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In an almost unprecedented white-flag waving, 12 months and 20 days after their wedding day, the Dodgers and Andruw Jones have gotten the approval of the players' union to restructure (not reduce) the outfielder's contract, facilitating Jones' departure from the team, according to Ken Gurnick of MLB.com.
Jones will either be traded or released before the start of Spring Training and perhaps sometime this month, according to an industry source.
The agreement will allow Jones a fresh start elsewhere after a nightmare of a first season and provide the Dodgers with additional payroll flexibility that could be used to re-sign free-agent outfielder Manny Ramirez.
The Major League Baseball Players Association approved the unusual agreement because Jones will receive his entire salary, as well as the possible benefit of free agency should he be released.
Jones is owed about $21.1 million from a back-loaded two-year contract. Instead of paying that total amount this year, the agreement spreads out the Dodgers' payments for as many as six years. The amount deferred could be as much as $12 million.
With or without interest...?
Is Budinger still considered an NBA prospect?
He still probably goes in first round, but that is not saying much this year.
If a baseball team filed for bankruptcy, most likely somebody else would buy the team and its contracts.
It's not like Cal Ripken didn't get paid when the O's were in bankruptcy court.
The NHL will want to keep the Coyotes running at least through this season.
Oregon State still sucks at basketball.
The only problem was that you had to watch Malibu High play football. Not exactly a powerhouse out there.
Buncha Stan Gables, huh...?
(You didn't get that allusion, did you? Now you know how it feels...)
People from Malibu matching up against public school for the deaf and making the Malibu-ites drive from the beach to Riverside during rush hour. Oh it was fun.
One of the Malibu coaches asked the officials to tell the CSDR players to stop making "funny noises" during the game. The ref ignored him.
A city like Portland will take all the pro sports they can get. Even if it is the NHL.
But man, they sure aren't very good -- I was excited about getting to see UCLA on TV tonight but after about ten minutes I turned it off anyway.
Even though Utah beat the team that beat USC.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/02/SP1T152UFN.DTL&feed=rss.giants
Last week's Randy Johnson signing put the Giants well over the tentative payroll figure that new managing general partner William Neukom had in mind for 2009. Ramirez presumably would shoot the Giants' payroll well over $100 million. But given how weak the West is, ownership could bite the bullet if it felt Ramirez could put them over the top.
Why the Giants signing Manny makes no sense. They're spent most of their budget already on Howry, Renteria, Affledt, and Johnson. That's $25 million in this year alone, and 42 million total. They're going to spend another $20 million on Manny this year, and another 60 million all together?
2009--$22.5 mil
2010--$22.5 mil
2011--$22.5 mil
2012--$22.5 mil team option or $2.5 mil buyout
Total guaranteed money: $70 mil.
It's not cheap, but neither is Boras. He also helped us with the Jones deal (the second one), so there's that.
Boras could trumpet it as a 3y/$70 mil deal with the possibility of reaching 4y/$90 mil. That's at least in the neighborhood of what he was asking initially.
I feel like many here will think this is too high [Why give that 3rd guaranteed year?], but I don't see us lucking into a cheap deal here.
It wasn't like he was demolishing off-speed pitching.
Ivan DeJesus Jr. hit his 5th homerun of the the PWL season on Dec. 30th.
I understand Scratchy has better strike zone discipline.
The HS football team is undermanned, sorry to say. That said, its still a good experience for the participants.
Eddy D. Field Stadium (Pepperdine's baseball field) is about the best place outside of Dodger Stadium to watch a baseball game. All the better with the new screen and (heh) wireless access in the stands, to go with the ocean and palm view beyond the outfield. Y'all come out and watch a couple.
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says that Manny Ramirez gets erronously maligned on defense due to the way fly balls are miscoded in some of the more popular defensive metrics, and that he is probably just a -4 runs defensively in 09.
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maybe Jones agreeing to restructure is contingent on the dodgers releasing or trading him
bet it on it.
and while i like the slightly higher paying, but shorter contracts, the stink of schmidt still bothers me
This from the LA TImes
According to Olney, possibly Saint Diego:
"..the Padres have always valued him in the past because of his performances at Petco Park; if he's paid the minimum salary, it wouldn't be a stunner if San Diego offered him a chance to play."
Wouldn't that be great to see Andruw in the West..
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2009/01/january-3-1949.html
So it was simply the right to be released from his contract or traded, and not extra money for him to accept deferring the cash.
I wonder if we will see more of these types of deals in the future, since the precedent has been set. Maybe not in Jones' case, but it might make trading certain players easier.
Video killed the pugilistic star.
1. control him for 2009 only, and
2. would have to pay him zero money for 2009?
Unless I'm mistaken the team who gets him will be responsible only for the league minimum of $400k...basically free in this day and age (and weight).
The Dodgers are quite sure Jones won't recover much and/or they are sure they are doing something else in left field and are quite sure they will get Manny or Dunn.
Nothing else makes much sense. I can't Believe they would open a spot for Pierre and Jones is better defensively.
I think I mean either that
1. a new owner might not "let" Depo post the kinda information he currently does,
or
2. Depo might not bother posting if he gets fired.
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http://laist.com/2009/01/03/the_worlds_oldest_person_lives_in_l.php
Gertrude Baines is 114.
People don't hold on to this title for very long though.
Kemp and Ethier are already above average players, why would anyone "give up" on them? I'm not even sure what that means. As for the other two, they need some improvement, but Dewitt is already a fan favorite and Loney is well liked and should be accepted if he improves some this year.
Has it been 114 years since a couple named their child Gertrude?
Let's see if this graph comes out:
http://tinyurl.com/5o667o
And it's not as if Kemp, Loney, Martin, Ethier, DeWitt or the pitchers are blocking anyone who's major-league ready in the system
Barring injury, I'm expecting improvement across the board for the Jacksonville gang. That's the argument against bringing Manny back and signing a lesser light for lower dollars. If these players improve as they should, it's not clear he'll be needed as much as a pitcher to replace Lowe.
It's the Angels who've had to give up on some of their touted young players. McPherson, Kotchman, Mathis have all disappointed to varying degrees, and they were hyped almost as much as our guys. Wood is still a question mark; among position players only Kendrick and Napoli have really established themselves. That's the more typical outcome when you have some touted minor leaguers. That's how things generally worked out for the Dodgers until the last few years.
But also, even with all the players the Dodgers have produced in the last 3 years, the farm system will never be the sole provider of talent and you have to fill out roster with free agents and trades.
And finally, by now it must clear that the Dodgers are going to stick with that core of players (Martin, Ethier, Broxton, Kemp, Loney, Billingsley, DeWitt, Wade, Kershaw, etc.)
Besides, Joe Torre has more job security than Ned Coletti ever had.
I wouldn't be surprised if Miller never throws an inning for the Dodgers. Elbert and McDonald will hopefully be part of the core soon. But as for Hu, Abreu, and Dejesus, it will be hard for them to play with Furcal and Dewitt penciled in up the middle for the next few years. In the end probably only one of them will become a full time starter for the Dodgers with the others being trade bait/backups.
Lambo was the guy you were thinking of, but I'd expect him to get called up more around September 2010, not this year. This was his first full year of professional baseball.
If I was Frank McCourt, I would do the Al Davis-thing, bring Andruw into the office and tell him, "Your no longa a playah for the Los Angulus Dahjahs...That's right Andruw and your not gettin' paid either..."
Hold on to your shorts there Bob Timmerman. I know the Players Association would never stand for that, but I would get every great lawyer money could buy--take it to the Supreme Court if I had to....This "man" misrepresented himself as a major league baseball player.
With all of the people in this world right now, not knowing where their next meal is coming from; having their house foreclosed or simply being put out of a job, how can this person live with himself because he doesn't like the West Coast, nor the team HE AGREED TO PLAY FOR??? (FOR VERY SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS....)
He disgusts me.
What kind of a person spells Andruw with a "u" anyway?
Sorry for the rant, but it was my first off-season rant of the year.
There is nothing worse then a good fan scorned!
Says who? The only reason he didn't have the starting job in 2008 was a mid-season injury. Getting .273/.374/.586 out of your catcher ain't chicken feed.
Jones Doesn't Fit In Cincinnati
And there has been no established connection between is physical shape and his inabiliy to hit, he certainly was able to field his position.
I'll never understand what it was about him that got fans so quickly to go against him but I guess he will soon be a former Dodger so I won't have to bother.
Age catches up to players and it really hurts when you have bad fundamentals.
Fans got on Jones because he appeared out of shape, didn't produce, and though his smile was pretty clearly to me a defense mechanism, others interpreted it as not caring. That being said, Dodger fans getting on a player is hardly unique, as we all know. In Jones' case, nothing got better, so that's why it appeared more severe in his case - but that's really the only reason it was unusual.
If J.D. Drew had never snapped out of the slump that opened his Dodger career, it would have been the same thing. As it was, Drew hit and still a lot of fans didn't like him. So I guess I don't know why you're in the dark about Jones.
Meanwhile, as far as 140 , it's not a matter of guts that keeps the Dodgers from testing the clause. It's the understanding that there's no way the Dodgers would win the case.
>> He went hitless in five at-bats for Aguilas on Friday, lowering his batting average in the Dominican winter league to .091. <<
http://tinyurl.com/78z2tg
In this case, I would not blame the owner or management for wanting to test the boundaries of the union--and let Andruw figure it out that he's got a longer road at getting paid without play then working hard and performing for the pay that he AGREED upon.
The MLB should be ashamed of themselves for letting player's reach this level of incompetance. Andruw Jones should be no different then any other American--any human for that matter. You work, you get paid for your services. I like to think that I work hard at my job; my profession, daily because I have integrity. Obviously "Andrew" doesn't know what the word is.
If any Dodger brass should be reading this, it is reprehensible to think that you have to negotiate with someone that clearly doesn't want to work and is looking for any excuse--including playing in Dodger Blue--to redeem his lack of sincerity.
Fire him.....
Thats what employers do to people that don't want to work for the company. You shouldn't have to pay fire him either....
Well said. I am just thinking that wherever Hu, DeJesus, Abreu play, if they do well they will begin to be considered part of the core. If Furcal moves to CF to protect his back and one of the above is producing better than one of the outfielders or third basemen, they get a chance unless Joe is determined to go old.
I should clarify my stance and say I never participated in it in all the times I saw him play. I don't hold myself to be better than that,it was my choice, others chose to vocalize their thoughts.
And unless you can prove he never intended to perform his contract (and generally, the basic rule for that is showing up), its non-starter to litigate.
Did you insult him for how he spells his name?
I don't have to start Lambo's clock for him to impress enough to be considered part of the core. Not that he is ready or capable to do so, but if he hits 300/100/35/100 in AAA, he moves into core consideration.
Anyone in their right mind think going back to the Coliseum is a good idea?
Wipe out the neighborhood surrounding the Coliseum to build a real sports complex with parking and security, tear down the old Sports Arena; but why, there's Staples, so make the Clippers play there?
http://tinyurl.com/7a7utt
Sunken costs.
Change of scenery.
The Bottom line is A. Jones had undergone a semi-historic and catastrophic collapse, and I don't think bashing the guy for "not working" is productive. I doubt anyone really believes the man actually intended to perform so badly. A case could be made that his first 10 years in the league might have put him on track for the HOF, and I'm sure he wants nothing more than to have those days back. The Dodger front office, Ned especially, should be commended for coming to some alternative agreement with Andruw here and moving on, especially if the report of no interest on the buyout is true. You need to consider that the Mets will be paying Bonilla 28.8+ million (over 24 years) to buy out his 5.9 million dollar contract from 2000.
As far as the original signing goes, most people (especially me) agreed that Andruw would help the team. I don't believe any Monday morning quarterback that say Andruw's total and complete failure was inevitable (or even probable) last winter when he was signed.
I am unclear about what the Dodgers failed to see coming...
I for one didn't see Jones catastophic year comming and still struggle to understand it within the historical context of player performance. Players that good dont get that bad that young
I think one would have to be incredibly and nearly irrationally pessimistic to have predicted the year Jones had last season at the time of his signing
I thought it was a good move at the time
Further, while I have come to dislike Jones, I dont see any evidence that either he or Boras pulled anything over on anyone
I think it was the case of an out of shape proud person failing worse than they have ever failed before with resulting emotional and professional turmoil to the extent that both parties just wanted to get away from each other
Yep, it's obvious what the Lions should do. Draft Tim Tebow. The NFC championship game awaits.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/2009/01/02/ddn010209spaudible.html
http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/2007/12/dodgers-sign-andruw-jones-to-2-year.html
That is some pretty dumb analysis.
I'm curious to see who the Lions hire to be their new GM and coach.
Lowe rejects Mets offer of $36 million/3 years, he wants $16 million per year. Braves and Phillies are other suitors. Teams that either already gave up their first rounder(Phillies and Ibanez), (Mets and K-Rod) or protected.(Braves have the 7th pick.)
You mean Roy Williams.
They only gave up one first rounder and I think he was not a free agent until 2010.
Info here -- http://tinyurl.com/7far7e
If he would have blown out his knee and had as many AB's as Schmidt had IP, nobody would be saying anything. It's not his problem his employers thought it would be a great idea to have as it's 4 primary outfielders:
A guy who sucks but they didn't realize it yet
A guy who sucked the year before
A guy labeled as a "3.5" kind of outfielder
A guy who may or may not "breakout" anytime soon
Tell me how any of that is his problem. Yeah he stunk but unless you can prove it was intentional we have no recourse. Again, if he would have been injured, nobody would say anything at all about trying to not pay him.
The 2008 season was as much fault Andruw Jones fault as anyone else. He exacerbated the problem, and for anyone to claim nobody would say anything at all about trying to not pay him, isn't the point. He was, he played poorly. That's on Andruw Jones. Just as it was on Curt Shilling for signing a contract with the Red Sox for 2008, and then revealing that he needed surgery. Its on the player to perform, they know their own body as well as anyone supposedly.
Boras can fog men's minds. And so I'm thinking about this off-season. I'm in favor of LA getting Manny -- he's a uniquely gifted hitter. But what about Mark Teixiera? Has Boras concocted a myth that Teixiera is some kind of future HOF'er? He's being paid like A-Rod, but is he really in that league? Or is that just Boras fairy dust?
Seems to me that you've never truly rejected an offer until you've accepted another one.
Your union experiences are different than mine. I've never known them to be anything but a shield for lazy, unskilled people to hide behind while a handful of people actually work hard and know what they're doing.
I would love to see a scenario where "you work or you're out." Perhaps it depends upon the industry.
So with that Boras mind fog thing going on, any chance of Scott taking over Apple if Jobs passes on?
(1) In my first real, long-term job out of college (this was 1987), I worked for Hughes Aircraft on 102nd St. near LAX off Century Blvd. It was quite a dumpy little building, but large enough for our own warehouse. We had our own Teamster for the warehouse, and his job, as far as we could ascertain it, was to show up drunk each morningat 8:00 AM, nose red as W.C. Fields', and stumble home at 5:00 PM. To get anything of value done, those of us in the software staff inevitably collected ourselves at 5:10 or so and moved things around ourselves.
(2) My father was a UAW member back when he worked on the Apollo program as a member of North American Aviation (later Rockwell when they bought that company out). Mostly, he paid dues, which, once his employment ended ca. 1972, proved wholly pointless; I think he ended up getting a laurel, and hardy handshake on the way out.
Being the snowiest month ever for Fargo seems very impressive to me.
http://tinyurl.com/96rh2j
I'm not anti-union. I certainly understand how bad it was before they existed. But, like most things, the system is flawed and prone to exploitation by the worthless.
Yes, and sadly, many of those exploited workers are paying union dues.
Just because unionized workers are being exploited does not mean unions are not doing their jobs. Many of those industries are ripe with danger and inequity, that's why the workers voted to unionize. That's why those workers have any rights or protections at all.
And then of course also some actual food.
He's lucky the secret ingredient wasn't Bengal tiger, I guess.
Or Terrapin.
The iusw works hard at keeping it's workers in the best work place position(s).
http://www.iusw.org/node/1
I saw part of that yesterday. Boomer should not be judging a cooking show.
Sadly, I cannot speak to his culinary tastes.
Damn, that is pathetic.
The problem with unions is the problem with all organizations -- be they left, right, secular, religious, communist or capitalist. Whatever their mission was at the beginning, the mission devolves into self-perpetuation.
vr, Xei
In this day and age, when it comes to workers/employees, the finger HAS to be pointed at management almost every time; at least to accept the responsibility for not adhering to the signatory agreement, and/or not properly managing the job. This means that they must make sure they are getting the most bang for their buck, as per that agreement.
If an automobile worker doesn't build a car fast enough, then he can be moved from that point of the assembly line. A lot of time its bad managerial habits that create the drop in production, simply because of guidance and direction.
I am not saying that Andruw Jones didn't try. I rooted for him each and every at bat to put the ball into play.
Little did anyone know that despite his seemingly weaker skills--he chose not to report to camp in some passable shape. What I am saying is that no matter how easy the excuse, that it would be best to accept responsibilities, in this case produce for the team you signed to produce for.....or did you think that was going to get handed to you on a silver platter?
what I am saying is that for him to complain that he wants to play for an East Coast team--while being a blessing for the Dodgers to dump that contract--it is ridiculous notion to think that it will be any different for Andruw Jones anywhere else--especially coming into LA out of shape and being more a detriment to the team, rather then a compliment.
Even worse, that in today's economy that he should be so thoughtless; so arrogant on where and how he has played knowing the very people that help contribute to his salary--the fans, as losing their homes and jobs at a rate not seen since the Great Depression.
If any of us performed like that on our jobs, we wouldn't be hear typing. We would be trying to figure out how we were going to feed the family and pay the bills. Andruw Jones attitude is no different then a CEO from one of the Big Three that think that bailout money was something that they deserved; as well as the "golden parachute" that will deliver them from that burning plane falling from the sky.
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I find that strange.
But then at least I have the network.
You must live in Horsethief Canyon or The Farm.
The one negative for me was hearing people cheering for the chargers from their box seats, I am so dumbfounded as to how we as Angelenos can support a team from San Diego, LA really needs a team..
But I didn't notice all that many people cheering for the Chargers. The score was only on the board for a few seconds.
Perhaps people hate the Colts.
Besides, the Chargers are an L.A. team originally.
NY Giants
Philadelphia Eagles
Oakland Raiders
Dallas Cowboys
Chicago Bears
San Diego Chargers
It took about a decade, but I'm glad the networks finally figured out that LA fans really didn't want to see the Raiders at every opportunity, that all the Raider BS about "Commitment to Excellence" and "Just Win Baby" were the delusions of a sick old man that only served remind folks in LA about the ugly, creepy side of professional sports.
The Chargers have become the semi-de-facto home team for NFL broadcasts and that seems about right.
220 Pretty sure he took Arizona +1.5, but I could be wrong, and too shell-shocked to check.
It's tough to get good managerial decision-making for $4 million/year these days.
I was involved in ownership of one of the Western League clubs. The team was gone by the time Mazone first left affiliated ball, but I had a number of friendships in the league that continued until the league folded. So we could have mutual acquaintances.
"He's fat," said another.
Here's what I remember reading:
1) Dodgers reitterate that Manny is their #1 priority.
2) Boras, having read that, contacts the Dodgers via voice-mail.
3) Dodgers Colletti returns Boras voice-mail with a voice-mail of his own, but both plan to speak to each other regarding Manny shortly, most likley after the New Years Holiday.
So, that much I remember reading.
Since then, all I have read is the multiple reports of the Giants pursuing Manny with all kinds of offers from 2 years to 4 years guaranteed.
Now, I have to assume that Boras and Colletti have spoken since we have had this whole restructuring of the Jones contract.
So what ever happened to the discussions about Manny? If places like MLBtraderumors.com can go to great lengths reporting they planned to speak to each other, wouldn't there be at least 1 wild rumor of some type of new offer?
Or again, have I simply missed something?
Of course, I'm hoping that your plea for a wild rumor is at least somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
Now I realize that the Giants and Boras didn't need it to be reported that they would discuss Manny, and in some of the rumors it was stated that in fact no discussions had taken place.
It just seems rather odd that it was widely reported that Colletti and Boras were meeting soon to discuss Manny, and the only thing we have read since in the way of rumors is Manny to the Giants.
My plea for a wild rumor was nothing more then a plea for any rumor, since the sides had asummingly begun talking again.
And yes, you are correct that every conversation doesn't necessarily have to lead to a new offer. But one would think that with the two sides talking, the one thing you wouldn't read, is new offers made from "other" teams.
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For example, the rumor that the Yankees were on the verge of signing Tex, or even Burnett and Sabbathia. The rumor that the Dodgers were working on restructuring Jones contract?
Sometimes these rumors are early reports of what is to come. No?
Derek Lowe is a Boras client.
Ultimately, even with the rumors that do come true, what does that even mean? Because so many rumors aren't trustworthy, even the rumors that turn out to be true aren't really useful, because why should we believe them?
99 percent of the Texeira rumoring left out the Yankees. Finally, the right rumor came - mere hours before the actual news was confirmed. Does that constitute an "early report of what is to come?" How was paying attention to the rumors useful?
I've never told anyone not to have fun with the rumors. But when they start agonizing over them, investing them with actual meaning, it really just hits me wrong. The rumormill is like a person who is a chronic liar. The occasional truth that comes out doesn't change that.
http://www.whittierdailynews.com/sports/ci_11364010
I'm a J-Mac fan, but talk about overrating a guy based on a small sample size.
My dad grew up in Kansas City cheering for the Royals until he moved out to LA in 1972. He started cheering for the Dodgers (since they were NL) after he moved out here and raised me and my brother as Dodger fans. Recently, though, he moved down to San Diego after he retired and started working for the Padres. Now he wears Padres gear all the time and says, "we," when referring to them, but he still cheered for the Dodgers during the playoffs. I called him out on it over Christmas and he said it was OK since the Dodgers weren't his childhood team. I am pretty sure that he's the worst sports fan ever. Thoughts?
Also, who compares Drew Doughty to Chris Pronger?
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Oliver Perez is another Boras client.
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Jon, you fail to understand how much pleasure a masochist such as myself derives from agonizing over wild rumors during Hot Stove season. It's what I live for.
James Macdonald was consistently around 91-92 during our playoff run (he was very well rested) from what I've seen & read about him he's more 87-88 mph IF he were to maintain the 91-92 mph the ENTIRE season then I'd believe the hype (he seems like he knows what he's doing when he is pitching IMO) veremos.
Yes, the answer is in the comments on The Griddle.
Rafael Furcal 4-for-6, 2B, R, RBI
Andruw Jones 0-for-5, K
Hector Luna 1-for-5, solo HR
Claudio Vargas 2.1 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2K
So far so good, especially the first two, on off-season transactions.
And, I don't agonize over the rumors. I enjoy reading them. Do I beleive them to be truthful? Not entirely. I understand that some are, some are not. But they are enjoyable.
And I did expect to read something by now that the Dodgers either made, were in the process of making an offer, or were no longer interested in meeting Boras' demands.
As for the Tex rumors. How do we know that only the Yankee one was the true one? For all we know all the other rumors were true also, and as reported, they (the other teams) pulled out when Boras asked for more, and the other teams realized they would not be able to compete with the Yankees offer? Point being, just because a rumor does not pan out, doesn't mean it wasn't true or close to being true at the time it is reported.
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/dodgers_signed_jones/
Most of the newspapers in the D.R. have websites with updates. I just go to Google News, enter "beisbol" and start poking around.
I'm just assuming you can read Spanish. Or else you have just perpetrated the greatest fraud of all time on all of us. ;-)
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I think I remember him from a game the Dodgers played up there. Vinnie seemed impressed...
I think he'd find a home at first or catcher.
"...Manny to the Giants..." THAT's a rumor!
Huh? No rumors are trustworthy. But they're fun! And they increase anxiety.
Oh, and my condolences to you Jacob. :-( You can join me on the Chargers-on-the-obelisk bandwagon.
Headline:
"Gregg Zaun Interested In Boston"
Wake me when it's March.
"Teenager looks through father's LPs, interested in Boston."
My uncle is kind of similar, he grew up a Rams and Angels fan, moved to San Diego a few years back and started rooting for the Chargers and Padres, now he lives in Vegas and roots for UNLV (he went to Cal State Fullerton). I think some people just like the attachment to the local teams, and I see nothing wrong with it, really.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2009/01/04/the_most_improved_players/?page=5
Also, looks like the Patriots are going to franchise Cassell, meaning he's going to make about 14m, not bad for a guy who hadn't started a game since high school until this year.
Boston seems to be unimpressed with the Dodger ability to judge when a player is done.
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Vlady is unique in his ability to hit a bad pitch hard. He walks at a decent clip with over 50 walks every year since he was 22. That career .389 OBP is sixty six points higher then his .323 career average. Luckily Sandoval is only going to be a 1st baseman and probably a bad defensive one at that given his body proportion.
Boston seems to be unimpressed with the Dodger ability to judge when a player is done.
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Vlady is unique in his ability to hit a bad pitch hard. He walks at a decent clip with over 50 walks every year since he was 22. That career .389 OBP is sixty six points higher then his .323 career average. Luckily Sandoval is only going to be a 1st baseman and probably a bad defensive one at that given his body proportion.
Last year, I think most UCLA fans pronounced Dragovic's surname as something that would be a Rule 1 violation.
You got Matts on the brain. Aaron Corp.
trainwreck and I know how to spell the names of USC's quarterbacks, yet we have suppressed the names of current UCLA quarterbacks through a combination of intense psychotherapy and the use of sensory deprivation tanks.
You forgot "Throws it away!" and "Dropped" and "That'll be intentional grounding."
I have nothing to say, but I'm not letting Bluebleeder get a Rennie Stennet.
Played with eight players for most of the game , missing Baron, Randolf, Kamen, R Davis, Taylor, Hart, and Fred Jones. They suited 9 but lost Fred Jones two minutes into the game.
20 year old Eric Gordon became a man today as he took it to the Pistons time after time in crunch time. 12 for 12 from the line. Marcus Camby won't get much support because he plays on such a crappy team but he's an all-star and gives the effort every night that we had hoped to see from Baron.
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