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Catchers (2): Russell Martin, Danny Ardoin
Infielders (8): James Loney, Blake DeWitt, Angel Berroa, Casey Blake, Nomar Garciaparra, Pablo Ozuna, Jeff Kent, Rafael Furcal
Outfielders (4): Manny Ramirez, Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier, Juan Pierre
Pitchers (11): Derek Lowe, Chad Billingsley, Hiroki Kuroda, Clayton Kershaw, Jonathan Broxton, Takashi Saito, Joe Beimel, Cory Wade, Chan Ho Park, Ramon Troncoso, Greg Maddux
Tony Jackson of the Daily News has some notes, and Josh Rawitch adds that Furcal is currently expected to start. But keep in mind that changes to the roster can still be made as late as Wednesday morning.
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Dodgers used in recent playoff series:
2006: 23
2004: 24
1996: 23
1995: 22
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Update: The Dodgers announced their Game 1 starting lineup:
Furcal, SS
Martin, C
Ramirez, LF
Ethier, RF
Loney, 1B
Kemp, CF
DeWitt, 2B
Blake, 3B
Lowe, P
I'm tempted to yell: VICTORY!
But I know better.
Or for that matter, Berroa do better than Hu?
At any rate, it's a good enough roster to compete in this NLDS, I guess that's all we can ask for. Especially with Raffy now. (fingers crossed)
I can only imagine that Torre wanted to have an extra shortstop just in case Furcal wasn't able to go more than just a few innings...
i would have preferred Hu for that role.
Ozuna plays defense in left field in the ninth inning when the Dodgers are protecting a three-run lead better than Hu.
Most teams, unless it is a blowout, are not using that many pinch-hitters in a game.
Young can also play the outfield and infield not well.
Proctor is pitching pretty well right now, personally I'd have chosen him and MacDonald instead of Troncoso and Park
The Cubs have scored 6.1 runs/gm when Dempster starts at home (5.4 in other home games).
I think the key for the Dodgers will be to score early and to have Dempster pitch from behind for a change. Oh yeah, and Lowe throwing a shutout would be super.
Anyone care to make out a game 1 lineup?
Torre's not going to double-switch out any of Ethier/Kemp/Manny.
My guess:
SS Furcal
C Martin
LF Manny
RF Ethier
3B Blake
1B Loney
CF Kemp
2B DeWitt
P Lowe
Furcal
Martin
Manny
Ethier
Blake
Loney
Blake
Kemp
DeWitt
Lowe
Furcall SS
Kemp CF
Ethier RF
Manny LF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
Martin C
DeWitt 2B
Lowe P
ERA:
Dempster 2.96
Zambrano 3.91
WHIP:
D 1.21
Z 1.29
K/9:
D 8.14
Z 6.2
K/BB
D 2.46
Z 1.81
SS Furcal
RF Ethier
LF Manny
2b Kent
3b Blake
C Martin
1b Loney
CF Kemp
P Lowe
I've got a feeling Kent will demand to start. It also wouldnt surprise me to see Nomar playing 1st.
Except I forgot to include an extra spot for CB's beard. :)
You dare to jinx the homerless streak? :)
Also, Edmunds and Maddox joing the Osuna/Stultz club!
So based on one play we have decided he is a butcher in LF? Maybe he is but I'd say none of us have any idea about his capability to play the outfield.
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Kent will start sometime this series but it won't be Wednesday with Lowe on the mound.
That was the craziest sports press conference I have ever seen.
True, he was horrid against LHP this year.
I don't think they name MVPs for each division series, except in a more informal "player of the game" on the screen type way.
I can't even put it into words. Said how Lane lost Arkansas job which he wanted, it's Lane's fault for Deangelo and Walker being on team, Kiffin did not want Jamarcus, all kinds of good stuff lol.
Reporters: Why do you continue to burn bridges and make rash decisions.
Al: I am not the one you're looking for.
Announced by the Dodgers:
Furcal, SS
Martin, C
Ramirez, LF
Ethier, RF
Loney, 1B
Kemp, CF
DeWitt, 2B
Blake, 3B
Lowe, P
I agree Jon.Park = Left-handed hitters go to heaven
The last time they played each other, here is the lineup that the Dodgers had.
Pierre LF
Ethier RF
Kent 2B
Martin C
Loney 1B
Kemp CF
DeWitt 3B
Berroa SS
Penny P
Jim Edmonds
Kosuke Fukudome
Mike Fontenot
Daryle Ward
Felix Pie
Micah Hoffpauir
Eric Patterson
Koyie Hill (switch hitter)
Not exactly a murderer's row there. We'll be fine with only Biemel, and Kershaw as left handers in the bullpen. Also, Scott Proctor throws Right handed.
True but 7 out of 8 have an OPS > 772 and the one guy who doesn't make the cut was putting up a 872 OPS in Sept.
2 under .750.
It's tempting to think of Kemp/Martin/Loney as good hitters, but in reality, they're only slightly better than average as a group.
Not that that's necessarily bad, given Furcal/Manny/Ethier.
http://www.insidesocal.com/dodgers/2008/09/sounds-like-the.html
"Both Ned and Joe indicated that they are still working through some things with the roster, and Joe specifically mentioned pitching. It's probably that last spot that initially went to Troncoso. My guess is they might be reconsidering that and thinking of giving it to Proctor or McDonald. "
4.63 RPG
https://griddle.baseballtoaster.com/archives/1145988.html
ethier,
ramierez,
blake,
kemp,
martin,
loney,
dewitt,
P
D. Hernandez who followed basically every dodger game this season makes a (sadly) strong argument the Dodgers should keep Ned. Almost convinced me...
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/dodgers/la-sp-colletti1-2008oct01,0,4548632.story?track=rss
Yet, you were a 4. Trying to talk yourself into feeling more optimistic?
The Dodgers don't have a threesome like Soriano, Lee and A. Ramirez or even a fivesome when you add Soto and Edmonds.
But there are no black holes in the lineup that is slated to start in less than 24 hours. I am happy about that.
He can get the tag of "clutchiest clutch to ever clutch." with a few good starts.
7: Billingsley
9: Lowe
19: Kuroda
That's good.
1. Bob Costas suggesting that the Dodgers quite possibly have the the weakest hitting team in NLDS history.
2. Bobby Ferrin volunteering for target practice duty while singing `Don't Worry, be Happy'.
I'm a solid 7 on the confidence scale - but I was real confident when we played the Mets, too. However, a Lowe, Bills, Kuroda rotation looks mighty fine, don't it?
3. Manny pulls both hamstrings
Don't forget the rhyming blue blockers guy in the parking lot rapping about the Dodgers.
Carlos Santana was rated the number two prospect in the Cal League by BA several days ago. 5 years ago Casey Kotchman and Erwin Santana were one and two.
I blame all of this on the catcher who broke LaRoche's wrist. And Nomar. And Furcal. And Abreu. I don't blame Ned, he did what he needed to do to get us a 3rd baseman.
Did not show any signs of being sick during his press conference.
Makes sense, I guess. Although it could also be a way to hide Blake's back problems.
Man, how many press conferences are ya gonna subject yourself to today? ;-)
I've seen parts of 5.
Baseball Ref has the Cubs only winning 85 games. Kinda amusing.
ERA+
Billingsley 135 (same as Oswalt; only Webb has been better)
Zambrano 126
Win %
Zambrano .649 (48-26)
Billingsley .648 (35-19)
BB/9
Billingsley 4.15
Zambrano 4.19
K/9
Billingsley 8.25
Zambrano 7.52
same as Oswalt; only Webb has been better in the NL
We know how good he is, hopefully the rest of the baseball world will find out on Thursday Night.
I don't think it's too much to ask for Billingsley to pitch a 27 K perfect game in each start. Anything less and I will be crushed.
http://www.insidesocal.com/dodgers/
Canuck had Watt at number 20 headed into 2008. I'm sure he moved up into the 10-15 range. I doubt if Perez was in the top 20. He will be upset even if he is relieved it wasn't what he had been fearing.
I had Watt as my 10th pitcher headed into 2008. I expect he would been 5-8 after this season. McDonald, Elbert, Withrow, Lindblom for sure a head of him. I'm unhappy they got Watt considering the leverage we had.
Can you point me to the link of Canucks top 20 that he did several weeks ago?
01. Scott Elbert, LHP
02. Andrew Lambo, OF
03. Ivan DeJesus, Jr. SS
04. James McDonald, RHP
05. Ethan Martin, RHP
06. Josh Lindblom, RHP
07. Austin Gallagher, 3B
08. Josh Bell, 3B
09. Chris Withrow, RHP
10. Ramon Troncoso, RHP
11. Michael Watt, LHP
12. Nathan Eovaldi, RHP
13. Steve Johnson, RHP
14. Geison Aguasviva, LHP
15. James Adkins, LHP
16. Xavier Paul, OF
17. Jon Michael Redding, RHP
18. Josh Wall, RHP
19. Tony Delmonico, 2B
20. Jesus Castillo, RHP
21. Devaris Strange-Gordon, SS
22. Justin Miller, RHP
23. Pedro Baez, 3B
24. Jaime Pedroza, SS
25. Tim Sexton, RHP
26. Matt Sartor, RHP
27. Elisaul Pimentel, RHP
28. Victor Garate, LHP
29. Miguel Sanfler, LHP
30. Francisco Felix, RHP
31. Cole St. Clair, LHP
32. Kyle Russell, OF
Thanks
*Gordon failed to qualify academically at Seminole (Fla.) Community College and couldn't play this spring, but the Dodgers drafted him in the fourth round anyway. Once he stepped onto the field in the Pioneer League, it was apparent why.
The son of Phillies righthander Tom Gordon, Gordon has outstanding athleticism and 65 speed on the 20-80 scouting scale. He's extremely skinny with wide shoulders, so he has plenty of room to add strength to his wiry frame. Despite his slender build, he swings the bat with surprising authority and drives balls to the gaps.
With excellent range and good first-step quickness, Gordon has the tools to stick at shortstop. Some of the rust from not getting live game action this spring showed, as he made 28 errors in 60 games, but the miscues should be correctable once he learns to play more under control.*
And the chat:
* ScottAz from Phx, AZ asks:
I haven't heard much about Flash Gordon's kid. Who does he most closely resemble in the Bigs?
A:
Ben Badler: Understandable that you haven't heard much, given that he didn't play this spring because he couldn't qualify academically for his junior college. Give a lot of credit to the Dodgers for picking up Gordon in the 4th round though. There were some scouts who raised an eyebrow when LA picked him that high, especially since there were scouts in that area who didn't see him even in workouts this year. But he's an outstanding athleticism and speed, so he has the tools to be a good shortstop once he gets himself more under control. Who does he closely resemble? No one, not right now. He weighs 150, maybe 155 pounds. He's just weak, and I don't mean that in a bad way, because he's just going to fill out his frame naturally and get stronger. If they re-did the draft today, I don't think he'd get past the third round again.*
A lot sooner than I have to wait for Flight of the Conchords and Lost.
That guy lives in New York now. I've seen him in Times Square rapping for donations from the tourists.
131 Next time I see him, I'm gonna ask him if he's still a Dodger fan.
128 Yeah, but more just a fan of the entire cast of that show.
130 The Rhymenoceros?
How many pitchers had a plus 5.00 ERA with a 1.15 WHIP?
The small victories
The cankers and medallions
>>
They keep me thinking
That someday
I might beat you
But I'll just keep my mouth shut
It shouldn't bother me
But it does
I'm just speaking from experience from my days when I was held captive by the Bader-Meinhoff Gang.
I won't argue that Stults would have been just as effective and that the price was to high. That said I enjoyed having Maddux on the team during this run.
Mission Accomplished?
http://tinyurl.com/4mmxkl
What is up with these ex ballplayers. Can't a slugger do lousy analysis. What is Palmiero doing these days? Now that would be fun.
He went to my high school (Capistrano Valley in Mission Viejo) and I made a point of meeting him during spring training. We talked for a long time and he said that the day the Dodgers drafted him was the best day of his life. At least if he makes it to the Majors with San Diego he'll stay close to home.
>>"It's not about individual stuff. It's about having the team win," Sweeney said. "Unfortunately, I made this decision easy. {{got that right! --ed.}} That's why I'm upset. It's disappointing for the right reason. Anyone with a competitive feeling inside that's worked hard to get to this point would be. But it's what we've got to do."<<
He wouldn't know anyone's name and would just talk about himself.
A little like Joe Morgan, except he talks about his Reds team.
Henderson: I once played with a guy in San Diego, Los Angeles, Oakland, Toranto, New York, Boston, and Anaheim who stole a lot of bases.
Lowe comments on Lou.
I also wanted to say that even though Edwin Jackson's peripherals weren't great and his September performances agains the Yankees were terrible, he deserved to make that roster. Even if he wouldn't have pitched, he deserved to make that roster. He must be absolutely devastated right now, and I cant blame him. I feel really really badly for him. This probably means that he's spent his last day as a Ray.
Also, Joe might as well have out me on the roster instead of Ozuna. Dude brings nothing to the team.
"put me", not "out me". Oops.
LAD vs PHI: 10/6, 7:10 ET
oooooo-eeeeeeee-oooooooooo!
I love that show! I saw them here at the Granada in Santa Barbara. What a hoot! Now, what's this about a TV show?
What is that?
http://www.npr.org/programs/waitwait/
(Love the lineup!)
If Furcal went down in one game, he could be replaced by Ozuna on the roster before the next game.
Even under the bizarro nightmare scenario of Furcal, Kent and Garciaparra all going down in the same game, you could move Blake to short, Martin to third and Ardoin behind the plate. Then you don't have an emergency catcher if Ardoin goes down, but at this point we're in sci-fi territory.
Hence, Ozuna should not be on the roster. The slot should go to Young.
You care nothing about my recurring nightmare.
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I can easily defend myself with my bowling ball.
I'm not in love with Ozuna, and I love the idea of working DY into a solid fourth/fifth outfielder--but he wasn't exactly hitting the snot out of the ball as a pinch hitter either, nor should he expect to with the little love he got. If DY got the work in he probably should have over one Mark Sweeney, I could see the case, but as it is, DY is a defensively pigeon holed player without a lot of speed who has seven points of OPS+ over Ozuna.
It's not a lovely situation, but crying so much foul over the 25th guy doesn't add up.
Less than 21 hours before Dempster vs. Furcal.
Now go get swept by the Rays!
For SS and 2nd, you could put in Nomar and Kent, but they might hit. I hope you would never put in Berroa or Ozuna. What do you call a replacement who is neither defensive or offensive?
LOL
While watching the Dodger game, you can record all of season 1 of Breaking Bad. AMC is showing a marathon starting tomorrow at 5pm.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-01-cubs-bits-chicagooct01,0,1230559.story
Pie is a +7 in 621 career innings in CF, a little less than half a full season.
If he were to keep that up over a full season, he'd rate in the middle of the top 10 in MLB defensively.
All I can say is: wow. I mean: wow.
That didn't even show the half of it.
I thought it was funny... although not as funny as Big Bang Theory which preceded it.
Oh, and, sorry Twins!
I just saw the A.J. Pierzynski play at the plate. Man, I don't like that guy. I'm not sure of the full lineup on my all hated team, but I know A.J. is the catcher, and Eric Byrnes is in LF.
http://tinyurl.com/4n2nu7
Molly, is it at least a shirt with the cool "mb" glove Brewer logo? I predict less peltings with that shirt.
Ron Darling and the corpse of Dick Stockton.
218 Ah thanks! I shall watch that right now, and chuckle quietly to myself.
SportsNation Jonah Keri: (9:14 PM ET ) Yes he is.
Er, wow. I love Martin, but Mauer is light years ahead of Martin as a player.
http://www.techbanyan.com/1904/al-davis-press-conference/
SportsNation Jonah Keri: (9:19 PM ET ) Manny-Ethier?
For this season got to go with Pujols/Ludwick.
Nevermind, that is not the whole thing. Having trouble finding that.
Here you go:
May not be all of it, but it is a good amount.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b43076
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Cubs fans on BleedCubbieBlue:
>>Am I biased or does anyone... have problems taking the numbers of the Dodgers really seriously?
Of course they have good ERA's, they play in the NL West where everyone is kinda stinky.
Not that I'm taking them lightly, but the numbers seem misleading to me.>They are... Oh yeah...and look at who they actally played the last month.<<
Fine. Whatever.
lol do you just go to that website to get irritated?
Actually, many of the people there are cool enough, just like any sports blog. There's one Dodger fan who posts there, too. I just use the irritating stuff as more motivation. Er, not that I'm playing in the series and that matters all that much...
I saw dozens of people wearing "Tony Homo" shirts and yelling horrible, vulgar things. Even for someone who has been to a half-dozen Cal/Stanford and USC/UCLA football games, it was really a low.
The pummeling the home team was dishing out is probably what kept the locals from releasing any aggression my way.
That was the only Dodger-related gear I was wearing. Right.
I just kinda got over a cold and now i have a bit of pain and pressure in my cheek eye tooth and head area on the right side of my face.
web md seemed to think i might have lime disease lol..but i'd like to think its not that
A lot.
Ozuna over Young?
Tonsco over Proctor?
Can someone help explain it to me?
Thanks!
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