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April 18 Open Chat: Drew Rests
2005-04-18 15:11
by Jon Weisman

Tonight's game

Some TV channel information can be found here.

To face Brewers lefthander Chris Capuano, Jim Tracy selects Jason Repko batting second, Milton Bradley batting third, Olmedo Saenz batting fifth, Norihiro Nakamura batting sixth, and Jason Grabowski batting eighth. Hee Seop Choi sits, and J.D. Drew, who has perhaps begun to hit, also gets a rest. Tonight's Dodger bench has no right-handed batters.

The Dodgers have a day game Tuesday following this night game - if the theory is that Drew needs periodic rest, this might be as good a game as any to sit him. Is that the theory?

Comments (413)
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2005-04-18 16:03:33
Well Jon I feel like an idiot for trying to do your job for you on the other post. I think that theory is correct especially considering the overnight travel. Sleeping on a plane can be hard on those knees, I guess.

Unrelated, but I saw that the AN blog had a diary from Grabowski before he was traded. I know this might be greedy but any chance he might want to do one for DT. Just a thought.

2005-04-18 16:05:49
2.   bigcpa
Here I was just about to start pumping Drew's 11-game Iron Man streak. Hopefully he's down to pinch-hit in a close one.
2005-04-18 16:12:32
3.   Jon Weisman
#1 -

Tyler actually suggested offering to help arrange The Grabowski Diaries for me a year ago, when Grabowski came south. I'm not dead set against it, but it's not really a top priority for me right now.

Athletics Nation is, without a doubt, an incredible place, but I think our missions might be slightly different. From what I understand, Tyler doesn't want to be a filter between the members of the team and the readers. I'm not sure I feel the same way.

But in general, my main issue is time. With more time, I'd do more interviews - plain and simple. I'd do all kinds of things. If this site ever became my living, whole new worlds would open up.

2005-04-18 16:30:12
4.   Jon Weisman
Oh - and, by the way, I don't always get to talk about the pregame lineup. Just good timing on my end for once.
2005-04-18 16:33:23
5.   Steve
Yes, it took about five minutes for me to hate the FSN Wis-can-sin guys. Everything is a "surprise." The sun rising in the morning is a "surprise." Mute buttons were made for this.
2005-04-18 16:38:50
6.   Steve
By the way, even in the 70s the Dodgers didn't rely on their offense (Garvey, Cey, Smith, Baker, etc.), and this 2005 team doesn't rely a lot on the long ball (15 this year). It's like they know they're hoary cliches, but they just can't break away from them.
2005-04-18 16:39:16
7.   joekings
Who is on the radio with Rick Monday?
2005-04-18 16:43:36
8.   jtshoe
"Tonight's Dodger bench has no right-handed batters."
What about Weaver? He's hitting .333, with a .777 OPS.
Seriously though, what's the deal with Valentin. Can't he bat right?
2005-04-18 16:45:01
9.   Jon Weisman
Actually, fair points on both counts, jtshoe...
2005-04-18 16:45:57
10.   Jim Hitchcock
Uh, what's up with that call, Steiner?
2005-04-18 16:46:04
11.   Jon Weisman
Kent was swinging 3-0, says Gameday. Did he foul off a good one?
2005-04-18 16:46:23
12.   Jim Hitchcock
Joeking, that would be Al Downing.
2005-04-18 16:46:30
13.   Steve
I could be mistaken but I believe the Milwaukee analyst just referred to Olmedo Saenz as a "young kid."
2005-04-18 16:47:36
14.   Steve
Jon, yes. Inside part of the plate IIRC
2005-04-18 16:48:05
15.   jtshoe
But doesn't Valentin have something odd about what pitchers he faces opposite? I thought I heard on one of the games that he wasn't really a 100% switch hitter.
2005-04-18 16:48:52
16.   Jon Weisman
Yes, that's right - he picks and chooses - but at least he could potentially bat righty if the situation called for it.
2005-04-18 16:50:41
17.   Jim Hitchcock
Valentin prefers batting left on hard throwing lefthanders.
2005-04-18 16:51:13
18.   Suffering Bruin
#7 - that's Al Downing.



If the hitting doesn't work out, there's always American Idol.

With the Cubs, Choi would spend a lot of time in the Korean restaurant F.D.L.T. on the North Side. One of his favorite things was to sing karaoke. "I like love songs, ballads," Hee Seop said. "I like J-Lo. I like to sing. Too much baseball, I get headache. I go sing, and the next day, baseball is more comfortable.''

Somebody find this man a Karaoke bar!!

2005-04-18 16:51:38
19.   bigcpa
Off topic here but can we please sign Bradley to a 4yr/$25M deal post haste? I don't want him to even catch the aroma of free agency.
2005-04-18 16:52:11
20.   Bob Timmermann
I think it's the other way around. Valentin bats lefty against guys like Kirk Rueter. If he faced Randy Johnson, he would bat right handed.

His right handed homer was off of Jason Christensen, who merely just pitches poorly.

2005-04-18 16:53:27
21.   Suffering Bruin
Don't be fooled by the rocks he's got, he's still just Hee-Seop from the block...
2005-04-18 16:54:33
22.   Sushirabbit
Cora would've got a 10 from the Russian judge on that DP.
2005-04-18 16:55:09
23.   Jim Hitchcock
Okay, that makes sense.
2005-04-18 16:55:44
24.   Jon Weisman
2005-04-18 16:56:02
25.   Icaros
I will now forever dream of the night when Dodger Thoughts posters have a karaoke outing with Hee-Seop Choi as guest of honor.
2005-04-18 16:56:26
26.   Steve
If I wasn't a Dodger fan, I would have been very amused by that pickoff.
2005-04-18 16:57:14
SB, those quotes are too funny to be true.
Re #19, good comment, you got my vote.
2005-04-18 16:57:24
28.   Jon Weisman
Looks like the Steinbrenner pep talk worked. :)

Rodriguez and Martinez have both hit grand slams in a 13-run second inning...

2005-04-18 16:58:16
29.   Jon Weisman
Oops - A-Rod's wasn't a grand slam. But the 13 holds up.
2005-04-18 17:00:33
30.   Jim Hitchcock
Sounds like that second inning was a pent up reaction to the ALCS.
2005-04-18 17:02:12
31.   Steve
I love this team's patience. Capuano just threw Pitch 37. It will come tonight.
2005-04-18 17:02:36
32.   adg
It's so nice that someone else is pitching an Ishii look-alike (pitch-alike) against the Dodgers instead of for them.
2005-04-18 17:03:30
33.   Suffering Bruin
Steinbrenner will, of course, take full credit. Never mind the offense entering today's game was averaging slightly more runs per than last season's team.

Anywho, I'm on channel 650 DirectTv and I've got Steiner/Lyons. I noticed a lot of the fans dressed as empty seats...

2005-04-18 17:03:38
34.   Jacob L
Brass Monkey karaoke bar is in the heart of Korea town on Wilshire. Might be a good place for our DT get together, too. How about a DT get together with "Special Guest . . Hee Seop Choi."
2005-04-18 17:03:46
35.   alex 7
odalis is due!! don't let those other pitchers punk you around the batting cage anymore.
2005-04-18 17:03:51
36.   Jon Weisman
Didn't see the pickoff. Dodgers ran themselves out of the inning early?
2005-04-18 17:05:20
37.   Mark
Ladies and gentlemen, the quote of the year.

Hee-Seop Choi: Too much baseball, I get headache.

2005-04-18 17:05:38
38.   Jim Hitchcock
Saenz was utterly frozen.
2005-04-18 17:06:10
39.   Bob Timmermann
For a minute there, I thought Chan Ho Park had joined the D-Rays.
2005-04-18 17:09:08
40.   Eric L
Steinbrenner will, of course, take full credit.

On his radio show today, Dan Patrick thought that the timing of the "memo" was a bit opportunistic.

His point was that releasing the memo before playing the Devil Rays was a little self-serving.

2005-04-18 17:10:10
41.   Jon Weisman
Here come the Devil Rays! It's 13-1.

Two innings, 20 pitches for Perez.

2005-04-18 17:10:37
42.   Daniel Zappala
Looks like another complete game opportunity here.
2005-04-18 17:10:45
43.   Jon Weisman
Some deep fly outs, though.
2005-04-18 17:12:03
44.   Ben P
One thing I like about the Extra Innings package is seeing all the random local commercials. For example, that Wisconsin lottery looks like a pretty good deal. I think I'll cash out my 401k
2005-04-18 17:12:50
45.   Jim Hitchcock
Did Lyon's comment on Izzy make any sense?
2005-04-18 17:12:53
46.   Jacob L
Did he actually write a new memo, or did he just pull one out of the file cabinet under "Team struggling in April?" Just have to make sure to delete any references to Mike Pagliarulo and Dave Collins.
2005-04-18 17:13:26
47.   Ben P
2005-04-18 17:13:30
48.   Steve
I told you we'd get ours.
2005-04-18 17:13:48
49.   Bob Timmermann
Steinbrenner has to mention "True Yankees" in any disapproving memo.

What is a "True Yankee"?

2005-04-18 17:13:56
50.   Suffering Bruin
He didn't hit that too hard. Sheesh...
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2005-04-18 17:14:01
51.   Im So Blue
Now it's Kent's turn.
2005-04-18 17:14:37
52.   Daniel Zappala
Wow, this team is on fire.
2005-04-18 17:14:54
53.   DXMachina
Oh my!
2005-04-18 17:14:56
54.   Daniel Zappala
Or do we somehow face bad pitching everywhere we go?
2005-04-18 17:15:15
55.   bigcpa
I'd like to reiterate post #19 and add $2M.
2005-04-18 17:15:20
56.   Suffering Bruin
Jim, it did not. I think it's been Steve's weakest moment from what I've heard. He's not nearly as annoying in this game as he has been on Fox, IMHO.
2005-04-18 17:16:34
57.   Mark
Save some for October, boys... holy crap.
2005-04-18 17:16:35
58.   Jon Weisman
It was BigCPA who pointed out that the Dodgers missed Schmidt, Peavy, and Sheets in consecutive series, right?
2005-04-18 17:16:50
59.   Suffering Bruin
What the... I leave the TV to post and Bradley goes yard?!? LOVING THIS!!
2005-04-18 17:17:16
60.   Spageticus
I swear I called those. Not out of wishful thinking but pure prophecy.
2005-04-18 17:17:51
61.   Eric L
What is a "True Yankee"?

Was Babe Ruth even a true Yankee?

The answer to your question is Derek Jeter. Mantle, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Berra (amongst others) aren't even in the same league as Jeter when it comes to true Yankees. He is the truest (is that even a word?) of them all.

2005-04-18 17:19:33
62.   Sushirabbit
so what do playoff & ws tickets cost these days anyway?
2005-04-18 17:19:48
63.   Jim Tracy
I do not like Al Downing or Steve Lyons. Steiner has been surprisingly listenable (since we are making up words).
2005-04-18 17:20:58
64.   alex 7
for those of us following the game online, what did Lyons say?

And maybe some details on those HRs? Not watching it today, I feel like I'm begging for crumbs. =)

2005-04-18 17:21:00
65.   joekings
I know this can't go on forever, but man is it ever fun!
2005-04-18 17:21:20
66.   Jim Tracy
btw, alex rodriguez is adding more useless RBIs and HRs to his season total. Seriously, I'd love to see how many of his RBIs actually matter at the end of the season.
2005-04-18 17:21:26
67.   Sushirabbit
Or do we somehow face bad pitching everywhere we go?

Hopefully, that Q will be in upcoming opposing pitcher's minds, too.

2005-04-18 17:21:39
With Repko showing he deserves to stay in the big leagues, what do we do when Werth comes back? Who goes down when Werth and Perez are off the DL? I know its a problem we are lucky to have, but a decision will have to be made at some point.
2005-04-18 17:21:46
69.   Jacob L
What is a True Brewer, and who the truest? Gorman Thomas?
2005-04-18 17:21:57
70.   Jim Hitchcock
I find truest listenable in the truest sense of the word...
2005-04-18 17:23:13
71.   Mark
"Who goes down when Werth and Perez are off the DL?"

Can Werth play 1B? Can Repko? There's your answer.

2005-04-18 17:23:37
72.   Daniel Zappala
re: #66

Isn't this one of the points of sabermetrics -- that all hits and runs are equal? this makes the pythagorean theorem etc work. Do we discount any hits or runs that come when a team is up by a certain amount? Do we translate this down into an equivalent "meaningful" batting average? Not saying this is right -- just don't know that anyone has ever figured this out.

2005-04-18 17:23:55
73.   Jacob L
#68, you meant when Penny or Alvarez comes off, right? My vote is for, 1) Grabowski, 2) Wunsch, 3) I don't know.
2005-04-18 17:24:52
Mark, I have not given up on Choi yet.
2005-04-18 17:25:10
75.   Jim Hitchcock
Lyons made a point that Izzy managed to do a good job hitting right handed (which is normal for him), then went on to say that Izzy was smart to continue his switch hitting experiment of a couple of years ago, even though Tracy was encouraging him to only bat right handed.
2005-04-18 17:25:13
76.   FirstMohican
Odalis' first K!!!
2005-04-18 17:25:14
77.   Jim Tracy
When Werth comes back, I think we should trade Repko while his value his high. I know a lot of people would disagree, but a lot of teams would be willing to give up a good reliever + prospect for him, I'd think. Is that an unpopular opinion?
2005-04-18 17:25:35
78.   Ben P
If no one else has mentioned it, there's a good DePo-sympathetic piece here.;_ylc=X3oDMTBpa2lpNnFzBF9TAzk1ODYxNzc3BHNlYwN0bQ--?slug=cnnsi-depodestasreven&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns

2005-04-18 17:25:41
79.   Eric L
The "truest" Brewer is Bernie Brewer. He encompasses the essence of the Brewers.

Some might argue that Robin Yount is the truest Brewer, but I would tell them that they are wrong.

2005-04-18 17:25:55
80.   joekings
I think he meant Antonio Perez, but I could be wrong.
2005-04-18 17:26:51
81.   Steve
Trade. Maybe. Trade for a reliever? Blah.
2005-04-18 17:28:14
82.   Fearing Blue
It seems that Bradley can only hit a homerun if the guy ahead of him does. On the note regarding pitching, I am a little concerned that we've seen a lot of poor pitching in our 9-2 run. Here are the starters in our wins and losses.

Losses vs.:
Schmidt, Ortiz

Wins vs.:
Reuter x2, Tomkox2, Estes, Vazquez, Williams, Eaton, Redding

Eaton is good, Vazquez should be good, but all the other guys we beat were throwing cheese.

2005-04-18 17:28:18
83.   Mark
"I have not given up on Choi yet."

Neither have I, but there are only so many platoons you can have. Do you drop Saenz? Nakamura? I mean, the obvious answer is Grabowski, but I think even he is outperforming Choi at this point. Choi needs to face some AAA pitching for a while to get his batspeed up to snuff.

2005-04-18 17:28:20
84.   Daniel Zappala
What about Paul Molitor? And Pete Vukovich?
2005-04-18 17:28:24
85.   Marty
Truest Brewer: Robin Yount.
Also part of the worst headline I've ever seen: InsurYountable
2005-04-18 17:29:07
86.   Jim Hitchcock
Also to alex 7...Repko's was a bomb, looked like 10 or so rows up in the second level. Bradley's was merely mortal.
2005-04-18 17:30:00
87.   bigcpa
re: #58
Yessum that was me. Also note we don't hit a nasty series until Game #31 at St. Louis. 19 winnable games coming up. 21-9 would sound awful sweet.
2005-04-18 17:31:06
88.   Bob Timmermann
Technically the Dodgers other loss was to Mike Koplove.
2005-04-18 17:31:18
89.   Jim Tracy

I don't necessarily agree with that argument. Especially on a team like the Yankees where there are so many cheaper RBIs to pick up than a team like the Brewers, or even the A's. A stat that I think is overlooked quite often is BA with RISP. And in this, I also would throw in walks, tiring the pitcher, productive outs, etc. I think A-Rod, since he left Seattle has become very bad in some of these categories.

2005-04-18 17:32:16
90.   bigcpa
Fearing Blue-
Fair point but most of those guys have owned us in the past. I would be more skeptical if we were 4-1 vs. Colorado like our friends up north.
2005-04-18 17:32:20
91.   Jacob L
Obviously the truest brewer is Yount. I just brought up Gorman Thomas because the very name makes me giggle. '82 Brewers - Greatest Softball Team of All Time (tm).
2005-04-18 17:34:45
92.   Langhorne
Truest Brewer: the Bratwurst. I don't care how many times he/she/it loses to the Italian Sausage or the Hot Dog.
2005-04-18 17:35:18
93.   Jim Tracy
Steve, what can you expect back for Repko. Maybe a good #5 starter? We don't necessarily need that, especially if we make the playoffs. I dunno, I like Schmoll, but I'd be nervous if we are in the playoffs and his job is to get out Pujols with runners on 2nd and 3rd. Sorry, I'm being dramatic to make my point, but I'd be ok with a good hardthrowing reliever for Repko, especially if we can get a decent prospect along with him. The only concern about pulling the trigger on that is that Werth has a Dreifort-like propensity for picking up injuries.
2005-04-18 17:35:41
Yeah, I meant Antonio Perez, because when Alvarez and Penny (and Gagne whenever that happens)come back they will replace players in the bullpen. Then we will probably trade one bullpen player for a positional player so we will have a 11 man bullpen. But for any additional positional player that comes off the DL, we will have to send one positional player down. After bringing up Nakamura, will we send him back down? I think that would be a difficult decision. Sending Grabowski down seems like the most sensical decision, but he has proven to be adept in the lefty pinch hitting role. Trading Repko seems possible but considering he is homegrown and only now paying dividends I think we would have get better than an average releiver or prospect.
I apoligize for the ill-written rant but when we are this good its funny talking unnecessary hypotheticals.
2005-04-18 17:36:29
95.   alex 7
thanks jim.

I wouldn't be sold on trading Repko. I'm guessing his value is much higher to the Dodgers than to most other teams. Many teams have fringe players with hot starts, not sure that other scouts would notice much more in Repko than a guy on a hot streak. I think his outfield defense, speed, and hitting ability makes him a great bench player, especially with Werth's injury history. Send down Nakamura and cut Grabowski before trading Repko.

Of course, if he's packaged and nets us a legit 1B, then it might be worth it.

2005-04-18 17:40:24
96.   Mark
Hey, how about trading Repko for Larry Barnes? I know at least one lady who would be happy.
2005-04-18 17:41:12
97.   Eric L
Aside from pinch hitting, Grabowski does have the advantage of being able to play multiple positions. IIRC, he is sort of the 3rd catcher in addition to his outfield and 1st base duties.
2005-04-18 17:41:31
98.   Jim Tracy
Jeez, I think the Dodger commentators are going to go crazy about that ball coming out of Capuano's hands. Downing can't shut up about it. Annoying!! I miss Scully.
2005-04-18 17:41:49
99.   Steve
My reaction (as usual) is knee-jerk, and it rests on the assumption that one would trade for some overpaid mediocrity like Urbina. I think relievers can be found within the organization cheaply (particularly our organization). I would assume that Repko has options, and that he'll just end up back at AAA if Werth is ready. Or we could send Grabowski down. That wouldn't break my heart.

The good news is that Werth not only has the wrist problem, but also that ligament problem. So he and we have the luxury of patience.

2005-04-18 17:42:05
100.   adg
Waitaminutethere, I know this is Izzy's team, but does that mean he can swing 3-0?
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2005-04-18 17:42:23
101.   Jim Tracy
I wouldn't get Larry Barnes back unless Json Romano is brought back to protect him from the fans. Also, we need another Jason on our team badly.
2005-04-18 17:42:24
102.   bigcpa
and Repko responds to his critics...
2005-04-18 17:42:53
103.   Jim Hitchcock
Jason Repko is the heart and sould of the Dodgers.
2005-04-18 17:42:55
104.   KAYVMON
Speak of the devil
2005-04-18 17:43:11
105.   Steve
Hard to pitch out of 3-1 counts all the time.
2005-04-18 17:43:17
106.   Jerry
Our bullpen is going to be just fine once Gagne and Alvarez come back. We don't need any expensive relievers to get the job done.

The way things are looking, if DePo makes a midseason move it might be for a dominant #1 starter.

2005-04-18 17:43:50
107.   Jim Tracy
I am converted... that's it... if we trade Repko, I will go to or whatever that site is.
2005-04-18 17:44:04
108.   Jim Tracy
repko must not become a dearly departed
2005-04-18 17:45:05
109.   Steve
Izturis has been reading his #^&$^#&(^# copy.
2005-04-18 17:45:06
110.   Jim Tracy
since we are throwing out hypotheticals, if we do get a legit #1 and if Penny is healthy and good, who will be our top three starters in the playoffs?
2005-04-18 17:46:33
111.   Eric L
Jason Repko is the heart and sould of the Dodgers.

If you squint the right way, Repko kinda looks like LoDuca.

2005-04-18 17:47:07
112.   Jim Tracy
Dontrelle Willis looks like Sandy Koufax. What the heck has gotten into him? Odalis Perez is not even the best left handed pitcher in the NL right now... and he could be 3-0 with an ERA under 1.00 by the time today is over.
2005-04-18 17:47:53
113.   Jim Tracy
Tampa Bay just pulled to within nine of the Yankees. Game on!!!
2005-04-18 17:48:50
114.   Jim Tracy
Now when you squint the right way, what do you do with your left eye?
2005-04-18 17:49:04
115.   Steve
That's what Washington will do for you. The Mainstream media is still lagging on the D-Backs general suckiness.
2005-04-18 17:50:19
116.   Mark
Tampa with another run. If they even get close in this game, the Boss will go ballistic.
2005-04-18 17:50:54
117.   Eric L
You can do anything you please with your left eye. The right eye is the important one for this squinting exercise.
2005-04-18 17:51:50
118.   alex 7
Good question. If Penny comes back and is the hard throwing 3.10 ERA stud that he can be, will a #1 still be necessary? Obviously can't have too many great pitchers, but would a trade for a #1 still be a necessity?

Penny, Perez, and Lowe would be a very formidable trio. Weaver is solid, but just worries me against great teams.

2005-04-18 17:53:14
119.   Eric L
I'm not even sure there is going to be anything close to a #1 guy at the trading deadline. The list of pitchers coming up on their free-agent years isn't that appealing.
2005-04-18 17:54:20
120.   bigcpa
What's not appealing about Kevin Brown?
2005-04-18 17:55:00
121.   Jim Tracy
Oh man, Tampa Bay game, the steroid guy hit into a double play.
2005-04-18 17:55:30
122.   bigcpa
Since our 2006 payroll is only $72M we have plenty of room for Helton.
2005-04-18 17:56:17
123.   Eric L
Oops, I spoke too soon.. it looks like Lima time is going to be a free agent next year.
2005-04-18 17:56:18
124.   alex 7
did he rip his jersey off in a rage?
2005-04-18 17:56:21
125.   Jim Tracy
#120 - George Steinbother will never let him leave
2005-04-18 17:57:00
126.   Jim Tracy
Yeah, I would be happier if we did not get Helton. Without Coors, he's just another Shawn Green but making more money
2005-04-18 17:57:28
127.   Mark
"What's not appealing about Kevin Brown?"

We would need to add padding to the dugout walls, but other than that...

2005-04-18 17:58:29
128.   alex 7
What about Konerko? Younger, cheaper, and should have been a Dodger all this time. Is he a lock to stay in Chicago? Seems I've heard his name mentioned a few times in previous summers.
2005-04-18 17:58:29
129.   Jim Tracy
Is it suspicious at all that Jim Thome has no HRs this year despite playing in a juiced up playyard.
2005-04-18 17:59:22
130.   alex 7
lol, I think Klesko and Giles look a little smaller this season.
2005-04-18 17:59:36
131.   Jim Tracy
I'd be ok with Konerko. Maybe Arte Moreno will give us Guerrero if we agree to use LAA on our scoreboards.
2005-04-18 18:00:40
132.   bigcpa
Helton 2004 Road:


Not too many weak tappers to 2b in that line.

2005-04-18 18:01:17
133.   Steve
Lima might be a free agent by June 1.
2005-04-18 18:01:24
134.   Jim Tracy
Speaking of Klesko and Giles, man, I know it's early, but San Diego does not look like they can score runs at all this year. Who would their top run producer be? Nady? The only Padre position player I'd want on my team is Loretta, although he is no Kent.
2005-04-18 18:01:34
135.   Jim Hitchcock
A bit to early to mention the phrase `no h*', but I'm really starting to wish Vinny was caling this game.
2005-04-18 18:02:40
136.   Jerry
I don't have a clear image in my head of Saenz's defense--so I can't say how bad it is--but doesn't he deserve more AB's? He's provided some good production for us this year.
2005-04-18 18:03:25
137.   Aug C
Maybe the Yankees will be out of the race by June so we can get the Big Unit (:
2005-04-18 18:03:37
138.   Steve
How's Kaz doing? hehe.
2005-04-18 18:03:43
139.   Jim Tracy
#132 - that's still worse than what Beltre hit last year in his MVP-ish season, and he just signed for about $6-7 million less than Helton makes per year. And yeah, you're right, he's definitely better than Shawn Green. I was just going for the dramatic.
2005-04-18 18:03:57
140.   bigcpa
Say what you want about Helton's contract... Manny Ramirez' $20M didn't seem egregious when he was drenched in champagne.
2005-04-18 18:04:26
141.   Jerry
Maybe we can have Lima do the Coca-Cola trivia stuff in between innings. That might keep Plaschke et al happy.
2005-04-18 18:04:42
142.   Jim Tracy
#135 - at least Shawn Green is not playing RF, so it could happen.
2005-04-18 18:04:47
143.   Spageticus
Can Phillips be the Greek god of doubles?
2005-04-18 18:04:54
144.   Jim Hitchcock
Let's try a squeeze with Saenz on third, jsut for fun.
2005-04-18 18:05:41
145.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Smart move by Yost: His pitcher is having control issues (to put it mildly), so he orders an intentional walk.
2005-04-18 18:05:43
146.   Mark
Come on, Odalis.
2005-04-18 18:06:00
147.   Jim Tracy
Odalis Perez is going to hit a Grand Slam and Plaschke will write an article about how Dodger pitchers should bat everyday.
2005-04-18 18:06:48
148.   tomA
who are the milwaukee announcers? anyone know?
2005-04-18 18:06:55
149.   Jim Tracy
damn it, close.
2005-04-18 18:07:39
150.   bigcpa
Helton had the EQA edge .342-.330 over Beltre last year. Helton/Drew were #2 and #5 in the NL last year. If that doesn't make your mouth water something's wrong.
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2005-04-18 18:07:44
151.   Jim Tracy
LOL, Torre just took Wright out of the game. I think he's been watching too much Jim Tracy.
2005-04-18 18:07:49
152.   alex 7
Beltre probably had a career year though, where those numbers on Helton are probably consistent for the last 5 years. Still, Konerko and a veteran 8th inning guy for about the same money as Helton I think.
2005-04-18 18:08:12
153.   Steve
There goes Plaschke's Golden Boy now.
2005-04-18 18:08:13
154.   Daniel Zappala
Hey, Tracy could have pinch-hit for Perez and gotten a run or two there. :-)
2005-04-18 18:08:35
155.   Jim Tracy
Capuano is leading a charmed life. 12 hits+walks in 6 innings.
2005-04-18 18:08:58
156.   Sam DC
I for one can't wait until Izzy gets his second home run of the year. At this point, I think he's just looking for the right spot to top his first one.
2005-04-18 18:09:11
157.   Daniel Zappala
Especially if he had Cora on the bench.
2005-04-18 18:09:51
158.   Jim Tracy
No complaints about Helton, really. Just too much money. I just think we can get a very good 1B + more for that amount of money.
2005-04-18 18:10:14
159.   s choir
dodgers 0-1 this year when izzy homers
2005-04-18 18:10:42
160.   Jerry
The thing is that Izzy shouldn't be looking to hit home runs, he should be trying to get n base.
2005-04-18 18:10:50
161.   Daniel Zappala
Maybe we could get Mike Piazza to play first.
2005-04-18 18:11:32
162.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Helton will be 32 at the start of next season. If he's willing to take a short deal (i.e. no longer than 2 seasons), I can get behind it. But if Todd is expecting another mega-payday, forget it.
2005-04-18 18:12:34
163.   Ben P
As long as we're in fantasy trade-land, I wonder what it would take to pry Brad Wilkerson away from the Nationals? They definitely need to think long-term and could probably identify several Dodger prospects, particularly pitchers, they might want. That's what puts us in such a good position should a midseason deal become necessary -- payroll felxibility AND a deep farm system. DePo looks smarter all the time, and not just because of our somewhat flukish record.
2005-04-18 18:12:53
164.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
For a point of reference, Helton is making $12.6MM this year.
2005-04-18 18:13:26
165.   Steve
And stop reading his #^%^%$^ copy.
2005-04-18 18:13:29
166.   Daniel Zappala
Al Downing: new champion for sabermetrics? He keeps saying the Brewers need to get someone on base for the next hitter and get something going that way. So is he going to start talking about OBP? :-)
2005-04-18 18:13:53
167.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Oh my.
2005-04-18 18:14:25
168.   Underbruin
#163 - flukish? See if you're singing the same tune when the boys go into the postseason at 160-2. =P
2005-04-18 18:14:33
169.   Steve
The Milwaukee Broadcast just said that Ishii was leading off the seventh. If I was them, I'd want Ishii leading off too.
2005-04-18 18:15:44
170.   Daniel Zappala
5-3, Nakamura to Saenz. Never thought I'd see that this year.
2005-04-18 18:16:32
171.   Daniel Zappala
ex-Angel Matt Wise, sentenced to Milwaukee and having a good year so far.
2005-04-18 18:16:59
172.   alex 7
Helton for a B-level pitching prospect and one of our many young 2B? Rockies might just want to get out of that contract with the young guys they have on the team. And if Helton can't agree to a new, shorter contract in the off-season, let him walk?
2005-04-18 18:19:14
173.   Sam DC
DT etiquette question -- do we not mention exciting goings-on out of concern for jinxing?
2005-04-18 18:19:16
174.   Linkmeister
Weren't some folks griping about Ross Porter never giving the score? Nobody here has mentioned it today. For the benefit of us non-LA/CA types who have no TV/radio access, couldn't you please do a better job? ;)
2005-04-18 18:19:46
175.   Spageticus
I don't know who is partnering with him, but I was listening to Uecker (sp?) call the game for Milwaukee on XM. I like Uecker, but I can't stop thinking about Mr. Belvedere.
2005-04-18 18:19:57
176.   s choir
dodgers' obp in this game: .448
2005-04-18 18:20:11
177.   Jerry
Post #173 never existed. Baseball gods, move on.
2005-04-18 18:20:19
178.   Steve
173 NO!
2005-04-18 18:20:21
179.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
3-0, Dodgers. Top 7.
2005-04-18 18:20:53
180.   Daniel Zappala
#174 -- can't you get to or even for the score?
2005-04-18 18:20:57
181.   brendan glynn
3-0 dodgers and no one is talking to perez or sitting next to him between innings(hint,hint)
2005-04-18 18:21:00
182.   Jim Hitchcock
Oh, sorry. 3-0 Dodgers. Odalis has allowed one baserunner, via walk.
2005-04-18 18:21:31
183.   Bob Timmermann
Dontrelle Willis of Florida is now at 24 straight scoreless innings to start the season.

Which is pretty impressive and makes Hershiser's 58 inning streak seem unreal to me.

2005-04-18 18:21:36
184.   Spageticus
The AP just sent their freaking jinxing advisory. Charlatans!
2005-04-18 18:21:37
185.   Mark
Sam, do not mention it.
2005-04-18 18:21:42
186.   GoBears
I'd be really surprised if Colorado were to let Helton go if they can avoid it. Their attendance would plummet without him. There's noone else worth watching on that team.
2005-04-18 18:22:12
187.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Boo, Jim! Boooo!
2005-04-18 18:22:47
188.   Bob Timmermann
Jose Vidro of Washington kept Orel's record.
2005-04-18 18:23:13
189.   Bob Timmermann
That is Jose Vidro kept Orel's record safe with a home run off of Willis.
2005-04-18 18:23:34
190.   mcrawford
Repko is hella dope.
2005-04-18 18:23:53
191.   Underbruin
hinthint winkwink nudgenudge Say no more, guvnah.
2005-04-18 18:23:59
192.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Their attendance would plummet without him.

But I doubt the fine citizens of Denver think, "I'll go to the park and watch Todd Helton." Instead, they think, "If the Rockies were winning, I'd go. Since they aren't, I won't."

2005-04-18 18:24:06
193.   s choir
hershiser had 59 straight scoreless innings
2005-04-18 18:24:19
194.   GoBears
Yowch. Kent looks awful tonight. Not just unsuccessful, but no good swings yet. Not complaining - just observing.
2005-04-18 18:25:16
195.   bigcpa
2005-04-18 18:25:35
196.   bigcpa
Saenz, Saenz everywhere the Saenz!
2005-04-18 18:25:44
197.   Sam DC
OK, have reclaimed the keyboard from that invading pack of wild monkeys. Don't know what they were thinking. Have cleared cache and erased all history.
2005-04-18 18:26:07
198.   Linkmeister
Oh, sure I can go to Yahoo, and I did, and saw the unmentionable bits too, but I was nudging a few of the more vocal Porter critics a little. ;)
2005-04-18 18:26:10
199.   Steve
That kid Saenz hits the ball pretty good. Does he have options left?
2005-04-18 18:26:13
200.   Jerry
Again, the Olmedo Code produces.
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2005-04-18 18:26:35
201.   Underbruin
I don't think the Rockies would let Helton go to the Dodgers even if they were willing to trade him - lots of negative press around letting big names go to divisional rivals (think of the Green backlashes, which I believe were partially exacerbated because he stayed within the division).
2005-04-18 18:27:13
202.   Mark
Saenz is 2 for 2, with 2 walks, and he's OPSing 1.379. Anyone else think he deserves the job full time?
2005-04-18 18:28:00
203.   Underbruin
Heheh, Vic the Brick is currently eating it on the radio ('net feed for 570), can't believe the Dodgers are doing so well, he's laughing like a madman. XD
2005-04-18 18:28:39
204.   Daniel Zappala
and they promptly take him out!
2005-04-18 18:28:56
205.   Ben P
What was great about that whole inning is that Repko wouldn't have scored on that Saenz flare if he hadn't taken third on that bounced pitch (and if he hadn't already stolen second). See, Harold Reynolds and Joe Morgan, even "Moneyball" teams steal bases sometimes!
2005-04-18 18:29:16
206.   mcrawford
I still can't get the Tina Turner song "We Don't Need a Norihiro" out of my mind. Darn you, Jon!
2005-04-18 18:29:38
207.   jtshoe
Willis's ERA just jumped over 1
2005-04-18 18:30:53
208.   Underbruin
Poor fellow.
2005-04-18 18:31:30
209.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
See ... even "Moneyball" teams steal bases sometimes!

Remember that Toronto paper's terrible "White Jays" story, in which they claimed Moneyball types would have no use for Jackie Robinson? Appalling.

2005-04-18 18:33:37
210.   Underbruin
shakes head Yeah, because he never did anything but run fast. Couldn't play ball at all.


2005-04-18 18:33:53
211.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
2005-04-18 18:34:18
212.   tomA
2005-04-18 18:34:36
213.   alex 7
no gold star, can you elaborate?
2005-04-18 18:34:37
214.   Underbruin
What's the over-under on a JD sighting?
2005-04-18 18:35:07
215.   brendan glynn
shoot ,damn
2005-04-18 18:35:18
216.   Rainman
Well, I jinxed it, fellas. I was watching only watching the live stats for this game, and turned on the live audio at the beginning of this inning so I didn't miss a potential no-no. This one's on me - should know better.
2005-04-18 18:35:45
217.   Steve
Fun while it lasted. The over under on seeing the bullpen in this inning is about 100%
2005-04-18 18:36:10
218.   Bob Timmermann
Odalis is complaining that Shawn Green should have tried to dive to catch that hit by Spivey.
2005-04-18 18:36:13
219.   Underbruin
#216 - yeah, you jerk. How dare you?
-sigh- Oh well.
2005-04-18 18:37:05
220.   alex 7
my gamecenter has Valentin playing shortstop now. Did I miss something?
2005-04-18 18:37:24
221.   Underbruin
And Green is attempting to maintain an aloof but noble posture about the whole incident, while the fans take sides both for and aga...

Oh, sorry, flashback syndrome.

2005-04-18 18:37:28
222.   Sam DC
no really, on me. no 'scuses. dratnabit.
2005-04-18 18:38:04
223.   Steve
Valentin at third, Nakamura at first, Saenz out.
2005-04-18 18:38:32
224.   DL04
I'm following the game on Gamecast. At least now I don't have to rush out and find a bar with ESPN for the ninth inning.
2005-04-18 18:38:57
225.   tomA
wow, quick hook for odalis.
2005-04-18 18:39:06
226.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
alex 7, check this:
2005-04-18 18:39:08
227.   alex 7
it's 16-8 Yankees now. A win, but not a very inspiring one when you give up 8 to the D-Rays.
2005-04-18 18:39:19
228.   brendan glynn
Monday announces the game like he is watching it on a 5 second delay
2005-04-18 18:40:02
229.   Jerry
With the tendonitis concerns, they're watching his pitch count pretty closely.
2005-04-18 18:40:11
230.   Linkmeister
ESPN out here is Cubs/Reds, so unless it's different where you are, DL04, you wouldn't have had a shot anyway.
2005-04-18 18:41:08
231.   bigcpa
seriously... Repko's dropped foul pop was in the air for about 30 seconds according to Monday's call.
2005-04-18 18:41:18
232.   Underbruin
Unless they switched over to try and get live feed of a possible no-no, which I've seen them do.
2005-04-18 18:41:38
233.   Jim Hitchcock
I have commited sepuku, Gold Star...
2005-04-18 18:42:24
234.   Bob Timmermann
In 2003 the DBack who broke OP's no-hit bid was Shea Hillenbrand. Leadoff bloop single to right in the 8th.

Elmer Dessens was the loser that day and gave up no earned runs in a 2-0 Dodgers win.

The Dodgers scored when first baseman Paul Lo Duca reached second on a double error by Robby Hammock (a catcher playing third) and then Mike Kinkade singled home Lo Duca and went to second on the throw home. David Ross doubled home Kinkade.

Yeah, I went to that game and kept score (July 5, 2003). Wilkin Ruan was the leadoff batter for the Dodgers. 0 for 4 with 3 Ks.

2005-04-18 18:42:24
235.   Jerry
I like seeing Duaner keeping that ball down.
2005-04-18 18:42:33
236.   Underbruin
Also, you want to pull Odalis before he has a chance to get himself into any sort of trouble - with seventeen thousand pitchers in the bullpen, there's plenty of leeway.
2005-04-18 18:43:30
237.   Steve
Who called for that garbage slider? I want somebody's head.
2005-04-18 18:44:47
238.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Forget about the no-no. We still may lose this.
2005-04-18 18:44:49
239.   Underbruin
Steve - Details?
2005-04-18 18:45:19
240.   Steve
That was on that blankety-blankety full-count garbage slider to Damian Miller. If you can't smoke Damian Miller with two strikes, who the hell can you smoke? You gets what you ask for.
2005-04-18 18:45:23
241.   Underbruin
Or was that just the pitch that walked Miller?
2005-04-18 18:45:31
242.   GoBears
Hmm, uh, guys...there's a game goin' on here. 4-3. Triple off Nakamura's glove drove in 2, for those without live feeds.
2005-04-18 18:46:15
243.   Underbruin
Ugh. Thanks for the info.
2005-04-18 18:46:15
244.   Chris H
Nakamura looks pretty bad at 1B.
2005-04-18 18:46:18
245.   Bob Timmermann
Nakamura played Magruder's grounder like Leon Durham in the 1984 NLCS Game 5.

Ended up as a 3-bagger.

2005-04-18 18:46:34
246.   Jerry
They're not giving Nakamura an error. That ball was smoked.
2005-04-18 18:46:50
247.   Steve
Sanchez has a full count to Damian Miller and throws a 76 mph garbage slider a foot outside. He'd already thrown a hanger on 3-1 that Miller didn't swing at. He walks the tying run to the plate. Chaos ensues. The most effective pitch in baseball is the fastball. Especially since this umpire has no corners and it's FRICKING DAMIAN MILLER!
2005-04-18 18:46:53
248.   Bob Timmermann
Officially it's a 2B-E9.
2005-04-18 18:47:11
249.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
I just had a heart attack.
2005-04-18 18:47:17
250.   bigcpa
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2005-04-18 18:47:37
251.   tomA
nice catch, though...
2005-04-18 18:47:37
252.   Bob Timmermann
Nakamura made that catch a lot harder than it needed to be.
2005-04-18 18:47:45
253.   GoBears
Nakamura looks pretty bad at 1B.

Now whaddya think? Nice save on Valentin's throw.

2005-04-18 18:47:47
254.   Rainman
Yuck. C'mon boys - pitch and catch.
2005-04-18 18:47:58
255.   Jerry
Nakamura makes an incredible grab of an awful bounce throw by Valentin to end the inning.
2005-04-18 18:48:33
256.   tomA
hard to see on the webcast
2005-04-18 18:48:36
257.   Rainman
2005-04-18 18:48:38
258.   DL04
#230 - I'm sure ESPN would've cut away to the ninth inning of the no-hitter was still intact.
2005-04-18 18:48:41
259.   Steve
Nakamura looks very, very good at 1B right now.

If I see Sanchez throw one more hanging slider on a two strike count, I think I will also commit honorable seppuku.

2005-04-18 18:49:04
260.   KAYVMON
Was Perez cussing out the Dodger bench? Cuz thats what it looked like before he applauded the 3rd out.
2005-04-18 18:50:05
261.   DL04
That inning officially sucked. But we're still up... I wouldn't mind some insurance runs, though.
2005-04-18 18:50:36
262.   Mark
Plaschke was warming up there, for a minute...
2005-04-18 18:50:42
263.   Ben P
I think Nakamura's second play was excellent given the high bounce, and the first ball was hit too hard for him to get to. His footwork out there actually looks pretty good. It's not like Saenz would have caught either of those. Not sure about Choi.
2005-04-18 18:50:54
264.   Underbruin
He could have just been cussing in general - people -are- known to do that when they lose a no-hitter and the inning goes for three runs.
2005-04-18 18:51:34
265.   Rainman
Am I the only one who gets a little more nervous than normal when Duaner comes in? Looks pretty hittable right now.
2005-04-18 18:51:52
266.   Underbruin
I think Odalis will cry if this goes for a ND.
2005-04-18 18:52:06
267.   Steve
The double was a toss-up, decided by fate for letting Damian Miller get away.
2005-04-18 18:52:38
268.   Steve
Duaner = Darren Dreifort school of sliders.
2005-04-18 18:52:40
269.   cdbavg400
Meanwhile, Matt Wise seems to be pretty unhittable for the moment.
2005-04-18 18:52:53
270.   GoBears
And now I'm nervous with Carrara coming in. I like Gio, but isn't this his first outing since he got hurt?
2005-04-18 18:53:15
271.   Chris H
Miller's "double" was smoked right between Nakamura's legs.

Was Kent talking about Valentin and Nakamura when he decried players who make routine players look difficult?

2005-04-18 18:53:56
272.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
I think Odalis was firing a few nasties at a fan, not to Tracy.
2005-04-18 18:54:10
273.   GoBears
#271: Or Jeter. Or Alomar. Or JT Snow.

Lotsa guys.

2005-04-18 18:54:14
274.   Underbruin
Inning going by awfully fast. Get to the 9th, boys.
2005-04-18 18:54:18
275.   Bob Timmermann
Carrara pitched two scoreless innings in the home opener.
2005-04-18 18:54:33
276.   YaleLaw05

I'm watching the game via an MLBTV broadcast for FSNorth----earlier, Odalis was facing some fans behind the bench and was cussing them out. I think he was probably cursing at them at the time the camera panned to him on your broadcast.

On another note, the Brewers announcers are HORRIBLE. Tim McCarver horrible.

2005-04-18 18:55:13
277.   Underbruin
#270 - I didn't -think- so... could be wrong.
2005-04-18 18:55:14
278.   micktissue
Big time tactical error by Tracy. Puts great fielding 3B Nori at 1B and suspect defensive replacement 3B Valentin at 3RD late in the game. It is spun as a "great defensive play" by Nori but looks more like Keystone Cops with what might have been a very lucky grab.

Why isn't slick fielding Choi at first (a left handed bat to boot) and why doesn't Nori stay at 3B?

2005-04-18 18:57:35
279.   Underbruin
God, that's a scary sight: I flip to the SI play-by-play to see GC's face staring at me directly above an 8+ ERA. Yeesh.
2005-04-18 18:57:38
280.   GoBears
OOh, nice 67MPH curve to Cirillo. That looked Gagne-ish.
2005-04-18 18:57:47
281.   cdbavg400
Almost there Gio....
2005-04-18 18:59:17
282.   Underbruin
God, I can see Plashke sitting there, praying for a Dodger miscue.
2005-04-18 18:59:46
283.   YaleLaw05
Apparently the hotel the Dodgers are staying at in Milwaukee is a 112-year old luxury hotel. Gagne and Bradley (as well as Beltre last season) as well as other Dodgers present and past claim the hotel is haunted; they are actively seeking a new place to say for tonight.


2005-04-18 19:01:04
284.   cdbavg400
Didn't Spivey just bat a few minutes ago?
2005-04-18 19:01:18
285.   Aug C
according to reporter Beltre claimed a couple of years ago that a "ghostly presence" was in his room turning on lights and tickling his toes!
2005-04-18 19:01:31
286.   Bob Timmermann
The entire city of Milwaukee is haunted. I've been there on two separate occasions.

There are four freeways in the city.

1) The North-South Freeway
2) The East-West Freeway
3) The Airport Freeway
4) The Miller Park Freeway (which used to be called the County Stadium Freeway)

It's very hard to get lost in Milwaukee.

2005-04-18 19:02:06
287.   Underbruin
That's the REAL reason Beltre was traded - his feet were too ticklish.
2005-04-18 19:03:09
288.   Rainman
Don't like this...
2005-04-18 19:03:13
289.   cdbavg400
Anyone missing Gagne right about now? I know I am.
2005-04-18 19:03:14
290.   brendan glynn
Yhency Now
2005-04-18 19:03:23
291.   Ben P
A-Rod just got his fifth hit.
2005-04-18 19:04:20
292.   Underbruin
That's the real problem with missing Gagne - I'd much rather have Yhency try to clean up in the 7th, use Gio in the 8th with a -hopefully- 3-run lead, and then of course game over.
2005-04-18 19:04:48
293.   Steve
My only comfort is that at least we don't pay 30 million for this crap like the Yankees. Brady Clark walked on four pitches. All we had to do was throw the ball down the middle.
2005-04-18 19:04:54
294.   Underbruin
Wait, they brought in Wunsch?
2005-04-18 19:05:25
295.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Wunsch time!
2005-04-18 19:06:12
296.   YaleLaw05
Yhency in the 9th?
2005-04-18 19:06:17
297.   Jim Hitchcock
What was that???
2005-04-18 19:06:21
298.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Penny should be taking the mound right now in Vegas.
2005-04-18 19:06:34
299.   bigcpa
2005-04-18 19:06:47
300.   Rainman
Come on, Wunsch. Get this man. OP deserves a "W" tonight...
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2005-04-18 19:06:53
301.   bigcpa
top order due up- insurance anyone?
2005-04-18 19:07:00
302.   Steve
All hail the LOOGY!
2005-04-18 19:07:10
303.   Jerry
I don't trust Gio at all. He's only getting older, too. I like GHAME OVER in the eighth.
2005-04-18 19:08:10
304.   cdbavg400
Speaking of old, here comes Ricky Bottalico...
2005-04-18 19:08:15
305.   Underbruin
2005-04-18 19:08:47
306.   Bob Timmermann
I really should have filed my trademark application on that one.


Of course, I'm not selling anything with the name on it, so it's not worth anything.

Except the combined respect of the Dodger Thoughts community! You guys are my real family!

You can all drop by my place for Thanksgiving.

2005-04-18 19:09:07
307.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Ricky Blow-tallico is still in the league?
2005-04-18 19:09:22
308.   Underbruin
A couple of insurance runs would be REAL nice here.
2005-04-18 19:10:03
309.   Underbruin
#306 On what one?
2005-04-18 19:10:33
310.   Jerry
I should stop saying that, Bob, it sounds much better coming out of your mouth.
2005-04-18 19:11:07
311.   Bob Timmermann
2005-04-18 19:11:14
312.   Sam DC
Don't you mean THANKSGHIVING.

Underbruin -- I think Bob means on GHAME OVER for YHENCY

2005-04-18 19:11:51
313.   bigcpa
"And for Jason Repko, his third hit of the night."
2005-04-18 19:12:08
314.   Steve
Ricky Bottalico makes 800,000. That's like three Steve Schmolls.

I'll take the three Steve Schmolls.

2005-04-18 19:12:10
315.   Underbruin
Yeah, heh, I see. Good line.
2005-04-18 19:12:37
316.   Bob Timmermann
Just noticed that the Astros and Braves are 0-0 in the 8th. Clemens vs. Hudson.

The Braves are batting Jordan 7th and Mondesi 8th.

2005-04-18 19:12:40
317.   Im So Blue
You mean coming out of Bob's fingers.
2005-04-18 19:12:47
318.   the OZ
Jason Repko is a MACHINE!
2005-04-18 19:12:50
319.   bigcpa
GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!
2005-04-18 19:13:06
320.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Thanks, Milton.
2005-04-18 19:13:15
321.   Jim Hitchcock
From both sides of the plate!
2005-04-18 19:13:20
322.   DL04
If I see "GHAME OVER" on the outfield message boards at Dodger Stadium anytime soon, I'll file a DT class-action complaint on your behalf, Bob.
2005-04-18 19:13:25
323.   bigcpa
2005-04-18 19:13:25
324.   GoBears

So Bradley CAN HR without the guy in front of him doing so first.

2005-04-18 19:13:38
325.   tomA
somebody's busting out this year...
2005-04-18 19:13:39
326.   Underbruin
C'mon boys, man on third with no outs - give Yhency a cushion.
2005-04-18 19:13:50
327.   Suffering Bruin
2005-04-18 19:13:52
328.   Steve
Oh man. Ricky Bottalico. This is cracking me up. Good thing we don't depend on the long ball.
2005-04-18 19:14:06
329.   bokonon42
Forget the Pope, vote Bradley for G-d.
2005-04-18 19:14:10
330.   Underbruin
... Good.
2005-04-18 19:14:14
331.   KAYVMON
Take off those gloves Milt. That one was hit just a little bit.
2005-04-18 19:14:15
332.   Bob Timmermann
I live in a one-bedroom apartment, so everybody has to visit in shifts.

And bring their own food.

I guess Brazoban will still come in. He hasn't pitched in a week.

2005-04-18 19:14:17
333.   Sam DC
Braves-Astros is on TBS (out here, at least, but I think they run a national baseball schedule).
2005-04-18 19:15:41
334.   Underbruin
I do think that whole "Dodgers haven't faced a pitcher with a pulse" thing applies even more to bullpens than starters, this year.
2005-04-18 19:16:12
335.   scanderbeg
I'm not watching the game on TV, but keeping up with gamecast. Someone please describe the Bradley HR.
2005-04-18 19:16:51
336.   brendan glynn
When do you move Bradley to the 2 hole? when Werth comes back?
2005-04-18 19:17:34
337.   KAYVMON
It went far. He took off his gloves and watched it go before proceeding to run around the bases.
2005-04-18 19:17:44
338.   GoBears
Another lousy AB for Kent. Again, not complainin'. Just observin'. He couldn't stay hot forever.
2005-04-18 19:18:23
339.   brendan glynn
Monday called Bradley Kent the whole at bat until Bradley homered. something wrong with him
2005-04-18 19:18:23
340.   KAYVMON
I think Bradley will stay at #5, while Werth might hit second when he comes back.
2005-04-18 19:18:32
341.   Underbruin
I dunno - I gotta say I like having MB and Kent batting next to each other. Even if Kent cools off, the two seem to complement each other very well.
2005-04-18 19:18:36
342.   scanderbeg
Thanks, KAYVMON.
2005-04-18 19:18:48
343.   Bob Timmermann
Milton hit ball. Ball go far. Many man run around the bases.
2005-04-18 19:18:49
344.   Steve
Crushed some kind of hanging breaking ball into the right field seats a LONG way back. Never a doubt -- really even before he made contact. You could follow that 78 mpher right into the sweet spot all the way.
2005-04-18 19:19:29
345.   cdbavg400
Bad day for Nakamura. I'm not sure if the Nakamura-craze is going to catch on anytime soon.
2005-04-18 19:20:32
346.   brendan glynn
though that they might want to give Werth some AB's in the fifth slot for awhile(or even lower).
2005-04-18 19:20:59
347.   Underbruin
So that's a one-hitter after 7 innings of work for Perez, and a 2-HR day for Bradley.

Gee, it's funny how guys on this team never seem to step up big, huh? Too bad we're missing the HEART AND SOUL(TM Bill Plaschke) of the team to exhort these guys to greater performance.

2005-04-18 19:21:18
348.   scanderbeg
The team of Monday and (Downing?) are insufferable. I was listening to them for an inning on the freeway. Ugh.

Does anyone else think that the announce team of Steiner and Monday has absolutely no chemistry?

2005-04-18 19:22:27
349.   Fearing Blue
Didn't someone mention in a previous thread that you could listen to the 51s online? I checked their webpage ( and wasn't able to find a link.
2005-04-18 19:22:30
350.   Underbruin
Who're they throwing out to pitch the 9th? Gamecast slowed on me...
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2005-04-18 19:22:55
351.   Steve
The Milwaukee cameraman hopefully followed the flight of Lee's fly ball...right into Repko's mitt. It was sort of sad. Poor Milwaukee.
2005-04-18 19:23:12
352.   Im So Blue
Does anybody else hear Jaime Jarrin in the background of the TV broadcast?
2005-04-18 19:23:39
353.   Jim Hitchcock
Did'ja see Manny Mota on the bench telling a story? Great.
2005-04-18 19:23:40
354.   Underbruin
Nm - Yhency, got it.
2005-04-18 19:23:45
355.   cdbavg400
#350 - Brazoban
2005-04-18 19:23:50
356.   Steve
That's what I wanted to see against Damian Miller. BB fastball for strike three.
2005-04-18 19:24:11
357.   Underbruin
1 to go...
2005-04-18 19:24:47
358.   bigcpa
Just found out my $130 Extra Innings package got me 3 hours of black screen.
2005-04-18 19:25:08
359.   GoBears
re: 348

Dunno. I've been home for every game so far. Steiner and Lyons are doing quite well. I think they complement each other.

2005-04-18 19:25:27
360.   Bob Timmermann
Papal Conclave Fact of the Day:

Largest predominantly Catholic country with no Cardinal voting:


2005-04-18 19:25:44
361.   cdbavg400
Ball game
2005-04-18 19:25:49
362.   Steve
Good night Irene!
2005-04-18 19:26:39
363.   Underbruin
Thank you Yhency, and 10-2 it is. Wish the Dodgers could have had a good start to their season. -sigh- Guess we'll never be the Yank... oh, oh, wait.



2005-04-18 19:27:16
364.   bigcpa
Did Monday just give a Penny update? I was snoozing.
2005-04-18 19:27:31
365.   DL04
How does it feel to be fans of the first team with double-digits in the win column?
2005-04-18 19:27:52
366.   GoBears
Just switched over to the Angels game (of Anaheim). I had NO IDEA that Mike Hargrove was the new Seattle manager. Wow - not sure how I missed that.
2005-04-18 19:27:59
367.   Bob Timmermann
Steiner and Lyons were surprisingly non-annoying.

That's all you can ask for. However the camera work and direction were pretty bad. I assume that it was a Milwaukee feed.

2005-04-18 19:28:42
368.   Fearing Blue
Re: #349
Answering my own question.. I found the link. It's intuitively located under "In Other News" in a box down on the left. Here's the direct link to the broadcast:

He struck out 2 and walked one in the first. Regularly hitting 95 already.

2005-04-18 19:31:13
369.   Underbruin
Love for Penny to come back soon. I mean, Penny-Lowe-Perez-Weaver would be AWFULLY nice to think about.
2005-04-18 19:31:14
370.   GoBears
Oh man. Figgins just booted a ball up the middle with a runniner on 2nd (he's playing 2nd). It wouldn't have been an easy play, but he was lucky it wasn't worse. Rex Hudler: "Great play by Figgins to knock that ball down. There's no need to get an out there..." Yeah, gettings outs is overrated. Especially if there's some danger it could be a PRODUCTIVE out... OK, no more Angels talk (of Anaheim). 10-2! 10-2!
2005-04-18 19:31:28
371.   scanderbeg
I have mostly enjoyed Steiner (though I didn't see the telecast today). It's Monday who has regularly irritated me. This may sound a bit malicious, but Monday seems to have absolutely no personality.
2005-04-18 19:33:20
372.   bigcpa
Got it on! 4k's through 2 for Penny. He's pounding the corners at 94-95.
2005-04-18 19:33:39
373.   Underbruin
"Fastball, swung on and missed, strike 3. Penny struck him out with a 94 MPH fastball..."

Penny up to 4 SO, 1 hit.

2005-04-18 19:34:22
374.   tomA

i'm hearing the voice of pat morita (arnold from happy days)...

oops, have i just dated myself?

2005-04-18 19:34:25
375.   tomA

i'm hearing the voice of pat morita (arnold from happy days)...

oops, have i just dated myself?

2005-04-18 19:36:27
376.   Linkmeister
Atlanta - Houston 0-0 going to the 10th on TBS.

So my principal client interrupts me in the 7th inning (he's a Dodgers fan too) and says, "When are the real Dodgers going to show up?" Meaning, this team is doing far better than he expected.

2005-04-18 19:37:21
377.   Underbruin
tom - Course not - who didn't love ol' Pat in his pre-Miyagi days. :)
2005-04-18 19:38:27
378.   Bob Timmermann
They're still in the 9th in Houston. 0-0. The Astros have a runner on 3rd with one out and Biggio and Bagwell due up.
2005-04-18 19:39:06
379.   Marty
Man, Downing is the worst. I listened on my way home from the train and Downing was talking about pitchers and balks and was saying "you can do it this way, or this way" and was doing the moves himself. But he was on the RADIO so you couldn't exactly see him. Monday tried to recover. Another time, Monday was having a 3 minute conversation with himself and Downing only contributed "that's interesting".
2005-04-18 19:41:53
380.   tomA
here's to chuck the missing cunningham brother...
we are in milwaukee, after all...
2005-04-18 19:42:28
381.   Langhorne
Man, infectious diseases in the clubhouse and tickling ghosts in the hotel. Milwaukee's a tough town.
2005-04-18 19:42:50
382.   Underbruin
HOOOO, Penny gets strikeout #5 on a nasty curve.
2005-04-18 19:42:58
383.   Fearing Blue
"There should be a law against that"

K #5 for Penny.

2005-04-18 19:43:48
384.   GoBears
So we get Monday/Downing on radio for non NL-West road games, the games that are 2-3 hours earlier, and hence during the work day for most of us?

This is why God created Gamecast. And TiVo.

2005-04-18 19:45:28
385.   GoBears
Penny just gave up a monster HR.
2005-04-18 19:45:57
386.   Underbruin
We jinxed it - BP gets taken yard 2 batters later by Andy Tracy (going 8-11 w/2 HR during the current series)
2005-04-18 19:46:09
387.   Fearing Blue
Yeah.. over 435 feet. Yikes.
2005-04-18 19:46:56
388.   Underbruin
Comes back okay - 94MPH then 96MPH strikes knee-high on the black for SO #6.
2005-04-18 19:47:07
389.   GoBears
And then K'd the next guy on 3 95mph+ BBs.
2005-04-18 19:47:08
390.   Matt Conroy
Man, Odalis' hair gets weirder each year. Those shots of him standing on the dugout steps cursing at someone (Tracy? A fan?) were priceless. Glad he got the win.
2005-04-18 20:11:16
391.   adg
Mike Rose goes yard for a 3 runs. 51's now up 5-2. Penny has like 7 k's.
2005-04-18 20:25:49
392.   Fearing Blue
Choo Freeman has a cool name.
2005-04-18 20:35:31
393.   gvette
Meanwhile, in Anaheim (of Los Angeles),
Beltre is 0-2 with a K, and a drive with a man on that died at the warning track.

Right now he looks more like the 99-03 model than last year's (should have been) MVP.

2005-04-18 20:41:41
394.   Fearing Blue
Just picked up most of Penny's final line from the broadcast:

6IP, 2R, 2ER, 1HR, 9K, 2BB
79 Pitches / 59 Strikes

I missed the final count on hits.

2005-04-18 20:48:47
395.   Bob Timmermann
Padres up 4-1 now on the Giants after a bases clearing double by Loretta. Peavy is pitching for San Diego.

Loretta's hit was the first one to reach the outfield in the inning. The Pads loaded the bases on two infield hits and a walk.

2005-04-18 22:13:24
396.   Eric L
Penny's line tonight:

6ip, 5h, 2R, 2ER, 2BB, 9K, 1HR

The 6ip is according to Fearing Blue's post #394.

Or you can look at the full box score yourself:

2005-04-18 22:20:45
397.   Eric L
And something doesn't make sense about that box score. It says that Colorado scored 5 runs in the 5th, yet Penny only gave up 2R during the game and the guy who relieved him, Osoria gave up 1R.

If you want to remain sane, I suggest not looking at the link for the box score I posted.

2005-04-18 22:48:42
398.   adg
I think the 3 in the Sky Sox's 5th is a typo (it should be 0). Their hitters only scored 5 runs and accounted for 5 RBI, and the 51s' pitching log also corroborates the 5 runs allowed.

I think Penny's line from #396 is correct.

2005-04-18 22:57:53
399.   Eric L
Penny's line from my post at #396 is correct.

For a more sane box score, check out this one at

2005-04-18 22:58:52
400.   adg
I swear someone is stuffing the ballot box on the 51's Favorite Player poll. Of 122103 votes, Chin Feng Chen is in the lead with 99% of the vote. Of course, his competition includes none other than Joe Thurston, the proud owner of a .190 batting average.

Check it out:

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2005-04-18 23:08:11
401.   Eric L
Looks like Chuck Tiffany pitched another nice game for Vero Beach...

6ip, 1H, 0R, 0ER, 3BB, 7K

Box score:

2005-04-18 23:21:41
402.   adg
I thought Alvarez was supposed to get in some work for VB tonight? Did I mishear?
2005-04-18 23:38:36
403.   Jim Hitchcock
Alvarez is slated to pitch one inning tomorrow.
2005-04-18 23:42:26
404.   Eric L
Looks like Alvarez will pitch tommorow for VB according to the Times. The article says "today", but I believe it is for tomorrow's edition.
2005-04-18 23:46:33
405.   Eric L
And I can't believe that I spelled "tomorrow" two different ways in my last post.. ugh!
2005-04-19 06:23:53
406.   Eric Enders
#400 - I suspect overseas voting is the reason Chen's winning so easily. He's a national hero in Taiwan to basically the same extent that Nomo is/was in Japan.
2005-04-19 08:16:14
407.   Eric L
Chen's been at Vegas so long that he's like part of the family.
2005-04-19 08:48:22
408.   Marty
Train Wreck Alert:

Bill Plascke will be on the McDonald-Douglas show today at 5:20 pm.

Hijinx ensue...

2005-04-19 08:56:30
409.   Eric Enders
Chen's been at Vegas so long that he's like part of the family.

Ah, Vegas. The only place where "the family" usually includes mobsters, hookers, gambling addicts, and Taiwanese baseball players.

2005-04-19 09:29:51
410.   Eric L
Bill Plascke will be on the McDonald-Douglas show today at 5:20 pm.

Looks like I'll be skipping that one...

2005-04-19 09:33:39
411.   Sam DC reports that Elmer Dessens has 8 lifetime wins against the Brewers, but no more than four against any other team. They call him "Brewer killer Dessens."

In Clash of the Titans news, tonight Randy Johnson goes for the Yankees against Hideo Nomo pitching on 3 days rest.

2005-04-19 09:35:15
412.   Jon Weisman
New day! New thread!
2005-04-20 21:52:25
413.   A E LUTHER
Great call on the radio by Steiner/Monday, with Monday pointing out that the disapointed Bradley was the first off the bench to greet Drew/Kent...

Steiner: "Who are these guys?"

Shades of '88?

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