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Mutts
2008-10-02 16:00
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

With the winningest teams in the American League and National League both losing their playoff openers Wednesday (and needing to win three out of four to stay alive), there's been the usual talk about how unfair postseason baseball is.

And it's true. You do play 162 games to get home-field advantage, and you can lose that advantage in one night. You can be the best for six months, and then gone in four days. The top regular season teams often don't win the World Series.

But that's the sport. Just like a No. 1 seed can go out early in March Madness. Just like an undefeated team can lose the Super Bowl to a multi-defeated team.

Since 1903, the major-league baseball regular season has existed as a ticket to the postseason tournament. And whether that postseason tournament has two, four or eight teams, that has always been what you need to win in order to be crowned champion.

It does require a certain amount of luck and good timing to go with your talent, but it's not as if some bait-and-switch is being pulled. We all know the rules going in.

This could easily become a moot point within a few days, of course. But the goal is get to the postseason, and then win the postseason. Having the best record in the regular season is a means to that end, but not the only means. Baseball has made a pact to reward the team that wins the October showdowns, regardless of that team's pedigree - even if it's a mutt. Whoever is the 2008 World Series champion will have nothing to apologize for.

That being said, in theory it doesn't have to be this way. What do you think? What changes would you make to baseball's postseason? Would you want to make it longer - perhaps cutting from the regular season to keep us out of November? Want to do away with the playoffs entirely, and go with one league, 30 teams? Or is it better to leave well enough alone?

* * *

Bill Simmons of ESPN.com offers this lengthy, personal counterpoint to the controversy surrounding Manny Ramirez's departure from Boston. Set aside some time for it ...

* * *

Dodgers at Cubs, 6:30 p.m.

Comments (1213)
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2008-10-02 16:07:43
1.   underdog
Woof!

I wouldn't make any changes to the format at all.

And I remember when only two teams from each league made the post-season. Talk about a lot of sad Octobers for most fans. What're they gonna do, give the top seeded teams 3 straight games at home? Stretch the NLDS to 7 games and push everything well into November? Nah, this is about as fair as it gets.

2008-10-02 16:08:26
2.   Jim Hitchcock
Stupid pet tricks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D85yrIgA4Nk

2008-10-02 16:09:19
3.   Tripon
I'd like to see seven games in the first round.

And eventually expand the playoffs to 16 teams, and 4 rounds of playoffs, with six spots guaranteed for division winners, and the 12 spots open to teams from both leagues. Are the Blue Jays, and Yankees really that much better than any NL team not named the Cubs this year? Lets actually prove it in playoff series instead of using that cliche of AL teams are infinitely superior over NL teams. Of course this'll never happen, so I'll just take expanding the first round to seven games.

2008-10-02 16:15:43
4.   MollyKnight
Since I got LAT'd

I really wasn't aware of how alive and well homophobia is in this country until yesterday. Neil literally got called every derogatory name synonymous with 'gay' in the book, and many, many times over.

And it always came from men. Women would yell things like "Brewers suck" or "Go home" but not one woman speculated loudly about Neil's sexuality.

2008-10-02 16:19:36
5.   Kevin Lewis
4

That makes me sad

2008-10-02 16:21:51
6.   underdog
4 Nods head sadly.

It's particularly glaringly shocking, though, when one is in San Francisco and hearing it. (Though again I don't think these guys exactly represented the city.) But it's scary and depressing when you hear it anywhere. Sorry he had to deal with that.

2008-10-02 16:21:51
7.   KG16
I wouldn't mind the division series being a best of 7 match up. I wouldn't cut games though. I'd have double headers on Labor Day, 4th of July, and Memorial Day - even if they are the day/night variety. Ultimately, I don't have a problem with the playoffs. I don't see it as a crap shoot, and instead see it as a competition of skill, talent, and strategy. Luck, as they say, is when preparation meets opportunity.

My windmill is more the unbalanced schedule than anything. I'd rather have a balanced schedule and no interleague play. Not really sure how the Cubs and Brewers getting to play extra games against the Reds, Astros, and Pirates really is.

2008-10-02 16:22:00
8.   trainwreck
4
Don't step foot on a high-school campus.
2008-10-02 16:23:31
9.   trainwreck
6
Grown up in Bay Area practically my whole life and everyone uses those insults. It's just a part of our culture.
2008-10-02 16:24:09
10.   blue22
I could handle re-seeding based on record. If you're going to disallow the WC and top-seed playing each other if they come from the same division (blatant Red Sox/Yankees pandering, but hey), why not just stack rank them 1-4, and go 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3?

Also, home field should be determined by record and not division winner status. I don't think LA should get homefield against Milwaukee next round (yeah right) just because LA played in a crummy division.

2008-10-02 16:24:42
11.   Branch Rickey
Mark me down for 7 games in first round. If 154 isn't enough to decide who belongs in the Playoffs, then 5 REALLY isn't enough to decide who can advance.
2008-10-02 16:24:49
12.   LAT
Wouldn't that just make Philly homophobic, not the whole country?
2008-10-02 16:26:07
13.   trainwreck
12
Young people in general.

I can't even tell you about how often people use the N word.

2008-10-02 16:27:29
14.   Kevin Lewis
Molly,

for me it is the same with racism in this country. I grew up in the LA area, and I know it is far from perfect, but I have become used to a pretty diverse population around me. I grew up pretty naive about racism in general

2008-10-02 16:29:21
15.   Humma Kavula
3 16 teams? Good lord, this isn't hockey.

Part of what I like about baseball's postseason is that it generally does a good job of weeding out the mediocre teams. Not a perfect job -- this year, the Dodgers get the booby prize, but in past years, it's been the Padres, the Cardinals... any number of teams that have been barely above average.

This is heresy, I know, but there's an argument that the NL would be better represented if we were out of it and the Mets were in it -- that is, if the four best records in the NL went to the postseason. Same thing in the AL -- cut the White Sox, add the Yankees, and maybe, maybe, the AL is better represented.

But we don't just care about record when we make up the postseason schedules. Baseball has decided that geography should count for something, and that's probably a good idea. If not, it could happen that, just by chance, there would be no team from the entire western US in the playoffs. That's not good for the sport, so setting up a system that requires each region to be represented is probably a good idea.

So I'd change nothing.

2008-10-02 16:29:24
16.   dzzrtRatt
Post-season records don't count toward a player's season or lifetime stats. The home run totals for Ruth, Aaron and Bonds don't include any of their postseason home runs. And that's fine. It's a separate deal.

To me, the postseason is a kind of exhibition season, the closed parenthesis to spring training. The season itself is what's real. Winning your division is the truest achievement, the best evidence of superiority. There should be some award given in each division for the team that had the best record, and another award for the team that had the best record in the league.

By including the Wild Card team on equal terms with at least one division winner, the post-season loses all claim to the role of determining a champion. The 2002 World Series was a matchup of two teams that couldn't win their divisions. It was a fun series between two good teams, but how could either of them have been considered "champions" under the circumstances?

There's no fixing it unless MLB went to four divisions or back to two. And there's probably no reason to fix it. It's fine the way it is. But it's a tournament. When the Dodgers win their division, that's the pinnacle in my book. The subsequent games are a kind of reward to the fans bestowed after having reached that pinnacle.

2008-10-02 16:30:16
17.   Eric Stephen
4
That's really sad. In San Diego, there is usually limited verbal insults if I wear Dodger gear, but it's rarely that bad.

Earlier this year, though, as I was walking to the Convention Center to my car, one fan took umbrage to my Chad jersey by continually shouting "Billings-gay". He kept yelling it, trying to get my attention, but I never turned around. It was not creativity at its finest moment, that's for sure.

2008-10-02 16:32:55
19.   Humma Kavula
11 Sure it is, for the very reason that Jon gets at in his post.

The playoffs don't determine which team is best. The playoffs determine which team gets to call itself the Champion.

If you want to ensure that the best team is the Champion, it's very easy. Set up a balanced schedule, cancel the postseason, and call the team with the best record the Champ.

But we don't do that, because the playoffs are fun. Champion is just a title (or a Title) -- maybe the only one that matters, since nobody cares who won the regular season... but just a title. Once you get to the postseason, no team has more of a right to that title than any other until the World Series is over.

2008-10-02 16:33:13
20.   seesdifferent
Someone needs to tell Dale Sveum that polite discourse requires that one not begin every sentence with the interjection "Obviously...."

Of course, it's also possible that Sveum is just a sore loser.

2008-10-02 16:34:42
21.   TheDictator
Does anyone know if the game is on NASN tonight? I don't have cable and enjoyed watching the game on the internet for free.
2008-10-02 16:34:45
22.   KG16
19 - you could do away with divisions in each league, balance the schedule and go old school and the team with the best record in each league is the champ and they play each other in the World Series. But a lot of people would miss the play offs.
2008-10-02 16:35:14
23.   sanchez101
I think the main problem with MLB's post-season is that it's just too random, too often. The best team doesn't win often enough to really think of the "World Series Champions" and "Best Team in Baseball" as synonyms. The NFL is a little better, but the NBA is easily the best at this. Also, how interesting are upsets when they happen so often?

I would eliminate the wild card, go to two division leagues where the division champs each played in a League Championship Series (like they did before the wild card). But I would have each of the three series (NLCS, ALCS, WS) be a nine-game series - with more games the better team wins more often - also I'd try to schedule the games as closely together as possible to avoid teams being able to rely heavily on 2-3 starting pitchers - depth should matter.

2008-10-02 16:36:08
24.   MollyKnight
Yeah, I think the problem is that I just wasn't expecting it. I was ready for some really clever insults, and I was disappointed. The two funniest comments came from the same guy. When we were picking up our tickets he yelled at Neil: "Your team sucks. Your city sucks. Your starting pitcher today sucks. And your hair sucks." Haha.

Then he came back later and yelled "Who wears pinstriped uniform pants with a solid colored shirt?! This is an outrage!"

I shook that man's hand.

2008-10-02 16:37:30
25.   dzzrtRatt
Every-time the Giants come to Dodger Stadium, anyone in orange and black is subjected to homophobic slurs. Embarrassing.

I have been to at least 30 Dodger/Giant games at Dodger Stadium in my lifetime and I can honestly say I've never heard a homophobic slur aimed at any Giant fan. I've seen drunken abusive behavior, but not specifically that kind of slur.

2008-10-02 16:38:44
26.   Jon Weisman
18, edited -

18. Lexinthedena
Every-time the Giants come to Dodger Stadium, anyone in orange and black is subjected to homophobic slurs. Embarrassing.

2008-10-02 16:38:59
27.   Tripon
22 And then contract about 15 teams. Really, you can't have a best team from each league only goes to the postseason when there's 30 teams in the MLB.
2008-10-02 16:40:13
28.   KG16
27 - yeah, I know. I really don't mind the current format. Like I said, my windmill is the unbalanced schedule and interleague play.
2008-10-02 16:40:50
29.   Humma Kavula
23 I think the main problem with MLB's post-season is that it's just too random, too often.

I appreciate this point, so I'm not trying to be flip when I say this:

That's baseball.

Your system would certainly make certain that better teams make the postseason -- by necessity, since fewer teams would make the postseason. And it would bring back the classic pennant race, which would be fun.

But we'd lose a number of things:

1) wild card races, which have been real and fun.
2) a whole round of playoffs. also fun.
3) the chance to expand the sport's popularity by giving more teams (and thus more fans) a chance to be emotionally invested in the postseason.

Just something to consider.

2008-10-02 16:41:20
30.   Ember Nickel
I'd be up for scrapping interleague play and making the All-Star break last a week. You could have interleague exhibition games then...crosstown rivalries and stuff?

Just a random idea.

2008-10-02 16:44:36
31.   mwhite06
28 I tried to think about this the other day. If MLB went back to a balanced schedule and eliminated the wild card, it would have to revert to just an NL West and NL East. I was wondering what the NL West would look like in order to keep the rivalries intact. I figured it would be the NL West plus Houston, Cincinatti and Milwaukee, even though that would mean Chicago and Milwaukee are roughly 90 miles away from each other and in different divisions.
2008-10-02 16:46:16
32.   Humma Kavula
31 It wouldn't have to revert to two divisions.

It could be that the team with the best record gets a bye to the LCS and that the other two play off for the right to face them.

But I don't know that this is an improvement. Probably not.

2008-10-02 16:48:19
33.   trainwreck
I really wish the Dodger game was the 3:00 clock game. My friends are having a Vice Presidential debate drinking game tonight.

I have to figure out how to balance both.

2008-10-02 16:49:17
34.   Kevin Lewis
21

This link is working for me right now

http://tinyurl.com/rays-sox

Although it is running through WMV or Quicktime

2008-10-02 16:49:39
35.   Kevin Lewis
33

rules?

2008-10-02 16:51:03
36.   Tripon
4 division within each league, 4 teams within each division. Expand with two more teams in the AL, putting a team in Portland, and a team in Mexico City.
2008-10-02 16:51:13
37.   trainwreck
35
I am not sure. But I am guessing when a certain candidate (you can guess which one) says certain words we have to drink. But that is just my assumption, they actually seem to have rules and plans set up for this.
2008-10-02 16:51:58
38.   Kevin Lewis
37

That could get ugly fast

2008-10-02 16:52:32
39.   Humma Kavula
36 The part of me that digs chaos would loooooove a team in Mexico City.

Denver elevation: 5,280 feet

Mexico City elevation: 7,349 feet

2008-10-02 16:52:36
40.   mwhite06
32 I think a bye would hurt in baseball. In the last two years (yes I know very small sample size) the two teams who mowed down their respective leagues (Colorado and Detroit) had to wait an extended period of time for their opponent and were subsequently eliminated handily in the Series. And its not simply a matter of losing momentum, baseball is a game set up so that the only days off are Mondays and Thursdays for 6 straight months; the idea of introducing a full week off after that would (in my opinion) be a detriment to overcome.
2008-10-02 16:52:52
41.   Deuces are Wild
This is my suggestion - stay with me, as it is sort of a double-elimination format:
- Same as now, 4 teams advance. Three Division winners are seeded 1-3 and the Wild Card #4.
- Round 1: Best 2 out of 3 (all games at the top seed), for instance, this year it would be Dodgers at Phillies; Brewers at Cubs.
- Round 2: Best 2 out of 3 (all games at the high seed). Both Round 1 winners play against each other; both round 1 losers play against each other. Let's say the Dodgers and Cubs win round 1, round 2 would be Dodgers at Cubs and Brewers at Phillies.
- The team that wins both rounds advances to a best-of-5 LCS (2-2-1 format starting at home) and gets a 3-day bye; the teams that go 1-1 in the first 2 rounds play each other in round 3 (best 2 out of 3 at high seed). Let's say the Dodgers beat the Cubs in round 2 and the Phillies beat the Brewers. Dodgers await the round 3 winner to start the LCS at Dodger Stadium. At this point only the team that lost both series is gone.
- LCS: let's say the Phillies beat the Cubs. The Phillies and Dodgers would play a best-of-five series; winner goes to the World Series. Dodgers would be rewarded for winning the first 2 series with a rested staff and could set-up their rotation.

There it is. To advance to the WS, a team would need to win 2+2+3=7 games, just like now. It's fair because the top seed would play two mini-series at home, and would need to lose them both for a quick exit. Pitchers would have to be used like the regular season, since there would only be one off-day between 3-game series. You could even lose a mini-series and survive.

2008-10-02 16:53:16
42.   sanchez101
29. Those are legit points. I just think its a blancing act because baseball is so random we want to avoid that randomness by playing as many games as possible. Basically I think the Cards winning two years ago with a barely .500 record to be a big problem; they simply weren't the best team in baseball.

I would be open to keeping the system the way it is now, with the Wild Cards, but expanding the length of the series. I'd be willing to shorten the Regular Season by 10-15 games, even 20, if the Playoff series could be expanded to 7-9-9 or even 9-9-9. That way the playoffs could be seen as a 'second season' for the legit clubs.

2008-10-02 16:53:43
43.   trainwreck
38
I do know I have to bring a playing card with me or something.

Yes, it could. I guess everyone is practicing for Oktoberfest this weekend.

2008-10-02 16:54:32
44.   KG16
31 - it wouldn't really effect the rivalries. Milwaukee and Chicago would play each other about 10 times a season in an unbalanced schedule.

What I really don't like about the wild card right now is that you're in a race with teams that are playing different schedules than you are. If you're the Dodgers or D'Backs, you're facing the tough pitching of the NL West and the AL East. While the Brewers get the Reds, Astros, Cards, and Pirates, and the AL West.

2008-10-02 16:54:46
45.   Humma Kavula
40 Is that hurt outweighed by the fact that you get to go to the LCS without having to play your way into it?

I don't know the answer to that question.

I think there are a lot of reasons why my suggestion in 32 is a bad idea.

2008-10-02 16:55:01
46.   MC Safety
I can't describe how geeked I am for My Bloody Valentine tonight.

Hopefully that ESPN update thingy someone mentioned a while back works, as I will be missing pretty much the entire game.

2008-10-02 16:55:03
47.   LAT
35. Every time a candidate, any candidate, says something stupid you do a shot. I predict the game will last about 10 mins before someone throws up.
2008-10-02 16:55:42
48.   DaDoughboy
30.
Definitely agree with eliminating interleague play (I mean, it is entertaining to see pitchers like Jered Weaver and Chen-Mien Wang hit and all). Take these extra games, start the postseason early and make the LDS 7 games, and LCS/WS 9 games.
2008-10-02 16:55:42
49.   Eric Stephen
36
In my English class in senior year of high school, I wrote a proposal to change the baseball schedule similar to that. I know I had eight 4-team divisions, and I believe the schedule breakdown was as such:

22 games vs. each intradivisional opponent (3) = 66 games
6 games vs. each intraleague opponent not in division (12) = 72 games
6 games vs. each interleague opponent (4) = 24 games

I had the interleague rotating divisions every year. The key was every four-team pocket that was fighting for the same playoff spot played the same schedule.

2008-10-02 16:56:25
50.   DaDoughboy
30.
Definitely agree with eliminating interleague play (I mean, it is entertaining to see pitchers like Jered Weaver and Chen-Mien Wang hit and all). Take these extra games, start the postseason early and make the LDS 7 games, and LCS/WS 9 games.
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2008-10-02 16:57:10
51.   KG16
41 - sounds like the College World Series.

36 - I just can't see a team in Mexico. Portland, New Orleans, and Vegas would be more likely targets, in my mind.

2008-10-02 16:58:38
52.   trainwreck
47
That's like when people do the century club. It is destined to end bad.
2008-10-02 16:58:53
53.   MollyKnight
I must say I am enjoying this place being a politics-free zone. 'Cause as much as I am fired up about the candidate I am supporting, it's nice to know I can go somewhere and get a break from all of it.
2008-10-02 16:59:21
54.   Deuces are Wild
51 It does sound like the College WS, but it's 2 out of 3 to advance, not just a lucky day.
2008-10-02 16:59:45
55.   ToyCannon
Get rid of the AL and NL designations.

Four New Leagues would be defined by baseball earned income and only the winner of each league would participate in the playoffs. Each year these leagues would be redefined based on the previous years income.

Every game of course would be played with an announced active 25 person roster with a taxi club of 5 players.

All Playoff series would be 4/7 using 2/3/2 format.

Fans would get to vote for who would call the games.

Fox would not be allowed to televise playoff games.

Frank Calindo would not be allowed to ever show up in another postseason commercial

2008-10-02 17:00:02
56.   Tripon
I like interleauge, and feel that every team should benefit from the ticket proceeds the Yankees can bring. A team like Pittsburgh would love to see the Red Sox, or the Yankees have a home series at PNC park. It would mean a sold out stadium even if its filled with drunken New Yorkers.
2008-10-02 17:00:20
57.   Jim Hitchcock
47 And if Sarah Palin plays `Cross-Eyed Mary'
on her flute, everybody has to do triple shots.
2008-10-02 17:00:32
58.   mwhite06
53 Completely agree. I dont have to worry about this place erupting into political attacks at each other.
2008-10-02 17:00:50
59.   DaDoughboy
52.
Uggh. And a single shot of beer every minute for 100 minutes sounds so easy too...Until about the 70 minute mark that is..I actually think they had a major for drinking games at UCSB.
2008-10-02 17:01:00
60.   Tripon
Every post season Dodgers win, we get to punch Frank Caliendo in the face.

If the Cubs win, Cubs fans are able to kick Frank in the groin.

2008-10-02 17:01:54
61.   MollyKnight
52- I saw three people puke through their noses while attempting to join the Century Club in college. That kind of imagery sticks with you
2008-10-02 17:04:07
62.   Humma Kavula
61 That's a Rule 13 violation. Or it should be.
2008-10-02 17:04:58
63.   Ember Nickel
41 Not sure I like the wild card having to play possibly all their games on the road. Don't think I would if I was a home fan...

Cool idea though.

2008-10-02 17:05:19
64.   DaDoughboy
62.
No discussing of bodily fluids on DT.

Done and done.

2008-10-02 17:05:41
65.   Eric Stephen
61
The century club seems more physically impossible to accomplish than the gallon of milk stunt.

Speaking of that, Molly if you cover the Dodgers if they make the NLCS can you find out the whereabouts/status of Brad Penny? Did he clear out his locker upon being shut down last week? Inquiring minds want to know.

2008-10-02 17:07:12
66.   Branch Rickey
19 I'm down with this and with the theme of Jon's post. I get that it is what it is and I accept what it isn't. But if the first round was 7 games instead of 5 it would FEEL a little less random. And in the end, it's entertainment so it's all about how it feels. The Playoffs are the least accurate series and far and away the most fun.
Too many games and they lose the rush. Too few and they lose validity and therefore some of the rush. To me, 7 is the happy medium.
2008-10-02 17:07:29
67.   bhsportsguy
61 Did you avoid the Cubs fan today (baseball writer).
2008-10-02 17:07:40
68.   Humma Kavula
65 I see your gallon of milk and raise you fifty eggs.
2008-10-02 17:07:40
69.   Deuces are Wild
63 That's what I actually like about it. A Wild Card would need to win 2 out of 3 series on the road to be rewarded with home games in the LCS. Heck, if they win the first 2 series on the road they would have home field advantage during the LCS
2008-10-02 17:07:54
70.   Ken Noe
0 Eliminate interleague, eliminate the All-Star game as a determinant of home field advantage, go back to 154 games, force the Brewers back into the AL for some balance, play half the games during the day, ban Joe Buck.

8 Or a college campus.

2008-10-02 17:08:18
71.   trainwreck
59
Seriously.
2008-10-02 17:08:43
72.   Gagne55
64 That's the unspoken rule 13?
2008-10-02 17:08:47
73.   Humma Kavula
66 Fair enough.
2008-10-02 17:08:50
74.   DaDoughboy
61.
There are tales of coeds successfully joining and then actually going out to enjoy the rest of their night in Isla Vista. I happen to think of these as legend however..kinda like a unicorn.
2008-10-02 17:08:58
75.   bhsportsguy
65 There was a mention last week that Stan Conte believed he was going to continue monitoring Penny's rehab.
2008-10-02 17:09:01
76.   Branch Rickey
I'm on my way out to get some Dog Face Fish Head Punkin Ale or whatever the heck it's called. You guys were probably responsible for at least a few cases worth of sales last night!
2008-10-02 17:09:19
77.   trainwreck
65
The milk gallon chug is literally impossible. The century club can be done. I have seen my friend do it.
2008-10-02 17:10:15
78.   Eric Stephen
72
It's a variation of the true Rule 13. Of course, the mere mention of Rule 13 is a violation of Rule 13, so I've probably said too much. :)

I'll give you a hint: it's a popular phrase used by Bill Simmons I would guess at least 20 times over the years.

2008-10-02 17:10:54
79.   Tripon
The Brewers cannot play defense.
2008-10-02 17:11:34
80.   Humma Kavula
Thief River Falls: you are needed to monitor the situation in Philadelphia.
2008-10-02 17:12:01
81.   Eric Stephen
79
If only that were true on DT Day at Dodger Stadium.
2008-10-02 17:12:28
82.   bhsportsguy
Just a baseball aside, the postseason is built for guys like the Flying Hawaiian to succeed while superstars can't seem to hit the ball out of the infield.
2008-10-02 17:14:19
83.   Eric Stephen
82
while superstars can't seem to hit the ball out of the infield

...unless they pull out their pitching wedge on a curve ball in the dirt :)

*Sorry, underdog. I joined Tony Gwynn in the joke stealing club!

2008-10-02 17:14:49
84.   milkshakeballa
I'm off to go watch the game in my Dodger Maddux jersey at my friends. Be safe all. Go Dodgers!

And America, meet Mr. Bills tonight. 7 IP 8 K 2 BB 1 ER for Bills today

2008-10-02 17:15:07
85.   Bleacher Seats
The first thing I would do is move a team from the NL to the AL to have 15 teams in each league (or add teams to make it 16 in each).

I also don't think playing your opposite league rival is fair - we play the Angels 6 games every year who are normally a very good team while others teams may play a bad rival every year. Also, one year we may play the AL East more games where where NL Cental teams may be playing more games against the AL West.

This is one reason why the final record doesn't matter - because your strenghth of schedule may be very different - very hard or very easy.

I would have two divisions in each league and take the two top teams from each division and go from there (play each team within your division 14 games - play other division teams 8 times). No interleague play. I do like the idea of going back to three or four double headers to shorten the season and extend all playoff games to seven - maybe the World series to nine.

2008-10-02 17:15:19
86.   DaDoughboy
82.
Flying Hawaiian? Is he in any way related to the Flying Tomato?
2008-10-02 17:15:21
87.   trainwreck
I suggest Sam Adams Oktoberfest. Quality beer that is not hard to find.
2008-10-02 17:16:02
88.   Eric Stephen
80
I can't decide if the signal for that should be more visual like the Bat Signal or auditory like the Vikings guy (or the Snickers feasting horn).
2008-10-02 17:16:41
89.   Gagne55
78 Bill Simmons phrase? Simmons is the "Boston teams rule; everyone else sucks" guy. Can't think of any phrase he frequently uses though.
2008-10-02 17:17:26
90.   Jacob Burch
http://tinyurl.com/43wjeh

For those who really want to do some detective work. I remember the day I figured it out. It was a glorious day indeed.

2008-10-02 17:17:32
91.   trainwreck
I just found out the rules to the drinking game. We are playing (candidate's name) bingo. I have to print out a card from the website.
2008-10-02 17:18:10
92.   Humma Kavula
Whoops, I'm wrong. Victorino is currently 3-for-3 with two doubles and a home run. This is not a cycle alert; repeat, this is not a cycle alert.

Stand down if you were ever standing up.

Thief River Falls will continue to monitor the situation.

2008-10-02 17:18:14
93.   Eric Stephen
85
With odd teams in each league there would have to be an interleague series essentially every day.
2008-10-02 17:18:15
94.   DaDoughboy
89.
'yup, these are my readers'?
2008-10-02 17:18:52
95.   Ember Nickel
80 Sorry if I've missed the point, but I haven't seen any triples listed on Gameday...
2008-10-02 17:19:15
96.   Ember Nickel
92 Never mind.
2008-10-02 17:19:40
97.   Eric Stephen
94
Rule 15 is actually "no mention of yup" ever. :)
2008-10-02 17:21:08
98.   Disabled List
76 Dogfish Head Punkin Ale. You won't be disappointed. There are other decent varieties of pumpkin beer out there (Smuttynose has a good one), but that one's the best. I preach the gospel.

To address the main post topic, the change sI would make to the baseball season: eliminate the short series in the NLDS by going to a best-of-7. No more first round bingo.

Next, I would eliminate as many October off-days as possible, including the ridiculous one between Games 4 and 5 of the World Series. Baseball is meant to played daily, it has to have that everyday rhythm.

Also, I would love to see the playoffs end with a week to go before Halloween, no later. So we need to shorten the regular season up a little. Not by eliminating games, but rather by including actual scheduled doubleheaders. Every team should host three doubleheaders over the course of the year. Do it on the holidays: Memorial Day, Fourth of July, and Labor Day. End the regular season on a Wednesday instead of Sunday, and start the playoffs the following Saturday. Done and done.

Eventually, I'd like to see a 32-team, 4-division format, so we can get rid of the wild card. But that would require more expansion, so that should be at least 10 years off, no less.

2008-10-02 17:21:19
99.   Jacob Burch
79 Google says the answer is 29, for what it's worth.
2008-10-02 17:21:37
100.   xaphor
When it comes to handing the trophy to the most deserving team, I think the domestic football (soccer) leagues have it spot on with the champion responsible for baggin the most points (or with a lack of ties, wins) over the season. A balanced schedule is obviously required and more difficult to pull off in baseball than in football, but it could be done if there was enough interest.

To supliment the excitement lost from a lack of a playoffs, tournaments are held over the course of the year with a separate trohpy and rewards going to these winners as well. You get the best of both worlds, crowning a national champion who has decisevely proven it over a course of a long season as well as the drama and upsets associated with a knockout format.

I doubt we see baseball or any American sport go this route as the playoff system has been engrained into your culture. Not that I particularly mind, to be honest, in adition to Jon's point about all the teams and fans knowing the rules and the stakes, there is something inherently ingrained in baseball about unfair advantages. The radically different ballpark dimensions are a perfect example to me of baseball embracing its quirks and unpredictability and I am not so sure that is neccessarily a bad thing.

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2008-10-02 17:22:56
101.   Humma Kavula
95 Yeah, I forgot that he hit a double off of Sabathia. For a moment I thought it was a single. Which would have made this a yellow alert.

Instead, it's just a boy-howdy-is-Victorino-having-a-hell-of-a-day-or-what alert.

2008-10-02 17:23:22
102.   DaDoughboy
97.
Yes! I got it!

Finally off work..good luck tonight all (especially trainwreck...godspeed).

Go Blue!

2008-10-02 17:23:28
103.   Jacob Burch
100 You need to post more, by the way. And teach us all Wiffle Cricket.
2008-10-02 17:25:03
104.   Harold M Johnson
I love the way MLB is set up, it gives me plenty of chances to go to fun, meaningful games during the year, and then the magic time in October. Even when the Dodgers aren't in it, I still watch because I love watching baseball with the tension turned up to 11.
2008-10-02 17:26:35
105.   still bevens
I am a proud member of the century club. I also have two friends who made it through all 100 without taking a bathroom break.
2008-10-02 17:26:51
106.   Humma Kavula
Gagne up in the Milwaukee pen.
2008-10-02 17:27:53
107.   trainwreck
105
I can do it now, but not back then in my younger and more venerable years.
2008-10-02 17:31:16
108.   Humma Kavula
Old Friend in the game on the mound in Philadelphia.
2008-10-02 17:31:35
109.   MollyKnight
Compared to the idiocy that is the NBA playoff format, I think the MLB post-season is a dream.
2008-10-02 17:32:00
110.   trainwreck
109
I concur.
2008-10-02 17:33:02
111.   Humma Kavula
ESPN Radio:

"When he was the Dodger closer, [Gagne] was automatic. Got the nickname 'Lights Out.'"

2008-10-02 17:34:34
112.   bhsportsguy
110 I remember the NBA having 3 game series, but then division winners had a bye.
2008-10-02 17:34:52
113.   Disabled List
Maybe baseball should just use the BCS.
2008-10-02 17:34:57
114.   thinkblue88
111.
Yeah, I heard that too....
2008-10-02 17:36:10
115.   bhsportsguy
113 Of course, some football team in LA was worried about going undefeated and being jobbed by the BCS, wonder what ever happened about that?
2008-10-02 17:36:16
116.   Tripon
109 The NBA post season could be much better if they just play games back to back, or one game in between road and home games.

Right now, the NBA allows 3 off days between HOME GAMES. Its how they can extend the seasons into mid june, its hilarious and stupefying.

2008-10-02 17:38:29
117.   DougS
Thanks for posting the link to Bill Simmons piece, Jon. Very Boston-centric, but worth the read. Among other things, it sheds some light on JD Drew's departure from our fair city. Always useful to ask about the man behind the curtain.

And I guess I'm not the only person who thinks Scott Boras deserves a good, swift kick in the dongly bits on general principle.

2008-10-02 17:38:56
118.   Humma Kavula
Lights Out retires the Phillies in order.
2008-10-02 17:39:37
119.   trainwreck
111
Come on ESPN, get your steroid users clear.

Merriman is Lights Out.

2008-10-02 17:40:49
120.   overkill94
Century Club and gallon of milk are both doable - I've seen them both in person.

For our fraternity rush week we had the annual gallon of milk contest - 30 minutes to drink it, 30 minutes to keep it down. My best friend did it with ease and I got to witness two other people successfully finish (though their bouts with diarrhea probably wasn't worth the glory).

At the end of rush week we always did Century Club and at least 10 people were able to do it each time. I only tried it once, but I only lasted about halfway before it came back up. It would be easier to just chug a beer every 10 minutes or whatever, but that takes away from the fun of it. Oh, and there was definitely much more drinking after that was done.

Yeah, we were kind of the Animal House of our fraternity system :)

2008-10-02 17:44:23
121.   trainwreck
120
The milk challenge is doable, but I think the people that can do it are more beast than man.

Hot dog champ Joey Chestnut did in 41 seconds I think.

2008-10-02 17:45:05
122.   trainwreck
121
By the way, you are supposed to use whole milk, which is what makes it so ridiculous.
2008-10-02 17:46:25
123.   Humma Kavula
But what about fifty eggs? Can anyone eat fifty eggs?
2008-10-02 17:50:34
124.   Humma Kavula
5-2 Phillies, first and second, two out, two on for Fielder. JC Romero on the mound.
2008-10-02 17:51:16
125.   trainwreck
123
Michael Phelps could.
2008-10-02 17:51:29
126.   Humma Kavula
First pitch, broken bat slow roller to Utley and he's out.

Man, I hope the Brewers come alive next game.

2008-10-02 17:54:59
127.   overkill94
122 Oh, well that's a different story. I think we used 2% or 1%.

We did give one guy whole milk without telling him and cracked up at the look on his face when he booted way before anyone else.

The best part was that we used food coloring for all the different contestants so it was a very colorful experience.

2008-10-02 17:58:26
128.   trainwreck
127
Your house must have looked like a Jackson Pollock painting.
2008-10-02 17:59:40
129.   underdog
98 Wow, DL, you were so right about the Punkin Ale. I've already forgotten my work day and this may make whatever happens in either the debate or the Dodgers-Cubs game not matter quite as much, or at least go down easier. ;-) (Don't worry, I'm a light drinker so just one for me, no rule 11 violations from me tonight.)
2008-10-02 18:00:40
130.   dzzrtRatt
53 Let me guess, Molly. Is this your guy?
http://tinyurl.com/4y3srq

People are shocked I'm watching the Dodgers over the VP debate. But I figure we'll know which way it's going in the first half-hour, and then Play Ball.

2008-10-02 18:03:45
131.   blue22
105 - I'm a member of the Century Club twice-over at UCSB, once without having to get up to use the bathroom.

Up until I started having kids, it was one of my life's achievements I was most proud of.

2008-10-02 18:05:24
132.   Tripon
I have been told there is only one October. Which October is that?
2008-10-02 18:06:40
133.   Disabled List
129 Beer is not something I will ever steer anyone wrong about.

But enjoy it while you can. It's a seasonal thing, and they stop selling it after Thanksgiving.

2008-10-02 18:07:04
134.   overkill94
128 Luckily we had plenty of trash cans set up, but sometimes all the trash cans would be occupied so they'd have to launch it over the balcony onto the front lawn.
2008-10-02 18:09:34
135.   underdog
133 {hoard} ;-)

Okay, I'm ordering a pizza and hunkering down in the underdog bunker for the eve. Backatcha soon.

2008-10-02 18:13:02
136.   fanerman
135 Is that like the batcave?
2008-10-02 18:13:42
137.   Eric Stephen
115
That hurts, BH! For the record, USC was never worried if they went undefeated of getting jobbed by the BCS. Now they can just concentrate on getting to the Rose Bowl with the slight possibility of a better bowl game waiting in the balance.
2008-10-02 18:15:48
138.   Jacob Burch
133 I'm pretty sure after the last season or two, I've found Pumpkin Ale at BevMos and other larger beer selection places year round. YMMV.
2008-10-02 18:20:14
139.   Eric Stephen
I really like Dennis Eckersley as a commentator. He's a good addition to the TBS crew.

Also, Eck was great last year or so on the Fox Sports recap of Game 1 of the 1988 WS. His candor was refreshing and insightful.

2008-10-02 18:23:04
140.   Jacob Burch
On the board I run, nearly everyone running blow-by-blow of the debate is from Australia or Europe. I've barely spent time out of the country, and am watching baseball.

I love it!

Fifteen minutes!

2008-10-02 18:24:19
141.   Tripon
I'll just ask this for USC if they go to the Rose Bowl again. Please, Rose Bowl pick somebody from the Big 10.
2008-10-02 18:26:20
142.   Eric Stephen
141
Please, Rose Bowl pick somebody from the Big 10

The Rose Bowl committee usually bends over backward for that.

2008-10-02 18:27:49
143.   Disabled List
Dennis Eckersely STILL looks like he stepped right out of 1983. But yeah, the TBS studio crew is pretty good.

Sounded like it's gonna be the same lineups for both teams, except that Fukudome and Theriot were going to switch spots (#2 and #8) in the order.

2008-10-02 18:28:58
144.   Tripon
I mean, don't pick somebody from the big ten.
2008-10-02 18:29:56
145.   Jacob Burch
This Rose Bowl talk is confusing. I think Tripon is pulling for Penn State!
2008-10-02 18:31:55
146.   larry slimfast
Tony Gwynn looks like he ate John Kruk.
2008-10-02 18:33:13
147.   Eric Stephen
I kind of like the gray hair on Tony Gwynn. Makes him look distinguished.
2008-10-02 18:37:23
148.   Eric Stephen
Molly's heckler friend would not approve of the Cubs uniforms tonight.
2008-10-02 18:38:22
149.   Bob Hendley
I was doing great in Scary Thoughts, thinking that you guys are a bunch of babies, until Ken Noe had to go and mention flying monkeys. I have been under the bed ever since. But now I have Candy and Sr. No, nono, no on the tube. Go Bums.
2008-10-02 18:38:22
150.   thinkblue88
Woohoo!

Here we go!

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2008-10-02 18:38:38
151.   trainwreck
Keep throwing balls, Cubs.
2008-10-02 18:38:45
152.   Sub4Era
get us goin furky
2008-10-02 18:39:27
153.   scareduck
"The hills are alive with Cubs fans."
2008-10-02 18:40:05
154.   scareduck
149 - is that like Scary Spice?
2008-10-02 18:41:36
155.   underdog
I don't know if it's good or bad but Zambrano's certainly pumped up tonight, almost psychotically.
2008-10-02 18:42:42
156.   trainwreck
Alright, it's time to meet the ace!!
2008-10-02 18:42:55
157.   Eric Stephen
C'mon, Manny. We don't need a Clemens 1990 ALCS moment here.
2008-10-02 18:43:38
158.   Alex41592
This umpire has a very wide strike zone so far.
2008-10-02 18:43:41
159.   underdog
If Z is on tonight, Chad needs to be on, too. Could be a low scoring game. Hope His Royal Thighness doesn't have too many jittery nerves.
2008-10-02 18:43:49
160.   Eric Stephen
Zambrano has a bit more control tonight than Mr. Dempster last night.
2008-10-02 18:44:11
161.   scareduck
That was brief.
2008-10-02 18:44:12
162.   Bob Hendley
That's Sr. Maldonado on the Latin feed.
2008-10-02 18:44:42
163.   scareduck
158 - if Gameday is to be believed, Manny had cause to complain.
2008-10-02 18:45:15
164.   Alex41592
Bills and Russ were working on the outside corner and breaking balls during the break.
2008-10-02 18:45:29
165.   trainwreck
Okay, not ideal start.
2008-10-02 18:46:41
166.   trainwreck
Over throwing a bit, Chad.
2008-10-02 18:46:49
167.   Bob Hendley
The way that Billz' pitches move, he can take advantage of a wide zone big time.
2008-10-02 18:46:51
168.   underdog
Not the best of all possible starts. Come on, settle guys!
2008-10-02 18:46:52
169.   Bob Timmermann
The Cubs shouldn't wear the dark tops with pinstriped pants. They should wear solid white if they have to go for that combo.
2008-10-02 18:46:55
170.   scareduck
Somebody send Martin to the mound.
2008-10-02 18:47:24
171.   Underbruin
... Wow. I'm sorry, but that Bill Simmons article was terrible, and doesn't belong anywhere near the mainstream press. It reads to me like a mediocre-at-best piece from a whiny blogger - "Waaahhhh, my favorite player is gone so I'm going to blame everybody but him." Granted, my opinion is worth little more than the electrons it takes to run this computer, so...

On another note, I am not a fan of the way this game is beginning.

2008-10-02 18:47:59
172.   trainwreck
That was not a breaking pitch, Dick.
2008-10-02 18:48:22
173.   Bob Hendley
Bob is all over the Cubs tonight.
2008-10-02 18:48:55
174.   underdog
That was filthy.
2008-10-02 18:49:18
175.   Alex41592
Great pitch to Theriot.
2008-10-02 18:49:18
176.   underdog
172 I know, that made me crack up. Stockton = Not the best judge of pitches.
2008-10-02 18:49:34
177.   Bob Timmermann
Theriot retired on the "giving up on the dropped third strike rule." Once Theriot walked out of the dirt circle, he was out.
2008-10-02 18:50:30
178.   scareduck
Bills sure settled down in a hurry.
2008-10-02 18:50:48
179.   Eric Stephen
The 1-2 pitch was strike 3.
2008-10-02 18:50:57
180.   underdog
That looked like a strike but missed Martin's target. Feh.
2008-10-02 18:51:03
181.   trainwreck
Damn, that was a strike, but because of how Martin moved he did not call it.
2008-10-02 18:51:18
182.   thinkblue88
nice! Bills looks good.
2008-10-02 18:51:21
183.   trainwreck
Oh well, nevermind. : )
2008-10-02 18:51:22
184.   waterboy100
ok. this start looks better now that bills has settled down
2008-10-02 18:51:40
185.   Alex41592
Bills coming up big so far.
2008-10-02 18:51:42
186.   Eric Stephen
179
That pitch had the misfortune of a moving Martin setting up inside and reaching out (over the plate) to catch a strike.

Oh well, at least Lee struck out.

2008-10-02 18:52:38
187.   Alex41592
Cutters and sliders away are the way to go.
2008-10-02 18:53:06
188.   Eric Stephen
Quick and extremely amateur scouting report on Bills' 1st inning so far:

Curveballs = biting
Fastballs = exploding

2008-10-02 18:54:24
189.   Bluebleeder87
Hey batter batter batter....
2008-10-02 18:54:29
190.   KG16
Not a bad inning at all, not at all.
2008-10-02 18:54:33
191.   Sub4Era
That'll work.
2008-10-02 18:54:33
192.   underdog
Nice.

{exhale}

2008-10-02 18:54:44
193.   trainwreck
Alright, time to go multi-task.

Go Dodgers!

2008-10-02 18:54:55
194.   Alex41592
YEAH! Great job Bills!
2008-10-02 18:55:19
195.   underdog
{Homer Simpson} That 1-2 pitch looked like a... D'oh!
2008-10-02 18:55:53
196.   dontraiseplz
man I wanted a K of the side so bad
2008-10-02 18:56:00
197.   ToyCannon
After Soriano those Cub hitters had as much chance as I did against Bluebleeder in wiffleball fastball.
2008-10-02 18:56:07
198.   Bluebleeder87
Aramis Ramirez (man that's a cool full name!) from this humble observer looks ultra aggressive to me.
2008-10-02 18:56:44
199.   Alex41592
Zambrano is working on his curveball.
2008-10-02 18:57:18
200.   Jacob Burch
Any bets on who brings in the first run?

Money on: Bison

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2008-10-02 18:57:55
201.   ToyCannon
DeWitt
2008-10-02 18:58:12
202.   scareduck
197 - I did not know there was such a thing as fast-pitch wiffleball.
2008-10-02 18:58:35
203.   Eric Stephen
200
I'll go Loney
2008-10-02 18:58:50
204.   Eric Stephen
I mean Ethier!
2008-10-02 18:59:17
205.   Alex41592
Nice start Andre.
2008-10-02 18:59:34
206.   Bluebleeder87
oh yes, those kind of breaks also help.
2008-10-02 18:59:34
207.   natepurcell
WOW! YAY!
2008-10-02 18:59:34
208.   Eric Stephen
Theri-d'oh!
2008-10-02 18:59:35
209.   dontraiseplz
brilliant call... Joe Torre?
2008-10-02 18:59:36
210.   Sub4Era
Nice call Torre!!!
2008-10-02 18:59:36
211.   thinkblue88
yess!! Lets get em early.
2008-10-02 18:59:38
212.   waterboy100
alright. lets bring em in
2008-10-02 18:59:49
213.   nick
Joe Torre post-season tactical genius!
2008-10-02 18:59:54
214.   LogikReader
More Cubs magic from Theriot.
2008-10-02 18:59:55
215.   Disabled List
Nice! Caught a break there, let's cash it in...
2008-10-02 18:59:56
216.   underdog
That was an awesome bit of execution and call. Nice.
2008-10-02 18:59:59
217.   Eric Stephen
52 hits to left now, Tony. :)
2008-10-02 18:59:59
218.   KG16
that's one of those plays that will kick up the bad vibes in Wrigley.

And for the record, I like that, I like that a lot.

2008-10-02 19:00:10
219.   overkill94
171 It was more of a plea to not blame Manny solely for what happened
2008-10-02 19:00:17
220.   kachang
beautiful!
2008-10-02 19:00:22
221.   Alex41592
I love the aggressive hit and run! The difference between 1st and 3rd and nobody out or 2 out and nobody on.
2008-10-02 19:00:28
222.   scareduck
200 - looks like you may be right.
2008-10-02 19:00:32
223.   dodgers82
Kemp 3 for 6 lifetime against Z.
2008-10-02 19:00:45
224.   natepurcell
lol anyone else just realized Matt, Zambrano and Ethier are all in those ron stalonovich vids?
2008-10-02 19:00:53
225.   Bob Hendley
Big Z is not happy.
2008-10-02 19:00:59
226.   waterboy100
whats the website that espn used that shows (using flash) the projected scores, and each players hits/rbi's...
2008-10-02 19:01:00
227.   Gen3Blue
Well, although the announcers were somewhat premature on mentioning this, there goes the no hitter.
2008-10-02 19:01:02
228.   KG16
C'mon Bison, that should have been hit to the street.
2008-10-02 19:01:06
229.   Disabled List
Zambrano is really on top of the strike zone tonight.
2008-10-02 19:01:29
230.   dodgers82
I forgot to mention.....w/three K's
2008-10-02 19:01:42
231.   Cannonball
I just had a ScrappyRon1 flashback
2008-10-02 19:01:48
232.   Eric Stephen
222
I read "brings in" as "scores"
2008-10-02 19:02:02
233.   dodgers82
WORK THAT COUNT KEMP!
2008-10-02 19:02:27
234.   waterboy100
grrrrr.
2008-10-02 19:02:31
235.   KG16
Swing the bat Matt. Swing the bat.
2008-10-02 19:02:41
236.   scareduck
222 - or not.
2008-10-02 19:02:42
237.   Gen3Blue
Oh-Oh. These announcers sound like hayseeds at best.(I don't want to call them biased yet.)
2008-10-02 19:02:50
238.   Sub4Era
Kemp looks pretty timid
2008-10-02 19:02:53
239.   Eric Stephen
Pretend there's someone on 2nd too, Blake!
2008-10-02 19:03:30
240.   waterboy100
woooot.
2008-10-02 19:03:37
241.   thinkblue88
sweet!

we take the lead!

2008-10-02 19:03:38
242.   ToyCannon
I win
2008-10-02 19:03:46
243.   KG16
oh that is just so sweet.
2008-10-02 19:03:54
244.   dontraiseplz
wow! I'll take it!
2008-10-02 19:03:55
245.   Eric Stephen
DEEEE-fence....duh duh duh duh....DEEEE-fence....duh duh duh duh.
2008-10-02 19:04:04
246.   underdog
Thank you, DeRosa. Thank you Lou for starting Fukudome at right field instead of DeRosa. Thank you, Academy. Thanks Mom. Thanks everyone.
2008-10-02 19:04:18
247.   Bob Timmermann
That went from worst case scenario to best case scenario rather quickly.
2008-10-02 19:04:22
248.   scareduck
222 - the ex-Solution gets the first one in.
2008-10-02 19:04:23
249.   mpm31
Double bonus: 1.) We score a run and 2.) this is sure to get Zambrano agitated.
2008-10-02 19:04:28
250.   nick
ok, now punish them with the 3-run jack!
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2008-10-02 19:04:29
251.   Alex41592
We got one! Breaks are huge in the playoffs!
2008-10-02 19:04:37
252.   Eric Stephen
242
I still read "brings in" as "scores"
2008-10-02 19:04:43
253.   ToyCannon
How noisy is that crowd now? Sounds more like a low disgruntled murmur.
2008-10-02 19:04:46
254.   scareduck
245 - more like duh-fence.
2008-10-02 19:04:54
255.   whodat807
Zambrano's not looking so good!
2008-10-02 19:04:57
256.   thinkblue88
YES!! I LOVE IT!! woo!
2008-10-02 19:04:58
257.   Bluebleeder87
manifestation's of yesterdays Dodger victory are evident, NOW!
2008-10-02 19:05:03
258.   KG16
the North Side of Chicago is going to burn down tonight.
2008-10-02 19:05:06
259.   ToyCannon
Are they on skates?
2008-10-02 19:05:10
260.   waterboy100
i know it may not be cool. but i really feel for cubs fans right around now.
2008-10-02 19:05:10
261.   Eric Stephen
The Chicago suicide hotline has got to be blowing up right now.
2008-10-02 19:05:11
262.   natepurcell
Wow....what is going on for their infielders?
2008-10-02 19:05:11
263.   dontraiseplz
I don't believe what I'm seeing, STONE HANDS today!

it has to be taking a toll on Zambrano

2008-10-02 19:05:22
264.   Alex41592
More bad defense!!!
2008-10-02 19:05:23
265.   Bob Hendley
Uh oh (were is that goat?)
2008-10-02 19:05:24
266.   LogikReader
Man... this is just crazy. Three botched plays in a row. The Cubs are nearly winning the game for us!
2008-10-02 19:05:25
267.   Bob Timmermann
Paging Alex Gonzalez, paging Alex Gonzalez, please come to the white courtesy phone.

Alex Gonzalez.

2008-10-02 19:05:25
268.   underdog
That inside cutter from Zambrano is going to be murder on righties today if he's gonna get that inside strike call. They're going to have to basically step back a bit to try at least to foul it off. So we'll take what we can get.
2008-10-02 19:05:28
269.   Disabled List
What is going on with the Cubs tonight?
2008-10-02 19:05:28
270.   Bluebleeder87
Pressure is on Cubbies...
2008-10-02 19:05:31
271.   Jacob Burch
Cubs fans may want to read Jon's "Breaks come and go" post.

HRT! HRT! HRT!

2008-10-02 19:05:48
272.   scareduck
E3. This is insane.
2008-10-02 19:06:03
273.   Alex41592
BTW, I highly suggest listening to Vin. He's on tonight.
2008-10-02 19:06:10
274.   waterboy100
so. let bills swing? or tell him not to move the bat?
2008-10-02 19:06:13
275.   scareduck
265 - they wouldn't let it in the park.
2008-10-02 19:06:21
276.   Eric Stephen
267
The Cubs need an after the fact scapegoat, and quick!
2008-10-02 19:06:23
277.   dzzrtRatt
Shouldn't Chad just keep the bat on his shoulder here? K or BB, but no DP.
2008-10-02 19:06:27
278.   whodat807
Boy, Zambrano's getting the Broxton defensive treatment.
2008-10-02 19:06:31
279.   waterboy100
well at least it isnt a dp....
2008-10-02 19:06:31
280.   underdog
Jeez, this is almost Buckneresque here. Brace yourself for a week's worth of whining about The Curse.™
2008-10-02 19:06:52
281.   dzzrtRatt
276 Don't say "goat" to Cub fans.
2008-10-02 19:06:52
282.   Gen3Blue
Zam is surely a bit wild, so it probably wouldn't hurt to take a few pitches.
Those ground balls were rifled. If you get hit that hard, no defense can save you.

The announcers are so excited they don't know how many outs there are.

2008-10-02 19:06:55
283.   scareduck
260 - I have to. I'm married to one.
2008-10-02 19:06:56
284.   Bluebleeder87
I don't mean it in a bad way Billz but at least we got you out of the way in this inning. :o)
2008-10-02 19:06:59
285.   Eric Stephen
Time to welcome back Furcal to the national stage!
2008-10-02 19:07:03
286.   Disabled List
OK, big moment for Furcal here. Show 'em you're back...
2008-10-02 19:07:17
287.   kachang
It sure would be nice to have Kemp in the leadoff spot right now...
2008-10-02 19:07:31
288.   KG16
I was half expecting Billingsly to hit it out.
2008-10-02 19:07:52
289.   waterboy100
oh. my. god....
i think we can say that raffys back
2008-10-02 19:07:55
290.   nick
GENIUS!
2008-10-02 19:07:55
291.   Sub4Era
HAHAHA, WOW!
2008-10-02 19:07:56
292.   thinkblue88
woohoooohooooooo!!!

yess!! Dodgers!!!

2008-10-02 19:07:58
293.   Disabled List
ATTA BOY!
2008-10-02 19:08:00
294.   Eric Stephen
Awesome...Furcal is the Drag King!
2008-10-02 19:08:13
295.   ToyCannon
God I missed Rafy
2008-10-02 19:08:19
296.   Alex41592
YES! Brilliant play by Furcal!
2008-10-02 19:08:31
297.   tjdub
Leon Durham is smiling
2008-10-02 19:08:34
298.   whodat807
DRAG BUNT! FURCAL!
2008-10-02 19:08:39
299.   Gen3Blue
Well--that wasn't huge for Zam, as the announcer had anticipated!
2008-10-02 19:08:52
300.   underdog
That was BRILLIANT, Raffy. Woo! Cubs are being seriously outexecuted this inning.
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2008-10-02 19:08:53
301.   Eric Stephen
I dare you to throw an inside fastball to Russ.
2008-10-02 19:08:55
302.   scareduck
Unsane. Drag bunt single. Good managerial call, if that's what it was, by Torre to exacerbate the Cubs' wobbly infield.
2008-10-02 19:08:56
303.   Bob Hendley
281 - You are not allowed to kid them?
2008-10-02 19:09:02
304.   Bob Timmermann
That wasn't a drag bunt, but the thought is nice.
2008-10-02 19:09:12
305.   waterboy100
let me correct you all.
bases loaded rbi drag bunt.
its better than any other ordinary drag bunt
2008-10-02 19:09:20
306.   underdog
294 Hah hah. Different than the Drag Queen, eh?
2008-10-02 19:09:20
307.   dzzrtRatt
What's that woofing sound in the stands?
2008-10-02 19:09:27
308.   scareduck
294 - don't you have to be a lesbian for that?
2008-10-02 19:09:40
309.   Gen3Blue
Boy-- marginal strike.
2008-10-02 19:09:41
310.   waterboy100
has there been an outfield hit in this inning?
2008-10-02 19:10:03
311.   Eric Stephen
301
YESSS!!!!!!
2008-10-02 19:10:19
312.   waterboy100
310 guess that answered my question

lol

2008-10-02 19:10:21
313.   nick
YOWSA!
2008-10-02 19:10:28
314.   KG16
GOLDEN GOD!
2008-10-02 19:10:29
315.   dzzrtRatt
Nice work GG!

Piniella: Hide anything breakable.

2008-10-02 19:10:30
316.   Sub4Era
THE GOLDEN GOD!
2008-10-02 19:10:32
317.   Gen3Blue
Huge.
2008-10-02 19:10:34
318.   Bluebleeder87
WOOOOOO!
2008-10-02 19:10:36
319.   thinkblue88
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

YESS!!

RUSSELL GOLDEN GOD!!!! HAHAHA!!

2008-10-02 19:10:36
320.   Disabled List
YESSSS!!!! 5-run inning!!!
2008-10-02 19:10:57
321.   kachang
Ruseelllllll Marrrrrttin!!! i love you
2008-10-02 19:10:59
322.   Alex41592
OH YEAH! OH YEAH! OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!

"And the city by the lake is underwater" - Vin

2008-10-02 19:11:00
323.   Eric Stephen
304
I wanted to use the term "Drag King". Forgive me.
2008-10-02 19:11:05
324.   scareduck
Ladies and gentlemen, I present your National League Division Champion Los Angeles Dodgers.
2008-10-02 19:11:05
325.   Rob M
Golden God!!!!!!!
2008-10-02 19:11:09
326.   whodat807
OH MY GOSH! Martin sure has chosen a good time to heat up at the plate!
2008-10-02 19:11:17
327.   tjdub
I wouldn't change much about the postseason, but the best teams could be rewarded with some pretty simple changes. Make the DS 7 games and elimate off-days when not required for travel. Teams would be forced to use 4th and possibly 5th starters and the playoffs would more closely match the regular season.
2008-10-02 19:11:24
328.   Reddog
Russell Martin!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!WoooHoooo!!!!!!!!!
2008-10-02 19:11:25
329.   Pepperdine
go russ!
2008-10-02 19:11:32
330.   Bluebleeder87
I'm getting a bad delay when I tune in to Vinnie.
2008-10-02 19:11:33
331.   dzzrtRatt
Zambrano has too much pride to do what he should clearly do here, walk Manny.
2008-10-02 19:11:40
332.   Bob Hendley
All he needed was a little rest. Golden God, wop, wop, wop, Gold.
2008-10-02 19:11:46
333.   MonkeyBlue
Simply amazing!!!!!!
2008-10-02 19:11:55
334.   KG16
that was about 3 millimeters from being a 7 run inning
2008-10-02 19:12:02
335.   fracule
324 Easy now...
2008-10-02 19:12:24
336.   underdog
I freakin' LOVE it. And it's not just the Punkin Ale talking! Wow, what a genius inning for the Dodgers in every way.
2008-10-02 19:12:30
337.   KG16
that was strike 3? really?
2008-10-02 19:12:31
338.   Disabled List
This ump is just as bad as last night.

How many of those runs were unearned?

2008-10-02 19:12:31
339.   Eric Stephen
Manny knew that was strike 3. No debate.
2008-10-02 19:12:33
340.   nick
ump squeezed Manny there--payback for last AB?
2008-10-02 19:12:33
341.   Marty
Thank you Golden God.
2008-10-02 19:12:33
342.   Bob Timmermann
Drag bunts are hit down the third base line.

Think Vic Davalillo in 1977.

2008-10-02 19:12:46
343.   natepurcell
Yo Thunderthighz...just sling dem strikes homie.
2008-10-02 19:12:48
344.   fracule
Is it just me, or is Zambrano's Strike Zone a little bit on the wide side?
2008-10-02 19:13:01
345.   RELX
Does this anyone knew if the game is being streamed anywhere??
2008-10-02 19:13:03
346.   El Lay Dave
324 Don't get fanerman's knuckles bleeding again.
2008-10-02 19:13:22
347.   Tripon
two strike outs for Manny.
2008-10-02 19:13:32
348.   underdog
Dear Carlos,

I'm leaving before this gets out of hand.

Sincerely,
Cubs Water Cooler.

2008-10-02 19:14:04
349.   Alex41592
This umps strike zone is about 2 inches wider on each side. But he's consistent.
2008-10-02 19:14:05
350.   The Dude Abides
That double by Martin really tied the inning together.
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2008-10-02 19:14:14
351.   Rob M
That rest really did Martin well. It makes me a little angry that Navarro isn't here catching 50 games a year while Russ catches 110 and plays 3rd in about 15-20 more.
2008-10-02 19:14:16
352.   fracule
342 I think that's for a right handed batter. A lefty would drag a bunt down first baseline right?
2008-10-02 19:14:26
353.   El Lay Dave
So Furcal accomplished what LaRoche could not (bases-loaded, two-out bunt).
2008-10-02 19:14:39
354.   Eric Stephen
348
Nice.
2008-10-02 19:14:46
355.   Lee Corbett
anyone posted a link where the game can be watched online?
2008-10-02 19:14:53
356.   Jacob Burch
342 Most mondern Glossaries and Dictionaries accept the broad definition. Live a little Bob!
2008-10-02 19:15:25
357.   El Lay Dave
347 And yet, 5-0. Guess the team is a bit more than just Manny.
2008-10-02 19:15:37
358.   JRSarno
am i dreaming?
2008-10-02 19:15:59
359.   scareduck
338 - only one of the Dodgers' five runs were earned.
2008-10-02 19:16:04
360.   fanerman
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

Whoa.

2008-10-02 19:16:35
361.   Rob M
342 I dispute your definition of drag bunt, despite your status of know-it-all-in-chief.
2008-10-02 19:16:39
362.   dodgers82
DeRosa 2 for 6, w/ 3 k's
Edmonds 1 for 11 w/ 4 k's
Soto 0 for 2 w/ 2 k's
2008-10-02 19:17:24
363.   fracule
Is there no lighting over the bleachers at Wrigley? It's awefully dark when look in from the outfield.
2008-10-02 19:17:27
364.   Eric Stephen
Just pointing this out. If someone hypothetically bet -- you know, if gambling were legal -- $200 on the Dodgers +141, that someone would stand to win $282 if the score holds up. And that someone would hypothetically be a very happy San Diegan -- or you know, wherever this hypothetical person was from -- because a few more postseason tickets would be paid for.
2008-10-02 19:17:52
365.   KG16
Furcal's bunt was not a drag bunt. Drag bunts go down the line. Furcal's bunt was to the second baseman. Slightly different.
2008-10-02 19:17:56
366.   StolenMonkey86
348 - The Cubs water cooler gets beat up by everyone. I think even Maddux took a swing at it a couple years ago.
2008-10-02 19:18:45
367.   Bob Timmermann
The know-it-all in chief retracts his anti drag bunt stance.

Please accept my apologies.

Do I have unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks?

2008-10-02 19:18:53
368.   El Lay Dave
Bleed Cubbies Blue must be melting down.
2008-10-02 19:19:01
369.   Eric Stephen
363
There is only minimum lighting there. The only game I ever saw there was a night game, and it was pretty surreal and awesome. Basically, the stands are dark and the field is lit. It's like you are watching a performance on a stage. Very cool.
2008-10-02 19:19:24
370.   overkill94
Either Billingsley's cutter is moving more than usual or he's throwing a lot more breaking balls tonight
2008-10-02 19:19:27
371.   Eric Stephen
367
Motion carried.
2008-10-02 19:19:59
372.   LogikReader
Does MLB.com archive radio broadcasts as well as the TV ones? I'm gonna have to purchase the audio package right now!
2008-10-02 19:20:06
373.   Eric Stephen
Beautiful, Chad. Just great!
2008-10-02 19:20:09
374.   JJ42
Feel the thunder!
2008-10-02 19:20:10
375.   Disabled List
368 I can hear the Rule 1 violations from here.
2008-10-02 19:20:18
376.   Bob Timmermann
363
Wrigley's lights are designed to keep a lot of the light from hitting the neighbors. If there were lights above the bleachers, the people across the street would be living under a spotlight.
2008-10-02 19:20:32
377.   Jacob Burch
365 While MW isn't the king of baseball terminology, I like their definition (I'd add a bunt that goes past the pitcher, but alas):

: a bunt in baseball made by a left-handed batter by trailing the bat while moving toward first base ; broadly : a bunt made with the object of getting on base safely rather than sacrificing.

2008-10-02 19:20:43
378.   mwhite06
Dick Stockton has a weird definition of checked swing.
2008-10-02 19:20:50
379.   StolenMonkey86
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-060524cubsgamer,0,3197362.story
2008-10-02 19:20:54
380.   overkill94
364 I really wanted to hypothetically wager on this game given those odds, but I subscribe to the mantra of never hypothetically bet on your favorite team
2008-10-02 19:21:33
381.   underdog
Cubs fans love Soto, and for good reason, except apparently the big guy in the stands behind the plate who cursed him out after that strike out.

Which was a pretty filthy pitch from Bills.

2008-10-02 19:21:42
382.   Jacob Burch
364 And a hypothetical Reggie Miller lover is sad he never emailed this hypothetical gambler to add a c-note to the bet.

Emailing you shortly on a few things, by the way.

2008-10-02 19:21:47
383.   KG16
380 - hypothetically speaking, it's best to bet with your head and root with your heart. Hypothetically.
2008-10-02 19:21:54
384.   waterboy100
is it just me or are torre and phil jackson's philosophy of not really managing pretty similar?
2008-10-02 19:22:02
385.   El Lay Dave
375 Are you in the bar again?
2008-10-02 19:22:09
386.   Marty
One of the crowd shots showed the old CEO of Tribune. Then Russell hit the double. That was sweet.
2008-10-02 19:22:16
387.   underdog
378 - I know! We literally could have another drinking game on our hands with Dick Stockton-isms.
2008-10-02 19:22:38
388.   Rob M
Wasn't Johnny Oates the master of the drag bunt? That's one of those baesball truisms from my childhood floating around in my head (and it might be completely wrong.)
2008-10-02 19:23:23
389.   Eric Stephen
383
For instance, bet on the best pitcher and bet against the pitcher with a 10 ERA in his last 7 non-no-no starts.
2008-10-02 19:23:41
390.   overkill94
As tight as last night's ump's zone was, that's how loose tonight's is
2008-10-02 19:24:08
391.   Eric Stephen
For a second there, when Theriot looked over at DeRosa, I was sure that ball would drop. :)
2008-10-02 19:24:13
392.   underdog
I've decided to stop peeking in to BleedCubbieBlue, even when things are going badly for them. I can't really enjoy it, it's just kind of frightening and depressing. And I certainly don't feel like posting anything over there anymore. It was friendly awhile back but after the series started, fuhgedaboutit.
2008-10-02 19:24:19
393.   Disabled List
TBS just noted that Ethier was batting 1.000 so far in the NLDS. I guess that 0-3 yesterday didn't really count.
2008-10-02 19:24:29
394.   El Lay Dave
David Wells drag bunt last season was stupendous.
2008-10-02 19:24:52
395.   waterboy100
226 answered my own questions, and i guess we blew their projections out of the water.
2008-10-02 19:25:10
396.   overkill94
Because, Dick, we have other good hitters on our team besides Manny. Jerk.
2008-10-02 19:25:27
397.   Bob Timmermann
Vic Davalillo was the king of the drag bunt. At least for one day.

Greatest
Drag
Bunt
Ever

2008-10-02 19:26:52
398.   Bluebleeder87
I agree, this ump has a WAY bigger strike zone.
2008-10-02 19:26:52
399.   dodgers82
If GameCast is correct, the pitch called strike for the 3-1 on Loney, was like 2 stories under the zone.
2008-10-02 19:26:59
400.   Sub4Era
I wish I could hear Vinny without the delay. I don't have tivo so the delay would probably drive me nuts...
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2008-10-02 19:27:13
401.   El Lay Dave
Russ Martin's double didn't look "thin", did it?
2008-10-02 19:27:35
402.   Marty
I'm glad it's 5-0, but I don't like this ump.
2008-10-02 19:27:42
403.   overkill94
Zambrano's actually pitching a pretty good game. He really does have a reason to blame his defense so far.
2008-10-02 19:27:43
404.   Eric Stephen
397
Bob, I'm ashamed to admit this, but I don't know the bunt of which you speak. Was it 77 or 78 against the Phillies?
2008-10-02 19:27:44
405.   Disabled List
385 Nah, I'm at home tonight. But if I listen really hard, I probably could hear them for real. That place is just down the street.
2008-10-02 19:28:18
406.   kachang
399 yeah the 3-1 pitch strike was almost identical to the 2-1 called ball
2008-10-02 19:28:20
407.   overkill94
401 Heeeeell no!
2008-10-02 19:28:23
408.   Kevin Lewis
Is there a video link for this game somewhere?
2008-10-02 19:28:33
409.   scareduck
375 - I think it was Rita Rudner who said (and this is from memory) "I beat my husband at tennis once. I asked him, 'Will we ever have sex again?' He said, 'Yes, but not with each other.'"

At this precise moment, I'm not sure I should go home...

2008-10-02 19:28:52
410.   dodgers82
This Ump..Mr. Imel, is inconsistent as can be.
2008-10-02 19:28:56
411.   underdog
Gah, I'm still steamed at that second strike call on Kemp. He has no chance if Z's gonna get calls like that. Well, as long as it cuts both ways I guess.
2008-10-02 19:28:58
412.   El Lay Dave
397 Yes, yes he was.
2008-10-02 19:29:17
413.   StolenMonkey86
I think what I miss the most not watching this on TV now is the expression on Lou Pinella's face.
2008-10-02 19:29:27
414.   Eric Stephen
Headline right now on Yahoo Sports: "Hex of a Game"

Man, they really like to play up this curse business. Sheesh.

2008-10-02 19:30:07
415.   thinkblue88
408.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=20361&part=sports
2008-10-02 19:30:08
416.   Bob Timmermann
Eric,
9th inning, Game 3 of the 1977 NLCS. Two outs, none on, two strikes on Vic Davalillo and then the drag bunt ...
2008-10-02 19:30:43
417.   trainwreck
lol can anyone give me a link to game?

My friend does not have TBS.

2008-10-02 19:30:57
418.   madmac
the cubs gotta feel cursed after that 2nd inning
2008-10-02 19:30:58
419.   Eric Stephen
My fantasy team this year was named "Beyond Fukudome". I did not win.
2008-10-02 19:31:08
420.   Alex41592
Just filthy.
2008-10-02 19:31:09
421.   dodgers82
I thought Fukodome was gonna break his neck on that last swing
2008-10-02 19:31:09
422.   scareduck
404 - see here:

http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/2003/07/pickoff-moves.html

2008-10-02 19:31:15
423.   Bob Timmermann
In my opinion, Game 3 of the 1977 NLCS was the most exciting Dodgers game I saw until the 4+1 game.
2008-10-02 19:31:21
424.   LogikReader
403

I agree. Zambrano has been on all night except for those three botched plays. Thank goodness GG hit the mini jackpot!

2008-10-02 19:31:35
425.   trainwreck
415
Nevermind, thanks.
2008-10-02 19:31:39
426.   Eric Stephen
I really get a kick out of switch-hitting pitchers.
2008-10-02 19:32:12
427.   alnyden
I am HAPPY and enjoying every second of this... 20 years of pent up Dodger-playoff frustration being released... Whatever happens, the Dodgers finally came to a playoff series to PLAY.
2008-10-02 19:32:40
428.   thinkblue88
425,
Its on a delay. Like 2 batter delay.
2008-10-02 19:33:07
429.   Eric Stephen
Cue Gob. "C'mon!!!"
2008-10-02 19:33:17
430.   dodgers82
Bills now has 41 pitches, settle down Bills, settle down
2008-10-02 19:33:19
431.   overkill94
Good strategy Chad, get the pitcher tired by making him run the bases
2008-10-02 19:33:42
432.   Disabled List
Bad Chad, bad. NO.
2008-10-02 19:34:12
433.   dodgers82
431, "i like your style"
2008-10-02 19:34:55
434.   Eric Stephen
416 ,422
Thanks!
2008-10-02 19:35:38
435.   Eric Stephen
Did you graduate HS in 1994? Just wondering about the moniker.
2008-10-02 19:36:01
436.   ToyCannon
423
Yeah, but I only heard it on the radio. JC days between classes.
2008-10-02 19:36:21
437.   mpm31
Does anyone else think Rick Honeycutt bears at least a passing resemblance to Tom "Jake Taylor" Berenger?
2008-10-02 19:36:29
438.   overkill94
433 "I like your moves"

Look at Z's legs just wilting under his stout frame while Billingsley gets two visits to the mound!

2008-10-02 19:36:29
439.   scareduck
410 - Paul Emnmel is the home plate umpire.
2008-10-02 19:36:41
440.   Eric Stephen
Way to settle down, Lord Chadwick!
2008-10-02 19:36:47
441.   Humma Kavula
Joining in late. 5-0 lead -- that's awesome!

What's the story of the game?

2008-10-02 19:36:47
442.   Humma Kavula
Joining in late. 5-0 lead -- that's awesome!

What's the story of the game?

2008-10-02 19:36:56
443.   Marty
Nice job of calming Chad down.
2008-10-02 19:37:03
444.   thinkblue88
haha..vinny

"Dodgers 5, Cubs...NADA!

2008-10-02 19:37:24
445.   overkill94
435 Nah, it's somewhat random (I graduated in '99). Overkill is my favorite metal band and 1994 is the year of the album I first bought by them.
2008-10-02 19:37:40
446.   surfing slug
Good coaching, Honey!
2008-10-02 19:37:46
447.   Alex41592
I'd say Chad settled down pretty well there.

"Dodgers 5 Cubs NADA!!!" - Vin

2008-10-02 19:38:20
448.   StolenMonkey86
I wasn't watching, but that would look frightening if the 6'5" 255 lb Zambrano ran really hard at the 5'1" 175 lb DeWitt.
2008-10-02 19:38:46
449.   mwhite06
442 Dodgers get 5 in the 2nd, 4 unearned.
2008-10-02 19:38:54
450.   Eric Stephen
441 ,442
Lots of errors/misplays by the Cubs non-Aramis IF, capped by a bases loaded double from Golden God.
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2008-10-02 19:38:56
451.   Disabled List
441 Russ Martin is great. Cubs defense is not great.
2008-10-02 19:39:08
452.   Bluebleeder87
Chad Billingsley must be LOVING this, the big stage, young up & coming stud like him pitching against the Cubbies 5 run lead.

just show'em what you got Bills.

2008-10-02 19:39:21
453.   slatkin
What IS unfair is the tunnel vision seeding system for the playoffs. The Angels get the best record and are rewarded by getting to play...the Red Sox?
2008-10-02 19:39:29
454.   underdog
Do people really suffer long term injury from Cialis usage?

Ah, don't answer that.

2008-10-02 19:39:38
455.   overkill94
Sweet! Vampire Weekend!
2008-10-02 19:40:41
456.   scareduck
454 - Hard to say.
2008-10-02 19:40:47
457.   Eric Stephen
Getting back to the drag description, I want to amend my Furcal comment to call his play a "push" bunt. I think drag implies the ball on the ground, being seemingly dragged along with the runner.
2008-10-02 19:41:34
458.   trainwreck
Nothing works on my friends comp, this is hell!
2008-10-02 19:41:45
459.   Eric Stephen
454
Well, not the actual people taking Cialis. :)
2008-10-02 19:41:59
460.   overkill94
457 Nah, a push bunt can only be done by a righty when he truly is pushing the ball the other way while running towards it
2008-10-02 19:41:59
461.   dodgers82
Good hustle Blake
2008-10-02 19:43:06
462.   Eric Stephen
Ramirez joins the club!
2008-10-02 19:43:07
463.   overkill94
This whole standing up and cheering for every 2-strike count is pretty annoying. Wouldn't it have much more impact if they saved it for key situations?

Now all the infielders have errors!

2008-10-02 19:43:16
464.   Bluebleeder87
Aramis Ramirez...
2008-10-02 19:43:23
465.   Tripon
Amaris Ramirez joins the error infield.
2008-10-02 19:43:23
466.   El Lay Dave
451 And Furcal is a good bunter.
2008-10-02 19:43:33
467.   Eric Stephen
All 4 Cubs' infielders with a misplay.

Take advantage, Raffy!

2008-10-02 19:43:33
468.   underdog
And BCB just crashed the FanNation server on that error.
2008-10-02 19:43:39
469.   Alex41592
There's an Aramis special.
2008-10-02 19:43:43
470.   dodgers82
Seeing Z's body language I sense a Zambrano detonation, especially Ramirez dropping that.
2008-10-02 19:43:53
471.   scareduck
E5 = third error.

BCB is melting down.

2008-10-02 19:43:54
472.   underdog
467 And he does!
2008-10-02 19:43:56
473.   Disabled List
Torre has a Joe Morgan-esque quality of being unable to utter a single sentence without bringing up his glory years.

Just like Morgan yammers on about the Big Red Machine, Torre constantly flashes back to his pinstripe days.

2008-10-02 19:44:05
474.   Eric Stephen
I again dare Z to throw an inside fastball to the Golden God.
2008-10-02 19:44:15
475.   KG16
next year, the Cubs need to have a day where fans bring goats to the game.

or maybe have a Santo do a sacrifice, just don't tell PETA

2008-10-02 19:44:19
476.   Sub4Era
Man... what a difference a Furcal makes
2008-10-02 19:44:36
477.   Alex41592
Zambrano killer with a chance to add on.
2008-10-02 19:45:06
478.   dodgers82
Whoever had the Honeycutt/Berenger look-a-like comment......HAHAHAHA! youre so right.
2008-10-02 19:45:31
479.   El Lay Dave
I wouldn't mind some more unearned runs here.
2008-10-02 19:45:33
480.   Eric Stephen
That was a heck of a pitch for strike 2.
2008-10-02 19:45:40
481.   overkill94
Now the catcher has a misplay! No harm no foul though.
2008-10-02 19:45:41
482.   Bluebleeder87
you know what though, Zambrano has some SICK! movement on those pitches man.
2008-10-02 19:45:52
483.   dodgers82
Mr. Imel youre killin me!!
2008-10-02 19:46:00
484.   larry slimfast
A drag bunt goes down the line but is traditionally down the 3rd base line. Furcal's bunt was a push bunt, a bunt pushed past the pitcher towards a deep middle infielder.
2008-10-02 19:46:12
485.   Eric Stephen
478
We should have gotten a live chicken.
2008-10-02 19:46:26
486.   Gen3Blue
Wow, these Cubs error are going to make the heart of the order come up about four times in six innings. This both brings up dangerous hitters, and raises your pitch count, a hard combo to beat.
2008-10-02 19:46:41
487.   dodgers82
did anyone see Z tellin' Martin something?
2008-10-02 19:46:42
488.   mpm31
478 Thank you. I was beginning to think no one caught that..

Get him next time GG!

2008-10-02 19:47:30
489.   larry slimfast
457 oops, sorry
2008-10-02 19:47:43
490.   underdog
Belated D'oh! ;-) for 456 .

Ay caramba, my pizza's late and now I'm nervous that 5 runs won't be enough of a lead in this park. Too nervous to eat when it finally arrives.

2008-10-02 19:47:52
491.   Alex41592
71 pitches through 4 for Zambrano.
2008-10-02 19:48:36
492.   underdog
475 Or better yet, have Santo sacrificed.
2008-10-02 19:49:14
493.   Bluebleeder87
487

Zambrano from what I heard talks to him self, I wouldn't be to concerned.

2008-10-02 19:49:32
494.   scareduck
492 - huh?
2008-10-02 19:50:26
495.   El Lay Dave
492 Hasn't Santo's body sacrificed enough?
2008-10-02 19:50:31
496.   Bob Timmermann
The Cubs are one error away from the Division Series record.

The Rockies had four in Game 1 of their 1995 series against the Braves (Ritz, Burks, Castilla, and Girardi) and the Braves had four in Game 3 against the Cubs in 2003 (Furcal, Lopez, A Jones, Castilla).

In Game 3 of the 2003 NLDS, the Braves line was 1 2 4.

2008-10-02 19:51:26
497.   slatkin
Interference.
2008-10-02 19:51:31
498.   Disabled List
Interference!
2008-10-02 19:51:41
499.   KG16
Interference, that should be a double play!
2008-10-02 19:51:57
500.   underdog
Put your damned hands down, DLee.
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2008-10-02 19:51:57
501.   Rob M
Isn't that illegal?
2008-10-02 19:52:06
502.   mwhite06
Um, why is Ramirez not out there?
2008-10-02 19:52:06
503.   Alex41592
How is that not interference?
2008-10-02 19:52:12
504.   Bluebleeder87
that play by Lee could have really hurt either him or DeWitt. not cool at all man.
2008-10-02 19:52:19
505.   Tripon
Derek Lee stops a Double play ball by intentionally blocking the ball with his hand.
2008-10-02 19:52:34
506.   slatkin
The most common incidence of interference is when a member of the offensive team physically hinders the defensive team, decreasing their chances to make an out or increasing the chance that a baserunner will advance. Whenever this offensive interference occurs, the ball becomes dead. If the interference was committed by a batter or a baserunner, that player is called out and all other runners must return to the bases they occupied at the time of the interference. If interference is committed by a runner with the obvious intent of preventing a double play, the batter-runner will be called out in addition to the runner who committed the interference.
2008-10-02 19:52:42
507.   scareduck
This is turning into a Cub-tastrophe.
2008-10-02 19:52:45
508.   Who Is Karim Garcia
How is that not interference? No argument at all?
2008-10-02 19:52:57
509.   nofatmike
We never get interference calls in the postseason...
2008-10-02 19:53:03
510.   Gen3Blue
Darn, what has our offense done in the last few inning. We had a chance to put the Cubs away. Oh well, Billz, keep doing and I am praying for you.
2008-10-02 19:53:44
511.   Tripon
508 Don't want to stop Bill's momentum. And we get a DP anyway!
2008-10-02 19:53:47
512.   dodgers82
493, I mean, everyone knows that but he actually looked at Martin the whole time....argh oh well, that was interference
2008-10-02 19:53:57
513.   Bob Timmermann
That play is never called interference. Lee would have to have slid way out of the baselines or tried to put a rolling block on DeWitt.
2008-10-02 19:53:57
514.   thinkblue88
Chad Billingsley is awesome.
2008-10-02 19:53:58
515.   Eric Stephen
God intervenes with another DP opportunity.

And by God I mean Chad.

2008-10-02 19:54:00
516.   Rob M
Chad is looking very, very good.
2008-10-02 19:54:07
517.   slatkin
At least it doesn't matter. Chad had to waste a few more pitches.
2008-10-02 19:54:14
518.   Marty
Man is it nice to have Furcal back at short.
2008-10-02 19:54:18
519.   Alex41592
There we go. 6-4-3.
2008-10-02 19:54:19
520.   overkill94
501 I don't think so. As long as he was sliding toward the bag it doesn't matter. It's like if the runner's halfway to 2nd and you hit him in the head.
2008-10-02 19:54:20
521.   underdog
Oooohhh, yes, let the boos rain down upon the Cubs.
2008-10-02 19:54:22
522.   scareduck
GIDP...
2008-10-02 19:54:22
523.   nofatmike
well that made up for it.
2008-10-02 19:54:24
524.   El Lay Dave
Karma!
2008-10-02 19:54:32
525.   dodgers82
now we actually get a DP, cuz we had no INTERFERENCE!
2008-10-02 19:55:06
526.   El Lay Dave
In fact, Instant Karma.
2008-10-02 19:55:10
527.   Eric Stephen
493 ,512
I didn't see it, but as TBS was going to break, they were showing the crowd and I saw a fan say to his friend "he's staring him down" and pointing to the field. I assumed he was talking Big Z.
2008-10-02 19:55:30
528.   LogikReader
510

I think Big Z settled down quite a bit since the 3rd, but it's still early. He's been pitching pretty well tonight... with a liiiiiiiiiiitle help from the home plate umpire. No biggie.

2008-10-02 19:55:57
529.   Eric Stephen
I can't wait for the story tomorrow about how Manny's first two Ks were only a setup for his HR this inning.
2008-10-02 19:56:03
530.   Gen3Blue
Beautiful DP. In some of these previews DeWitt was a defensive liability. Shame on Baseball Prospective, THT, or whoever.
2008-10-02 19:56:10
531.   Marty
Zambrano will be done soon. Even if they leave him in I think he's ineffective after this inning.
2008-10-02 19:56:21
532.   Disabled List
513 That play should be called interference. Lee was clearly sticking his hand in the air with the intention of deflecting the throw.
2008-10-02 19:56:31
533.   Bluebleeder87
512

that's what pitchers do (due?) D82.

2008-10-02 19:57:09
534.   thinkblue88
wooooooooooooooooooooooo!
2008-10-02 19:57:14
535.   Eric Stephen
529
Ahem.
2008-10-02 19:57:17
536.   overkill94
Manny being Manny!
2008-10-02 19:57:18
537.   KG16
Manny being Manny
2008-10-02 19:57:26
538.   Marty
Nice call Eric!
2008-10-02 19:57:27
539.   Tripon
Manny hits a 2nd homer off the best pitcher in the NL.
2008-10-02 19:57:27
540.   slatkin
Manny is pretty cool.
2008-10-02 19:57:29
541.   Rob M
Wow. He's good. We have a good hitter there.
2008-10-02 19:57:44
542.   Indiana Jon
Manny is just absolutely amazing!
2008-10-02 19:57:47
543.   nick
Manuel.
2008-10-02 19:57:52
544.   Bluebleeder87
Manny Ramirez is just not real man...
2008-10-02 19:57:52
545.   LogikReader
YOU CALLED IT Eric!! hahahaah MANNY!
2008-10-02 19:57:55
546.   mwhite06
529 Good call.
2008-10-02 19:58:03
547.   scareduck
Piniella needs to yank Z.
2008-10-02 19:58:14
548.   Alex41592
Well that ball was...what's the word? Mannyfied!
2008-10-02 19:58:26
549.   KG16
515 - you doubt the Great Dodger in the Sky?
2008-10-02 19:58:30
550.   MonkeyBlue
Manny so good.
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2008-10-02 19:58:31
551.   whodat807
I love Manny Ramirez. I love him as much as a straight man can love another man, if not more.
2008-10-02 19:58:35
552.   Charenton
Last night's connection to the game on TBS via

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/302816
(the link mentionned in DT last night)

…isn't working tonight. I imagine that the final number in the address is different for tonight's broadcast.

I haven't been able to read all 500 messages to find the answer to this question.

2008-10-02 19:58:52
553.   dodgers82
528, Manny's homer must of stopped you in your typing.
2008-10-02 19:58:54
554.   Disabled List
Manny is in the Bonds Zone right now.
2008-10-02 19:59:34
555.   Eric Stephen
549
No sir. I may have over-blasphemed with that one.
2008-10-02 19:59:47
556.   Sam PHL
Manny or Machine?
2008-10-02 19:59:54
557.   El Lay Dave
Props to 486 as well.

Wow, these Cubs error are going to make the heart of the order come up about four times in six innings. This both brings up dangerous hitters, and raises your pitch count, a hard combo to beat.

2008-10-02 20:00:37
558.   Eric Stephen
Bills at 58 pitches through 4.
2008-10-02 20:00:37
559.   Alex41592
I think it's time for the national media to take the Los Angeles Dodgers seriously.
2008-10-02 20:00:50
560.   KG16
556 - I'm already looking forward to Manny's appearance on the Sarah Connor Chronicles
2008-10-02 20:00:56
561.   nick
I love the fact that their own over-simplistic, cliched paradigms are now forcing the media to talk about Manny as a good example!
2008-10-02 20:01:18
562.   dodgerinlv
Is Lou conceding by leaving Zambrono in and saving his BP for another day?
2008-10-02 20:01:27
563.   jasonungar07
20 years. I'm gonna cry, I am so happy. First time I have seen a dodger team in 20 years play as if they belong in the post season. No matter what happens from here.
2008-10-02 20:01:32
564.   KG16
559 - but the Dodgers don't have anything other than Manny Rameriz
2008-10-02 20:02:18
565.   Eric Stephen
556
Things are looking good for you to possibly (knock on wood, of course) see an LCS game involving the blue, no?
2008-10-02 20:02:34
566.   slatkin
I turned the volume off after the announcers basically orgasmed when Soriano got a leadoff single in the first.
2008-10-02 20:02:39
567.   JRSarno
Odds are -- it's time to buy NLCS tix, methinks.
2008-10-02 20:03:02
568.   Rob M
Is there another playoff team that both got all it's key players healthy in time for the playoff AND whose top pitchers are all rested and pitching in more or less top form? Maybe the Rays?

Things have set up very nicely for the Dodgers in that regard.

2008-10-02 20:03:10
569.   underdog
Belated WHOOP!

My pizza arrived and Manny's home run coincided and life is just good all around.

2008-10-02 20:03:27
570.   Bob Timmermann
All this talk of people never seeing the Dodgers play this well in the playoffs make feel old.

Really old.

I feel like I should sit back and tell people about Sandy Koufax's curve ball.

2008-10-02 20:03:37
571.   Eric Stephen
567
Those ticket prices are going up!
2008-10-02 20:04:22
572.   Marty
Matty's having a tough game. I'm glad Manny can shield him a bit.
2008-10-02 20:04:51
573.   Sam PHL
565. Yes, I was at the Phils game tonight. The Victorino slam was great. I have LCS tickets for Philles game 1 and 3. It looks like the Dodgers are making me change my plans of selling tickets to one of those games.
2008-10-02 20:04:59
574.   Tripon
Will Carroll (7:24:45 PM PT): Every time I see Casey Blake play third, I think to myself that he ranges to his left about as much as any 3B I've seen. Is there any stat that would tell me if this is actually the case?
2008-10-02 20:05:08
575.   Eric Stephen
568
I do love the fact that this optimal lineup was trotted out for the first time in Game 1 of the playoffs. Kind of a "just in time" feeling to it.
2008-10-02 20:05:09
576.   John Hale
This takes some getting used to. I had to get used to rooting for a team in the final four with Ben Howland coached teams and this Dodger team could make me feel the same way...
I think I will figure it out.
2008-10-02 20:05:24
577.   Bluebleeder87
562

with Zambrano's arm woes, that wouldn't be a smart move.

2008-10-02 20:06:27
578.   Eric Stephen
A Bill Murray sighting. What about Bills?
2008-10-02 20:06:31
579.   slatkin
Hee, poor Cubs fans.

Wait, what am I saying. They can rot.

2008-10-02 20:06:57
580.   Eric Stephen
574
Speak of the devil. 5-3 groundout!
2008-10-02 20:07:17
581.   dodgers82
Ah man......I dont know why but i felt Manny was gonna do some "Ivy Angels" HAHAHAHA! oh sorry im laughing at my own Jokes.
2008-10-02 20:07:29
582.   Alex41592
Right at the edge of the track.

Two quick outs.

2008-10-02 20:07:56
583.   Eric Stephen
Edmonds has hit a couple high flies (it's too high!) last night and tonight that I thought were out. That's the breaks!
2008-10-02 20:08:57
584.   Eric Stephen
Wooo hooo!! Chad.
2008-10-02 20:08:57
585.   The Dude Abides
Well, this is a thoroughly enjoyable game...so far. I've been watching the game and reading the Bill Simmons article on Manny, and my impression is that it's the most pro-Manny and anti-Boston sportswriter article I've seen since the trade. His main point is that he believes Boras constantly bad-mouthed the Boston front office to Manny, it finally got to Manny, and Manny couldn't pull out of his funk this time. He points out that Boston had let Manny dangle in the press in trade talks for four of the previous six seasons, and Manny pretty much snapped and decided he wanted out of Boston. Boras now stands to collect a hefty commission when signs his new multi-year deal.

Also, Bill still loves Manny, and it's too painful for him to attend Dodger games. Bill really lays into the hypocrisy and guttersniping of the Boston sportswriters, and can't believe that none of them wrote about the Boras angle during all the drama.

2008-10-02 20:09:33
586.   Alex41592
Yeah Bills!
2008-10-02 20:09:33
587.   slatkin
Cubs fans despise Fukodome now. If only it was April every month.
2008-10-02 20:09:52
588.   scareduck
Fukudome is getting a lesson in other words starting with the sixth letter of the alphabet.
2008-10-02 20:10:21
589.   KG16
583 - too high, what do you mean too high?
2008-10-02 20:10:59
590.   Ember Nickel
587 Fukudome shouldn't get too much of the blame for tonight, the infield has been rather more ludicrous.
2008-10-02 20:11:08
591.   overkill94
Masterful job by Chad tonight. I'd let him go one more (two if he has a 10 or less pitch inning) and then let Beimel and McDonald get some work. Is that tempting fate a little too much? You'd still have Wade, Broxton, and Saito available in case something goes awry.
2008-10-02 20:11:49
592.   StolenMonkey86
570 - When Kirk Gibson hit the homer off of Eck, I was 2 years old.

What makes me feel old is that Kershaw is younger than I am.

2008-10-02 20:11:52
593.   LogikReader
569

Pizza! Where'd you order from if you don't mind me asking?

2008-10-02 20:12:34
594.   Disabled List
For such "great" baseball fans, the Cubs and Red Sox faithful sure turn on their own players awfully quickly.

Although I gotta say, Dodger fans been known to do that too.

2008-10-02 20:12:51
595.   Tripon
Sweet Lou looks sad.
2008-10-02 20:13:21
596.   Eric Stephen
That probably should have been caught by Soriano. Make 'em pay, Beard.
2008-10-02 20:13:36
597.   Ian Capilouto
563 I haven't felt this way in looooong time man. I just can't get myself to believe this yet.
2008-10-02 20:14:05
598.   El Lay Dave
68 pitches in 5 for Bills. That's about a 96/7 pace.
2008-10-02 20:14:10
599.   Eric Stephen
592
So, where did you watch the Gibson HR? :)
2008-10-02 20:14:14
600.   Lee Corbett
589 at first, the trajectory of the ball looked way too high
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2008-10-02 20:14:16
601.   scareduck
592 - when Gibby hit the homer off Eckersley, I read about it in the paper and said, oh, that's nice, the Dodgers are in the World Series again.
2008-10-02 20:14:41
602.   fanerman
Yes Chad, just keep owning.
2008-10-02 20:15:07
603.   Tripon
Zambrano hits Casey Blake!
2008-10-02 20:15:09
604.   Ember Nickel
594 Part of the "greatness" is in quantity as well as quality: a larger sample size means more fans who can make their fellows look bad. Probably holds for most teams.
2008-10-02 20:15:19
605.   StolenMonkey86
There's not that much need to let him go more than 7 unless he's really efficient. I'm not sure how much of a believer Torre is in the leave a guy in if he's got a shutout going thing, but as long as he's not throwing too many pitches, it probably couldn't hurt.

I also imagine Torre would pull him after the first run scored, if not the first baserunner of the 8th or 9th.

2008-10-02 20:15:51
606.   El Lay Dave
592 The active player older than me was Julio Franco. I was saddened when he finally stopped getting signed.
2008-10-02 20:16:49
607.   overkill94
He was safe at 2nd!
2008-10-02 20:16:56
608.   Tripon
Aw, Casey Blake was safe!
2008-10-02 20:16:56
609.   Eric Stephen
Hi, I was safe.

Sincerely,

Casey Blake at 2nd.

2008-10-02 20:17:10
610.   Rob M
i don't know about that call.
2008-10-02 20:17:11
611.   KG16
I was 10 years old and in the back seat of the car when Gibby hit the home run. I was watching on TV and my parents decided it was time to go get dinner.

I was bouncing up and down when he came up, I simply knew he was going to hit a home run. I had a lot of fun rubbing it into my friends the next couple of days who all said the A's were going to win.

Wow, nice play by Zambrano, although he was safe.

2008-10-02 20:17:15
612.   superbas
c'mon ump...now billz will run the bases
2008-10-02 20:17:22
613.   whodat807
C'mon, ump!
2008-10-02 20:17:36
614.   nick
TERRIBLE call. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Good time for a bad call, though, if you have to have one....
2008-10-02 20:17:49
615.   Eric Stephen
The luxuries of a 6-run lead means no complaining on that though.
2008-10-02 20:17:51
616.   Tripon
Whats with Soriano jumping at every flyball?
2008-10-02 20:18:41
617.   underdog
I can't believe he was called out on that play. Wow. Zambrano is so lucky. Yeah, I guess Blake decided not to argue at that point, but good lord...
2008-10-02 20:18:42
618.   Icaros
That was a really awful call, especially considering that the ump had a perfect view of the play. It wasn't even close in real time.
2008-10-02 20:19:03
619.   overkill94
I was 8 years old and fast asleep when Gibson hit his homer. Unfortunately I was living in Florida at the time so it was quite late. My dad did wake me up when it happened so that I could see the replay though.
2008-10-02 20:19:06
620.   Eric Stephen
616
That's kind of his signature move. Kind of like Eric Byrnes diving after the catch.
2008-10-02 20:19:22
621.   Bluebleeder87
it turns out it was a close play, but still, tie goes to the runner.
2008-10-02 20:20:25
622.   JRSarno
571 - Stubhub is kinda swelling! But there are some decent tix on there for sure.
2008-10-02 20:21:51
623.   Eric Stephen
Having Zambrano hit here seems kind of stubborn.
2008-10-02 20:22:02
624.   Reddog
Boy, do the Dodgers look good, or what?

Of course, Manny has made a huge difference, but I also think Torre deserves credit. He's helped change the mentality of this team, and they're playing right now like Torre's World Championship Yankees teams.

2008-10-02 20:22:26
625.   larry slimfast
no such thing as a tie
2008-10-02 20:23:29
626.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
Says a lot about their bench that they have Zambrano hit for himself, no matter how good a hitter he is.
2008-10-02 20:23:37
627.   Eric Stephen
Right off the scouting report against Soriano there.
2008-10-02 20:23:57
628.   superbas
chad is good at baseball, i will owe jon a few more dollars after this game!
2008-10-02 20:24:04
629.   underdog
You know Cub fans are booing their own hitters, which I totally understand the frustration, but I wonder if they realize just how good Billingsley is pitching, too.
2008-10-02 20:24:05
630.   Humma Kavula
This game, so far, is receiving the much-coveted Humma Kavula Seal of Approval.

Bride of Kavula and I have tickets for Saturday and we are getting very excited for that.

2008-10-02 20:24:07
631.   whodat807
This is a coming out party for Bills against this supposedly mighty Cub offense.
2008-10-02 20:24:10
632.   bigcpa
comic relief from my 5 yr old:

"Too bad the Cubs don't have Manny!"

2008-10-02 20:24:14
633.   Alex41592
Man that breaking pitch is just tremendous.
2008-10-02 20:24:18
634.   Eric Stephen
Clapping loudly for Chad right now.
2008-10-02 20:24:30
635.   Tripon
This is a great coming out party for Bills. Just amazing.
2008-10-02 20:24:32
636.   Marty
Chad is the man!
2008-10-02 20:24:51
637.   Sam PHL
Hmm, this Billingsley kid might actually be a good pitcher. Who knew?
2008-10-02 20:25:03
638.   slatkin
Bills looks great. I think Lou is just saving the bullpen for a game he thinks he can win.
2008-10-02 20:25:03
639.   Bluebleeder87
625

well I guess if you wanna break it down by milli seconds...

2008-10-02 20:27:34
640.   underdog
626 Yah, but it does say a lot about Zambrano as a hitter, too. He's not just pretty good, he's really good -- 333-ish average, 4 HRs. A lot of teams don't have PH's that good.
2008-10-02 20:28:54
641.   Alex41592
If there is a Game 4 on Sunday that game will be at 7:25 pacific time.

http://www.insidesocal.com/dodgers/

2008-10-02 20:29:14
642.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Guys, HOW SWEET IT IS!
2008-10-02 20:29:33
643.   fanerman
640 You forgot to have an (ahem) at the end of that comment.
2008-10-02 20:30:01
644.   nick
Z has a career obp of .246 in about 500 OPA, and it's a dumb move to let this year's small sample size induce you to have him lead off---his lifetime OPS+ is 60. Not good.
2008-10-02 20:30:19
645.   Icaros
Zambrano and Martin look like they want to fight.
2008-10-02 20:30:25
646.   KG16
641 - with all due respect, for all of you who have tickets to game 4, I hope you get refunds next week.
2008-10-02 20:30:40
647.   Tripon
Yeah, but you need Zambrano's for a possible game five. And he's not looking sharp against Manny.
2008-10-02 20:31:05
648.   MonkeyBlue
Wanted no part of Manny.
2008-10-02 20:31:11
649.   KG16
Manny, three true outcomes in four plate appearances.
2008-10-02 20:31:27
650.   Bluebleeder87
it mind boggles my mind how much movement Zambrano gets with those 95mph fastballs, it's just amazing.

the only thing is that there not strikes.

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2008-10-02 20:32:22
651.   mwhite06
Listening to the TBS crew, I don't think they realize Chad has outpitched Zambrano.
2008-10-02 20:32:52
652.   Alex41592
Neal Cotts is in for the Cubs.
2008-10-02 20:33:03
653.   Tripon
Oh wow. Is Zambrano crying?
2008-10-02 20:33:22
654.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Is he.... is.... IS HE CRYING? There's no crying in baseball.
2008-10-02 20:33:58
655.   larry slimfast
639 Sorry, pet peeve of mine. I got thrown out of a game for arguing that once. I came back with a physics book. Then I almost got beat up. It was awesome.
2008-10-02 20:34:16
656.   fanerman
651 I bet it's the thighs.

I don't mind that he's under the radar. From what he's said, he doesn't mind either.

2008-10-02 20:34:33
657.   Eric Stephen
632
Hilarious!

On a side note, man is Saturday going to be amazing or what. I anticipate the excitement factor will be overflowing.

2008-10-02 20:34:48
658.   Alex41592
I put the TBS sound up for a second. Guys seriously. This is NOT a Cubs home feed. You don't have to sound so depressed. My goodness.
2008-10-02 20:35:13
659.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
651 I try not to listen but I was thinking the same thing. Dick Stockton used to all but root for the Celtics against the Lakers back in the day when he called the NBA Finals.
2008-10-02 20:35:24
660.   Tripon
So do arbitration hearings take post seasons into accounts?

Because if so, Russell Martin going to earn a lot more after this post season.

2008-10-02 20:35:38
661.   El Lay Dave
651 Chad is throwing a TWO-hitter, how can anyone not realize that?
2008-10-02 20:35:41
662.   Bluebleeder87
653 654

you guys are bad.

2008-10-02 20:35:49
663.   nick
Ethier has just completely stopped swinging at balls outside the zone--
2008-10-02 20:36:45
664.   Tripon
How can Niel Cox be imploding! It's 6-0 Dodgers, there should be no pressure on him!
2008-10-02 20:37:27
665.   Disabled List
Who is more agonized right now?

A) Cubs fans
B) Fox TV executives

2008-10-02 20:37:47
666.   Tripon
Chad Billingsly, two hits, 1 walk, 6 strike outs, 6 innings so far.

This is so awesome.

2008-10-02 20:37:54
667.   Bob Timmermann
Niel Cox?
2008-10-02 20:37:55
668.   Sam PHL
Let's Go Dodgers chants in Wrigley. Awesome!
2008-10-02 20:37:56
669.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
Not for nothing, but if they're going to show women in the stands, can they show someone younger than 80?
2008-10-02 20:38:01
670.   scareduck
657 - we just bought tickets to the Saturday game and already Helen said she doesn't want to go.
2008-10-02 20:38:07
671.   Who Is Karim Garcia
661

... because the cubbies are so sad. And crying baby bears are not fun.

2008-10-02 20:38:13
672.   Eric Stephen
Nice hustle, Lomey! :)
2008-10-02 20:38:35
673.   Tripon
Neal Cotts, not Niel. Sorry.
2008-10-02 20:38:46
674.   Humma Kavula
What will be the story of this game?

(a) Chad Billingsley shows the NL's best offense who's boss

(b) Cubs beat themselves

2008-10-02 20:38:55
675.   Indiana Jon
665 Fox.

Cubs fans are used to the disappointment.

2008-10-02 20:39:02
676.   KG16
huh, normally a ground ball by Loney to the shortstop means a double play. things are really not going the Cubs way.
2008-10-02 20:39:10
677.   scareduck
665 - Phillies vs. Dodgers can't be too bad. In the AL, it's looking like a Rays vs. Red Sox series. Neither of those are terrible.
2008-10-02 20:39:12
678.   MonkeyBlue
Come on Bison! believe!
2008-10-02 20:39:15
679.   Bluebleeder87
661

in all honesty, if the game was beeing played in L.A. I would like to think the broadcasters would be praising Billz A LOT more.

kind of like what Bob was saying yesterday about the crowd dictating the broadcasters mood.

2008-10-02 20:39:29
680.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Tripon.... spelling!

It's Neal Cotts and Chad Billingsley.

2008-10-02 20:39:32
681.   The Dude Abides
662
After this game is over, I will feel bad for Zambrano. Not before! He didn't pitch too badly at all, although the two errors in the big inning were on balls that were hit pretty hard.
2008-10-02 20:39:34
682.   scareduck
674 - with four unearned runs, I'll take (b).
2008-10-02 20:39:53
683.   Alex41592
665 - A

Fox still has another great World Series on the table should the Cubs not get there.

It involves certain players and a manager returning to a certain location. Peter Gammons approves this message.

2008-10-02 20:40:18
684.   Eric Stephen
Time for the Bison to roam free!
2008-10-02 20:40:35
685.   El Lay Dave
674 Manny homered. Torre managed.
2008-10-02 20:40:39
686.   thinkblue88
BISON! BISON!
2008-10-02 20:40:47
687.   Sam PHL
Bison!
2008-10-02 20:40:53
688.   Tripon
Matt Kemp! Bison double power!
2008-10-02 20:40:55
689.   Humma Kavula
BISON POWER, BISON SPEED!
2008-10-02 20:40:56
690.   The Dude Abides
Bison solid! Going the other way!
2008-10-02 20:40:59
691.   MonkeyBlue
Bison! power!
2008-10-02 20:41:03
692.   fanerman
Bison!!!
2008-10-02 20:41:06
693.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
665 B, but only because LA fans don't care and no one will watch.
2008-10-02 20:41:06
694.   KG16
674 - a little from column A, a little from column B.
2008-10-02 20:41:21
695.   Alex41592
Great piece of hitting by Kemp.
2008-10-02 20:41:23
696.   Eric Stephen
I'm going to channel BH on the flip side for the Cubs, and say guys, the Cubs have 0 runs. Hard to blame the pitching/defense when the offense doesn't score.
2008-10-02 20:41:39
697.   superbas
heart of the order for cubs, one more inning for billz?
2008-10-02 20:41:41
698.   scareduck
Cotts gives the Dodgers another run to add to both the Cubs' misery and Zambrano's postseason ERA.
2008-10-02 20:41:52
699.   Bluebleeder87
if I were managing the Dodgers I'd bring in McDonald here (why not) i mean, we have a 7 run lead...
2008-10-02 20:41:56
700.   Icaros
682

Is the wife reading over your shoulder? Take away those 4 unearned and it's still a three-run lead.

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2008-10-02 20:42:05
701.   fanerman
674 For all our efforts to prove that Clayton doesn't exist, it's Chad who's somehow invisible.
2008-10-02 20:42:08
702.   Marty
Ah, That makes me happy for Matt. He's my favorite player still.
2008-10-02 20:42:40
703.   Who Is Karim Garcia
In your face ESPN.

For once, Gammons might get it right.

2008-10-02 20:43:13
704.   Icaros
699

Is he on the playoff roster?

2008-10-02 20:43:21
705.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
674 Little bit of both, but Dodgers would be up now even with no errors, so I'm hoping for more of a. I'm liking the multiple choice questions.
2008-10-02 20:43:37
706.   scareduck
Of course, should the Dodgers power their way to the World Series, they would end up squished by the Rays or Red Sox. Though I wouldn't mind the Red Sox going down in flames; the postseason has gotten positively boring with them sweeping every team they encounter. Frankly, Boston has been responsible for the least interesting World Series games in this millennium.
2008-10-02 20:43:37
707.   Who Is Karim Garcia
699

Agreed.

2008-10-02 20:44:04
708.   superbas
i love kemp but he looks very timid and weak in big situations.
2008-10-02 20:44:10
709.   Eric Stephen
704
Yes, over Troncoso.
2008-10-02 20:44:14
710.   Disabled List
If Chad doesn't go for the CG, I'd love to see Kershaw get a few reps in.
2008-10-02 20:44:26
711.   The Dude Abides
I do believe that Bills would pitch a hypothetical Game 5, so I say let him go seven or eight tonight, with Sammy pitching the ninth to stay sharp.
2008-10-02 20:44:27
712.   waterboy100
592
im 23 tomorrow and what makes me feel old are players like kershaw and kopitar (la kings) who are a few years younger tham me and playing in the big time while i am working for peanuts (even though im doing something i love)
2008-10-02 20:44:27
713.   scareduck
700 - yes, but I think the chokage is affecting the offense, too.
2008-10-02 20:44:54
714.   Tripon
Its the Dodgers! Its the Bills! Its the team that's shocking the baseball world!
2008-10-02 20:45:06
715.   Eric Stephen
706
Of course, should the Dodgers power their way to the World Series, they would end up squished by the Rays or Red Sox

Hey, if it worked 4 weeks ago, why not try the reverse jinx some more!

2008-10-02 20:45:38
716.   KG16
697 - I'm in the minority around here on this, but am a big believer in not pulling a pitcher throwing a gem until he's either in trouble or asks to be taken out.
2008-10-02 20:45:55
717.   underdog
I actually think the TBS crew has been pretty praiseworthy of the Dodgers in this game. I've watched the whole thing, but they've been praising Billingsley (Gwynn last inning said "A lot of credit should go to the guy on the hill for the Dodgers, Billingsley has pitched great.") Etc. They are kinda of dull sounding, but I don't think they've been ignoring the Dodgers.
2008-10-02 20:46:05
718.   LogikReader
Boy how much is Fox loving this? They really lucked out and got the more exciting matchup with the NLCS, unless somehow the two Sox teams meet up in the AL.
2008-10-02 20:46:17
719.   Eric Stephen
716
Especially since Chad's pitch count is low and his next start is on at least 4 days rest.
2008-10-02 20:46:36
720.   Tripon
Heard the Cubs are going to fly tomorrow, and not late tonight due to letting their players have a good night's sleep. Can't see them sleeping well tonight.
2008-10-02 20:47:19
721.   Eric Stephen
1999 featured the Pedro 6.1 relief no-no!
2008-10-02 20:47:32
722.   Icaros
713

You just seem to be kind of hating on a pretty positive moment (for Dodgers fans), what with the already predicting destruction at the hands of the Red Rays and such.

2008-10-02 20:47:43
723.   Bluebleeder87
I hope ESPN pimps Billz tonight.
2008-10-02 20:47:50
724.   Daniel Zappala
Only 88 pitches?
2008-10-02 20:47:55
725.   Bob Timmermann
So is all the talk of the 2001 Yankees making us feel worried that Ryan Theriot is going to make some incredible play on Saturday?
2008-10-02 20:48:00
726.   waterboy100
592
im 23 tomorrow and what makes me feel old are players like kershaw and kopitar (la kings) who are a few years younger tham me and playing in the big time while i am working for peanuts (even though im doing something i love)
2008-10-02 20:48:02
727.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
712 Wait until some of the guys you're watching now wind up as coaches, then you'll REALLY feel old!
2008-10-02 20:48:08
728.   KG16
720 - you'd be amazed how well you sleep after drinking a bottle of vodka.
2008-10-02 20:48:13
729.   Alex41592
May we have a current game score for Bills?
2008-10-02 20:48:14
730.   fanerman
Oh ye. Getting some props.
2008-10-02 20:48:26
731.   superbas
billz look strong today because he was rested, i wouldn't stretch him past 90-100 pitches.
2008-10-02 20:48:31
732.   Tripon
TBS and Gwynn praising Bills right now.
2008-10-02 20:49:16
733.   Tripon
92 pitches for Bills.
2008-10-02 20:49:18
734.   El Lay Dave
727 LOL
2008-10-02 20:49:51
735.   El Lay Dave
Bills keeping up the K per inning pace.
2008-10-02 20:50:24
736.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
This should be his last hitter no matter what.
2008-10-02 20:50:27
737.   Eric Stephen
Aw crap, I thought Kemp had that one!!!
2008-10-02 20:50:30
738.   waterboy100
727 yeah. i have got a ways to go with that one..actually for being so young (comparatively) i think i have had a great share of sports memories.
2008-10-02 20:50:34
739.   slatkin
Damned plants.
2008-10-02 20:50:34
740.   Alex41592
This is the National League Division Series. Bills goes until he's done he's just tremendous tonight.
2008-10-02 20:50:40
742.   Bluebleeder87
almost, ALMOST for Kemp.
2008-10-02 20:50:42
743.   Tripon
Cubs score on a double. Matt Kemp was lost the ball in the Ivy.
2008-10-02 20:50:43
744.   whodat807
ARGH so close. Oh well, Bills is still pitching brilliantly.
2008-10-02 20:50:44
745.   fanerman
I thought The Bison had that.
2008-10-02 20:51:32
746.   scareduck
Chad now has a non-zero ERA.
2008-10-02 20:51:34
747.   KG16
I thought Kemp had that one. Oh well, not time to panic.
2008-10-02 20:51:37
748.   Disabled List
Edmonds has really been pounding those warning-track fly balls in this series.
2008-10-02 20:51:39
749.   Tripon
This should be Bills last inning, just get the out and say good game for Chad.
2008-10-02 20:51:44
750.   Humma Kavula
He's given up a few hard-hit balls now.

He's pitched great and now he might be nearing the end of the line. Still, this has been nothing but remarkable.

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2008-10-02 20:51:56
751.   dzzrtRatt
Robot Made of Nails v. Ivy. Ivy loses.
2008-10-02 20:51:56
752.   waterboy100
time to pull billz? no need to jam him up...
2008-10-02 20:52:13
753.   Tripon
Torre pulling Chad, for a double switch.
2008-10-02 20:52:20
754.   slatkin
Man, at least let him pitch to Fukodome.
2008-10-02 20:52:25
755.   KG16
double switch by Joe.
2008-10-02 20:52:31
756.   scareduck
Billingsley has to get Fukudome right now.
2008-10-02 20:52:35
757.   Bluebleeder87
i guess one of Wade or Beimel will be coming in.
2008-10-02 20:52:58
758.   underdog
Okay, good to remove him there. Great job Chad. Now the 'pen has to not implode. Which can happen in a place like Wrigley.

Also, I really hate the ivy at Wrigley.

2008-10-02 20:52:59
759.   KG16
751 - it's the Wall Made of Bricks backing up the Ivy that worries me.
2008-10-02 20:53:10
760.   Tripon
96 pitches for Billingsley
2008-10-02 20:53:22
761.   scareduck
Angel Berroa is coming in to play second. How nice, the Dodgers are giving the Cubs a chance to score on an error.
2008-10-02 20:53:27
762.   Alex41592
Berroa in, DeWitt out. Bills out, Wade in.
2008-10-02 20:53:55
763.   The Dude Abides
Bummer...it all started with Chad not going to his low cutter again on that 1-2 pitch to DeRosa. Tried to sneak a high fastball by him and DeRosa was looking for it. OK, we need to get this final out here. Let's go Wade!
2008-10-02 20:54:10
764.   LogikReader
When does Wrigley usually shut down the organ and house music, per neighborhood code?
2008-10-02 20:54:29
765.   Sub4Era
754 Hes done his job, no sense in pushing it. Hes got hit hard 3 straight batters. Let Wade do what hes done all year.
2008-10-02 20:54:34
766.   MonkeyBlue
Berroa for Dewitt? Really?
2008-10-02 20:54:34
767.   Humma Kavula
I would have supported him facing Fukudome as his last batter, but Chad was at the end of the line.
2008-10-02 20:54:45
768.   superbas
i'd rather just have blake in there instead of the defensive replacement(?) berroa
2008-10-02 20:54:45
769.   whodat807
I know it was a double switch, but couldn't they find a worse glove to replace than DeWitt?
2008-10-02 20:55:08
770.   Eric Stephen
I blame myself for the run & rally. I was working on a post showing the highest Dodger game scores in postseason history. With two outs I copied it and was about to paste it when the first double happened.

If Bills would have got DeRosa out, his game score would be 79, tied for 11th with among others two Koufax starts in the 1963 WS.

2008-10-02 20:55:14
771.   KG16
Dear Cubs' fans:

wrong sport, wrong decade if you're looking for a miracle

Thanks,

KG

2008-10-02 20:55:28
772.   Tripon
Angel Berroa in at 2nd base, with Cory Wade on the mound. To force Fukudome in the game due to Fukudome being a lefty.
2008-10-02 20:55:39
773.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
761 I don't see the need for the double switch either, just let Wade hit if you need him to pitch another inning. Did Darling just say that Berroa is an upgrade defensively?!?!?!
2008-10-02 20:56:05
774.   The Dude Abides
WADE!!!!
2008-10-02 20:56:12
775.   Eric Stephen
767
Chad was at the end of the line.

Well, it's aaaalllll right...

2008-10-02 20:56:12
776.   Alex41592
Man what an 0-1 pitch by Wade.
2008-10-02 20:56:19
777.   Icaros
You gotta catch that, Bison.
2008-10-02 20:56:19
778.   Tripon
Berroa played 2nd for a few innings yesterday.
2008-10-02 20:56:27
779.   superbas
wade...you're so money you don't even know it!
2008-10-02 20:56:31
780.   underdog
They're saying Boookudome! Booookudome!
2008-10-02 20:56:45
781.   MonkeyBlue
Nice just three pitches.
2008-10-02 20:56:52
782.   Sam PHL
Well done, Chad.
2008-10-02 20:56:54
783.   scareduck
The only question was how Fukudome would make an out. He's been terrible in the second half.
2008-10-02 20:57:05
784.   Icaros
Whoa, 777 was very delayed. Glad the Cory Hotline put out the fire.
2008-10-02 20:57:28
785.   Disabled List
The home plate umpires in this series have been awful.
2008-10-02 20:57:45
786.   Tripon
This really shouldn't be happening. I'm all scared of what we'll see with a close game.
2008-10-02 20:57:50
787.   MollyKnight
What a tremendous effort by Billingsley. What a wonderful night.
2008-10-02 20:58:07
788.   KG16
785 - well, hopefully, we only have to deal with them for one more game.
2008-10-02 20:58:08
789.   KG16
785 - well, hopefully, we only have to deal with them for one more game.
2008-10-02 20:58:14
790.   Alex41592
Torre had a choice:

Wade vs. Fukudome

OR

Beimel vs. Reed Johnson

Torre chose wisely.

2008-10-02 20:58:40
791.   Tripon
783 Why would Lou leave Fukudome in the game? Torre basically baited him with calling Wade to relieve.
2008-10-02 20:58:41
792.   The Dude Abides
Great move by Joe. Keep Fukudome in the game by going to his righty. He knew Lou would bring a righty off the bench if he brought in Beimel. Now let's get some more runs!
2008-10-02 20:58:43
793.   Eric Stephen
770
Since I was already working on this anyway...

Highest Game Scores, Dodger Postseason History
89 - Drysdale, Gm 3 1963 WS, 1-0 shutout
88 - Koufax, Gm 7 1965 WS, 2-0 series clincher
88 - Koufax, Gm 5 1965 WS, two within a 4-day period!
87 - Hershiser, Gm 2 1988 WS, 3-0 shutout
84 - Sutton, Gm 1 1974 NLCS, 3-0 shutout
82 - Sherry Smith, Gm 2 1916 WS, 2-1 14-inning loss to Babe Ruth!
81 - John, Gm 2 1978 NLCS, 4-0 shutout
80 - The Lima Game
80 - Hershiser, Gm 7 1988 NLCS, 6-0 shutout
80 - Hooton, Gm 2 1977 WS, 6-1 CG
79 - Koufax, Gm 4 1963 WS, 2-1 series-clincher
79 - Koufax, Gm 1 1963 WS, 5-2 plus a then-record 15 K
79 - Newcombe, Gm 1 1947 WS, 1-0 loss to Allie Reynolds
79 - Sherry Smith, Gm 3 1920 WS, 2-1 win

Chad ended up at 66. Following up Lowe's 55 last night.

2008-10-02 20:58:57
794.   Alex41592
Marmol is in.
2008-10-02 20:59:00
795.   underdog
784 $4.95 a minute.

Here are some words that rhyme with Cory: Gory. Story. Allegory. Montessori.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

2008-10-02 20:59:09
796.   Disabled List
Frank Caliendo will be haunting my nightmares.
2008-10-02 20:59:50
797.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
The balls were bouncing perfectly Cal, they just didn't bother catching them.
2008-10-02 20:59:57
798.   Eric Stephen
This game is great vindication for people who have to deal with sporky's ex-coworker or some of my family RE: Chad.
2008-10-02 21:00:29
799.   Tripon
Casey Blake singles!

And for some reason TBS switched to their studio analysts to broadcast the game.

2008-10-02 21:00:38
800.   KG16
why is the TBS studio crew doing commentary?

Eck talking about winning post season games in LA is, nice.

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2008-10-02 21:00:44
801.   whodat807
Geez, these guys are really pulling for the Cubs, it seems.
2008-10-02 21:00:50
802.   MollyKnight
I hope people speak less about the Cubs curse and more about the Dodgers dominance.

Hey-o, unintentional alliteration.

2008-10-02 21:01:28
803.   Tripon
I think I see Steve Bartman! Oh, it was just a guy who kinda looked like him.
2008-10-02 21:01:39
804.   underdog
Did you know that Chad Marmol is part-Vulcan?

Little-known fact, Sammy.

2008-10-02 21:01:50
805.   Eric Stephen
The Beard can slide!!!

Way to get that run back, boys!!!

2008-10-02 21:01:56
806.   Tripon
Oh wow, Marmol gives up a double to Furcal.
2008-10-02 21:01:56
807.   fanerman
Torre-Ball.
2008-10-02 21:01:58
808.   DaDoughboy
Yes. Sliding beard power!
2008-10-02 21:01:58
809.   mpm31
Nice slide by The Beard!
2008-10-02 21:02:03
810.   Icaros
Yes, crush their hopes and dreams.
2008-10-02 21:02:05
811.   superbas
meh we don't need any more runs...save 'em for harden pls.
2008-10-02 21:02:08
812.   KG16
wow, Blake just stole another run. Wrigley does not seem like a happy place for the locals.
2008-10-02 21:02:08
813.   nick
They're not booing--they're saying "FOOOOORCAL"!
2008-10-02 21:02:19
814.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
802 Yeah right, but whatever, one more win and it won't matter.
2008-10-02 21:02:19
815.   Eric Stephen
I loves me some Furcal!!!
2008-10-02 21:02:21
816.   The Dude Abides
Folks, that's Dodger execution! We must also remember that Marmol is filthy.
2008-10-02 21:02:23
817.   thinkblue88
Furrrrcal!
2008-10-02 21:02:26
818.   JRSarno
Woe is the Cubs, according to this TBS studio crew. Making me SICK. Give credit where credit is due!!! MUTE BABY.
2008-10-02 21:02:26
819.   MollyKnight
Oh, Raffy. Welcome back.
2008-10-02 21:02:31
820.   underdog
MAN is it good to have Raffy back or what?

He's so dreamy!

2008-10-02 21:02:31
821.   Bob Timmermann
That was a single + FC.
2008-10-02 21:02:36
822.   scareduck
Have cake. Eat cake.
2008-10-02 21:02:37
823.   Alex41592
Great slide by Casey! Furcal 3 for 5 tonight!
2008-10-02 21:02:43
824.   Sam PHL
The narrative of this series is now the curse and the poor Cubs fans. The outcome has nothing to do with the Dodgers. Blah.
2008-10-02 21:02:56
825.   Disabled List
Oh man, I'm so glad Furcal is back. That could be the difference-maker, people!
2008-10-02 21:03:28
826.   Eric Stephen
The Cubs fan forgot to take his rally cap off when the Dodgers are batting. Hence the run!
2008-10-02 21:03:45
827.   underdog
{cue more sad panda faces in the crowd, X20}
2008-10-02 21:03:55
828.   Bob Timmermann
I guess Arizona didn't win in the NLDS last year on merit either. It was just the curse.
2008-10-02 21:03:55
829.   KG16
Russ, that should have been in the bleachers.
2008-10-02 21:04:15
830.   Ken Noe
There's a guy in the stands that looks like Penny. He's wearing a Cubs jacket and half a watermelon in his head. The melon has a "C" carved into it.
2008-10-02 21:04:21
831.   Eric Stephen
I love Raffy so much, I'm going to start singing Baby Baluga any second now!
2008-10-02 21:04:22
832.   Tripon
824 meanwhile the Dodgers are still scoring runs.

9-1 Dodgers!

2008-10-02 21:04:26
833.   DaDoughboy
Umm, hey guys, we actually have an ok team, it's not just the fact that the Cubs aren't playing great. I know it's hard to believe and all..

9-1.

2008-10-02 21:04:29
834.   MrCourt123
Pour it on baby!!
2008-10-02 21:04:38
835.   thinkblue88
Wow. this is just incredible.
2008-10-02 21:04:41
836.   Rob M
Wow. Our lineup is seemingly relentless.
2008-10-02 21:04:41
837.   The Dude Abides
Awesome...great power hitters force the outfielders to play deep. You make your own breaks.
2008-10-02 21:04:56
838.   KG16
what's the rule for where the pitcher is suppose to start with the ball? I thought it had to start in the glove, but this guy is holding it outside the glove.
2008-10-02 21:05:18
839.   fanerman
Andre Ethier's hair makes him look like a whiter, less chunkier Magglio.
2008-10-02 21:05:21
840.   MonkeyBlue
What a Delicious night.
2008-10-02 21:05:45
841.   Alex41592
This is total utter domination.
2008-10-02 21:06:19
842.   Tripon
Sad Cubs fans is bringing out the schadenfreude in me. Hopefully this doesn't bite us in Dodgers stadium, because that would be depressing. I do not want to see sad Dodgers fans in snow.
2008-10-02 21:06:33
843.   Bob Timmermann
838
There is no rule where the ball has to "start." The pitcher just has to be at a complete stop before the pitch if there are runners on base. And one foot must be touching the rubber.
2008-10-02 21:06:34
844.   Eric Stephen
838
The pitcher just has to come to a set position, which Marmol is doing before the pitch.
2008-10-02 21:06:40
845.   underdog
Too bad JR muted the TV. He missed yet another time where Gywnn, Darling and Stockton gave the Dodgers a lot of credit. I guess I'm watching a different game.
2008-10-02 21:06:51
846.   Alex41592
Tony Gwynn is stepping up and talking about the Dodgers. Dick Stockton sounds totally depressed.
2008-10-02 21:06:55
847.   El Lay Dave
The cumulative score in the series so far is 16-3. So sweet!
2008-10-02 21:06:57
848.   The Dude Abides
LOL...Andre was sitting DEAD RED on that 3-2 curve.
2008-10-02 21:07:46
849.   Humma Kavula
Dodgers 16, Cubs 3 so far
2008-10-02 21:07:49
850.   Sam PHL
16 runs scored, 3 runs against. I think that translates to a 2-0 Pythag record.
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2008-10-02 21:07:54
851.   dodgaBLU
I must be dreaming 9-1 and only 1.5 innings to go...

don't wake me up

2008-10-02 21:08:13
852.   Eric Stephen
Since I've been able to grow facial hair:

Dodgers record when I don't have a playoff beard: 1-12

Dodgers record when I do have a playoff beard: 2-0*

*assuming 9-1 holds up (sorry Fanerman)

2008-10-02 21:09:11
853.   Bob Timmermann
Someone asked earlier about the organ music at Wrigley. It's supposed to stop at 9:20 pm (as do beer sales) for night games, but I would assume that those regulations are waived for playoff games.
2008-10-02 21:09:19
854.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
They're not booing they're chanting LOUUUUUUUUU
2008-10-02 21:09:26
855.   Indiana Jon
852 Shave the beard and we vote you off the island.
2008-10-02 21:09:31
856.   underdog
Seriously I think Stockton is less depressed than he is on some sort of anxiety medication. He's just so drowsy. But the other guys have been fine imho.
2008-10-02 21:09:46
857.   mpm31
Will we see McDonald in the 9th?
2008-10-02 21:09:51
858.   Tripon
Wade's in for the 8th inning.
2008-10-02 21:09:56
859.   MonkeyBlue
I would rather have Park pitch and then Maddux again.
2008-10-02 21:10:04
860.   Eric Stephen
850
Only a .966 winning % :)
2008-10-02 21:10:25
861.   underdog
852 See, I should've done that one instead of the no showering thing. Not that that lasted very long. Thankfully.

This is shocking domination.

2008-10-02 21:10:31
862.   ucladodger
I was confident that the team could win these two games, but not like this. It just shows what amazing pitching and the addition of Rafael Furcal can do the lineup. He just changes everything. That b unt totally changed the game around. So fun to watch.
2008-10-02 21:11:22
863.   MollyKnight
I would just like to point out that the Dodgers are undefeated in the playoffs in my dog's lifetime.
2008-10-02 21:11:29
864.   fanerman
862 Nice answer, but completely wrong. The correct answer is Joe Torre and Manny Ramirez.
2008-10-02 21:11:33
865.   Tripon
It helps that the Cubs defense stopped playing defense for large stretches of this game.
2008-10-02 21:11:42
866.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
I'm pretty sure that's Penny with the watermelon on top of his head.
2008-10-02 21:12:21
867.   Ken Noe
Dick Stockton is 66 years old. It's past his bedtime. It's past my bedtime.
2008-10-02 21:12:42
868.   Tripon
Who's throwing out the first pitch at Dodgers stadium? Tommy Lasroda?
2008-10-02 21:12:49
869.   underdog
Wade only threw three pitches in the previous inning so I don't mind him coming in again. Don't give them any chance to get back in the game at all.
2008-10-02 21:12:54
870.   Neal Pollack
THIS IS THE GREATEST NIGHT OF MY LIFE!!!!!!
2008-10-02 21:12:58
871.   Humma Kavula
862 I was not confident. I thought the Cubs were better than the Dodgers are and that though a Dodger victory was possible, it was not necessarily the most likely outcome.

I am pleasantly surprised by the outcome.

2008-10-02 21:12:58
872.   Ken Noe
866 It could explain a lot.
2008-10-02 21:13:15
873.   DaDoughboy
Tony Gwynn thought we would make this a 'very competitive series'. I'd say..
2008-10-02 21:13:37
874.   Alex41592
Cory Wade can pitch anytime Torre sees fit.
2008-10-02 21:13:38
875.   Sam PHL
I don't know why, but I really like the watermelon-head guy. I'm tired of seeing the other Cubs fans, however.
2008-10-02 21:13:48
876.   MonkeyBlue
Wade is godly.
2008-10-02 21:13:49
877.   Bluebleeder87
857

I hope so. either him or Kershaw like somebody else mentioned.

2008-10-02 21:13:52
878.   Neal Pollack
Well, maybe not, but it's been nearly a lifetime since I've seen the Dodgers play like this in the postseason. Amazing.
2008-10-02 21:14:01
879.   slatkin
I swear Stockton just said "Cory Raid"
2008-10-02 21:14:18
880.   Tripon
TBS crew says that the Dodgers pursuit of the D'backs trained them for playoff baseball, while the Cubs ease into the postseason hurt them.
2008-10-02 21:14:24
881.   thinkblue88
868.
Duke Snider, Don Newcombe.
2008-10-02 21:14:29
882.   underdog
863 My cat alas does not have the same record. This would make his post-season record 3-9. (Born in 94)
2008-10-02 21:14:35
883.   fanerman
I can't think of any words that rhyme with "Cory" that have something to do with baseball.
2008-10-02 21:14:56
884.   Ember Nickel
Dodgers have nine times the runs, obviously...on twice as many hits.
2008-10-02 21:15:42
885.   Disabled List
I have not trimmed my beard since the beginning of September. I just wanted to see what my normal close-cropped facial hair would look like if I let it get all shaggy.

But then the Dodgers went on a huge tear. And now they're in the playoffs. And they're still on a tear. And my face is now REALLY HAIRY. And it's itchy. And I really, really want to trim it, but I don't dare. GRRRR.

I don't know how those hockey players do it.

2008-10-02 21:15:52
886.   underdog
Also, I am perfectly happy to have Chan Ho Park go nowhere near the mound at Wrigley. Dodger Stadium, okay, if necessary.
2008-10-02 21:15:52
887.   Tripon
883 This game is pretty danged gory.
2008-10-02 21:15:57
888.   kadycee
I haven't had a chance to post anything here this season - but I had to dig out my password and say...I'm in Dodger Heaven.
2008-10-02 21:16:08
889.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
875 I'm kind of fond of him myself, I think he's way funnier than Frank Caliendo.

879 Leave the poor guy alone it's sleepy time

2008-10-02 21:16:12
890.   Indiana Jon
883 Torre?
2008-10-02 21:16:36
891.   Ember Nickel
Lorey?
2008-10-02 21:17:32
892.   Jacob Burch
I'm still knocking wood here, for the series. Two games is not a huge lock, historical data be damned. Dodgers can't sleep at home and rest on their laurels.

That said, what a great game!

2008-10-02 21:17:52
893.   alexx
http://www.cubworld.com/category/a_cubworld_cam

Check out all the fans leaving. Ha!

2008-10-02 21:18:00
894.   Tripon
Ron Santo looks crushed.
2008-10-02 21:18:02
895.   fanerman
890 Okay, but seeing Wade strike someone out and saying, "Here are some words that rhyme with Cory: Torre" doesn't quite work.
2008-10-02 21:18:06
896.   Alex41592
Oh TBS don't show Santo that's just cruel.
2008-10-02 21:18:27
897.   superbas
man i hope we do all these poor cubs fans a favor and not come back here again this year...they look so sad :(
2008-10-02 21:18:36
898.   underdog
Yay! Ron Santo Sad Panda shot.
2008-10-02 21:18:39
899.   LoneStar7
hey all, just rushed home form the bar...my roomate broke up with his girlfriends so luckily I can console him with a little bit of run security behind us..

but I must say, while the defense was awful for the cubs in the second, our defense has been fabulous, casey has been just great tonight at the hot corner

this is just an experience beyond words for me tonight, and even if we close this out, there is still a ton of work to be done...but wow golden god, man ram, raffy this is just the best.

2008-10-02 21:18:55
900.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
893 I thought only LA fans left early
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2008-10-02 21:19:15
901.   Bluebleeder87
888

Kady!

2008-10-02 21:19:46
902.   Tripon
897 Hey, we all wanted to play Philly before this series started! The Cubs had a choice between the Mets and the Brewers, and they allowed the Brewers the wild card.
2008-10-02 21:20:21
903.   Eric Stephen
888
Welcome back! The Dodgers good luck charm!
2008-10-02 21:20:44
904.   Bob Timmermann
You know whose fans don't leave early sometimes?

No one's

2008-10-02 21:20:45
905.   fanerman
Juan Pierre's speed caused that error.
2008-10-02 21:20:54
906.   Eric Stephen
Pretty funny that the fans are booing Pierre.
2008-10-02 21:20:59
907.   Tripon
JP arrives on an error!
2008-10-02 21:21:01
908.   Ember Nickel
900 Anybody can leave early, takes a special breed to /come/ early. LA's most infamous for it but I'm sure that sort are widespread as well, I really don't want to generalize.

Also, ouch.

2008-10-02 21:21:02
909.   Bob Timmermann
Record-tying error!
2008-10-02 21:21:08
910.   Icaros
The field-level seats are 50% empty and we're hearing about how the Cubs fans always stay.
2008-10-02 21:21:09
911.   MollyKnight
Who wants to go to Philly with me next week?
2008-10-02 21:21:11
912.   Alex41592
Saito will pitch the ninth. Good idea to give him work.
2008-10-02 21:21:15
913.   Bluebleeder87
888

some of the fellas were asking for you... you missed a great GREAT pick-nick this year.

2008-10-02 21:21:22
914.   underdog
888 Oh NOW you come back. j/k ;-) Welcome back.
2008-10-02 21:21:32
915.   thinkblue88
Wow, thank you Cubs.
2008-10-02 21:21:42
916.   Icaros
911

Um...you're going to get a lot of "I do"s.

2008-10-02 21:21:57
917.   fanerman
904 Not even Cardinals' fans?
2008-10-02 21:22:06
918.   MrCourt123
I'd like to see Saito get an inning of work. He'll have a chance to rest tomorrow if Torre is nervous about throwing him 2 nights in a row.
2008-10-02 21:22:22
919.   Eric Stephen
Please ask Mark DeRosa after the game how he thinks the Cubs will do in Game 3. Please.
2008-10-02 21:22:40
920.   Sam PHL
911. I'll be there for game 1 and game 6 (assuming Dodgers make it).
2008-10-02 21:22:53
921.   nofatmike
I'm really getting sick of hearing that "the Cubs aren't playing well." How about us guys?
2008-10-02 21:23:18
922.   DaDoughboy
Ten is good right?
2008-10-02 21:23:19
923.   Tripon
That's run number 10.
2008-10-02 21:23:24
924.   MollyKnight
916-Phillie fans don't know what to do with females in the opposing team's garb. They won't call me a derogatory word for a homosexual, but they will question my virtue.
2008-10-02 21:23:24
925.   Bob Timmermann
917
From personal experience, I have seen many Cardinals fans leave games early. Remember that a lot of Cardinals fans drove a long way to get to the game. If it's out of hand, they're going to want to start heading back.
2008-10-02 21:23:25
926.   thinkblue88
Ten to one.
2008-10-02 21:23:30
927.   nick
the Dodger bats will punish all errors!
2008-10-02 21:23:31
928.   Disabled List
911 I'll go, if you're buying the cheesesteaks.
2008-10-02 21:23:36
929.   MrCourt123
It's good to see JP coming off the bench to score a run. Keep pouring it on boys!!
2008-10-02 21:23:38
930.   LogikReader
888

I don't think I've met you before. I'm LogikReader! Nice to meet you kady.

2008-10-02 21:23:58
931.   Bluebleeder87
917

Bob was saying the other day that even Cardinal fans do it also... or maybe I understood wrong.

2008-10-02 21:24:06
932.   Eric Stephen
First double-digit scoring Dodger playoff game since Game 1 of the 1978 WS.
2008-10-02 21:24:11
933.   Tripon
Berroa gets a base hit!
2008-10-02 21:24:29
934.   fanerman
I feel like Tony is giving the Dodgers some respect.
2008-10-02 21:24:38
935.   Alex41592
10 to 1

10 to 1!!!

2008-10-02 21:24:38
936.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
Cubs infield just completed the fielding cycle
2008-10-02 21:24:40
937.   kachang
911 um ... I don't know about going with you... but I'll probably be there if the Dodgers can get there. My wife works for mlb and i think i have a good shot at tickets! and Philly is not a far train ride from nyc...
2008-10-02 21:24:46
938.   Icaros
924

All you can do is take it as a compliment.

2008-10-02 21:25:27
939.   underdog
I had faith in the Dodgers this series, but wasn't quite expecting this onslaught. Wow. Take no prisoners!
2008-10-02 21:25:31
940.   Eric Stephen
924
They won't call me a derogatory word for a homosexual, but they will question my virtue

That's the nicest possible way to put that. :)

2008-10-02 21:25:45
941.   Icaros
Will MLB be selling glass vials of Cubs fans tears?
2008-10-02 21:25:47
942.   Disabled List
I will again put out the call for NYC-area DTers to meet up for the game on Saturday. Speak up if interested...
2008-10-02 21:25:52
943.   kadycee
901 hola!

903 Now if they lose the next game I'll blame myself.

Isn't it fun watching other fans agonize for once? It's kind of like bizarro world.

2008-10-02 21:25:52
944.   larry slimfast
Still no mention of the Dodgers on the espn.com/mlb page
2008-10-02 21:25:57
945.   MrCourt123
I was nervous about 2 things coming into the playoffs. 1, that the young guys wouldn't hit. Well, I'm not nervous about that anymore. And 2, that our weak schedule the last month of the season wasn't really preparing us for the caliber we'd see in round one. Well, no ned to worry about that either!
2008-10-02 21:26:10
946.   Sam PHL
924. That's why I'll be going in stealth fan mode.
2008-10-02 21:26:17
947.   DaDoughboy
now, if Frank Caliendo can do Obama I may actually be impressed with something he does..
2008-10-02 21:26:35
948.   Eric Stephen
939
No commercials, no justice!!!
2008-10-02 21:26:56
949.   dodgerinlv
The Dodgers have scored against every pitcher in two games although Cotts wasn't charged with a run. Impressive
2008-10-02 21:27:02
950.   El Lay Dave
Every Dodger non-pitcher has reached base* except DeWitt, and he has a R and RBI on an FC.

*JP on an error only.

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2008-10-02 21:27:06
951.   Disabled List
I gotta say, Frank Caliendo's Barack Obama impression is really good.
2008-10-02 21:27:15
952.   Tripon
Jay Jaffe (9:10:23 PM PT): Oh, hey, Kevin's back. I'll hang for a bit longer. Kev, what's your take on DeWitt from upthread?

Kevin Goldstein (9:12:33 PM PT): I think you nailed it Jay -- he's kind of a tweener, but scouts have always put some pretty big hit scores on him -- the kind of numbers that didn't necessarily jive with the production even, so the evaluators certainly see upside in him offensively.

2008-10-02 21:27:19
953.   fanerman
925 That comment was more civilized than I was hoping.
2008-10-02 21:27:44
954.   MollyKnight
920-OK. I want to try and huddle with other DTers in Philly. That would be really fun. Maybe we can meet up at that Chicken Pete's (I know that's wrong--but you know what I mean) bar across the street beforehand?

The Hard Rock Cafe near Chinatown is also a safe haven because it's infested with tourists who are unaware of post-season baseball. The floor manager there WILL be in a Phillies jersey, though.

2008-10-02 21:27:46
955.   Eric Stephen
Even on the 100th viewing, I do like the DHL commercial with the boss & subordinate separately golfing.
2008-10-02 21:27:49
956.   kadycee
930 likewise!
2008-10-02 21:27:51
957.   dodgerinlv
947 Frank does a great John Madden.
2008-10-02 21:27:51
958.   Snake in Philly
Our offense against GOOD pitching has been beyond my wildest expectations.
2008-10-02 21:27:52
959.   Bluebleeder87
925 931

evidently my mind couldn't process the info correctly. :o)

we've been told other wise for so long etc...

2008-10-02 21:28:01
960.   Icaros
I try to go to games in SF in stealth mode, but underdog exposes me by arguing with the local curs.
2008-10-02 21:28:17
961.   Tripon
Jay Jaffe (9:20:31 PM PT): I feel like we missed on Cory Wade this year. He was a lineout in BP08 at the back fo the chapter, and while we allowed for the possibility that he might see Dodger Stadium this year, his 2007 numbers and obviously this performance this year certainly merited full entry status.

I beat myself up about that one a little.

2008-10-02 21:28:43
962.   kadycee
913 DARN!
2008-10-02 21:28:58
963.   superbas
odds that tbs will interview a cub first instead of a dodger when the game ends?
2008-10-02 21:29:38
964.   slatkin
Damned plants.
2008-10-02 21:29:39
965.   Snake in Philly
I'll definitely be there. No diamond club seats from work with a Dodgers hat and a Kemp jersey, but I'll find some somewhere.
2008-10-02 21:30:09
966.   Tripon
JP knows the score!
2008-10-02 21:30:11
967.   Bob Timmermann
Pierre uses his course knowledge of the Wrigley outfield there.
2008-10-02 21:30:12
968.   kachang
942 I think the Dodgers inspired play deserves to be celebrated! I'm in.

If I can get a pass from my pregnant wife (who'll probably be sleeping anyways), I'd be up for it. Sat night in NYC!

2008-10-02 21:30:28
969.   Eric Stephen
963
0%
2008-10-02 21:30:54
970.   fanerman
Sammy!
2008-10-02 21:30:59
971.   Alex41592
McDonald and Park warming up.
2008-10-02 21:31:10
972.   Eric Stephen
967
JP was pretty quick putting his hands up there.
2008-10-02 21:31:18
973.   MrCourt123
D Lee clearly didn't read the scouting report on JP's arm.
2008-10-02 21:31:37
974.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Lost in the vineage*.
*-Not a word, but I like it anyway.
Kemp thought about diving for it, but you could see at the last second he realized, "Nahh, we're up by nine."
2008-10-02 21:31:52
975.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
963 I was hoping they'd get an interview with Watermelon Head Man aka Brad Penny
2008-10-02 21:32:57
976.   nick
Saito looks to have nothing....
2008-10-02 21:32:58
977.   Eric Stephen
Yeah, so that was far. It's 10-1.
2008-10-02 21:32:59
978.   Alex41592
Broxton is now warming up.
2008-10-02 21:33:00
979.   Rob M
Sammy's throwing BP.
2008-10-02 21:33:04
980.   nofatmike
Man, Saito isn't fooling anyone.
2008-10-02 21:33:10
981.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
Yeah guys get worked up over this when you barely mentioned Blake being safe at 2nd.
2008-10-02 21:33:15
982.   MrCourt123
Let's hope Saito's working out those kinks. Or hey, maybe we won't need him in any pressure situations if we keep hitting like this.
2008-10-02 21:33:17
983.   Tripon
Looks like it caught the foul line.
2008-10-02 21:33:37
984.   Eric Stephen
Why is Broxton warming up? Sweet Jesus!!!
2008-10-02 21:33:44
985.   Rob M
Broxton? Jeez, I think we can hold a 9 run lead without using both closers.
2008-10-02 21:33:47
986.   Humma Kavula
Broxton?

Broxton?

Broxton?

2008-10-02 21:33:51
987.   Alex41592
If you're going to have nothing, have it in a game where you're up by 9.
2008-10-02 21:33:55
988.   The Dude Abides
Hah! Get them back for the out call on Casey at second base!
2008-10-02 21:33:56
989.   Frip
For the Cubs, for some reason 10-1 sounds worse than 10-0.

Being shut out has something of a fluke about it. Scoring at least 1 run makes the slaughter seem more realistic.

2008-10-02 21:34:00
990.   Sam PHL
954. It's Chickie and Pete's, but it would be cool to know a Chicken Pete. The plan sounds good to me. Some place around the convention center (i.e., near Hard Rock) might make the most sense since it will be the least Phillies partisan.

However, let's not tempt fate by making plans yet.

2008-10-02 21:34:05
991.   capdodger
That caught the line.

I guess these things do even out in time.

2008-10-02 21:34:11
992.   Icaros
Well, this would be a legendary collapse.
2008-10-02 21:34:20
993.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
986 - Off day tomorrow.
2008-10-02 21:34:41
994.   kadycee
914 I just didn't have anything to say until Ethier was in the starting line up everyday...an 9-run lead ought to make it safe for JP to play, I suppose.
2008-10-02 21:34:46
995.   waterboy100
booooooooooooooooooooooooo cubs
2008-10-02 21:34:49
996.   whodat807
I don't think the Cubs will pull off a miracle, obviously, but Saito's form is really making me nervous.
2008-10-02 21:35:00
997.   DaDoughboy
Well, here comes Ox..
2008-10-02 21:35:01
998.   Bluebleeder87
Saito pitches better in pressure situations.
2008-10-02 21:35:05
999.   capdodger
Meh... didn't end up mattering.
2008-10-02 21:35:05
1000.   The Dude Abides
Sammy has no zip on his fastball and no bite on his slider. Not sure what's wrong with him.
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2008-10-02 21:35:15
1001.   Tripon
10-3 Cubs. Pull the plug, and bring in Broxton.
2008-10-02 21:35:18
1002.   fanerman
Egads Sammy =(
2008-10-02 21:35:21
1003.   MrCourt123
Dang, so close. I'd like to see Kemp lay out for one of these.
2008-10-02 21:35:23
1004.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Bad route by Kemp.
2008-10-02 21:35:32
1005.   KG16
this game isn't over yet? what they hey?
2008-10-02 21:35:33
1006.   MonkeyBlue
Dang it Saito.
2008-10-02 21:35:37
1007.   waterboy100
so brox is coming in.
2008-10-02 21:35:37
1008.   Disabled List
968 Ok, I'll post something in the thread tomorrow. Probably in the East Village somewhere.
2008-10-02 21:35:40
1009.   Humma Kavula
Is Saito still hurt?
2008-10-02 21:35:44
1010.   RELX
Sammy really hasn't looked good since he came back. I fear that he is either very rusty, or else is still hurt, maybe both. To be honest, I think they should leave Broxton as the closer, made Wade the 8th inning guy, and use Sammy as a middle reliever, at least until he starts pitching better.
2008-10-02 21:35:50
1011.   Eric Stephen
Wow, this is something that either rhymes with "cupid" or "departed".
2008-10-02 21:36:09
1012.   Tripon
1000 Saito warmed up yesterday, a couple times I believe. He's still not healthy enough to pitch back to back nights I think.
2008-10-02 21:36:10
1013.   I Love LA
Ok Saito do not have my trust...we need to learn how to finish off games without having to work hard for it.
2008-10-02 21:36:13
1014.   Icaros
That is the worst I've ever seen Saito pitch. He had nothing.
2008-10-02 21:36:21
1015.   Sam PHL
965. Snake, my non-Dodger fan co-ticket owner might be selling his ticket to game 1 in section 204. I'm not sure if he will or what he would want though...
2008-10-02 21:36:32
1016.   MrCourt123
I may have missed this somewhere along the line, but where does "Sammy" come from?
2008-10-02 21:36:37
1017.   Humma Kavula
Is McDonald only going to see action in losses?
2008-10-02 21:36:47
1018.   LoneStar7
she we be worried here, this is our supposed closer...i love sammy to death but that was just atrocious
2008-10-02 21:36:49
1019.   Disabled List
Saito was pretty worthless there. A cloud in our silver lining tonight.
2008-10-02 21:36:49
1020.   larry slimfast
Perhaps Saito is treating this like a rehab appearance? I guess I really want to make excuses for him. He's so likable.
2008-10-02 21:36:53
1021.   MollyKnight
990-Oh, I'm not worried about tempting fates. I'll be at Chickie & Pete's next Thursday whether the Dodgers are in it or not.
2008-10-02 21:37:09
1022.   LoneStar7
1018 should
2008-10-02 21:37:16
1023.   Reddog
From what I see, next year we should keep Broxton as our set-up man, and make Corey Wade our closer.
2008-10-02 21:37:23
1024.   underdog
Uh, that didn't work at all, Sammy. Good thing we had a 9 run lead. Ah well.

I'd rather not suddenly feel nervous about this game, I wasn't mentally prepared. I have to make arrangements.

2008-10-02 21:37:55
1025.   thinkblue88
1016.
I think Penny have him that name.
2008-10-02 21:38:28
1026.   Tripon
Felix Pie in this game.
2008-10-02 21:38:32
1027.   fanerman
Lefthander Dick.
2008-10-02 21:38:41
1028.   slatkin
Stockton just called Kershaw a right-hander.
2008-10-02 21:38:45
1029.   Alex41592
Saves are rather meaningless in playoff games. Wins are the only stat that count.
2008-10-02 21:39:06
1030.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
Dude throw a strike
2008-10-02 21:39:08
1031.   kadycee
1016 Ethier gave him that nickname. I know not why.
2008-10-02 21:39:09
1032.   underdog
We've still got Beimel to use, too.
2008-10-02 21:39:13
1033.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
1011 - "I use a word that don't mean nothin', like 'lupid.'"
2008-10-02 21:39:18
1034.   Tripon
Oh come on! Broxton, Felix Pie is not a guy you have to be this careful to.
2008-10-02 21:39:22
1035.   KG16
911 - I'll follow you anywhere
2008-10-02 21:39:26
1036.   Sam PHL
1021. If the Dodgers aren't in it, won't game 1 be in Chicago?
2008-10-02 21:39:28
1037.   therickdaddy
I love how the announcers keep trying to point out what a great end to the game this is for them and how they got hits off Saito, etc. Of course, the Dodgers scored off both Marmol and Wood without mention at all.

Everyone wants the Cubbies to win so bad.

2008-10-02 21:39:43
1038.   I Love LA
Now Broxton is struggling
2008-10-02 21:39:50
1039.   alexx
Cubs fans are no longer leaving the park according to the Wrigley cam.
2008-10-02 21:39:51
1040.   kachang
Disabled List - looking forward to a nyc DT gathering. Are there others out there??
2008-10-02 21:39:54
1041.   Bluebleeder87
attack the plate Brox.
2008-10-02 21:40:22
1042.   fanerman
Come on guys.
2008-10-02 21:40:34
1043.   Tripon
I gotta believe that Torre told Broxton to walk Pie to set up the DP.
2008-10-02 21:40:43
1044.   MonkeyBlue
Ugh.
2008-10-02 21:40:49
1045.   kadycee
Broxton makes me edgy.
2008-10-02 21:40:51
1046.   KG16
6-4-3 would be real nice. Real nice.
2008-10-02 21:40:56
1047.   underdog
It's a good thing no Cubs fans left this game early.
2008-10-02 21:41:06
1048.   Rob M
And Kershaw up? I'd think Beimel would be next if anyone at all.
2008-10-02 21:41:14
1049.   Tripon
Broxton doesn't have it either.
2008-10-02 21:41:17
1050.   Humma Kavula
Stoic game face. Stoic game face. Stoic game face.
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2008-10-02 21:41:40
1051.   KG16
1039 - is that because they're all gone?
2008-10-02 21:41:46
1052.   capdodger
TO: J. Broxton
FRM: CAPDODGER
RE: 9th INNING

MSG: YOU HAVE A SEVEN-RUN LEAD STOP THROW STRIKES STOP THANK YOU FULL STOP

2008-10-02 21:41:57
1053.   MrCourt123
DP

DP

DP

DP...

2008-10-02 21:42:01
1054.   waterboy100
what is going on here?????????
2008-10-02 21:42:05
1055.   I Love LA
Broxton this is seriously getting annoying.
2008-10-02 21:42:24
1056.   Eric Stephen
It's ridiculous to get worked up over a 10-3 lead in the 9th, but Torre has managed to do it to me.

There are roughly 0 good reasons to bring Broxton into this game.

2008-10-02 21:42:26
1057.   Humma Kavula
Nice play Berroa.
2008-10-02 21:42:26
1058.   Tripon
Berroa saves our butts!
2008-10-02 21:42:30
1059.   KG16
wow, nice grab for Berrora
2008-10-02 21:42:31
1060.   kadycee
I thought Torre was going to use Maddux again tonight. I heard that.
2008-10-02 21:42:36
1061.   MrCourt123
wow, nice snag. would dewitt have had that one?
2008-10-02 21:42:36
1062.   I Love LA
Broxton got lucky there...Angel saved him.
2008-10-02 21:42:37
1063.   Sub4Era
Thank you Berroa
2008-10-02 21:42:42
1064.   waterboy100
whew...thanks berroa (sp?)...
2008-10-02 21:42:46
1065.   underdog
Attaboy Snipes!
2008-10-02 21:42:56
1066.   Gagne55
1027 Rule 1?
2008-10-02 21:42:59
1067.   RELX
If we get further into the playoffs, or maybe even in this series, at some point, our bullpen is going to cost us big time. The loss of Kuo was huge, I think Saito is still hurt, and Broxton just doesn't inspire confidence.
2008-10-02 21:43:05
1068.   Bluebleeder87
man, the cubbie hitter scorched that one.
2008-10-02 21:43:06
1069.   Tripon
Yeah, show some more sad Cubs fans!
2008-10-02 21:43:08
1070.   JRSarno
Get ready for another unconfident but likely successful outing by Broxton.
2008-10-02 21:43:11
1071.   Alex41592
Broxton needed that. Nice job Berroa.
2008-10-02 21:43:34
1072.   Gen3Blue
Is Wade available? He can throw strikes. And he could give up six solo homers and still win! Or maybe Biemel, or even Kershaw. I'd actually rather see.....

Where did they get these Chicago announcers?

2008-10-02 21:43:45
1073.   DaDoughboy
foget the curveball Ricky...give 'im the heater..
2008-10-02 21:43:55
1074.   Tripon
Berroa true calling is at 2nd base. Maybe.
2008-10-02 21:43:56
1075.   KG16
Darryl Ward is still in baseball? Really?
2008-10-02 21:43:57
1076.   Bluebleeder87
Fukudome is one you should just attack with straight heat.
2008-10-02 21:43:58
1077.   Humma Kavula
Relax, everybody, including me. It's a seven run lead. It's gonna be fine.
2008-10-02 21:44:05
1078.   Reddog
From what I see, next year we should keep Broxton as our set-up man, and make Corey Wade our closer.
2008-10-02 21:44:19
1079.   Lee Corbett
Maddux
2008-10-02 21:44:25
1080.   thinkblue88
1072.
Wade pitched 2 innings tonight.
2008-10-02 21:44:41
1081.   Eric Stephen
1067
Broxton will inspire less confidence if he is tired from overuse from being brought into a 10-3 game.
2008-10-02 21:44:46
1082.   MrCourt123
1067
Eh, I'm going to stay optimistic. Our bullpen is just fine. Broxton is okay, Wade is nasty, we've got plenty of arms. Plenty of very good arms. I think the bullpen is one area we don't need to worry about. It doesn't look like we have much to worry about through the first 2 games though.
2008-10-02 21:44:58
1083.   fanerman
Perfect.
2008-10-02 21:45:05
1084.   DaDoughboy
1076.
Exactly.
2008-10-02 21:45:07
1085.   Eric Stephen
1080
Only 1.1 IP for Wade.
2008-10-02 21:45:09
1086.   Humma Kavula
That's the way you do it.
2008-10-02 21:45:10
1087.   Tripon
Fukudome strikes outs! I don't even think he swung his bat once.
2008-10-02 21:45:21
1088.   RELX
1077 . I am not worried about this game, but I do think we have problems in the bullpen that are going to come back and bite us.
2008-10-02 21:45:26
1089.   Rob M
I'm grateful for the holes in this Cubbie lineup.
2008-10-02 21:45:30
1090.   KG16
Nice pitch Brox
2008-10-02 21:45:33
1091.   underdog
Siddown Fukudome!
2008-10-02 21:45:33
1092.   kadycee
Cubs fans are seriously tormented people.
2008-10-02 21:45:38
1093.   Bluebleeder87
Daryl Ward hit one out of the Pirate stadium once.
2008-10-02 21:46:04
1094.   Alex41592
Remember what Roger Dorn said to Rick Vaughn in the final scene of Major League?

Broxton do that!

2008-10-02 21:46:20
1095.   Disabled List
I still can't believe Daryle Ward has a job in major league baseball.
2008-10-02 21:46:21
1096.   KG16
1008 - not if we keep scoring 8 runs a game.
2008-10-02 21:46:47
1097.   The Dude Abides
That first pitch to Ward was an obvious strike.
2008-10-02 21:46:47
1098.   Bob Timmermann
The biggest deficit overcome in a postseason game is 8 by the 1929 A's against the Cubs.

ATHLETICS 7TH: Simmons homered; Foxx singled to right; Miller
singled to center [Foxx to second]; Dykes singled to left [Foxx
scored, Miller to second]; Boley singled to right [Miller
scored, Dykes to third]; BURNS BATTED FOR ROMMEL; Burns popped
to shortstop; Bishop singled to center [Dykes scored, Boley to
third]; NEHF REPLACED ROOT (PITCHING); Haas hit an inside the
park homer to center [Boley scored, Bishop scored]; Cochrane
walked; BLAKE REPLACED NEHF (PITCHING); Simmons singled to left
[Cochrane to second]; Foxx singled [Cochrane scored, Simmons to
second]; MALONE REPLACED BLAKE (PITCHING); Miller was hit by a
pitch [Simmons to third, Foxx to second]; Dykes doubled to left
[Simmons scored, Foxx scored, Miller to third]; Boley struck
out; Burns struck out; 10 R, 10 H, 0 E, 2 LOB. Cubs 8,
Athletics 10.

2008-10-02 21:47:07
1099.   Rob M
I think Torre is going to get everyone warm at least once. Has Chan Ho gotten up yet?
2008-10-02 21:47:18
1100.   MonkeyBlue
Come on its Ward for goodness, Broxton.
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2008-10-02 21:47:20
1101.   Humma Kavula
Get it done.
2008-10-02 21:47:20
1102.   KG16
1093 - the new one or 3 River Stadium?
2008-10-02 21:47:33
1103.   thinkblue88
1085.
Oops, that's right.
2008-10-02 21:47:42
1104.   Sub4Era
So why carry Kershaw, Maddux, Park etc on the roster if we are just going to use our top 3 no matter what the score? I don't understand why we are letting the Cubs look at our best arms in a situation that doesn't call for it. Not only does it overuse them but the fewer looks opposing hitters get the better right?
2008-10-02 21:47:42
1105.   Frip
We've gone over a thousand posts, I think we need to slow down a bit.
2008-10-02 21:48:01
1106.   LoneStar7
im not worried about the bullpen on the whole, or about broxton or wade specifically..

Its just hard to see your closer get shelled like that

2008-10-02 21:48:02
1107.   Eric Stephen
1099
Yep. Park was up with McD earlier in the inning.
2008-10-02 21:48:02
1108.   Jacob Burch
And everyone has pitchers that don't make things easy or are flat out rusty or bad. We are not alone. Brad Lidge yesterday should be an example of this. Calmness, my people. Go read Jon's Broxton posts and be happy again when Broxton Ks old friend Daryl Ward.
2008-10-02 21:48:27
1109.   Tripon
Broxton needs to work on his off speed stuff. That and location.
2008-10-02 21:48:40
1110.   Tripon
Broxton needs to work on his off speed stuff. That and location.
2008-10-02 21:48:40
1111.   DaDoughboy
[que Randy Newman]
2008-10-02 21:48:50
1112.   Gagne55
:)
2008-10-02 21:48:50
1113.   Bluebleeder87
there we go!
2008-10-02 21:48:50
1114.   thinkblue88
yaaahoooooooooo!!
2008-10-02 21:48:54
1115.   I Love LA
Thank God...was that really a strike though? I'll take it.
2008-10-02 21:48:54
1116.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
That call is why the Cubs are the Cubs.
2008-10-02 21:49:01
1117.   Rob M
Bailed out by the ump! He owed us.
2008-10-02 21:49:08
1118.   underdog
Ward can't believe it! And I just say... Siddown.
2008-10-02 21:49:11
1119.   KG16
STTTTTTTTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIKE 3
2008-10-02 21:49:12
1120.   Eric Stephen
2-0.

Nice call JB 1108

2008-10-02 21:49:13
1121.   Reddog
Oops, sorry I double posted that.

It's funny, if someone told you the final scores of the first two games were 7-2 and 10-3, with one team winning both, most of us would have assumed it would've been the Cubs with a 2-0 lead.

2008-10-02 21:49:17
1122.   waterboy100
go dodgers go. ill be at dodger stadium with 56000 of my closest friends on saturday to see the dodgers close out the cubs....
2008-10-02 21:49:23
1123.   Humma Kavula
Magic Number is 9. Sort of.

OK, not the Magic Number. 9 wins to go!

2008-10-02 21:49:28
1124.   Tripon
Broxton strikes out two, and didn't give up a run. We really should stop freaking out. But we'll do it anyway.
2008-10-02 21:49:29
1125.   Humma Kavula
Magic Number is 9. Sort of.

OK, not the Magic Number. 9 wins to go!

2008-10-02 21:49:43
1126.   El Lay Dave
1102 Forbes Field.
2008-10-02 21:49:58
1127.   Marty
What a horrible ump. Calls two balls that were strikes then rings up the batter on an obvious ball.
2008-10-02 21:50:06
1128.   nick
Broxton's veteran savvy earns him that called strike!
2008-10-02 21:50:06
1129.   waterboy100
1122 and my sister
2008-10-02 21:50:06
1130.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
Wow. Verrrrrry happy! Have a great night, everyone!
2008-10-02 21:50:07
1131.   MrCourt123
Love it. 2-0 lead. This is huge.
2008-10-02 21:50:13
1132.   capdodger
1116
Meh. The ump called a strike a ball earlier in that AB.

Plus, it's Ward. He's never going to get that call.

2008-10-02 21:50:22
1133.   Alex41592
That pitch was low. Oh too bad.

We only won by seven!

Oh noes!!!

2-0 lead coming back to Los Angeles!

2008-10-02 21:50:33
1134.   Eric Stephen
After extensive research:

Dodgers All-Time Playoffs at Wrigley Field
2-0

2008-10-02 21:51:01
1135.   MonkeyBlue
Interviewing Mr. Cliche!
2008-10-02 21:51:01
1136.   underdog
I actually thought Broxton looked fine for the most part. He certainly had major giddyup on his pitches. Saito, however, looked awful. But we're up 2-0 against all odds so I wouldn't complain about very much right now.

Chad's speaking --- shhhhhh!

2008-10-02 21:51:02
1137.   fanerman
Chad is such a great interviewee.
2008-10-02 21:51:06
1138.   Icaros
Chad seems sedated.
2008-10-02 21:51:10
1139.   Tripon
Ward checked swing that. He only has to blame himself for that. Also, the Cubs have somebody who looks like Milton Bradley with glasses.

Also, Chad Billingsley looks so young. Pedro Gomez is looking for Barry Bonds at Wrigley field.

2008-10-02 21:51:11
1140.   Disabled List
It now ten to one here on the east coast, and I have to work tomorrow morning. And I don't feel like going to sleep at all.

Raise your hand if you thought we'd be coming home up 2-0? Anyone?

2008-10-02 21:51:13
1141.   Bluebleeder87
Chad has that "I new I was gonna do that" look.

I LOVE IT!

2008-10-02 21:51:15
1142.   mpm31
What a night- great watching it with everyone here! It's totally worth the short night's sleep here I'll have tonight (darn Eastern Time!).

9 to go!

2008-10-02 21:51:22
1143.   Lee Corbett
1108 agreed
2008-10-02 21:51:26
1144.   Eric Stephen
This is a rare Chad interview. Get used to it, America!
2008-10-02 21:51:30
1145.   Jacob Burch
We JBs have to keep each others back. I get more nervous when Brox does what a lot of pitchers too--I have no idea why--but my brain knows it's all good.

Someone needs to quote Mark DeRosa's quote.

2008-10-02 21:51:41
1146.   Dexter Fishmore
I CAN HAZ SWEEP?
2008-10-02 21:51:42
1147.   The Dude Abides
Ha ha...Chad talks like a surfer.
2008-10-02 21:51:50
1148.   MollyKnight
I think this is the first time I've ever seen Chad Billingsley speak on television.

How is this possible?

2008-10-02 21:51:55
1149.   KG16
Chad sounded a bit like he imbibed the yoda.
2008-10-02 21:52:19
1150.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
Stay tuned to TBS for the Cubs post-game show
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2008-10-02 21:52:23
1151.   El Lay Dave
1124 Not even an inherited one.
2008-10-02 21:52:45
1152.   Disabled List
In that hoodie, Billingsley looks like Tom Verducci's 14-year-old son.
2008-10-02 21:53:30
1153.   LoneStar7
Well Before yesterday I had only seen us win one playoff game and now we've won two games in a row...I will appreciate this no matter what and never take any of this for granted but now we still have work to do, it would be devastating if we slacked now

I hope sammy just had a lapse in concentration, or else i just pray the bats stay on fire anyway 2-0!

2008-10-02 21:53:32
1154.   kadycee
Billingsly rides a unicorn to the ballpark.
2008-10-02 21:53:39
1155.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
1139 LOL was wondering why he looked so lost
2008-10-02 21:53:50
1156.   KG16
1140 - i thought it was possible. i wasn't expecting it, though, until the fifth inning tonight.

1148 - because you're normally in the club house?

2008-10-02 21:54:06
1157.   Humma Kavula
I'm greedy. I want to see the sweep on Saturday.

What can I say -- I just have no feeling for my fellow man who happen to have tickets to Sunday's game.

2008-10-02 21:54:36
1158.   Eric Stephen
ESPN: "Second Loss City" with a pic of Zambrano wiping his brow

Yahoo: "Hex of a Game" with Manny in the Ivy

Give it up for Sportsline: "Blues Cruise" with a pic of Manny out of the box after the HR

2008-10-02 21:54:57
1159.   KG16
1157 - they'll get their money back, it's ok.
2008-10-02 21:55:13
1160.   superbas
chad=teh awesome. i hope the good kuroda shows up on saturday.
2008-10-02 21:55:26
1161.   DaDoughboy
Gawd Tom V. Don't looked too depressed when interviewing the winning pitcher..
2008-10-02 21:55:42
1162.   The Dude Abides
1148
Because you're too busy interacting with those sweet, sensitive Philly fans?
2008-10-02 21:55:57
1163.   underdog
Chad: "Whoa. Yeah, that was cool. And stuff. And Russell was all, like, not at all bogus behind the plate. And it was all good, hombre."

Loney was pretty sleepy last night too -- what a bunch of mellow dudes.

2008-10-02 21:56:51
1164.   Eric Stephen
1161
C'mon dude. Verducci was fine there.
2008-10-02 21:56:59
1165.   Jacob Burch
Someone stopwatch Curse talk vs. Dodgers played really well talk.
2008-10-02 21:57:14
1166.   Tripon
Every team has multiple errors in an error. The Cubs just had it in a playoff game.
2008-10-02 21:57:23
1167.   El Lay Dave
1148 women with questionable virtues don't hang around for post-game shows.
2008-10-02 21:57:33
1168.   LogikReader
1158

FOX Sports says "Total Command" with Raffy on the Front Page! woo hoo!

2008-10-02 21:57:47
1169.   trainwreck
Ok, we need to win Saturday. I have been through this before with the A's. Just end it!!!
2008-10-02 21:59:02
1170.   El Lay Dave
1158 Give it up for Sportsline: "Blues Cruise" with a pic of Manny out of the box after the HR

Uh, no, pic should be of Chad, or maybe Russ Martin's double.

2008-10-02 21:59:02
1171.   Eric Stephen
1169
Thom Brennamen won't be involved over the weekend so we should be fine. :)
2008-10-02 21:59:08
1172.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
Ok, gotta change this, it's worse than I thought.
2008-10-02 21:59:33
1173.   KG16
Baseball Tonight compares the Florida/Bartman inning to the Second inning tonight.
2008-10-02 22:00:15
1174.   I Love LA
Now beg the question...are we greedy enough? Are we mentally tough enough to know how to finish off a team? This is the best team in the NL we are talking about....hope the guys stay focus.
2008-10-02 22:00:26
1175.   Alex41592
It's all about the Cubs so far.

Lets see what Sportscenter has to say.

2008-10-02 22:00:52
1176.   Eric Stephen
Wow, this was a long game.
2008-10-02 22:01:00
1177.   Alex41592
"Cursed Cubs" that took 4 seconds.
2008-10-02 22:01:01
1178.   LogikReader
I thought it over, and this moment deserves an Ice Cream!

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This is the first time in my adult life the Dodgers have been on the cusp of clinching a playoff series. Woo hoo!

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Too bad about Saito tonight. I'm glad there's enough depth to get around it, but it's still a bummer. Should I be worried?

2008-10-02 22:01:58
1179.   KG16
1174 - Joe Torre is kind of like Phil Jackson. He knows how to go for the jugular, I'm sure he's got the speech already in the quene.
2008-10-02 22:02:33
1180.   kadycee
Does anyone know how to change your email address on this Site??? It doesn't seem to be an option in my profile.

Oh, it's Lou. He's unhappy.

2008-10-02 22:02:41
1181.   KG16
Wow, Lou dang near blew up on a question about Fukadome playing. Shorter Lou: he's done, I'm playing someone else.
2008-10-02 22:03:00
1182.   LoneStar7
ernie just said hideki kuroda, ive heard that before though lol..
2008-10-02 22:03:31
1183.   Tripon
Kuroda vs. Harden game III

Lets do this. I predict its going to be a low scoring game. 4-1 Dodgers.

2008-10-02 22:03:31
1184.   kadycee
1178 have one for me, too. I have none. I'll be having spiritual ice cream.
2008-10-02 22:04:19
1185.   I Love LA
1179 - Very true bro...but if you bring the Lakers and Dodgers...remember Phil and Kobe had the Suns up 3-1 before losing 4-3 in Kobe's first year in the playoffs sans Shaq. I hope Torre doesn't follow Phil's footsteps in that regards.
2008-10-02 22:04:26
1186.   Tripon
Lou just says that Fukudome's out of starting.
2008-10-02 22:04:31
1187.   kadycee
I hope the good Kuroda shows up.
2008-10-02 22:04:35
1188.   Rob M
Fukudome is OUT.
2008-10-02 22:05:14
1189.   KG16
1185 - I have no idea what you are talking about. Nor do I recall how the play offs ended last year.

None at all.

2008-10-02 22:05:25
1190.   superbas
manny knows chad's name post game on espnnews!
2008-10-02 22:05:33
1191.   Eric Stephen
1180
kadycee, try emailing Jon or support2007@baseballtoaster.com
2008-10-02 22:05:35
1192.   TheBigGrabowski
Wow, Lou Pinella just totally ripped Fukudome.
2008-10-02 22:07:17
1193.   Tripon
He should, Fukudome played horribly. But Lou should blame himself, he didn't PH for Fukudome for Reed Johnson or anybody else on his bench and let Fukudome rot in plain view.

I dare say Fukudome's is the Cubs' Andruw Jones.

2008-10-02 22:07:48
1194.   MollyKnight
An exchange that happened in August in the middle of a Cubs winning streak:

Me: What's it like managing against Ozzie Guillen?
Lou Piniella: You know the answer to that better than I do, so why don't you just go and make something up.

2008-10-02 22:08:10
1195.   underdog
Yeah, fun press conference on ESPNNews. :-)
2008-10-02 22:08:11
1196.   I Love LA
1189 - Not talking about last year bro..i said Kobe's first playoffs sans Shaq which was back in 2006. Lakers were up 3 games to 1 on the Suns yet we wound up losing 4-3. I said this because you compared Torre to Phil. Just saying..even Phil blew a 3-1 lead.
2008-10-02 22:08:32
1197.   Eric Stephen
1192
"The kid is struggling, and there's no sense in sending him out there anymore."

Wow

2008-10-02 22:08:39
1198.   Tripon
But after speaking to Penny, trainer Stan Conte said the right-hander is expected to see a doctor and rejoin the team this weekend to rehabilitate his inflamed right shoulder. - via Diamond Lueng.
2008-10-02 22:09:12
1199.   Dark Horse
I'll tell you, listening to Eckersley and this whole host of TBS announcers speaking funereally as if a Cubs victory is some sort of national agenda...

Let's get it done, fellas. Three games without mercy.

2008-10-02 22:09:13
1200.   Eric Stephen
I really love this Paul Silas clip. Awesome.
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2008-10-02 22:10:17
1201.   superbas
recap of chad on espnnews:" i mean...we took advantage of their mistakes...i mean...pound the zone, keep the ball down...i mean...try to get out there and start fast on saturday...i mean..." LOVE IT!
2008-10-02 22:10:28
1202.   kadycee
1191 thanks
2008-10-02 22:12:26
1203.   kadycee
did anyone mention tonight the last time the Dodgers faced Zambrano - at Dodger Stadium? Didn't he destroy some Gatorade containers in the dugout? I recall the boys in blue making him rather angry. But I never heard any commentator mention that encounter. Just that the Cubs took 5 out of 7. Everyone just adores the Cubbies.
2008-10-02 22:13:46
1204.   Tripon
Did the Rays sell out today's game?
2008-10-02 22:13:57
1205.   underdog
You Raider fans are missing the Dolphins-Raiders 74 playoff game on ESPN2!

As for me, this moment calls for a final celebratory piece of pizza, followed by a celebratory maalox, and then an hour of celebratory work.

2008-10-02 22:13:59
1206.   KG16
don't want to step on Jon's toes, but: NPUT
2008-10-02 22:14:06
1207.   LoneStar7
I find it weird that so many people find the cubs charming...i went to two of the four at home and they were some of the most obnoxious fans i came across..
2008-10-02 22:14:22
1208.   Gen3Blue
1187 If the good Kuroda shows up, it is all over--and that is for sure. Even if the good one doesn't show, we have a chance, because with Furcal, I think our offense is second to none. And Furcal should only get better each game.
Oh Baby; go Dodgers.
2008-10-02 22:14:32
1209.   underdog
1201 I mean, the poor guy was obviously nervous, I mean, really nervous. :-)
2008-10-02 22:15:11
1210.   kadycee
1199 YES. Smash all who get in our way. Smash smash smash.
2008-10-02 22:44:28
1211.   Gen3Blue
1199 Amen and the members said Amen!
2008-10-02 22:47:57
1212.   JRSarno
Furcal had a tremendous game. He really got back into game shape exceptionally well at the right time. With DeWitt going 0-4 tonight, does anyone think Torre will thrown in Kent at 2B "for the L.A. crowd" (as if that's what we want/is best for the team)?
2008-10-02 22:48:43
1213.   JRSarno
1212 - thrown = throw
2008-10-02 23:51:07
1214.   popup
If I was in charge, I would expand MLB by two teams, with a National League team in Brooklyn as part of that expansion. Each 16 team league would be split into eight team divisions, No wild card, just a LCS between division winners and the World Series between league champions as it has always been. No DH. Eliminate loud PA systems and no interleague play during the regular season. World Series games played during the day on Saturday and Sunday. Hire broadcasters who are more interested in describing what is happening on the field rather than spouting their opinions about any and everything over the air.

Stan from Tacoma

2008-10-03 00:50:37
1215.   Bill Crain
1215??

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