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Vin Diagrammed
2008-09-03 16:34
by Jon Weisman

Vin Scully is the subject of a Sports Illustrated profile this week by Richard Hoffer.

* * *

Padres at Dodgers, 7:10 p.m.

Comments (328)
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2008-09-03 18:32:34
1.   Alex41592
To answer a question on the previous thread:

Since the Manny trade:

Ethier: .314/.381/.667/1.048
Kemp: .271/.290/.466/.756
Manny: .414/.500/.748/1.248

2008-09-03 18:35:47
2.   The Trolley Dodger
Great headline! I also like SI's "In Vin Veritas."

Though late for PeanutsThoughts in the previous thread, I would like to point out that I have a Snoopy tattoo.

2008-09-03 18:37:00
3.   underdog
2 As one with an Underdog tattoo, I'll have your back if anyone mocks you.

Darn, the DT Fantasy Football draft is at the same time as the start of the Dodger game. So if it's slightly quieter in here for the first few innings, you'll know why.

2008-09-03 18:38:19
4.   trainwreck
I did see the preview for Privileged last night and it looked like it could be good. Got Vikki from Freaks and Geeks in the lead.

I agree about Fringe, Jon. That was no good.

I liked True Blood, but the re-cast the best character from the pilot I saw.

2008-09-03 18:40:19
5.   trainwreck
Sweet, I got third pick.
2008-09-03 18:41:53
6.   Tripon
So how does everyone feel about Blake batting 4th tonight?
2008-09-03 18:43:06
7.   The Trolley Dodger
4 Is Fringe "no good but give a few shows" or "no good and don't bother"?
2008-09-03 18:44:02
8.   Tripon
Patrick O'Neal and Steve Lyons are promoting the Dodgers trolley.
2008-09-03 18:44:30
9.   The Trolley Dodger
3 I've only had one person ever make fun of it, and that was some Aussie in a bar in Fiji of all places. Perhaps I have been lucky. ;)
2008-09-03 18:44:35
10.   trainwreck
It's episodic, not a continuous story like Lost.

I would say it is like X-Files mixed with Bones, or what I assume Bones is like.

2008-09-03 18:44:37
11.   Alex41592
6 - He's been hot the past eight games and with a lefty on the mound it's worth a shot. If it were against a right hander Loney would be cleanup.
2008-09-03 18:46:01
12.   Jon Weisman
7 - The Fringe pilot was fine, so I wouldn't say "no good." Just didn't knock me out.

4 - I forgot about True Blood. That was fun if a bit inconsistent. I'm still watching that.

2008-09-03 18:46:45
13.   68elcamino427
"Imagine the roar"
Vin is a genius and my all time fav.

Rather than rue the day that he no longer mans the mike -
instead I savor every opportunity that I have to listen to him perform.

That's just the way I roll ...

2008-09-03 18:46:56
14.   Tripon
12 What about Life on Mars? I'm interested if only for the time travel aspect. I'm a sucker for time travel.
2008-09-03 18:48:31
15.   The Trolley Dodger
Is there a DT Fantasy Baseball league?
2008-09-03 18:49:15
16.   trainwreck
Two in fact!
2008-09-03 18:49:24
17.   68elcamino427
2008-09-03 18:50:00
18.   trainwreck
I have not seen it yet, but my friend loves the original British version. You should maybe try to get a hold of that.
2008-09-03 18:50:33
19.   The Trolley Dodger
16 Cool, I shall have to try glomming onto that next season.
2008-09-03 18:51:07
20.   underdog
5 {in Charlie Brown voice:} All I got was a rock.
Er, #8.

Ah well. 8's usually my lucky number. But not in fantasy drafting.

You'll be taking Darren McFadden first I assume? ;-)

4 Ooo, Joanna Garcia? Nice. I may have to check that one out. Or maybe I'll just rewatch my F&G and Undeclared DVDs.

2008-09-03 18:52:53
21.   trainwreck
Actually, Javon Walker and then in second hopefully Ashley Lelie will be there.
2008-09-03 18:54:38
22.   underdog
21 Sounds like a plan!

You'll be pleased to know I'm taking a stand and will not draft LJohnson even if he falls to me in the 1st.

2008-09-03 18:56:40
23.   Tripon
Raiders go 0-16. Al Davis dies in a moat. In his will, he writes that John Madden is the new owner of the Raiders.
2008-09-03 18:56:50
24.   whodat807
I'm very excited for this draft. I'm 100% prepared to take it entirely too seriously.
2008-09-03 18:58:04
25.   trainwreck
Madden is on the board of old Raider trustees that may take over the team if Al's wife and son do not want it.
2008-09-03 19:02:30
26.   Neal Pollack
Jon's piece on Vinnie was better.
2008-09-03 19:03:32
27.   Neal Pollack
Here's my latest LA City Beat sports column, for what it's worth...

2008-09-03 19:07:28
28.   trainwreck
What a terrible coach. My AYSO coaches would not stand for that behavior.
2008-09-03 19:15:07
29.   Neal Pollack
Yeah, it's pretty much been a disaster.
2008-09-03 19:18:26
30.   thinkblue88
Did you, or anyone else for that matter, ever watch Journeyman?
2008-09-03 19:20:53
31.   Tripon
30 Parts of a couple ep due to waiting for Chuck. Didn't care for it, thought they used the wrong kind of protagonist for the show. Should have used a young guy or girl who would have the time of his life digging the 70's. Almost make it into a stoner's parody.
2008-09-03 19:21:46
32.   LogikReader
From the SI article:

In any case, he's not a baseball fan particularly and doesn't miss the games. He's sat in the stands just once...

This continues to be one of the stranger things about Vin. I'm sure Vin has a passion for the game, but he doesn't seem to love it enough to want to be a part of it outside his domain of broadcasting. He also disassociates himself from the players, which isn't such a bad thing, but it's fascinating.

2008-09-03 19:22:43
33.   Tripon
BTW, game started. Martin is on base at first, one out, with Manny at the plate.
2008-09-03 19:24:04
34.   Bob Timmermann
2008-09-03 19:25:37
35.   thinkblue88
31. yeah, i thought the dude didnt really fit in for the main role. i thought it was okay. they cancelled it tho, i'm pretty sure....haha, yeah i started to watch because it was before chuck.
2008-09-03 19:27:26
36.   Tripon
Padres Pitcher escapes unscathed at the top of the first.
2008-09-03 19:32:57
37.   larry slimfast
I think it would be kinda fun to watch Manny climb that home run list a few years longer.
2008-09-03 19:35:00
38.   MonkeyBlue
Would be nice if Dewitt can turn that DP.
2008-09-03 19:35:57
39.   Gagne55
2008-09-03 19:36:08
40.   MonkeyBlue
Heh, turned that DP! Thank you rally killing bard.
2008-09-03 19:39:28
41.   Icaros
I enjoyed Journeyman, despite its flaws. I have lowered expectations for network television as it is. But I'm a sucker for time travel, and it was interesting to see the on-location stuff in SF.

Moon Bloodgood is also painfully beautiful.

2008-09-03 19:46:49
42.   Bob Timmermann
I liked Journeyman but was disappointed that Rudy Seanez didn't get the title role.
2008-09-03 19:49:26
43.   Bob Timmermann
The Rally Killing Bard wrote sonnets that had rhyme schemes of AAAAAABBBBCCC.
2008-09-03 19:53:38
44.   Bob Hendley
Angel en fuego.
2008-09-03 19:55:43
45.   Gagne55
43 And if you count the syllobols per line you'll see it's a pattern of 6-4-3.
2008-09-03 19:56:10
46.   caseybarker
I heard Javon Walker had a crappy preseason, and the Raiders' passing game did not produce much. Just saying...

And are you sure McFadden will be the full-time starter?

2008-09-03 19:56:43
47.   Gagne55
Nevermind. I just counted the A's B's and C's in Bob's post. Bob is funny.
2008-09-03 19:57:28
48.   Icaros

You spelled syllables like Rick Monday would pronounce it, if he understood the concept of syllables.

2008-09-03 20:03:39
49.   MonkeyBlue
Yessh can't even break the pitch piggy bank.
2008-09-03 20:04:03
50.   Gagne55
I went to take the pitch
for I was looking to get rich
I had to scratch that itch
For I was in the ditch
cause in the clutch I'd twitch
But soon I'd find my nitch
I pitch came and I swing
thinking I'm the king
but in reaching for the ring
'twas bitter, it did sting
I guess it's just my way
no runs for us today
six-four-three, another double play
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2008-09-03 20:04:10
51.   Gen3Blue
Holy cow---on that force at the plate--the catcher was nowhere near the plate!!!!!!!!!
2008-09-03 20:04:24
52.   das411
Wow, why so quiet in here? Is there something massively [Rule 5]-ical going on?
2008-09-03 20:05:23
53.   Gagne55
48 When I don't know how to spell thing I just spell them phoeneticly.
2008-09-03 20:06:03
54.   MonkeyBlue
52. I watch the Republican convention.
2008-09-03 20:06:41
55.   Tripon
54 Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're not supposed to mention it!
2008-09-03 20:07:17
56.   Gen3Blue
Did anyone see that play. Blake lined to the pitcher who threw it to the catcher who was about three feet in front of the plate and it was called a force!! I suppose I would like it if it went for the Dodgers.
2008-09-03 20:07:40
57.   Gagne55
Way gone. And there goes the lead. :(
2008-09-03 20:07:46
58.   MonkeyBlue
55. May I ask why? ;)
2008-09-03 20:08:10
59.   MonkeyBlue
57. Wasn't much of a lead to begin with!
2008-09-03 20:08:12
60.   Gen3Blue
Uh-oh, does this mean the breaks have turned around?
2008-09-03 20:08:19
61.   Andrew Shimmin
58- Have you met D4P?
2008-09-03 20:08:19
62.   Gagne55
56 I didn't notice where the catcher was.
2008-09-03 20:09:40
63.   MonkeyBlue
61. Nope.
2008-09-03 20:09:46
64.   Gagne55
59 The Dodgers are getting shut down by a guy with a 5.33 era in AAA! Ok, they've had a ton of baserunners, but only one run.
2008-09-03 20:10:53
65.   Andrew Shimmin
63- Me neither. I'm still not totally convinced he isn't one of Bob's sockpuppets. Like xeifrank.
2008-09-03 20:12:09
66.   Gagne55
Actually the Dodgers have only had 5 baserunners. It just feels like more because LeBlanc has made so many pitches.
2008-09-03 20:12:37
67.   Bob Hendley
Sockpuppets are big in Mexico.
2008-09-03 20:13:13
68.   Jon Weisman
If anyone cares, Angels have bases loaded, ninth inning, two out, down 9-6.
2008-09-03 20:14:01
69.   Gen3Blue
59,64 After the way things went against the Dodgers(as documented by their offensive stats by Jon) I was not surprised that all the breaks went their way until last inning.
Now all bets are off.
2008-09-03 20:14:18
70.   Tripon
Who cares about the Angels? They don't have a meaningful game until Oct.
2008-09-03 20:15:04
71.   Bob Hendley
67 - I mean they are popular.
2008-09-03 20:15:04
72.   trainwreck
A few of us were drafting and now that is over.
2008-09-03 20:15:11
73.   Gen3Blue
I'm afraid it is all over for this streak.
2008-09-03 20:16:08
74.   MonkeyBlue
Bad Hiro is showing up tonight.
2008-09-03 20:16:11
75.   Tripon
Kuroda's needs to pitch better with men on base.
2008-09-03 20:16:48
76.   Gagne55
Well this one is looking like a disaster so far.
2008-09-03 20:17:54
77.   I Love LA
Dude Kuroda sucks..please get him out of there. This game is as good as over..I don't see any offense from us. 2.5 games back, count on Haren and Webb beating us. The pessimist in me say we are done after this weekend.
2008-09-03 20:18:02
78.   whodat807
Oh Hiro.
2008-09-03 20:18:24
79.   underdog
Oh for the love of...

Kuroda gives up a first ML hit to the pitcher now? I'm glad I rushed back from the DT Fantasy Football draft in time to see this inning.

2008-09-03 20:18:32
80.   Gagne55
Hit by the pitcher. Kuroda, why?
2008-09-03 20:19:11
81.   underdog
77 Are you trying to see how many overreactions you can cram into a single paragraph?

I agree that Kuroda is stinking tonight, though. After that you're on your own.

2008-09-03 20:19:20
82.   Gagne55
77 Well I suppose that is one way to look at things.
2008-09-03 20:19:31
83.   I Love LA
I hate Kuroda and St. Louis so much right now.
2008-09-03 20:19:57
84.   Bilshaw
The statistics bear out that observation: Opponents are batting .212 against Kuroda with the bases empty and .300 with runners on base. He either needs to work on his stuff out of the stretch or concentrate less on the surrounding traffic and more on the catcher's mitt. (ESPN- Jerry Crasnick)
2008-09-03 20:20:15
85.   underdog
77 Btw, did you miss the Dodgers-DBacks series last weekend? How'd we fare vs Haren and Webb in that one? Just sayin'.
2008-09-03 20:20:44
86.   jasonungar07
Stoked Coletti will be back next year. We got that goin for us.
2008-09-03 20:21:26
87.   I Love LA
Underdog - What are the odds that Webb and Haren don't come into Chavez Ravine to get revenge? I know it is negative but this team has lead me on WAY too many times this year.
2008-09-03 20:21:34
88.   Bob Hendley
83 - But you do love LA still, right?
2008-09-03 20:22:04
89.   Gagne55
69 pitches in three innings and only one run.
2008-09-03 20:22:37
90.   I Love LA
Today is just a bad day. First St. Louis started my bad day, then Kuroda is about to finish it.
2008-09-03 20:22:47
91.   Bilshaw
Let's get more run plz.
2008-09-03 20:22:56
92.   Bob Timmermann
The new version of the Game of Life no longer has spaces marked "Revenge!"

I hate that.

2008-09-03 20:23:11
93.   I Love LA
Bob - If I didn't I wouldn't be this worked up.
2008-09-03 20:23:15
94.   underdog
87 I understand the pain and wanting to p rotect yourself, believe me, but I still think you're overreacting. Too many people gave up on this team last week. There's a lot of baseball left and they're very streaky.

I also think it'd be silly to give up on THIS game, for that matter.

2008-09-03 20:24:41
95.   Bob Hendley
90 - You where your heart on your sleeve, as it were. Come on Bums, give our boy (and us) something to be happy about.
2008-09-03 20:24:42
96.   Tripon
86 The main assumption that people are making there is that McCourt is too cheap to fire Coletti and eat his contract. Never mind that he did just that with Jim Tracy, DePo, and Grady Little. Ned Coletti isn't making more money than any of those guys.

And Blake DeWitt ties it up.

Can I say he's better than Andy LaRoche yet?

2008-09-03 20:24:42
97.   Bob Timmermann
That didn't take long.
2008-09-03 20:24:42
98.   Icaros
Hell yeah, Blake.
2008-09-03 20:24:43
99.   Gagne55
2008-09-03 20:25:04
100.   Bilshaw
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2008-09-03 20:25:08
101.   68elcamino427
Is this the new Blake DeWitt?
2008-09-03 20:25:19
102.   underdog
AS I was saying. :-)


2008-09-03 20:25:41
103.   I Love LA
I need to remain pessimistic...I believe in jinx and I am way too superstitious. Sorry guys......
2008-09-03 20:25:43
104.   whodat807
I'm a fan of this Blake DeWitt fellow.
2008-09-03 20:25:54
105.   Gagne55
Back to Back!
2008-09-03 20:26:08
106.   Gen3Blue
Tied! Why is there no outrage one that horrendous cal ealier.


2008-09-03 20:26:09
107.   Tripon
2008-09-03 20:26:18
108.   Bilshaw
2008-09-03 20:26:21
109.   68elcamino427
Berroa power!
2008-09-03 20:26:21
110.   I Love LA
Did Angel Berroa just hit a HR???? I didn't even know he knew how to do that.
2008-09-03 20:26:23
111.   Bob Timmermann
The Grabowksi Principle is in play.
2008-09-03 20:26:24
112.   thinkblue88
2008-09-03 20:26:45
113.   Tripon
Angel Berroa gets a curtain call. Now I seen everything.
2008-09-03 20:26:48
114.   whodat807
2008-09-03 20:26:52
115.   underdog
LOL. Berroa. BERROA!
2008-09-03 20:27:11
116.   Bob Hendley
Angel en fuego.
2008-09-03 20:27:23
117.   Gen3Blue
On-hell!!! Baby!
2008-09-03 20:27:28
118.   I Love LA
By no means am I taking credit...but if I wasn't overreacting who would have thought this would happen so fast? Whatever, Kuroda will still screw it up and Haren and Webb will declare judgment day on us.
2008-09-03 20:27:38
119.   silverwidow
Nice job, On Hell.
2008-09-03 20:28:15
120.   underdog
103 Hey, whatever works. Heh.

I knew this Padres pitcher was living in a tree, as they say. As Vin said, one 3 ball count after another and eventually he's gonna get hurt.

2008-09-03 20:28:30
121.   whodat807
This inning has been quite the rollercoaster.
2008-09-03 20:29:22
122.   I Love LA
I am suprise I have no suffer any heart attack yet knock on wood
2008-09-03 20:29:35
123.   thinkblue88
speed demon andre! haha!
2008-09-03 20:29:36
124.   MonkeyBlue
Ethier been tearing it up!
2008-09-03 20:29:38
125.   68elcamino427
2008-09-03 20:29:49
126.   Gagne55
Ethier has been taking some risks on the basepaths lately.
2008-09-03 20:30:17
127.   underdog
Now he gets the deferred cycle!

Oh, it doesn't work that way? Drat.

Nice hustle, Dre.

2008-09-03 20:30:36
128.   whodat807
Ethier making up for grounding out last night.
2008-09-03 20:30:41
129.   jasonungar07
96 While GM Ned Colletti is said to have absorbed the abuse of what colleagues describe as McCourt's "hair trigger'' managing style, sources indicate that McCourt has told friends he is sticking with his GM beyond this season whether or not the Dodgers overcome the first-place Arizona Diamondbacks to steal the winnable West.

2008-09-03 20:30:47
130.   Gagne55
Another IBB for Manny.
2008-09-03 20:31:08
131.   MonkeyBlue
Come Blake! a hit would be nices!
2008-09-03 20:31:15
132.   Gen3Blue
As much as I like Casey, should he really be behind Manny?
2008-09-03 20:31:41
133.   larry slimfast
MLB should make the intentional walk a one pitch thing.
2008-09-03 20:31:43
134.   underdog
This must be how Giants fans felt with Barry Bonds at his peak.

And the pitcher who should be a Mad Men character is now warming up in the 'pen, Dirk Hayhurst.

2008-09-03 20:32:51
135.   MonkeyBlue
Break! for the Dodgers!
2008-09-03 20:32:57
136.   trainwreck
I am watching Mater Dei vs Carson in high school football.

I guess to scout the future Trojans.

2008-09-03 20:33:11
137.   68elcamino427
Tonight the answer is YES!
2008-09-03 20:33:25
138.   Bilshaw
Los Angeles: 9 IBB 113 AB
2008-09-03 20:33:30
139.   Gagne55
133 I've seen wild pitches on IBBs before. Also Miguel Cabrerra once singled during an IBB. Gotta make 'em execute for four pitches.
2008-09-03 20:34:08
140.   Tripon
129 Its Heyman, who likes to take pot shots at the Dodgers for whatever reason. You'll notice that none of the local papers are reporting that. I'd trust the local guys over a guy like Heyman who a New York writer anyway. And again, his main arguement is that McCourts too cheap to fire Coletti when he did it with DePo(when he had 3 years on his contract when he was fired!?), Jim Tracy, and Grady Little.
2008-09-03 20:36:52
141.   I Love LA
Oh Gosh now here comes Kuroda to give it all back.
2008-09-03 20:36:53
142.   Tripon
History was made at Tropicana Field on Wednesday night, when instant replay was used for the first time in Major League history. The play in question was a home run hit by Alex Rodriguez in the ninth inning of the Rays-Yankees contest.

Whoever got Rays-Yankees put a star next to your name.

2008-09-03 20:36:55
143.   Gen3Blue
137 You're right--the answer is yes.
2008-09-03 20:37:36
144.   Bob Timmermann
2008-09-03 20:38:21
145.   Gagne55
142 Yeah, the Griddle is updated on the sidebar
2008-09-03 20:39:01
146.   natepurcell
How do the defensive metrics rate Berroa's term with the Dodgers so far?
2008-09-03 20:39:14
147.   Tripon
144 145 Yeah, I look foolish at the moment.
2008-09-03 20:41:03
148.   scooplew
For the 4th inning of a game with 23 games still remaining this season, and us riding a four-game winning streak and being only 2 games out at 7:10 p.m., I sure have quietly read a lot of pessimism and disgust tonight, way too early, on this site.
2008-09-03 20:41:35
149.   Icaros
Does Nomar have a specific injury going on right now?
2008-09-03 20:42:55
150.   natepurcell
Is sucking" a specific enough injury?
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2008-09-03 20:43:59
151.   Icaros

Depends, are you referring to a specific part of the body?

2008-09-03 20:44:11
152.   larry slimfast
149 a not-hitting bat.
2008-09-03 20:44:18
153.   underdog
149 Brittle-itis?


I hope Kuroda is on a very short leash tonight, with all the pitchers in the pen.

2008-09-03 20:45:11
154.   underdog
That's the ol' pepper boy!
2008-09-03 20:45:19
155.   68elcamino427
Kuroda - Hot Wheels Power!
2008-09-03 20:45:35
156.   Gen3Blue
All-right, Dueces seem to work for Vin .
And the D's
2008-09-03 20:46:40
157.   Icaros
I hope Kuroda is on a very short leash tonight, with all the pitchers in the pen.

You mean something that says "leather daddy?"

2008-09-03 20:46:46
158.   Bob Timmermann
I think Nomar would state that he's not healthy enough to contribute much.
2008-09-03 20:46:48
159.   Tripon
152 I actually thought it was the errors and poor fielding that did Nomar in.
2008-09-03 20:47:43
160.   Tripon
153 And an off day tomorrow. We won't see McDonald or Elbert though, this game seems more like Wade, and then Broxton.
2008-09-03 20:48:06
161.   Icaros

I'm picturing the guy wheeling an oxygen tank out there.

2008-09-03 20:50:02
162.   Gen3Blue
Come on On-Hell. darn.
2008-09-03 20:53:08
163.   bhsportsguy
thanks to Jacob burch, I am doing my first on-site post. He called Blake's he, he did not call angel's.
2008-09-03 20:54:06
164.   Bob Timmermann
You can major in basket weaving at Princeton?
2008-09-03 20:54:14
165.   twerp

Mike Marshall=General Soreness

Nomar=General Hospital

2008-09-03 20:54:47
166.   I Love LA
Here comes Kuroda with the rally for the Padres.
2008-09-03 20:55:19
167.   Tripon
Scott Procter sighting. There is a Scott Procter sighting.
2008-09-03 20:56:13
168.   MonkeyBlue
Ok Kuroda is done.
2008-09-03 20:56:33
169.   Tripon
Josh Bard singles to make it 5-4 Dodgers. Joe Torre pulls Kuroda for Procter.
2008-09-03 20:56:52
170.   68elcamino427
And here comes Joe - Vin
2008-09-03 20:57:49
171.   Gen3Blue
This is exactly where Manny looks good on a fantasy team, but the jury is out on real baseball.
2008-09-03 20:58:12
172.   I Love LA
We have a good shot at blowing this game all because of Kuroda and obviously our bullpen isn't very trustworthy.
2008-09-03 20:59:19
173.   bhsportsguy
thanks to Jacob burch, I am doing my first on-site post. He called Blake's he, he did not call angel's.
2008-09-03 20:59:31
174.   68elcamino427
Proctor for reals - wow
2008-09-03 21:00:22
175.   Marty
I suspect Heyman writes about the Dodgers alot because he is from here. He worked at the Daily Breeze when I was there.
2008-09-03 21:01:16
176.   oshea2002
Proctor? How is that not trying to lose?
2008-09-03 21:01:32
177.   whodat807
You'd think Torre would want to let Proctor work his way back in during low-leverage situations instead of throwing him right into the fire.

And as far as the pitching goes, for a "Bad Hiroki" outing, this wasn't that bad.

2008-09-03 21:02:07
178.   Jon Weisman
172 - I took a break for dinner, and am now catching up. I appreciate your reverse enthusiasm, but it's time to chill and stop repeating yourself.
2008-09-03 21:02:53
179.   Tripon
Procter's throwing 94. Not hitting the plate all that much, but he's throwing hard.
2008-09-03 21:04:07
180.   Tripon
Whoa, Elbert's getting called in to replace Procter. This is amazing.
2008-09-03 21:04:15
181.   I Love LA
What did I say about our bullpen.....we are doing the same thing St. louis is doing.
2008-09-03 21:04:28
182.   twerp
Bob, Tennesseean beat writer Bryan Mullen, in his UT-UCLA preview, called Pasadena "this quaint suburb" in the first three words of his game preview story.

Is he on notice? Should he change his doorlocks? What? Surely this won't pass.

2008-09-03 21:04:38
183.   Icaros
Big Spot Scott (Elbert)!
2008-09-03 21:05:00
184.   Neal Pollack
No real shame in walking Brian Giles, but I was still surprised to see Proctor.
2008-09-03 21:05:31
185.   Tripon
181 Dude, we haven't given up the lead yet. Just enjoy the game.
2008-09-03 21:05:38
186.   Gen3Blue
What the hell are we trying to do with Procter in there. And now Elbert!! Unprepared, but with potential. Not the best time.
2008-09-03 21:06:11
187.   Tripon
182 Pasadena isn't a suburb? ;P
2008-09-03 21:07:10
188.   Tripon
Well, that wasn't clean at all, but I'll take it.
2008-09-03 21:07:16
189.   I Love LA
It is hard for me to enjoy the game...we were up 8-0 last night and I still couldn't enjoy it. When it was 8-4 I was itching to yell.
2008-09-03 21:07:17
190.   68elcamino427
work his way back in

I echo your thoughts. Torre's attachment to Proctor seems irrational.

2008-09-03 21:07:56
191.   I Love LA
OMG did we ever get lucky there. 3 more innings of this.....we better score more runs if we want to win.
2008-09-03 21:08:17
192.   whodat807
BERROA! Nice recovery!
2008-09-03 21:09:09
193.   Bob Timmermann
Pasadena is a suburb, but it's not quaint.

Knoxville has about 40,000 more people than Pasadena.

But Pasadena has never hosted a World's Fair. And it doesn't have a Sunsphere.

2008-09-03 21:09:33
194.   underdog
I thought that was fine. Bring Proctor in for a couple of batters, he's on a short leash obviously, pull him for Elbert vs. the switch hitter who is much worse from the right. Elbert got lucky that Berroa speared that one and got the runner but anyway I thought that was all fine. I'm sure we'll see Wade soon enough.
2008-09-03 21:10:56
195.   Bob Timmermann
I'm still amazed that in September, we'd be hoping to see Cory Wade pitch for the Dodgers.

And I didn't know Cory Wade was in the organization until he got called up. But I'm not a prospect expert.

2008-09-03 21:11:08
196.   underdog
191 meet 178 .

Or not.

Huh, an Elbert at bat! That'll be a rare occurrence. Until next season, when he's a starter.

2008-09-03 21:11:55
197.   Icaros
Does Torre know that double-switching is an option? Am I just not paying attention when he does it?
2008-09-03 21:11:59
198.   68elcamino427
GG making consistent hard contact with the bat.
2008-09-03 21:12:43
199.   Marty
It's interesting reading I Love LA's angst. I haven't had that much passion as a baseball fan since I was very young, like age 8 - 13. That was when I thought the Dodgers (and USC) were the best team no matter their actual record. The closest to that I've come since was the 80's Lakers, especially when they were playing the Celtics. Now that I'm much older, a crucial loss by the home team does not cause me to lose sleep.
2008-09-03 21:12:58
200.   Bob Timmermann
A double switch would have required Berroa or DeWitt to be taken out and the replacements for those guys are ... ????
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2008-09-03 21:13:27
201.   Icaros

I saw him pitch three shutout innings in Jacksonville in April and didn't even recognize him when he was called up.

2008-09-03 21:13:42
202.   sporky
200 Hu else would there be?
2008-09-03 21:13:51
203.   Icaros


2008-09-03 21:13:56
204.   Jon Weisman
200 - Hu for Berroa, but I assume Torre doesn't see it that way.
2008-09-03 21:14:23
205.   Bob Timmermann
I'm far more disturbed by the fact that the Mets lead the NL East by three games now.

The Mets making the playoffs will make me a very sad person. I don't want to see Fernando Tatis in the postseason.

2008-09-03 21:15:27
206.   overkill94
191 I can just picture the ulcer developing in your stomach right now. Chill bro, you're not going to see the best relievers in the 6th inning of a game.
2008-09-03 21:16:02
207.   MonkeyBlue
205. Come back player of the year!
2008-09-03 21:16:32
208.   68elcamino427
I haven't had that much passion as a baseball fan since I was very young

yeah that's me.

Fight On!

2008-09-03 21:17:17
209.   Bob Timmermann
So is Fernando Tatis going to beat out Chan Ho Park for Comeback Player of the Year?

That's not ironic.

It's just weird.

2008-09-03 21:17:36
210.   Marty
I think Vin has been especially great this year. Does he have an email address? I'd love to send him a thank you.
2008-09-03 21:18:49
211.   underdog
205 If miracles happen and the Dodgers make the playoffs, I wouldn't mind them facing the Mets, though. Speaking of "revenge"... On the other hand, losing another playoff series to the Mets would make me a sad panda.
2008-09-03 21:19:08
212.   I Love LA
Marty - I take every Dodgers/Lakers loss personally. You guys might not like it around here when that happens...I can vent forever. I have been doing this ever since I was a kid.
2008-09-03 21:20:29
213.   Bob Timmermann
Apparently "I Love LA" vents like Kilauea. Or Vesuvius.
2008-09-03 21:20:58
214.   Icaros
How about writing venting posts on a sheet of paper and saving the normal ones for DT?
2008-09-03 21:21:18
215.   I Love LA
Who is that Bob?
2008-09-03 21:21:46
216.   I Love LA
Icaros - I can't bro
2008-09-03 21:22:17
217.   Marty
212 Don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining. I admire the style actually. I was just commenting that I can't do that anymore.
2008-09-03 21:22:38
218.   underdog
"I can vent forever"...


2008-09-03 21:23:27
219.   MonkeyBlue
209. The Media don't acknowledge short starts/relievers.
2008-09-03 21:24:01
220.   Marty
If the Dodgers make the playoffs, I don't care if they have to play the 1927 Yankees.
2008-09-03 21:24:33
221.   sporky
216 Please, sir.
2008-09-03 21:24:54
222.   Icaros

I think they'd do well against the '27 Yankees today. Grab a shovel.

2008-09-03 21:24:56
223.   Bob Timmermann
Tonight's first place winner in correct subject-verb agreement!
2008-09-03 21:25:58
224.   trainwreck
That would be so easy; they all got to be dead by now.
2008-09-03 21:27:17
225.   Bob Hendley
223 - Even if it isn't done on purpose? ;)
2008-09-03 21:28:01
226.   Icaros
Torre called the Cory Hotline.
2008-09-03 21:29:00
227.   underdog
Vin was proven correct with his questioning of why Loney was holding the runner Kouzmanoff.
2008-09-03 21:29:14
228.   I Love LA
Oh crap feels like tie game is about to happen
2008-09-03 21:30:02
229.   68elcamino427
It's nervous time
2008-09-03 21:30:35
230.   Bob Hendley
Thanks for the alert.
2008-09-03 21:30:56
231.   Gen3Blue
Vin, your so right.

And come to think of it, if you needed to win a game would your most reliable pitchers be Procter, and Elbert?

2008-09-03 21:31:13
232.   I Love LA
Oh man can I survive 2 more innings??
2008-09-03 21:31:20
233.   68elcamino427
Wade does the job. That was fun.
2008-09-03 21:32:48
234.   trainwreck
I think you need Yoda.
2008-09-03 21:33:10
235.   Jon Weisman
232 - I'm sorry, but this is just too much. You're worried. I get it.
2008-09-03 21:34:24
236.   I Love LA
If its too much you can feel free to ignore. I have the right to vent and write as I feel. I don't complain about you do I?
2008-09-03 21:34:59
237.   Bob Hendley
232 - Me thinks yes, as you seem to have survived the 8 loss streak (though I am guessing that all of your furniture is in pieces).
2008-09-03 21:35:48
238.   Tripon
Casey Blake is a cleanup hitter.
2008-09-03 21:35:53
239.   68elcamino427
Casey at the bat with the Home Run!
2008-09-03 21:35:55
240.   I Love LA
235 - This is about the Dodgers so I can express my feelings about the Dodgers as I please....when you make your own website or forum then feel free to tell others how to write...

As I write that Thank You Loney...This is about the Dodgers and not you 235.

2008-09-03 21:35:58
241.   whodat807
Mighty Casey hits it out!
2008-09-03 21:36:28
242.   KG16
234 - I know a guy...

wow, the Dodgers seem to be hitting a lot of home runs lately. that's kind of different. and, you know, nice.

2008-09-03 21:36:29
243.   underdog
The Beard loves LA! And hitting clean-up, apparently.
2008-09-03 21:36:40
244.   Andrew Shimmin
240- Are you kidding, or do you really not recognize the site proprietor's name?
2008-09-03 21:36:52
245.   whodat807
240 Are you like some sort of internet performance artist?
2008-09-03 21:36:53
246.   I Love LA
237 - Actually I took it real hard and I yelled in front of the TV a lot..posted here a few times.
2008-09-03 21:37:15
247.   Tripon
240 ...Its Jon Website.
2008-09-03 21:37:23
248.   Icaros

You've made a huge mistake.

2008-09-03 21:37:28
249.   sporky
Isn't this bordering on a rule 8 violation?
2008-09-03 21:37:39
250.   underdog
244 I'm sorry, it's wrong, but I just had the biggest chuckle of the evening so far.
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2008-09-03 21:37:39
251.   I Love LA
244 - Please explain?
2008-09-03 21:37:48
252.   Bob Hendley
A mole!
2008-09-03 21:38:03
253.   sporky
I actually lol-ed after reading 240
2008-09-03 21:38:10
254.   KG16
I should be doing something productive, but now I just want to hit command-R over and over again.
2008-09-03 21:38:25
255.   I Love LA
Can someone explain?
2008-09-03 21:38:49
256.   underdog
245 It's kind of ingenious if so.

If not, it's kind of.. un-genius.

One more run guys and then we can all breathe easier! Well, almost all of us.

2008-09-03 21:39:45
257.   I Love LA
At least our offense is back.....I still cannot forgive St. Louis.
2008-09-03 21:39:59
258.   Jon Weisman
240 - Welcome! My name is Jon Weisman, and I am the founder and operator of Dodger Thoughts, the site you are currently visiting. The rules for commenting on this site can be found at the bottom of the sidebar on the right-hand side of the site. Thanks in advance for reading and following those guidelines.
2008-09-03 21:40:01
259.   sporky
255 Look at the byline of the blog entries.
2008-09-03 21:40:18
260.   trainwreck
Okay, maybe you do not need Yoda. You might be on it too hard.
2008-09-03 21:40:45
261.   underdog
255 Sigh. Okay, I'll try. This is Jon Weisman's web blog. He invites us all to comment here, but does moderate him. That's him you were talking to. He uses the handle "Jon Weisman". Also there are some rules in the lower right hand side that he would like us to abide by, so scroll all the way down and check those out. And then, dude, abide.
2008-09-03 21:40:50
262.   Jon Weisman
253 - So did I.
2008-09-03 21:40:57
263.   whodat807
256 I'm telling you, he could be some kind of cutting edge internet stand up comic. I'm on the edge of my seat to see where he goes next.
2008-09-03 21:41:06
264.   Some Guy in San Diego
For 240.
One of the reasons this site has become such an enjoyable community for some Dodger fans is the respect for guidelines set up by the guy who runs it.
We like the tone that has been set and fully intend to keep it that way. If it's not for you, feel free to move on. It is a free country and you have the freedom to express yourself... but people who run websites have the right to moderate them.
Go Blue!
2008-09-03 21:41:25
265.   KG16
262 - ditto
2008-09-03 21:42:08
266.   underdog
258 Ah hah! How do we know you're the real Jon Weisman? You could be a masked imposter! A very clever imposter. I would like to hear the secret password first before I am satisfied.
2008-09-03 21:42:14
267.   I Love LA
258 - In that site. Love it.
2008-09-03 21:43:49
268.   I Love LA
Thanks guys...I bet you all love me already. Ah Crap....
2008-09-03 21:44:32
269.   Andrew Shimmin
Remember that time somebody registered the screen name "Dodger Thoughts" ? That was awesome.
2008-09-03 21:44:34
270.   underdog
I would love to see a PH other than Mark Sweeney tonight. That and a win would make this evening a success.
2008-09-03 21:44:38
271.   Icaros

I'm thinking of the Wade Boggs visits Cheers episode.

2008-09-03 21:45:02
272.   larry slimfast
258 should get it's very own special link... along with 240
2008-09-03 21:45:03
273.   Bob Hendley
268 - Well, I do hate the Cards.
2008-09-03 21:45:47
274.   Some Guy in San Diego
btw-this isn't a pile-on I Love LA.. It's just pointing out that many of the people who comment here are tired of the bombastic fanatic stuff that's found in other forums. The conversation here is a running one that has gone on more than 4 years now (feel free to give exact years folks). I don't post much but greatly enjoy the perspective, knowledge and humor of the posters and would like it to remain a bastion of intelligence and sanity in Dodger Fandom.
2008-09-03 21:45:52
275.   Jon Weisman
269 - LOL
2008-09-03 21:46:02
276.   underdog
268 Don't feel too bad, you've actually given many of us a great deal of pleasure tonight.

I've already forgotten that I've drafted two more RBs than I needed in our fantasy draft.

2008-09-03 21:46:14
277.   Icaros
If I Love LA's comments are legit, then he just totally destroyed Steve for the title of Greatest Dodger Thoughts Debut Ever.
2008-09-03 21:46:26
278.   Jon Weisman
267 - Thanks!
2008-09-03 21:46:59
279.   Gen3Blue
I've been amused by the recent dialogue, but the Dodgers are making me nervous as usual. I think this is the best use of this site. Jon's rules are about the best way to handle anxiety.
2008-09-03 21:47:03
280.   sporky
... the Angel Berroa what?
2008-09-03 21:48:00
281.   Bob Timmermann
The Angel Berroa Salsa and Marimba Band and Marching and Chowder Society
2008-09-03 21:48:27
282.   underdog
271 The only episode that Ken Levine appears in, I believe.

We also would've accepted "Danica McKellar."

2008-09-03 21:49:09
283.   68elcamino427
Bell's actions remind me of Mike Fetters
2008-09-03 21:49:43
284.   whodat807
276 This is probably not the forum for this sort of thing, underdog, but I'd like to express interest in a few of your RBs!
2008-09-03 21:50:17
285.   underdog
Broxton vs the Pads in the 9th and hopefully our frayed nerves won't become even more frayed.
2008-09-03 21:50:51
286.   I Love LA
277 - Thats nice to be known for something I guess?
2008-09-03 21:51:04
287.   Icaros

Underdog:running backs

2008-09-03 21:51:30
288.   I Love LA
276 - Thanks...I am about to have my fantasy draft too and I want to hear about your RBs too LOL.
2008-09-03 21:51:31
289.   whodat807
Groundout notwithstanding, Berroa sure has picked a great time to pick up his play.
2008-09-03 21:51:36
290.   Gen3Blue
Where did our offense go. And now Sweeney?
I guess Joe knows this inning's over.
2008-09-03 21:51:41
291.   KG16
277 - when was Steve's debut here?
2008-09-03 21:51:51
292.   underdog
284 Oh was that your trade proposal? I just got that. It's a bit crazy, man, I ain't trading Marshawn Lynch. :-) But I'm willing to let go of another guy - maybe a man for man trade. I'll counterpropose something.

Sigh, and here's Sweeney again.

2008-09-03 21:52:35
293.   Bob Hendley
RBs? I thought underdog was a Broncs fan.
2008-09-03 21:53:14
294.   I Love LA
Lets see what kind of scare Broxton gives me here.
2008-09-03 21:53:23
295.   underdog
287 Hah hah. Yeah, but at least most of mine are good -- so far. And not injured -- so far.

Okay, it's nailbiting time. Hang on to your hats (or cats, whichever's closer).

2008-09-03 21:54:17
296.   trainwreck
I have one good RB and then I just threw darts on a board.
2008-09-03 21:55:00
297.   Icaros

Pre-Toaster. Sometime in '04, I think. He started Fire Jim Tracy around that time. He was definitely the forerunner of a desire many of us eventually came to share.

2008-09-03 21:55:17
298.   whodat807
292 You don't understand. I went to school with Marshawn. He was my year. I even had classes with him. I must have him. GIVE HIM TO ME

/playing it cool

2008-09-03 21:56:28
Hey guys, After "I Love LA's" debut seems like as good a time as any, I've been reading through the comments and checking this site on a consistent basis for most of the season, really appreciate the content and the way the dialogue goes within the comments. I'll probably start to comment from time to time... btw this game's comments were priceless. lets go Brox!
2008-09-03 21:57:03
300.   KG16
297 - yeah, i actually found this place though Fire Jim Tracy. he was something, though.
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2008-09-03 21:57:29
301.   LogikReader
underdog, I don't suppose you can trade across leagues, can you? :)
2008-09-03 21:58:12
302.   Bob Hendley
Wonder if we will see a Headley Lamar/Mongo matchup?
2008-09-03 21:59:14
303.   MonkeyBlue
Nices! back to .500
2008-09-03 21:59:23
304.   68elcamino427
The Closer - Broxton!
2008-09-03 21:59:27
305.   I Love LA
Now I can sleep tonight...thanks for putting up with me guys.
2008-09-03 21:59:45
306.   whodat807
Takashi Broxton!
2008-09-03 21:59:51
307.   Gen3Blue
Blake DeWitt looks rather good at second!
2008-09-03 21:59:53
308.   Bob Timmermann
First Dodgers sweep against the Padres since April 2005.

Lowe, Erickson, and Weaver were the winners.

2008-09-03 22:00:05
309.   Tripon
I love that we actually have a infield defense again. Even if Angel Berroa and his penchant of mystifying errors and almost errors is the starting SS of the new infield.
2008-09-03 22:00:26
310.   Bob Hendley
Nope (great!)
2008-09-03 22:01:04
311.   KG16
oh wow, Manny is translating for Berrora, that could be fun
2008-09-03 22:01:05
312.   Tripon
HAHAHAHHAHAHA. Manny's Angel's interpreter!
2008-09-03 22:01:17
313.   Bob Hendley
They are playing you-know-who's theme song!
2008-09-03 22:01:54
314.   MonkeyBlue
309. The heck does Berroa speak English or not? lol
2008-09-03 22:02:18
315.   KG16
the best part is Berrora speaks English
2008-09-03 22:02:26
316.   silverwidow
Who?? Juan Pierre?? LOL!!!
2008-09-03 22:02:26
317.   MonkeyBlue
oops take out the 309 in my post.
2008-09-03 22:02:40
318.   Gagne55
Berroa pretended not to know English.
2008-09-03 22:02:49
319.   underdog
293 Exactly! That's what the Broncos do, is pile up RBs. I even have Selvin Young.

301 And, nope, sorry, can't.

298 Man, now I feel bad for rejecting you. Well, I'll think of something else. But it probably won't involve Marshawn Lynch. Too bad I didn't draft another Cal player I could trade you.

Oh and... whoo hoo, 5 in a row!

2008-09-03 22:03:44
320.   Cannonball
I'm not sure what I laughed at harder tonight, the 240 exchange or The Manny & Angel Show.
2008-09-03 22:05:31
321.   underdog
Okay, my curiosity is piqued, what did Berroa "say" via Manny?
2008-09-03 22:05:34
322.   Cannonball
I'm not sure what I laughed at harder tonight, the 240 exchange or The Manny & Angel Show.
2008-09-03 22:05:39
323.   Cannonball
I'm not sure what I laughed at harder tonight, the 240 exchange or The Manny & Angel Show.
2008-09-03 22:06:14
324.   Tommy Naccarato
Heaven help us! A Dodger team that is having fun! I don't believe my eyes and ears!

This is the first I've seen of this in quite some time. It's been like since the Mickey Hatcher "Lets go wash the bullpen Nissan" days.

Honestly, when was the last time you seen a Dodger team have this much fun?

If this is because of Manny, then McCourt, load the wagon.....

2008-09-03 22:06:47
325.   Tripon
Question, does Jeff Kent catch that ball for the last out of the game? I say it becomes a single with Kent.
2008-09-03 22:07:46
326.   Jon Weisman
2008-09-03 22:09:16
327.   KG16
sweet, debut of Sons of Anarchy
2008-09-03 22:10:57
328.   Tripon
321 Berroa had Manny be his interpreter for an interview with Patrick O'Neal. Said that he was just trying to play baseball, 5 game win streak was awesome. And then in mid answer he starts to speak english, and then switched back to Spanish. Then Patrick asked him how he feels about the new LF, and Berroa answers in English "Who, who? You mean Juan Pierre?" Meanwhile Manny's all translating to Spanish, and then retranslating Berroa's answers back into English... Even the answers Berroa gave in English.

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