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TV Time
2008-09-10 18:23
by Jon Weisman

I'm scheduled to be on KCAL Channel 9 ever so briefly tonight after the Dodger game ends, talking about the heaviest issues of our time: the Dodgers and Dodger blogs.

Brad Penny was activated from the disabled list today.

* * *

Dodgers at Padres, 7:05 p.m.

Comments (495)
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2008-09-10 18:26:24
1.   thinkblue88
Lets go Dodgers!
2008-09-10 18:27:31
2.   sporky

(knocks on wood)

2008-09-10 18:28:41
3.   Disabled List
Me want win.
2008-09-10 18:30:08
4.   Tripon
Time to play the Padres booyaka.
2008-09-10 18:31:20
5.   Tripon
Just wondering. How the heck was the D'Backs supposed to win in the playoffs with no bullpen?
2008-09-10 18:34:10
6.   Johnny Nucleo
2 "3.5" for 3.5?
2008-09-10 18:36:08
7.   Bob Timmermann
Arizona needs to find a way to keep Orlando Hudson from suffering traumatic hand injuries.
2008-09-10 18:36:48
8.   LogikReader
The Mets Bullpen: It has to be seen to be believed.

7-2 Mets once upon a time; now a 7-7 tie!

2008-09-10 18:36:55
9.   Tripon

Beimel has a 210 ERA+ That's mind boggling.

2008-09-10 18:39:55
10.   Tripon
Ryan Howard, making $15 million next year?
2008-09-10 18:43:32
11.   Uncle Miltie
It's great to see Willy Aybar (Wilber) back in the majors and getting a lot of playing time on a contender. I thought that Aybar's career was over after the news came out about his drug and alcohol problems.

By the way, I created the "Just another walk for Aybar...." saying when he was first called up. I believe it was D4P who abbreviated it as "JAWFA".

2008-09-10 18:55:32
12.   Bob Timmermann
So it wasn't Martha Quinn?
2008-09-10 18:55:58
13.   sporky
Oh god... the pregame idiots are touting Angel Berroa as one of Ned's successful acquisitions.
2008-09-10 18:56:53
14.   The Dude Abides
To any of our Texas commenters, Ike looks like it's going to be catastrophic for the Texas coast as one of the most powerful hurricanes to ever hit the state. Please get ready to evacuate and drive carefully.
2008-09-10 18:58:44
15.   Brendan

Hmmmm...I've never seen Martha Quinn and D4P in the same room together.

2008-09-10 19:00:59
16.   Tripon
SAN DIEGO -- The NL West-leading Los Angeles Dodgers activated pitcher Brad Penny from the 15-day disabled list Wednesday and plan to use their former ace as a reliever.

2008-09-10 19:01:51
17.   Jon Weisman
14 - If Texas is getting its hurricane evacuation news from Dodger Thoughts, I need to get the green screen in shipper shape.
2008-09-10 19:05:20
18.   trainwreck
Is Shawn Estes ever going to go away?
2008-09-10 19:06:03
19.   Jacob Burch
18 O/U 5th inning.
2008-09-10 19:06:35
20.   Marty
14 I'll be in Texas in a couple weeks. That storm better be over by then.
2008-09-10 19:07:19
21.   Bob Timmermann
Shawn Estes is to baseball like Skip Hicks was to UCLA football.
2008-09-10 19:10:13
22.   Andrew Shimmin
21- Boo! I liked Skip Hicks.
2008-09-10 19:11:29
23.   Zak
13 Why is he not? I mean, I don't love the word successful, but he's been decent for a SS, replaced Furcal (injured), Nomar (injured) and Hu (hit way worse than Berroa). Considering he gave up nothing for him, I don't see why it was a bad move. More semantically speaking, considering the dearth of "Ned's successful moves", Berroa definitely counts as one of his successful ones.
2008-09-10 19:11:49
24.   LogikReader

Mets were leading 11-7, and Guzman hits a 3 run HR! 2nd of the night, and the Mets now lead it 11-10.

This is good momentum to go into the playoffs.

2008-09-10 19:12:03
25.   The Dude Abides
That would really tie the blog together.
2008-09-10 19:12:47
26.   LogikReader
Sorry that my last few posts have been about the Mets game, but this is my first chance to really sit down and see their bullpen for myself.

And this is all against the Nationals!

2008-09-10 19:12:54
27.   LoneStar7
14 should we be ok in dallas?
2008-09-10 19:13:01
28.   Tripon
We should just plunk Giles.
2008-09-10 19:13:04
29.   Bob Timmermann
It's not about quality. It's about hanging around for a long time.
2008-09-10 19:13:19
30.   LogikReader
I have the Mets game on PiP with the Dodgers game, switching back to the Sox/Rays game in between.
2008-09-10 19:13:49
31.   Jacob Burch
25 A rare Username/Post content tie in. Kudos to you, good sir.
2008-09-10 19:14:36
32.   underdog
Jeez, Giles, who do you think you are, Ethier?

Jeez, Ethier, who do you think you are, Pierre?

2008-09-10 19:17:05
33.   Andrew Shimmin
29- Sounds like you're trying to put lipstick on a pig, there, fellow.

Gary Bennett is out OPS+ing Berroa, this year.

2008-09-10 19:17:57
34.   trainwreck
I knew someone was bound to say it.
2008-09-10 19:17:59
35.   Jon Weisman
So, I'm gonna be on Channel 9 tonight after the game, it appears.
2008-09-10 19:18:15
36.   Jon Weisman
Seeing as they're filming me type this right now.
2008-09-10 19:18:28
37.   Alex41592
33 - 7:17 p.m. Took WAY longer than I expected.
2008-09-10 19:18:42
38.   Jacob Burch
36 Haha what?
2008-09-10 19:19:53
39.   UVaDodger
16 Could Penny really be worse than Maddux? Is it just me, or wouldn't it be better to pitch Penny in the starting rotation and have Maddux spread his wisdom from the bullpen?
2008-09-10 19:20:08
40.   The Dude Abides

Most recent predicted paths of the various computer models. This is the best website for Atlantic hurricanes, especially Jeff Masters' blog.

2008-09-10 19:20:14
41.   Jacob Burch
I should cease typing how I talk. I don't believe I've ever come across as intelligent doing so. So let's try how I wish I talked.

What in blazin' sam hill are you talkin' about, Mista Weisman.

2008-09-10 19:21:08
42.   Jacob Burch
39 The fear is trying to stretch Penny out will take to long. Also, Brad's ego is fine with it, and you'd be hardpressed to do so with Maddux.
2008-09-10 19:21:20
43.   Bob Timmermann
I hope Jon is wearing a clean shirt.
2008-09-10 19:21:31
44.   sporky
2008-09-10 19:21:45
45.   The Dude Abides
2008-09-10 19:21:48
46.   Alex41592
GONE. Gone. Gone. Gone.


2008-09-10 19:21:55
47.   Bob Hendley
33 - According to Slate 'the exact wording of "putting lipstick on a pig (or hog)' doesn't show up until...[i]n 1985, the Washington Post quoted a San Francisco radio host on plans for renovating Candlestick Park (instead of building a new downtown stadium for the Giants): 'That would be like putting lipstick on a pig."
2008-09-10 19:22:28
48.   trainwreck
Loney Booooooomb!
2008-09-10 19:22:37
49.   Gen3Blue
Could be a tough night. The Strike-zone can't be bigger than 12X10 or three of Lowes pitches would have been called strikes that weren't.

Oh Loney.

2008-09-10 19:22:39
50.   sporky
Do pigs even have lips?
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2008-09-10 19:22:50
51.   Alex41592
That is Loney's 12th HR. Not his 9th.
2008-09-10 19:22:54
52.   The Dude Abides
Thanks, but don't encourage me, or else I'll be doing it throughout the game.
2008-09-10 19:22:56
53.   LoneStar7
ripped!...and our thoughts to Loney's family in Houston
2008-09-10 19:23:01
54.   underdog

Loney, uh, hit that ball pretty far.

Even Vasgersian was speechless.

2008-09-10 19:23:14
55.   scareduck
36 - make sure they green-screen in the background of your mother's basement while you're at it. I'd hate it if they missed any cliches.

Nice solo shot by Loney.

2008-09-10 19:23:22
56.   bhsportsguy
Cool as I am wearing my Loney shirt as I type.

The last person I recall being filmed typing was Angela Lansbury in her opening credits.

2008-09-10 19:23:39
57.   Bob Timmermann
2008-09-10 19:24:03
58.   Jacob Burch
50 NPR was running thin, so All Things Considered actually had a Farmer put lipstick on a pig...on the radio. With lack-luster resulted, we did learn they don't have much of lips, but a heck of a nose.
2008-09-10 19:24:52
59.   sporky
Nice AB.
2008-09-10 19:24:53
60.   bhsportsguy
58 I heard that story.
2008-09-10 19:25:08
61.   Alex41592
Bison patience.
2008-09-10 19:25:12
62.   Bob Timmermann
Too bad Jon doesn't have a typewriter and paper so he can finish with a Stephen J. Cannell like flourish when he pulls the paper out.
2008-09-10 19:26:52
63.   sporky
2008-09-10 19:27:06
64.   Eric Stephen
2008-09-10 19:27:06
65.   underdog
All work and no play make Jon a dull boy. All work and no play make Jon a dull boy. All work and no play make Jon a...
2008-09-10 19:27:17
66.   The Dude Abides
Woo hooooooo! That was smoked!
2008-09-10 19:27:20
67.   Alex41592
Watching Kemp run is such a pleasure. DEWITT!
2008-09-10 19:27:29
68.   Jacob Burch
No sweeter words than "In play, runs."
2008-09-10 19:27:39
69.   LoneStar7
the solucion!
2008-09-10 19:27:47
70.   bhsportsguy
Blake doubles in Kemp, nice.
2008-09-10 19:27:48
71.   Bob Timmermann
Ttiw ed! Ttiw ed!
2008-09-10 19:27:52
72.   underdog
Ah, Shawn Estes, how we missed you.


2008-09-10 19:28:33
73.   bhsportsguy
Even Berroa put a nice charge in that one.
2008-09-10 19:28:46
74.   Bob Timmermann
Meanwhile on ESPN, the beatification of Dustin Pedroia is well underway.
2008-09-10 19:28:53
75.   ChicagoDodger
Serious question here for anyone good at statistics.

What would be the actual odds (chances) of a team losing 8 in a row, then winning 9 of 10 while the team they were chasing lost 9 of 11?

2008-09-10 19:28:57
76.   Eric Stephen
Cannell is the gold standard regarding filmed typing. I can here his little theme in my head right now.

Murder She Wrote is in the Hicks/Estes category as well. I'm convinced my mom saw every episode at least thrice.

2008-09-10 19:29:53
77.   Eric Stephen
Jon, is this for the postgame or the KCAL news? Do you think it will be on the website for those of us without KCAL access?
2008-09-10 19:30:17
78.   Bob Timmermann
I think the best you could do would be to run a simulation program to see how often that pattern occurred in something like 1000 seasons.
2008-09-10 19:30:23
79.   The Dude Abides
Vinny, that's not the right way to pronounce "homer." Rule 1 violation.
2008-09-10 19:30:57
80.   Eric Stephen
here = hear
2008-09-10 19:31:11
81.   LoneStar7
another good ab
2008-09-10 19:31:24
82.   scareduck
Grabowski Principle alert. I repeat, this is a Grabowski Principle alert.
2008-09-10 19:31:44
83.   bhsportsguy
62 At least Sporky didn't ask who is Stephen J. Cannell?

The A Team
Hardcastle and McCormick
Rockford Files
The Greatest American Hero

2008-09-10 19:31:54
84.   underdog
76 What about Barton Fink?
2008-09-10 19:32:51
85.   bhsportsguy
You are just tempting fate with Ethier on deck.
2008-09-10 19:32:57
86.   sporky
83 I find it's better not to ask sometimes.
2008-09-10 19:32:57
87.   Eric Stephen
The spirit of Brian Wilson lives on in Estes.
2008-09-10 19:33:12
88.   sporky
2008-09-10 19:33:15
89.   trainwreck
I think of Garth Marenghi when I think of typing.
2008-09-10 19:33:55
90.   Alex41592
Believe it or not that was only the 24th HR Estes has given up to a lefty in his career.

In comparison, Johan Santana has given up 42 HR's to left handed batters.

Estes has thrown 1667 innings.

Santana 1512 innings.

2008-09-10 19:33:56
91.   bhsportsguy
88 Have you seen any of those shows?
2008-09-10 19:33:56
92.   The Dude Abides
Nothing like two-out RBI with runners in scoring position to boost your confidence.
2008-09-10 19:34:46
93.   ChicagoDodger
78 Thanks Bob! Does such a program exist? I know what has just happened seems rare, but I wondered just how rare.

Certainly there have been collapses, like the Mets last year, and I even remember the year the Dodgers picked up 11 games in 14 days versus the Braves in 82 I beleive?

But has such a run ever occurred immediatley following a 8 or more losses in a row skid? And this late in the season no less?

2008-09-10 19:35:00
94.   Andrew Shimmin
The Matlock theme was better.

2008-09-10 19:35:42
95.   Jacob Burch
74 Is that your second Catholic-themed zinger of the week? On a roll.
2008-09-10 19:36:20
96.   bhsportsguy
Believe it or not
I'm walking on air, I never thought I would feel so free,
Flying away on wing and a prayer
Who could it be, believe it or not, it's just me.
2008-09-10 19:36:53
97.   sporky
91 Er...
2008-09-10 19:37:38
98.   The Dude Abides
Bah! Put Pierre back in!
2008-09-10 19:38:32
99.   Andrew Shimmin
I haven't seen any of those shows, either. I almost watched the Rockford Files once, because you people kept talking about it. But then I didn't, instead.
2008-09-10 19:38:49
100.   Bob Timmermann
You get the Diamond Mind simulator and try it that way.
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2008-09-10 19:39:34
101.   Bob Timmermann
Rats, I missed Dioner Navarro's at bat while David Ross was catching.
2008-09-10 19:39:37
102.   Disabled List
Rick Sutcliffe is having a ball on ESPN with a trivia question he thought up all by himself: What left-handed pitcher did David Ross hit his first career HR off of?

I bet 9 out of 10 DTers know the answer.

2008-09-10 19:40:14
103.   Eric Stephen
The closest I can remember was the Dodgers in 2006. The Dodgers came out of the ASB 1-13 and stood 7.5 behind SD. Then the Dodgers won 11 straight and 17 of 18 while the Padres went 6-12. The Dodgers gained 11 games over an 18 game stretch.
2008-09-10 19:41:12
104.   Andrew Shimmin
102- Partial credit if you guess Mike Fetters?
2008-09-10 19:41:26
105.   Eric Stephen
You figure with his partner's pedigree, he may have pitched instead of his mate.
2008-09-10 19:41:32
106.   sporky
I haven't seen an episode of Cheers, M*A*S*H or Golden Girls, either.
2008-09-10 19:42:13
107.   Eric Stephen
2008-09-10 19:42:42
108.   Alex41592
106 - Well you've come to the place where everybody knows your name so thank you for being a friend. And don't forget to say GOODBYE when it's all over.
2008-09-10 19:42:55
109.   trainwreck
Even I saw episodes of Cheers and Golden Girls as a kid.
2008-09-10 19:42:56
110.   bhsportsguy
106 And Taxi, Barney Miller and even The Wonder Years?
2008-09-10 19:42:56
111.   bhsportsguy
106 And Taxi, Barney Miller and even The Wonder Years?
2008-09-10 19:43:01
112.   Andrew Shimmin
I have a friend (also 28) who's crazy go nuts for Golden Girls. It's not her only eccentricity, but it's the one I find most alarming.
2008-09-10 19:43:28
113.   Bob Timmermann
You know, suicide is painless.
2008-09-10 19:43:37
114.   trainwreck
I didn't see an episode of the Wonder Years till I heard that rumor that Marilyn Manson played Fred Savage's best friend.
2008-09-10 19:43:59
115.   Eric Stephen
Cheers is outstanding. I never really got into MASH but liked what I saw.
2008-09-10 19:44:54
116.   Eric Stephen
Due to unfortunate circumstances, I have in my possession seasons 1 & 2 of GG on DVD.
2008-09-10 19:44:59
117.   bhsportsguy
115 Its Ken Levine thoughts.
2008-09-10 19:45:24
118.   sporky
110 Nope.

A lot of it might have to do with the fact that I grew up overseas.

2008-09-10 19:45:49
119.   The Dude Abides
Put Giles on.
2008-09-10 19:46:02
120.   sporky
118 That makes it sound like I lived in the middle of the Pacific.
2008-09-10 19:46:18
121.   Alex41592
Lowe better get Giles out here.
2008-09-10 19:46:27
122.   Eric Stephen
There was also the dueling Manson rumor linked to the older brother on Mr. Belvedere.
2008-09-10 19:46:41
123.   bhsportsguy
119 And yet she still saw 90210.
2008-09-10 19:46:43
124.   ChicagoDodger
119 or strike him out!
2008-09-10 19:46:56
125.   trainwreck
Did you get to watch the Elephan Show? Or Eureka's Castle? That's the real question.
2008-09-10 19:47:39
126.   Alex41592
Nice job there by Lowe.
2008-09-10 19:47:49
127.   The Dude Abides
Excellent idea to pitch to Giles!
2008-09-10 19:47:53
128.   bhsportsguy
120 Come sit right down and you'll hear a tale...
2008-09-10 19:48:01
129.   Andrew Shimmin
I hope the KCAL guys taping Jon aren't close enough to his screen to read this thread.
2008-09-10 19:48:16
130.   sporky
123 I watched a few minutes when I was in college (I blame my roommate).
2008-09-10 19:48:30
131.   trainwreck
I did not know what Mr. Belvedere was till Ned and Stacy.
2008-09-10 19:49:34
132.   bhsportsguy
I want anyone who is directed to DT after Jon's appearance on TV tonight to see that we make up for lack of cursing with colorful tales of '70s television.
2008-09-10 19:50:16
133.   Tripon
Manny Helmet looks like fermented cheese.
2008-09-10 19:50:44
134.   trainwreck
I can talk all about Are You Being Served? That's 70's television I know.
2008-09-10 19:50:46
135.   Bob Timmermann
The Jays rallied for three runs in the 9th in Chicago, but came up a buck short and lost 6-5. That snapped a 10-game winning streak all against teams with winning records.

Roy Halladay took the loss.

2008-09-10 19:51:40
136.   Alex41592
David Ross is up with a chance to win the game.
2008-09-10 19:51:51
137.   bhsportsguy
135 Only someone with Roy Halladay on their fantasy team would be keeping track of that game.
2008-09-10 19:53:06
138.   Bob Timmermann
Roy Halladay is not on my fantasy team.

The win by the White Sox prevented the Twins from moving into a tie for first.

And what kind of tie?

Flat-footed, of course.

2008-09-10 19:53:40
139.   Bob Timmermann
2 on, 1 out for David Ross in Boston.

And Ross Ks.

It's up to Ellsbury to end it.

2008-09-10 19:53:43
140.   KG16
I dislike this Headley character.
2008-09-10 19:54:09
141.   Alex41592
136 - No heroics. K.
2008-09-10 19:54:12
142.   Vaudeville Villain

David Ross doing what David Ross does. Striking out.

2008-09-10 19:54:37
143.   Disabled List
On my fantasy team: Brian Wilson.

He has earned my wrath, but I'm feeling pretty charitable at the moment.

2008-09-10 19:54:44
144.   LoneStar7
ive never seen someone so uncoordinated make diving catches like that
2008-09-10 19:55:06
145.   larry slimfast
3 pretty good plays there...
2008-09-10 19:56:47
146.   LoneStar7
still interesting in beantown
2008-09-10 19:56:51
147.   bhsportsguy
Why wouldn't the Red Sox want Ellsbury to win the game as opposed to getting on base for Pedroia to bat?
2008-09-10 19:57:04
148.   Bob Timmermann
Some people would prefer David Ross to Danny Ardoin.

I'm not sure why.

2008-09-10 19:57:15
149.   scareduck
106 - it surprises me at how poorly M*A*S*H has stood up over the years. The first couple of seasons were pretty good, but after Mike Farrell joined the cast, it lost a lot of punch.
2008-09-10 19:58:11
150.   The Dude Abides
This postage stamp strike zone is beginning to annoy me.
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2008-09-10 19:58:31
151.   Vaudeville Villain

His last name is easier to pronounce.

Is it Ard-Wah, or Ard-wan?

2008-09-10 19:59:48
152.   bhsportsguy
149 I disagree, the funniest seasons were those with Mike Farrell and Larry Linville.

I liked Wayne Rogers but I don't think he was comfortable supporting Alan Alda, I thought the timing was better between Alda and Farrell.

2008-09-10 20:00:08
153.   Bob Timmermann
Rally killing 2-run homer by Ludwick in St. Louis cuts the Cubs lead to 4-3 with one out in the ninth.
2008-09-10 20:00:53
154.   Tripon
148 Blind loyalty to former Dodgers prospects?

Which doesn't seem to extend to Koyie Hill.

2008-09-10 20:01:14
155.   The Dude Abides
Ar-DWAN, with the N silent and it sort of rhymes with Rack.
2008-09-10 20:03:37
156.   scareduck
153 - Cubs hold on, and may wish to think about the value of Kid Not-Quite-Enough-K's as a closer.
2008-09-10 20:04:08
157.   scareduck
154 - you can't put a finger on that? Huh...
2008-09-10 20:04:33
158.   underdog
149 Actually I just revisited the show again recently (and once wrote a paper on the movie and the TV show in comparison for a college course), and I feel like the first season or two have not aged that well (although there are some wonderful moments and hilarity ensues) as it tried to be too much like the movie, then found its stride, and then the first couple of years for Mike Farrell, when Frank Burns was still around, are actually my favorites. They were funny, a little more serious, but not maudlin. Then the subsequent years it got worse, and imho jumped the shark when Radar left.

The Captain Tuttle episode in the early years is still my favorite, though.

And those are underdog's MASH thoughts.

Btw, I also noticed that the same Korean American actress who played a character in an early episode, resurfaced as a different character a bit later, and then once again later on. Same for a male actor. It's like there were only three Korean actors they could drum up over the years for some reason.

2008-09-10 20:05:10
159.   Tripon
157 That's a horrible pun.

And that's DeWitt's first walk in the last 7 games, I believe.

2008-09-10 20:06:21
160.   The Dude Abides
Well, at least it's a postage stamp-sized strike zone for both teams.
2008-09-10 20:06:43
161.   underdog
Or what BH said about MASH before me. High five!

Btw, between PetCo being a mausoleum and the Pads' announcers so softspoken, I finally realized it was actually more exciting to watch it on Gameday.

2008-09-10 20:08:07
162.   underdog
In play, Berroa(s). Er, out(s).
2008-09-10 20:09:48
163.   Bob Timmermann
Sacrifice bunt for David Ortiz!
2008-09-10 20:09:53
164.   Jon Weisman
77 - It's on KCAL news, and I don't know if it will be on the website or not. If it's not embarrassing, maybe I'll transfer it from my DVR.

I have noticed rule violations in this thread, but I'm not going back to delete them.

Everybody have fun tonight.
Everybody ...

2008-09-10 20:09:54
165.   Indiana Jon
David Ortiz with a sacrifice bunt? Are you kidding me?
2008-09-10 20:10:47
166.   UVaDodger
Wang Chung!
2008-09-10 20:13:11
167.   Tripon
165 Ortiz's silent protest for trading Manny?
2008-09-10 20:13:23
168.   Jacob Burch
164 Now it's like a game to go find them. Hawthorne will never receive his 12 pager from me! How he roils and toils in his grave.
2008-09-10 20:13:24
169.   LogikReader
What always threw me off about Matlock was this: how did all the credits end up in lower case letters?
2008-09-10 20:14:57
170.   Alex41592
Comebacker GIDP.
2008-09-10 20:15:10
171.   LogikReader
Nice DP!! I'll bet two weeks ago, that DP would get botched somehow. ;)
2008-09-10 20:16:05
172.   LoneStar7
boom, j bay strikes out...two out
2008-09-10 20:16:29
173.   Tripon
Manny is a defensive fielder.
2008-09-10 20:16:55
174.   The Dude Abides
Manny on defense >> advertised
2008-09-10 20:18:49
175.   LoneStar7
ahh i love seeing the wind sucked out of beantowners as cora lines out to center
2008-09-10 20:18:58
176.   underdog
Weird, and I can't find any rule violations in this thread. Guess it's like Find Waldo, or that game they used to have in the Sunday comics section where you had to stare at two pictures to see what was subtly different about them.
2008-09-10 20:19:10
177.   trainwreck
Since I can only follow game through Gameday, I am watching episodes of Ghostwriter.

I did not remember Samuel L. Jackson played Jamal's dad. He's in everything!

2008-09-10 20:20:34
178.   Zak
Maybe there are a lot of rule 11 violations.
2008-09-10 20:20:40
179.   LogikReader
I can only imagine the havoc of CTW thoughts.

I was always partial to Square One TV myself :)


Gameday has really improved. You even get instant highlights now. I was able to replay the Loney HR and Dewitt's double shortly after it happened.

2008-09-10 20:22:43
180.   ToyCannon
Gammons just said what I've been saying for 40 years. Sutcliffe disagreed with him which means I've been right all these years.
2008-09-10 20:22:51
181.   thinkblue88
2008-09-10 20:22:53
182.   Tripon
Manny is powerful. POWERFUL.
2008-09-10 20:22:58
183.   nick
ooh, he smacked that one!
2008-09-10 20:23:01
184.   KG16
That went a really long, long way.
2008-09-10 20:23:05
185.   Alex41592
2008-09-10 20:23:17
186.   Tripon
180 What did Gammons say?
2008-09-10 20:23:32
187.   Eric Stephen
Unreal. This is Nintendo baseball.
2008-09-10 20:23:32
188.   The Dude Abides
Wow was that one crushed.
2008-09-10 20:23:35
189.   LogikReader
GOOD.............. LORD!!! Manny Being Manny!
2008-09-10 20:23:54
190.   LoneStar7
i'll never forget this
2008-09-10 20:24:18
191.   Jon Weisman
Manny is now third on the Dodgers in homers.
2008-09-10 20:24:18
192.   underdog
WOW. Again.

"He is a game changer," Vasgersian says.

Manny and Loney have both really crushed theirs. This is fun!

2008-09-10 20:24:51
193.   bhsportsguy
187 I was about to type that Manny is due but that would have been a stupid to thing to think I mean Manny can't hit home runs every day.
2008-09-10 20:25:01
194.   Alex41592
435 feet.
2008-09-10 20:28:17
195.   Zak
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am really glad we got Manny. At the risk of sounding cocky, his bat in the Dodgers lineup means we will match up well with anybody. Honestly, day in day out, I don't think I've ever seen a player on the Dodgers who was a better hitter and that includes Piazza and Green. Like someone said, this is like Nintendo. And it doesn't matter it's a tough HR park, or it's a CY Young candidate pitcher (Webb, not Estes), if he's hitting like this, it's awesome to watch. I'll say it once, and only once, but Thanks Ned.
2008-09-10 20:28:27
196.   whodat807
Manny is just pure fun. Fun to watch him goof around on the bench, fun to watch him mash balls half way to the moon. I really hope we resign him.
2008-09-10 20:28:34
197.   Bob Hendley
SD announcers fawning over Manny.
2008-09-10 20:28:59
198.   LogikReader
Wow, and just like that, I get the Manny HR replay on gameday! wowwww
2008-09-10 20:30:23
199.   The Dude Abides
I wonder if Manny would go for a 3 yr/$66m offer. That would be a good starting point from the Dodger side of things.
2008-09-10 20:30:52
200.   Jacob Burch
195 He got you Ethier too. At least two!
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2008-09-10 20:31:14
201.   oshea2002
I don't even know what to say at this point re: Manny. Unbelievable. One of those summers that makes being a fan of this team/game so special.

Question - at what point/production does McCourt essentially have to give Manny what he wants (or at least make the strongest effort possible to resign him)? Is it already at that point?

2008-09-10 20:31:17
202.   Andrew Shimmin
Three is a prime number.
2008-09-10 20:31:42
203.   NorCal-Dodger
4yrs/85M offer for Manny now.....
2008-09-10 20:31:46
204.   Tripon
I would think the market for Manny services to be fairly extensive. Even with the so called character issues, people aren't just going to ignore what Manny is doing. Dodgers are going to have trouble resigning him.
2008-09-10 20:32:02
205.   KG16
196 - Resigning Manny, regardless of what happens the rest of the way, should be priority #1. Priority #2 should be nothing else.
2008-09-10 20:32:13
206.   ToyCannon
The Farrel years for me were by far my favorite.
2008-09-10 20:33:01
207.   Eric Stephen
I think McCourt will keep Manny at all costs.
2008-09-10 20:33:40
208.   Indiana Jon
Manny seems to be loving being a Dodger too though. That can't hurt our chances of signing him. He didn't look this happy with the Red Sox.
2008-09-10 20:33:42
209.   Eric Stephen
I really love that Manny is back up to his RBI per game average, just so I can bring up Oyster Burns again.
2008-09-10 20:34:06
210.   Alex41592
14th inning in Boston.
2008-09-10 20:35:33
211.   underdog
I wonder if the Dodger game will be over before the Red Sox-Rays game.
2008-09-10 20:35:39
212.   bhsportsguy
UCLA Prospect News.

Tyler Lamb enrolling at Mater Dei.

2008-09-10 20:35:48
213.   MollyKnight
191-My first thought when he hit that homer was I wonder if he'll have the most on the team by the end of the season.
2008-09-10 20:37:06
214.   Andrew Shimmin
Ekstrom's hair looks very soft.
2008-09-10 20:37:09
215.   bhsportsguy
Who is more likely to pitch tonight, James McDonald or Brad Penny?
2008-09-10 20:38:16
216.   KG16
215 - we all know the answer to that. And it's not the one we want.
2008-09-10 20:39:03
217.   underdog
{blink} almost missed that inning.
2008-09-10 20:39:09
218.   LoneStar7
i remember someone was able to post a link to the full gibson at bat on youtube...does anyone have that, or has it been removed from youtube?
2008-09-10 20:39:50
219.   bhsportsguy
213 Not to be a jinx or anything but are you reminding your editors about your preferred playoff teams to cover?
2008-09-10 20:41:14
220.   LU Dodger
Hey how come when people quote Manny's homerun total, they only speak of his Dodger homerun total. It sounds so much cooler to say Manny's 30 something homerun instead of his 13th. I never hear his actual total talked about.

Why is this!

2008-09-10 20:42:26
221.   KG16
220 - old baseball tradition: when you switch leagues, your totals start over.
2008-09-10 20:42:42
222.   oshea2002
218 - removed last time I checked.
2008-09-10 20:43:11
223.   oshea2002
Who is this whack job dressed up as a friar?
2008-09-10 20:43:47
224.   bhsportsguy
220 When players are traded to the other league, only the stats from the new league are referred to but they do get all added up for his career stats.
2008-09-10 20:44:18
225.   Eric Stephen
To bring us full circle, the Petco PA system is playing the theme from MASH.

Or they are suggesting Derek Lowe off himself.

2008-09-10 20:44:19
226.   Bob Hendley
SD announcers have been lauding Lowe the whole game. That's a resigning that looks more and more attractive from our side, but, unfortunately, also for other teams more prepared to give him the years and the bucks.
2008-09-10 20:44:20
227.   thinkblue88
suicide is painless!!!
2008-09-10 20:44:20
228.   bhsportsguy
And poetically, "Suicide is painless" is played a Petco.
2008-09-10 20:44:42
229.   LoneStar7
anyone else on mlb tv seeing this crazed guy in a friar robe and an ushanka
2008-09-10 20:44:44
230.   Tripon
220 Because of the AL/NL split, and his 13 HRs are very impressive for five weeks of torrid hitting.

And why is the MASH theme song playing at Petco? Are they're trying to make Lowe hurt himself or something? Or are they just big Hawkeye fans?

2008-09-10 20:44:50
231.   Alex41592
Torre wants the ball.
2008-09-10 20:44:54
232.   LU Dodger

But like not for real right? I mean that IS how many homeruns and rbi he has right?

2008-09-10 20:45:08
233.   underdog
3 RUN HOMER! for Carlos Pena and the Rays go up 3 in the 14th!
2008-09-10 20:45:13
234.   Tripon
Lowe's out.
2008-09-10 20:45:19
235.   Alex41592
This looks precautionary.
2008-09-10 20:45:20
236.   Eric Stephen
This is the price of our hubris.

Yet I learn nothing!

2008-09-10 20:45:24
237.   Jon Weisman
220 - West Coast Bias
2008-09-10 20:45:34
238.   trainwreck
Carlos Pena has had enough of this extra innings stuff.
2008-09-10 20:45:55
239.   Daniel Zappala
I just barely found out the Giants beat the Dbacks. And I saw Manny hit a home run. Wow, things just keep going well for the Dodgers.
2008-09-10 20:46:27
240.   larry slimfast
it's "belly full o' guts" time.
2008-09-10 20:46:36
241.   Tripon

His Baseball ref page splits his time with boston and L.A., and gives totals. What's he's doing with L.A. is unreal. He has a 214 OPS+!

2008-09-10 20:46:48
242.   underdog
225 That really is an odd coincidence, or did Bob T hear that earlier and bring MASH up because of that? Otherwise, it's a wonderfully serendipitous moment.
2008-09-10 20:46:51
243.   bhsportsguy
232 Yes but if Manny were to somehow surpass Ryan Howard in total home runs, he would not win the NL HR title.
2008-09-10 20:47:52
244.   Paul Scott
What happened to Lowe?
2008-09-10 20:47:55
245.   Tripon
Also, I read the first issue of the new Deadpool comic series.

If you want to see the Philly Phanatic maimed and killed, this series is for you.

2008-09-10 20:48:31
246.   bhsportsguy
I don't think I have ever heard that song played in public aside from a talk show or awards show where someone from the cast was on stage.
2008-09-10 20:48:34
247.   LU Dodger

What about if a player, however unlikely, were to break the Bond's single season HR record while switching leagues mid-way. Would that count?

2008-09-10 20:49:07
248.   Eric Stephen
Manny's stats:

With Dodgers: .394/.488/.758, 13 HR, 39 RBI
Season Totals: .324/.423/.590, 33 HR, 106 RBI

2008-09-10 20:49:14
249.   bhsportsguy
244 Took a grounder off his leg.
2008-09-10 20:49:18
250.   Alex41592
244 - Took a comebacker off the back of the right leg and Torre took him out as a precautionary measure. Lowe looked like he wanted to continue but Torre took the ball.
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2008-09-10 20:49:23
251.   Tripon
244 Liner off of his backleg, couldn't get out in time. Able to pick up the ball, and get the out at first, but couldn't throw accurately. Best to be safe than sorry, and we get to see Elbert tonight!

Its amazing how Torre already trusts Elbert.

2008-09-10 20:50:12
252.   Eric Stephen
Vin Scully karma train hit him, just like it got Kent.
2008-09-10 20:50:41
253.   bhsportsguy
247 My answer is yes but I call Bob Timmermann to the stand. Court attendant please call Mr. Timmermann from the hallway.
2008-09-10 20:51:48
254.   Alex41592
Didn't McGwire break a record but because he switched leagues when he was traded from Oakland to St. Louis it didn't count. I forget.
2008-09-10 20:51:53
255.   Bluebleeder87

right on... little 'ol Bluebleeder will tune in.

2008-09-10 20:51:59
256.   bhsportsguy
251 He's a lefty and he throws hard, those kind of pitchers will be used by any manager.
2008-09-10 20:52:15
257.   Eric Stephen
I'm 100% committed to the Jack-in-the-Box ad campaigns, but the new commercial with the two adults in a stroller needs to go.
2008-09-10 20:52:23
258.   Bluebleeder87
You guys know what happened to D-Lowe? just tuned in...
2008-09-10 20:52:47
259.   underdog
Loney's diving stop and Elbert's stuff = Padres go bye bye.
2008-09-10 20:53:18
260.   KG16
247 - said hitter would have the MLB record, but not necessarily the AL or NL record. Many forget that Roger Maris still holds the AL record for home runs in a season.

This was actually an issue when McGwire went from Oakland to St Louis

2008-09-10 20:53:25
261.   Eric Stephen
He would still have the individual MLB record, but not the specific league record, assuming his league totals were short of the record.
2008-09-10 20:53:31
262.   underdog
Bleeder, see 249 250 251 .
2008-09-10 20:53:38
263.   bhsportsguy
258 Read above 249 250 251
2008-09-10 20:54:13
264.   Tripon
Is it just me, or is Manny getting more RBI opportunities with the Dodgers than his time with the Red Sox? He already has 38 RBIs with the Dodgers compared with 68 RBIs he had with the Red Sox in 63 less games! That has to help his case for a new contract, that he can and will be your main guy, that boston was limiting his offensive potential somewhat.
2008-09-10 20:54:46
265.   Eric Stephen
McGwire hit 58 HR in 1997, 34 with Oakland and 24 with St. Louis. I believe the record he set was only man to hit 20 HR with two teams in one season, but I could be wrong on that.
2008-09-10 20:55:05
266.   LU Dodger
Thanks all...I figured that was the case, I was just starting to second-guess. Pierre sighting!
2008-09-10 20:55:15
267.   Bob Hendley
JP sighting!
2008-09-10 20:55:30
268.   LU Dodger
and there he goes....
2008-09-10 20:55:57
269.   Tommy Naccarato
264 thoughts like that will not get you any fruit cup in Bean Town.....
2008-09-10 20:56:00
270.   Alex41592
Wow, McGwire hit 24 HR's in 51 games for the Cardinals after being traded on July 31st.
2008-09-10 20:57:14
271.   LU Dodger

24* home runs

2008-09-10 20:57:31
272.   LoneStar7
did percy put on 80 pounds this year btw?
2008-09-10 20:57:35
273.   Alex41592
Look out Red Sox have the tying run at the plate. David Ortiz.
2008-09-10 20:58:10
274.   Tommy Naccarato
Its going to be interesting to see this kid pitch to Manny.
2008-09-10 20:58:29
275.   Eric Stephen
David Justice hit 21 HR with Cleveland and 20 with the Yankees in 2000.

There have only been three 40-HR hitters traded mid-season.

Greg Vaughn is the other, in 1996 (31 with Milwaukee, 10 with the Padres).

2008-09-10 20:58:31
276.   oshea2002
Percival just loaded the bases with no outs in about 10 seconds.
2008-09-10 20:59:08
277.   KG16
stealing a base with a 4 run lead? that's pretty close to bad form, no? Or is the magic cut off in the unwritten rules 5 run lead?
2008-09-10 20:59:28
278.   Tripon
Time to see some more Manny magic.
2008-09-10 20:59:55
279.   oshea2002
I like listening to the Pads announcers (always biased towards Trojans) - but you can tell they ran out of material months ago. They've said about 10 words regarding the Padres or members of the team all night.
2008-09-10 20:59:55
280.   underdog
Percival, Brian Wilson, Brandon Lyon, we've seen some stellar closer work today.
2008-09-10 21:00:08
281.   Tommy Naccarato
277 Never Give up. Never surrender
2008-09-10 21:00:15
282.   Bluebleeder87
Baptism of Fire (tm) Vinnie
2008-09-10 21:01:10
283.   Tripon
Do the Padres have an actual bullpen for Padres pitchers? Or do they pitch on the side too?
2008-09-10 21:01:39
284.   GMac In The 909
277 Sweep the leg.
2008-09-10 21:02:07
285.   fanerman
Isn't all this Percival injury talk just speculation?
2008-09-10 21:02:41
286.   Alex41592
283 - They have their own bullpen in left center field.
2008-09-10 21:03:04
287.   Eric Stephen
Actual bullpen. I think they planned to have two bullpens beyond the fence, but there were some miscalculations in the planning so they threw the visitor pen down the RF line.
2008-09-10 21:03:08
288.   oshea2002
For all the "greatness" that is Red Sox fans, there are a lot of empty seats in Fenway right now.
2008-09-10 21:03:45
289.   Bob Hendley
Its like the SD announcers are not even pretending to be interested in their own team. They say that they can't wait to see Manny in Coors.
2008-09-10 21:04:03
290.   Eric Stephen
Matt Vasgersian is unaware Penny has been activated from the DL.
2008-09-10 21:04:41
291.   Tripon
288 A consequence of late start times for games. That, or Boston is a town of front runners, either one.
2008-09-10 21:04:52
292.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
288 - Well, it is past midnight there.
2008-09-10 21:05:22
293.   oshea2002
289 - can you blame them?
2008-09-10 21:05:27
294.   Alex41592
Not to mention it is the 14th inning on a school night.
2008-09-10 21:05:39
295.   KG16
i have to say, i'm a little worried about the return of Brad Penny.

Not sure why, just yet, but I've got an uneasy feeling in my gut.

2008-09-10 21:05:46
296.   sporky
I love the way Vin says "ball 3," as if he's about the scold the pitcher.
2008-09-10 21:06:07
297.   underdog
281 By Grabthar's hammer, we live to tell the tale.
2008-09-10 21:06:25
298.   bhsportsguy
They have been playing for almost 5 hours at Fenway.
2008-09-10 21:06:41
299.   underdog
295 Or in Brad Penny's gut.
2008-09-10 21:07:09
300.   Tripon
Maybe San Diego believes it has a shot of signing Manny in the off season.
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2008-09-10 21:07:13
301.   Bluebleeder87
alright! nice to see Penny back.
2008-09-10 21:07:22
302.   UVaDodger
295 Then now is the time to start praying Lowe doesn't miss a start.
2008-09-10 21:07:51
303.   LogikReader
Penny in to pitch? oooh this is going to be fun!
2008-09-10 21:08:08
304.   oshea2002
I would have liked a bigger lead before seeing Penny back on the mound.
2008-09-10 21:08:14
305.   Bob Hendley
290 - Jeez, and now we expect them to be up on all the Dodger's latest moves. A tough crowd.
2008-09-10 21:08:38
306.   KG16
Sutcliff is talking about putting all the "league stuff" away. there whole "different set of rules" thing kind of gets in the way of the argument.

One out to go in Boston.

2008-09-10 21:08:54
307.   Andrew Shimmin
Jason Bay: not clutch.
2008-09-10 21:09:16
308.   Alex41592
We better have Wade or Beimel ready to go.
2008-09-10 21:09:19
309.   bhsportsguy
Jason Bay does not help Rick Sutcliffe's argument for being MVP.
2008-09-10 21:09:21
310.   Eric Stephen
Addressing the problem of traded players not considered for awards (i.e. Manny, CC, or Bay in this case), Rick Sutcliffe blamed this on "interleague play." Ummm, OK.
2008-09-10 21:09:41
311.   Jon Weisman
Could be my imagination, but Penny has never looked more Broxtonesque in size to me than he does tonight.
2008-09-10 21:10:14
312.   John Hale
Baseball Overload Moment from a seldom poster

Watching Dodgers on MLB.TV and Sox-Rays on ESPN. Saw Manny strike out. Looked up at the sox game 15 seconds later and wondered why the sox didn;t have any outs if manny struck out.
I need to get out more often

2008-09-10 21:10:14
313.   Alex41592
Penny looks like he's gained 20 pounds.
2008-09-10 21:10:28
314.   Andrew Shimmin
The stupid wind keeps Alex Cora's sure thing home run from winning the game. By a couple hundred feet.
2008-09-10 21:10:32
315.   Tripon
Ol' Rick Honeycutt is already going to the bullpen phone. This is amusing.

Looks like Wade's going to back up Penny.

2008-09-10 21:10:49
316.   Bob Timmermann
So sayeth the guy who won the Cy Young Award mainly because he got traded from a bad AL team to a good NL team in midseason.
2008-09-10 21:10:56
317.   underdog
Penny had Troy Percival for brunch today. With some fava beans and a nice chianti.
2008-09-10 21:10:59
318.   KG16
Alex Cora doing what he does so well...

150:1's keep the magic going.

Dear, White Sox, Twins, and Blue Jays - the world is counting on you to pass the Red Sox. Do not let us down.

Thanks, the World.

2008-09-10 21:11:17
319.   UVaDodger
310 ??????

Is that the opposite land argument?

2008-09-10 21:11:22
320.   LogikReader
You know, it doesn't help that Dave O'Brien, veteran RED SOX broadcaster was covering the game for ESPN. It was like an alternate home feed.


Are Joe and Ned torturing us on purpose? Penny struggling off the DL I could have called with braille.

2008-09-10 21:11:36
321.   oshea2002
I would put Wade in now. Penny is liable to let this slip to 5-3 or so, then anything can happen.
2008-09-10 21:12:05
322.   Bob Hendley
What sort of mph is Penny getting?
2008-09-10 21:12:15
323.   KG16
311 - somebody switched their jerseys in the club house, perhaps?
2008-09-10 21:12:23
324.   sporky
Is Kuo still unavailable?
2008-09-10 21:12:39
325.   Tripon
Impossible is Nothing.
2008-09-10 21:12:40
326.   underdog
Hope Penny is on a very short leash.
2008-09-10 21:13:07
327.   MonkeyBlue
Take Penny out now!
2008-09-10 21:13:56
328.   Tripon
That was hilarious. What would that be, bullpen interference? What if one of the bullpen guys caught the ball in midair?
2008-09-10 21:14:00
329.   Bluebleeder87
the sea (of Dodger pitchers) parts for Ethier.
2008-09-10 21:14:01
330.   Alex41592
Penny is around the mid 90's according to Gameday.
2008-09-10 21:14:56
331.   thinkblue88
GD says 94-96
2008-09-10 21:15:08
332.   Bluebleeder87

while we're ad it, he needs a hair cut too.

2008-09-10 21:15:11
333.   bhsportsguy
Kuo is unavailable.
2008-09-10 21:15:39
334.   oshea2002
Great, tying run up.
2008-09-10 21:15:39
335.   LoneStar7
penny on the mound is still less scary to me than the black hole : (
2008-09-10 21:15:47
336.   KG16
heck of a play by Loney, but it's probably an out if he let's DeWitt get it.
2008-09-10 21:15:53
337.   Alex41592
Well this is a failure.
2008-09-10 21:15:55
338.   thinkblue88
Hmm, than grunting FB was clocked at 89mph.
2008-09-10 21:16:08
339.   MonkeyBlue
Good job Torre! Smart move to bring in useless.
2008-09-10 21:16:11
340.   Bob Timmermann
I think the Dodgers should put in Jason Hammel.
2008-09-10 21:16:15
341.   fanerman
Mmm, maybe Loney shoulda let the 2B get that one.
2008-09-10 21:16:29
342.   Tripon
Well, can't be a Dodgers game without some drama.
2008-09-10 21:16:43
343.   underdog
I saw Penny go up to 94/95 a few times. Velocity looked fine, control not as fine. And now I hope he gets to spend some time on a stationary bike after this stint, because... Leon's getting laaaaaaaarger.
2008-09-10 21:16:49
344.   Bluebleeder87

Vinnie mentioned one pitch & it was 93mph.

2008-09-10 21:17:38
345.   LogikReader
What is Joe trying to prove, anyway? This is not the time to experiment with shaky pitchers.

Goodness! Hopefully Wade can put a plug on the drain.

2008-09-10 21:18:33
346.   JoeyP
Penny's not a reliever.
Shut him down for the rest of the year if he's not going to start.
2008-09-10 21:18:33
347.   Tripon
Ghandi's in tht game.
2008-09-10 21:19:10
348.   Bluebleeder87
is Troncoso still with the team or what? I like Wade but his fastball is to straight for my taste.
2008-09-10 21:19:27
349.   bhsportsguy
345 Actually, it is, you never know when you are going to get a chance, bottom of the lineup with a 4 run lead, you take a shot.
2008-09-10 21:19:31
350.   Bluebleeder87

for this situation...

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2008-09-10 21:19:47
351.   oshea2002
Like I said, if we're up 10, then let Penny pitch. This game was/is still in doubt.
2008-09-10 21:19:49
352.   Tripon
348 Wade's been a way better pitcher than TronTron has been this year.
2008-09-10 21:20:01
353.   The Dude Abides
I wonder why Beimel isn't in the game, with Giles up next.
2008-09-10 21:20:21
354.   schoffle
Penny's inablity to get one swinging strike is quite distressing.


Why is Kuo unavaiable?

2008-09-10 21:20:55
355.   Alex41592
Torre doesn't mind giving somebody the opportunity but if you fail he probably won't go back to it again. He likes to see things. He gave it a shot and it failed. He knows that.
2008-09-10 21:21:06
356.   bhsportsguy
354 They feel he is a little tired.
2008-09-10 21:21:16
357.   Bluebleeder87
Keep 'em of balance Wade.


2008-09-10 21:21:19
358.   Eric Stephen
I thought it was Lloyd, but I may be wrong.
2008-09-10 21:22:16
359.   bhsportsguy
355 Unlike Andruw Jones, Brad Penny will probably get another shot unless he is hurt.
2008-09-10 21:22:33
360.   underdog
Hasn't Beimel been in a lot lately, or am I just imagining that?
2008-09-10 21:22:51
361.   Alex41592
Filthy 0-1 curve by Wade.
2008-09-10 21:22:51
362.   Bluebleeder87

way better?? show me some #'s & i'll believe you.

2008-09-10 21:23:41
363.   oshea2002
I'm fine with this if we don't see Penny again. Unlike Saito and possibly Furcal, we don't need him to contribute, he hasn't contributed, and I don't think he will/can. Under no circumstances should he start a playoff game, and I can't imagine anyone wants to see him out of the pen in a playoff game.
2008-09-10 21:23:57
364.   Alex41592
Wade ERA+ 180
Troncoso ERA+: 97
2008-09-10 21:24:20
365.   sporky
2008-09-10 21:24:28
366.   Alex41592
Cory Wade!
2008-09-10 21:24:30
367.   oshea2002
Awesome job again for Wade.
2008-09-10 21:24:32
368.   scareduck
This is Major Giles to ground(out) control...
2008-09-10 21:24:33
369.   thinkblue88
wooo! Wade!! DeWitt with the nice play.
2008-09-10 21:24:40
370.   GMac In The 909
Atta babe, Blakie.
2008-09-10 21:24:41
371.   KG16
The Solution solves the problem of Penny being less than adequate.
2008-09-10 21:24:53
372.   Bluebleeder87
I like it how he proved me wrong. Nice going Wade.
2008-09-10 21:25:14
373.   Bob Timmermann
Take it from me kid, it's Leon, not Lloyd.
2008-09-10 21:25:15
374.   MonkeyBlue
It good to have Wade back.
2008-09-10 21:25:23
375.   underdog
Can't do any better there than Wade just did. Very impressive.
2008-09-10 21:25:33
376.   Tripon
362 Cory Wade ERA+ 180 TronTron ERA+ 96

2008-09-10 21:25:34
377.   UVaDodger
All right! Bring us home, bullpen, bring us home.
2008-09-10 21:25:48
378.   Bluebleeder87

oh ok.

2008-09-10 21:25:53
379.   LogikReader
They don't call him The Solution&trade for nothin'!
2008-09-10 21:25:59
380.   The Dude Abides
Awesome bit of pitching there from Wade. Bases loaded, two batters, three outs.
2008-09-10 21:27:16
381.   Tripon
Isn't this Hayhurst's 3rd game in 3 nights? The Padres seem to want this guy's arm to fall off.
2008-09-10 21:27:34
382.   JoeyP
3 up on the loss side is a good spot to be in.

As long as the Dodgers dont get swept this weekend, the team is in good shape.

2008-09-10 21:27:34
383.   underdog



Bleeder: Wade: W-L 2-1
- ERA 2.45
- K 42 vs Walks 14
WHIP: 1.01 BAA: .212

Troncoso's not even close.

Though I do like TronTron's upside, too.

2008-09-10 21:28:33
384.   Bluebleeder87

if I may, what web site do you use for the (tm) LogicReader.

2008-09-10 21:30:00
385.   underdog
Wan't Dirk Hayhurst one of the Max Fischer players?

No? Sounds like it anyway.

2008-09-10 21:30:05
386.   Eric Stephen
Wade 4.08
Troncoso 2.86

Wade .233
Troncoso .367

2008-09-10 21:30:33
387.   Tripon
DeWitt. Trying to single handily win the LaRoche vs. DeWitt argument.
2008-09-10 21:31:12
388.   schoffle

that is supprising considering how dominant he has been lately, albeit in very limited usage.

2008-09-10 21:32:04
389.   Bluebleeder87
I like Troncoso's moving fastball... but yeah I agree Cory Wade has been lights out for us.
2008-09-10 21:32:36
390.   GMac In The 909
I swear Vin is a DT reader. Which one of you is Vin?
2008-09-10 21:32:41
391.   Jacob Burch
386 More like Sabr-party-pooper-itians if you ask me.
2008-09-10 21:32:54
392.   Jacob Burch
390 What now?
2008-09-10 21:33:30
393.   StolenMonkey86
386 beat me to the punch. But I'll take either one of them.
2008-09-10 21:34:00
394.   underdog
389 - I like it too.

390 - What did he say?

Okay, if this game ends soon I may still be able to watch a DVD tonight. A productive evening all around.

2008-09-10 21:34:14
395.   Eric Stephen
I'm firmly in the Wade for rookie of the year camp (well, non-Kuroda, but still) though.

I just think Troncoso is really good too.

2008-09-10 21:34:20
396.   StolenMonkey86
390 - For those of us who don't have the privelage of hearing, what'd he say?
2008-09-10 21:34:28
397.   Bluebleeder87
the past few years we truly have been blessed with a great bullpen.
2008-09-10 21:34:50
398.   Eric Stephen
I meant "Dodger rookie of the year".
2008-09-10 21:35:52
399.   Eric Stephen
I think Kemp couldn't stop himself from laughing.
2008-09-10 21:35:54
400.   Tripon
Manny doesn't defer to Kemp anymore in the outfield.
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2008-09-10 21:36:10
401.   Bluebleeder87

what's the scoop?

2008-09-10 21:37:28
402.   Bluebleeder87
imagine if the fences were pulled in, I think Gonzales would be good for 37-40 dingers.
2008-09-10 21:37:38
403.   Tripon
Meanwhile, Wade just keeps on mowing down the Padres.

Think Wade can start?

2008-09-10 21:38:15
404.   Alex41592
Wade has just been incredible.
2008-09-10 21:39:04
405.   underdog
403 Why mess with a good thing? He's an awesome 6th or 7th inning guy. Or in this case 7th and 8th.
2008-09-10 21:39:10
406.   Bluebleeder87
well that's pretty cool the new season of "Californication" is coming... Jon you gotta check it out man, really cool series.
2008-09-10 21:40:03
407.   GMac In The 909
Well, I've noticed a few things the last couple nights, but I wasn't taking notes (haven't been a journalist for a while now). The kicker tonight was when Vin re-hashed the quotes from Hurdle saying he hates the Dodgers. Obviously, Vin's setting up the next series, but he's also doing it with the wink and a nod the majority here do. I'm convinced he's among us.
2008-09-10 21:40:43
408.   Eric Stephen
Mark Grant brushes his teeth multiple times per broadcast. Discuss.
2008-09-10 21:41:20
409.   Bluebleeder87
Cory Wade did go down with a tired arm... so I'm sure the Dodgers know he probably isn't capable of being a starter no? that's what I'm thinking.
2008-09-10 21:42:03
410.   underdog
Might as well have let Wade bat for himself there. Or just take an out and skip to Martin, save time that way.
2008-09-10 21:42:18
411.   Eric Stephen
He's probably just giving props to Jon for providing the impetus for the SI piece. Because, you know, Vin is the master of self promotion. :)
2008-09-10 21:42:42
412.   Bob Hendley
I like how Torre uses M. Sweeney so that he won't get rusty. Where the heck is Pee Wee?
2008-09-10 21:42:51
413.   Alex41592
T.J Simers in Torre's pregame kept baiting him into talking about a potential Cubs/Dodgers NLDS. Torre would not bite. But, aside from that Simers and Torre kind of have a bizarre chemistry.

So, look for that in Simers' column tonight.

2008-09-10 21:43:43
414.   Tripon
Any other park Martin.
2008-09-10 21:43:44
415.   Eric Stephen
As much as I want Andre to get a hit for himself, I really want to see Manny bat again.
2008-09-10 21:43:45
416.   The Dude Abides
Any game where we can use Sweeney as a PH when we're ahead and the bases are empty qualifies as an excellent game. Then I don't feel guilty for wishing he will strike out, causing Joe and Ned to eventually realize that he needs to be DFA'd.
2008-09-10 21:43:53
417.   KG16
It's like they need to make dead center 175 feet
2008-09-10 21:45:06
418.   KG16
415 - wish granted
2008-09-10 21:45:12
419.   MonkeyBlue
Hustle for baby face!
2008-09-10 21:45:21
420.   The Dude Abides
Yes! Andre hustle!
2008-09-10 21:45:30
421.   KG16
and that's why you play it out, kids.
2008-09-10 21:45:31
422.   Jon Weisman
Ethier now batting .301.
2008-09-10 21:45:31
423.   Alex41592
Ethier hustle. Another multi hit game for Andre.
2008-09-10 21:45:36
424.   Tripon
413 I get the feeling that whatever Simers does, he just does it for kicks, and doesn't care what happens outside of the Children's hospital he champions and his love for Vin Scully and John Wooden that seeps in his column at times.
2008-09-10 21:46:00
425.   thinkblue88
Andre the Great...
2008-09-10 21:46:04
426.   GMac In The 909
Manny! Manny! cheers are echoing throughout Petco. Nice work, Chavez Ravine South.
2008-09-10 21:46:07
427.   Eric Stephen
That's why!
2008-09-10 21:46:10
428.   Tripon
Manny is a very strong man.
2008-09-10 21:46:16
429.   sporky
2008-09-10 21:46:17
430.   LogikReader
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-09-10 21:46:19
431.   thinkblue88


2008-09-10 21:46:22
432.   Bluebleeder87
dude, this guy is INSANE GOOD...
2008-09-10 21:46:27
433.   The Dude Abides
Manny crush!
2008-09-10 21:46:28
434.   GMac In The 909
I heart Manny.
2008-09-10 21:46:30
435.   oshea2002
2008-09-10 21:46:32
436.   MonkeyBlue
Good god Manny!
2008-09-10 21:46:35
437.   KG16
I... I... I...


I mean, just, wow

2008-09-10 21:46:37
438.   Alex41592


2008-09-10 21:46:53
439.   Eric Stephen
Only 2 HR behind Kemp.
2008-09-10 21:46:55
440.   Tommy Naccarato
Manny being Manny AGAIN....
2008-09-10 21:47:03
441.   trainwreck
That's a lot of homeruns recently.
2008-09-10 21:47:06
442.   underdog
416 I think we've all been wishing for that for about four months now. Maybe we should try a different tactic -- like putting a gypsy curse on Sweeney's toes, giving him just a few weeks of ingrown toenails or something.
2008-09-10 21:47:08
443.   thinkblue0
is there any doubt that we HAVE to keep manny?
2008-09-10 21:47:12
444.   thinkblue88
2008-09-10 21:47:22
445.   Eric Stephen
Way to give Broxton more rest Manny!
2008-09-10 21:47:27
446.   KG16
Dear Joe,

You're up by 5, rest Broxton tonight.



2008-09-10 21:47:41
447.   trainwreck
Hit 4 in a game like Shawn Green, then I will be really impressed ; )
2008-09-10 21:47:43
448.   underdog
As the teenage girls say, OMG! Manny!

I.. he... wow.

2008-09-10 21:47:52
449.   StolenMonkey86
2008-09-10 21:47:54
450.   Tommy Naccarato
Thanks Boston. Thank you very much!
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2008-09-10 21:47:56
451.   oshea2002
My fiancee has declared Manny her favorite Dodger ever. No one ever catches Sax for me, but wow. Just wow.
2008-09-10 21:47:58
452.   ucladodger
That man is amazing. One of the best hitter ever.
2008-09-10 21:48:21
453.   bhsportsguy
Eric Stephen, if you want tell people you were there, I'll keep your secret.
2008-09-10 21:48:27
454.   KG16
447 - quick, someone turn off the humidor.
2008-09-10 21:48:32
455.   Uncle Miltie
Rick Neuheisel isn't the most environmentally conscious coach in the Pac 10.
2008-09-10 21:49:02
456.   Eric Stephen
Manny Dodger OPS Tracker™:


2008-09-10 21:49:21
457.   KG16
453 - and here I was thinking the guy in the Manny dreads and jersey they've been showing on KCAL was eric
2008-09-10 21:49:24
458.   Tripon
But Andrew Lambo! It'll be intresting if and when he comes up, if he isn't traded away for whatever reason. He can only play in LF, RF, or 1st, all which are manned by players with long term control, or a guy we may want to bring back with a long term contract.
2008-09-10 21:49:33
459.   StolenMonkey86
Now's a good time to give Proctor some face time. Or McDonald.
2008-09-10 21:49:46
460.   larry slimfast
why is beimel out there?
2008-09-10 21:49:59
461.   Bob Timmermann
It was a helicopter that had a hybrid engine.
2008-09-10 21:50:06
462.   Eric Stephen
Remember that time just now when I posted from my iPhone while sitting in the "beach" part of right center field at Petco?
2008-09-10 21:50:38
463.   bhsportsguy
460 Because was already warmed up.
2008-09-10 21:50:39
464.   Bob Hendley
Nobody told Manny that you can't do this at PETCO. He is gonna make mince meat out of Coors.
2008-09-10 21:50:58
465.   MollyKnight
Padres' announcer just said "Colin Farrell lookalike Jason Repko takes over in left."


2008-09-10 21:51:11
466.   StolenMonkey86
Not a save situation. No need to pull the bull out of the pen.
2008-09-10 21:51:12
467.   MonkeyBlue
459. Indeed bring Proctor in for garbage time. Let not waste Biemel.
2008-09-10 21:51:18
468.   Alex41592
And Beimel has the highest ERA+ on the team. 210.
2008-09-10 21:51:31
469.   Tripon
460 Beimel was warming up alongside broxton. He was already 'burned' anyway, so might as well use him.

Maybe Torre wants to make sure Beimel's a type-A FA.

2008-09-10 21:51:32
470.   scareduck
451 - my sister would get it. Saxie was her favorite Dodger back when.
2008-09-10 21:51:58
471.   KG16
or give McDonald a try. might just need him next year.
2008-09-10 21:52:01
472.   bhsportsguy
462 "There's someone wearing a Chad Billingsley jersey knocking kids aside for Manny's HR ball."
2008-09-10 21:52:18
473.   MollyKnight
Besides last year's World Series, has Manny ever played in Coors?

Also, I'm bracing for all the NYPost and Daily News stories about how Torre is in the playoffs and the Yankees aren't.

2008-09-10 21:52:26
474.   MonkeyBlue
464. I hope Manny have patience because they're going to walk him so much.
2008-09-10 21:52:38
475.   Bob Timmermann
Vin doesn't read the Griddle. He would have known that the Padres were mathematically eliminated back on September 6!
2008-09-10 21:52:51
476.   KG16
First base has been cause trouble for both teams tonight. Like it keeps moving around or something.
2008-09-10 21:52:55
477.   bhsportsguy
465 What's the East Coast take on Manny on the Dodgers?
2008-09-10 21:53:06
478.   Eric Stephen
Wow, I'm normally a Vasgersian fan, but I can't support this one: he said Manny is the best opposite field power hitter in the NL West since Phil Nevin.
2008-09-10 21:53:27
479.   sporky
475 How do the Yankees look?
2008-09-10 21:53:44
480.   Alex41592
3 1/2 game lead!
2008-09-10 21:53:46
481.   GMac In The 909
2008-09-10 21:54:04
482.   bhsportsguy
Beimel gets a comebacker which is what he does so well.
2008-09-10 21:54:20
483.   sporky
2 Yes!!
2008-09-10 21:54:21
484.   MonkeyBlue
WOOO! 3 1/2 game! Hopefully Dodgers put the Rockies out of their misery.
2008-09-10 21:54:21
485.   Eric Stephen
Manny is 2 for 9 with a double, 4 walks and a HBP in 3 games at Coors. .222/.500/.333
2008-09-10 21:54:23
486.   underdog
We win!

In honor of Andre, 3.5! out. Nice.

Happy times.

Let's take a couple in Colorado.

2008-09-10 21:54:39
487.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
477 The prevailing feeling of "just wait until he screws you" has slowly been taken over by "holy crap, this guy is good."
2008-09-10 21:55:01
488.   bhsportsguy
478 Ummm, Mike Piazza.
2008-09-10 21:55:15
489.   GMac In The 909
486 Only a couple? =)
2008-09-10 21:55:56
490.   MollyKnight
You know what's crazy? Nobody in the NL is playing as good as the Dodgers are right now. And that's all that matters in the playoffs, anyway.

I'd much rather go into the playoffs at ten games over .500 having played .750 ball in September than go in 20 games over having played .300 ball in the home stretch.

2008-09-10 21:56:16
491.   I Love LA
WOW..Simply amazing...even I have no complaints for once. I am just in awe of Man Ram. Good job by our bullpen...I guess if I want to be negative is to keep Brad Penny away from any close games. Now hopefully we smell blood with this weekend's series at Colorado. We cannot look back.
2008-09-10 21:56:51
492.   sporky
Now it's time for Jon!
2008-09-10 21:56:57
493.   Jon Weisman
2008-09-10 21:56:58
494.   Alex41592
BTW, Inside the NFL is now in HD. And it is spectacular. Though, now on Showtime.
2008-09-10 21:57:45
495.   Jacob Burch
Weisman Watch!

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