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The Dodgers sent out a press release informing us that Jeff Kent will announce his retirement from baseball Thursday at 11:30 a.m. at Dodger Stadium. Kent signed his first professional contract 20 years ago this June, and played in 2,298 major-league games, setting the record for home runs by a second baseman and slugging .500 in his career.
As I wrote last summer, despite joining the team at age 37, Kent in the final four years of his career became the greatest-hitting second baseman in Los Angeles Dodger history.
In his first three seasons in Los Angeles, Kent produced EQAs, adjusted for era, of .305, .295 and .301. Prior to that, there had been only three seasons of .295-or-better EQAs from second basemen in all of Los Angeles Dodger history: Jim Lefebvre (.300 in 1966), Davey Lopes (.310 in 1979) and Steve Sax (.313 in 1986).If you go back to include Brooklyn days, only Jackie Robinson surpasses Kent offensively.
Kent didn't play long enough in Los Angeles to top Lopes or Sax in career value - Lopes is pretty much a no-doubter for the starting lineup of the all-time Los Angeles Dodger team but it is still remarkable to consider that this guy, acquired at the end of his career, ranks third all-time in runs created among Dodger second basemen of the past 50 years.
Though sometimes he could pleasantly surprise you, Kent won't generate many fond memories for his fielding or his diplomacy. In some respects, he evokes Tommy Lasorda in the ferocity of his strengths and weaknesses. A streak hitter and a streak personality, he could be heroic and exasperating, sometimes in the same day.
Before he left the team this weekend for an MRI that could possibly signal the end of his career, one month early, Kent chafed most Dodger fans. Often he could seem as much a problem as a solution. But before he goes, understand that when it comes to second basemen, Los Angeles fans have not seen a hitter like Jeff Kent.
a frozen rope over the big blue wall in left center and into the seats.
Thanks Mr. Kent.
Were you grumpy, surly, extremely focused, or all of these?
See you in the Hall of Fame.
Godspeed Jeff Kent.
In his honor, I will read a motorcycle magazine in my office and not initiate a single conversation with a younger co-worker.
Thanks for the hits, Jeff. But please do not consider going into the HOF as a Dodger.
"If you're going to do it, do it right. Just don't make excuses in anything you do. This game can give so much in finances, give so much in celebrity, and at times that can overshadow giving a good day's work."
"The end result is a World Series. The end result is to be a champion. The process to get there is sacrificial. ... You try no(t) to leave excuses along the way. The only excuse that I want to give at the end of the year without a championship is that you just weren't good enough."
Thanks for putting that up.
Focused determination for the job at hand.
Dude knows what he's do'in - stay out of his way kid.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3849386
http://sportsblogs.latimes.com/sports_baseball_dodgers/2009/01/jeff-kent-to-of.html
Or else Rickey Henderson never would have been eligible.
I'm should be grateful that everything I say in the workplace isn't recorded, quoted, and scrutinized to the nth degree.
Whether or not the Dodgers decide to have a public ceremony for him at a game some night, it's going to be separate.
If you were to substitute "player" for "pitcher," that would sum up how I feel about Jeff Kent.
I always respected him. I sometimes admired him (for certain aspects). He is certainly a Hall of Famer, and you gotta admire a player who achieves that.
But I never rooted for him, even when he played for my team. I would root for outcomes rather than for him to achieve those outcomes, if that makes sense.
I was happy that there was somebody on the team who could smoke a double when that was required, but I will also be happy not to be watching him play for my team anymore.
I'm fairly certain the Jay Jaffe's JAWS showed Kent as a very borderline 2nd baseman because of how much of a hit his candidacy takes because of his defense. Defense from 2nd base has to be part of the equation, it is to important to ignore. We are not talking about a left fielder.
Rather see Pacquiao take on Mayweather anyways.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3840355
Please skip over #13 unless you want to cry.
Since I can't see the whole list, anyone know where the first Dodger appears on it? I'm afraid to ask.
Keith Law's top 100 prospects out. I'll post the Dodgers ones since prospects 26-100 are under the insiders wall.
It would help if his links worked. When clicking on 26-50 we get the top free agents 11-30. Some interns are good at their jobs, some aren't.
Or not, as the page linking to the 26-100 prospects instead link to Keith Law's work on free agents at the beginning of the year.
20. Los Angeles Dodgers: They have hit a lull after years of graduating very good players to the big leagues, including Clayton Kershaw in 2008. Their top pick in 2007, Chris Withrow, now has thrown 13 innings in two years due to elbow trouble and had a little bit of "The Thing" this past summer, walking six in his four innings of actual game work.
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3848691
McDonald continues to miss bats despite his lack of a big fastball. His velocity is just average and he'll often sit at only 88-89, but a plus-plus change and an above-average slow curveball have fooled minor-league hitters since McDonald returned to the mound full-time in 2006.
He'll pitch backwards when needed but is aggressive -- perhaps too much so -- with the fastball, which lacks movement, resulting in a lot of fly balls. His command and control are both above average. While this can often be overblown, he's a "competitor" -- meaning (at least to me) that he goes after hitters rather than trying to work around them. He'll have to modify his pitching plan in the majors, using his off-speed stuff earlier and even in hitters' counts, or else he risks giving up enough home runs to overcome everything else he does well.
Lambo is unusually strong for his age and has a good idea of what he's doing at the plate. He played most of the year at 19 in the low-Class A Midwest League, making contact, showing good doubles power, and -- most impressive of all -- raking against lefties, something very few left-handed hitters in their first full pro seasons can do. He should hit for more power with age but can cut his swing off at its finish, and has some loop length at the start of his swing that could lead to more swings and misses down the line. His approach at the plate hasn't yielded a big walk total, but he does work the count and shows zone awareness even if he doesn't show patience. He's a below-average runner and will likely settle in as a mediocre-glove corner outfielder, so his bat will have to carry him.
Martin was a first-round prospect as a third baseman after the summer of '07, but came on as a pitcher in his senior spring and that, for now at least, is his baseball destiny. As a pitcher, Martin's stuff is electric, with a fastball that sits 91-95 and could easily end up higher after the Dodgers clean up his delivery. He throws a spike curveball that he doesn't command but that has such hard downward break that minor-league hitters will swing and miss at it even when it's out of the zone. He's a great athlete who needs player development's help to become a potential No. 1 or No. 2 starter; unfortunately for Martin, he required knee surgery in late July that ended his season, so his pro debut won't come until 2009, probably in June after he starts in extended spring training.
SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:16 PM ET ) That's a good question. LaRoche's stock has dropped and I asked a few scouts about him last year, and none were enthused. It does sound like the Pirates are committed to giving him some AB to see what he can do, which is the smart move.
Meet Brad Komminsk: .334/.433/.596 with a 78/70 BB/K in AAA as a 22 year old, career OPS of .637.
Plus, if they have movement.
If Broxton is considered elite at 97-98 consistently, then 94-95 is at least slightly above average.
I'll have to read up on +/- and something newer.
And really, pitchers without fastballs simply do not succeed, period. I love Cory Wade, but he'll probably have a long career as a mediocre reliever. Greg Maddux and Pedro Martinez, who I think we can all agree have pinpoint control with their fastballs, got eaten alive once their velocity went down a bit.
One of Bill James's best-known studies reached the conclusion that there has not been a single successful pitcher in major league history who had a below-average strikeout rate as a young pitcher. (I think the only exceptions were guys like Niekro who were lousy pitchers and then became knuckleballers.) Even all the stereotypical soft-tossers like Moyer, Glavine, Tommy John, etc., were relative fireballers when they broke into the league. Movement, location, and all that stuff only matter if you have a halfway decent fastball to begin with.
If you're keeping score at home, Cory Wade's K rate last year was 6.43 per nine innings, while the league average was 6.99.
It's a staple of Jamesian wisdom that a player should play the hardest defensive position that he can handle (mostly to free up a lineup spot for a better hitter who is an even worse defender), but it's worth questioning whether Kent really could handle second base.
My eyes told me that he had good hands and, as ELD said, could turn the DP well. But he had no range. He could move to his left by running toward the outfield to chase balls down (taking advantage of the correspondingly short throw to 1b). But he made a lot of routine grounders look like line drives in the box score.
His defensive deficiencies SHOULD count against him, but they won't.
And FWIW, I agree with ToyCannon about Bobby Grich.
It might serve as a reminder that there is something to scouting that is lost in numbers (in the sense that a slightly above average player taking advantage of below average opponents produces what I might call a false positive). All we can do is learn from past events and hope not to make the same mistake twice - especially when there are so many new and interesting mistakes to be made.
But that's something that would be much easier to figure out statistically than subjectively.
I agree with you that numbers can't tell us everything, but that's a bad example of it.
I have heard that before and it is a terrible idea. People do not want to see them go at it again. I did not want to see Pacquiao take on Hatton either, because they are both brawlers and Pacquiao would have just destroyed him.
I get the impression that BBWAA types think defense is much more important than it actually is. Some people will omit Kent from their ballots for this reason, but I think he'll eventually get in nonetheless. And although I haven't studied the issue, my impression is that the lousiness of his defense has been overstated anyway.
74 The LA Dodger Jeff Kent probably had no business playing 2B any more, but if UZR means anything (0.0 is average), his UZR for the three seasons prior, 2002-2004, ages 34-36, were 2.0, 0.0, 5.8 - average or better.
Same reasoning for determining who the good pitchers are.
In the area of prospects I can say enough of the info Tot Holmes brings at www.dodgers.scout.com. His latest story on Ethan Martin really gives you the perspective behind him being our number one pick.
I remember when Kent was signed much discussion ensured on DT about how the subjective view was that he was a terrible defensive 2nd baseman but that the stats showed he was adequate.
After watching him play 2nd base for 4 years I felt like Go Bears, that he had great hands but the worse range I'd ever seen. His strong arm helped him on the DP.
True, but it is worth it if you like to follow the minor league system.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9114534/Sources:-Ausmus-picking-between-Dodgers,-Pads
http://tinyurl.com/8lr25p
Hard to watch but hard to stop watching, too.
After reading the report, the answer is a surprising no. At this point I still have no idea what he throws. This is the closest thing he has:
""He was been tremendous for us," Great Lakes manager Juan Bustabad said. "He's a bulldog. He throws strikes and comes right at hitters."
But Bustabad didn't get to keep him all that long. He was promoted to Inland Empire in the California League and lowered his ERA to 2.15 over 20 appearances. He struck out 40 in 37.2 innings with the 66ers and his control became even sharper, walking only seven batters."
Doesn't AJ Ellis minor league career look a bit like Paul La Duca's?
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=4363
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=8440
I'm on the Blanco bandwagon with ToyCannon.
The first ever complaint I received as a librarian about someone wanting something removed from the library because they thought it was objectionable was for a VHS copy of "Paint Your Wagon."
However, they didn't the proper reason for objecting to it, i.e., it's really bad.
Per Rosenthal
http://earlpomerantz.blogspot.com/2009/01/london-times-part-five.html
Free-agent catcher Brad Ausmus has agreed to a one-year, $1 million contract with the Dodgers, according to a major-league source.
Danny Adroin and A.J. Ellis say nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
I've got to reread "The Bridges of Madison County" for the 25th time.
I just had a scary glimpse of how I must look when I am dacing
This line from mlbtraderumors about Ausmus is great...
"His value will lie in intangibles."
I see your point after re-reading all the writeups. He does a great job of getting the story about the player but not so much on the scouting side. I temper my recommendation.
Oh, and 125 , yeah, that was good. Thanks.
http://tinyurl.com/7q5y5c
I remember Ausmus he was the whipping boy at BP because his offense had become so bad, but it was his unlikely home run in the bottom of the 9th that tied up game 4 in the NLDS in 2005. After 18 innings Chris Burke finally won it with his own home run.
143 Amazon has a boxed set of 8 for $32.00...I'm just afraid of winding up with a
bunch of Ann Rice type books.
Room for Manny and Wolf?
Shouldn't sports commentators, y'know, watch sports? If you're going to scoff at Dodgers that have trotted out to left field, why not go after Juan Pierre?
Liked getting it all done at once, but three hours was tough!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=ethiean01
I'm liking the MLB network stuff. Not loving it, but it's the best baseball coverage on TV, and it's just the Hot Stove Season.
A real little bit.
Yeah, I don't believe it either.
Go to Brazil.
Why does it have to be on so late?
Lost. Then Top Chef and UFC Primetime.
Manny: .396/.489/.743, 36 R, 17 HR, 53 RBI in 229 PA
Non-Manny: .261/.317/.322, 60 R, 2 HR, 40 RBI in 503 PA.
I am sure he will. He dominated him in their first fight.
http://tinyurl.com/blcnj2
(Man, I won't condone throwing fists, but as a sometime critic I sure wouldn't want a publicity rep harassing me into changing my opinion of a film.)
If Henry Blanco catches Chris Young every start, perhaps the opponent will only attempt to steal every other time on base instead of every single time.
Rotoworld apprently doesn't know that Gary Bennett existed
But Bennett is no longer on the 40-man roster, unlike Ardoin.
http://tinyurl.com/99l8gp
That story makes me afraid to hate on a film where the publicist is big and at the same screening.
This thread: does anybody know if the '92 Blue Jays ever officially give Kent a ring in a box?
Blanco: .260/.295/.386, 72 OPS+
Ausmus: .229/.311/.300, 60 OPS+
SB Against 2006-2008
Blanco: threw out 31 of 75 base stealers (41.3%)
Ausmus: 39/165 (23.6%)
2009 Age
Blanco: 37
Ausmus: 40
2009 Base Salary
Blanco: $750,000
Ausmus: $1,000,000
Ummmm, why?
Also, does Blanco have any Gold Gloves? I didn't think so.
Okay, I really need to be working.
BA: Yes, Mr. Colletti, sir. I am very honored to be talking to another great fan of the great game of baseball, who appreciates how great it is that we get to play this great game and teach it to the youths of our country. How may I help you, Mr. Colletti, sir?
NC: Brad, I gotta tell ya, I have always loved that attitude of yours. Brad, we've got some young pitchers on the staff, and we're looking for someone to show them how to play the game right.
BA: Good idea, sir! That's the only way to play it!
NC: Well Brad, I know you know that, because I'm sure you've been doing it for decades!
BA: Oh, me, sir? I wouldn't know about that. Aw, shucks.
NC: Brad, we are prepared to offer you a $3 million salary to come help coach our pitching staff and catchers.
BA: Wow! That is quite an offer, sir!
NC: I thought you'd like it.
BA: And I guess now you can let the kid have a few extra innings off, eh, sir?
NC: I'm sorry, what's that?
BA: Well, with me on board, this fine youngster you've got at catcher can maybe take a few extra breathers while I work the leather - right, sir?
NC: Oooh. Uh, well, you see, I just ... you see, Brad, we respect your playing skills so much that we figured you'd be more comfortable coaching, without the added burden of having to work so hard to maintain yourself in the peak physical shape that you are in ...
BA: I'm sorry, sir, I don't understand.
NC: Well, we already have Danny Ardoin, and, with all due reverence to your wonderful career, he is also a, shall we say, defensive specialist, and his arm is still in quite good... and, you know, he's not a great hitter, but he's, well, you know, we kind of think maybe he'll offer more with the bat than... it's just ...
BA:
NC: ... Well, and, we also kind of like this kid we've got at triple A, he hits pretty nice and for a backup he would ...
BA:
NC: Brad? Are you ... what are you thinking?
BA: Mr. Colletti, sir, I understand what you are saying. I understand I am not the great player I once tried to be. But I... I can't walk away from this game that I love to focus on coaching baseball. I need to leave every last ounce of blood, sweat, and tears out on that field. I want to pound my knuckles into the cement wall of the opposition over and over, until every red drop has exited my body and mixed with the glorious infield dirt to form a delicious Gamer stew. You're not getting me off that
NC: But Brad, we are prepared to offer you $3 million to coach with us! You won't receive that kind of money elsewhere. Don't you want to be with us? I mean, you're not likely to even make the league minimum this year as a player. How can you walk away from that kind of money?
BA: I don't believe in players taking money from teams or walking away from money. I believe in GAMERS giving everything they've got to the team, sir. And that's what I want to do for the Los Angeles Dodgers, give EVERYTHING I've got.
NC: Well, Brad, that's very admirable, but like I said, our other options -
BA: SCREW your other options! I'm going to give EVERYTHING I'VE GOT. Mr. Colletti, if you pay me $3 million to coach, then I will pay the Dodgers $2 million to let me play!
NC:
BA: I will give everything that's left in my bat, my mitt, and my catcher's cannon. You will not regret this for even one iota of a nanosecond. Mr. Colletti, I AM the Los Angeles Dodgers, and you would be a fool not to let me be all that I can be!
NC: Brad, I've always heard so much about your great reputation. Everyone loves you. But I wasn't so sure. I knew I needed to find some way to see if the legend I'd heard so much was the REAL Brad Ausmus, the guy I'd be getting. Brad, I tested you. It didn't occur to me for one second that if Brad Ausmus was truly BRAD AUSMUS I would do anything but put him out on that diamond where he belongs. How does $1 million sound, Brad?
BA: Aww, shucks, Mr. Colletti, sir. I guess you got me real good! Aww, boy. You really did a number on me.
NC: So do we have a deal for an even mil?
BA: If it's guaranteed, I'll bleed! Yes, Mr. Colletti, sir!
NC: FanTAStic news, Brad. And Brad, you're right. This does mean we'll finally let the kid take a couple games off each week.
BA: Can't wait, sir!
But it might have been a heck of a fight while it lasted. :-)
Markakis Contract
signing bonus: $2.1m (paid over 2009-2010)
2009: $3m
2010: $6.75m
2011: $10.25m
2012: $12m
2013: $15m
2014: $15m
2015: $17.5m mutual option ($2m buyout)
Markakis is sitting on 3 years service time, just ahead of the 2 years, 153 days for Ethier. Spreading the signing bonus over the life of the contract (since that's how MLB calculates contracts), Markakis will earn $3.35m this season.
WAR 2006-2008
Markakis 2.0/3.5/5.4 (10.9 total)
Ethier 1.7/2.1/3.6 (7.4 total)
OPS+ 2006-2008
Markakis 106/121/134 (121 overall)
Ethier 113/103/130 (116 overall)
Counting Stats: Runs/2B/HR/RBI/SB career
Markakis 275/116/59/261/30
Ethier 190/90/44/196/11
No matter how you slice it, Markakis is better than Ethier. And Markakis will earn $3.35m in 2009. No way to justify Ethier making $3.75m.
Time to settle.
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