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Two scenarios, not the same but not so different...
Tampa Bay rookie David Price, 23 years old with 15 innings of major-league experience, faces J.D. Drew while trying to protect a two-run lead in Game 7 of the American League Championship Series. Drew goes down on a 1-2 pitch that looked outside. (Was it an unchecked swing?) Price closes out the game. A nation celebrates Rays manager Joe's confidence in the kid.
Los Angeles rookie Clayton Kershaw, 20 years old with 109 2/3 innings of major-league experience, faces Ryan Howard while trying to protect a one-run lead in Game 4 of the National League Championship Series. Howard walks on a 3-2 pitch that seems to capture a chunk of the strike zone. Kershaw gives up a single and a sacrifice and is pulled. A nation mocks Dodger manager Joe's confidence in the kid.
Whatmighthavebeens are the devil's plaything, and I would start with Rafael Furcal's error in NLCS Game 1 anyway. But if Kershaw gets that strike-three call on Howard ... I sigh just thinking about it.
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Speaking of sighs, just caught last night's Mad Men.
That Greg, I don't like the cut of his jib.
But good for you, Peggy, way to get a new office.
Another chilling, but great episode.
As regards the comparison, first, it's a 1.93 ERA and 0.93 WHIP versus a 4.26 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP. The former may be skewed by small sample size, but it's still more reassuring than the latter. More important is the game circumstance. Kershaw comes in with the whole pen still intact. When Price came in, it was either Price or EJax or Miller, or Kazmir [as he was down in the pen]. It wasn't going to be Miller, since even with small sample size, JD's 3 for 6 with a HR doesn't inspire much confidence. EJax doesn't give the L v. L thing and that's almost beside the point, what with JD's 6 for 14 against EJax. Kaz was there for emergency purposes and, apparently, bases loaded with two gone in the 8th isn't an emergency. In other words, I understand why Joe spoke of having confidence in his man, but the truth is simply that Price was all that was left for the occasion.
The intriguing aspect here, well, if one buys into the need to have a "classic" or "true" closer, the Rays don't have one. So maybe now Price closes during the WS since he's the closest thing the Rays have to a "classic" or "true" closer.
Are umpires created to drive people crazy?
Especially the ones like Angel Hernandez and Gary Darling?
I know this is a simplistic analysis but stats aside I think these generalities are true. This Philly team in my belief has a critical weakness and that is their SP. Outside of Hamels, their SP is nothing to write home about. It was the Dodger inability to punish their pitching in games 2,3 and 5 that cost them this series. I would even go as far to say that parts of their relief pitching is overrated. There is a reason J.C. Romero and Scott Eyre were tendered at points are floated around the league. Mix in some astounding luck(a pitcher with 3 hits and rbis in a game/closer giving up a 1st hr in home park since 06) coupled with some awful mistakes by the dodgers and you have a 5 game NLCS. I think it also went somewhat unnoticed how the Dodgers pitching I think by and large effectively contained the Phillies main batting order from doing significant damage throughout the series. Make no mistake, the Dodgers were a better, more complete team. And I fully expect that the Rays are going to expose the Phillies in this World Series. They should destroy Myers, Moyer and Blanton. If not I'll be as disgusted as when the Cardinals won in 06. Go Doger Rays!
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ToyCannon, did Amir Mahn and I not pick the Rays?
http://www.truebluela.com/2008/10/2/626865/postseason-contest-grid#comments
(Note to the DT faithful: I picked the Rays over the Dodgers as the anti-jinx.)
Is Manny worth any price?
How is Jason Schmidt throwing and feeling these days?
Will Juan Pierre be traded?
I've been reading that Larry Bowa might return to coach third base for the Yankees.
http://tinyurl.com/5fby6f
As for the fighthing, I wouldn't say Duncan takes on fights "so the players don't have to." It's more like he's just a hot head. And I think it causes more problems in those situations. Heck, Torre had ENOUGH problems getting the whole team to calm down when they cleared the benches in the Philly game. Then all the sudden (if you saw it) he has to try and corral Duncan and Bowa TOO! Ha! I mean...
You are correct, my cylinders are not firing in the correct sequence at the moment.
On that note I expect big contributions from Schmidt and Jones in 2009:)
I read today that Jones will be asking for a trade (atlantabraves.com) and that the Braves are a possible destination. Is he drunk? He OWES it to the Dodgers to put his head down, get in shape, and play a decent center field for us next year.
I wonder if there has ever been a case where a player has been non-tendered while still being owed $22 million. Russ Ortiz is the worst that I can think of, but I think he was owed only $21 million.
I can understand Pierre asking for a trade. He was signed to be the starting CF, and he gave us what he has. Then we signed another CF, so I would want to go somewhere else too.
But Jones? I mean he just didn't show up to play.
This is only a technicality, but Andruw's remaining salary is "only" $15m. The remainder is part of a signing bonus spread out over a few years. I think of the remaining salary as what another team would owe Andruw if somehow he were traded straight up.
Ortiz had close to $20m left on his contract when dumped in June 2006.
I'm at the other end of the spectrum. The $15m owed to Jones is dead money, a sunk cost. If the Dodgers can trade Andruw without having to pay all of his salary, I'd be for that.
He may never be able to perform for the Dodgers but I still think this man has plenty of baseball left in him.
Another case of Boras getting top dollar but not taking of his client needs which really should be his ultimate goal. It will be very interesting to see how Boras handles this situation.
He needs to erase the bad taste of Jones/Schmidt/Pierre with some brilliant offseason moves. But Colletti and brilliant don't belong in the same sentence.
But Manny was brilliant so give him that. For years the RedSox have tried to move Manny at the deadline because of his shenanigans but no one could pull it off until Ned did. Ned not only pulled off the deal he pulled it off under some serious salary constraints in that we could not take on salary. It was brilliant and you are right it probably saved his job.
But Jones never came around and started hitting, so yeah, eventually they turned on him.
Maybe we went to different games or it was where I was sitting but it seemed to me he was being booed almost from the onset.
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No one falls in your lap when you have multiple teams involved in a deal. He had his work cut out to make it happen and he made it happen. It was a huge gamble at the time he made the deal. Manny was not exactly inspiring confidence in the other 27 GM's to go after him. Who knew he was faking his knee problems or if not faking that he would play through the pain like he did for us.
It's hard to be sympathetic to Andruw; he got a big contract coming off a subpar year and he needed to stage a least a little bit of a rebound. Instead, he looked fat, which L.A. fans perceived as uncaring (and isn't perception everything in this town?), and all we got were occasional flashes of his CF abilities and scant traces of his HR power.
I'm not blaming the fans, they had every right to boo his performance. Just saying he never had it happen before.
But we know the current crop of Dodger fans are anything but soft and dispassionate. I find it hard to believe that fans in other cities are any worse then the current group that insult the opposing teams from the loge and pavilions. I've sat near fans who spent the whole game yelling at the left fielder totally oblivious to what is going on baseball wise and only concerned with being heard and noticed.
He's 37 and been playing professional baseball for 20 years, I expect anyone with the same history to have sore knees. When he wanted out of his contract he used the knee as an out. When he wanted to create a new contract he played on his knees. If we give Manny a 3 year deal because that is all that any sane GM would offer, how does anyone think he will start acting at age 39 when he wants an extension and doesn't see it happening with the team he's currently employed with. I would love to see Manny at age 37/38 playing LF for the Dodgers, I totally fear what Manny and his mental state would be at age 39 in the last year of a deal he was probably not happy to sign in the first place since envisions a 5 or 6 year deal.
He was an icon in Atlanta and they had enough history with him that they didn't boo his hard times in 2007. At least my brother tells me so.
I wonder if the overly gorged fans in portion of the RF pavillion near CF gave Jones the business? Irony?
Also, despite what Pierre wants, I do think that to some extent, both Torre and the front office don't mind him being a really expensive fourth outfielder.
In other words, they will not trade him just to get another player with a similar contract.
I recall a 23 year-old lefty coming out of the bullpen and surrendering a 2-run lead on a 3-run HR by a light-hitting Adam Kennedy in an elmination game of the ALCS. The southpaw was Johan Santana.
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