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They Paved Paradise ...
2005-05-03 11:09
by Jon Weisman

Tour the spots where major league ballparks of yesteryear sat (or sit), courtesy of Rob McMillin at 6-4-2 and Google satellite images.

2005-05-03 11:54:21
1.   Dodgerkid
Thanks Rob. Braves Field is a track and field sight at Boston University my alma mater. There is a plaque there commemorating Braves Field, and the Boston University police station is in one of the old ticket booths. Other than that it is gone. I didn't know Ebbets is now tenements. I've driven past there on my way to Long Island. At least I think I have.
2005-05-03 12:17:51
2.   Eric Enders
Pretty cool. I've been to several of these sites post-demolition, including Ebbets Field, Forbes Field, Huntington Ave Grounds, and Braves Field.

A lot of the structural stuff from Braves Field is still intact, as is the playing field. There are some high-rise dorms still overlooking the field, which was being used for soccer and field hockey when I was there. Would've been pretty cool to live there while the Braves were still playing there.

When I visited the site of Ebbets Field, now a slum tenement, there were tons of fliers around from bus companies offering discount fares for conjugal visits to Attica.

Forbes was by far the coolest; a line of brick runs across streets and sidewalks marking where the outfield wall once stood. (Part of the wall is still standing, too.) A plaque on the sidewalk marks where Mazeroski's homer cleared the fence, and home plate remains embedded where it's always been -- only now it's inside the ground floor of a U-Pitt building, covered with clear lucite.

And, off topic: The Counting Crows' cover of the song referenced in Jon's headline is actually pretty darn good.

2005-05-03 12:43:07
3.   Bob Timmermann
At first I didn't see the word "cover" in Eric's comment and I was going to get on my high horse.

I saw Forbes Field's home plate last year. I was told it was moved a bit from its original position so it wouldn't in a bathroom. Freshman orientation groups at Pitt (although they prefer Pittsburgh) were all told where it was and about the history of Forbes Field.

I don't know if there is a nicer new park in baseball than PNC Park. All it needs is a team better than the current Pirates playing in it.

2005-05-03 12:51:36
4.   Icaros
At first I didn't see the word "cover" in Eric's comment and I was going to get on my high horse.

Am I to assume that you are currently posting from your low horse?

2005-05-03 13:01:07
5.   Jacob L
When trying to visit the Ebbets Field site, I confused it with the site that O'Malley had wanted for a new ballpark - Atlantic @ Flatbush. I wandered aimlessly for about an hour,saw more of Brooklyn than I otherwise would have, then went back to Manhattan. Funny thing is, at least as of then (about 5-6 years ago), there was still a big, empty space that would be just about ideal for a ballpark. Its right on top of a major transit hub, and adjacent to downtown Brooklyn.
2005-05-03 13:30:27
6.   Eric Enders
The story is, Robert Moses felt the Flatbush/Atlantic location was too smack in the middle of Brooklyn, and would bring traffic throughout the borough to a standstill.

He wanted to give O'Malley the current site of Shea Stadium instead.

2005-05-03 13:41:29
7.   spacebrother
Too bad there's so many old minor league parks that have bitten the dust. I was particularly disappointed when a shopping mall was built over the remainder of the old Gilmore Field, former home of the PCL Hollywood Stars. Before construction started, I could still make out a curved row of eucalyptus trees that demarcated the line of the outfield fence. As far as I can tell, there is no commemorative plaque in the mall, but they did have a short-lived exhibit on the stadium in an out-of-the-way display case, complete with a Hollywood Stars jersey, courtesy of Ebbets Field Flannels of course.

Greg B.

2005-05-03 13:54:15
8.   scareduck
Thanks for the link, Jon. Greg -- I had thought to do some of the old PCL parks. In fact, Seals Stadium, which I did get to, was one such, though I missed the Angels' old home of Wrigley.
2005-05-03 14:53:33
9.   mcrawford
I live several blocks away from former Seals Stadium.

It is, as they say, the site of "commercial stores" now. The main one being Safeway, where we do our grocery shopping.

It also has Office Depot, Old Navy, Blockbuster, Togo's, Pete's Coffee, Radio Shack, Boston Market, Ross, and a couple other little stores. Your basic modern-day strip mall.

2005-05-03 14:58:11
10.   mcrawford
Also, behind Safeway (upper left-hand corner of the picture) is the Hostess Fruit Pie factory. You can really smell those Fruit Pies.

Note: "Clearly Glazed"

2005-05-03 15:00:04
11.   gvette
I've driven past the site of LA Wrigley Field (42nd and Avalon) a few times. The property is now a city park. The area is not too great. I think the PCLHS was going to put a plaque at the site, like they did at Gilmore Field.

I recall that just a few years ago construction crews excavated the remnants of the dugouts at the Gilmore Field site. Not sure if it was due to the Grove construction, or an expansion of the CBS TV facilities.

2005-05-03 17:00:21
12.   DL04
Re: #7

I used to work at CBS Studios, and it wasn't the Grove shopping mall that was built over old Gilmore Field, it was Television City. There is indeed a plaque near the audience waiting area for one of the studios (either studio 41 or 43) that pays tribute to Gilmore Field and the Hollywood Stars.

On one of the walls deep in the bowels of TVC, where the public can't see it, is a photo history of the less-famous Gilmore Stadium, which stood on the corner of Beverly and Fairfax, adjacent to Gilmore Field and Farmer's Market. From what I can remember, they used to hold drag races and exhibition football games there.

2005-05-04 00:22:44
13.   spacebrother
Re #12: On the site I linked, there was a description of just what you describe, but apparently they left part of the outfield intact. This was finally destroyed when the Grove went up. Now it just creates traffic snarl in my neighborhood. Open space apparently makes developers nauseous.

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