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Tiffany Out for Two Weeks or More
2005-05-06 11:17
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Vero Beach lefthander Chuck Tiffany "was placed on the disabled list and is expected to miss two-to-three weeks with minor back surgery," reports Baseball America today.

In other news, Nick Christensen of the Las Vegas Sun reports that Eric Gagne is tentatively scheduled to make his first rehabilitation apperance with Las Vegas on May 14. Jayson Werth joins the 51s tonight.

Comments
2005-05-06 11:26:36
1.   molokai
Could explain why his last start was so bad.

I think this is our Oscar Robles. He's struggling in Mexico and has only put up a
383/468/561 line so far in 107 ab's. He appears to be playing for the "Diablos Rojos del Mexico" team. I don't know the MLE's for the Mexican league but I would think that he might be able to help.
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&did=milb&cid=532

2005-05-06 11:39:43
2.   Marty
Completely off topic, but this is a rather amusing website:
http://baseballtonight.blogspot.com/
2005-05-06 11:58:24
3.   Eric Enders
Robles plays in the same crazy-wacky park where the Dodgers and Mets played some exhibition games a couple of years ago.

As far as I can tell, it's the best hitter's park in professional baseball -- much more hitter-friendly than Coors Field. (Park factor of 119; Coors is around 111).

Still, those are some ungodly numbers Robles is putting up, just as he has in the past. His game isn't really based on power so much, so I wonder if the park helps him as much as it does others.

2005-05-06 11:59:32
4.   Mr Customer
Ughh,

When is surgery ever good? Especially for a 20-year old pitcher...

BTW, a caveat on Oscar. Mexico City is 2200 feet higher than Denver. Didn't the '03 Dodgers and Mets score something like 80 runs in a 3 game exhibition series in that park? Not that we should be splitting hairs if Iz isn't available.

2005-05-06 12:02:13
5.   Mr Customer
Geez! Beat to the punch by 50 seconds by Enders.
2005-05-06 12:03:34
6.   scareduck
Okay, I've had enough. First Jackson, now Tiffany. TINSTAPP, especially for the Dodgers.
2005-05-06 12:08:07
7.   Mr Customer
I'm starting to understand why they say "there's no such thing as a pitching prospect"
2005-05-06 12:12:19
8.   Eric Enders
It sounds like Tiffany's injury is nothing to get too excited over, though.
2005-05-06 12:13:11
9.   Mr Customer
Insufficient Data
2005-05-06 12:55:54
10.   fernandomania
Posted by Tommy LaSorda on the baseballtonight.blogspot.com website:

"Last night the Dodgers were off, so I made my nightly rounds and visited each player at home. To keep our team chemistry together, I like to do drills with players even on off-days. First I drove over to Derek Lowe's house, put on the catching gear and he threw 24 simulated innings to me. Derek really had his best stuff, and only walked two ghost-men and gave up a ground rule double. This is LA baseball!"

I am laughing too hard to remain inconspicuous in my cubicle.

2005-05-06 13:13:53
11.   Marty
There's really some hilarious stuff on this site. Whoever thought it up is probably being sued as we speak. I like the John Kruk portion:

"Krukker here. I've been nice on Baseball Tonight. I've been encouraging, even when someone says something "vacuous." But it's time for some "Kruk Love," Major League Baseball. I hate to be the one to say this, and I don't wanna criticize ya'll because, really, you're all great, but most of you players today wouldn't know how to play the game if it burped in your face."

2005-05-06 13:14:04
12.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Let's not get too worked up over the back surgery, until we hear more about it, eh?

I've never heard of a surgery where the recovery time was 2-3 weeks. This may really not be all that serious. You gotta worry about anything related to the back, but how much we should worry remains to be seen.

WWSH

2005-05-06 13:29:34
13.   Linkmeister
"I've never heard of a surgery where the recovery time was 2-3 weeks."

I'll give you one. Inguinical hernia. However, that recovery was to the basic cubicle-type employment, not baseball at the MLB (or even Little League) level.

2005-05-06 13:32:39
14.   Dodgerkid
HAHAHAHAH that baseball tonight blog is absolutely hilarious. The photoshop of Gammons is spectacular. Who the hell is the writer? He's really good.
2005-05-06 13:34:39
15.   Im So Blue
From the Daily Breeze (about 3/4 of the way into the article):

http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/articles/1550172.html

"Recently, some fans have suggested the Dodgers change the "Game over" slogan flashed on the scoreboard as Gagne enters games to "Ghame over", a play on the spelling of Brazoban's first name."

2005-05-06 13:34:47
16.   Eric Enders
In October, Schilling had surgery and pitched later the same day. Of course, he paid the price for it later.
2005-05-06 13:40:58
17.   Eric Enders
Great to see Ghame Over getting more pub. I'm hoping we see one of the T-shirts on TV at some point.

I'm sending one to Yhency too.

Also, while we're on the topic, a thousand thank yous to Brendan for acting as our shirt distributor. It worked out well, as you guys will get your shirts sooner than if I had mailed them from NY.

It looks like we'll end up with 4 or 5 extras; once I figure out the exact number I'll make a post and put the ordering link back online, and they'll be first come, first served.

2005-05-06 13:45:36
18.   franklin
Since I missed the first round order of Ghame Over, can I start standing in line now?
2005-05-06 13:52:40
19.   Eric Enders
Sorry, franklin, but we've gotta wait because I don't know the exact number available yet.

The game-worn Brooklyn jerseys are being auctioned on Dodgers.com... the 15 highest bids:

Derek Lowe $ 2810.00
Cesar Izturis $ 2188.00
Eric Gagne $ 1511.00
Milton Bradley $ 1510.00
Jeff Kent $ 1510.00
Manny Mota $ 930.00
Norihiro Nakamura $ 911.00
J.D. Drew $ 790.00
Don Newcombe Ceremonial-worn $ 720.00
Tommy Lasorda $ 640.00
Jim Lett $ 606.00
Yhency Brazoban $ 600.00
Hee-Seop Choi $ 530.00
Odalis Perez $ 530.00
Jason Repko $ 530.00

I hope Mrs. Lett enjoys her jersey.

2005-05-06 14:03:09
20.   Adam M
Is there ever such a thing as "minor back surgery"? Anyone I've ever known who's had it says it made the problem worse. Get a second opinion, chuckles!
2005-05-06 14:14:16
21.   Eric Enders
Ben Sheets had "minor back surgery" (Will Carroll's terminology) this offseason and appears no worse for wear.

It would certainly be nice to get some specifics on Tiffany's injury, though.

Happy thought of the day: Eric Gagne had Tommy John surgery at Tiffany's age, and still seems to have turned out OK.

2005-05-06 14:21:37
22.   Bob Timmermann
My "Ghame Over" shirt arrived today.

Thanks to whomever donated it to me!

2005-05-06 14:40:00
23.   Eric Enders
So, is there a holiday in L.A. today that I'm not aware of? Why are there only about 1/5 as many posts as yesterday?
2005-05-06 14:43:55
24.   Jon Weisman
Seis de Mayo?
2005-05-06 14:45:18
25.   Jim Hitchcock
Day of the Lurkers?
2005-05-06 14:45:33
26.   Jon Weisman
LaTroy Hawkins relieved Mark Prior to start the ninth after a two-run HR by Derrek Lee gave the Cubs a 2-1 lead.

single by Burrell
single by Bell
strikeout by Howard
walk to Offerman, loading the bases

2005-05-06 14:46:33
27.   Jon Weisman
and with Polanco up, two-run error by Hawkins. 3-2 Phils.
2005-05-06 14:48:22
28.   Marty
More from "Gammons" on the pseudo-baseball tonight blog:

"According to many observers, Royals closer Ambiorix Burgos is being rushed to the majors. "He's gonna flame out faster than Macaulay Culkin after 'Richie Rich,'" complained one AL general manager. "At this rate, they might as well send him to extended spring training at the Neverland Ranch once Jeremy Affeldt comes back."

2005-05-06 14:48:46
29.   Jon Weisman
Prior: 8 innings, 4 hits, 1 walk, 10 K

Lee: 2-run HR off Billy Wagner

All gone.

Hawkins caught a line drive by Polanco to the mound, then threw it away, I'm guessing, going for the game-ending DP.

2005-05-06 14:52:37
30.   the OZ
Lends credence to the "Jeff Brantley" article on closers on BBTN...
2005-05-06 14:53:15
31.   franklin
The anguish in Santo's voice after Hawkin's throwaway almost brought a tear to my eye.

Don't think I could survive as a Cub fan.

Phillies win...

2005-05-06 14:59:07
32.   Ryan Jerz
Speaking of shirts, Many thanks to BigCPA for this one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrjerz/12595657/

2005-05-06 15:07:25
33.   Vic
Many thanks to whomever posted the BBTN link -- there's some priceless stuff there. The Bill Simmons and Gregg Easterbrook pieces had me in stitches.
2005-05-06 15:18:35
34.   Sam DC
I haven't posted because Eric set the bar so darn high with his movie bit I haven't known what to say. You should re-comment that when the game thread comes up, so other, saner folks who don't park here all day can enjoy.

(That comment reminds me that, at some point, when we've settled in with the new faces a bit more, you're contractually obligated to update your "If the Dodgers were your old Girlfriends" taxonomy.)

2005-05-06 15:25:49
35.   Nagman
For those anxiously awaiting the word, Yahoo has the lineup. Izzy is in, Saenz at 3b.
2005-05-06 15:27:26
36.   Bob Timmermann
I've spent much of the day doing something Eric doesn't: sleep.

If I stayed up 65 hours, I'd be hospitalized.
Since I'm sleeping, I'm obviously not at work. I'm headed to Disney Hall for a concert tonight, so I won't be watching the game. I'll be working Saturday and Sunday. And then be taking in an Angels game Monday night.

I hear they're well-run.

2005-05-06 15:29:54
37.   Eric Enders
Sam,
Thanks! I won't be around tonight for the game thread, but if someone wants to repost it that's fine with me.
2005-05-06 15:30:06
38.   Jon Weisman
Game chat is open! Pack your bags!
2005-05-06 15:32:37
39.   brendan glynn
T-shirts have been mailed. Out of state went yesterday afternoon, in state(calif) went out today at noon.
USPS 2-3 buiness day priority(so 3-5 days usually)

Out of state start looking about tues-Wed of next week.
In state say about wed-thur(possibly earlier for O.C./L.A.)

Of course USPS could surprise but never in a good way.
i'll try to e-mail everyone as well but that is a ton of indvidual e-mails an I don't want to do one large e-mail for privacy reasons. No idea what I was getting myself into. Hope to see them at the Stadium.

2005-05-06 15:53:25
40.   brendan glynn
22. Bob Timmermann
My "Ghame Over" shirt arrived today.
Thanks to whomever donated it to me!

That's great because it went out yesterday. OC/LA orders look for them to arrive Mon-tuesday if you all have Bob's mailman

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