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Dodger Fan Choices for All-Time L.A. Team
2008-09-27 13:57
by Jon Weisman

Pedro Guerrero isn't on the team, and Rick Monday is. Well.

And it certainly gets a little dicey when a Hall of Famer gets left off the pitching staff.

Press release follows:

All-Time Los Angeles team voted on by fans and revealed during final home game

LOS ANGELES – The Los Angeles Dodgers, who have been celebrating their 50th anniversary all season long, unveiled the results of a season-long voting process on that yielded the fans' choice for the All-Time L.A. Dodger team. Voting to find the Los Angeles Dodgers' all-time team began back in September 2007 and concluded nearly a year later, resulting in a team of 15 players, deemed the greatest in the storied history of the franchise since moving west in 1958. The team was revealed to fans in attendance at Thursday night's regular season home finale.

The All-Time Los Angeles' Dodgers team:

FIRST BASEMAN: Steve Garvey appeared in a then-National League record 1,207 games played from 1975-81. Garvey also set the Los Angeles Dodger record for games played at first base (1,672) and won four consecutive Gold Gloves at the position (1974-77) while going a Major League record 193 consecutive games without an error. In 1974, the 10-time NL All-Star won the MVP, hitting .312 with 21 homers and 111 RBI. Garvey had 200 or more hits in six seasons and batted .393 in All-Star Games, while winning the MVP of the Midsummer Classic in 1974 and '78. The current member of the front office won the 1978 NLCS MVP and batted .338 with 11 home runs in 11 career postseason series.

SECOND BASEMAN: Davey Lopes played for the Dodgers from 1972-81. He was a converted center fielder who became part of the Dodgers' record-setting infield for eight and a half seasons along with first baseman Steve Garvey, shortstop Bill Russell and third baseman Ron Cey. Lopes stole 418 bases with Los Angeles, including a career-high 77 in 1975. He won a Gold Glove in 1978 and was a four-time All-Star (1977-81). Lopes hit 98 home runs as a second baseman, which is the most in Dodger franchise history.

SHORTSTOP: Maury Wills began his first tenure with the Dodgers in 1959 and proceeded to make the All-Star team five times over the next eight seasons while taking home the 1962 National League MVP Award. The two-time Gold Glove winner was traded after the 1966 season, but returned to Los Angeles in 1969 and retired a Dodger after the 1972 campaign. Wills stole a then-Major League record 104 bases in '62 and ended up swiping a Dodger record 490 bases, leading the NL for six straight seasons (1960-65). Wills was a member of four National League pennant winners in Los Angeles, including three World Championship teams ('59, '63, and '65) and hit .367 with three stolen bases in the 1965 World Series against Minnesota.

THIRD BASE: Ron Cey started at the hot corner for the Dodgers from 1973-82, finishing sixth in the Rookie of Year Voting in '73. From 1971-85, Cey played in 1,468 games a third base, which is the most in franchise history. Beginning in 1974, Cey made six straight All-Star teams and started the Midsummer Classic in '74, '75 and '77. "The Penguin" led the Dodgers in home runs four times and had career highs of 30 homers and 110 RBI in 1977, finishing eighth in the MVP voting and leading Los Angeles to the NL pennant. In the 1981 World Series, Cey batted .350 with a homer and six RBI, including a key three-run blast at Dodger Stadium in the first inning of Game 3, which jump-started the Dodgers to four straight wins over New York. For his efforts, Cey was named the 1981 World Series Tri-MVP along with Pedro Guerrero and Steve Yeager.

CATCHER: Mike Piazza was drafted by Los Angeles in the 62nd round of the 1988 First-Year Player Draft, but took the league by storm in his rookie season of 1993. The Pennsylvania native hit .318 with 35 homers and 112 RBI (both Dodger rookie records), made the All-Star team, and was unanimously selected as the NL Rookie of the Year. Piazza also won the Silver Slugger Award, an accolade he would win every full season he finished in a Dodger uniform (1993-97). Viewed by many as the greatest hitting catcher of all-time, Piazza finished second in the MVP vote after the 1996 and '97 seasons and was named the 1996 All-Star Game MVP in his hometown of Philadelphia. In the five full seasons Piazza played for the Dodgers, he averaged 33 home runs and 105 RBI while batting .337. Piazza also set the Los Angeles Dodger single-season mark with a .362 batting average in 1997 and remains the only Dodger to hit a home run completely out of Dodger Stadium during a game.

OUTFIELDER: Rick Monday, a former Arizona State University star and current Dodger broadcaster, played for the Dodgers from 1977-84. His most memorable hit was the ninth-inning home run in Game 5 of the 1981 National League Championship Series at Montreal, which propelled the Dodgers into the World Series. Yet his most memorable moment might have been saving the American flag from being burned by two fans on the field at Dodger Stadium in 1976 when he was an outfielder for the Chicago Cubs.

OUTFIELDER: Reggie Smith, who was acquired from the St. Louis Cardinals in June 1976, joined teammates Ron Cey, Steve Garvey, and Dusty Baker in 1977 as baseball's first 30-home run quartet. The switch-hitter finished with 314 career home runs, spanning from 1966-82. He was a key member of the 1977 and '78 pennant-winning Dodger teams and the 1981 World Series championship team. Smith was a three-time All-Star in L.A. and finished fourth in the NL MVP voting in both 1977 and 1978.

OUTFIELDER: Duke Snider, inducted into Baseball's Hall of Fame in 1980, hit 389 home runs with Brooklyn and Los Angeles between 1947 and '62. He compiled a .300 batting average in 1,923 lifetime games with the Dodgers. Snider also collected the first Dodger hits in the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and Dodger Stadium. His uniform No. 4 was retired by Los Angeles on July 6, 1980.

STARTING PITCHER: Orel Hershiser, whom manager Tommy Lasorda dubbed "Bulldog," may best be remembered for his 1988 season, when he won the National League Cy Young Award and helped his Dodgers to the World Series championship, going 23-8 with eight shutouts and a 2.26 ERA. That same year, Hershiser spun 59.0 consecutive scoreless innings to break Don Drysdale's Major League record of 58.2 innings. The right-hander burst onto the scene in 1984, when he went 11-8 with eight complete games and a 2.66 ERA to finish third in the NL Rookie of the Year balloting. He followed that up with a solid sophomore season in 1985, going 19-3 with a 2.03 ERA. Hershiser was an NL All-Star from 1987-89, getting the start against the American League in both of the first two years. He finished in the Top 3 in ERA in the NL five times (1984-85, 1987-89), and led the NL in innings pitched three years in a row from 1987-89.

STARTING PITCHER: Sandy Koufax, one of the most dominating pitchers in baseball history, won 165 games and compiled 2,396 strikeouts in 2,324.1 innings during his 12 seasons with the Dodgers from 1955-66. He won the Major League Cy Young Award in 1963, 1965, and 1966, and also earned National League Most Valuable Player honors in 1963. The Brooklyn native led the NL in ERA for five straight seasons from 1962-66, including three seasons with a sub-2.00 ERA. He pitched in four World Series, going a combined 3-1 with a 0.95 ERA in eight games while taking home the championship in 1959, 1963, and 1965. Koufax, a seven-time All-Star, was named World Series MVP in 1963 and 1965. The left-hander tossed four no-hitters during his career, including a perfect game against the Chicago Cubs on September 9, 1965. From 1965-66, his final two years in baseball, Koufax went 53-17 with 54 complete games and 1.89 ERA in 84 games. His No. 32 was retired by the Dodgers in 1972, and he was inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame that same year.

STARTING PITCHER: Johnny Podres will always be known as the baby-faced kid who defeated the New York Yankees in Game 7 of the 1955 World Series, giving the Brooklyn Dodgers their only World Championship. Podres did, however, pitch eight-plus seasons in Los Angeles as well, helping them win two more World Series titles (1959 and 1963). Podres' best season in Los Angeles came in 1961, the Dodgers' last year playing at the Los Angeles Coliseum, when he won a career-high 18 games. In 1963, Podres pitched Game 2 of the World Series against the Yankees, defeating them 4-1 and helping the Dodgers sweep New York in the Fall Classic. The left-hander was selected to four All-Star Games, all in a Dodger uniform, and he got the start in the second of two 1960 Mid-Summer Classics. Podres also led the NL in 1957 with six shutouts.

STARTING PITCHER: Don Sutton spent 16 of his 23 Major League seasons with the Dodgers, and is atop the franchise's all-time leader board with 233 wins, 550 games, 3,814.0 innings, 2,696 strikeouts, and 52 shutouts. Sutton was a 20-game winner just once in his career, going 21-10 for the Dodgers in 1976, but he did win in double digits for Los Angeles in 15 of his 16 seasons with the team. He would also average close to 230 innings pitched per season while with the Dodgers. He also tossed 156 complete games in a Dodger uniform. Sutton was a member of five pennant-winning Dodger teams in 1966, 1974, 1977, 1978, and 1988. He was a four-time All-Star for the Dodgers, and he pitched in three World Series in Dodger Blue (1974, 1977, 1978). Sutton also led the National League with a 2.20 ERA in 1980, and he had an NL-best nine shutouts in 1972. His No 20 was retired by the Dodgers in August 1998, just one month after he was inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame.

STARTING PITCHER: Fernando Valenzuela exploded onto the scene with his rookie campaign in 1981, becoming the first pitcher to win the Rookie of the Year and Cy Young Awards in the same season. He also started for the National League in the All-Star Game that year. Fernandomania swept the country during that strike-shortened season of 1981, as the 20-year-old from Sonora, Mexico, went 13-7 with eight shutouts and 11 complete games to help the Dodgers to a World Series championship. Valenzuela spent the first 11 seasons of his career with the Dodgers, earning All-Star honors for six years in a row from 1981-86 and winning a career-high 21 games in '86. On June 29, 1990, the current Dodger broadcaster tossed a no-hitter at Dodger Stadium against the St. Louis Cardinals.

RELIEF PITCHER: Eric Gagné was the most dominating relief pitcher in baseball over three seasons, saving 52, 55 and 45 games in 158 chances (96.2 %) from 2002-04. Gagné won the 2003 National League Cy Young Award with an amazing 1.20 ERA while going a perfect 55-for-55 in save opportunities. Most impressively, his consecutive saves streak of 84 games, which lasted from Aug. 14, 2002 until July 3, 2004, set a Major League record that may not ever be broken. Gagné also spawned a ninth-inning Dodger Stadium phenomenon, as the Dodger faithful couldn't wait until the first few guitar licks from "Welcome to the Jungle" were played so they could stand up and scream while the Canadian closer charged in from the bullpen to electronic signs that proclaimed "Game Over." Gagné's 161 saves as a Dodger are first in franchise history.

Comments (96)
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2008-09-27 14:09:50
1.   Linkmeister
Snider's best years were behind him when he arrived in LA. Monday?

Goes to show the LA team hasn't had outstanding outfielders, although I'd pick Willie Davis ahead of Monday any time.

2008-09-27 14:11:32
2.   Daniel Zappala
Reggie Smith!
2008-09-27 14:14:04
3.   EricNus
Where the heck is Don Drysdale?
2008-09-27 14:17:19
4.   Tripon
2-1 Phillies
2008-09-27 14:17:26
5.   Who Is Karim Garcia


2008-09-27 14:19:58
6.   Jon Weisman
There are several insults on, or I guess I should say off, this list.
2008-09-27 14:20:28
7.   berkowit28
[OT] I want the thank the various people here who recommended Mad Men over time. It was under my radar, and I never seem to be looking at AMC in my channel guide. I took someone's advice, caught one, liked it, and went and got the DVD of Season 1. I am going through the whole thing - 2/3rds done. It's really excellent.

I don't want to drop into the end of season 2. Does anyone recall how long it was last year before they started showing reruns of the season? January, maybe? is already listing Season 2 as an advance purchase, so it may not take until next summer, but it's not likely to come out on DVD right away either.

2008-09-27 14:22:29
8.   Marty
Jeez, no Manny?
2008-09-27 14:26:34
9.   Jon Weisman
7 - There will probably be a marathon at some point, I'd imagine. In any case, I bet you don't have to wait forever for reruns or the second-season DVD.
2008-09-27 14:30:25
10.   Alex41592
Another interesting game in Milwaukee for the Cubs.
2008-09-27 14:32:47
11.   Tripon
Rickie Weeks cannot field.
2008-09-27 14:36:47
12.   Tripon
3-1 Phillies.
2008-09-27 14:41:13
13.   Alex41592
Royals tie it up in Minnesota.
2008-09-27 14:43:01
14.   madmac
11 you could say he is a week fielder
2008-09-27 14:48:56
15.   nofatmike
Duke Snider AND Johnny Podres? Something tells me a few East-Coasters had a hand in this.
2008-09-27 14:50:44
16.   overkill94
I'm a bit late on the take, but bummer about Paul Newman passing. While The Sting and Butch Cassidy are my two favorite Newman movies, I would be remiss if I didn't mention Hud which happened to be one of my favorite classics. Nobody's Fool is another underrated modern classic as well. Basically, I can't remember any Paul Newman role that I didn't love.
2008-09-27 14:52:11
17.   Tripon
Ted Lilly gives up a single to Braun, ending his quest for a no hitter.
2008-09-27 14:53:40
18.   Tripon
Felix Pie is also a poor fielder.
2008-09-27 14:55:27
19.   LogikReader
I didn't even notice the Brewers game was interesting until just after Lily yielded the hit.

I've been switching back and forth.

2008-09-27 15:00:21
20.   D4P
If you were to measure my feelings about all baseball players at every point in my life, Pedro Guerrero in the mid-80s would probably get the highest measurement.
2008-09-27 15:01:05
21.   overkill94
20 Even more than mid-90's Delino Deshields?
2008-09-27 15:03:32
22.   overkill94
Yahoo's box scores are meeeeessed up right now
2008-09-27 15:05:18
23.   D4P
Hmmm...come to think of it, Delino's measurement may have been even larger*...

*In absolute value

2008-09-27 15:06:36
24.   Jon Weisman
Tying runs on base for Washington with none out, top eighth
2008-09-27 15:06:49
25.   Jon Weisman
-- on second and third
2008-09-27 15:07:06
26.   Jon Weisman
Hank Aaron Award candidate Lastings Milledge at the plate ...
2008-09-27 15:07:59
27.   Alex41592
Shane Victorino is hurt in Philly after a collision.
2008-09-27 15:08:12
28.   Jon Weisman
... and Milledge hits a sac fly.
2008-09-27 15:08:56
29.   Alex41592
Victorino is up and will stay in.
2008-09-27 15:09:36
30.   Tripon
3-2 Phillies.
2008-09-27 15:10:02
31.   Andrew Shimmin
Guess they should have declined the holding penalty.
2008-09-27 15:10:08
32.   D4P
I see that Ja(y)son Werth hit his 24th HR of the season today.
2008-09-27 15:12:50
33.   overkill94
31 If their defense was even semi-competent on that play then accepting the penalty would have been the right call
2008-09-27 15:13:17
34.   Alex41592
Kansas City takes the lead in Minnesota.
2008-09-27 15:14:59
35.   Daniel Zappala
Bad day for Bob, because ND is winning too.
2008-09-27 15:15:31
36.   Tripon
Jason Marquis is pitching for the Cubs right now.
2008-09-27 15:21:27
37.   Jon Weisman
Tying run at plate for Milwaukee, one out.

His name is Craig Counsell!

2008-09-27 15:23:41
38.   Jon Weisman
Counsell singles in 1, Braun up, Fielder on deck.
2008-09-27 15:23:58
39.   Alex41592
Real good stuff in Milwaukee.
2008-09-27 15:25:26
40.   Jon Weisman
Braun HBP loads bases.
2008-09-27 15:26:01
41.   Jon Weisman
Insurance run for Philly: 4-2, bottom of the eighth.
2008-09-27 15:26:02
42.   Alex41592
Phillies add a run.
2008-09-27 15:27:19
43.   Who Is Karim Garcia
There is too much baseball for me to keep track of.
2008-09-27 15:27:37
44.   Alex41592
Twins bring the go ahead run to the plate.
2008-09-27 15:28:14
45.   Alex41592
All crucial games are 4-2.
2008-09-27 15:28:34
46.   Jon Weisman
Texas leaguer single for Fielder: 4-3 Cubs.
2008-09-27 15:28:58
47.   Tripon
Apparently, the Cubs really want to play the Dodgers.
2008-09-27 15:29:18
48.   Alex41592
47 - Bring it.
2008-09-27 15:30:58
49.   Jon Weisman
Tony Jackson has the lineup:

Furcal, SS
DeWitt, 2B
Ramirez, LF
Kent, 1B
Ethier, RF
Martin, C
Kemp, CF
Blake, 3B
Maddux, P

2008-09-27 15:31:09
50.   Marty
Cubs outfield goes into Keystone Kops mode.
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2008-09-27 15:31:19
51.   Jon Weisman
Two outs to go in Philly.
2008-09-27 15:31:27
52.   Alex41592
To review:

Twins trying to come back to hold on to the division lead.

Brewers trying to come back to hold off the Mets in the Wild Card chase.

Phillies two outs from the division.

2008-09-27 15:32:18
53.   Jon Weisman
Force at home in Mil, two outs.
2008-09-27 15:33:25
54.   Jon Weisman
And the Cubs end the eighth ahead 4-3.
2008-09-27 15:33:41
55.   Tripon
Forget about playing every other day. Furcal and Kent want to play every day. For five innings.
2008-09-27 15:34:33
56.   Jon Weisman
Two on in Philly for Washington. Could Lidge blow his first save here?
2008-09-27 15:34:40
57.   Alex41592
Nationals bring go ahead run to the plate.
2008-09-27 15:35:49
58.   Alex41592
Twins go down in the 7th.
2008-09-27 15:36:27
59.   Alex41592
4-3 in Philly. Too much!
2008-09-27 15:36:29
60.   Jon Weisman
Hernandez singles in a run - 4-3 Phillies.
2008-09-27 15:36:58
61.   Jon Weisman
'Babe' Guzman up for the Nats.
2008-09-27 15:38:06
62.   silverwidow
6-3 Cubs
2008-09-27 15:38:11
63.   Jon Weisman
Fukodome two-run AFLAC blast for the CUbs.
2008-09-27 15:38:12
64.   Alex41592
Flushing just went nuts.
2008-09-27 15:38:28
65.   Tripon
Cubs makes it 6-3.

Ol' Lou says that nah, "We rather face the Mets."

2008-09-27 15:38:54
66.   Jon Weisman
Guzman singles but no one scores - bases loaded, one out.
2008-09-27 15:39:44
67.   Louis in SF
Old friend Salomen Tores gives up a two run bomb and perhaps the Dodgers won't be going to Chicago for the first round.
2008-09-27 15:40:40
68.   silverwidow
Phillies win NL East
2008-09-27 15:40:51
69.   Jon Weisman
Fox has just done some exit polling and called the NL East for Philly.
2008-09-27 15:40:53
70.   Tripon
Lidge clinches the N.L. East
2008-09-27 15:41:30
71.   Alex41592
Harry Kalas is very happy.
2008-09-27 15:42:11
72.   silverwidow
So we're gonna face either the Cubs or Philly.

I'd rather face Chicago.

2008-09-27 15:42:56
73.   Alex41592
Sunday is setting up to be fantastic. Perhaps Monday too.
2008-09-27 15:42:58
74.   Daniel Zappala
Who would you rather have the Dodgers play in the 1st round?
2008-09-27 15:45:46
75.   Tripon
The Phillies have weaker starting pitching, but they have a good bullpen with the best closer.

The Cubs starting pitching might be better than the Phillies, but Zambrano has been up and down, and Ryan Dempster is their 1st starter despite Harden having a better year.

Either lineup doesn't scare me.

2008-09-27 15:46:08
76.   Alex41592
The big thing for the Phillies is now Cole Hamels will pitch Game 1 on Wednesday. He was set to pitch tomorrow if it meant anything.
2008-09-27 15:47:09
77.   silverwidow
I HATE Citizens Bank Park. Our pitchers might get shelled.

Please, bring on the Cubs.

2008-09-27 15:48:28
78.   Disabled List
The Phillies lineup is not to be taken lightly. They can pound teams into submission, and Ryan Howard is red-hot at the moment. The Dodgers starting pitching is good, but it's not top-heavy. Lowe and Billingsley do not strike fear into the heart of Philly fans.

Besides Cole Hamels and Lidge, there's no Philly pitcher I'd take especially seriously. But we're not going to win any slugfests with them. We're really going to need our Howard-stoppers (Beimel and Kuo) to be in top form.

And if we do end up losing to the Phillies, the key hit that beat us will almost assuredly be coming from the bat of Jayson Werth. You can take that to the bank.

2008-09-27 15:48:31
79.   Louis in SF
I would rather face Philly. They definitely have hitting, but their pitching is not as strong as Chicago.
2008-09-27 15:52:36
80.   Eric Stephen
Chicago has the better offense, and the better pitching when compared to Philly. I'd rather face the Phils.
2008-09-27 15:54:53
81.   silverwidow
I feel much more comfortable w/Lowe, Bills & Kuroda against Chicago's right handed lineup.
2008-09-27 15:58:20
82.   Eric Stephen
vs. RHP, 2008
Cubs: .275/.350/.443, 112 sOPS+
Phils: .254/.331/.425, 102 sOPS+
2008-09-27 16:03:36
83.   Daniel Zappala
I just like the idea of Manny hitting home runs in Chicago.
2008-09-27 16:04:21
84.   Tripon
Manny can hit home runs in Philly as well.
2008-09-27 16:05:29
85.   Eric Stephen
There is that. Plus the fact that the Dodgers have never faced the Cubs in the postseason. That would be cool.
2008-09-27 16:06:09
86.   Eric Stephen
Fresno State should kick a FG to cover the 7-point spread.
2008-09-27 16:08:20
87.   Tripon
Fresno State beast UCLA 36-31
2008-09-27 16:09:56
88.   Eric Stephen
If the Dodgers do face the Cubs, Bernie Mac won't be around this time to jinx the series for Chicago. I'm back to wanting to face the Phillies!
2008-09-27 16:10:09
89.   overkill94
87 We covered the spread!
2008-09-27 16:11:40
90.   caseybarker
I guess Bob will be unhappy...

First Oregon State beats USC, then the Dogs beat UCLA. What a weekend this is shaping up to be.

2008-09-27 16:12:53
91.   Tripon
How can anyone dislike Fresno St? They're good enough to join the Pac-10. Heck, Wash. St should give up its membership for Fresno St.
2008-09-27 16:13:02
92.   Eric Stephen
Plus, Notre Dame 38, Purdon't 21.
2008-09-27 16:16:00
93.   overkill94
I finally saw the celebration from Thursday night on Fox right now and wow, that looked like quite a party. Anyone but Manny would have been chastised for pouring champagne in the reporter's hair (who was a hot female), but of course he got away with it. The kids especially looked like they were having a great time.
2008-09-27 16:16:40
94.   overkill94
91 The basketball aspect of that statement begs to differ
2008-09-27 16:19:15
95.   Eric Stephen
How can anyone dislike Fresno St?

Anti-raisin bias. Fresno State is a decent team, but I think they are a tad overrated. Has the "anyone, anywhere" scheduling philosophy actually worked for FSU? Sometimes you actually have to win some of those games.

The last time Fresno State won their conference was 1999. The best bowl game they've ever been to was the 2005 Liberty Bowl.

Pat Hill is in the same boat as Charlie Weis, in that they both used a loss against USC to gain favor among college football pundits.

2008-09-27 16:20:16
96.   Jon Weisman
New post coming up top.

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