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Update: Norihiro Nakamura starts over Hee Seop Choi at first base, against a right-handed pitcher (Woody Williams). Unless Choi is suddenly ailing, this is a pretty big statement from Jim Tracy. Nakamura, for his part, is only 3 for 14 with no walks himself this season. His OPS of .500 is lower than Choi's (.565), which is saying nothing except that there's conclusive evidence about neither player. Looks like auditions are in full swing.
Jason Repko also gets the start against the right-handed Williams, which leads me to check something ... look at that. Since 2002, Williams OPS allowed vs. righties is .726 and vs. lefties is .663.
Make of it all what you will ...
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LOCAL OPERATOR** CITY CHANNEL #
ADELPHIA (April 20 only) LOS ANGELES METRO 10
ADELPHIA (April 20 only) BEVERLY HILLS/WEST HOLLYWOOD 20
ADELPHIA (April 20 only) AGOURA/CAMARILLO/FILLMORE/MOORPARK/
NEWBURY PARK/OAK PARK/OJAI/OXNARD/PORT HEUNEME/SANTA PAULA/SIMI VALLEY/THOUSAND OAKS/WESTLAKE VILLAGE 12
ADELPHIA (April 20 only) EAST VENTURA 10
ADELPHIA (April 20 only) INLAND EMPIRE 10
ADELPHIA (April 20 only) EAST SAN FERNANDO VALLEY 10
ADELPHIA SAN BERNARDINO 10
ADELPHIA HEMET/TEMECULA/PERRIS 10
BRIGHTHOUSE BAKERSFIELD/TEHACHAPI 21
CHARTER SAN GABRIEL VALLEY 101
CHARTER MALIBU 101
CHARTER GLENDALE 101/117
COX PALOS VERDES/SAN PEDRO 12
COX SOUTH & CENTRAL ORANGE COUNTY 3
COX SANTA BARBARA/GOLETA 4
DIRECTV* SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA/LAS VEGAS/HAWAII 650
DISH (April 18 only)* SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 451
TIME WARNER WEST SAN FERNANDO VALLEY 698
TIME WARNER SOUTH PASADENA 698
TIME WARNER GARDEN GROVE/ORANGE COUNTY/SOUTH BAY 698
TIME WARNER PALM DESERT 10
but not Dish. Does Dish have any RSNA channels, Steve?
You mean benching Choi? He's doing it for his own good-- Hee Seop has been eating nothing but vegetables for the past few days. With all that fiber in him, who knows what pants-filling adventures we'll see if Choi sees an errant Woody Williams fastball headed right at him.
I had to look that one up. It looks like it should be spelled RSNa.
Some systems have them.
Either that or someone wanted to join the Radiological Society of North America.
a) if Choi struggled, there were any number of options at first base for Tracy and
b) Tracy is far from convinced of Choi's ability, as evidenced by his comments that Choi perhaps shouldn't be playing against guys who happen to throw hard.
And I'm not sure he's wrong, folks. Yes, I am the self-proclaimed biggest fan of Choi, largely because I thought he would be the media whipping boy and I thought Choi would be exhibit A of the Depodesta model. But I honestly have to say that Choi has looked horrific at the plate. Nakamura is, what, a ten-time Gold Glove? He may not be smashing the ball but no one has looked worse at the plate than Choi. Not since DeShields went horribly south have I seen a semi-regular look so lost. We may as well see that NOri can do before folks start getting healthy and other folks start getting sent down.
Sure it hurts. Researching Choi was fun. But the Dodgers have the best record in baseball. That's more fun. Because they have such a record, the Depodesta model will hardly be suffering in the eyes of the ignorant or incisive fan if Choi falls by the wayside.
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TODAY'S FACT OF CHOI, SB'S FAVORITE PLAYER, 2005:
If you've ever been to a minor league baseball game, you know that some things happen that you just don't see in the big league ballparks: crazy promotions, crazy sound effects, crazy music... it's all there. The idea is, let's have a fun time, win or lose. At times, such a philosophy goes too far, like it did in August of 2000.
The Iowa Cubs were visiting the Nashville Sounds. Brian Kirsch was the sound man for the Sounds and he saw it as his job to do what he could to throw off the other team. He had apparently been warned to watch himself and he apparently did not take the warning to heart. So before one of Choi's plate appearances, he was treated to the Carl Douglas classic, "Kung Fu Fighting". Another time Choi came up, he played David Bowie's "China Girl."
Choi wasn't the only one subjected to, ah, racially questionable music. Shortstop Pee Wee Lopez was treated to the song "Tequila" and another song that referenced burritos (can't find the title, sorry).
After the Cubs not so subtly brought the incident to the attention of the Nashville front office, Kirsch was fired.
"I don't know that that was any more offensive to (Choi) than anything else I've played for any of the other guys," Kirsch said to The (Nashville) Tennessean. "My wife is from Thailand. My job was to push the envelope, unbalance the other team and entertain the crowd. I don't regret anything I did."
It is not clear if Choi or the Cubs players were bothered by what happened according to this quote I found: "I have not spoken to [Choi] about it, nor has he or anyone else in the locker room come to me or said anything to me about it," said Cubs General Manager Sam Bernabe.
FWIW, Choi at the time was rated the 22nd best prospect in the minor leagues by Baseball America.
If they have an old Shawn Green jersey laying around, DePo could wear that. Maybe the Pads will forget he was traded to Arizona.
Have to remove the name, though.
But we shall see.
I only saw him play in person once in Japan and he left that game early after getting drilled in the arm by a pitcher who was struggling. I got to see a bench-clearing brawl, Japan-style.
Nori didn't get involved in the fight except for dropping his bat and screaming in pain. Tuffy Rhodes went out to the pitcher and administered some justice.
Not a problem this year, everyone's names are gone.
Last call on the t-shirts. I tossed up a webpage to compete with Eric. The response has been great so I'll look for them next month at the yard. (Ignore this if you emailed already.)
http://tinyurl.com/8ez6z
I like Choi and his history and his stats. At this point, however, we have lots of other options that might work as well as a guy hitting .140. Also, if Perez hadn't been hurt, it would have probably been Perez at 2B and Kent at 1B.
I don't want the decision to play Choi to become as political as the anti-Moneyball people are. It's not like he's a productive .140. DePo has built a team where if Choi doesn't work, we have other ways to go, and he gets credit for that anyway.
Is this me writing this, or has an alien taken my brain over? I cannot say.
I agree with Icaros though. That swing does not look made for the high heat.
me idiot in small caps :)
me idiot in small caps :)*
My bad. Me Idiot is an anagram for Tie Domi, it's habit to write it in all caps.
No, I don't speak or read Japanese.
Thank God.
I'm just kinda sitting and monitoring it to see if the CPU load goes bonkers like it did during yesterday's game. So far, it hasn't, but we don't have several hundred comments yet, either.
It's the new "Eastern corn-fed pork."
It should be Nakamura's error.
No.
No, two, which is what you have now. The question is, which is better, having Kent at his natural position or Nakamura? I'd go with the former, as does Tracy.
http://tinyurl.com/cztbq
Vin also seems eager for the Dodgers' "luck" to run out.
Hernandez played the tag well but just missed Phillips, who, in trying to get out of the way of the tag, got himself about as far away from the plate as you can get while still being in the dirt around the plate. His second effort failed and he was tagged out. You might see it on the highlights, but it won't be pretty.
How can you tell which one is which that soon? Can you pick out identical twins right away? Won't they all look the same more or less?
I have no children, so fill me in here people.
Athletes don't think things through very often.
Bonderman makes 400k with Detroit, who have no real shot at contending.
We have a need for a legit 5th starter (sorry Scott, but I just can't bank on ya)
Would Detroit be interested in either a Bonderman for Choi or Edwin Jackson type deal?
Hell, throw them both in.
The way I see it, we'd have a VERY deep starting rotation and won't take on any large salaries.
I feel like we could also find a first baseman without too much trouble (one that is at least as good as Choi anyways).
You're assuming Detroit doesn't think very highly of Bonderman.
Choi .167/.265/.300
Nakamura .214/214/.286
Grabowski .250/.333/.500
None have anywhere near enough at bats to have a decent sample size, but if if Tracy really insists on benching Choi and playing someone out of position, why not Grabowski?
A manager has two players - one is hitting .170 with a HR and a couple doubles and some walks, and the other is hitting .200 only singles. Both have ugly swings. One is a first baseman, one is a third baseman. One is young with some perceived upside, one is an older player from Japan. One bats lefty, the other righty.
So, please tell me why this manager would start the righty-hitting third baseman with no power or patience at first base against a righty pitcher? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
I would assume that if you're having triplets, that the doctors go and get them out for you, so maybe they can all be sorted out better that way.
Sorry, childbirth is quite foreign to me. Multiple childbirth seems really scary.
Hopefully it will remain a spectator sport for you.
There's something where being a "practice player" is a positive thing.
Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming.
Still, its good to dream!
Its also way too early to be thinking of trades, but I just was thinking what possibilities are out there, July will be here before you know it!
With the ultrasound, you can probably differentiate the kids by where they are in the womb. I don't know how you can tell that the kids are identical or fraternal, though.
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Even if he was,Moneyball discusses how po'd Beane was that his scouting director drafted him in the first round, which is why he got rid of him. Bet DePo feels the same way about Bonderman.
1) Tracey is allowed to hate him because he has not produced. Some of you act like he hasn't been given a chance at all.
2) Choi has 30 AB; Nak has 14. Nak may not be doing any better but let's give him a chance and see if he is better than Choi. At least judge them on a semi-equal sample size. To do otherwise is very un-moneyball of you.
He got pissed because he was a HSer. Now that he's got 3 years of pro ball behind him, their opinion has most likely shifted. The walks and HR could come down but he's got a good K rate.
If you're Detroit, playing in a new park no one wants to come to, and rebuilding since 1987, no way you give him up, flaws and all.
Besides, if you're DePo and have young arms a year or so away on the farm, Bonderman isn't worth the price to get him.
This could be another one in that ilk.
I don't think that would have anything to do with it. Beane wasn't pissed they drafted Bonderman, he was pissed they drafted a HS pitcher. For all we know, Beane and DePo might be favorable towards Bonderman by now. But at the time, they hated it, because the odds were heavily against Bonderman succeeding.
"The Cubs beat the Pirates 6-4... Did I say they were in Chicago? The Cubs were in St. Louis and beat the Reds 3-1."
On the other hand, since that mistake at the beginning of the game Nakamura has made several nice catches over at first.
Vin just said he's at 105.
what do you mean about lowe turning singles and walks into doubles? what's he doing? i can't watch the game right now.
Yeah, but it's the 7th in a one run game, you gotta pinch hit.
I do have a problem with him staying in if he's about to get shelled. That Blum shot was very close.
Greg Maddux gives up a lot of them too.
Ken -- For what it's worth, I like the comment bars. Were the comment numbers always bolded or am I imagining things? Also, while we've got you, can you tell me if there's an archive search feature if we want to rustle up a past post or comment? (And apologies if I'm just missing something obvious.) Thx.
AND JD DO!
i like saying the whole thing: "who do?? jd drew!"
There is no search yet; if you want to archive search, just go to google and enter site:baseballtoaster.com along with your search term.
Or will there be more Lowe?
And now Lowe's still out there on his 110th pitch against the middle of the order? Just nonsense.
Lowe needs to be done now, regardless of who comes in or the result.
isn't this one of those spots were one batter too soon is better than one batter too late?
phew
Judging by his Gameday photo.
Vazquez pitched pretty well. Now it's up to the crack DBack bullpen.
now it's time to save us with the bat.
How often do you get to hear Vinny in the Deep South? I ask you.
Anyway, turn to ESPN2, non-So Cal people!
jeez those padres uniforms are putrid
DON'T BUNT THIS TIME, MILTON!
think they'll walk valentin to get to choi?
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
baby steps..
baby steps..
man, that's a clutch hit from Valentin
My, oh my.
GHAME OVER!
(course i waited for gameday 1st)
Sure sounds like it to me.
No kidding.
bonus coverage on ESPN was the Giants/D'backs-why?
"Who are these guys?"
The indians are in big trouble. Their catcher and Hafner are the only decent hitters on that team. corA is starting ss and sees 10 pitches at bat. Can't tell about colon but they sut the MPH off after he threw 87 fastballs for the first two innings.
We deserve this Dodger start.
If there were any justice in this world, MLB would disqualify them when they took the field in those things.
They do seem to have a prediliction for uniforms that remind me of tacos...
http://tinyurl.com/9oxvw
Brown road unis. Enough said.
Sure wish the Dodgers would put their names on the back of their uniforms.
vr
Xeifrank
The Dodgers are another team that has been boosted by offseason acquisitions, specifically former Giants second baseman Jeff Kent. The Dodgers are still waiting for J.D. Drew to get hot, but Kent leads the team in RBI and is tied for the team lead in home runs. He is batting .354 and has spurred the Dodgers' early success.
Holdovers like Cesar Izturis and Milton Bradley have also contributed, and the offensive success is a little bit of a surprise when you consider guys like Adrian Beltre, Steve Finley and Shawn Green left town during the offseason.
Who would have thought the Dodgers would lead the National League in runs at this point considering all those losses. But Los Angeles fans are pleasantly surprised and the fan support at Dodger Stadium shows that.
For the morbidly curious, the Clippers won at New Orleans in their last game. The Lakers lost at Portland. The Lakers finished tied for last place in their division with Golden State.
So, when do the Stanley Cup Playoffs start?
I have to get up early. This has been a great couple of weeks boys. WHAT A TEAM!!!
(I'm getting paranoid too, must go to sleep)
"All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine."
1-1
4.00 ERA
18 ip
Day game Sunday?
He said little with a lot of words, but at least he wasn't condescending or offering any backhanded compliments. At least nothing blatantly bad.
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