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Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny
2008-09-10 21:53
by Jon Weisman

Manny Ramirez hit his 13th and 14th homers tonight since being acquired by the Dodgers July 31. He is now third on the team in home runs, closing in on Matt Kemp (16) for the No. 2 spot. He also has more home runs as a Dodger than Steve Finley, who hit 13 in his two months with the team in 2004, and tonight passed Juan Pierre's career home run total of 12.

* * *

Brad Penny admitted to Dylan Hernandez of the Times today that he prioritized his contract worries over his health this year by pitching hurt.

"The one thing that bothers me is that I should've said something," Penny said of the shoulder problems that he claims hindered him for most of the season.

Penny said he kept quiet because he felt he had to continue pitching to secure a contract for next season. He has a $9.25-million option for 2009 that the Dodgers can buy out for $2 million.

"That's why I was out there trying to push myself -- because I didn't have a guaranteed job next year," he said. "I went about the whole situation wrong. If I had to do it over again, I would've just shut myself down."

Penny no doubt thought he could succeed, but pitching hurt didn't exactly help matters on any level, did it?

Comments (114)
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2008-09-10 21:56:56
1.   KG16
Now this is the team that I signed up for.
2008-09-10 21:57:22
2.   silverwidow
I don't have a good feeling about the Colorado series.

Don't start Kershaw!

2008-09-10 21:57:40
3.   scareduck
Har de har har har.
2008-09-10 21:58:12
4.   trainwreck
Isn't 13 unlucky?
2008-09-10 21:58:38
5.   sporky
Will I ever witness a Juan Pierre HR?
2008-09-10 21:59:05
6.   underdog
Tee hee.

As amazing as Manny has been, my first thought after reading the above was -- wow, Pierre has hit 12 home runs? It's just hard to imagine... any.

Anyway, I am awed and humbled by the Dreadlocked One's accomplishments.

2008-09-10 21:59:27
7.   thinkblue88
Is their even video proof a Pierre HR??
2008-09-10 22:00:42
8.   GMac In The 909
KCAL with rule 5 violations all over the place.
2008-09-10 22:01:04
9.   Jon Weisman
Well, rule 5 is really being tested now.
2008-09-10 22:01:04
10.   LogikReader
How much do you want to bet most of those 12 Pierre HRs were at Coors?
2008-09-10 22:02:10
11.   debaser
I live in that dead zone known as the spot where DirecTV doesn't offer Channel 9 and Extra Innings blacks it out due to Channel 9 being available on cable. Has Jon already been on?
2008-09-10 22:02:47
12.   Bob Timmermann
Juan Pierre hit one home run at Coors.

He hit 3 at Dolphins Stadium.

2008-09-10 22:03:14
13.   GMac In The 909
11 Not yet. But something tells me Jon is actually running for office.
2008-09-10 22:03:25
14.   Bob Timmermann
Pierre's homers by stadium:
10 Parks
Dolphin Stad 3
PetCo Pk 1
PNC Pk 1
Wrigley Fld 1
Chase Field 1
Comerica Pk 1
MinuteMaidPk 1
CitizensBank 1
Coors Fld 1
Qualcomm St 1
2008-09-10 22:03:25
15.   LogikReader

Really? I never would have guessed.

2008-09-10 22:03:55
16.   Jon Weisman
10 - Only one was.
2008-09-10 22:04:45
17.   sporky
PetCo Pk 1


2008-09-10 22:04:48
18.   Alex41592
14 - I would love to see video of Pierre's HR in Petco.
2008-09-10 22:05:27
19.   Bluebleeder87

I don't think he has? right guys?

2008-09-10 22:06:17
20.   Jon Weisman
Could this be a long and possibly fruitless wait?
2008-09-10 22:06:21
21.   kinbote
Any chance he'd sign for 2y/$52 million?
2008-09-10 22:07:16
22.   FirstMohican
Will I ever witness a Juan Pierre HR?

Just checked You Tube. Nada. Doesn't look good.

2008-09-10 22:07:25
23.   Uncle Miltie
And I'm going to guess that Pierre has had at least one inside the park home run.
2008-09-10 22:07:48
24.   Jacob Burch
20 Good night everybody. To take us out, here's some guy in his basement set to Yakety Sax
2008-09-10 22:07:48
25.   Bluebleeder87

Comerica is mind boggling but it was probably hit when the fences were brought in.

2008-09-10 22:07:50
26.   CajunDodger
It might resemble the Zapruder film...
2008-09-10 22:08:06
27.   kinbote
21 Sorry. "He" refers to Manny.
2008-09-10 22:08:16
28.   bhsportsguy
I am recording it so I will fast forward to it if and when it appears.
2008-09-10 22:08:35
29.   Bob Timmermann
Only one inside the park homer for Pierre also. That was in Detroit.
2008-09-10 22:09:57
30.   LogikReader

"Take us out?" What does that mean, "take us out?!" WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!!!!

2008-09-10 22:09:59
31.   GMac In The 909
22 You mean the video titled "Juan Pierre - The Natural" isn't a play off his ability to hit home runs?

2008-09-10 22:10:12
32.   kinbote
14 He only hit one at Coors? And how many were inside the park? Juan Pierre Thoughts is back! :)
2008-09-10 22:10:19
33.   Bluebleeder87
Jon's title to this post reminds me of the U2 song "Deire"
2008-09-10 22:10:43
34.   LogikReader
30 was for 24
2008-09-10 22:12:24
35.   Jon Weisman
I may have been bumped by a stuffed gorilla and discarded razor-blade art.
2008-09-10 22:12:57
36.   Andrew Shimmin
Is Jon the one holding the gorilla suit for ransom?
2008-09-10 22:13:47
37.   sporky
35 The indignity...
2008-09-10 22:14:19
38.   Eric Stephen
"Manny wants the dollars
He's 'Dre's protection
He's Ned's last chance
In a year of election."
2008-09-10 22:14:49
39.   Alex41592
For 50,000 bonus points! What do these pitchers all have in common?

Jose Lima
Brian Lawrence
John Patterson
Solomon Torres
Craig Dingman
John Thomson
Adam Eaton
Jamey Wright
Victor Santos
Dave Bush
Ian Snell
Jon Lieber

2008-09-10 22:15:53
40.   Jacob Burch
39 Given the previous discussion, dudes who actually gave up a tater to Juan Pierre?
2008-09-10 22:16:04
41.   Eric Stephen
Punished by Pierre?
Jualloped by Juan?
2008-09-10 22:16:25
42.   debaser
39 One playoff game winners?
2008-09-10 22:16:42
43.   GMac In The 909
A boy's finger was bitten off by a pitbull. It's almost like DT.
2008-09-10 22:17:06
44.   The Dude Abides
Humiliated pitchers who gave up homers to Slappy McWorthless?
2008-09-10 22:17:43
45.   LAT
I didn't get to see the game. Notwithstanding,two hits and an ER, how did Penny look? Bad or just rusty?

Bob, by any chance, did you have lunch at La Salsa today?

2008-09-10 22:18:37
46.   Eric Stephen
Same old for Penny. Velocity is there. Control and location is not.
2008-09-10 22:19:15
47.   The Dude Abides
He's throwing a little harder, but couldn't make AAA guys like Antonelli swing and miss.
2008-09-10 22:19:19
48.   Gen3Blue
Somebody lamented about whether it was better to finish a game comeback or wakeup on the E. coast to find they had won. Perhaps it was DL. Anyway, I woke up somewhat disoriented in time to watch Manny's 2nd Homer. All I could remember for sure was Loney's 1st inning bomb and a vague good feeling including some positives for my new favorite potential Dodger, Blake DeWitt. Amazing it is---3 1/2--unhiemlich.
2008-09-10 22:19:31
49.   Andrew Shimmin
This is starting to feel like the practical joke in The Information when Richard Tull sends Gwyn Barry a copy of the Sunday Times with a note saying, "Saw something in here that would interest you."
2008-09-10 22:19:59
50.   Alex41592
40 , 41 , 44 - Of course.

42 - For fun and it's just a joke.

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2008-09-10 22:20:21
52.   Eric Stephen
Oh yeah, 8 games in 12 days.
2008-09-10 22:21:09
53.   Louis in SF
Wouldn't the deal to get Manny have to be three years for 75mill, or at least 70mill? Since he gave up two years and what he wants is security, it would strike me the Dodgers have to put in a 3rd year.
2008-09-10 22:21:20
54.   thinkblue88
sry, here ya go
2008-09-10 22:21:47
55.   GMac In The 909
49 I was hoping Jon would walk across Jackie Johnson's weather report, a la Borat. Oh well.
2008-09-10 22:21:53
56.   Jon Weisman
From Dylan Hernandez:

Limited to two starts in the last 11 weeks, Penny said he had regrets about decisions he made this season.

"The one thing that bothers me is that I should've said something," Penny said of the shoulder problems that he claims hindered him for most of the season.,0,4216291.story

2008-09-10 22:22:12
57.   Eric Stephen
I'm guessing 4 years is the minimum length of a potential Manny deal.
2008-09-10 22:22:34
58.   Alex41592
51 - Dang, eight or so rows back. At least I've seen one.
2008-09-10 22:22:43
59.   LAT
The D'backs slide is reminicent of Mets '07.
2008-09-10 22:22:49
60.   Jacob Burch
"She claims to be able to channel the soul of an ancient warrior, but..."

This is getting good!

2008-09-10 22:22:57
61.   Jon Weisman
Also: "Penny said he kept quiet because he felt he had to continue pitching to secure a contract for next season. "
2008-09-10 22:23:10
62.   Bob Timmermann
Are you stalking me?

I've already given you one restraining order.

2008-09-10 22:24:07
63.   Jon Weisman
51 - edited

2008-09-10 22:26:49
64.   LAT
62. I think you were sitting right next to me. You were doing a NYT crossword puzzle?
2008-09-10 22:27:02
65.   Bob Timmermann
Harry Kalas' call makes Pierre's homer even more interesting to watch.
2008-09-10 22:27:12
66.   FirstMohican
31 "...and then we go to Wrigley Field, I got the wiggly feel." Colletti can't say he wasn't warned about Pierre's arm.
2008-09-10 22:27:16
67.   Eric Stephen
It would have been more stalkery if LAT said something like, "you dripped some salsa on the floor as you ate your three-pepper fajita burrito today."

Trust me, if you want stalker advice, I'm your man! :)

2008-09-10 22:28:04
68.   Bob Timmermann
I try to be as antisocial as possible at lunch.
2008-09-10 22:31:55
69.   bhsportsguy
64 You will not get any ideas on what to do for your cooking final at La Salsa.
2008-09-10 22:32:53
70.   ryu
Gotta love our one-two punch of Ethier and Manny. Ethier gets on, Manny hits it out.
2008-09-10 22:32:56
71.   GMac In The 909
A stolen robotic gorilla in Vermont or Dodgers? Dodgers or a robotic gorilla in Vermont? Hmmm ...

Tie goes to the story that can appear on YouTube:

2008-09-10 22:33:15
72.   thinkblue88
2008-09-10 22:33:20
73.   Andrew Shimmin
Here we go.
2008-09-10 22:33:23
74.   Bluebleeder87
It's on Fellas!
2008-09-10 22:33:27
75.   Jacob Burch
And Jon follows the Gorilla.

Now that's a one-two punch!

2008-09-10 22:33:53
76.   GMac In The 909
Jon sighting!!!
2008-09-10 22:34:05
77.   Andrew Shimmin
TBLA shout out, too.
2008-09-10 22:34:16
78.   Andrew Shimmin
Scareduck gets the shaft, though.
2008-09-10 22:34:19
79.   silverwidow
They called Jon "Joe"
2008-09-10 22:34:23
80.   Jacob Burch
My name has made it on TV!
2008-09-10 22:34:34
81.   Bob Timmermann
2008-09-10 22:35:08
82.   Andrew Shimmin
Alright. Well done, Jon. Let's never do this again.
2008-09-10 22:35:17
83.   Jacob Burch
I too heard Joe, but didn't want to accuse without being sure.
2008-09-10 22:35:38
84.   Bluebleeder87
2008-09-10 22:35:45
85.   Bob Timmermann
If that's the good angle to shoot Charles Steinberg from, I'd hate to see what the bad one is.
2008-09-10 22:36:08
86.   FirstMohican
Joe Weissman?
2008-09-10 22:36:15
87.   thinkblue88
2008-09-10 22:36:31
88.   LAT
I was with two other people and we were discussing whether Lincicum being on a losing teamwill hurt his Cy Young chances, whether Delgado should win MVP, Sarah Palin and the bailout of the Fannie and Freddie Mac.

Before I wondered if it was you, I noticed your ID holder that was from the Santa Anita Breeders Cup and I wondered if it was a month young or a few years old.

2008-09-10 22:36:46
89.   LogikReader
Hey hey! My post made the TV!!
2008-09-10 22:37:26
90.   thinkblue88
Yes, I saw it!

It was pretty cool...except for the "Joe" part. =/

2008-09-10 22:37:58
91.   Jon Weisman
Well, if Norma Jean Baker could change her name, I guess I can too.
2008-09-10 22:38:33
92.   Bluebleeder87
I always thought they asked for your name before they interviewed you? a friend of mine got interviewed once a long time ago & told me they ask for your name first & then write it down on a note book i think he told me...
2008-09-10 22:38:35
93.   LogikReader
Specifically, posts 28-33 made the TV. Of course the land my nerdiest post about how I'm tracking three games at once :)
2008-09-10 22:38:42
94.   Jacob Burch
91 Joe Monroe?
2008-09-10 22:40:17
95.   Jon Weisman
92 - Yes, that all happened.

They did spell it right on TV at least.

2008-09-10 22:40:18
96.   Jacob Burch
I wonder if the Gorilla's TV appearances have improved since being aired in front of Jon
2008-09-10 22:41:42
97.   LogikReader


2008-09-10 22:41:43
98.   Brent Knapp
Jon, I've never seen a basement with a window. How did you do that?
2008-09-10 22:43:40
99.   LAT
Jon, don't feel bad about the "Joe" thing, I have a published case where I am forever listed as "Leroy Tubbs."
2008-09-10 22:44:34
100.   thinkblue88
How often does a sports blog make the news? Even if it was for a minute or so. Just shows what a great place Mr. Weisman has created. Congrats.
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2008-09-10 22:44:43
101.   underdog
Okay, now I really hope someone posts this clip on the interweb. Especially an edited version that is just Jon's clip, so I can skip the rest of the KCAL stuff.

Congrats on the exposure, Joe! Er, Jon!

2008-09-10 22:45:04
102.   LogikReader
Poor Jon. Even that rinky-dink LA Times Podcast did a better job pronouncing Jon's name.
2008-09-10 22:45:15
103.   KG16
99 -yeah, but isn't that your real name?
2008-09-10 22:46:58
104.   LogikReader
I thought it was really nice to give all the other Dodgers Blogs quick mentions. That was a class move by KCAL. Overall, an good piece.

But why was there a reporter in West LA?

2008-09-10 22:51:14
105.   LogikReader

I'm sorry about what I said about the Times' podcast. It's actually pretty good, and it featured Molly Knight!

I'm famous!!

2008-09-10 22:53:40
106.   underdog
99 103 They call him MISTER Tubbs.
2008-09-10 23:00:48
107.   bhsportsguy
99 I know his real name and I'll just say I laughed and laughed when I read this.
2008-09-10 23:05:09
108.   Xeifrank
104. Which other ones did they mention? There are so many of them. :)
vr, Xei
2008-09-10 23:12:26
109.   LogikReader
From memory, I believe KCAL mentioned ItD, True Blue LA, Alyssa Milano, and... Gary Miller's blog??

Plus some others.

2008-09-10 23:21:52
110.   LoneStar7
shoot i can't believe im missing the tv appearance...what was discussed? what was said about dodger thoughts?
2008-09-10 23:22:22
111.   gibsonhobbs88
57 - 4 years at 22-25 mil is probably the going price for Manny. We have some money going off the books this year, Kent, Nomar, maybe Penny or Lowe depending on what the front office feels they can let go. Of course, we are still saddled with the Black Hole at $18 mil for one more year and Pierre at 9-10 mil for 2 or 3 more unless we can find someone to take him (we would still have to eat a large portion of his remaining contract though).
Manny is an RBI machine though. 14 dingers and 40 RBI in just 38 games so far is doing better than most of our expectations from what I remember the day he came over. I think I had predicted 12-15 HR and 45 RBI and other posters thought that was too high. The going prediction was 10-12 HR and about 33-37 RBI for the whole two months.
2008-09-10 23:26:37
112.   berkowit28
Hey! We now have a better record than Florida (.514 vs. .507) - we'd be 3rd in NL East. Still only 5th in NL Central (St. Louis is at .538), by a considerable distance. Playing better than anyone for the past week and a half, though.
2008-09-10 23:46:12
113.   JRSarno
Hmm -- 0-3 v. CHC at Wrigley. No Manny back then. Definitely thinking far too prospectively here. But, regardless, I hope we use the remainder of this road trip as a confidence booster for winning outside of the Ravine.
2008-09-10 23:57:34
114.   jasonungar07
"Let me tell you something -- I don't go deep anymore," Ramirez said. "Line drives to right field. Don't expect me to hit 40 home runs. No way."
2008-09-11 00:09:11
115.   Xeifrank
Magic Number: 14
vr, Xei

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