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Got MLK?
2009-01-19 09:17
by Jon Weisman

The strength of others amazes and spoils me.

And, I just want to add, I wouldn't mind being Pete Seeger when I grow up.

Have a wonderful day.

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Comments (240)
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2009-01-19 09:36:32
1.   Jacob Burch
I tend to read a handful of MLK's speeches and The Letter from Birmingham two or three times a year and I never fail to find an incredible piece of rhetorical technique or humbling bit of philosophy. Among all my more obscure 'heroes,' MLK--easy choice or not--easily ranks very high on my list.
2009-01-19 09:36:42
2.   Bob Timmermann
Man, if I had a hammer....
2009-01-19 09:40:47
3.   delias man
This Repko announcement has ruined my holiday.
2009-01-19 09:40:50
4.   Jacob Burch
2 You'd hammer out South Bend, hammer out Cleveland?
2009-01-19 09:41:23
5.   Jacob Burch
3 Ok, I'll bite: Huh?
2009-01-19 09:44:19
6.   Bob Timmermann
South Bend = Danger
Cleveland = Warning
2009-01-19 09:46:35
7.   berkowit28
3 But this isn't a Repko announcement.
2009-01-19 09:47:48
8.   Jacob Burch
6 I wanted to do a whole verse, but blanked equating "Love between my brothers and sisters" on anything but Catcher's Interference.
2009-01-19 09:50:32
9.   underdog
MLK gave a ton of great speeches rife with memorable quotes of course, but of his less famous ones I always liked this one:

"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted."

That's me!

2009-01-19 09:52:22
10.   underdog
3 7 He's referring to this, which I posted at end of previous thread:

Okay, but where were you guys in your Repko predictions? ;-)

(From Dylan Hernandez, LA Times:)

The Dodgers avoided arbitration with outfielder Jason Repko, signing him to a one-year, $500,000 contract. The deal includes $87,500 in incentives based on plate appearances.

Repko, 28, might figure into the Dodgers' plans if they fail to re-sign Manny Ramirez.


That last line made me laugh. Or cry.

{I don't see how this totally expected announcement would ruin anyone's day, since he was guaranteed to accept and is not guaranteed to make the team, and so on. Signing him and not signing Manny is a bit sad, though, if that's ultimately what happens.}

2009-01-19 09:53:29
11.   underdog
Jon has a separate post about Repko below this one now, if anyone else feels inspired.
2009-01-19 09:55:53
12.   Jacob Burch
11 The day ruined part was the bit I was Huh-ing. For the first time in a week, I have adequately read comments and posts before commenting. Take that, morning!
2009-01-19 10:00:17
13.   underdog
12 - It's going to take a lot more than that to ruin this week for me! :-)
2009-01-19 10:03:02
14.   madmac
is today the 30 yr anniversary of Bob's hatred for ND
2009-01-19 10:04:15
15.   Bob Timmermann
35th anniversary.
2009-01-19 10:07:59
16.   madmac
sorry, I'm a bit under the weather today. In honor of this special day I will bring my hatred toward ND up a notch, just for Bob.
2009-01-19 10:08:58
17.   delias man
Although I am sure he will not make the team, It kills me that he still get a spot on the 40 man when others have been released over the last couple years.

Of course there are different circumstances for similar outfielders being released (Ross numbers game, Werth injury)but I really think the Dodgers have seen enough of him to move on. I sure have.

2009-01-19 10:10:06
18.   D4P
What's the connection between MLK (day) and ND...?
2009-01-19 10:14:19
19.   Eric Stephen
Well, you can rest assured since Repko will be out of options in 2010 so he'll most likely be gone after this year.
2009-01-19 10:15:10
20.   Eric Stephen
I'll say this: I don't care what the Repko PA incentives are; if he hits any of them the Dodgers are in trouble.
2009-01-19 10:15:19
21.   Jacob Burch
17 Him signing a contract 100k over the league minimum doesn't really change anything since the non-tender day. I can't think of someone worth protecting on the 40 man that desperately. So, I'm still a little befuddled.
2009-01-19 10:15:53
22.   Jacob Burch
20 But your projection will be closer! You're in win/win territory here.
2009-01-19 10:15:57
23.   Eric Stephen
2009-01-19 10:16:39
24.   Eric Stephen
Good point. Accentuate the positive!
2009-01-19 10:16:46
25.   Jacob Burch
2009-01-19 10:17:28
26.   Bob Timmermann

Why couldn't it have been USC that ended the streak? Or Oregon? Or Washington State? Somebody like that.

No, it had to be the man whose grave I most greatly desire to dance on.

2009-01-19 10:17:39
27.   madmac
none that I know of. It is sad though that something as icky as ND shares a day meant to honor someone so great as MLK
2009-01-19 10:18:52
28.   Eric Stephen
Man, those clover leaf ND uniforms are incredibly weak.
2009-01-19 10:19:17
29.   D4P
23 and 25
Hard to believe that Converse All-Stars were actually worn for physical activity, and by professionals no less.
2009-01-19 10:20:08
30.   Eric Stephen
Seriously. There are dress shoes that provide more heel support these days.
2009-01-19 10:20:39
31.   D4P
PS: I was born in January of 1974.

Aye, 'twas a good month.

2009-01-19 10:22:09
32.   Marty
My hatred of Notre Dame started 11/28/64. My team won the game and I still hated them.
2009-01-19 10:24:58
33.   underdog
I pictured D4P as older for some reason. You're a young curmudgeon! ;-)

January is definitely a good month to be born, aye.


I like how there are already 10 comments under the Jason Repko blog brief on MLBTR. Must be due to the holiday.

2009-01-19 10:25:04
34.   madmac
31 happy birthday, whatever the actual date
2009-01-19 10:26:06
35.   madmac
33 you too udog
2009-01-19 10:27:15
36.   Eric Stephen
The Craig Fertig game?
2009-01-19 10:29:07
37.   D4P
Thank you.

You're a young curmudgeon!

35 is the new 70.

2009-01-19 10:35:59
38.   Franklin Stubbs
Peet Seeger did an amazing job. Started off a bit rough but it was inspiring through and through. People in their 80s who still bring it (like Peet, Vin, Chick) are incredible
2009-01-19 10:41:24
39.   Marty
36 Yes. Rod Sherman had a hand in it too. As did Mike Garrett.
2009-01-19 10:43:45
40.   MC Safety
The age of D4P has always been one of DT's great mysteries, imo.

On a completely unrelated note, you know it's going to be a lovely day when you wake up to "Shine" by Slowdive.

2009-01-19 10:45:59
41.   Eric Stephen
Just saw the Lonnie Smith deke again on MLB Network. What a great fake by Knoblauch.
2009-01-19 10:46:50
42.   El Lay Dave
28 I believe they call those "shamrocks".

33 About six years ago a co-worker called me "the world's youngest curmudgeon". I was about 42 at the time, and I think I've mellowed a little, so I'll happily not challenge D4P for that title.

2009-01-19 10:49:11
43.   Marty
I wish I could remember 35.
2009-01-19 10:50:48
44.   underdog
When I was thirty-five
It was a very good year
It was a very good year for blue-blooded girls
Of independent means
We'd ride in limousines
Their chauffeurs would drive
When I was thirty-five.

{Hm, never realized how odd the lyrics are for that section of the song.}

2009-01-19 10:56:32
45.   Bluebleeder87
25 29

seriously man...

2009-01-19 10:59:51
46.   Linkmeister
44 I think the songwriter had just seen "The Philadelphia Story" or something similar. It's too early for "American Gigolo."
2009-01-19 11:08:08
47.   Icaros
If D4P was the answer to a Final Jeopardy question, I would not be able to use Cliff Clavin's question.
2009-01-19 11:14:47
48.   El Lay Dave
44 What I never realized is how the lyrics go from thirty-five right to "Now the days are short, I'm in the autumn of the year". Yeesh!
2009-01-19 11:18:52
49.   underdog
48 - Yeah, I was trying to pretend that part didn't exist. Yeesh, indeed.

Of course, if you drink + smoke heavily (not that Frankie did or anything, cough), maybe that's how it seems?

2009-01-19 11:21:33
50.   Icaros

Wait a minute, you've met him in person. Why were you still picturing him as an old man?

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2009-01-19 11:21:52
51.   underdog
Weird, just saw this online:
Former Broncos QBs coach Jeremy Bates is reportedly headed to USC to take a position on Pete Carroll's staff.

Bates was basically redundant, and out of a job, when they hired McDaniel, but was interviewing for OC positions in the NFL. He (smartly, probably) would rather coach for USC than the Lions.

2009-01-19 11:23:19
52.   underdog
50 Hah hah. That's a good point. How soon we forget. Okay, never mind. :-P

I figured you were about my age, D, and basically I was right, though I'm slightly older. But I make up for it with my occasional immaturity. I mean, youthful exuberance!

2009-01-19 11:24:07
53.   underdog
Sigh, guess I should get back to work. Maybe if I'm productive I can leave early. Stop distracting me, people!
2009-01-19 11:25:09
54.   Tripon
Perhaps D4P ages in dog years.
2009-01-19 11:26:28
55.   Tripon
Top Chef's Tom saved life at one of the inaugural dinners.
2009-01-19 11:30:51
56.   Tripon
It would be funny if Andruw Jones costs Cody Ross a starting spot with the Marlins.
2009-01-19 12:02:47
57.   underdog
Danny McBride, of Tropic Thunder and Foot Fist Way, is in a new HBO series about an egotistical baseball player. Looks quite funny.

2009-01-19 12:14:30
58.   Eric Stephen
He was one of the few bright spots of Pineapple Express.

In that HBO link, McBride looks like a cross between Rod Beck and Jeff Brantley.

2009-01-19 12:19:39
59.   preacherroe
King Day recommended dvd: "Voices of Civil Rights" made by the History Channel. It is filmed in 2004 and very moving oral history of those who suffered the indignities of segregation. Makes me think of Jackie Robinson's courage.
2009-01-19 12:19:59
60.   oshea2002
51 - a great recovery for us after the Carl Smith fiasco.
2009-01-19 12:23:36
61.   Lexinthedena
Pete Seeger's greatest contribution. He was the only guy who consistently put these people on T.V. I am eternally grateful for film like this.

2009-01-19 12:27:02
62.   MC Safety
For D4P:

Giorgio Armani on Manchester City's 100 million dollar bid for Brazilian star Kaka:

"But I don't know, this kind of money for such a young lad, I would rather have him grow up with the head of a normal human being...

"The whole system is wrong...

"It cannot be that a researcher earns 1500 euros a month and actors, footballers, are paid a ridiculous sum."

2009-01-19 12:27:50
63.   John Hale
Dare I ask what the Carl Smith fiasco was? I was just reminded that he is from my neck of the woods by my fellow bruin alum mother.
2009-01-19 12:34:22
64.   D4P
actors, footballers, are paid a ridiculous sum

Not to mention fashion designers...

2009-01-19 12:34:24
65.   Eric Stephen
Smith was hired on January 7 to take over for Steve Sarkisian as QB coach and to call plays.

Then, after Eric Mangini was hired by the Browns, he inerviewed Smith for a position on his staff. It's not official yet but it could be announced any day.

2009-01-19 12:37:24
66.   MC Safety
61 Heh. Is that Donovan in the middle?
2009-01-19 12:37:57
67.   MC Safety
64 I thought that was the funniest part.
2009-01-19 12:38:58
68.   underdog
Ken Rosenthal (FWIW):

>>With or without Manny Ramirez, the Dodgers are in an unusually flexible position. Their payroll is in the low $70 million range, according to internal projections, even when including the yet-to-be-determined salaries of the team's four arbitration-eligible players — pitcher Jonathon Broxton, catcher Russell Martin and outfielders Andre Ethier and Jason Repko.

The signing of Ramirez would add between $20 million and $25 million. The team also is mining free agency for another starting pitcher and reliever, which could cost about $10 million.

Even then, the Dodgers would be below their final 2008 payroll of $126 million — a figure that did not include Ramirez, third baseman Casey Blake and pitcher Greg Maddux, whose previous teams paid almost all of their salaries.<<;-Dodgers-primed-to-pounce

2009-01-19 12:40:56
69.   John Hale
Thanks. I thought he was just hired and couldn't figure out he had created a fiasco.
Seems odd for Smith to make that move?
2009-01-19 12:41:44
70.   Lexinthedena
66 I believe it is.

64 67 It is when I read comments like his that I pine for the days that "Ironic" wasn't such an overused word.

2009-01-19 12:42:08
71.   trainwreck
USC's staff seems giant.
2009-01-19 12:42:57
72.   Eric Stephen
Their payroll is in the low $70 million range

Either Rosenthal or the Dodgers internal projectionist doesn't read True Blue LA. :)

I'm pretty comfortable saying the Dodger payroll is no less than $75 million, and most likely closer to $80 million, including projected arbitration raises.

2009-01-19 12:50:47
73.   trainwreck
Thank you, my fellow Americans, for letting me lose all my faith in you once again as "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" becomes the highest-grossing film on MLK weekend ever.
2009-01-19 12:51:14
74.   oshea2002
Smith apparently may be coaching with his son in Cleveland. Either way, not exactly a move of high integrity to take one job and then quit 2 weeks later. Smith wasn't getting any NFL love, so it looks like he used SC to get his name back in the news. Carroll is apparently furious. That said, I'm not willing to give PC a pass on the Sanchez presser b/c of the Smith news, which had also happened the day he got back from Hawaii.
2009-01-19 12:51:56
75.   MC Safety
70 Serious. What a tosser that Armani is.
2009-01-19 12:52:45
76.   Bob Hendley
2 - Man, if I had a hammer....

You might actually be disarming. As I recall, you do your best work with a bag full.

2009-01-19 12:55:22
77.   MC Safety
73 I lost all faith in Americans the minute Grunge became more successful/popular than Shoegaze.
2009-01-19 12:55:59
78.   tjdub
73 Um, you're welcome? I'm sorry? My kids are 8 and 10 and we had to choose between that and Hotel for Dogs. Not a lot of kid choices out there right now I'm afraid.
2009-01-19 12:56:57
79.   underdog
73 Looking at the top grossing movies every week, not just this one, is a recipe for despair.
2009-01-19 13:00:07
80.   underdog
78 - What, My Bloody Valentine 3-D wasn't a choice? ;-)

Yah, pickings are slim for the kids n' family set right now, in theaters. I might have chosen the Dogs one if I were in your shoes, if only because I know the dogs will be cute, and not sure Kevin James ever is. But that's just me. More choices on DVD (I recommend City of Ember for family viewing.)

2009-01-19 13:00:19
81.   trainwreck
If you took your kids than you do not fall under my wrath.

Which will be mighty!

2009-01-19 13:01:59
82.   trainwreck
Another reason why I should not be a parent.

I would have taken my kids to the Wrestler, trying to convince them that it is all about wrestling and nothing else.

2009-01-19 13:03:54
83.   tjdub
80 My 8 year old daughter LOVES City of Ember and is begging me to pick it up on DVD tomorrow. She saw it three times in the theater and is now determined to read the whole book (she's two chapters in). That is what I call a successful movie excursion. Much better than coming out of the theater and having the kids ask for the associated video game.
2009-01-19 13:05:24
84.   D4P
"The Wrestler" and "I've Loved You So Long" have been "Coming Soon" to my local arts theatre since early December.

I'm getting tired of waiting.

2009-01-19 13:06:20
85.   trainwreck
And Michael Philipp chooses Oregon State.

Neuheisel is starting to lose his buzz.

2009-01-19 13:06:37
86.   Jacob Burch
Per UD's recommendation, I may go try to see "Let the Right One In" this week. Saving Milk, Frost/Nixon and a few more for pre-Oscar parties with friends.
2009-01-19 13:06:42
87.   Sam DC
55 Um, wow.

Did he spot an improperly cleaned pufferfish or something, or notice the wrong kind of mushroom in an inaugural tart?

He does look like he could pull off a heimlich if he needed to.

2009-01-19 13:07:04
88.   Lexinthedena
Since my child is too young to go the movies, I am not faced with the question of do I take them to trash or not. I don't think kids should be over censored, but of course there is a limit.

I am after all the kid who pulled off this incredible trifecta of walking in on the worst possible scene..

drum roll...

1- Micheal Madsen's ear scene from Reservoir Dogs.
1- Private Pile off's himself and Staff Sgt. Hartman in Full Metal Jacket.
3- Willem DaFoe doing unspeakable things in Wild at Heart.

They should have made sure I was asleep before popping in the video.

2009-01-19 13:07:25
89.   oshea2002
85 - saw that. That is shocking. I can't believe he didn't pick Stanford or UCLA. I guess you can hope for a miracle with XSF.
2009-01-19 13:10:04
90.   Lexinthedena
My mother and brother in law saw A Waltz With Bashir at the Palm Springs Film Festival over the weekend, and said it was beyond amazing.

Also, The Garden, a documentary about the South Central Farm was supposed to be...and rumor is that I have been spotted in it:)

2009-01-19 13:10:30
91.   trainwreck
It's like Al Davis is in charge of our recruiting.

Forget the lines, we need more defensive backs!!

2009-01-19 13:11:07
92.   fanerman
77 Slowdive really got shoegaze on the mind, eh?
2009-01-19 13:14:01
93.   Jacob Burch
90 Waltz with Bashir is another on my pre-Oscar list. And on DVD, Man on Wire.
2009-01-19 13:14:30
94.   D4P
A Waltz With Bashir

That's "coming soon" too.

2009-01-19 13:17:17
95.   oshea2002
91 - fortunately next year is a good year for OL.
2009-01-19 13:17:35
96.   Marty
I finally saw In Bruges the other day. I liked it.
2009-01-19 13:17:42
97.   MC Safety
92 Indeed.
2009-01-19 13:21:19
98.   MC Safety
I saw Notorious last night. Wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
2009-01-19 13:22:16
99.   underdog
86 93 Cool. Can't go wrong with seeing any of those films. Waltz With Bashir is fantastic, too.

83 Great! I was telling someone with a kid about the same age that "City of Ember" is like "Brazil, lite/jr." Not perfect but very appealing and intriguing, good cast.

2009-01-19 13:22:59
100.   Marty
I think Notorious is a great movie. Claude Rains' mother is the inspiration for Frau Blucher in Young Frankenstein.
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2009-01-19 13:23:23
101.   Xeifrank
The Hollywood movie making machine is pretty sad if this is the best they can put out. I gave up them 15 years ago. I'd say once every 3 or so years Hollywood puts out a very good movie. Of course, I may have higher standards and or differing views of what's a good/mediocre/bad movie than some people. For the most part, the best movies are not made by Hollywood. Hollywood though is a business and if the public is eating up movies like "Mall Cop", then I'm not really sure how to spread the blame between Hollowwood and the general movie viewing public.
vr, Xei
2009-01-19 13:25:09
102.   MC Safety
100 Lol. Not that Notorious. The life story of Notorious B.I.G.
2009-01-19 13:26:09
103.   Marty
102 I feel so....out of touch.
2009-01-19 13:28:39
104.   underdog
The new one would be more interesting if Ingrid Bergman were in it, that's for sure.

101 Keep in mind that January is notoriously (sorry) and traditionally the dumping ground for the worst films of the year. It is post-Oscar eligibility time, so a lot of films get dumped out now when no one cares. Of course some of those Oscar-baiting films are rolled out slowly so in many places they arrive this month, too, giving people at least some good films to choose from separate from the drek. Anyway, it's true that Hollywood puts out a lot of embarrassing garbage, but wouldn't judge it completely based on this month's releases. Plus, look how interesting 2007's films were, how eclectic the Oscar nominees were...

2009-01-19 13:29:50
105.   KG16
62 , 64 - sigh. anyone can be a researcher, which is why the wages/salary are so low. Not everyone can be a world class athlete. There are many more research jobs than there are professional sports jobs, which also explains the difference in pay. Also, being a world class athlete also means losing your anonymity - as the Beatles once explained, when you're famous there are certain things you can't do, like riding on a bus. Compensation for that is probably warranted. The system is not broke, at least not in this sense.

[sorry, I'm not in the best of moods today; otherwise I probably would have let it go]

2009-01-19 13:30:02
106.   MC Safety
103 Lol. You must have missed out on Hitchcock Thoughts last week.
2009-01-19 13:32:51
107.   underdog
Oh, and TJ, definitely take your daughter to Inkheart!

Comes out this coming weekend.

2009-01-19 13:34:53
108.   El Lay Dave
96 We saw that a couple months ago and thought it was hilarious.

102 I thought it was odd that they didn't title that movie "Notorious B.I.G.". But maybe marketing folks know better than I do.

We saw "Benjamin Button" this weekend. Is it a good thing or a bad thing that we immediately started making comparisons to Forrest Gump?

2009-01-19 13:35:55
109.   oshea2002
I really liked Ben Button, but most others I've talked to found it too long and didn't get the point/metaphor of the Hurricane scenes.
2009-01-19 13:36:16
110.   Lexinthedena
Speaking of LoL's and Hitchcock, I watched High Anxiety on the T.V of my Marriot hotel room, while laid up with the flu in Monterey last week.
2009-01-19 13:37:17
111.   Lexinthedena
108 Don't get me started on Forrest Gump.
2009-01-19 13:43:11
112.   Jon Weisman
108 - I've heard that comparison several times, but for what it's worth, I liked Button and didn't like Gump.
2009-01-19 13:44:13
113.   MC Safety
iTunes weirds me out sometimes. Out of 6000 something songs one of the 7 Biggie songs I have on this computer comes on literally seconds after posting 102 .

Had the song been "Dead Wrong" I would have started some sort of investigation.

2009-01-19 13:48:42
114.   Lexinthedena
113 Gimme the loot, gimme the loot!
2009-01-19 14:04:15
115.   Jim Hitchcock
Wow, Donovan McNabb just changed his name to Donovan Dagnabbit.
2009-01-19 14:08:53
116.   KG16
my folks saw Button over the weekend, my dad declared it his new favorite film ever. Previous top spot holders included One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I have been meaning to see it, but will probably wait for the dvd/bluray.
2009-01-19 14:09:13
117.   El Lay Dave
112 I liked (a lot of) the acting in Button, and the general look and feel (cinematography, costuming, etc.), but since I was perceiving the whole thing as a fable, I found myself a bit underwhelmed by the moral of the story. Or maybe I just missed the point entirely.
2009-01-19 14:10:40
118.   Jon Weisman
117 - Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
2009-01-19 14:13:22
119.   Lexinthedena
I am upset at the lack of attention the Wrestler is getting. I know it has gotten good reviews, but it seems to me that it is being a bit marginalized due to the fact that is is about a pro-wrestler. Easy to write off as kitsch.
2009-01-19 14:17:13
120.   underdog
119 - Underdog picked it as one of his 5 best films of the year! That is hardly a lack of attention! ;-)
2009-01-19 14:20:24
121.   Jon Weisman
119 - For a non-studio film, I wouldn't say it's being marginalized. And to the extent it is, I don't think it's because it's about wrestling, since most people realize it's a very non-kitschy look at wrestling. No one's writing it off as shallow.

I think the main thing is that it's a movie that's not easy on the senses.

2009-01-19 14:22:31
122.   Eric Stephen
Discs 3-5 of Freaks and Geeks should arrive tomorrow! I will most likely go rent discs 1-2 at my local Blockbuster tonight, so I'll be able to knock that off my list soon.

I also added Foot Fist Way after looking it up after 57 .

2009-01-19 14:22:32
123.   bhsportsguy
121 FWIW, my friend was the technical advisor dancing) for Marisa Tomei in that movie.
2009-01-19 14:23:02
124.   Sam DC
bhsportsguy just gammoned me.
2009-01-19 14:23:26
125.   Jon Weisman
121 - I'd say that's worth something.
2009-01-19 14:28:13
126.   underdog
122 Nice! Enjoy the heck out of them. FFW is hilarious, but his character is hard to take, too. So it depends on your mood, but I laughed. I liked him better in the smaller role as the FX guy in Tropic Thunder. Anyway, I'm sure we'll keep you busy with queue filling ideas here.
2009-01-19 14:31:10
127.   Andrew Shimmin
Tomei's a stripper in that movie, right? Here I went and stole underdog's phone, like a sucker, when BH's is the one with the high value address book.
2009-01-19 14:43:32
128.   Lexinthedena
121 I suppose my feelings about it's being marginalized are relative, in that not everyone will think it's as good as I think it is. Of course it isn't kitschy, but because it is about Wrestling, it is not going to be viewed through the same lens contextually as a film like Slumdog. The fact that it isn't easy on the senses has nothing to do with what I'm talking about, as every year there are huge hits that are very disturbing.
2009-01-19 14:44:04
129.   berkowit28
I think Manny is likely to get signed, or given up on, in about the second week of spring training. Or - since signing will almost certainly involve his/Boras agreeing to 3 years - would the second week of the ML season be more likely, when it's clear that no team anywhere is going to fall for either 5 years, or the opening-day deadline Boras must be counting on to get a team to agree to more years?

Is there some MLB rule that says you have to hold onto a FA for so many months before you can trade him? I.e., if the Dodgers continue to play Boras' game of chicken and sign Dunn or some other batter when Manny is still holding out for 5 years during ST, then turn around and take Manny after the season starts when Boras finally agrees to 3 years, can they then trade the extra batter for more pitching/cash, etc? Would they have to wait several months, or could they do it sooner?

McCourt probably has enough cash to take on an extra batter for a short time.

2009-01-19 14:54:53
130.   bhsportsguy
I wasn't gammoned (and no this is no slight to Peter) but Sam DC just beat me in backgammon. I tried to distract by talking about certain types of consulting but it didn't work.
2009-01-19 15:01:22
131.   Jon Weisman
128 - I think, all other things (like quality) being equal, a film that is easy for children and women - and for that matter, men - to stomach will get more attention than one that isn't.

I think you could count on one hand the number of popular movies that feature someone's face getting stapled.

2009-01-19 15:01:39
132.   bhsportsguy
129 I don't think Boras would wait until the season started for a team to sign Manny. This isn't Clemens where he wants to skip spring training. Manny still wants to be a regular player and he will need some time to get ready. Plus, if he waits too long, teams will move on and the market gets smaller (as if a 1 team market isn't small enough.)

I believe, and Eric Stephen who knows the CBA well, can correct me if I am wrong, but I think you can't trade free agent signees until June or July after signing them.

Also, if there was no market to sign Manny when it didn't cost you player in the off-season, why would you trade for him and have to give up more than a draft pick.

2009-01-19 15:06:45
133.   trainwreck
Slumdog has some things that a lot of people in the theater that I saw it with, could not handle.
2009-01-19 15:08:29
134.   bhsportsguy
133 Did any characters just stand around and dribble for 12 minutes?
2009-01-19 15:08:51
135.   Lexinthedena
131 There are many, many films that were very graphic, that did just fine. It's a context thing.

Apocalypse Now, Saving Private Ryan, Pulp Fiction, Good Fellas, Alien....

2009-01-19 15:09:06
136.   Sam DC
Justice Has been Done!
2009-01-19 15:09:30
137.   D4P
I think you could count on one hand the number of popular movies that feature someone's face getting stapled

As well as the number of un popular movies.

2009-01-19 15:12:17
138.   trainwreck
We needed to do that before, just because of talent.

Not anymore.

2009-01-19 15:13:38
139.   Jon Weisman
135 - Maybe you're right. I still think that Wrestler has a much bigger darkness than Pulp Fiction, Good Fellas or Alien. But I still don't feel the film has gotten marginalized in any unusual way. It's on many top 10 lists, it's a lock to get at least one major Oscar nomination for Rourke and maybe more for Tomei and Aronofsky. For a small film, I think it's got a pretty high profile. Remove Slumdog from the equation, and I'm not sure off the top of my head what indie film is drawing more attention.
2009-01-19 15:13:49
140.   Eric Stephen
I think you could count on one hand the number of popular movies that feature someone's face getting stapled

1) UHF

2009-01-19 15:14:40
141.   Andrew Shimmin
IMDB doesn't have a stapled-in-the-face keyword. But there are several popular "stabbed in the face," movies.

2009-01-19 15:14:45
142.   Jacob Burch
135 Those movies didn't achieve success beyond what the Wrestler has until they were opened beyond the 144 theaters it's opened at.
2009-01-19 15:18:39
143.   Lexinthedena
139 I agree that it has a more profound darkness, but it's not because of the staples.

It is not that small of a film. In budget maybe, but both Rourke, and Aronofsky are pretty well known. Again, it could just be me. I think it is easily the best of the bunch, and therefore should be receiving the same treatment that Slumdog and Button are receiving.

2009-01-19 15:19:35
144.   Lexinthedena
140 Great:)
2009-01-19 15:20:46
145.   Jon Weisman
143 - Well, others agree with you, but now what you're arguing is just a matter of personal taste.
2009-01-19 15:24:04
146.   Jacob Burch
143 I just think the fault lies with distribution than people giving it attention, and that could change of Fox opens it up to more theaters. Benjamin Button is open at 15 times the amount of theaters that The Wrestler is.
2009-01-19 15:24:58
147.   El Lay Dave
"The Wrestler" is playing on three screens within forty miles of Hollywood. For as little as it is showing, isn't it getting a huge amount of attention?
2009-01-19 15:26:08
148.   Jacob Burch
147 It was #2 at the box office on a per-theater level, behind Notorious (the second)
2009-01-19 15:26:14
149.   Samhain
"It sounds like wherever Andruw lands, he's going to fall in someone's lap."
—Braves third baseman Chipper Jones (Dave O'Brien, Atlanta Journal-Constitution)

I say that if Andruw falls in someone's lap: he'll likely kill them.

Literally AND metaphorically...

2009-01-19 15:26:16
150.   Lexinthedena
145 Yes it's ultimately what I think it deserves when compared to it's peers.

146 I agree, and that could and should be said for many, many more films.

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2009-01-19 15:26:57
151.   Jon Weisman
146 - Which goes back to the budget behind the movie. Fox Searchlight isn't prepared to promote the film enough to sustain a wide release from the get-go. Thursday's Oscar nom announcement could help.
2009-01-19 15:27:02
152.   Eric Stephen
I'm watching a commercial right now for a portable Amish fireplace. The commercial features supposedly Amish men hammering nails into wood as they make the fireplaces. I'm enthralled.
2009-01-19 15:29:55
153.   fanerman
152 I've also seen newspaper ads for those Amish fireplaces.
2009-01-19 15:30:45
154.   mintxcore
140 Man! I was gonna say UHF!
2009-01-19 15:39:54
155.   Andrew Shimmin
The ad I keep seeing (and not getting) is a kid talking about how he and I (he uses the second personal; maybe I'm not the target audience, though) have a pact to not do the drugs, but that he'd done the drugs anyway. Then he says that just because he made a mistake, it doesn't mean I have to.

Are anti-drug-smoking pacts something kids actually do with each other?

2009-01-19 15:45:06
156.   dzzrtRatt
Matthew Weiner is coming back for two more years of Mad Men:

Apologies if this isn't new news to y'all.
2009-01-19 15:49:40
157.   Marty
Was Weiner looking for a 4-5 year contract? Maybe it's the start of a trend....
2009-01-19 15:58:31
158.   dzzrtRatt
157 It does seem similar to the Dodgers and Manny. Was there ever any doubt of Weiner's desire or the studio's desire to consummate a deal? It was just about agreeing on a money midpoint. It's not like he was suddenly going to start running "Grey's Anatomy." And it's not like they're going to damage the brand by putting someone else in charge of the show.
2009-01-19 16:01:55
159.   MyTummyHurts
OT: Me & Andes mint chocolates have had a love affair since I was a we lad.
2009-01-19 16:03:52
160.   silverwidow
Bobby Jenks is getting $5.6M as a 1st time arb guy. YIKES.
2009-01-19 16:09:13
161.   regfairfield
So Saito would have gotten, what, 700 million?
2009-01-19 16:23:09
162.   Eric Stephen
I wish the MLB Network would get some different people to discuss salary arbitration. Tom Verducci was just on talking about the Cole Hamels contract (3/$20.5m) and how favorably it compares to Carlos Zambrano's 3 arbitration years ($22.14m total).

However, the HUGE difference is that Hamels is a Super Two, and these are actually his 3rd through 5th seasons. The 3 years of Zambrano used for comparison were his 4-6 years. That's a huge difference.

Hamels tied Dontrelle Willis's (2006) record for a pitcher with under 3 years service time, with his $4.35m salary for 2009. He's due to earn $16.15m over his 4th & 5th year. Factor in something like a $13m contract for 2012 (Hamels' final year of arbitration) and his $29.15m will blow away Zambrano's 3 arb years.

I don't think the Phillies saved a ton of money by locking up Hamels, but that's not the point. I just wish Verducci or anyone else would properly explain the subtle differences in service time and how they affect the salaries!

I probably get way too worked up about this.

2009-01-19 16:51:48
163.   Eric Stephen
Jonathan Papelbon just ordered a bigger mattress.

Although, if the Pedroia and Youkilis deals are any indication, Paps will probably sign a much more club-friendly long-term deal sometime soon.

2009-01-19 17:04:01
164.   Bob Hendley
Jon, are you still in the t-shirt business?
2009-01-19 17:06:47
165.   D4P
Chico Harlan of the Washington Post spoke with an agent Monday who believes Adam Dunn "will get a max of $5MM per year" this offseason


2009-01-19 17:14:13
166.   Dodgers49
Diamond Leung

Dodgers sign Repko, Kent still drawing interest

>> At this point, Kent's agent is saying that while Kent has not made a decision about his plans for 2009, teams continue to express an interest in his services. <<

2009-01-19 17:15:49
167.   Bob Timmermann
He should have gone into medicine.
2009-01-19 17:17:06
168.   D4P
Or library science.
2009-01-19 17:17:37
169.   Eric Stephen
Did Chico have anything to say about the Mann(y) situation?
2009-01-19 17:22:00
170.   Tripon
Don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but Don Newcombe did an interview for the Jim Rome show, and it was repeated for the Money & Petros radio show. It should be streamed in the next day or so.
2009-01-19 17:25:37
171.   Tripon
The Marlins have reached agreement on a one-year, $3.5MM deal with third baseman Jorge Cantu, according to's Joe Frisaro.

Am I missing something about Cantu? I thought he was considered an average player at best?

2009-01-19 17:26:31
172.   Eric Stephen
Petros & Money were guest hosting for Rome today, and I caught only like the last minute or so. Newcombe sounded fired up.

I believe it was in the final hour of Rome's show. You can download each hour separately from

2009-01-19 17:28:25
173.   Tripon
172 You need to subscribe to their service.
2009-01-19 17:28:50
174.   Gen3Blue
I would be happy to see we got Dunn for 2 years.
And I can't wait to critique the Wrestler when it hits DVD or movie channels.
2009-01-19 17:31:27
175.   Eric Stephen
Good catch. I thought those links worked for free on the day of. I didn't see the interview up on the 570 site yet either; maybe they need permission from Rome/Premiere to put it up first.
2009-01-19 17:31:32
176.   KG16
171 - you know, that was my thought when I heard them drop his name in the WBC commercials. I was thinking, "Dice-K, Pujols, Jeter, Cantu. One of these is not like the others."
2009-01-19 17:31:37
177.   Tripon
And wow, The Clippers losing to the Timberwolves? Does Sterling even pay attention to his team, and the fact that the Clippers players hate playing for Dunleavy?
2009-01-19 17:33:02
178.   trainwreck
Timberwolves have been on a hot streak lately.

Kevin Love is actually starting to come on.

2009-01-19 17:33:05
179.   Tripon
176 MLB had an earlier promoting Chan Ho Park with Cantu, Jeter, and Pujols.

Chan Ho Park!?! CHAN HO PARK!? Even the Koreans know that Chan Ho Park hasn't been a star for years!

2009-01-19 17:36:44
180.   Dodgers49
New MLB rules cause maple bat flap

>> Manny Ramirez got Diablo publicity last year when MLB banned him from using a batch of the bats in Japan because of their red barrels, and Filip is convinced baseball has used other strong-arming to discourage players from using his bats. <<

2009-01-19 17:39:19
181.   Tripon
175 Money and Petros sound geeked about the interview, so I guess they're pushing for the interview to be streamed.
2009-01-19 17:40:37
182.   berkowit28
132 Not "trade for Manny". If Boras still keeps holding out for 5 years, or 4 years, even when no other teams are bidding for Manny except the Dodgers, he's daring the Dodgers to go sign another batter instead before the season begins and while there still are one or two out there. If they actually do so, rather than succumb to Boras' 4-5 year holdout, that would lower Manny's cost, and surely years , with no teams left bidding at those terms at all. Then the Dodgers, who will still have a lot of money if not quite so much, could still sign Manny as a FA for much less, a few days into the season if that's what it takes before Boras finally panics.

Then they'd want to trade away whoever they had picked up first, at something of a loss and a bargain rate, to some other team, whenever that is permitted. They could probably afford to do so, still at less net cost than taking Manny for 4 years.

It's just that Boras might not blink first unless they're prepared to go that far. If the Dodgers start panicking when, say, Dunn is signed by some other team, or is on the verge of doing so unless they ride in quickly, Boras may keep holding out for that 4 years. The Dodgers have to find some leverage, and the only real leverage I can see is leaving Manny out there to dry as long as it takes.

I suppose it's more likely that they won't pick up any other major hitter and will just start using Pierre and Repko for as long as it takes until Boras blinks. But we'll lose more games that way than picking up another FA with hopes of trading him away again later.

2009-01-19 17:43:28
183.   Eric Stephen
That seems too high for Cantu. The only thing I can think of is that the Marlins feared his shiny HR & RBI totals (29/95) would mean big dollars in arbitration.

The weird thing about that is he didn't do much at all in the two seasons prior, with 15 HR & 75 RBI combined. Although maybe they feared that could simply be chalked up to injury. Either way, a weird deal.

2009-01-19 17:50:52
184.   Tripon
183 yeah. That high of an settlement leads me to believe that both the team and Cantu offered fairly high figures. Way higher than a player like Cantu would be able to get.
2009-01-19 17:53:57
185.   popup
Bob, FYI, the Diamond Cuts cd put out by HFM has the Garrison Keillor road version of Casey at the Bat on the Turning Two CD.

Stan from Tacoma

2009-01-19 17:56:10
186.   Bob Timmermann
I actually own that CD!
2009-01-19 18:02:32
187.   Tripon
184 I should say, 'should' and not would.
2009-01-19 18:18:23
188.   Eric Stephen
Any fans of the show Intervention out there?

What I wonder is if the participants on the show are ever prosecuted for what seems like an awful lot of crimes committed on camera. Just now, a meth addict had her boyfriend blow into the breathalizer on her car so she could start it and drive off. There are lots of things like this, coupled with the drug use, that make it seem jail time should be inevitable for some of these people.

2009-01-19 18:21:19
189.   trainwreck
Doubt it.

BTW, Allison, the dustoff huffer, is by far the best episode of that show.

2009-01-19 18:22:47
190.   still bevens
189 There's a tragic yet hilarious youtube remix of her episode out there.
2009-01-19 18:23:24
191.   Eric Stephen
My favorite is the rageaholic crack addict who wanted to fight his own dad (who looked like an older Mark McGwire) because he couldn't find his crack pipe.
2009-01-19 18:23:51
192.   trainwreck
Yes, there is.
2009-01-19 18:27:34
193.   Eric Stephen
OK, I had never seen that before. Amazing.

I'm convinced You Tube exists for moments like these.

2009-01-19 18:36:28
194.   Dodger Jack
I guess that the Manny saga will keep us riveted right through spring training. In the meantime, I see two holes in our starting rotation. I would feel a lot better if the Dodgers would sign Sheets and give McDonald (my personal fav) and Elbert some needed time at Albuquerque. Stults, Vargas, and a might-be-healthy-but-hasn't-pitched-in-a-helluva-long-time Schmidt don't inspire my confidence. Turning Troncoso into a starter would be an interesting spring training experiment but nothing to bank on. Garland scares me; Looper creates a little less angst.

We are playing chicken with Manny but we also seem to be playing chicken with our starting rotation.

2009-01-19 18:38:05
195.   Icaros

I've seen that one!

2009-01-19 18:45:56
196.   D4P
Dodgers president Jamie McCourt donated the maximum amount of $50,000 to the inauguration of (Rule 5), according to ABC.
2009-01-19 18:49:58
197.   MC Safety
189 Doesn't she sing "Walking On Sunshine" or something?
2009-01-19 18:54:58
199.   trainwreck
Yeah, she says inhaling it makes her feel like she's walking on sunshine.
2009-01-19 19:11:03
200.   jasonungar07
I totally agree DodgerJack...
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2009-01-19 19:30:35
201.   GoBears
177 I was at the Clippers-T-Puppies game. Boy, that was hard to watch.

But in Dunleavy's defense, the Clippers were playing without Baron Davis, Chris Kaman, Zach Randolph, Marcus Camby, and (FWIW) Jason Hart. The whole starting lineup other than Thornton was out.

Kevin Love is an NBA player. He passes well and rebounds pretty well. But I'll be surprised if he's ever an All-Star. Not very quick, no back-to-the-basket game, and not big enough to muscle PFs or Centers in the NBA. He'll need to float a lot and hit short jumpers, and guard 4s who aren't scorers. I can imagine a long, respectable career, but not a great one.

2009-01-19 19:33:35
202.   GoBears
201. On the other hand, his coach is Kevin McHale. No player ever got more out of limited physical ability than McHale. I hated the guy, but he was a legit Hall-of-Famer. If anyone can teach Love how to maximize his abilities, it's McHale.
2009-01-19 19:45:40
203.   Eric Stephen
Uh oh, Kobe's hand is hurt. Something in his right hand. Looks painful.
2009-01-19 19:53:08
204.   Jon Weisman
198 edited

198. Gen3Blue
Watching TCM "No way Out" with Richard Widmark screeming the N-word at Sidney Pottiere made me drag my son in to see how much things had changed in 50 years.

I still think if we got Dunn for 2 years at 12 mil/per, we could shake things up.

2009-01-19 19:55:10
205.   Zak
Everybody can relax. Kaka is staying.
2009-01-19 20:07:06
206.   Eric Stephen
We have a Machine™ sighting at Staples.
2009-01-19 20:27:03
207.   Bluebleeder87

It really is... he's had 5 years of 40+ dingers & his OBP is not to shaby either. The question for me is, what player is he comparable to?

2009-01-19 20:28:33
208.   Bob Timmermann
You didn't use the "B word" to describe Kevin Love.

It's the NBA player whose name I dare not speak.

2009-01-19 20:53:04
209.   Tripon
201 I have come to believe that the basketball system Dunleavy uses puts players at a higher degree of injury. I don't know how accurate it is, but it gives me another irrational reason to dislike Dunleavy.

Either that, or the Clippers just love acquiring injury risks.

2009-01-19 20:58:02
210.   underdog
Dodgers continue negotiations with Manny:

...but don't appear to be any closer to re-signing the All-Star outfielder.

"Just checking in," General Manager Ned Colletti said of his 15-minute phone conversation with Ramirez's agent, Scott Boras.

"We had a conversation," Boras said.

Ramirez is still looking for a four-year contract with an option for a fifth year, while the Dodgers have in mind something closer to the two-year, $45-million deal they offer him in November.<<

2009-01-19 21:00:33
211.   underdog
I know the Benjamin Button conversation is probably played out (and especially the Forrest Gump comparisons), but, I'm sorry, this is darned funny:

"The Curious Case of Forrest Gump"

2009-01-19 21:05:34
212.   KG16
This Lakers-Cavs game is one of those ones that I can't tell if it's a good game or a bad game. And will someone tell Bynum to stop touching the ball when it is over the cylinder?

Also, looks like Radmonivich has finally found his game.

2009-01-19 21:07:44
213.   Bob Timmermann
How in the world does a coach adopt an offensive system that creates more injury opportunities?
2009-01-19 21:08:27
214.   Bluebleeder87
slow baseball news day today, but I found this interesting (Diamond Lung's Dodger Blog) -> Dodgers who will not play are Andre Ethier (Mexico), Chin-lung Hu (Taiwan), Hong-Chih Kuo (Taiwan), Hiroki Kuroda (Japan), Ramon Troncoso (Dominican Republic). And just because, Andruw Jones isn't on the Netherlands roster.

You'd think he'd wanna tune-up just in case any major league team wants him for '09.

2009-01-19 21:12:33
215.   Bob Timmermann
Perhaps the Dutch don't want Andruw Jones on their team. They'd rather have some 19-year old kid who has barely played outside of Europe.

Which is kind of scary.

2009-01-19 21:15:31
216.   KG16
How can you compare LeBron James and Mike Singletary? Also, I was under the impression that it was Kobe that brought the "defensive mindset" to the Olympic team.
2009-01-19 21:19:42
217.   Eric Stephen
Maybe Lebron dropped his pants in a team meeting too.
2009-01-19 21:19:48
218.   underdog
213 But I was hoping to blame Mike Shanahan for Broncos injuries this season! Well, I guess he got the axe after all so justice is served. It's his fault they had 7 RBs go on IR.
2009-01-19 21:20:49
219.   kinbote
I saw "Gran Torino" today--liked it, but it's leaving me quickly.
2009-01-19 21:21:48
220.   Bob Timmermann
No players in any sport on the West Coast are good at defense.

After Ronnie Lott left the NFL, that was it. There have never been any good defenders on a West Coast NBA team.

Michael Cooper was a mirage.

Remember, in sports:
East = Tough
West = Finesse

I can make a chart for you to keep in your wallet to refer to.

2009-01-19 21:26:20
221.   Eric Stephen
Tonight is the night Bob and his "record 4 things at once" U-Verse gets revenge on all us Time Warnerans.

I'm recording both 24 and the two CBS comedies in the 9:00 hour, and since I can't watch something else while recording two other items, I'm forced to watch the 2nd half of the Lakers/Cavs game in...dare I say?...standard definition!

My suffering knows no end!

2009-01-19 21:28:43
222.   Bluebleeder87
Cory Wade is in the business of missing bats. From Wikipedia -> Wade played both pitcher and shortstop at Kentucky Wesleyan College. As a junior in 2004, he was 5-4 with a 2.39 ERA in 12 games (10 starts) while striking out 84 batters in 71.2 innings.

there's some more stuff there, it also looks like he made his rounds around ALL the Dodger's minor league affiliates.

2009-01-19 21:30:22
223.   Bob Timmermann
I can only record one HD channel at a time though. If you set up more than one, the system picks one to shut down if you don't do it.

But I can't think of an instance when I would want to record four things at once.

2009-01-19 21:31:30
224.   kinbote
221 Just be thankful your wife didn't submit you to the HGTV Dream Home show. Rule Something or Other.
2009-01-19 21:55:14
225.   Bluebleeder87
Looks like the Rangers are close to a deal that would bring former San Francisco Giant shortstop Omar Vizquel to the Rangers. From AOL Sports ->[the Rangers] are close to a non-roster contract with free-agent shortstop Omar Vizquel.

Vizquel will come into camp primarily as a utility infielder and backup to rookie shortstop Elvis Andrus. Vizquel is also on Venezuela's provisional roster for the World Baseball Classic.

my apologies if it was mentioned earlier.

2009-01-19 22:02:56
226.   Eric Stephen
Heck of a night for Gasol. 22 & 12, on 11-13 shooting.
2009-01-19 22:05:05
227.   Tripon
225 So who did Micheal Young piss off to lose his job to Omar Vizquel?
2009-01-19 22:06:13
228.   Eric Stephen
Elvis Andrus will be the starter, not Vizquel.
2009-01-19 22:07:17
229.   Tripon
228 Unless he's not. They're getting Vizquel as a stopgap, which implies that that the Rangers may keep Andrus in the minors for the start of the season.
2009-01-19 22:10:18
230.   Eric Stephen
Per the Dallas Morning News:

Vizquel, who will turn 42 in April, would be a candidate for a utility role on the club and give the Rangers some insurance, with 20-year-old Elvis Andrus expected to start at shortstop. Vizquel, owner of 11 Gold Glove Awards, could help mentor Andrus, who has never played above Double-A

2009-01-19 22:11:13
231.   Tripon
Sheets, having had a much better season than Penny, is apparently seeking two years and $18MM or so with a third-year option.

2009-01-19 22:12:33
232.   Tripon
230 Still, its odd seeing the Rangers try to rush a 20 year old shortstop who isn't ready offensively. What is the harm of him trying Triple-A pitching?
2009-01-19 22:44:30
233.   trainwreck
Now Keenan Graham may de-commit from UCLA.

This is unreal.

2009-01-19 22:48:34
234.   Tripon
233 Slick Rick ani't so slick anymore?
2009-01-19 23:13:31
235.   LogikReader

That was hilarious. :-) Still doesn't explain USC this year. They locked down almost everybody!

2009-01-19 23:21:23
236.   Eric Stephen
Does anyone else read the text that comes on screen after the credits at the end of Chuck Lorre shows? Sometimes, like tonight on The Big Bang Theory, they are pretty funny.
2009-01-19 23:41:53
237.   LogikReader

Here you go fellas.

The official Chuck Lorre Vanity Card archive, I think tonight's shows are up.

2009-01-19 23:45:26
238.   Bob Timmermann

USC only had a good defense because they played in a weak conference.

These guidelines are in place to help you understand how sports are set up. It's a service of East Coast sportswriters and ESPN.

2009-01-20 05:04:34
239.   D4P
I guess ESPN missed the USC-Oregon game.

But then, I guess Oregon was only a high-scoring team because they played in a weak conference.

2009-01-20 06:43:17
240.   silverwidow
230 I bet the Rangers pull a Longoria and option him to start the season.
2009-01-20 09:18:35
241.   Eric Stephen
Yeah, I guess that could happen. There are a couple key dates to consider. This offseason, Jered Weaver had the fewest days of service time (2 yrs, 129 days) among Super Twos. Shaun Marcum was just one day short and didn't qualify.

With the schedule running to October 4 this year, if the Rangers call up Andrus on June 1 he will accumulate 126 days of service time. So just to be sure, maybe they wait until June 10 or so.

Here's something I found interesting about Longoria. A full season of service time is 172 days. Longoria was called up on April 11 last season, so by my unofficial count he accumulated 171 days of service time. Under normal circumstances, that might have looked like a planned move by TB to get one extra year before free agency, albeit one subject to arbitration.

However, since he signed a long-term contract after only one week in the bigs that could take him through 3 (or 2) free agent years, perhaps it wasn't so devious after all. :)

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