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Lambo Draws First Blood
2009-01-31 08:48
by Jon Weisman

For those who haven't heard, Andrew Lambo has moved to the top of the Baseball America Dodger prospect list. In 2008, the 6-foot-3, 190-pound 20-year-old outfielder from Newbury Park followed an .807 OPS for Class A Great Lakes by going 14 for 26 with three homers for Jacksonville.

Here are the Dodger farmhands with the best tools, according to BA.

Best Hitter for Average: Lambo
Best Power Hitter: Josh Bell
Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Ivan DeJesus
Fastest Baserunner: Devaris Gordon
Best Athlete: Gordon
Best Fastball: Josh Lindblom
Best Curveball: Scott Elbert
Best Slider: Travis Schlichting
Best Changeup: James McDonald
Best Control: McDonald
Best Defensive Catcher: A.J. Ellis
Best Defensive Infielder: Gordon
Best Infield Arm: Pedro Baez
Best Defensive Outfielder: Jamie Hoffmann
Best Outfield Arm: Xavier Paul

Comments (198)
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2009-01-31 09:23:22
1.   Gen3Blue
It seems like X.Paul has been around forever. Too bad his bat didn't catch up because he is quite an athlete. But with him and Hoffman we have excellent late game defensive men if we don't make more mistakes stockpiling old outfielders.
2009-01-31 09:24:06
2.   CanuckDodger
Hey, Jon, it's "Jamie Hoffmann." Two "n's" in the surname and the "i" goes after the "m" in the given name.
2009-01-31 09:26:39
3.   Gen3Blue
Who here would get sensitive about the right # of n's at the end of a name?
2009-01-31 09:31:44
4.   CanuckDodger
3 -- I'm sensitive to the feelings of Mr. Hoffmann, whose eyes may fall upon this website.:
2009-01-31 09:33:44
5.   Bob Timmermann
Jamie Hoffmann is Jacques Offenbach's favorite player.
2009-01-31 09:35:11
6.   bhsportsguy
Four years ago

Best Hitter for Average: Blake Dewitt
Best Power Hitter: Joel Guzman
Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Cory Dunlap
Fastest Baserunner: Jason Repko
Best Athlete: Matt Kemp
Best Fastball: Edwin Jackson
Best Curveball: Chuck Tiffany
Best Slider: Chad Billingsley
Best Changeup: Alfredo Gonzalez
Best Control: Steve Schmoll
Best Defensive Catcher: Russell Martin
Best Defensive Infielder: Chin-Ling Hu
Best Infield Arm: Andy LaRoche
Best Defensive Outfielder: Jason Repko
Best Outfield Arm: Xavier Paul

Xavier Paul had the best outfield arm in 2005 too.

Of the 14 players listed in the Dodgers projected 2008 lineup, on 3 remain on the Dodgers 2009 40 man roster, Martin, Billingsley and Tony Abreu.

But, only 6 of the 14 were Dodger prospects (Martin, Abreu, LaRoche, Guzman, Billingsley and Gagne), the rest were veterans.

2009-01-31 09:35:16
7.   Gen3Blue
4 Just trying to bait a frequent commenter.
2009-01-31 09:40:08
8.   Eric Stephen
Awesome post title today.
2009-01-31 09:41:27
9.   silverwidow
Does anyone have the Prospect Handbook yet? I ordered from Amazon, so have to wait until mid-Feb.
2009-01-31 09:43:52
10.   Gen3Blue
9 I've been watching a bookstore with a good record of getting them fairly early---so far nothing.
2009-01-31 09:44:38
11.   Eric Stephen
They are just now shipping from Baseball America. From past experiences, ordering directly from them was quicker than anywhere else, but also about $10 more expensive.

I called my local Barnes & Noble, and it is scheduled to be in stores February 10.

2009-01-31 09:45:01
12.   Jon Weisman
2 - Blame BA.
2009-01-31 09:48:23
13.   bhsportsguy
12 In the 2005 book that I took the Top Tools list from, Hu's first name was spelled incorrectly.
2009-01-31 09:50:16
14.   bhsportsguy
11 I have not ordered my copy yet, the trip to DC really scattered January for me.
2009-01-31 09:53:30
15.   CanuckDodger
Speaking of Xavier Paul, you know, a few days ago I contrasted the Dodgers' draft record, in the Logan White era, with proper first rounders and first supplemental round picks, noting that we haven't been doing well at all in the latter category. Now take a look at White's record with fourth round picks:

2002 -- Delwyn Young
2003 -- Xavier Paul
2004 -- Javy Guerra
2005 -- Josh Bell
2006 -- Kyle Orr
2007 -- Andrew Lambo
2008 -- Devaris Gordon

I swear, more of our fourth round picks from 2002 to 2008 are going to make the majors than our first supplemental round picks from the same time frame.

2009-01-31 09:57:47
16.   D4P
From Eric Neyer:

Is Varitek actually worth $5 million this year, and another $5 million (or perhaps $3 million) next year? Probably. According to FanGraphs, Varitek was worth $5.6 million last year -- again, playing about as poorly as he could play -- and $12 million the year before.

2009-01-31 10:04:11
17.   ToyCannon
Looks like a good lead for a story. Lambo already looks like someone who should have been a 1st rounder and by the end of the year we may be saying the same about Gordon.

I dare say no other team has their last two 4th round picks in their top ten list. For one of them to be our top prospect after only 1 1/2 years of professional ball is astounding.

If we had only kept Santana and Watt I'm fairly certain Peavy would be wearing Dodger Blue today.

2009-01-31 10:05:23
18.   Eric Stephen
Now that the all-time LA Dodger lineup has been chosen over at TBLA, we are adding a pitching staff. The vote is now on for #1 starter, in what will probably be our most lopsided poll to date.

2009-01-31 10:15:34
19.   silverwidow
If we had only kept Santana and Watt I'm fairly certain Peavy would be wearing Dodger Blue today.

Doubt it. Padres were going to ask for elite major leaguers (Bills or Kemp or Kershaw) no matter what.

2009-01-31 10:24:16
20.   katysdad
So I'm playing R.B.I. Baseball using the '90 Dodgers and my daughter asks if Manny is on the team. I told her no and she said do you want him on the team? I told her yes. She said "He's the boy with the long hair, right? He does a lot of damage." Out of the mouths of babes.
2009-01-31 10:25:24
21.   bhsportsguy
19 I believe TC's is basing his opinion on the rumored package that the Braves had offered w/o their number one pitching and hitting prospects.
2009-01-31 10:28:31
22.   DaDoughboy
As of now it looks to be 100% lopsided.
2009-01-31 10:38:24
23.   silverwidow
21 The Braves didn't have to pay the "Dodger premium" a.k.a. more than any other team in baseball.
2009-01-31 10:39:07
24.   jasonungar07
20 That's awesome. Spoken like a mini Vin Scully!
2009-01-31 10:47:42
25.   underdog
Meanwhile in the UK, someone writes a "Son of Lambow" post.
2009-01-31 10:51:06
26.   Eric Stephen
I don't even think 1980s Bill Cosby would wear the sweater worn by Tommy Lasorda in this photo:

2009-01-31 10:58:21
27.   D4P
If there's one test The Cosby Show has not stood, it would be that of time. It's on sometimes in my gym and it's completely unwatchable.
2009-01-31 11:16:21
28.   ToyCannon
Disagree, they wanted 1st year players or players on the brink of playing. If Watt is still here then adding McDonald or Elbert to the package is not as damaging. They need catching, SS, and pitching. I think Santana, DeJesus/Hu, and Elbert/McDonald gets it done based on the packages I've heard being offered by the Cubs/Braves.
Santana will be ready by 2010 and the others could be playing this year for the Padres. It is all about money for them and getting quality cheap players they can control for a number of years.
2009-01-31 11:20:37
29.   Bob Hendley
22 - Mr. Park is on the verge of taking the lead from Sandy. Something fishy is going on. Close the polls!
2009-01-31 11:26:45
30.   ToyCannon
Taken care of.
2009-01-31 11:27:03
31.   katysdad
Mr. Park has taken the lead. I call shenanigans.
2009-01-31 11:27:46
32.   katysdad
48 seconds. My call of shenanigans still stands.
2009-01-31 11:29:23
33.   D4P
Doug Rau got a vote. I call shenanigans.
2009-01-31 11:31:13
34.   Bob Timmermann
The shape of things to come?


2009-01-31 11:35:14
35.   Eric Stephen
2009-01-31 11:36:58
36.   ToyCannon
They said Baez has been timed at 95 from throws 3rd to 1st. One scout said he might make the majors but as a pitcher. I wonder how long you wait for you try the conversion.
2009-01-31 11:38:23
37.   Bob Timmermann
I would not want to be a first baseman trying to catch a 95 mph throw. I wonder how hard Shawon Dunston threw in his prime. He had the strongest infield arm I ever saw.
2009-01-31 11:39:56
38.   The Trolley Dodger
34 Love the caption:

Richard Halloran
Owns Home Computer

2009-01-31 11:43:58
39.   D4P
One of two to three thousand home computer owners in the Bay Area.
2009-01-31 11:48:42
40.   Eric Stephen
For Brent Knapp from last thread:

A few weeks ago there was discussion of a pool for a football game in which money was given out at many times, such as after each scoring took place. Does anyone have or know where these rules are? it sounds like a more interesting way to run a pool for the super bowl.

I have to thank ToyCannon for this, but here are said rules:

Charge $X per square for 100 squares.

1) Each score after the extra point pays $2.5X
2) Each score at the end of the first three quarters pays $10X
3) Whatever is left is for the winner.

Last year's Super Bowl, for example:

$20 per square = $2000 total prize money

Giants FG, 3-0. Pays $50
End of Q1, 3-0. Pays $200
Pats TD, 3-7. Pays $50
End of Q2, 3-7. Pays $200
End of Q3, 3-7. Pays $200 (this person is raking it in!)
Giants TD, 10-7. Pays $50
Pats TD, 10-14. Pays $50
Giants TD, 17-14. Pays $50

Final score, 17-14. Pays remainder, which was $1,150 (57.5% of the pot).

2009-01-31 11:51:10
41.   Bob Hendley
What was that red thing with a dial?
2009-01-31 11:53:18
42.   Gagne55
When I just went, Koufax had 90% of the vote.
2009-01-31 11:54:54
43.   Eric Stephen
We removed Chan Ho Park from the poll since someone somehow was voting for him over and over again.
2009-01-31 11:58:11
44.   Bob Hendley
43 - I don't think it was Shimmin. Cuz, while there was little discernable reward, it probably would have required a little bit of energy on his part.
2009-01-31 11:58:59
45.   D4P
We removed Chan Ho Park from the poll since someone somehow was voting for him over and over again

I've heard that some people even pull that stuff with All-Star voting...

2009-01-31 12:22:32
46.   Daniel Zappala
34 In that spirit, in case anyone is thinking of buying a new computer:

2009-01-31 12:24:16
47.   trainwreck
Very happy to see Derrick Thomas make the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Never respected or liked an opposing player more than him. Was also, the first athlete I can remember passing away that really made me sad.
2009-01-31 12:29:03
48.   trainwreck
And of course, Rod Woodson, who everyone knew was getting in.
2009-01-31 12:48:06
49.   Bob Timmermann
RIP, Ingemar Johansson
2009-01-31 12:51:59
50.   Tripon
Oh wow, the L.A. Times killed off their California section. They're not focusing on local news, they're not focusing on national, or global. What in the heck are they focusing on?
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2009-01-31 12:52:31
51.   The Trolley Dodger
41 Back then, we all had one of those in case the commies attacked.
2009-01-31 12:54:06
52.   The Trolley Dodger
50 Pretty soon the Times is just going to be a pamphlet consisting of advertising and a URL pointing to the website.
2009-01-31 12:57:06
53.   kinbote
51 Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room.
2009-01-31 13:05:18
54.   Bob Timmermann
The guy splurged to buy a home computer and modem in 1981, but he wouldn't pay the surcharge at the time that was required to get a touch tone phone.
2009-01-31 13:15:45
55.   silverwidow
Has anyone ever had a better 411 2/3 IP than Maddux from 1994-95?

1.60 ERA

That is absurd.

2009-01-31 13:21:45
56.   Eric Stephen
Ohhhh, so close.

Maddux '94-'95: 411.2 IP, 266 ERA+
Pedro '99-'00: 430.1 IP, 265 ERA+

2009-01-31 13:25:03
57.   Eric Stephen
55 ,56
If you take off the first 19.1 IP of Pedro's 1999 season (7 ER), his overall two-year ERA lowers from 1.90 to 1.84.

That would make his 411.2 IP run roughly a 274 ERA+, higher than that of Mr. Maddux.

2009-01-31 13:35:46
58.   Eric Stephen
In terms of nominal ERA, Bob Gibson had a 47 stretch run from the end of 1967 through his first 11 starts of 1969:

411.2 IP, 1.16 ERA

2009-01-31 13:39:20
59.   LogikReader
I hate the Montreal Canadiens.

That is all.

2009-01-31 13:45:36
60.   Eric Stephen
I don't know much about hockey, but giving up 2 goals in the last two minutes after you were up 1 seems a horrible, sucker punchy way to lose.
2009-01-31 13:50:08
61.   old dodger fan
As much as I enjoyed watching Manny hit HR's, to me there is no greater thrill in baseball than a dominant pitcher, especialy when he's a Dodger. When Koufax, Hershiser and Drysdale were at their best it was amazing. Koufax in games 5 and 7 of the '65 WS were as exciting to me as the Gibson HR.
2009-01-31 14:22:40
62.   fanerman
Maybe it's because I'm sick and don't have all my mental faculties, but I'm really digging the title of the thread.
2009-01-31 14:24:49
63.   Tripon
62 Bloodsport is the greatest movie ever.
2009-01-31 14:25:27
64.   Bob Hendley
Drysdale, 29 caerer dingers; Gibson, 24 career dingers.
2009-01-31 14:28:45
65.   Eric Stephen
2009-01-31 14:36:21
66.   fanerman
65 Yeah, como?
2009-01-31 14:36:27
67.   Eric Stephen
Daron Sutton is doing play-by-play for the ASU/Washington game. Pass.
2009-01-31 14:36:38
68.   D4P
Wrong overrated action hero who can't really speak English.
2009-01-31 14:37:28
69.   Eric Stephen
I may be crazy, but I thought the title of this post referenced this movie instead:

2009-01-31 14:40:41
70.   Bob Hendley
My wife just got back from a bazaar in a nearby pueblo (kinda like the whole town engaging in a garage sale at the same time) and brought me back a mitt de puro cuero signed by Jorge Fitch. She amazes me.
2009-01-31 14:42:21
71.   fanerman
69 I'm pretty sure it does.
2009-01-31 14:43:47
72.   Eric Stephen
Right, which brings me back to how in the hell Bloodsport fits in with 62 ,63 .
2009-01-31 14:50:02
73.   Tripon
72 Like D4P said, I remembered the wrong over rated action hero.
2009-01-31 14:52:07
74.   LogikReader
Overrated? Who could beat THE TERMINATOR? (not so much 3, but the first two).
2009-01-31 14:53:08
75.   LogikReader

Whoops... ANOTHER wrong overrated action hero.

2009-01-31 14:57:06
76.   trainwreck
At least Jean Claude can actually do cool things. All those other old action hero guys can't do anything cool.

Unless you count Steven Segal running like a 3-year old girl.

2009-01-31 14:57:56
77.   fanerman
What a can of worms I've opened.
2009-01-31 15:01:07
78.   fanerman
Speaking of JCVD, Street Fighter the movie (the live-action one) comes out on blu-ray soon.

February = Street Fighter month.

Feb. 10 - Street Fighter movie (1994) out on blu-ray
Feb. 17 - Street Fighter IV hits consoles.
Feb. 27 - Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li (aka the Kristin Kreuk movie) comes out in theaters

2009-01-31 15:03:23
79.   trainwreck
The new Street Fighter movie almost makes me as sad as the Dragonball movie.

M. Bison is just a guy in business suit and Vega is played by a guy from the Black-eyed Peas. Talk about lame.

2009-01-31 15:04:48
80.   fanerman
79 Yeah, and Kristin Kreuk doesn't have big enough thighs to be Chun-Li, but I'm still gonna see it.
2009-01-31 15:05:20
81.   regfairfield
Seagal once broke someones neck with the camel clutch.
2009-01-31 15:07:20
82.   bhsportsguy
79 Just spent the early afternoon at Pauley with Mr. Brock. He wanted to talk UCLA football recruiting so I had to use his Iphone to log into BRO and give him the latest.

Overall, another nice game for the Bruins but let's see if they can continue their offensive exploits against some better defense. Gordon probably has the best hops (for a big) on the team.

2009-01-31 15:09:05
83.   trainwreck
Yeah, need a better test. Lee and Gordon are probably the best athletes on the team.
2009-01-31 15:10:21
84.   trainwreck
As for recruiting, Tepa is coming and then anyone else would shock me frankly.
2009-01-31 15:12:10
85.   Eric Stephen
That's one of my favorite all-time DT comments.
2009-01-31 15:17:52
86.   Tripon
Who in real life has thighs like Chun Li? They were made into freaky proportions in Street Fighter III: Third Strike.
2009-01-31 15:20:27
87.   Tripon
Wait, the Chun Li movie isn't straight to DVD?
2009-01-31 15:21:26
88.   trainwreck
2009-01-31 15:22:47
89.   fanerman
87 Michael Clare Duncan plays Balrog! Would he play Balrog for a straight-to-DVD movie?
2009-01-31 15:24:08
90.   fanerman
86 Chun-Li's in-game sprites:

2009-01-31 15:24:27
91.   trainwreck
In Japan, Balrog is Bison and Bison is Balrog.

I like the American way better.

2009-01-31 15:24:49
92.   fanerman
The Street Fighter Alpha one (where she's wearing pants) doesn't look so out-of-proportion.
2009-01-31 15:26:18
93.   Dodgers49
Diamond Leung notes some changes in the Dodgers 2009 schedule beginning with the opening series in San Diego:

Dodgers schedule changes

2009-01-31 15:26:30
94.   fanerman
Boxer = Balrog US = M. Bison Japan
Claw = Vega US = Balrog Japan
Dictator = M. Bison US = Vega Japan
2009-01-31 15:27:52
95.   Tripon
America - Japan
Vega = Balrog
M. Bison = Vega
Balrong = M. Bison
2009-01-31 15:28:36
96.   Bluebleeder87
Is there a documentary or biography out there on Piazza?
2009-01-31 15:29:15
97.   trainwreck
Oh yeah. Balrog does not sound very Spanish.
2009-01-31 15:31:35
98.   trainwreck
They need to make a Street Fighter movie with Akuma.

In one of the animes, he looks crazy, because they make his head and body so big.

2009-01-31 15:33:24
99.   Eric Stephen
Prior to the change, the first time the Dodgers would need a 5th starter was April 25. game #17.

Now they need 5 starters right out of the gate.

2009-01-31 15:39:36
100.   Bluebleeder87
From Wikipedia Pop culture references -> During the 1994 baseball strike, Piazza and Joe Morgan appeared on Married... with Children. He also did cameos in episodes of Baywatch, Celebrity Jeopardy! (which he won) and The Apprentice.


He appears in the 2002 Sandra Bullock and Hugh Grant movie, "Two Weeks Notice".

In the 2002 movie Kung Pow! Enter the Fist, Betty hears an echo, and decides to pretend he is a PA announcer and says "Now batting, MIKE PIAZZA!"


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2009-01-31 15:40:56
101.   Dodgers49
First Moises Alou. Now Roger Clements. Who's next. :-)

Can you trust Joe? Torre's tell-all raises doubts about what he holds sacred

>> Up front, I must say it's a compelling read, even if Yankee trainer Steve Donohue rubbing Roger Clemens' testicles with extra hot liniment before every start was probably more information than I needed to know. <<

2009-01-31 15:43:00
102.   Dodgers49
101 Roger Clemens
2009-01-31 15:44:48
103.   trainwreck
1) Why in the world does he need to do that?

2) Why in the world could he not do it himself?

2009-01-31 15:46:42
104.   trainwreck
Also, Torre seems to be losing credibility by the day as it seems like more and more is coming out about his players even though Joe says the book is really about him.

I would have an issue listening to anything he told me, if I was on the Dodgers.

2009-01-31 15:55:06
105.   Gagne55
101 Wouldn't heating the testicles lower their ability to produce testosterone?
2009-01-31 15:58:43
106.   imperabo
101 Goodness gracious.
2009-01-31 16:07:12
107.   Xeifrank
Congrats to Camarillo's Mike and Bob Bryan for winning the Men's Doubles Championship at the Aussie Open. I remember watching them practice at Cabrillo Racquet Club as youngsters when their dad Wayne was the head pro there. I actually faced them when they were 13 years old in an Open doubles tournament in Westlake-Village. Of course I was probably double their age at the time and got smoke 6-2,6-1. They didn't have the power back then, but sure had all the fundamentals down.
vr, Xei
2009-01-31 16:07:23
108.   Tripon
104 How is Torre saying all this years after any different from all the 'leaked' rumors about the Dodgers we heard, such as Russell Martin needed to be taken down a peg or two, or the immaturity level of the younger Dodgers players. Or how much of a pain in the rear Kent, Penny, or Lowe was to the team?
2009-01-31 16:07:33
109.   JoeyP
Not really sure what Baseball America sees in Devaris-Gordon.

He showed little power, not much plate discipline & made 24 errors in 60 games as a 20yr old in rookie league..If that gets a spot in the Dodgers top 10,then the system must be really weak.

Delmonico played much better than Gordon did last year.

If Josh Bell is the best power hitter in the He hit 6 HRS all of last season. He looked pretty good in 2006. Not since. Had to think that pick should have went to Kyle Russell..but BA's always hates guys like him.

2009-01-31 16:09:54
110.   JoeyP
BA- also listed Josh Lindolm as the #5 starter in 2012..? For a guy that was a reliever all his college career..and a reliever in the minors..when and why would this switch take place?
2009-01-31 16:11:37
111.   trainwreck
Because he is Tooly McToolington.
2009-01-31 16:11:48
112.   Tripon
110 Josh Lindolm was starting in the minors.
2009-01-31 16:13:07
113.   Eric Stephen
I would have went with O'Tool, but I like McToolington.
2009-01-31 16:13:43
114.   Dodgers49
Giants could ultimately be in mix for Manny

>> A problem for Ramirez and Boras is that the Dodgers simply won't be pushed too far because market forces completely undercut Team Manny: The Dodgers can operate with the knowledge that if they don't get Ramirez, they could conceivably sign two really good players for the price of what they have offered Ramirez -- and the corner outfield market remains loaded with attractive alternatives, from Adam Dunn to Bobby Abreu to Garret Anderson, etc., etc. The Dodgers are going to get a really good hitter, one way or another, and they'll probably get Ramirez, at their price, just as the Red Sox got Jason Varitek at their price. <<

I'd be willing to bet my last dollar (and there aren't many left :-) ) that if Ned Colletti does not sign Manny he will start the season with Juan Pierre in left field.

2009-01-31 16:19:36
115.   JoeyP
I think he was starting just so they were for sure he'd get regular innings.

He started 8 games with Great Lakes & pitched 29 innings.

Maybe BA's assuming the 1 game (5 innings) he started with Jacksonville is a harbinger for things to come. Everything I've read has Lindblom as a reliever.

2009-01-31 16:20:15
116.   regfairfield
When a guy's best case scenario is Jack Cust, it's really no shock that BA doesn't like him that much. I'm surprised that he even made top 10.
2009-01-31 16:21:45
117.   JoeyP
114- If Dunn/Sheets can both be had for 1 Manny, I'd make that deal now.
2009-01-31 16:24:19
118.   JoeyP
116- Kyle Russell didnt make the top 10. Neither did Delmonico.

I'll say, if a guy that hasnt even played 1 game is already your 3rd best prospect, the organization is say the least. And Ethan Martin wasnt even a top 10 caliber pick.

2009-01-31 16:25:25
119.   Dodgers49
117 No doubt. But you're not Ned. :-) And I'm betting on Ned.
2009-01-31 16:26:38
120.   trainwreck
But they did not play for the Red Sox, Giants, Yankees, or Cubs, therefore they are not worthy in Ned's eyes.
2009-01-31 16:36:26
121.   silverwidow
118 And Ethan Martin wasnt even a top 10 caliber pick.

He has a 96 mph fastball, hammer curve and athleticism coming out of his ears. Only thing he lacks is refinement/experience.

2009-01-31 16:43:14
122.   ToyCannon
Bell missed most of the season with a knee injury.

Gordon wowed the scouts not the stat sheet. Fast guys who are also strong tend to make them take notice. He's a guy whose played very very little organized baseball even though his dad was Flash Gordon.

2009-01-31 16:45:05
123.   ToyCannon
Sounds like they could be had for 1/2 of Manny. Let's do a twofer.
2009-01-31 16:45:45
124.   Eric Stephen
Meanwhile, Pops Flash is getting interest from Arizona.

2009-01-31 17:05:24
125.   Eric Stephen
USC & Cal will round out the first half of the Pac 10 basketball season later tonight. The winner of that game stays within a game of UCLA & Washington.
2009-01-31 17:21:24
126.   Bluebleeder87
Martin's OBP & OPS+ the last 3 years.
2006 - 355
2007 - 374
2008 - 385

2006 - 101
2007 - 113
2008 - 106


Educated guess based on what I've seen & read - I'm thinking he's gonna take his game to another level this year.

2009-01-31 17:27:05
127.   Lexinthedena
Andrew Bynum is down.
2009-01-31 17:29:08
128.   fanerman
2009-01-31 17:31:08
129.   Sac Town Dodger Fan
Brad Miller is available!
2009-01-31 17:31:27
130.   Tripon
Its against Memphis? What the heck does Memphis have against Andrew Bynum?
2009-01-31 17:32:08
131.   Pecos Bill
A severe hyper extention happenned to me about 5 years ago. Hurt like everything for an hour, could barely walk for 2 days and was back to new after a week except for feeling a little loose for a month.

Hopefully nothing worse than that for Bynum

2009-01-31 17:32:34
132.   Eric Stephen
I always forget about Saturday Laker games. It's not on TV for me though.

How bad is the injury?

Damn, maybe he should have been suspended! :)

2009-01-31 17:34:12
133.   Lexinthedena
130- Kobe fell into him.
2009-01-31 17:34:15
134.   fanerman
Maybe it looked worse than it is...
2009-01-31 17:34:27
135.   Sam DC
It's a long story, but at one point I owned an original Bloodsport lobby poster signed by the Muscles himself.

It was a gift.

It never made it to the wall.

2009-01-31 17:34:33
136.   MyTummyHurts

to take a quote from the movie "Swingers" "reputation seems to have presided him" (obp)

2009-01-31 17:42:25
137.   Tripon
KCAL is reporting a sprain right knee, and MRI on Bynum in new york. He's not coming back tonight.
2009-01-31 17:48:33
138.   oshea2002
Unbelievable. Even if nothing's torn, we've seen how a 6 week injury with him can be 6 months.
2009-01-31 17:49:59
139.   fanerman
137 Is that what they said last year?
2009-01-31 17:56:16
140.   fanerman
X-rays negative.
2009-01-31 18:01:08
141.   Tripon
139 Something similar. I remember the Loose Cannons arguing that it was a good thing that Bynum got hurt last year. Frigging idiots.
2009-01-31 18:04:42
142.   fanerman
Apparently x-rays were negative last year also. Deja vu...
2009-01-31 18:12:04
143.   Sac Town Dodger Fan
While I didnt stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, most knee injuries tend to have negative x-rays. The fact he didnt put any weight on it would concern me more if I was a Lakers fan.
2009-01-31 18:16:16
144.   bhsportsguy
143 As they said, its hard to tell these things by how the player reacts after the injury. Michael Redd is the latest example of a player who walked off the court on his own and then had to have season-ending knee injury.
2009-01-31 18:16:17
145.   bhsportsguy
143 As they said, its hard to tell these things by how the player reacts after the injury. Michael Redd is the latest example of a player who walked off the court on his own and then had to have season-ending knee injury.
2009-01-31 18:26:39
146.   Sam DC
Larry McMurtry is on CSPAN looking a lot like Pat Moynihan.
2009-01-31 18:55:58
147.   Sam DC
Someone needs to make sure the Clippers understand just how embarrassing it would be to lose to the 2009 Washington Wizards.
2009-01-31 19:09:51
148.   fanerman
The Lakers are focused this half.
2009-01-31 19:44:04
149.   I Love LA
The Lakers were much more focused and determined in the 2nd half. Bad news is that they need to prepare life with Andrew Bynum for quite sometime, perhaps the rest of the season.

Negative X-Rays doesn't mean anything with these types of injuries, the MRI will be the main tool. Last year they said 8 weeks and it turned into over 8 months. I am afraid about this year because I am expecting something similar. No Bynum in the playoffs will result in another Finals loss at best.

2009-01-31 19:49:40
150.   weatherman
Just saw Revolutionary Road. How was Leo not nominated?

Sorry for being so off-topic. I'm just upset. He was unbelievable.

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2009-01-31 19:59:05
151.   jasonungar07
He was unbelievable.


Maybe that's why he wasn't nominated. HA HA just joking!

2009-01-31 20:41:58
152.   D4P
According to Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg Times, the Rays are looking at multiyear deals for Dioner Navarro and Willy Aybar


2009-01-31 20:48:52
153.   Tripon

Former Angels farmhand is going to release a book that chronicles(well, more like a tell-all like Torre's current book) his one year in the system. Notable current Angels likely to be mentioned is Joe Saunders, and Erick Aybar, teammates of Matt McCarthy, the author.

2009-01-31 20:50:34
154.   Tripon
Aww, they played the edited version of Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker.

I wanted to see Robin kill the Joker!

2009-01-31 21:08:12
155.   Eric Stephen
I'm going to go out on a limb and say McCarthy's book will sell fewer copies than Torre/Verducci's.
2009-01-31 21:17:17
156.   Tripon
155 Bet it'll be more interesting than Roger Clemens degrading his trainer every five days with liniment .
2009-01-31 21:23:30
157.   Eric Stephen
With Brian Shouse joining Tampa Bay, here is an update on the potential draft order in the sandwich round:

34) Mariners (Ibañez – A)
35) Rockies (Fuentes – A)
36) D-Backs (Hudson – A)
37) Dodgers (Manny – A)
38) Blue Jays (Burnett – A)
39) White Sox (Cabrera – A)
40) Mets (O.Perez – A)
41) Brewers (CC – A)
42) Angels (Tex – A)
43) D-Backs (Cruz – A)
44) Dodgers (Lowe – A)
45) Brewers (Sheets – A)
46) Angels (K-Rod – A)
47) Reds (Affeldt – B)
48) Royals (Grudzielanek – B)
49) Pirates -- (locked in to #49; for not signing #48 last year)
50) Rangers (Bradley – B)
51) D-Backs (Lyon – B)
52) Twins (Reyes – B)
53) Brewers (Shouse – B)
54) Red Sox (Byrd – B)
55) Angels (Garland – B)

Remaining free agents in bold.

There are 9 remaining Type A/B free agents.

2009-01-31 21:24:07
158.   Eric Stephen
Good point. It might be a better book.
2009-01-31 21:24:47
159.   fanerman
154 I've never seen the unedited version.
2009-01-31 21:31:31
160.   Tripon
159 The Joker death scene in the unedited version is great dark humor, and just shocking.
2009-01-31 21:38:24
161.   fanerman
160 I heard the unedited version in general is just more awesome.
2009-01-31 21:41:38
162.   Tripon
161 It is. Just a great movie overall. The funniest thing is that the KidsWB execs wanted to cancel Batman and Superman, and reboot a campier, and lighter version of Batman. Instead, the Batman producers convinced them to make Batman Beyond, which was anything but 'light', most of the time. (Not that it didn't have humor, but a replica of Adam West's Batman, it wasn't.)
2009-01-31 23:55:54
163.   scareduck
Inside-the-park HR derby. Love it. LOVE IT.
2009-02-01 00:39:39
164.   Alex41592
Commercial and play by play free feed of Federer/Nadal at the Australian Open Final. Avoid the chat, hit fullscreen and enjoy.

2009-02-01 04:32:27
165.   Andrew Shimmin
27 - Really? I've had just the opposite reaction. I've probably watched three hours of Cosby reruns in the last month. The later years were still crummy, but the early stuff was good and remains enjoyable. And surely Joe Williams singing the Battle Hymn of the Republic is timeless.

Plus, rice cake jokes. Zing!

2009-02-01 06:34:38
166.   Bumsrap
It is refreshing knowing the Dodgers will begin the year without Lowe, Kent, and Penny. In a different way it is also refreshing not to have Jones on the team any more as well.

Manny will not win a title for the Dodgers if Furcal can't stay healthy and the young core doesn't do even a little more than they did last year. If Furcal, Blake, Loney, Martin, Kemp, Ethier, DeWitt have a good year the Dodgers don't need Manny to win a title.

I will take the draft pick instead of Manny. Maybe Furcal will join Kemp and Ethier in the outfield--that would be fun to watch along with the progression of one of Hu, Abreu, DeJesus.

2009-02-01 06:37:47
167.   CanuckDodger
On another board, someone who received their Baseball America Prospect Handbook already posted the names of the Dodger prospects who were ranked 11 to 31 (31, rather than 30, because people who buy their book from Baseball America directly this year get an insert with a bonus scouting report for one player in every organization). Here they are:

(11). Austin Gallagher, 3B
(12). Ramon Troncoso, RHP
(13). Pedro Baez, 3B
(14). Travis Schlichting, RHP
(15). Steve Johnson, RHP
(16). Xavier Paul, OF
(17). Kyle Russell, OF
(18). Jon Michael Redding, RHP
(19). Tony Delmonico, C/2B
(20). Justin Miller, RHP
(21). Brent Leach, LHP
(22). Jamie Hoffmann, OF
(23). Daigoro Rondon, RHP
(24). Victor Garate, LHP
(25). Javy Guerra, RHP
(26). James Adkins, LHP
(27). Alfredo Silverio, OF
(28). Lucas May, C
(29). Josh Wall, RHP
(30). Jordan Pratt, RHP
(31). Justin Orenduff, RHP

Now, I have to say, I see some really indefensible choices in that list, and equally indefensible omissions. Corner OF Alfredo Silverio was not quite but close to being old for low A at 21, yet he managed to hit only .263/.279/.404, walking only 7 times in 373 AB's. C Lucas May was both an offensive and defensive disaster at Jacksonville. RHP Jordan Pratt walked 67 batters in only 69.1 innings and at age 23 he wasn't young for high A. I could name more but I will relent. Meanwhile pitchers Jesus Castillo and Geison Aguasviva, whom I ranked #14 and #15 on my own list, miss BA's list completely.

2009-02-01 06:54:22
168.   Bob Hendley
166 - Why do you lump Lowe in there? What's so refreshing about not having him around, his badmouthing the West Coast? He put up an ERA+ of 122 when he was here. Granted I didn't want to have to resign him for a zillion years and a trillion dollars, but still. Who would he have been blocking, Stults or Looper?
2009-02-01 07:04:12
169.   CanuckDodger
168 -- Lowe as a person is someone I am glad to be rid of. I think he contributed to the anti-youth attitude in the clubhouse. Every mid-season he was actually the most vocal veteran when it came to saying in the media that young players exist to be traded for veterans. And when you hear talk that Lowe was not happy with the organization I think the youth movement is definitely something he complained about when he talked to Colletti and McCourt. The front office seems happy to see the back of him, and there certainly aren't reasons for that that are about performance.
2009-02-01 07:10:31
170.   dagwich
Not Dodger related but just a word of thanks to those who offered advice for my recent trip to LA -- turned out you guys were a big help. We ended up staying 3 days in WLA with my cousin then 3 nights at a hotel at Western and Hollywood and were able to take the Metro to downtown -- wonderful to take the train into downtown. Dining highlights included suggestions from Marty -- Sapps (boat noodles rock!), Anamaria's at Grand Central Market and Langers pastrami. My wife was battling this lingering cough so we went on a matzo ball/chicken soup tour of LA (Juniors and Langers) and Palm Springs (Manhattan). It worked, she's better.

I can also recommend Groundworks coffee in Hollywood (wow, great coffee) and the Unurban Cafe in SM. Saw Conan O'Brien at the Country Mart at 26th and San Vicente in SM.

Marty or Bob -- what's the big hole in the ground going to be that's across from the Times building? Looked for Bob at the downtown library (didn't see any super tall reference librarians) but managed to enjoy the maps of LA exhibit. That rotunda in the library is beautiful.

Thanks again for the help. Sign Manny already!

2009-02-01 07:16:44
171.   Bob Hendley
169 - OK, but on that basis, let's get rid of Torre and Bowa as well.;)
2009-02-01 07:37:02
172.   CanuckDodger
171 -- Well, we all know that Torre was brought in as a big PR move after we finished 4th in the NL West in 2007. Bowa just came along for the ride at Torre's insistence, and I am sure both McCourt and Colletti were pulling their hair out when Bowa made the statements he did last week. Heck, if not for the fact he is Torre's boy, Bowa would probably be fired by now.
2009-02-01 07:45:06
173.   D4P
Colletti were pulling their hair out

Does not compute.

In other news, it looks like the torch has officially been passed from Roger Federer to Rafael Nadal.

2009-02-01 07:59:52
174.   CanuckDodger
173 -- In Colletti's case I was referring to the moustache.
2009-02-01 08:28:42
175.   underdog
Tracy Woodson alert!

Didn't realize he was now a college coach.

2009-02-01 08:33:46
176.   Bob Timmermann
If you were at the map exhibit, you were just a few steps away from my top secret office at the library. But you would have to have gone through a series of doors similar to the intro of "Get Smart."

The big hole north of the Times building isn't going to be anything I believe. I think someone started construction there and then bailed out.

2009-02-01 08:34:07
177.   Eric Stephen
Has this year's Stanley Wilson / Barret Robbins / Eugene Robinson been revealed yet?
2009-02-01 08:45:38
178.   Bob Timmermann
Federer won one more point than Nadal. Yet lost.

I think a radical change in tennis' scoring system is in order.

Isn't that the normal reaction?

2009-02-01 08:48:51
179.   D4P
If I'm not mistaken, Federer had 1 grand slam title at Nadal's current age. Nadal has 6. With all the talk of Federer overtaking Sampras, Nadal just might be the one to do it.
2009-02-01 08:50:57
180.   Bob Timmermann
But Federer doesn't wear goofy looking shorts.
2009-02-01 08:55:55
181.   Eric Stephen
But Federer does wear his pants backwards!

2009-02-01 08:56:25
182.   D4P
True, though at least Nadal stopped wearing the muscle shirts. Nadal is only 22, and thus only needs 2 grand slams a year for the next 4 years to catch Sampras. That's just the French Open plus one of the other 3, which seems almost a given these days.

At this point, I'll be surprised if Rafa doesn't catch Pistol Pete.

2009-02-01 09:42:26
183.   Young Miss Weisman
2009-02-01 09:45:17
184.   Young Miss Weisman
Ooh, i've never did this in a long time. This
is ∞% cool!
2009-02-01 09:47:50
185.   Young Miss Weisman
2009-02-01 09:49:04
186.   Young Miss Weisman
Don't worry! I'll be back soon!
2009-02-01 09:53:25
187.   das411
Sorry YMW, I think all of the West Coasters are figuring out how to justify rooting for former Ram Kurt Warner later today. or coming up with plots to ensure a 177 happens...
2009-02-01 09:55:29
188.   D4P
Olympic great Michael Phelps has acknowledged "regrettable" behavior and "bad judgment" after a photo in a British newspaper showed him smoking marijuana.
2009-02-01 09:59:47
189.   Xeifrank
179. Possibly, but Federer will over take him first. When all is said and done it Nadal could be ahead of them both. Especially, now that he can win on grass and hard court (3 out of 4 slams).
vr, Xei
2009-02-01 09:59:56
190.   Tripon
Dodgers' Kershaw wants 200 innings

2009-02-01 10:01:26
191.   Xeifrank
Happy Super Bowl Sunday everyone! Our (very small) Super Bowl party well be giving away jelly bean and m&m filled goodie-bags at the end of each quarter. It's a great way to keep my 4yr old daughter interested in what's going on.
vr, Xei
2009-02-01 10:21:53
192.   Andrew Shimmin
191- Isn't it premature to declare the goody-bags a success in advance?
2009-02-01 10:29:40
193.   Xeifrank
192. Hey, we are talking jelly beans and m&ms with a four year old, it's pretty much gauranteed. vr, Xei
2009-02-01 10:33:53
194.   Andrew Shimmin
193- It's going to be, like, five hours between the end of the second quarter and the end of the third. Any bag of candy big enough to hold a four year old's attention that long is big enough to cause major digestive distress by the fourth quarter.

Plus, if the guests leave their bags hanging around (or if there's a central stash somewhere), the high percentage move would be to not let the game distract from candy poaching missions. What sort of candy security precautions have you taken?

2009-02-01 10:37:09
195.   D4P
Any bag of candy big enough to hold a four year old's attention that long is big enough to cause major digestive distress by the fourth quarter

Sounds like they're going to need a whole thing of candy beans...

2009-02-01 10:43:21
196.   Megaballs
Why can't Roger Clemens rub stuff on his own balls like the rest of us?
2009-02-01 10:49:05
197.   D4P
I remember Kevin Gross rubbing sandpaper on his...
2009-02-01 10:55:04
198.   Jon Weisman
196/197-enough of that. NPUT

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