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2009 Minor League Staff Assignments
2008-10-31 14:11
by Jon Weisman

As announced by the Dodgers today. ... Welcome back, Lenny Harris.

Albuquerque Isotopes (AAA)
Manager – Lorenzo Bundy (third season in this position)
Hitting coach – John Moses (second)
Pitching coach – Jim Slaton (second)
Athletic trainer – Greg Harrel

Chattanooga Lookouts (AA)
Manager – John Valentin (Inland Empire manager in 2008)
Hitting coach – Luis Salazar (third)
Pitching coach – Glenn Dishman (second)
Athletic trainer – Yosuke Nakajima

Inland Empire 66ers (A)
Manager – Carlos Subero (managed White Sox' Birmingham/AA team in 2008)
Hitting coach – Jason Wood (first – played with Florida last year)
Pitching coach – Charlie Hough (third)
Athletic trainer – TBD

Great Lakes Loons (A)
Manager – Juan Bustabad (second)
Hitting coach – Michael Boughton (first)
Pitching coach – Danny Darwin (second)
Athletic trainer – Zachary Hoffmann

Ogden Raptors (Short-season A)
Manager – Damon Berryhill (managed Rangers' Bakersfield/A team in 2008)
Hitting coach – Henry Cruz (Inland Empire 2008)
Pitching coach – Chuck Crim (was a Dodger scout)
Athletic trainer – TBD

Arizona League Dodgers (Rookie)
Manager – Jeff Carter (second)
Hitting coach – Leo Garcia (first)
Pitching coach – Casey Deskins (third)
Athletic trainer – TBD

Dominican Summer League Dodgers (Rookie)
Manager – Pedro Mega (third)
Hitting coach – Tony Mota (third)
Pitching coach – Kremlin Martinez (fourth)
Athletic trainer – Luis Santana

Field coordinator – Mike Brumley (managed Ogden in 2008 and served as assistant field coordinator)
Hitting coordinator – Gene Clines (second)
Pitching coordinator – Rafael Chaves (first)
Outfield/baserunning coordinator – Rodney McCray (second)
Infield coordinator – Matt Martin (third)
Catching coordinator – Travis Barbary (third)
Field coordinator, Campo Las Palmas – Antonio Bautista
Catching coordinator, Campo Las Palmas – Jose D. Martinez Hernandez
DSL assistant – George Bautista
Senior advisor to player development – P.J. Carey (was Dodgers' minor league field coordinator)
Rehab coordinator/physical therapist – Dave Rivera
Strength and conditioning coordinator – Landon Brandes
Strength and conditioning coach – Stephen Downey
Strength and conditioning coach – Yousef Zamat
Pitching instructor – Aaron Sele

Based in Glendale, Arizona
Coordinator – John Shoemaker (managed Jacksonville 2005-2008)
Pitching – George Culver (GCL Dodgers pitching coach in 2008)
Senior hitting coach – Lenny Harris (Washington hitting coach in 2008)

Comments (255)
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2008-10-31 14:20:58
1.   Harold M Johnson
What player in the Dodgers farm system had the greatest Minor League career? (not a trivia question, I'm just curious).
2008-10-31 14:21:47
2.   bhsportsguy
No love for Aaron Sele?

I guess Shoemaker got a promotion or at least a transfer to sunny Arizona.

2008-10-31 14:24:17
3.   blue22
It's his 2nd season, so certainly this observation has been made, but this one amuses me:

Outfield/baserunning coordinator – Rodney McCray

2008-10-31 14:26:47
4.   Bob Timmermann
I wish to salute the parents who named their son Kremlin Martinez.
2008-10-31 14:27:10
5.   Jon Weisman
2 - According to Tony Jackson, it's a promotion - he's basically running the new Dodgertown.
2008-10-31 14:27:23
6.   Jon Weisman
4 - Yeah, that was my favorite.
2008-10-31 14:27:24
7.   Eric Stephen
Gilberto, going back to the last thread, I'm not down on Kemp or Loney by any means. They are key components of this club, and I expect them to improve in 2009 and that will be a huge boost to the Dodgers.
2008-10-31 14:28:04
8.   Gilberto Reyes
3 Nothing like being taught by a guy who will run through walls for you.
2008-10-31 14:34:58
9.   D4P
Damon Berryhill...? Wow. Haven't thought of him in a long time.
2008-10-31 14:35:53
10.   Gilberto Reyes
7 I understand. Some people feel that their careers are regressing or stalling based on their 2008 numbers and I feel that it is too early to make that assumption.
2008-10-31 14:37:24
11.   Bob Timmermann
Damon Berryhill caught Jamie Moyer in 1987.
2008-10-31 14:47:10
12.   D4P
"The cir-cle o-of li-ife."
2008-10-31 14:51:18
13.   Gagne55
Wow. It looks so strange not having AAA Las Vegas and AA Jacksonville.
2008-10-31 14:56:06
14.   Eric Stephen
At least 13 of the coaches above are younger than Jamie Moyer.
2008-10-31 14:57:49
15.   Gilberto Reyes
13 Albuquerque doesn't seem strange because we are just going back to the old days. I hope that they don't have to wear those bright red and yellow uniforms that the Dukes used to wear.

Chattanooga! Now that seems strange. And what is a Lookout? No more Jacksonville Fives.

2008-10-31 15:06:49
16.   Jim Hitchcock
Wow. RIP Studs Terkel. Quite a writer. And a great character.
2008-10-31 15:12:38
17.   underdog
16 Indeed. :-( Oddly, I was just re-watching 8 Men Out the other night, where he and John Sayles play sportswriters (Hugh Fullerton and Ring Lardner), and thought, I wonder if he's still around, and looked it up, and he was. And now he's not. Sigh.

Such an important guy in American journalism, history, writing...


Oh, and put me down as a fan of Kremlin Martinez. Though, shouldn't he be with the Reds?

2008-10-31 15:16:36
18.   Eric Stephen
I hope Kremlin Martinez does a better job than the last Dominican pitching coach we had, Reichstag Johnson. Man, I hated that guy.
2008-10-31 15:17:30
19.   Jim Hitchcock
17 He wrote his own epitaph:

"Curiosity did not kill this cat."

2008-10-31 15:37:55
20.   Bob Timmermann
RIP, Studs Terkel
2008-10-31 15:40:04
21.   Bob Timmermann
Sorry missed 16
2008-10-31 15:48:42
22.   68elcamino427
Potential Free Agent Fill In's

Whattya Say???

Out Fielders (Left Fielders)
Raul Ibenez
Garret Anderson
Juan Rivera
Ken Griffy Jr.
Bobby Abreu
Milton Bradley
Manny Ramirez
Adam Dunn
Pat Burell

Mark Texeria

Orlando Cabrerra
Joe Crede
Edgar Rentaria
Hank Blalock
Casey Blake
Rafael Furcal
Orlando Hudson

Jason Varitek
Ivan Rodriguez
Henry Blanco
Jason LaRue

A J Burnett
Joe Beimel
Derek Lowe
Chan Ho Park
Ryan Dempster
Brian Fuentes
CC Sabathia
Jon Garland
Darrin Oliver
Francisco Rodriguez

So the Dodgers need:
*Two infielders?
*Four bench players?
*A Back up Catcher or a Catcher with Martin as 3B/Back up Catcher?
*Two Starting Pitchers?
*Three Reief Pitchers?

Do you feel that any of the above players could fit some of the Dodgers needs?

Or are there Other Players that I have omitted and should have included?

2008-10-31 15:48:49
23.   Kevin Lewis
Per the camera discussion in the last thread.

I am looking for a good entry level SLR that I can upgrade via the lens later on, but it will mostly be used for family events, vacations, sports, etc. Primarily indoors, though.

2008-10-31 15:51:23
24.   Jon Weisman
"Hiroki Kuroda will donate $100,000 to the Dodgers Dream Foundation, including a portion that will benefit the team's official charity, ThinkCure."
2008-10-31 15:53:17
25.   Kevin Lewis
I like Hiroki more and more these days.
2008-10-31 15:56:15
26.   adrian beltre
24, 25 i really couldnt agree more. a logger at my company labeled hiroki as "hideki" kuroda, and i gave her a stern talking-to, exaggerating the negative impact of her mistake mostly because i feel like he deserves a lot more as a pitcher and in general.
2008-10-31 15:59:47
27.   ToyCannon
Lookout Mountain where civil war battles were fought. It has a view of multiple states. Very cool place.
2008-10-31 16:04:24
28.   Rob M
Damon Berryhill went to my high school. He graduated the year before I started my freshman year, but he was basically all everything. I remember going to football games and he was the star linebacker, running back and kicker as well as being a star Catcher for the baseball team.
2008-10-31 16:15:38
29.   bhsportsguy
Dodgers filing today for free agency.

Los Angeles Dodgers
Garciaparra, Nomar (1B); Johnson, Jason (RP); Sweeney, Mark (1B)

2008-10-31 16:28:05
30.   D4P
He's a veritable Darrin Erstad.
2008-10-31 16:28:49
31.   arborial
4 it's the uplifting story of a Dominican cigar roller who orders a Russian mail order bride and after years of infertility is finally able to have a child who grows up to be the pitching coach for the Dodger's affiliate. ESPN 8 is doing a feature on the story of triumph next month.
2008-10-31 16:31:28
32.   Marty
People should read Hard Times.
2008-10-31 16:35:50
33.   ToyCannon
Is that the new name for the LA Times?
2008-10-31 16:41:11
34.   Jim Hitchcock
32 Dangit, Marty...that led me to the Hard Times Cafe website, and now I'm really hungry.
2008-10-31 16:45:42
35.   Eric Stephen
I guess this story will be in Jerry Maguire 2: Electric Boogaloo:

2008-10-31 16:54:26
36.   Jim Hitchcock
35 Wow, in one accident he hit three parked cars and knocked over a fire hydrant.
2008-10-31 16:54:49
37.   Gen3Blue
Is it the Hard Rock LA Cafe Times?
2008-10-31 17:06:02
38.   heyblue
RE: Post 1 - I would guess Greg Brock had the best minor league career in Dodger history, just off the top of my head. Mike Marshall (the outfielder) had pretty good minor league numbers. Paul Konerko, too.
2008-10-31 17:09:20
39.   Tripon

Type-A/Type-B FAs are out.

Lowe and Manny are Type-A's

Beimel, Casey Blake, Kent, Maddux, Penny, are type-B's.

2008-10-31 17:11:50
40.   Jim Hitchcock
2008-10-31 17:13:01
41.   fanerman
39 Awwwww.
2008-10-31 17:15:22
42.   das411
so THAT's what happened to Lenny Harris!!

in other news, Chase Utley is even more awesome today than he had been. Pix of post-WS mayhem downtown and (eventually once they upload) today's ballpark ceremony here:

2008-10-31 17:30:01
43.   Tripon

Andruw Jones wants to go back to the Braves. We should let him and ask him to get out of the contract.

2008-10-31 17:40:06
44.   bhsportsguy
43 We can't ask him out of his contract. He can talk all he wants about wanting to go back to Atlanta but there is probably no way MLB would approve a deal with the amount of cash the Dodgers would need to send for Atlanta to take him.

About the only thing the Dodgers can do would be to outright release him but they would still have to pay him all of his salary.

2008-10-31 17:40:40
45.   Icaros

I wonder why Furcal isn't listed, and what type he is.

2008-10-31 17:42:03
46.   bhsportsguy
43 I also think he is talking about after 2009.

[Jones] said it's been tough adjusting to a new team, and misses the guys from the Braves clubhouse. For now, his goal is to return to Los Angeles healthy and "finish strong."

2008-10-31 17:47:18
47.   Tripon
45 Furcal isn't a type-A or type-B. His injury year for 2008 killed his value for SS.

Its hilarious that Edgar Renteria is a type-A. Who the heck would give up a first rounder for him?!

2008-10-31 17:48:26
48.   fanerman
47 (frantically knocks on wood)
2008-10-31 17:59:01
49.   Tripon
Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Johnson and Mark Sweeney all filed for free agency today, joining Manny Ramirez, Greg Maddux, Joe Beimel, Derek Lowe and Casey Blake from Thursday. That leaves Jeff Kent and Rafael Furcal and possibly Pablo Ozuna (option) as the only potential free agents yet to file. Forty-man roster is at 32, not counting 60-day DL guys.

2008-10-31 18:09:26
50.   Icaros

But he OPS'd 1.012!

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2008-10-31 18:09:41
51.   Icaros
2008-10-31 18:12:26
52.   D4P
Yes, "OPSed" is DT parlance.
2008-10-31 18:17:44
53.   Tripon
The longtime NFL agent Leigh Steinberg was arrested last week on suspicion of being drunk in public. Police say they got a report about a man "screaming and attempting to climb a hill" at about 8:00 p.m. on October 22, and the officers who responded to the call arrested Steinberg. Police say they smelled alcohol and Steinberg's speech was slurred, but he was not in possession of alcohol at the time.

I am imagining Scott Boras doing this, and it makes me giggle.

2008-10-31 18:21:48
54.   Tripon

D'Backs picked up Raunch's 2010 option.

2008-10-31 18:22:58
55.   Gagne55
43 Not that it would happen, but is it possible for a team and player to mutually agree to terminate a contract and send the player into free agency without the team responsible for the money? Does the CBA disallow this?
2008-10-31 18:30:00
56.   bhsportsguy
55 I am going to say no, basically because A-Rod just wanted to change some of the terms of his contract regarding deferred money prior to potentially being dealt to Boston.

If I was advising Jones, I would tell him to just go to LA for 2009 and collect your money. I don't think I want to give up my commission because he wants to play in Atlanta.

2008-10-31 18:31:46
57.   bhsportsguy
53 Steinberg has had other incidents.

Boras only seems to upset certain fans, general managers and MLB executives. I think he is just doing his job.

2008-10-31 18:35:26
58.   superbas
22 if we can't resign manny i'd like us to focus on the infield with furcal and hudson, and starting pitching. at this point i'd pick up penny's contract.
2008-10-31 18:44:34
59.   Gen3Blue
22 I think "Bench players" is irrelevant in the beginning. Once you fill your positions, you see who is left before you would go after bench players. For instance Pierre and Jones and Young are going to be on your bench. Also Schmoidt unless you can get him on the DL.
2008-10-31 18:46:49
60.   Gen3Blue
38 Brock and Marshall had some amazing HR totals in Alb, and maybe in San Antonio too.
2008-10-31 19:03:30
61.   Gen3Blue
57 Boras does only seem to upset a subset of the people that he deals with, but with young players, he only thinks about his % of contracts, and about a third of them seem to end up in miserable situations. I can't really back this up with stats., but I don't think Beltre,Jones, and a few others are really happy.
2008-10-31 19:07:47
62.   Indiana Jon
1 38 60

Just off the top of my head, I nominate Sid Fernandez.

2008-10-31 19:10:56
63.   68elcamino427
Monetarily picking up Penny's contract makes sense (9-2=7)but the muscles in the back of his shoulder are shot. Velocity with no control. He had plenty of time off this season to see if time would heal.

Example - Grab onto a fixed object with your arm at the release point. Pull back with the tips of your fingers and feel the muscles that are flexing around the perimiter of the outside of your shoulder.
Isolate the index finger, Middle finger, ring finger and thumb.
When a pitcher is throwing the ball at 92 mph the 5.9 ounce ball has the equivalant weight of about 59 pounds because of the force theat is being created by the speed of the hand attached to the ball. Pushing the ball and generating force is not the issue for Penny - he can still generate 94 mph. The issue is that he is unable to exert enough force with the muscles in the back of his shoulder to fine tune his control around the edges of the strike zone.
This is why I feel the the $7 million "bargain" is more like lighting the money on fire by giving it to Penny.

2008-10-31 19:23:29
64.   Tripon
For the Cubs, that is a speedy leadoff hitter, preferably one who's a switch hitter or bats left-handed -- anything that would allow them to move Alfonso Soriano out of the top spot. The same need exists for the White Sox, who know they're guaranteed one major acquisition this offseason -- a healthy Carlos Quentin -- but also realize they won't go anywhere with the same slow, plodding lineup.,CST-SPT-deluca31.article

2008-10-31 19:25:22
65.   68elcamino427
You are correct in that the big money is going to go to the position players and the bench is somewhat a process of elimination.
For me it is not a given that Jones or Pierre should be back. Jones is done and no amount of "cardio work" is going to help him get the bat in the right place at the right time. Peds or whatever - stick a fork in him - he's over done. Without his ridiculous "Boras" contract we wouldn't even be thinking about the gut ... er I mean the guy.

Pierre - enough has been said already.

The Dodgers have needed a reliable player at SS since the day Furcal went out of the line up. Counting on him to stay healthy for an entire season just doesn't add up any longer when considering his service time on the field during the life of his last contract with the Dodgers. I would only consider him as a part time player at second base. He creates a lot of tourqe with his swing and his lower back couldn't handle the deceleration last year. This isn't something that just "happened". This is the result of years of swings.
Just my opinion.

2008-10-31 20:36:49
66.   bhsportsguy
61 The player is the "boss." Boras works for them for his fee.

If the player has regrets, it really isn't Boras' fault.

2008-10-31 20:43:29
67.   Jon Weisman
I happened to re-watch the Cincinnati episode of the Brady Bunch tonight. If I were Mr. Phillips, I would really consider firing Mike. Not only was he reckless and irresponsible, but if I had seen his phlegmatic response to the crisis of the missing plans, I would have been doubly infuriated.

Of course, Mike was phlegmatic out of his own frustration with the scripts. So maybe Mr. Phillips should fire Sherwood Schwartz.

2008-10-31 21:00:26
68.   Tripon
66 Sometimes the agent has his own agenda over what the Player wants.

Example: The Clippers and Elton Brand. It was disgusting what David Falk said and did to move Brand to the 76'ers just to prove that he was still relevant. A player trusts his agents to give him the best information available, but they don't have any safeguards if the the person they trust has their own ideas what should happen.

2008-10-31 21:06:06
69.   68elcamino427
We used to have a big blue Dodge van.
With the three kids and a few players riding into the parking lot of the Little League field the vehicle was dubbed
"The Brady Bunch Van" by innocent bystanders.
And so it was known forever more:)
2008-10-31 21:16:59
70.   Daniel Zappala
My next door neighbor is Mike Brady. His wife is Cindy. Which is kind of confusing.
2008-10-31 21:46:05
71.   Eric Enders
1 38 60 62 How about Mike Piazza?

The best minor leaguer in Dodger history, going strictly by minor league performance, might be some Quadruple-A guy we've barely heard of. Actually, Tommy Lasorda wouldn't be a half-bad pick. Lifetime record of 107-57 with Montreal.

2008-10-31 21:50:59
72.   Eric Enders
66 "The player is the "boss." Boras works for them for his fee. If the player has regrets, it really isn't Boras' fault."

In theory, you'd be right. In practice, Boras seems always to do what's best for the Scott Boras Corporation, even if that is at odds with what's best for the client in quesiton. Once you hire Boras, you basically have to do whatever he tells you. And if you dump him as your agent, he'll sue you. (see: Sheffield, Gary; Hochevar, Luke.) So in the specific case of Boras, the player actually has somewhat limited options and is by no means the "boss."

2008-10-31 22:09:13
73.   68elcamino427
Scott Boras
So good at his job. Is he the tops in his field? Is he too good? He plays by the rules. He makes lots and lots of money.
A master of manipulating hype and hysteria.
2008-10-31 22:22:19
74.   Tripon
73 Boras doesn't really play by the rules, he tries to subvert and tarnish them any way possible until they lose all meaning.
2008-10-31 22:28:22
75.   68elcamino427
Like Barry?
Are they similar in some respects?
2008-10-31 22:38:09
76.   Tripon
75 Barry Bonds?

Or Drew Rosenhaus?

I feel that Boras does what he does sometimes is not to help his current client, but to set the landscape for future clients.

The Pedro Alverez case was to me, basically telling teams and future clients that he is not a man to be messed with. Even as his client would have been served to get into camp as fast as possible since the Pirates gave every indication that they were going to fast track Alverez and start his major league clock. Whats the difference between a few hundred thousand in a bonus that Alverez could make in his first year of arbitration? Now, he's set back and might not be called until the end of 2009, esthetically under Priates control for at least one more year than he had to be, and one more year away from free agency, where he can make his real money.

2008-10-31 22:49:13
77.   caseybarker
So, do you think Brad Penny paved his way out of LA with his fight at the Key Club last night?
2008-10-31 22:51:26
78.   68elcamino427
The gutty former minor league second baseman would do such a thing? On purpose?
Your comment is very good.
Wonder how many similar "chess moves" could be brought to light?
They can't be pinned on him. Only inferred.
2008-10-31 23:07:25
79.   Tripon
77 Only if he broke his pitching hand. If he did, the Dodgers could use that as an excuse to not pay for Penny's buyout. Saying that Penny's action shows that he has regard for himself and his future employment, so why should the Dodgers be made to invest in any more time or money in Penny?
2008-10-31 23:17:43
80.   scareduck
57 - Boras only seems to upset certain fans, general managers and MLB executives. I think he is just doing his job.

Sure, if by "just doing his job" you mean "misrepresenting the capabilities of his clients".

2008-10-31 23:18:22
81.   scareduck
72 - In theory, you'd be right. In practice, Boras seems always to do what's best for the Scott Boras Corporation, even if that is at odds with what's best for the client in quesiton.


2008-10-31 23:37:10
82.   underdog
Happy Halloween everyone!

So in response to Steve Henson's piece this week about Phillies fans, he prints some emails he received in kind. Some of which basically prove his point. And Dodger fans are also mentioned here as a defense of Phillies fans, which is the main reason I bring it up.

And now I'm sugar-crashing from candy overdose, so I'm off to slumberland.

2008-10-31 23:37:53
83.   underdog
Hrm, that tinyurl didn't work. Well, you can find it here:
2008-10-31 23:45:12
84.   Linkmeister
Hey! Chuck Crim! He was a really good pitcher for UH from 1980-1982! He was on the same team as Derek Tatsuno, who won 20 one of those years. The only time UH got to the CWS was in 1980, I think.
2008-10-31 23:50:21
85.   68elcamino427
Scott Boras
Perfect Halloween fodder as the clock strikes midnight.
2008-11-01 00:48:44
86.   Eric Stephen
The initial hoops AP poll is out. UNC is a unanimous #1. Here are the Pac-10 teams:

15) ASU
18) USC (I am surprised they are this high)
35) Washington
41) WSU
44) Arizona
52) Stanford

No votes for Cal or the Oregon schools.

2008-11-01 01:04:41
87.   Eric Enders
84 Crim was the guy who scouted and signed Andrew Lambo for us.
2008-11-01 01:07:48
88.   Eric Enders
86 A lot of those votes were probably cast before Arizona lost their best incoming freshman, Jeff Withey, yesterday. The ship continues to sink. Stanford will definitely finish ahead of them and I'm thinking Cal and Oregon will too.

And hey, I just found out that Oregon finally started a baseball team for this coming season. Were they the last holdout in the Pac-10?

2008-11-01 02:14:40
89.   Benjamin Miracord
67 Remember that Cincinnati episode of "WKRP in Cincinnati"?

Wait, there was more than one??

2008-11-01 02:16:38
90.   Benjamin Miracord
119H2+18Ca(CN)2+6NaAlF4+12FeSO4+6MgSiO3+6KI+2H3PO4+12PbCrO4+24BrCl+6CF2Cl2+24SO2 = 12PbBr2+12CrCl3+6MgCO3+6KAl(OH)4+12Fe(SCN)3+2PI3+6NaSiO3+18CaF2+110H2O

You do the math.

2008-11-01 02:41:46
91.   Dodgers49
Yankees Looking at All Options, Including Ramirez

2008-11-01 06:57:24
92.   D4P
I just found out that Oregon finally started a baseball team for this coming season. Were they the last holdout in the Pac-10?

Oregon used to have a baseball team, but cut it (sometime in the early 90s, I believe).

2008-11-01 07:16:42
93.   Eric Stephen
The 2nd of 3 Dave Roberts to play for the Padres was an Oregon Duck.

2008-11-01 08:06:07
94.   Ken Noe
Perhaps Penny simply is frustrated by FOX's decision to delay Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse." As if Whedon and FOX haven't danced this dance before.
2008-11-01 08:12:09
95.   LAT
If I am Frank I sit back and let Manny/Scott exhaust themselves. If someone is stupid enough to give them what they want this early while their demand is so high there is nothing the Dodgers can do about it. If Frank makes an early bid, Boras will just use it against the others and the Dodgers. Let someone else narrow the paramiters of a deal and then Frank should move in and do a little better.
2008-11-01 08:16:54
96.   Bob Timmermann
Oregon used to have a baseball team, but cut it (sometime in the early 90s, I believe).

Actually, it was all the way back in 1982.

2008-11-01 08:29:11
97.   Eric Stephen
Looking at the Dodgers' free agent rankings, I think the most draft picks they will receive as compensation is 6:

Type A (2 each)
Lowe, Manny

Type B (sandwich pick each)
Beimel, Blake

I don't think the Dodgers will offer arbitration to Kent or Maddux*, for fear they would accept, and if they are going to offer arbitration to Penny they would just pick up his option.

*I think if Maddux comes back, the two sides will work on a deal for something less than the $10m Maddux received in 2008 (since he would probably receive somewhere near that in arbitration). For Maddux, it's either SD or LA, and the Padres don't look to be adding costly players right now.

2008-11-01 08:34:30
98.   Eric Stephen
Also, if the Yankees end up being the super shoppers they are rumored to be, the Dodgers' compensation for Manny may be reduced greatly.

Elias Scores
Tex 98.889
CC 98.110
Manny 93.438

If the Yankees sign all three players, the Dodgers would receive a sandwich pick (between rounds 1 & 2) plus the Yankees' 3rd round pick (instead of 1st).

2008-11-01 08:51:56
99.   LAT
For anyone contemplating children, try for boys. This morning is my younger daughters Bat Mitzvah and let's just say there is enough drama in my tiny house to light up the entire City.

As the only memeber of my family that doesn't wear make-up or do my hair, I hope I survive.

2008-11-01 09:08:47
100.   Jon Weisman
99 - Some might say you should try for boys who prefer sports to Hebrew school, but perhaps that's short-sighted. Good luck, LAT.
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2008-11-01 09:14:05
101.   bhsportsguy
99 Is that the Shawn Green fan? In any case, congratulations.

Oh, how was the cooking final?

2008-11-01 09:15:30
102.   Greg Brock
99 Yihyeh beseder!
2008-11-01 09:23:21
103.   ToyCannon
It could be Falk knew what was best for Elton and that was to get him the heck away from the Clippers. He already had one major injury, he doesn't need a 2nd. He actually has a chance for all-star games and going deep in the playoffs with Philly and he wasn't going to get that here. Why play 2nd banana in this town when you can own Philly? As much as I regretted losing Brand, I think he made a great decision.

I have no idea if what you are saying is true but it was an interesting read.

2008-11-01 09:29:20
104.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Good luck on the Bat Mitzvah. Having dealt with countless Quineañeras I easily imagine the drama.

BTW, anyone know of a decent apartment for rent? (just thought I'd take shot here)

2008-11-01 10:07:31
105.   Kevin Lewis
My wife has even said she would rather have all boys vs. all girls. Well, we got one boy, so we will see how that goes.
2008-11-01 10:18:03
106.   PalmdaleSteve1
Parking Lot Frank is missing opportunities with all this talk about Andruw wanting to go back to Hotlanta.

Why in signage space alone on the bulk that is Andruw Jones he could make serious jack.

Maybe do a promotion like Taco Bell did in the World Series. Every time Andruw swings and wiffs, Neutrasystem gives everyone one free John Kruk approved food item.

2008-11-01 10:21:36
107.   Bumsrap
95 Sounds like the Beltre negotiations and maybe an alternative definition of being LATed as in Manny got LATed in negotiations with the Dodgers.
2008-11-01 10:37:24
108.   Bumsrap
I would like to see the Dodgers tell Boras they can't afford another of his free agents until Jones" entire contract is with another team. How does Boras make this happen? Well, Manny now has established precedent with the Players Union when he forced the elimination of his option years. Jones and Pierre should now be able to demand a trade ala Manny and be allowed to renegotiate their contracts in a way that makes them tradeable.
2008-11-01 10:44:20
109.   goofus
I know the purpose of displaying advertising is for the purpose of making money but I particularly hate the trashy stuff like the "Free IQ Test". It is like the emails we get all the time to win a new lap top or vacation or whatever. Pure sleaze. Answer questions, give all your address data, look at endless pages of advertising. Definitely not a classy thing to promote.
2008-11-01 10:46:03
110.   PalmdaleSteve1
108 JP is a much easier sell than Jones. JP at least plays the same game he has for years, maybe not one that fits with where the Dodgers want to be, but about the only game plan with Jones is the after game spread.
2008-11-01 10:53:38
111.   D4P
Actually, it was all the way back in 1982

Woah. Didn't realize it was that long ago.

2008-11-01 10:58:52
112.   Tripon
103 Except Elton personally lobbied Baron Davis to jump ship to the Clippers, and already hashed out what he wanted to get paid by the Clippers. It wasn't until Falk heard that he was squeezed out in the process that Falk took over and steered Brand to the 76ers.

Its akin of planning to get married to your fiance for the last 5 years, buy a house in the neighborhood you love, and a child on the way. And then you suddenly bolt to Panama with a skanky girl you met five minutes ago because you suddenly panicked, and is having a huge midlife crisis.

2008-11-01 11:58:48
113.   ToyCannon
Only because you realize life would be hell with the girl you knew, and while the future is uncertain with the new girl it might be better then the devil you know.

You putting much to much blame on Falk for this transgression. Elton is a grown man with large business properties who made his own decision to save his neck at the expense of his current and future teammates. Falk took the fall but Elton knew what was going on the whole time. Money talked, winning talked, blaming Falk for Elton's greed at wanting a better contract and a chance to win in an easier league seems misplaced. The Clippers had the opportunity to give him the best contract offer and they failed to do so because they felt he was in the bag. When another suitor showed up they made a last minute effort to match the salary and did so but by then it was to late. Ego in a professional athlete should never be underestimated.

2008-11-01 12:17:23
114.   Louis in SF
Just listened to Torre being interviewed by Bob Costas on the radio and very little knew came out, other than he said that Wade might have been a little tired in game 4 after having pitched two innings in game 3.

His take on Manny was also not that revealing, but he did stress the reports that Manny seems to want along term deal. Wonder if we the Dodgers could offer Manny three years at 25mil each and two more option years at 15million each year but with an option to be bought out for about 5 million each year once the third year is completed?

2008-11-01 12:57:55
115.   Tripon
Do you try to sign Ivan DeJesus Jr., or Andrew Lambo to long term deals using Evan Longoria's contract as a base?
2008-11-01 13:04:12
116.   Tripon

Current Daily News beat writer Tony Jackson has moved to Arizona, right across the new Dodgers Spring Training facilities. Will stay as Dodgers beat writer for the Daily News.

2008-11-01 13:31:49
117.   scareduck
116 - I bet he can get property for nothing out there now. Last year on my way back from spring training, we caught an abandoned Albertson's supermarket in the middle of an unoccupied subdivision, all new property in Goodyear, Arizona:

2008-11-01 14:33:43
118.   natepurcell
Do you try to sign Ivan DeJesus Jr., or Andrew Lambo to long term deals using Evan Longoria's contract as a base?

They are not Evan Longoria good though.

2008-11-01 15:05:35
119.   ToyCannon
God no, we are hoping they have major league careers, the Rays are hoping Longoria has a HOF career.
2008-11-01 15:10:11
120.   Eric Stephen
If the Dodgers are in the market for a backup catcher, the Cubs declined Henry Blanco's 2009 option. He's not exactly the best hitter out there (.227/.289/.364, 65 OPS+ career) but he throws out runners like nobody's business (43% CS career).
2008-11-01 15:18:43
121.   Eric Stephen
Forgot the link to the option declined story:
2008-11-01 15:37:40
122.   Bob Timmermann
Quadruple OT at Notre Dame.
2008-11-01 15:38:32
123.   trainwreck
Just lose ND.
2008-11-01 15:40:40
124.   trainwreck
There ya go.
2008-11-01 15:48:33
125.   Bob Timmermann
And I thought Charlie Weis always had a decided schematic advantage.

Stanford has found that playing Washington State is just what the doctor ordered after the loss at UCLA.

2008-11-01 16:17:30
126.   Bob Timmermann
Have the networks projected a winner yet in the USC-Washington game?
2008-11-01 16:40:25
127.   trainwreck
Washington just ask the Pac-10 to cancel the second half.
2008-11-01 16:49:12
128.   Bob Timmermann
At this moment in the Pac-10
California private schools: 93
Washington public schools: 0
2008-11-01 16:54:55
129.   LAT
100-102. Thanks for all the good wishes. She did great and it came off well. Now onto the party.

Remember those moments when you were a kid where your Dad was ready to leave on time but your Mom and sisters were late and his frustration grew by the minute. My 99 was the product of that.

BH, I had to forego the last session of the cooking final. Instead of proceeding with the house construction in this economy we wound up buying a new place and putting ours on the market. Between open houses, showings, escrow and bat mitzvah, something had to give.

2008-11-01 18:12:46
130.   trainwreck
I would just like to point out that I really wanted UCLA to hire Mike Leach.
2008-11-01 18:38:20
131.   Bob Timmermann
Is Mike Leach going to be your version of Jayson Werth/Cody Ross/Shane Victorino?
2008-11-01 18:56:19
132.   trainwreck
No, I just saw my chance to pretend I am a football expert.
2008-11-01 19:24:25
133.   Tripon
Dodgers right-hander Hiroki Kuroda, who left his native Japan to sign a three-year, $35.3 million contract with the club last winter, has donated $100,000 to the Dodgers Dream Foundation, with a portion earmarked for the team's official charity, ThinkCure. Kuroda lost both of his parents to cancer and is hoping to generate support for ThinkCure in Japan.

Note: The $100,000 donated to ThinkCure was mandated by Kuroda's contract. Not that he wouldn't do it if asked, but mandating donations to charities in a contract I find odd.

2008-11-01 19:44:42
134.   neuroboy002
109 I understand your frustration, especially when the answers they give you are wrong. With that stupid triangle for instance, I counted at least 48 triangles. There are probably more but working with no extra paper I lost track. If anyone else cares to figure it out, there are 25 of the small red green, blue and white ones. Go from there.
2008-11-01 20:40:25
135.   CajunDodger
Though I am operating from memory and can not point to any documented proof, I have heard of this type of thing before. It usually is the player's idea since ownership can not force a player to do anything like this. In some cases, there is an agreement to lower the player's salary slightly in exchange for a matching donation from ownership (I think Jamie Moyer did something like this for his foundation but I can't find the article).
2008-11-01 22:05:01
136.   underdog
Disturbing things you see when flipping cable channels on a Saturday night: Todd Bridges is one of the pundits on TruTV's Dumbest Criminals countdown show. I was going to call it ironic but I guess he is indeed an expert.
2008-11-02 01:02:22
137.   trainwreck
Thank you, extra hour.
2008-11-02 02:46:38
138.   Eric Enders
Man. Football sucks.
2008-11-02 06:34:56
139.   Daniel Zappala
I believe one of my few comments last week was to express my amazement that people were discussing BCS matchups while assuming none of the top teams would lose their last few games. Eric, I'm sorry it had to be Texas, but it happens every year.
2008-11-02 07:08:38
140.   D4P
Speaking of Damon Berryhill: I remember Harry Caray calling him "Damon Berryman" at least once.

Course, Harry called every player the wrong name at least once.

2008-11-02 08:49:29
141.   Bob Hendley
John Lindsey has joined Lorenzo Bundy in Mazatlan, where Stults and Tiffee are also playing. Lindsey will share time at 1st base with old friend Myrow and local slugger Roberto Saucedo.
2008-11-02 09:00:14
142.   Ken Noe
140 Or pronounced the player's name as if spelled backwards. "Now batting, Nomad Ll-ihyr-reb!"
2008-11-02 09:08:30
143.   berkowit28
134 48 triangles is correct. So what's the IQ of someone who devises such a test with multiple choice answers none of which is correct, doesn't get anyone to check it first, then displays it here? (P.S. I'm not going to click such a lamebrain's link to find out what he's advertising.)
2008-11-02 09:21:22
144.   Who Is Karim Garcia
anyone know of a link for the Raiders game today?
2008-11-02 09:29:26
145.   Marty
Well Eric, at least Texas lost to a very good team. Wasn't like it was Oregon State.
2008-11-02 09:54:02
146.   caseybarker
That's Pac-10 frontrunner Oregon State.
2008-11-02 11:28:33
147.   Andrew Shimmin
There's cricket on ESPN2. Googling to find out who the team that isn't England was (turns out that unlike Actober, there's more than one Stanford), I found out it's a tape. Still. Cricket. On television. That's something.
2008-11-02 11:29:53
148.   Ken Noe
Your daily hot stove rumor, c/o the Boston Globe: Pads targeting Broxton in a Peavy deal:

2008-11-02 11:30:19
149.   Andrew Shimmin
Stanford's bowler has a little K-rod in him.
2008-11-02 11:33:01
150.   D4P
Setting aside that particular rumor, I wouldn't really be all that surprised if Broxton were traded, assuming Management has another "Closer" in mind.
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2008-11-02 11:33:53
151.   Black and Blue
Stanford is the ground and club. Privately owned by a billionaire. The team is some sort of West Indies all star team - I guess whoever the billionaire wants to pick. That game was winner take all for $20 million.
2008-11-02 11:37:17
152.   Black and Blue
Allen Stanford is a Texan apparently.
2008-11-02 11:39:07
153.   Tripon
150 Shakin loves K-Rod for the Dodgers but I can't see them adding Peavy's contracts, and K-Rod's contract. That's will be 25 million in 2009, and effectively takes us out of the Manny, Furcal, and C.C. sweepstakes. I will pass.
2008-11-02 12:01:07
154.   berkowit28
147 (Stanford cricket.) Thanks! Going to watch it now.

There are other big-money cricket tournaments also being planned worldwide. (An unofficial one started up in India, but there are also official involvements of several countries' national cricket organizations, like England's in this match, participating.) It's this new "Twenty20" version - slam-bang cricket that takes only a couple of hours to play. There are some - including I think Stanford - who believe that properly introduced, with an investment of a billion dollars or something like that - it could be a hit in the USA. Hmmmm. I think the world broadcst rights to one of these tournaments were sold to a combined Sky (Murdoch) and ESPN for $1 billion. Watch this space over the next few years.

2008-11-02 12:05:57
155.   trainwreck
Download a program called Sopcast and you can find a feed with that. Or TVU Player.
2008-11-02 12:06:36
156.   Ken Noe
150 153 With the caveat that hot stove rumors are usually worthless, I'd make that swap, providing that we didn't have to give up Kershaw, McDonald, or Kemp.
2008-11-02 12:08:18
157.   Andrew Shimmin
The official instant replays are a nice foretaste of the feast to come in MLB, I think.
2008-11-02 12:09:17
158.   trainwreck
Signing K-Rod would pretty much be the dumbest thing the Dodgers could do.
2008-11-02 12:16:31
159.   Black and Blue
154 How do you think it will go down in the US? I find Twenty20 almost unwatchable but I was brought up on test cricket. Plus I was a bowler and I see all these new games as unfairly eroding the bowler's advantage.
2008-11-02 12:18:15
160.   Tripon
The Padres struggled mightily this year, but judging by the pained look on De Jon Watson's face, they made a potentially good trade with the Dodgers at season's end.

Watson is a Dodgers executive who helps oversee the club's farm system. When asked about Michael Watt, a Dodgers minor leaguer pitcher the Padres acquired at season's end, Watson winced in discomfort before a Dodgers playoff game last month.

"He's a good one," said Watson, the club's assistant general manager, player development. "We certainly thought a lot of him."

Watson said Watt, a 19-year-old left-hander, has two "swing-and-miss pitches" and athleticism that give him a chance to become a solid starter in the major leagues.


2008-11-02 12:21:07
161.   Andrew Shimmin
I think cricket could be big in the US if, instead of running the whole lineup each time, they only allowed three batters per inning. And quit bouncing the ball when bowling it. And got rid of the wickets, rounded out the bats, added a couple extra bases, cordoned off the area of the pitch behind and beside the base area as foul territory. . .
2008-11-02 12:23:54
162.   Andrew Shimmin
Josh Hamilton has, it seems, changed his name to Chris Gayle. He's grown out his hair and gotten quite a tan, too.
2008-11-02 12:24:39
163.   berkowit28
It's proved so successful in tennis, they're trying it in this offbeat cricket. It will probably make to regular cricket. There are more measurables in cricket than baseball, but I suppose lbw judgments are quite analogous to ball/strike decisions in baseball: lines drawn in the air.

Meanwhile, I've never seen so many sixes (like a home run) as this West Indies captain is getting. Pretty amazing.

2008-11-02 12:25:34
164.   Andrew Shimmin
163- I'm not an expert, but it appears that Chris Gayle is good at cricket.
2008-11-02 12:27:14
165.   Black and Blue
161 I try that argument on people who go to Twenty20 here. Ah well, my son had his first t-ball training on Saturday. 30 kids all keen to give baseball a try in NZ and over 100 from Under 14 down. It was nice to be with a big group of people and be able to talk baseball. And interesting that it's not just expats by any means.
2008-11-02 12:28:21
166.   trainwreck
Good thing we gave him away for nothing.
2008-11-02 12:31:11
167.   Andrew Shimmin
Maybe if there were a celebrity cricket show on television, Americans would watch it. Those dancing shows get an audience. Barry Bonds, call your agent! Kato Kaelin, you too.
2008-11-02 12:33:12
168.   Black and Blue
163 I'm sure it will make it to regular cricket and I'm not sure I can even argue against it any more. As long as it's quick I suppose. I just think that it will change the game a fair bit. I'm certain that the machines will result in far more lbw decisions against the batsmen - umpires have for decades extended the idea of benefit of the doubt goes to the batsmen to ridiculous extremes. There's a chance players will have to learn new techniques which will involve much less use of the pad and more of the bat.
2008-11-02 12:56:40
169.   Andrew Shimmin
Get a few strike outs, give up ninety-nine runs, and still win the MVP. Broxton should think about taking up cricket.
2008-11-02 13:16:03
170.   trainwreck
Oh hell. Matt Vasgersian is calling the Raider game.
2008-11-02 13:18:29
171.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Grrr... Still looking for a feed for the Raiders.
2008-11-02 13:43:33
172.   natepurcell
I ran into Eric Byrnes last night in a club in Scottsdale. At first I didn't think it was him cause he was shorter than I thought. But his forearms were humongous....end of story.
2008-11-02 13:56:32
173.   trainwreck
Trust me, it is much better that you are not watching this game.
2008-11-02 13:58:03
174.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I'm officially a football-fan-free agent. Anyone want to represent me?
2008-11-02 14:40:01
175.   trainwreck
I think Notre Dame could possibly beat the Raiders.
2008-11-02 14:40:56
176.   CajunDodger
As (perhaps) the only Saints fan here, we would be happy to have you on our squad. Pathetic history leading to mediocre recent history, but a fantastic quarterback with 3-4 very good west coasters (Bush, Ellis, and Colston) can give you some link to local players.

If the Saints were a stock, I would liken them to Apple. Hard hit by circumstance in recent weeks, but with solid fundamentals and exciting products (Shockey, Vilma, Colston, Henderson, Brees, and Bush), it is definitely time to buy low.

Warning: I made this same argument in my head in '92 when we won 12 games in 1992.

2008-11-02 14:58:47
177.   Who Is Karim Garcia

Interesting. Anyone else with a pitch for their team?

2008-11-02 15:11:39
178.   Bob Timmermann
You can never go wrong as a fan of the Detroit Lions I always say.
2008-11-02 15:40:03
179.   Eric Enders
You know, the screwiness of the BCS isn't made any better by the fact that the voting pools for the coaches' and Harris polls consist largely of morons.

Texas fell to #7 in the coaches' poll, behind USC, Florida, and Oklahoma. Now let's take half a second to look at this.

SC and Texas both have one loss. Texas's loss is the best possible loss you can have: on the road, to an undefeated team, on a touchdown with one second left in the game. USC's loss was to Oregon Freaking State, a team the coaches rank 31st in their own poll. Texas's best wins (#1 Oklahoma, #6 Oklahoma State, #11 Missouri) are far better than USC's best wins (#5 Ohio St., #23 Oregon).

In short, there's no conceivable justification for any voter, let alone the majority of them, to put USC ahead of Texas on their ballot.

The same applies to the Texas-Oklahoma comparison. Both teams have one loss, and it's a very good loss. (Texas lost to an undefeated #7 on the road; Oklahoma lost to an undefeated #5 at a neutral site.) Texas has three victories over top 11 teams; Oklahoma hasn't beaten anyone ranked higher than 16th. Texas won head to head on a neutral site. Again, there's no defensible justification for voting Oklahoma over Texas.

The polls are voted on by people who either (a) have an ax to grind, (b) have their heads firmly enclosed in their posteriors, or, most likely, (c) both. They wouldn't be worth complaining about if the system didn't rely on them to such a large degree. People complain about the computers, but frankly, the computers do a far, far better job of ranking the teams than the human beings do.

2008-11-02 15:42:45
180.   Eric Enders
Incidentally, the new Sagarin rankings are...

1. Texas Tech
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. Penn State

... which seems just about right, except I guess you could argue for flipping Tech and Alabama.

2008-11-02 16:15:12
181.   D4P
Here's the really stupid part about college football rankings:

Say #15 plays #20.

According to the rankings, #15 is better than #20, and thus #15 should win. We should think no better of #15 if they win, and no less of #20 if they lose (especially if the game is reasonably close).

Say #15 wins, in a reasonably close game.

What happens? Does #15 stay at #15 and #20 at #20, as they should?

NO! All of a sudden, we think #15 is better than we used to think (i.e. #15 moves up), and we think #20 is worse than we used to think (i.e. #20 moves down).

2008-11-02 16:22:21
182.   Eric Enders
Yeah, that's another thing that's always bewildered me. The basketball polls work the same way. It's like you have to sign a contract agreeing to forego all common sense before they let you vote in one of the polls.
2008-11-02 16:24:26
183.   Bob Timmermann
I refuse to recognize a world where Texas Tech is considered to be the best college football team in the land.

It's not that I hate the good people of Lubbock.

But it's just weird. It's weirder than Tampa Bay playing in the World Series.

2008-11-02 16:25:16
184.   trainwreck
What do you expect from sports writers?
2008-11-02 16:30:28
185.   trainwreck
I forgot to add ; )
2008-11-02 16:34:55
186.   Eric Enders
"It's not that I hate the good people of Lubbock."

Trust me, you would if you knew them.

2008-11-02 16:39:21
187.   bhsportsguy
184 Tomorrow night, the short Jrue era of UCLA basketball begins.
2008-11-02 16:42:21
188.   JJ42
160 Yeah. I'm still bitter about the Mike Watt trade.
2008-11-02 16:42:32
189.   Bob Timmermann
Can a computer look into a team's heart?
2008-11-02 16:45:25
190.   trainwreck
Just in time to save me from football.
2008-11-02 16:51:26
191.   Ken Noe
Better Tech than those people up the road in Tuscaloosa.
2008-11-02 16:52:01
192.   Eric Enders
Before the big UCLA-Texas game we should have some sort of friendly wager like mayors do. If UCLA wins I'll send the Bruin supporters here some Chico's Tacos or Salt Lick BBQ. If Texas wins you guys can send me Philippe's or something.

How do the mayors and governors ship all that stuff when the bets are paid off anyway? Do they pack everything in dry ice, or what?

2008-11-02 16:53:07
193.   Bob Timmermann
They waive the Thirteenth Amendment temporarily.
2008-11-02 17:02:26
194.   bhsportsguy
192 You got it.

Luc Richard is playing right now as the Bucks are beating the Knicks in the 4th.

11 points, 9 rebounds, 2 steals so far.

The Knicks have 71 points with a 8:44 left in the game.

2008-11-02 17:03:54
195.   caseybarker
I suppose the good people of Lubbock are for the most part like those of Austin or Dallas.
2008-11-02 17:05:36
196.   Eric Enders
195 Austin:Lubbock::West Hollywood:Bakersfield
2008-11-02 17:32:59
197.   68elcamino427
Missing the Dodgers so here is a suggestion for next season:

*Sign Varitek and have him catch 100 games.

*Martin plays 62 games at catcher.
*Martin plays 80 games at 3B
*Martin plays 2 games at 1b
*Martin gets 18 games off.

*Sign Furcal
*Furcal plays 82 games at 3B
*Furcal plays 38 games in LF
*Furcal gets 40 games off

*Young plays 124 games in LF
*Young plays 14 games in RF
*Young gets 24 games off

*Kemp plays 155 games in CF
*Kemp gets 7 games off

*Ethier plays 148 games in RF
*Ethier plays 7 games in CF
*Ethier gets 7 games off

*Loney plays 160 games at 1B
*Loney gets 2 games off

*Resign Berroa
*Berroa plays 82 games at SS
*Berroa plays 10 games at 2B
*Berroa gets 70 games off

*Bring up De Jesus
*DeJesus plays 80 games at SS
*DeJesus plays 10 games at 2B
*DeJesus gets 72 games off

*DeWitt plays 142 games at 2B
*DeWitt gets 20 games off

*Bating Order
1 Furcal - S
2 Ethier - L
3 Kemp - R
4 Loney - L
5 Martin - R
6 DeWitt - L
7 Varitek - S
8 DeJesus/Berroa - R
P Sabathia

*Follow this plan until the All-Star break and then make any necessary changes.

2008-11-02 17:42:50
198.   trainwreck
I petition to have the name Jason Varitek banned from DT.
2008-11-02 17:44:41
199.   D4P
Players who OPSplussed 73 in 2008 include:

Jason Varitek
Juan Pierre

2008-11-02 17:50:51
200.   Eric Enders
A.J. Ellis would be an infinitely better choice than Varitek for our starting catcher next year. You'd get approximately the same production for 1/30th the cost.

Not that I'm advocating either one of them. Talk about fixing something that ain't broke...

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2008-11-02 17:51:53
201.   68elcamino427
Yeah I considered his offensive offense but he brings it on Defense.
The Catcher's first job is to take care of the Pitchers.
The Red Sox Pitchers have performed very well - consistently - over a long period of time.
2008-11-02 17:53:34
202.   trainwreck
I think it is because the Red Sox are an incredibly well run franchise that has collected good pitchers.

Not like Varitek has been working with scrubs.

2008-11-02 17:59:02
203.   68elcamino427

Would it be fair to say that Martin has been working with a staff of pitchers that are similar in thier level of talent and ability to that of the Red Sox staff?

2008-11-02 18:04:02
204.   Bob Hendley
197 - Apart from the JV business, there's a lot of Pee Wee love in that proposal and creative use of Rafi. But the inclusion of Sr. Snipes Sr. begs the question: Hu, do you love?
2008-11-02 18:08:01
205.   Marty
I don't get having Berroa on the same team as Furcal and playing Berroa at short. I think Martin handles the pitchers just fine, just get a backup you want to play 35 games.
2008-11-02 18:11:08
206.   trainwreck
No, Martin has never caught anyone like Pedro Martinez.
2008-11-02 18:12:04
207.   Ken Noe
David Ross or Javier Valentin had better seasons at the plate, would be a lot cheaper, and wouldn't cost draft picks. But none of these guys, Varitek included, would be more than Casey Blake-esque band-aids. Having foolishly moved Santana, the Dodgers need to go with Martin until the farm (or someone else's farm) can produce an eventual replacement.
2008-11-02 18:12:43
208.   trainwreck
Our pitching numbers have been good too, so I do not see where Martin is hurting the staff.
2008-11-02 18:14:06
209.   caseybarker
Does anyone think it might be a good idea to explore a trade for a catcher and move Martin to third? I was thinking specifically of the Rangers and their surplus of catchers.
2008-11-02 18:18:05
210.   bhsportsguy
Not that I think it means much but the Dodgers pitchers gave upthe fewest runs in the NL and Martin was out there for most of those pitches.

With 5 weeks to go, it appears my winning a t-shirt from Eric Stephen comes down to this, if two out of these three things happen, USC will not be in the BCS Championship, one, Texas Tech, Oklahoma or Texas win the Big 12 championship with just one loss, two, an undefeated Alabama plays a one loss Florida team in the SEC championship team, and three, Penn State finishes undefeated.

2008-11-02 18:19:05
211.   Ken Noe
209 The Rangers want a pitcher for a catcher. FWIW, I think Martin's way too young to move away from the plate, though.

2008-11-02 18:23:34
212.   bhsportsguy
207 The deal helped win the NL West, kept the Dodgers in the news for another month and allowed the Dodgers to move DeWitt to second in September.
2008-11-02 18:27:15
213.   caseybarker
I was thinking of Salty: it may be good idea to explore a trade while his value is low.
2008-11-02 18:44:54
214.   trainwreck
If the NBA season ended today Russell Westbrook would probably be ROY. : )
2008-11-02 18:54:37
215.   68elcamino427
Snipes Sr. manned the position for the big stretch run. His bat began to look better during this time.
Hu can continue at AAA and "see" if he can return to his AA form.
DeJesus is and larger man than Hu and was showing some power in the latter part of the season.

Furcal is off of short in order to take some stress off of his body. The same is true for the time off.

This also provides flexibility at SS if things don't work out with DeJesus.

In no way is Martin hurting the staff - quite the contrary.
This way he still gets 62 games behind the plate. His bat may improve with a move like this. We saw how his bat speed increased after the few days off before the playoffs.

This is a band aid for two years until the Dodgers can re-stock and either develop another catcher or follow a course of action as suugested in 209

2008-11-02 18:57:32
216.   trainwreck
Actually, never mind, I was looking at pre-season stats.
2008-11-02 19:01:44
217.   68elcamino427
Thanks for the feedback everyone.
This was fun:)
2008-11-02 19:12:56
218.   Ken Noe
212 Santana was a lot to give up for 58 games of .251/.313/.460/OPS100.
2008-11-02 19:32:14
219.   fanerman
If Russell Martin caught the same amount of games as "normal" all-star catchers, there wouldn't be any talk of moving him to another position.
2008-11-02 19:58:52
220.   Eric Stephen
I am now a big fan of -- in no particular order -- LSU, Florida State, Missouri, Iowa, Michigan State, and Auburn.
2008-11-02 20:07:00
221.   Eric Stephen
College football games I care about this week (Eric Stephen rooting interest in bold);

Penn St @ Iowa, 12:30pm
Auburn @ LSU, 12:30pm
Baylor @ Texas, TBA
Oklahoma St @ Texas Tech, TBA
Florida @ Vanderbilt, TBA
Oklahoma @ Texas A&M, TBA
Cal @ USC, 5pm

2008-11-02 20:10:58
222.   Bluebleeder87
Chan Ho Park filed for free agency saturday [ ]
2008-11-02 20:15:33
223.   ToyCannon
Casey Blake helped us win the NL West? I thought he'd help but he really didn't.
Just about anyone could have done what Casey did including Terry Tiffee.

Who knew that when we had Tatis in the spring of 2007 in Vegas that he would have been our best option for 3rd base in 2008. Or was that 2006? It looks like he never played in our minor leagues but I sure remember him being in camp for us not to long ago.

It would be kind of irritating if we throw away Tiffee and then he goes on, to outhit our 2009 3rd base options. Not that I expect it, but then I didn't expect Tatis to do what he did in NY.

Crazy game

2008-11-02 20:16:00
224.   Bob Timmermann
It was only a matter of time before Eric and Buster Olney's views coincided.
2008-11-02 20:18:12
225.   ucladodger
I really feel bad for Texas Tech. They win the biggest game in their school history and see the next two games on their schedule are against Oklahoma State and Oklahoma. That division of the Big 12 is just stupid. Those four teams could probably each win the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, and Pac-10.
2008-11-02 20:28:48
226.   Eric Stephen
I plan on going to the batting cage this week to practice making productive outs, just to give some good karma to Vandy.
2008-11-02 20:30:58
227.   Eric Stephen
Two completely random notes:

1) I finally got Food Network HD, which is surprisingly greater than I expected (and I watch a good amount of regular Food Network)

2) Playing the harmonica is fun but hard, especially if one has no musical talent whatsoever

2008-11-02 21:49:51
228.   LAbits
Get Ross, if he's amenable, for the backup; he'll catch up with a few mistakes while he's hitting and have decent defence/calling when behind the plate.

Martin's value is behind the plate, not at 3rd.

Varitek?! I'm done with signing for big $$ other team's over the hill players that they know enough not to sign.

2008-11-02 21:54:44
229.   LogikReader

Mannn, Penn St @ Iowa better not be bumped off ABC for the Stanford vs Oregon game. At least I hope ESPN can mirror the Penn State game.

Apologies to Jon in advance.

2008-11-02 21:56:37
230.   Gagne55
I really don't see USC playing for the national title even if they win out the rest of the way. There are too many teams ahead of them and the Pac-10 has been atrocious this year. Any one loss SEC or Big 12 team will rank ahead of them as they have no more quality opponents to beat other than maybe Cal. Even the Big 10 and Mountain West conferences have played better than the Pac-10 this year.
2008-11-02 21:59:00
231.   LogikReader
You may be interested in my complete BCS Championship Game breakdown over on LOCKS of the Week.

Here's the direct link:

Included in this post is a quick scenario that shows how USC can get into the BCS Championship game. It is a stretch, but surprisingly more reasonable than I thought.

2008-11-02 22:07:31
232.   Gagne55
231 You say Alabama should be eliminated, but then in the same paragraph say that Florida might lose the SEC title game to Alabama. If Alabama wins the SEC, they're in ahead of USC unless they're a two loss team.
2008-11-02 22:15:58
233.   Gagne55
The Mountain West is 13 games above .500. The Pac-10 is 3 games below .500. I think Utah should be ranked higher than they are and if they go unbeaten and Alabama/Texas Tech/Penn State don't would have no problem with them playing for the title.
2008-11-02 22:35:33
234.   68elcamino427
If Mr. Torre wants Martin on 3B then he will get someone to catch that he has confidence in.
To lend credence to your great obsevation - Varitek has a ring - in a box.
2008-11-02 23:01:33
235.   fanerman
Boy the stove is hot already.
2008-11-02 23:03:43
236.   68elcamino427
This is fun
Fight on!
2008-11-02 23:54:07
237.   Andrew Shimmin
The problem with honking your assent to the people waving signs expressing a political view with which you agree is that you will misinterpret my honking as similar behavior, when what I really mean is that I want you to DRIVE! NOW! So, don't honk. Just smile, and think to yourself how nice it is to be so wise and politically astute. And, when I honk at you, go ahead and drive. The light changed while you were patting yourself on the back.

The more you know. . .

2008-11-03 08:22:38
238.   scareduck
237 - one thing I am grateful for (among many) is that when my company moved out of Westwood, we also left behind the Federal Building and its attendant annoyances. It routinely gets bomb threats, and protesters often (well, often enough -- twice was about all I could handle) block traffic on Wilshire and the surrounding streets.
2008-11-03 08:26:37
239.   Eric Stephen
Any one loss SEC or Big 12 team will rank ahead of them as they have no more quality opponents to beat other than maybe Cal

You are basically right; USC still needs some help to get in. There's really 3 "spots" ahead of them in my view, in no particular order:

1) Penn State (if undefeated)
2) SEC Champ (with 1 or 0 losses)
3) Big XII Champ (if from South)

If Penn State loses a game, USC will be ahead of them (I'm assuming for rooting and planning purposes that USC wins out).

The SEC right now is set up so that Alabama will play Florida for the SEC championship. My hope is for one of these two things to happen:

a) LSU beats Alabama, followed eventually by Alabama losing to Auburn (for the 7th straight year). This puts 2-loss LSU in the title game against 1-loss Florida. If LSU wins that game, USC will finish ahead of them
b) Alabama loses to either LSU or Auburn. Florida State beats Florida. If 2-loss Florida then beats Alabama, USC finishes ahead of them.

The Big XII is a little tricky. No matter what, I'm rooting for Missouri (or Kansas) to win the Dr. Pepper Big XII Championship. If Texas and either Oklahoma or Oklahoma State win out, there will be a 3-way tie in the Big XII South between Tech, Texas, and one of the Oklahoma schools. The only way USC benefits here is if the human voters decide not to reward a team that couldn't reach the title game of it's own conference. If Texas Tech is undefeated before losing in the Big XII title game, it could still end up in the BCS title game (following the path of Oklahoma and Nebraska in other years). Realistically, I need a little more chaos in the Big XII to help USC out.

2008-11-03 08:43:27
240.   mwhite06
239 Can you imagine a scenario where USC wins out and is not in a BCS game altogether? For example, if both USC and Oregon State win out, Oregon State is the Pac 10 Champion. If someone like Kansas wins the Big 12 and Florida wins the SEC whereby leaving a 1 loss Texas or Texas Tech team and 1 loss Alabama not getting an automatic bid, and Utah finishing in the top 12 getting the automatic mid-major BCS at large birth.
2008-11-03 08:45:36
241.   Eric Stephen
At this time last season, each of the top 9 in the BCS would go on to lose at least one game before bowl season, and had a cumulative record of 18-12 after November 4.
2008-11-03 08:46:11
242.   Eric Stephen
I call that the nightmare scenario. :)
2008-11-03 08:47:02
243.   mwhite06
239 Add in one other wrinkle, if Michigan State beats Penn State in the last game of the year and Michigan beats Ohio State. Therefore, Michigan State is the Big 10 champ essentially leaving Penn State and USC as one loss teams competing for the final at large birth. In this scenario, both Penn State and USC would have 1 common opponent (Oregon State) which wouldn't bode well for the Trojans. Okay, perhaps this last scenario is way to far fetched to imagine...
2008-11-03 08:53:12
244.   Eric Stephen
If Penn State and USC both have one loss, and are fighting for the same spot, I am confident USC would be the higher-ranked squad.
2008-11-03 08:54:27
245.   Eric Stephen
At this time in the 2006 season, 8 of the top 10 in the BCS would lose at least one more game, and finish a cumulative 16-11.

Bottom line, there are lot more losses to be had.

2008-11-03 09:00:43
246.   Eric Stephen
Mannn, Penn St @ Iowa better not be bumped off ABC for the Stanford vs Oregon game.

ESPN usually updates their coverage maps on Tuesday or Wednesday, so you can see which game(s) will be on in your area.

2008-11-03 09:06:28
247.   Eric Stephen
Since we are a bit weary of hot stove baseball rumors, here's a basketball rumor as the sorbet to cleanse our palette:

Iverson to the Pistons for Billups & McDyess.

2008-11-03 09:12:22
248.   Bob Timmermann
Basketball doesn't have a hot stove. It just has a space heater.
2008-11-03 09:15:36
249.   Eric Stephen
Probably the kind that violate leases, too.
2008-11-03 09:17:52
250.   D4P
Basketball used to have a microwave.
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2008-11-03 09:20:33
251.   Bob Timmermann
One of the side effects of baseball's prohibition against trading draft picks and avoidance of a salary caps is that it allows for people to come up with more outlandish trade rumors.

Then again baseball is also set up so people call in radio programs after a game suggesting that their team bunt more often which is somewhat akin to saying that a basketball team should utilize the two-handed set shot more often.

2008-11-03 10:21:18
252.   Marty
All I know is we need more underhand free throws.
2008-11-03 10:29:24
253.   Bob Hendley
183 - I refuse to recognize a world where Texas Tech is considered to be the best college football team in the land.

I hope you weren't bucking to become a member of the school's Saddle Tramps.

2008-11-03 10:34:37
254.   Jon Weisman
2008-11-03 10:46:19
255.   Eric Stephen
In the latest Ken Gurnick mailbag (, he has this statement:

...the franchise's results with multiyear contracts in the past decade is worse than abysmal.

That seemed kind of harsh, but let's look at this decade to see what we are dealing with:

1) Extended Eric Karros (3/$24). Karros put up a cumulative 94 OPS+ over the next 3 years (only Travis Lee and Kevin Young were worse NL 1B offensively)
2) Signed newly acquired Shawn Green (6/$84) one year before his FA eligibility. Had 3 great seasons in his first 4 years in LA, before a shoulder injury hampered his power. Overall, Green had a 130 OPS+ before being traded. I'd still call his signing a success.

3) Signed Darren Dreifort (5/$55). Ended up pitching only 210.2 pain-filled innings in 5 years, racking up an 87 ERA+. One of the worst FA deals in MLB history

4) Signed Hideo Nomo (2/$12.25). Two really good 16-win seasons (112 & 130 ERA+), but fell off a cliff in the 3rd (option) year (4-11, 50 ERA+) in 2004. I'd rate this signing as a sizable net positive for the club
5) Signed Kaz Ishii (4/$12.2). Very wild pitcher (5.8 BB/9 with LA), but up a 92 ERA+ in 3 seasons before being dealt to the Mets for 1B/C Jason Phillips. Bad signing.

6) Signed Jeff Kent (2/$17). Initial two years were outstanding (133 & 119 OPS+, before total rigor mortis set in defensively). 2/$20 extension was questionable given the cliff dive of 2008, but I'd rate it as a net positive.
7) Signed J.D. Drew (5/$55 with an opt out). A broken hand halved his first season in LA, but he put up a 133 OPS+ in his 1.5-season Dodger career before opting out. I'd rate the signing as a positive.
8) Signed Derek Lowe (4/$36). I remember being outraged at this signing at the time, but Lowe was an absolute bargain, putting up a 122 ERA+ over 4 solid seasons. An unqualified successful signing

9) Signed Rafael Furcal (3/$39). When healthy, he was one of the best SS in the league. However, ailments limited him to about two seasons worth of games over three years, only half of which were played while fully healthy. Still produced a 99 OPS+ over the contract with plus defense. Because of the cost, I'd rate this as a slight negative.
10) Signed Brett Tomko (2/$8.7m). Ugh. 10-18 with an 86 ERA+ over most of two seasons before being foisted upon the Padres.
11) Signed Bill Mueller (2/$9.5m). Played 32 games before getting hurt and becoming the highest-paid scout in MLB history. Ugh, again.

12) Extended Nomar Garciaparra (2/$18.5). Rode his amazing first half of 2006 to an extension. Blocked Loney for a while in 2007. Immensely popular, but his 85 OPS+ over 2007-2008 makes this deal a bust.
13) Signed Juan Pierre (5/$44m). Of the 66 players with 1000 or more PA in 2007-2008, nobody has been worse offensively than Pierre (73 OPS+): ( Pierre is an excellent baserunner though.
14) Signed Jason Schmidt (3/$47m). Schmidt and his 25.2 Dodger innings is trying to make Dreifort's contract look like a bargain.

15) Signed Hiroki Kuroda (3/$35.3). Hard to judge only one year in, but thus far has been a success (119 ERA+, plus two exciting home playoff wins).
16) signed Andruw Jones (2/$36.2). Unmitigated disaster thus far (34 OPS+, 5 singles in 58 AB with RISP). Dodgers hope to weight and see if Andruw will contribute at all in 2009.

So of the 16 signings (I might be missing a couple) this "decade" (2000-present), I would classify them like this:

Great (1): Lowe
Good (6): Green, Nomo, Kent, Drew, Furcal, Kuroda
Poor (5): Karros, Ishii, Nomar, Tomko, Mueller
Disaster (4): Dreifort, Pierre, Schmidt, Andruw

Certainly not a stellar record, but there have been enough positives to avoid the "worse than abysmal" moniker ascribed by Gurnick.

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