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Oh great calamity,
Ditch of iniquity and tears
How I abhor this place
Its sweet and bitter taste
Has left me wretched, retching on all fours
Los Angeles, I'm yours
Everyone needs to check out the above cartoon recap of the 2004 Dodgers if they haven't seen it already. I just finished laughing uncontrollably...
It's going to be a beautiful day for a ballgame today in SoCal! (That's kind of like the song) I'm thinking about heading out to the stadium to scalp a ticket.
J.D. Drew, alas, has not.
I also have Werth, Penny, Brazoban, and Bradley on my squad.
My prediction for the year: The Dodgers will win the division if Valentin has more HRs than errors this year.
1. Posted by Suffering Bruin
Today's Fact of Choi, SB's favorite player, 2005:
As some of you may know, Choi attended Kwangju Jeil High School in Kwangju province, an area made famous for an uprising that changed South Korea forever.
It was May, 1980. Kwangju had long been a province that gave the authorities headaches, not least because the citizens had a real jones for democracy. One thing led to another, the powers that be closed the schools and the students demonstrated as students are wont to do. Troops were called in to "quell" the demonstration which they tried to do by beating the students over the head with batons.
What the troops perhaps did not count on was that the students would be joined by the ordinary citizens. Before they knew it, the troops were outgunned and they had to retreat.
It went on for nine days. The military sealed off the city from the rest of the country. After gathering their forces, they moved in on day nine. Retaking the city did not take long. Depending on who you believe, anywhere from 200 to 5000 citizens were killed.
The Korean government did everything it could to keep news of the uprising "in house", so to speak. Government controlled news outlets would broadcast diverting entertainments for the next several years while South Korea was run as a police state. One of the "diverting" entertainments came courtesy of the newly formed Korean Baseball Organization, born in 1981, a year after the uprising. It quickly developed a passionate following.
It took a while for democracy to take hold in South Korea and even longer to punish those responsible for the massacre but it did happen. The BBC has a retrospective here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/752055.stm).
As Americans, we learn many things about our nation's history, much of it concentrated in events that happened decades if not centuries ago. I wonder what impact it had on young Hee-Seop Choi to learn that an event of such scale occured within his lifetime, just a year after he was born. If I ever do interview him, that's one of the things I'll be curious about.
Just wanted to say keep up the good work on Choi... Fact of Choi is quickly becoming one of my favorite features of Dodger Thoughts.
really took off around the same time as S.B. mentions.
Really happy to see that the first big move young Drew makes is restoring Nancy Bea to her (hopefully) former prominence.
Hmmm, seems like a good time to petition Eric Enders to move `Jessica' up from #105 to his actual top 100...Eric, do it for the guitar!
What connection does Drew have to Nancy? I just read today that the Dodgers are planning on having Hefley play more (less loud rock music), but is that connected to Drew?
"Kevin Brown is on the disabled list again, so how does that Jeff Weaver/Yhency Brazoban trade look now?"
At the Freeway series I saw a guy with a binder full of them looking for autographs. I wonder if you can buy the prints somewhere in LA.
I just found this story about the artist online... named Choi of course:
http://tinyurl.com/6bl5k
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This was covered in another thread a day or so ago... it's a R-L-R thing.
If he swings at the first pitch or two, the other team might reconsider, now that he's behind in the count 0-1 or 0-2.
In the last three years, Bonds's numbers after a 0-1 count are .326/.452/.708. I'd probably still walk him after 0-1, assuming I thought it was good to walk him at 0-0.
After an 0-2 count, he's still .296/.380/.648 -- this has got to be better than the hitter after Barry, so it seems like it would be in Bonds's interest to swing at two pitches and hope the other team pitches to him. And at 0-2 I'd have to think pretty hard about walking him.
When the #8 hitter gets the IW to get to the pitcher, they should definitely think about this too. 0-1 or 0-2 would really change things.
Baseball people just aren't creative enough.
About a year ago somebody did an analysis on this and reached the conclusion that the only situations in which it makes sense to walk Barry are the 2 outs, 1B open, RISP situations. The 10 percent chance he'll hit a homer is far less damaging than all the free baserunners.
Albert in Hong Kong, what was bonds' reaction?
TODAY'S PREDICTION:
The Weaves goes another strong 8, giving up a solo shot to Durham. Or... Weaves gets a CG while striking out and walking none. (Has that ever happened?)
Dodgers win 5-1.
I don't think it's even a Dodger Stadium record.
Still, I know what you're saying. And in any case, people should definitely think about swinging when it's the #8 hitter.
Wow, this Weaver start is horrific.
I go to pick up the kid from school, I come back and the Giants are doing the Bugs Bunny conga line.
Now it's Woody's turn to blank the Dodgers.
Hang DePodesta!
Is anyone watching the game? What's Weaves' problem?
Someone better inform Jayson Werth. ;)
By the way ESPN's gamecast shows Tucker on second and Izzy on first...
Great programmers over there...
Very belated thanks for your kind comment upthread.
SB
Were the hits against Weaver hard or just bloops?
How dim am I? I was on the phone ready to read the riot act to KFWB before I realized that just maybe the mistake wasn't theirs.
I echo Eric's praise of the Daily Choi. I was going to post earlier, but couldn't think of anything better than, "That was nice."
I found today's entry educational and actually quite touching.
Echoing the praise for S.B. Keep 'em comin'.
We've been discussing some possibilities, but it's certainly not anything exclusive between Tommy and I (that sounds kinda weird, huh?).
I think the best plan is to pick a Friday or Saturday night game to watch at a bar/restaurant somewhere. Anyone who wants to and can make it is free to show up. Casual, cost-effective: if it goes well, we can plan a bigger/more elaborate/expensive outing, or not, or whatever.
Or we could try to actually go to a game.
I second the appreciation for SB's Choi facts of the day, and I repeat them to my Korean friends who might or might not appreciate them as much as me.
//You all forgot your ;
//programming and dodger jokes.. wow..
//REALLY inside
nakamura = the real thing
Our opening day starter just got rocked by a team who has Snow Feliz Alfonzo in the 345. Jesus Christ.
That man, is the MAN
Honestly, I don't have a strong opinion. Probably why I'm not a manager...
Well, Weaver kind of looks like him with that hair, but I think Christ's ability to pitch has been vastly overrated.
Walking on water does not always translate into good pitch location.
I'll let you know my opinion of Weaver staying in after the next three innings are complete.
It could be similar to Lasorda's opinion of Dave Kingman's performance.
Quit smelling your finger, then.
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Reminds me of the last year Mondesi played for the Dodgers. He had switched to center from right. Vin claimed that - I guess he meant Sheff - "Mondy" fielded a ball in right. Understandable... he had been there for years. Next play, swear to god, "Mondy" catches a fly ball in left. Those were some tough years for Vin.
I thought you were referring to senility.
Yes, that way we can have six guys with a 12.03 ERA instead of just five.
You forgot the "rap" at the end of that sentence.
He should wear a 51's shirt under his jersey.
No, it's those mirror shoes they put on Phillips.
The groundball staff is too afraid to throw grounders now that Alex Cora and Adrian Beltre are gone.
Get with it.
Kill me. Kill me now.
On second thought, fire Steve Lyons.
Dunno, the guy just never scares me, I always believe we can and should light him up.
-Hopelessly Optimistic
Both Alfonzo and Tucker's outs were described as "deep".
And it's hard to accuse the Giants of stealing signs when all Weaver was throwing was two pitches anyway -- slow curve and slower curve.
They were pretty deep. :)
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/gamechannel?gid=250412119
Indeed.
I would think that Weaver was hurt, but it seems like you couldn't throw all that breaking stuff hurt. That Vizquel at-bat in the fourth was horrendous. Just him sitting sitting sitting on off speed pitches. More likely that the Giants studied a lot of film and adjusted to what Weaver was doing the other night, while Weaver made no adjustments and got caught.
For whatever reason, their software doesn't work on my work computer. Thanks, though.
Alfonzo is looking a lot better this year.
I mean, what's with Rueter, and why do the Dodgers always succumb to his garbage?
Shouldn't he at least be retiring at some point?
I can't install Flash on my PC at work. I don't know why, but I've tried unsuccessfully more than once.
I think the batters can't pick up the ball because of his Dumbo ears.
He also wants 50% of the profits. :)
Repko gets a gift from Vizquel, and Drew finally gets a hit. Hoo, boy, pinch me, I'm dreaming.
we may miss a bo jackson bat snap or a GS fist pump or a Shawn Green picture perfect DP. whatever we see, Milton will be HOT
show us what us asians are made of
And to score on a pop fly, divine.
Nori, please be a hero.
I sure wish we had that fourth inning back.
Last night the Jacksonville Suns trailed 6-0 in the bottom of the 8th and had been outhit 15-2. Delwyn Young hit a tape-measure solo HR in the 8th. The Suns put up 5 to tie in the ninth on three singles, a walk and two wild pitches. In the 10th Russ Martin doubled in Joel Guzman to win it 7-6.
good at-bat, JD. now it's kent's turn
Technically, they could be sychronized, but you'd have to slow down the Gamecast to do it. You would need to synchronize the data feed and the audio feed using timestamps and then play them back at the same time. A protocol called RTCP could do that (it's part of the RTP spec).
The reason why the audio is slower is because it has to use buffering to cope with the variable delay as packets are sent over the Internet. You adjust the amount of buffering based on observed delays so that playback is smooth. Data, on the other hand, doesn't care -- it can be bursty and this doesn't affect the user's experience. In fact, you WANT to see changes as fast as they occur.
This is probably more than you wanted to know ...
Aha, jasonungar05, you jinxed us by saying slam!
Sorry, someone has to be a patsy, now get back to work!
Think the Giants will be better with those two?
Never get out of your car with the bases loaded, otherwise, we hit into dps.
Imagine the fastest way to make two outs and Jeff Kent.
All off-season, all of my Giants friends up here have been telling me about how many more games the Giants will win this year now that they have Benitez. Give me a break.
I am loving this!!
Now I believe this is our year.
Monday: "The entire Dodger bench is waiting as Kent crosses the plate. I never understood why, when the winning run comes in, they beat the heck out of him?"
Steiner: "Same reason I am going to beat you up after we get off the air."
That is freakin' hilarious.
Not so far.
The Dodgers didn't deserve to win a game in which they allowed 16 hits, but I'm glad they did anyway.
I don't know what Bradley's reaction was, but one of my favorite moments of all time is when Jason Ellison goes all the way to get the ball at the wall, and all he can do is angrily spike it. Loving...every...second...
I just watched it on TIVO again, Bradley's reaction was one of jubiliation. He didn't punch out the center fielder or anything. :)
Hitting refresh again and again on Yahoo has never been so rewarding!
I just gave the law library an earful!
I am so pumped!!!!!
Last year their defensive SS or 3B bobbled it in the Finley Slam game...
Couple years ago their GG Cruz Jr. dropped one.
Wow... talk about a cursed team.
Right here with you, Vinny.
These day games are killing me...
day I can remember.
I'm pretty sure you have the announcers mixed up. (Not that it makes much difference.)
Thank goodness I took my Walkman to work today.
Once again, I left...my glove...in San...Francisco...
Best one liner yet !!
But knowing the stupid TV stations up here in SF, all they will show is SF putting up a bunch of runs.
Outside pitch to Bradley who goes the other way and hits it sharply; halfway between line-drive and very sharp grounder. Probably will score two unless Ellison comes up with hit quickly and gets off a good throw.
Ellison has to backhand the ball as he's charging and it looked like he was thinking throw before catch because the ball took off under his glove and went all the way to the wall.
By the time he got to it, Kent was three yards from home plate.
Hossanah on the highest!
That was amazing.
In a naive way, I love this guy. I agree with Mark, hes entitled to one free freak out.
But for now, I can't wait to get home and watch the game on my TIVO and watch the last play in super slow motion.
Major props to our bullpen today!
It's a damn good thing, or they might be 1-6.
And then a whole lot of silence. He's a master at just shutting his trap and letting the sound and picture do the work.
Nice.
i had a ticket to the game and i gave them away to my friend....
because i had work.
i can't describe how sucky i feel to miss this game. somehow i know that watching the highlights on espn when i get home won't be the same.
Anyone else wonder if Benitez has reverted to his Mets form? It would be an, er, shame, if he didnt' pitch like last year....
"Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! My-ymmuy." -- Eric Cartman
Can't remember a start of a season quite like this. Amazing.
"Interesting Alou puts Ellison in LF instead of CF. Has anyone questioned that before?
Living on a prayer.
by slcgiant on Tue Apr 12, 2005 at 07:06:31 PM EST"
"No good reason exists to use Benitez in this game. In fact closers should never come in to protect 3 run leads unless they need the work.
by kenshin1 on Tue Apr 12, 2005 at 07:17:48 PM EST"
I've never lived in a metropolitan area as large as L.A., so maybe there are traffic issues I can't entirely comprehend, but I can't think of anything that would make me leave a game early, particularly a day game on OPENING DAY.
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B04050LAN1999.htm
Am I missing any?
A buddy of mine said, "No matter where you are, your at least a half-hour away." He lived less than a mile from the stadium. And he was right.
Now you tell me Eric! Truth is I wanted to stay but my buddy insisted on leaving. Now Aug 21, 1990 I plead guilty. But even you would have left at 11-1 in the 8th no?
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B08210LAN1990.htm
Among many keys to this wonderful win, let's not forget two scoreless innings of relief each by Wunsch, Houlton and Carrara.
Wunsch"
I must have already forgotten the ones by Wunsch...
When the Dodgers win the division by 2 games, you can look back on this one as one of the W's that propelled us into the postseason.
I believe it was Tony LaRussa (could be wrong, so don't crucify me) who theorized: a team will win 50 games [in spite of the opponent's best efforts] and lose 50 games [in spite of your team's best efforts] a season; it's your record in the other 62 that matters.
I think today's game and last Friday's game make us 2-0 in the "other 62" games.
Thanks for the photo. It is nice to see Lowe back in a Dodger jersey.
But if he did, maybe we should move over to McCoveyChronicles for a week. Them boys need some stirrin' up.
http://tinyurl.com/3zyw9
http://tinyurl.com/42k6v
http://tinyurl.com/6gs49
This Bradley guy is some kind of clubhouse cancer.
All I can say is, Wow. And, Whoa.
What an amazing comeback.
Anyhow, just shook free at work -- I gather there was some sort of a ballgame played today?
How bad do the Giants fans feel? I just scrolled through McCovey Cove and it's seems reasonable... but check this out. I don't know the etiquette of pinching posts from other sites but I thought this was funny...
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a three-run lead, fresh-start inning, against the effin' Dodgers. This is no Francisco-Cordero-giving-up-a-solo-shot blown save; this is waking up from a night of drunken revelry and spirited celebration to find out that somebody wrote "i (heart) dick" on your forehead in permanent marker.
by lyricalkiller on Tue Apr 12, 2005 at 07:58:16 PM EST
BTW -- Did I see that he has a book? Steve, are you gonna take one for the team and read/review?
Re #342 -- That was a heck of a game - there's a bunch of discussion of it in the Mondesi joins the Braves post from a while back (including my misremembering the # of runs scored by homerun #2 and being roundly corrected). The day I lost my wife to Raaaauuuuulllll . . .
Heck, I'd pay money to see that.
When the game ended, my friend thought the game was still tied. She tells me "Why are we leaving? Are you sick?"
And yes, Ross went 3for4 with a HR today.
What did the ESPN dorks say about it?
Remember that it was Repko on third. He would have been safe easily.
That was the second time I've been to a game with a SF-E9. I saw Roger Cedeno of the Astros end a 16-inning game in Milwaukee once when he dropped a fly ball from Henry Blanco.
Funny thing in the 9th inning. There was a guy, who was pretty drunk (well, that was a significant portion of the crowd). But he was yelling (from way up in the blue) at Ellison about how much he sucked, etc. Except he kept saying "Yeah, I'm talking to you 58. Yeah, you 58!"
But Ellison wears 56. But his heckling fit. Now that guy is going to think that he can scream like an idiot for long periods of time and think it works. However, he was pretty drunk so he may not remember anything.
Great game...the pen looked great. I really like Houlton. Stadium looked really nice, too.
1) The Giants were retired in order just once all game. By Houlton in the 5th and it was 8-9-1.
2) Durham and Grissom both stranded six runners on base
3) Alfonso went from being the star of the game (4 for 5 and starting a key DP) to a footnote.
4) Alou must have little faith in relievers not named Eyre, Brower or Benitez. Eyre faced 8 batters. 3 reached base safely and a fourth on an error. And he gave up no runs.
5) Kent is going to bug me a lot by sliding into first base. I hate players doing that.
Dodger Thoughts needs a good captain to steer the ship.
Enders -
I can't blame people for leaving early on opening day. I left last year, but that was because I had my grandma with me and the sun was taking a toll on her. I didn't leave this year though...
Opening day traffic sucks because the game is a sellout (obviously). At least during the week, once you get out of the stadium, there isn't that much traffic to deal with. On opening day, you the game lets out during rush hour.
Park near the 76 station (to the EAST of it) for quicker getaways on to either the 110 North or South.
If you're headed to West L.A. or the Valley, you're doomed anyway.
I miss the old scoreboard. It was always so easy to keep score with. You had the batters/positions of each team. The batting order (to help with any double switches), and the At bat/Strikes/Balls/outs plus a little box for errors. The scoreboard that they replaced it with is not clear at all when it comes to scoring disputes.
Bob, I saw that guy in the reserve also. My Dad was laughing at him and saying that its amazing how much more people can get away at a sports venue than on a street corner.
I think they spent a little bit too much time reading Plaschke and Simers during the offseason. It wasn't a big thing, but they had signs up saying Boycott McCourt and DePo (or something to that effect).
What an amazing game. It's great to hear feedback from people who were there.
Also the auxiliary scoreboards can't display ERA that are over 9.99 correctly. At one point Scott Eyre had an ERA of 0.10.
If you think about the math, it's really hard to have an ERA of 0.10.
You go to the game, you have a good time, you're probably out right now eating dinner with your family or something, and yet you cannot get out of your mind the fact that hundreds of people like us are sitting in front of their computers, drooling, waiting for you to stop by and impart some Yodaesque words of wisdom.
But hey, no pressure, Jon. ;)
You didn't happen to see what Hoffman was doing, did you? They didn't show on TV.
One graphic on DiamondVision mentioned that Cesar Izturis tied a record held by Bill Russell.
The guy, in all seriousness, turns to his friend next to him and says, "But Bill Russell was a basketball player..."
It looked like Hoffman wanted to challenge Tucker's arm.
I assume that the official scorer must have called down to the Dodgers dugout to ask about that.
Or maybe the guy just guessed.
Or he has Milton Bradley in his fantasy league and wanted to boost his BA.
The most surprising part of #105, BTW, is that there was a record held by Bill Russell in the first place. Other than, of course, worst career winning percentage by an LA manager, which Izturis isn't ready to challenge yet.
And while I'm on that topic, a random prediction: Alex Cora will someday manage the Dodgers.
There were some comments by fans about the renovations. But the writers (Wharton and Bolch) also had a quote from a sports marketing person who said that any changes to a traditional park are disliked at first and the key is to see if the fans keep coming and if people still dislike the changes at the end of the season.
I still think the recorded music was a bit too loud. And we need more Nancy Bea!
Even if the guy was a little young to remember him as a player, it wasn't that long ago that Billy was the manager.
It was a touching moment when he tied the mark.
"I doubt that the Brewers have the money to sign Sheets long term. He has been a solid pitcher, and Brewer ace, since 2001, and had a monster season last year. I think the Brewers will trade him for prospects this eason or next. I am hoping they take a pakage of James Loney, Edwin Jackson, and Joel Hanrahan."
Me too.
Will the Dodgers be facing Sheets next week? Will that also be our first taste of Steiner and Lyons on TV?
The announcers confuse me. I keep thinking I'm going to hear them for part of the game on TV. Then I don't. The non-Scully teams do home radio and away TV?
If the Pirates can sign Tyler Houston and James Baldwin, they'll become the Dan Evans All Stars.
Buster Olney has knocked him out of the number 2 spot for columnists I loathe.
The DHL tape on the bullpen was shocking if not appalling, but the removal of the murals on the outfield wall to make way for advertising definitely stinks. I don't mind finding new revenue streams, but not at the expense of something I thought was really cool. Never saw anything like that in other ballparks. Oh well. It ain't like it's going to stop me from going out to the ballpark, but it's irksome nonetheless.
Baby steps, people. Baby steps.
You ever feel like Ted Knight in that scene from "Caddyshack" when he comes into the country club and sees the men playing cards and says "Don't you have homes?"
"Actually, I don't really mind Olney. He's wrong about most everything, but at least he's open-minded enough to allow for the possibility he might be proven wrong. And he's got a much better way with words than a certain unnamed columnist currently on vacation."
Thanks, Frazier.
1st off: eric enders, props for the decemberists ref. also, i second the props to SB for his fact of choi. i'm also a choi apologist, so it's nice to have some good company.
i don't really understand leaving the game early unless you're really in a hurry; but if you're going to be in a hurry, why go to a baseball game in the first place? instead of sitting in my car for 45 minutes waiting to get out, i'd rather hang out a little longer in lovely dodger stadium. the traffic going there is horrible though. is there a good way to get to the stadium from the south? the 101 is horrible, the 5 is horrible, the 110 is horrible. i ended up getting off downtown and making my way through echo park, and i still couldn't get in until the we were already down a run.
how on EARTH did it happen that the most hopeless of castoffs such as dave ross and daryle ward, both (apparently) magically learned how to hit once they donned pirate uniforms?! how??
this phenomenon must somehow also be related to kirk rueter and russ ortiz.
Since I almost always go to Dodger Stadium from the Pasadena Freeway traffic usually isn't a problem.
The traffic along Academy Road tends to be the least intense. It's just hard to find.
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I don't -- maybe we should switch places. Enders the beer-swilling slob, Timmermann the master of arcane knowledge.
where was the decemberists reference? i looked for it, couldn't find it. picaresque is amazing.
"Injuries
- *Outfielder Milton Bradley (soreness) played in Tuesday's game against San Francisco."
Yeah, I should say so.
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