00:19
291.   underdog
I think it's time for one of those closed door meetings for the Dodgers. Enough is enough.

And I'm really outta here. Have a good weekend all!

2008-08-29 22:00:33
292.   Tripon
283 He's been calling for the Dodgers to make Torre the 3rd baseman, and make Bowa the manager for the last couple of days now. This is from the same show that wouldn't ever talk about the Dodgers unless forced to, this is the same station that has a half hour devoted to the Chargers, and never seems to mention the Dodgers. Vic the Brick can go back to New York, and blast the Mets for inane reason for all I care.
2008-08-29 22:01:18
293.   whodat807
Well, this sorry Dodger team sure showed me the worth of trying to be positive and upbeat.
2008-08-29 22:02:09
294.   Xeifrank
Dodgers need two catchers to catch Johnson.
vr, Xei
2008-08-29 22:02:22
295.   Jon Weisman
286 - What would Rudy Tomjonavich do?
2008-08-29 22:02:52
296.   GMac In The 909
Fork, Dodgers. Dodgers, fork.
2008-08-29 22:03:53
297.   sporky
Is there any difference between the AFC and the NFC? Designated mauling?
2008-08-29 22:04:26
298.   sporky
287 The former. I'm watching tennis instead.
2008-08-29 22:07:50
299.   Tripon
297 The AFC team has been the tougher conference to be in for the last 5 or 6 years.
2008-08-29 22:11:49
300.   sporky
296 Spork!
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2008-08-29 22:12:14
301.   fracule
290 If the Rockies win the NL west I will be deeply saddened and ashamed. Oh, wait.
2008-08-29 22:13:08
302.   fracule
Somewhere, there's a festively plump woman, drinking a cup of ginger and lemon tea.
2008-08-29 22:13:50
303.   sporky
299 But no difference in the rules?
2008-08-29 22:16:15
304.   whodat807
This terrible stretch has convinced me that whoever replaces Ned needs to keep Martin, Kemp, Bills, and Kershaw and completely start over.
2008-08-29 22:16:42
305.   68elcamino427
Rudy is an interesting parallel.
Deposed champion - health not 100% - new team performs well below expectations after much fanfare.
2008-08-29 22:17:25
306.   fracule
304 Do not forget Manny. We need the power and professional hitting. We got nothing like him anywhere.
2008-08-29 22:20:38
307.   fanerman
2008-08-29 22:31:22
308.   Johnny Nucleo
Dodgers: 12 hits, 15 TB, 3BB, 3 runs
Arizona: 10 hits, 13 TB, 6 BB, 9 runs
2008-08-29 22:32:41
309.   Gilberto Reyes
Despite what many people have stated today, this was NOT a must win game for the following reasons.

This is still August.

We play the D-Backs 5 more times.

This is the NL West.

2008-08-29 22:36:53
310.   Linkmeister
I just looked at the box score. 12 hits, 3 runs, 15 LOB.

Will they ever get a hit with RISP again?


2008-08-29 22:40:40
311.   68elcamino427
Yeah, hope the Dodgers can win one tomorrow and get this monkey off their back. Eight in a row!
2008-08-29 22:45:43
312.   Jacob Burch
I think Toy Cannon said a few days ago that Surrender can be a key to Serenity, and I'm giving in to that. I've seen more bizarre things than the the possibility of this team coming around and taking the crown, but I'm surrending my emotional investment over it.

I'll take Bills and Kershaw's starts, Elbert's and JMac's relief appearences, and all at bats by our young guys in joy, learn to keep score with Timmerman-like precision, and note the interesting things--but this is a 'lost' team to me now.

I really do think the future looks bright baring a total NedCo overhaul, and I'm not as sour on McCourt as others, so I am optimistic about years to come. Then again, I have been for a long time, and, well...

Colts season starts soon though! Hurray.

2008-08-29 22:53:24
313.   Bilshaw
Chan Ho Park(August): 15 IP 17 H 15 R 10 ER 6.00 ERA
2008-08-29 22:58:50
314.   whodat807
312 I'm of almost exactly the same mindset, though I have my doubts about the future.

What frustrates me is that veterans are useful precisely to avoid stretches like this. What's the point of all the PVLs on this team if they can't get hits with men on base or keep the roster from feeling like they're snakebitten?

I said it earlier and reiterate it now - it's time to blow this team up. Hopefully Kim Ng or Logan White have a more effective vision for the direction this team should be heading.

2008-08-29 23:02:02
315.   Jacob Burch
314 I am, admittedly, usually err on the over-optimistic side when it comes to most things in life. I feel it helps for the vast majority of things, but the Dodgers are trying to test my patience for bitterness.
2008-08-29 23:16:53
316.   kinbote
309 That's all well and good, but Webb and Haren are no regular Joes. We'll be lucky to split in games against those two.
2008-08-29 23:22:24
317.   Gilberto Reyes
316 The Padres had no problem beating Webb and Haren earlier this week so anything is possible.
2008-08-29 23:23:23
318.   JRSarno
309 - This type of reasoning is rapidly becoming untenable.
2008-08-29 23:32:54
319.   kinbote
317 Of course you're right. But the Padres are the defending Co-Wild-Card-Playoff-Something-Or-Others! :)
2008-08-30 01:05:51
320.   Jon Weisman

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