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Dodger pitcher Jeff Weaver, scheduled to face the Padres on Sunday, started six games against them in 2004. In all six games, the opposing pitcher for San Diego was Adam Eaton. The Padres won four of the six games.
Eaton and Weaver are scheduled to face each other again at Dodger Stadium on Sunday, though the Padres could conceviably skip fifth starter Tim Redding and throw Eaton on Saturday.
The results from 2004:
April 7, 2004
at Los Angeles: Dodgers 2, Padres 1
Eaton: eight innings, four hits, one run, one walk, three strikeouts, no decision
Weaver: seven innings, eight hits, one run, one walk, six strikeouts, no decision
April 13, 2004
at San Diego: Padres 8, Dodgers 3
Weaver: 3 2/3 innings, eight hits, six runs, one walk, three strikeouts, loss
Eaton: seven innings, six hits, two runs, no walks, six strikeouts, win
July 25, 2004
at Los Angeles: Padres 3, Dodgers 0
Eaton: seven innings, one hit, no runs, two walks, three strikeouts, win
Weaver: seven innnings, six hits, two runs, one walk, five strikeouts, loss
July 30, 2004
at San Diego: Dodgers 12, Padres 3
Weaver: eight innings, four hits, one run, two walks, six strikeouts, win
Eaton: 3 2/3 innings, nine hits, seven runs, two walks, two strikeouts, loss
September 16, 2004
at Los Angeles: Padres 3, Dodgers 0
Eaton: seven innings, five hits, no runs, one walk, six strikeouts, win
Weaver: seven innings, seven hits, three runs, one walk, three strikeouts, loss
September 21, 2004
at San Diego: Padres 9, Dodgers 4
Weaver: 4 1/3 innings, nine hits, seven runs, three walks, one strikeout, loss
Eaton: five innings, four hits, two runs, two walks, five strikeouts, win
Does Weaver have a secretary named Lincoln and Eaton have a secretary named Kennedy?
http://tinyurl.com/63hjz
How come none of us are this creative? I'm thinking a spoof on "Tradition" with Bill Plascke as Tevya, singing his heart out about the value of tradition, as his dream team loses 162 in a row to DePo's MoneyBallers...
That said, past history really can't be much of a guide to future performance. This Dodger team is just too different. Even the stadium and the laundry have changed, and didn't someone say this will be throwback night, to boot? With any luck, Eaton won't even recognize the opponent as the Dodgers...
In the world of major league relief pitching, many pitchers have found it to their advantage to use their physical appearance to intimidate and/or psych out the competition. This can include growing a goatee or fu manchu mustache, sporting bizarre sideburns like ex-Dodger Mike James, or just looking like a mean SOB in general (see Benitez, Armando).
As the following photograph attests, Steve Schmoll is not one of these pitchers:
http://www.agnr.umd.edu/users/Bioreng/schmoll.gif
Gary Sheffield just got into a confrontation with a fan in Boston. It was pretty minor but I'm amazed the ESPN announcers are not giving ANY blame to Sheff. A triple down the line was rolling along the wall, fans were reaching down to get the ball, one apparently touched Sheffield, he shoved the fan also knocking down the woman next to him. Sheffield then threw the ball in and went back to confront the fan but luckily a security guard jumped in and it ended there. Maybe I'm carrying a chip on my shoulder for Milton but I think if it had been him the announcers would have a different opinion. It'll be interesting to see if there's any fallout.
Eric, good luck with the Schmoll fact of the day. I'm looking forward to it. A little advice--do not go for the everyday thing. Try to do it once a game--that's what I"m doing even though I started before the season--and try to take it as a personal challenge. Ignore family members and loved ones who say there must be something better to do with your time.
Yeah, I'll check out the Sheffield thang but I tire of ESPN's baseball coverage being about two teams: the Yankees and the not-Yankees a.k.a. the Red Sox (apologies to TBogg for theft of line).
I haven't seen it yet because the TV is being held hostage. Did a fan really throw an uppercut?
I must admit, though, it is fun reading the comments over there after a Dodger victory over the Giants. A little schadenfreude perhaps.
"Sheffield was fielding Jason Varitek's two-run triple along the right-field fence in the eighth inning when a fan swung a short uppercut in his direction and appeared to graze the side of the slugger's face with his right arm." (ESPN--boldface is mine)
I agree Dodger Thoughts is home - a wonderful refuge from all of the Giants talk up here.
Sticking with the Cheers theme from earlier, perhaps we can have some sort of competition between Dodger Thoughts and McCovey Chronicles ala Chees vs. Gary's Tavern.
What's the deal with the Stadium Club? I (actually, my brother) bought tickets on Dodgers.com through the season ticket exchange thing and apparently, we get to go to the Stadium Club as well. Obviously, I've never been.
No sense in looking something up if you can get somebody to tell you the answer.....
But the good folks at http://www.retrosheet.org can provide a lot of info.
The chances of Eaton and Weaver meeting so many times again this year are much less because of the new schedulers for baseball. Last year, the Dodgers played the Padres in six different series. Each time the two teams met, the Dodgers would then play Colorado while the Padres would play San Francisco. So the teams always stayed on the same rotation. And the Weaver-Eaton matchup never varied.
But this year, there is a little more variety. Although 5 of the Dodgers' first 7 games have been against the Giants, the schedule gets more variation. So after the Padres, the Dodgers go to Milwaukee, then to San Diego and Colorado, then back home for Arizona, Colorado, and Washington.
There are some weird things in the schedule. The Pirates don't visit L.A. for the first time until 9/23. By then, the Dodgers and Giants won't face each other anymore.
Brad Penny actually had a decaf cappucino with a dash of cinnamon. Soy milk too.
(Hey, I'm supposed to be Frasier).
1. That the fan made contact with Sheffield was clearly unintentional. This, in my view, is beyond dispute. Not only was he not looking in the right direction, but did you see how surprised he looked when it happened? No way he's trying to hit Sheffield. No way in the world.
2. What he WAS trying to do is less clear. There are two plausible options. One is that he was going for the ball, and was either too drunk to come close, or was not leaning over far enough to see that the ball was on the ground and not in the air. The other possibility is that he started to reach for the ball and changed his mind when he saw it was unreachable. At first I thought maybe he was trying to knock Sheffield's hat off, but this is impossible because, as previously stated, he wasn't looking the right way. I think he was really just too drunk to know which way was up.
3. Despite not intentionally hitting Sheffield, the fan's ejection was proper because he attempted to interfere with a ball in play. I don't know if he was arrested, but he shouldn't have been.
4. Sheffield should also have been ejected; the umpires blew this one big time. No matter what the provocation, you don't throw a punch at a fan, period. End of story. Sheffield was not defending himself; he was retaliating. There's a difference. Sheffield should be suspended for a few games, probably 3-5 would be appropriate.
5. Security-dude needs a raise.
6. Teams are only asking for trouble like this when they fail to consistently enforce the rules and eject fans who interfere with the ball.
7. Sheffield had no way of knowing the fan's actions were unintentional. Still, this does not excuse the punch.
8. Throw the ball in first, THEN start punching people, ya moron!
9. The official scorer should have charged Sheffield with an error, as Varitek doesn't make it to third if Sheffield doesn't confront the fan. Shoulda been a double and advances to third on E-9.
"I heard he wanted coffee. "
I'm guessing you discarded two other responses before you wrote that one.
I would add that it's pretty clear the other fan didn't "toss" a beer onto Sheffield but instead was bumped by the woman next to him.
I remember some years ago Kenny Easley in a UCLA football game--I think against Ohio State--made a spectacular play breaking up a pass. His momentum carried him across the sideline and he started showboating. One of the older OSU fans gave him a shove. Easley shoved back and got kicked out.
"Was he provoked?", asked Terry Donahue.
"Doesn't matter," replied the referee.
I think Jon did a quick survey a couple of weeks back. I recall one of the posters was in his early teens but I forget the exact age.
It would sound better if the Gipper were saying it.
Is it just me, or are teams generally a lot more forgiving in the area of interfering with balls in play than they used to be? When I was a kid that would have been an immediate ejection, no questions asked. Now it seems like it's merely winked at, unless it changes the outcome of the game (a la Jeffrey Maier).
My theory -- and it may be complete BS -- is that as the prices of front-row seats have gone up exponentially, teams are more reluctant to anger their wealthier fans by ejecting them.
I don't know how the new seats will affect that. From my looks at them, they are close to the foul lines, but the way they are angled makes it less likely that a ball will roll alongside of them. Part of the new seats have ad boards in front of them, so it's harder to reach over I think.
Of course once the ball reaches the corner, you're facing the same situation that Sheffield faced in Boston. Low fence and ample opportunities for the fans to lean over.
Same thing can happen in the RF corner in Anaheim. And Reggie Sanders can tell you whether or not those Thunder Stix hurt.
The outfield corner seats of the field level are actually a pretty hairy area to sit in. People buy those seats (which are usually not sold to season ticket holders) because they want to do some heckling (to put it politely). I won't sit over there. But if you give that section a lot of beer, a bad play in the outfield (like Milton Bradley dropping a fly ball), and a long game, and you've got a recipe for trouble.
Does anyone know if the new seats along the field level have waiter service? Or is that just in the seats behind home plate?
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Yeah, but a couple of years ago they put that cement step underneath it, making it about a foot higher. And that one foot made a lot of difference as far as people reaching onto the field.
I haven't paid attention yet to what they did with it this year.
My theory -- and it may be complete BS -- is that as the prices of front-row seats have gone up exponentially, teams are more reluctant to anger their wealthier fans by ejecting them.
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I agree Eric. I felt bad for the poor slob who had to go into the witness protection program after he interfered with the Cubs shot at the world series. Then I got over it. Idiot!
I have ALOT more sympathy for anyone on the field than for any fan. Consider Tom Gamboa. The umpires, coaches and players are sitting ducks, and have no idea if someone on the field or close to it has any intention of harm. I think if a fan is on the field he is fair game, short of death.
There has always been tons of security at Dodger Stadium, but they do a pretty good job at being unobtrusive. Makes a lot of difference in the overall atmosphere, in my mind.
Langhorne, good lawyerin' there. You're absolutely right that disciplining is in order for Sheffield.
1. NOT the gem thrown by Livian Hernandez, taking a 1-hit shutout into the Ninth, with basically nothing out of the infield all game til he ran out of gas after a 10-pitch walk to Luis Gonzalez.
2. NOT Vinny Castilla's almost cycle, where he came up needing just a single, got a standing O from the crowd, and was immediately plunked on the first pitch by Lance Cormier.
3. NOT the F-16 flyover, NOT the ceremonial medallion, NOT the Presidential First Pitch
4 NO -- THE BEST THING was looking down in my souveneir program and finding a crisp, fun feature by our own Eric Enders describing eight key team moves in baseball history. (Sorry, don't have the title with me.) Nice job and congrats Eric. (And the very best part of all that was I got to say to my boss and companions, "Hey, I know that guy. Well, I mean, I don't exactly know him. It's from the internet. Wel, no there's nothing wierd about it. Well nothing too wierd . . .") You've now armed me to start referring to the Orioles as the ex-Brewers, which will really irk some of my pals.
Hey! Nice green and red no fly warning lights (visions of the the seagulls in `The Birds' homing in on them).
No kisses from Morgana for you, Sushirabbit!
Does she at least have a daughter who can continue the legacy? ;)
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/30657_morganna10.shtml
"I wish there was a game tonight. I'm bored."
Sounds like an interesting piece. Since the rest of us weren't at that game, and since you are, after all, the author, would you mind posting it, or at least highlights of it, here? Like I said, it sounds like a good read.
After reading a P-I profile of herself on Friday, Morganna Roberts Cottrell left a message at the newspaper the next day.
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The word `profile' was exactly the right one to use...
How's the atmosphere at RFK? Good place to see a ballgame?
However, anyone who would like me to e-mail them a copy (unfortunately in MS Word, without all the cool pictures) can drop me a msg at enders((AT))aol.com.
There were an incredible number of glitches last night. Folks waited to get past the metal detectors for 40 minutes to an hour. Most concession stands had long periods where they were out of food -- "Hot Dogs'll be ready in 7 minutes". Some crculating vendors (e.g., in my section) had warm plasti-bottles of beer. Scoreboard was loopy -- wrong balls and strikes or no balls or strikes posted at all. Some scoreboards said 6-0 when in fact it was 5-0. Then some actually went up to 11 literally -- they posted the score 11-3 Nationals in the Ninth. Some key tunnels down to field level seats were locked, bottlenecking traffic.
BUT it just didn't matter at all. The field was beautiful, the ballpark feels relatively cozy for such a big place. I wasn't in the upper deck, but I've been there for soccer and it's not too distant from the field. They've got a lot of $10 and $7 seats. I like it.
One oddity -- the whole outfield from pole to pole is just a low fence and then a tall green wall with upper deck seats on top. It's attractive from the infield, and batter have said it's a great backdrop. But no fan can catch a home run unless it's like 475 or more feet. That's a little too bad. Although it looks like what they're going to do is, every time there's a Nationals home run, they pick a random fan who gets a ball autographed by the player who hit it. Nice idea.
Something I noticed, I was listening on NPR this morning and they were doing a piece on the Nationals game. They played tape of the PA announcer saying "Ok, Washington, here it is. You've waited 34 years for this. etc.." It was weird, because the announcer's voice had no excitement. It sounded like he was trying to sound excited, but even more like he was trying to tell the fans "you better be excited, Washington, this is a big deal." Like he was talking to a bunch of children.
Anyway, besides the fallacious comments, the only thing that bothers me about this incident is Sheffield's self-congratulatory remarks about how he restrained himself. He's talking like the guy took a swing at him with a pipe wrench for God sake, when it looks like he probably only grazed his hat. If I was the fan in question, I might sue the Yankees for slander (just for fun of course); every report out there this morning is repeating that the guy "hit" Sheffield. From the replays that I've seen, I would say that's questionable.
So I have more of a problem with Sheffield's post-game reaction, than his reaction during the actual incident. To respond with a push in a situation like that is a pretty natural reaction. He probably should've walked away after the play was over, but since the situation didn't escalate I won't fault him that. I also agree with the raise for the security guard, just the simple act of getting in between people goes along way in helping diffuse a potentially ugly incident.
Maybe that was 3 cents.
I am going to finish every one of my posts with my plea for Jon's permission to be Harry the Con Man. I have a 2 year old in my house, so I know how to be persistent.
"On opening day, more than 1,500 Dodger employees were instructed to park on nearby residential streets and at Elysian Park, or take public transportation to alleviate the problem, Dodger Vice President John Olguin said."
I hope they reimbursed them if they took public transporation.
Regarding your original post... This is a result of the unbalanced schedule, which is starting to bother. For all its benefits--games down the home stretch between the contenders and throughout the season for traditional rivalries--by the end of the season, I'm pretty sick of seeing Adam Eaton, not to mention Craig Counsell, Marquis Grissom, Preston Wilson, Ryan Klesko, Mike Koplove, Neifi Perez, Jamey Wright....
That and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee.
Since were dropping esoteric references, I will dismiss your Kantian intention and raise you one theory of Mill's utilitarianism. I don't much care what the guy's motivation was, I just care about the result. From the replays I have seen, he didn't hit Sheffield. End of story.
As for Harry, I don't think two people asked, I think it was just me asking twice.
Your legal reference would be true if this incident rose to the level of legal violation, but I doubt that it does (partially confirmed by the fact that the guy was ejected but not arrested). What are they going to charge the guy with - attempted dislodgement off a right fielder's hat?
# 42. by Sam DC
Well, I've always aspired to be Harry and since he's unclaimed, I'm taking him until hooted off the board for doing so.
But Sam's guess was incorrect. Care to take a stab?
Because they have good sinuses.
Second-chance question. This should be easier. Two possible answers. From the same episode:
Why did Coach scratch his nose?
Coach: Hello? (to everyone in the bar)
Hey, is there an Ernie Pantusso here?
Sam: Coach, that's you.
1) "Because it itches."
2) It was an old baseball sign that Harry had Coach use to defeat the other con artist they were playing poker with.
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