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The Dodgers have outscored their playoff opponents by an average of 5.67 to 3.17 runs per game, yet a loss tonight puts Los Angeles on the brink of elimination.
A win creates an all-new best-of-three.
I've got no idea what to expect tonight, especially with Derek Lowe going on short rest, but I'm prepared to be on the edge of my seat with every pitch. (No, I'm not talking about beanballs.)
Nearing the top of the roller-coaster again ... and looking down ...
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The thing that I am complaining about though was how vulgar and rude many of the Dodger fans were. It's one thing to heckle fans of the opposing team (especially in a playoff series) but the level of aggression that I witnessed was almost embarrassing.
Additionally, I went to the game with a good friend of mine who wore an Angels cap and while we were leaving the stadium the amount of abuse he endured was disgusting. At one point we were though someone was going to get physical. We weren't even playing the Angels! (And no, they didn't mistake one red cap for another).
I'm hoping these are bandwagon fans and not true Dodger fans. Good fun and ribbing is welcome and expected, but there's a limit that too many people seemed to have crossed yesterday. I've been to many games in the past, and this was by far the worst (even Giants fans didn't seem to take as much abuse as I saw last night)
2 Days (Games Started / ERA): 2 / 4.00
3 Days: 4 / 5.09
4 Days: 153 / 3.69
Say it aint so Joe!!!
Career August ERA: 3.19
Career Sept/Oct ERA: 3.14
Those are his two best months.
Anyway, Lowe will have plenty of backup and we know he's on a short leash, so if he gives us 5 solid innings I'll be happy.
Oooooooohhhhhhh.... Pierre! Ooooooooohhhh!
How's that?
I can definitely say that he's gutty
I'll say.
I sometimes get them confused myself.
ROOCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
As for Pierre starting I think it is ridiculous to sit some who before his last bat was hitting .300 in this series. However, it could be worse, we could be starting Berroa.
What if they are sporting a Wade Boggs jersey?
The rest of Ortiz's career is going to be one injury after another.
Let's hope this angst helps.
Just got a cancellation due to fires - we have two unused loge tix for tonight, want them used, so pay what you can (they cost 80$ each.) We're on our way there, and can hand them over at DS. E-mail tbeatty at lakeshoreentertainment dot com.
hope to see you there!
With him, it is very possible.
http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/2005/04/k-k-k-k-k-k-k-kelvim-angels-1-as-0.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview?gameId=281013119
So far as I know, the answer is "no".
I'm predicting at least 1 base taken on Pierre today. Whether it is a first to third on a single of tagging up on a medium fly ball, I have a feeling something will happen tonight.
Based on three Lowe pitches, I'd say start warming Kershaw and Maddux. I might be jumping the gun.
yesterday was the most energetic rush I've had in a Dodger game since I could remember, I got there a little late cause of traffic (on Cesar Chavez ave, took me like an hour to go from one block to another) but yeah man, as soon as I got there I had that rush of energy (i saw BH & Sporky! & told BH about how great it felt being there) it was just awesome man....
so far it doesn't compute.
He sometimes struggles in the first inning though. But he's gonna be on a short hook tonight, so he won't have much time to right himself.
Blanton's pitching for pete's sake.
That sure looked like strike 3 to me.
... but if IT does start falling, I, for one, welcome our new Phillie overlords.
With that said, the defensive difference more than makes up for it.
go go fookie!!!
(A) Fiery.
(B) Shows passion.
(C) I wish he'd show more composure
(D) Juan Pierre??!?!?!?
Do you live there?
Once again the Dodgers JUST miss it leaving the park...
Now Lowe needs to settle down.
Let's get Kershaw up.
They showed him running hard and he had no chance to make it and they even said that.
We still need a third baseman or second baseman. It was only DeWitt vs. LaRoche because people are stupid.
Now... no RBI hits to the flippin' pitcher here, please!
Fantastic pitch at 3-1.
And this umpire is really helping Joe out.
That wasn't Pierre's best jump ever.
I blame Gary Bennett.
And now Lowe gets on with a bloop!
Sigh.
but put these little stars (above the 8) on the BEGINNING & END of you comment.
But yep, that makes boldfaced font here.
Thank You.
The guys missed 5 months of baseball. It's really safe to say he's not 100%
For Utley that is.
true. I guess he is a better option than Berroa.
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/wp-content/uploads/baseballbugs.jpg
Don't forget his home run yesterday, too.
Now he just needs some run support.
[Pitch tracker shows it to be just a hair outside the strike zone.]
Silence in the booth.
It proves everybody wrong every time.
Come on Dewitt, bring him home.
>>The Phillies and Dodgers resume playing baseball after Buzz-gate, the much ado about two total hit batsmen on two soft breaking balls in three games. For some reason saying that apparently offends Dodger fans like stealing Chad Kreuter's cap.<<
Blanton is starting you off with straight heat down the middle, please adjust.
sincerely, Blubleeder.
Maybe it is karma.
Is Summer Heights High as good as it looks?
They're not hitting him hard.
...still, get that bullpen ready, Joe.
Blake's defense is not that much better than Nomar's to make up for the fact that he cannot hit against Blanton at all.
Yeah, it is quality.
the ump has an erratic strike zone but I guess it's working for both teams 2-1...
Hiroki Kuroda, Manny Ramirez, Shane Victorino, J.C. Romero and three coaches were fined as a result of the incidents in Game 3 of the NLCS.
In case anyone was wondering, the price for throwing a pitch that could potentially end a player's season, or maybe even his career or life, is $7,500, or 0.06 percent of what Kuroda earns annually (if he remains healthy, he'll earn about $4,000 per pitch over the length of his deal). Ramirez and Victorino were fined $2,500, while Romero was penalized $1,000.
A walk might qualify.
LETS GO DODGERS!
Manny Ramirez owns Joe Blanton.
You make the call!
they've got good set up for Lidge but that's about it no.
Plus the pitcher's spot is coming up in the inning.
Even by Molly.
judging from everybody's comments, we're all in agreement.
I'll help: Zofran, Zofran, Zofran.
PLEASE DOUBLE PLAY.
Keep playing with fire and you are going to get burned!!!
Howard was the main reason for bringing in Kershaw. Do. Not. Want.
Come on Chan Ho. Strand those runners.
3 for 11 with a HR and 3 K's.
Torre has mis-managed this badly.
I mean come on...who doesn't see it?
I saw K/Guo warming up yesterday.
ahh!!!
Call the ball.
my heart can only take so much!!
I hate baseball.
How not to manage 101.
sike
and we know it's just baseball...blah blah blah. And even though it's just baseball...it it so much more you have to admit. Thanks for trying though...this board needs a shrink
"Stopped they must be; on this all depends"
Yoda would either make it worse or you would totally lose focus of what is going on.
Torre's a genius.
I will, don't worry.
Wow.
Let's do this thing!
Hopefully I will continue to feel that way about him after this inning.
Furthermore, if you're going to bring him out an inning before the pitcher's spot comes up, for the love of God, do a double switch!
Torre's a genius for starting him! ;-)
that's right!!!
3-1 pitch way outside!
Pierre with a double!!!
THE CURSE LIVES.
you don't send the bison up there to sacrifice
I say that a lot.
LOL, we're all pumped up right now. hehehe
He can't stay with Beimel. He just pinched-hit for.
* got
One of these is not like the others.
He might hit one out.
Ridiculous I know; this is the age we live in
Yes! Nice throw buddy.
that's a world-historically bad throw.
His D is WAY better in my opinion but I think Torre remembers those horrid AB's Hu had earlier in the year Vishal...
4 for 4 with 2 HR's and three walks.
my buddy keeps on texting me about that...
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/09/15/apples-itunes-ringtones-and-the-complex-world-of-copyright-law/
Poor Vishal, about 2 weeks behind on Roster Thoughts. ;-)
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/08/07/create-ringtones-for-free-with-just-itunes
The best part about going to Stanford (besides, um, the academics) was that our band would chastise our rooting section when the cheers weren't creative enough.
They didn't like it when people yelled "SUCKS" after the announcement of the starting line-ups, and they didn't like the "overrated" chant, arguing that if a team weren't as good as its rating, that would mean our beating them didn't mean as much. And they were right.
No, Hu's is, but he had some pretty bad AB's earlier in the year. to be honest, I really didn't see Ozuna play D all that much so I'm just going by what I hear around here, Hu's D doesn't impressive me all that much to be really honest, but of course we'd seen Izzy play here so....
The Dodgers haven't flashed any "make some noise" signs in the postseason, as far as I know. These crescendos are generating on their own! [It definitely happened that way during the LDS]
Guess I won't be eating my dinner now after all.
i gotta copyright that one...
Act like you've been there before.
He pitches the eighth inning. Easy decision.
1. Kuo's 0-1 breaking ball on Utley
2. Broxton's outside corner sliders to anyone
that's kind of near Porterville (love driving over there, beautiful) I have family near there bro.
I'd take him out, sure, it's tempting to keep him in but if it were up to me i'd take him out, we need him for the duration.
8) Pierre is taken out of the game. Kuo goes into his spot.
9) Kemp pinch hits for Beimel and stays in the game in CF.
Switching spots is not legal or Manny would be up there a lot.
Ah, ok, to be fair it was Kuo who revived buzz-gate.
I mean, let's keep things in perpective.
plus it's kind of cold...
I almost typed earlier that a member of Milli-Vanilli is behind the plate.
Angel Berroa, SuperDefensiveSub!™
now get...Kuo.....outa there
you think he was going for the obviation?
I shouldn't think it, b/c I know what Brox's gonna do to him;)
Why would you want Kuo out? He's been amazing all year against everybody, not just lefties
Go Browns!
It's looking that way.
I sort of did.
What else is on?
I'm glad I waited to eat dinner. I would've tossed it there.
He wasn't leaving the ball up. His velocity wasn't down. Victorino just went in and got it.
We still should be up by at least 2 runs if we had any luck. This just feels horrible.
The add on runs we couldn't get, Torre now uses the whole bullpen.
He wasnt precise at all. Burrell swung at a bad pitch and the pitch before was a fastball down the heart. you cant blame Cory, this is all o n Torre's shoulders.
Is it because he is Canadian or his moustache?
And the world cries.
Game 4 N.L.C.S.
Took me 24 hours to recover from the Lakers.
I'm gonna need 48 at least.
Then again, we have to get out of this hellacious inning first.
I shouldn't say that. I'm just upset.
I blame:
1) Torre's bullpen mis-management.
2) Frip's gut.
AND STOPPING PLAYING THAT #$#%% ROCKY MUSIC EVERY TIME PHILLY SCORES!!!!
I haven't given up on everything, however.
Huh? They scored five runs. There just aren't any reliable relievers in this pen. Even Broxton got beat today.
I need a beer. And a shoulder to cry on should a need arise.
Dewitt, Martin, and Kemp both hit shots with either runners on 2nd and 3rd or the bases loaded. If even one drops, its 2 runs. Thats being severely unlucky to have 3 line drives caught in those situations.
what?
{cry}
{drink}
There's been so much bad luck, in addition to everything else, for LA today it's hard to even know what to say.
Still, I think Kuo was the one egregious mistake.
And regardless, it's been a great ride, and a lot more than I expected.
You hit it on the head, I wondered why he didn't try and extend Lowe, but could understand that one. I guess I would have prefered Kuo staying, but again no add on runs, when there was chances, and Andre has to take that pitch.
Whatever happens during this game, you guys on this board rock. I mean, I know for a fact that everyone's gonna be bummed and all if they lose, and go crazy if they win. But if we don't win the WS or advance to it...I know that you guys are gonna be there talking about off-season Manny rumors and every thing else. I don't know when the next Dodgers World Series win will come...but I'm happy that I'll be checking this board when it happens. And I DO think it will happen soon.
You guys rule!
Good one.
I feel you man.
I got a fever and the only prescription is a Loney Bomb.
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What scares and depresses me, looking ahead, is that we really do need to sign Manny, and CC Sabathia. Not one. Both. Unfortunately for us, our young core is...OK. Pretty good. I suppose it's possible Kershaw will turn out to be everything we've dreamed he one day will be, and Billingsley will...good like Brad Penny used to be. We have a bunch of solid guys in Martin, Loney, Kemp, Ethier, hopefully DeWitt, with more solidity ahead--hopefully--in...DeJesus, I guess. But we're thin. And right now I don't think a one of those guys will prove to be truly great. Nor Broxton, alas.
It's been a beautiful dream. But I'm awfully sour on it right now.
Anyway, I'm not too optimistic about this game at this point either but not giving up on it or the series.
That strike one call was practically at the catcher's foot.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
And one of the Phillies says a naughty word they shouldn't be broadcasting on TV.
Maybe I'm just being emotional, but it sure seems that Torre violated Rule One (not that rule one --- rule one of managing): First, do no harm. WHY PULL KUO?! ESPECIALLY FOR WADE, WHO PITCHED SO MANY PITCHES LAST NIGHT?!
And Bison is out. Waiting two days is going to be horrible.
Can't help but believe Torre's overthinking blew that game up.
There interviewing Victorino right now, boy he must feel in cloud nine.
Matt Stairs...
Kind of like Karros.
1) Why did Lowe exit after 5 innings and 74 pitches?
2) Why did Ethier swing at the first pitch after Furcal drew a leadoff walk? Frankly, this irked me more than anything.
1) Why did Lowe exit after 5 innings and 74 pitches?
2) Why did Ethier swing at the first pitch after Furcal drew a leadoff walk? Frankly, this irked me more than anything.
Oh well, that's baseball. I was really looking forward to going to bed with a smile on my face and it hurts to have things turn around on me so fast.
I feel like I felt when I learned my grandmother had died
Thanks Dodgers, you killed my grandma
1) I didn't think the Dodgers would get this far. I was happy they did, and given the randomness of the NL, anything was possible.
2) I have a very good dog right by my side who is watching the game and really doesn't seem to be too fazed by it. I'm following his lead on that.
I'm just kidding, but I want to!
This one leaves a mark.
Ha. So true. Win or lose, at least you all are funny enough to make it all worth it.
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If I say it enough times, eventually I'll convince myself not to be upset.
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Take a day off, Dodgers and figure out who the hell you guys are. Then play that way. (And manage that way.)
http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/zeke/images/Burrell.jpg
But I wouldn't rank it quite that high.
(I also have 3 super bowl losses that I'd put higher as well.)
1067 I'm with you on that. Hamels is beatable. Myers and Moyer/Blanton are EMINENTLY beatable.
"We're confident every day. It doesn't matter how things go for you. We're not going to give up. We're just going to go and play the game, like I've said, and move on. If it doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like the end of the world or something."
And they took it from there. So yeah. It's not over. Chad will come up big Wednesday. Bet on that.
Also, the Yankees were up 3-0, not 3-1.
This Dodgers team is none of those teams. Same with this Phillies team. If Chad Billingsley can implode, so can Cole Hamels.
We all claimed that this game was a must-win because we expected to a likely loss to Hamels. Well, if they can still send the series back to Philly, it will be no different than if they had won tonight and lost on Wednesday.
Worry about Game 5.
Actually, coming back from a 3-1 deficit is not a freakish occurrence. It's uncommon but it happens. You're referring to the Red Sox being down 0-3 and coming back. That was a once in a lifetime event. We're not in that dire situation. It's semi-dire.
1. Broxton's pathetically predicable right-down-Broadway fastball to Stairs.
2. Ethier's brainless swing at the first pitch he saw from Lidge to bounce into a DP after Furcal had walked.
oy... I keep telling myself 2 of my teams already exceeded preseason expectations and that the third team is still in title contention... and that I have it better than most fans, including Philly. never helps.
Well, I'm going to finally eat dinner now that my stomach isn't as nervous, even if I have less appetite and dinner is cold. :-(
Here's to a valiant win on Wednesday, and making Phillies fans sweat a little at least.
The team played hard tonight. They got beat. Go out, boys, and do it again on Wednesday. Hopefully things will work out, and if they don't, what a hell of a ride this has been.
Hopefully by then we'll have figured out how much of a donation it will take to get him to print the [Rule 1] comments too...I have a feeling there are a few in the thousand comments up there waiting to be read.
The Phillies deserve to play in the World Series, so an early congrats goes out to them and their fans.
I hate looking for excuses after losing games, but there are a couple things I'll always remember about Game 4...
-- Why did Torre pull Derek Lowe after five innings? Certainly Lowe had one more inning in him, didn't he? Lowe was cruising in innings two through five.
--Why did Torre pull Kuo after Howard's leadoff single in the eighth? I'll take my chances with Kuo over Wade/Broxton any day -- especially considering Wade pitched two innings the night before. Kuo is one of the best relief pitchers in the majors, and he had an EASY seventh inning.
--I hate to say it, but the Dodgers might have to seriously consider giving Manny Ramirez the 5-year, $125 million contract he so covets. We just don't have much of an offense without him, and frankly I don't see it getting a whole lot better in the years to come. Without Manny, we're probably a .500 team again next season.
all we can do now is play with nothing to lose and a reckless abandon, I'm not sure if "its just a game" is necessarily accurate for all because I believe there's a little truth behind falling in love with baseball.
but like any relationship, i wont give up in even the most desperate of times lets go blue
Yeah, but if you suffered through the Jack Clark HR, chances are that you also were "suffering" when Tommy sent up Mike Davis to hit against Dennis Eckersley. Fans my age don't have that luxury.
Lastly, for one and all, for Joe to say that if he had it to do all over again...
Oh, almost forgot, for what makes it inexcusable, well, in his post-game remarks Joe referenced Kuo's arm woes and said something about how every time he pitches he feels something. Fine. Then why on earth did you warm him yesterday and then not bring him in? If his arm's that fragile that he can't go two...
Has that ball landed yet?
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