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Some Oscar Robles history from Jose De Jesus Ortiz of the Houston Chronicle:
... He split 70 games between Class AA Jackson and Class A Kissimmee in 1998, but he couldn't overcome the depression that set in when his mother died.
The eldest of three sons, he wanted to be back in Tijuana helping his father.
The Astros released him after he didn't report to camp in 1999.
"Just imagine: I didn't want to keep playing professionally after my mother died," he said. "I wanted to help my two younger brothers. They were younger and I felt as though I couldn't leave them there. We were in a difficult situation. I preferred to stay in my home." ...
Does somebody pull a string from the back of Dodger Manager Jim Tracy before he conducts a postgame interview or does he just rattle off those redundant excuses and cliches on his own?
Larry Yells
Hermosa Beach
Random Dodger game callback
July 9, 1915
Despite its ace pitcher, Jeff Pfeffer, getting knocked out of the box early, Brooklyn rallied from an early 7-1 deficit to defeat the first place Cubs, 8-7 in 10 innings at Ebbets Field before a crowd of about 4,000. The Dodgers balanced their record at 35-35, five games behind Chicago and tied for fourth with Pittsburgh.
The Cubs got to Pfeffer in the first, scoring twice on two hits and a walk. Brooklyn got one of them back in the bottom half, but in the top of the second Chicago's Cy Williams hit a home run to make it 3-1.
In the fourth, the Cubs knocked out Pfeffer, thanks to a triple from Vic Saier and Williams' second homer of the game. Manager Wilbert Robinson called on veteran Rap Rucker, and the now clichéd "soft-tossing lefty" kept the Cubs in check the rest of the game although the Dodgers were down 7-1.
But Brooklyn came back against Cubs starter George Pierce. The Dodgers scored a run in the bottom of the fourth to make it 7-2. In the sixth, Brooklyn had runners on first and third with two outs, when shortstop Ollie O'Mara scorched a liner down to third that Cubs third baseman Art Phelan couldn't handle and two runs scored to make it 7-4. Jake Daubert walked and Zack Wheat singled in O'Mara and sent Pierce out of the game in favor of Pete Standridge. George Cutshaw singled off of him to make it 7-6 Chicago.
In the sixth, an error set the stage for Rucker to drive in Lew McCarthy with the tying run. It was Rucker's second RBI of the day.
The game remained tied into extra innings. In the bottom of the tenth. O'Mara had a one-out single against Standridge. Daubert then doubled to right center to score O'Mara and send home the crowd happy for the weekend.
The Dodgers improved again in 1915 and finished 80-72, good enough for third place, 10 games behind surprising winner Philadelphia. What made the record even more surprising is that the Dodgers were outscored by 24 runs on the season. The third place finish was the best for the Dodgers since 1902.
Brooklyn was hard-pressed to mount much offense on the season. Daubert led the team with a .301 average. Wheat batted only .258, his worst year in his career.
Despite the bad outing this day, Pfeffer went 19-14 with a 2.10 ERA. (Pfeffer was the second Jeff Pfeffer to pitch for the Dodgers. His older brother, Big Jeff Pfeffer, pitched in the 1900s. Neither man's name was really Jeff and Big Jeff was actually smaller than Jeff.) Jack Coombs came over from the Philadelphia Athletics and went 15-10 with a 2.58 ERA. The veteran Rucker pitched in just 19 games with a 2.42 ERA. Rube Marquard wore out his welcome with the Giants and joined Brooklyn in August.
The National League was in flux in 1915. The rival Federal League had siphoned off players. The long dominant Pirates, Cubs, and Giants all finished in the second division with the Giants in last place. New teams had a chance to make it in to the World Series. But the change wouldn't last long.
Thanks to the New York Times, BaseballReference.com and Retrosheet
Seriously, just wanted to quickly thank all who responded to the Dodger Thoughts Adam Dunn Scouting Excursion and double thanks to Jon for posting info on it. The winning game was July 27th, by the by. I'll send Jon a report on the game, Jon will (ahem) edit judiciously... it should be fun.
One more thing: I'd like a win today, please. For my last day at Staples, let's make it an "easy" win.
Also, it seems like more evidence Weisman's theory is correct: Tracy disparaging Choi's glove just seems like sour grapes. Suspect Tracy didn't like Choi, didn't want to trade for him, and maybe got The Trade shoved down his throat. If that's the case and we have Mr. Irresistable Force not playing nice with Mr. Immovable Object, the salient question may be: which is easier to replace, a first basemen who can hit like Choi for that little money, or Jim Tracy?
My two cents is that this conflict has been going on since Day One: last year, I went to the game when Gagne's save streak was blown by Lenny Harris. Choi had recently arrived on the Dodgers, and blew out of the tunnel out after the game like the unhappiest man you have ever seen. At least 30 minutes before anyone else.
Also, I know Simers is like a bad rash & we just need to ignore him until he goes away, but how the hell is he bitching about McCourt not opening up his wallet to free agents? Kent, Drew, Lowe and Perez? You'd rather spend your money on Beltre, Lo Duca, Mota, Finley and Cora?
Dodger batters vs. Oswalt
Choi 1 for 5, 4 K
Dessesns 1 for 2, 1 K
Grabowski 0 for 1
Kent 0 for 1
Ledee 0 for 1
Werth 3 for 3
Those are the only players on the current 25-man roster who have batted against Oswalt.
He's faced the Dodgers just four times and is 2-2.
Oswalt is 14-0 in his career against the Reds.
Astros vs. Weaver
Ausmus 4 for 9
Berkamn 1 for 2, HR
Biggio, 3 for 10
Ensberg, 2 for 6
Everett, 1 for 6
Lamb, 4 for 14
Palmeiro, 3 for 12
Petitte, 1 for 2
Vizcaino, 2 for 6
Edwards bats seventh and Grabowski 8th. Werth bats 4th and Phillips bats 5th.
First four the same for Houston (Taveres, Biggio, Berkman, Ensberg)
Then:
Lamb 1B
Palmeiro RF
Vizcaino SS
Ausmus C
Robles: .962
Repko: .983
Kent: .619
Werth: .730
Phillips: .749
Choi: .466
Edwards: .866
Grabowski: .301
In 277 career major league at-bats, Grabowski has posted a .641 OPS. Doesn't Henri Stanley, also a left-handed outfielder, have to be a better option at this point? Coming into this season, their minor league totals were remarkably similar.
- DJ Houlton Over/Under is a merciful 5 IPs.
(OVER)
- Over/Under on Dodger runs is 2.
(PUSH)
- Over/Under on Dodger hits is 6
(OVER)
- Over/Under on Clemens Ks is 11.
(WAY UNDER)
vr, Xei
Weaver 6 2/3 IPs
Dodger Runs: 3
Dodger Hits: 8
Astro HRs: 2
Choi Total Bases: 1.5
vr, Xei
I don't think I correct grammar. I used to correct spelling until Jon told me to do it offline.
And I make enough typos to keep the spell check business alive and well.
vr, Xei
Man, Psycho's sidekick sounds a lot like Harry Shearer...
Under
Over
Under (today is Dodger Scratch and Claw Day at the ballpark)
Over (Weaver at Enron + a couple of his famous "Momentary Lapses in Focus" brought to you by Cheech & Chong gives up 2 HRs & gets yanked, pen's good for at least 1 more)
Over
http://tinyurl.com/7ljxt
vr, Xei
But I'm at work.
AB - Phillips 184; Choi 189
AVG - Phillips .245; Choi .243
HR - Phillips 3; Choi 12
RBI - Phillips 24; Choi 29
OPS - Phillips .631; Choi .779
No justification whatsoever. I've made the switch:
www.firejimtracy.com
Thought the reason we gave Tracy the job was because the young guys we brought up from the system (Izturis, Lo Duca, Cora, Gagne), and were about to bring up (Thurston, Jackson, Hanrahan, etc.) all knew and respected him. Few of the purported reasons for hiring Tracy remain, and he does stupid shit that alienates the new talent: hitting Werth third ahead of Kent, the million slights to Choi, any time he's called Erickson's number, etc. There is a clear philosophical conflict between Tracy and management, which Tracy is refusing to accomodate. Most new GMs dump the manager/coach in short order; DePodesta has been magnanimous in this respect, but the gulf is too wide.
More to the point, can anyone see Tracy being an effective manager anywhere else?
vr, Xei
On the other hand, I have to see a dentist this morning anyway, so maybe if I'm not paying attention they'll win.
vr, Xei
For the fellow radio listeners, I ask who is more annoying:
1. Paul, I am the King of Big Screens
2. Larry Miller(or your mattress is Free!) of SitnSleep
3. Bobby, the kid who cavorts with the Dodgers' weakest fulltime announcer and tries to get people to donate cars.
4. The first ever draft choice of MLB (by the KC A's, a center field from ASU.)
We haven't even hit the all star break
vr, Xei
Well, Without our pal Al, I give Bobby the nod, only because you get a double whammy of him and his buddy Rick in those damn commercials
I think Miller is Jewish as well - I've never known a Larry Miller who wasn't, which may make it even worse. And people wonder why satellite's kicking ass.
So much for the Werth mulligan.
FSN showed a slow motion of the replay a few times last night. Had choi fielded it cleanly he would have he would had to wait for Braz, who knew he was late and tried to haul his butt to first. Although I thought Choi deserved an error, I was impressed by the nifty recovery and snap pass to Braz. Braz was impressed too-- he forgot to catch the ball.
The article on dodgers.com really makes it seem like Tracy thought the loss was because of Choi.
http://tinyurl.com/cx66k
"The play in the ninth inning opened a number of doors [for Houston]," Tracy said. "I think we do get [Taveras if Choi fields it cleanly]. He was in the right position. I thought we had a play."
This quote comes as no suprise to anyone on this site. Choi is a great character for taking this sort of blame and misuse. Sadly, there will be dodger fans picking up the LAtimes and tuning in to Rick and Charlie, who will believe nonsense such as: 'the game was lost by a Choi bobble' and 'Tracy's move of Phillip to 4th was ingenious'.
Yesterday the majority of sportcenter (a show i never watch, but there was nothing better at 3 in the afternoon) was spent talking about Epstein and Franvona vs. Sox players and talking about whether or not Dusty Baker should be fired and should take some blame for the Cubs' losing.
Somehow i could never concieve that the national media, or even our LATimes would ever dare talk about blaming Tracy for some losses or questioning his decisions. It's funny how all the media has to say about him is that "he is one of the best managers in the game" and "look what he did last season". I don't think the media even cares to know what is going on. Maybe they just sympathize with Trace because Depo is the 'bad guy'. I dunno. I'm mad and I need to study.
Announcer says "Dodger picked the wrong year to remove the names from the jersey." Lyons is now doing some McCourt butt-kissing to justify a piss-poor decision which Frank implicitly acknowledged was a mistake.
42. Anc, very good point. A negative twofer with Rick and Bobby. (remember when we could be two bags of peanuts for $1).
For me it is Larry Miller of SitnSleep, simply for the illogical aspect of his campaign. He says that he will match any price or "your mattress is FREE!" So, let's think about this, Larry is selling a Serta Sleeper for $499. I bring him an advertised special from Sears that offers the same mattress for $399. I show it to Larry, and he says, "I'm sorry sir, we can't beat that price, so please take our matress. It's FREE!" Yeah right. Something tells me Larry will take $398.
vr, Xei
Boy are the pitchers working fast!
vr, Xei
Whoever is writing the Fox announcers' notes must be the same guy who writes the script for "Bobby."
Bob, yes. It would have been a home run in Cincinnati and most Little League parks.
Tell me again why they traded for Jay Payton?
Fox probably forced him to say that.
We still call San Pedro "San Pee-dro," and it's annoying when PC types insist on pronouncing it as in Guerrero. It's Peedro, man.
When I heard the Colorado play-by-play guy say it, he had a pretty good Spanish accent.
The street in Pasadena is pronounced "Lohs Robels" just like the city near San Luis Obispo is usually pronounced "Pass-o Robels"
Anyways, they used to sell t-shirts that said, in Gangsta Gothic type: "San Pedro: Where the Ghetto Meets the Sea." Love it.
"Hey, Rockfish, you've got to come down to a nice little place in San Pedro."
"Gabby, there's no such thing as a nice little place in San Pedro."
I know it's not true (although it may have been in the 1970s), but I've always loved that exchange.
The questions is this: Is race car guy really an athlete?
Professional poker, however, is no more a sport than the New York Times Crossword.
That's not always the case, but the LA Times did run a story about Father Joe and his cars and they had a tendency to turn up that way.
Surprisingly, his teams won a lot.
I know it's popular to dog on Weaver, but taking a look at his game log is actually pretty interesting.
Not counting today, since his May 29 start, this is his line:
53.1 IP, 39 K, 14 BB, 2.70 ERA
In that stretch, he never pitched less than six innings and gave up four earned runs only once. That's not too shabby, I'd say, particularly given the common perception that he's a basket case on the mound.
Bob, I watched a Hanshin Tigers game on TV three years ago, when their manager pinch hit for the cleanup hitter (Ivan Cruz) with a backup shortstop. There were two on and no outs. The pinch hitter bunted. Or tried to bunt. The result was a force at third. The next batter smacked a two run double and bailed out the manager.
I think they are bunting less in the past couple of years since Valentine and Hillman came into the league.
Maybe he does have a propensity for really laying an egg from time to time. We do have to evaluate him by his entire body of work, but it's interesting nonetheless to note that nearly half of his earned runs have come in four starts (out of eighteen for the season, again not including today). If we take those games out his ERA shrinks to 2.69 for the rest of his fourteen starts. Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't look at all the game. In fact, I'm saying that we really should look at all the games when evaluating Weaver as a pitcher.
Injury problems, I think he missed a whole year with elbow surgery or something. I believe he was a 1st round pick and has pitched well wherever he's been.
Additionally, in the minors, Brad Lidge was primarily a starter. It wasn't until he joined the Astros that he was converted into a full-time reliever. Starters can take longer to develop than relievers, because they have to work on multiple pitches. As a closer, Lidge can succeed with his above-average fastball and excellent slider.
as for weaver, if we do trade him, i would look at two teams: orioles and rangers.
orioles: haydenn penn+ Nick Markakis
rangers: john danks+ vicent sinisi
if we dont trade weaver, i would like to keep him. in fact, i wish we could trade lowe and give weaver lowe's money since i like weaver more than lowe.
i think weaver is a solid #3 starter. he, along with penny, have been our best pitchers over the last month and a half.
Given that, it's hard to imagine anyone the Dodger could realistically get that would be an improvement over Weaver.
If it makes anyone feel better, Mike's Baseball rants compiled the No-Star Team of the worst performing regular players in the first half. It consists of:
DODGERS:
[none]
FORMER DODGERS:
Lima
Nomo (bittersweet)
Jordan
ANGELS:
Cabrera
D-BACKS:
Snyder
PADRES:
Burroughs
Top of the 9th
Cleveland 8, New York 6
Sierra homers
Cleveland 8, New York 7
Williams singles
Womack runs for Williams
Jeter gets bunt single, Womack to second.
Cano hits into 4-6-3 DP, Womack to third
Sheffield walks
Rodriguez grounds into force play
GAME OVER!
If there has been anything positive that has come out of the Dodgers' recent struggles, it has been the emergence of Oscar Robles.
Viva Astro Boy!
tyson (toronto): Which GM in baseball do you believe has made the best decisions when it comes to drafting college/high school pitchers? Why?
Jim: Most GMs don't make draft decisions, especially after the first round. In terms of scouting directors, Logan White with the Dodgers and Roy Clark with the Braves immediately jump to mind.
Giacomo (windsor): What 3 teams in your opinion have the most talent down on the farm.
Jim: Dodgers, Braves, Twins.
kuo is warming up in the suns bullpen. i think hes going to come in today...
Here is the pre-game OPS for each of the regulars:
RF Justin Ruggiano: 1.881 OPS in 6 ABs
3B Andy LaRoche: 1.039 OPS in 74 ABs
LF Tydus Meadows: .955 OPS in 228 ABs
CF Jon Weber: .891 OPS in 270 ABs
C Russell Martin: .873 OPS in 257 ABs
SS Joel Guzman: .848 OPS in 296 ABs
2B Delwyn Young: .800 OPS in 315 ABs
1B James Loney: .755 OPS in 307 ABs
The Suns lead the league with a .793 team OPS.
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I can't believe the medical stuff would let him pitch if there was something seriously wrong with the arm. Maybe he's just a little paranoid or something, and he can eventually get his mechanics back.
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so a 91 pitch is actually around 94
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Tks for explaining that. Wasn't sure if that was the meaning of the announcer's comments.
Re: 219
Good point on the medical staff. Forgot about how they handled Gagne.
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it depends. as a reliever, not our top 10 but better prospect than yhency. as a starter, definately top 10.
3 outs and no Ks. very unusual for kuo.
Is it even still realistic to consider him as a starter with his medical history? I know Callis at BA recently raised the possibility in that online Q&A, but that arm really seems too fragile for starting.
Kuo gets out of it. No Ks, but he got out of it.
WWSH
you are right. i think he will stay a reliever. but as a starter, his value sky rockets.
i think with broxton, brazoban and kuo, we are good in the department of fireball relievers.
Yikes! It's embarrasing I haven't heard of this Alvarez kid. Those numbers are pretty out-there.
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Let's see how he does in his next few appearances. Hopefully he's just a little tentative and will get his confidence/arm strength back soon.
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We own you.
Sincerely,
The Oakland Athletics
Drewbles (Chicago, IL): All things equal who do you like? Andy Marte, Joel Guzman, Jeff Francouer or Ian Stewart?
Jim Callis: I'd be happy with all of those guys, but given my choice of just one I'd take Joel Guzman.
Final at Coors Field
Colorado 1
San Diego 0
First ever 1-0 game played at Coors.
Luis Gonzalez doubled home Aaron Miles for the only run.
Jason Jennings went 7 innings, Jay Witasick 1 and ALL-STAR Brian Fuentes survived 2 walks and an error to save it. He struck out Giles with the bases loaded to end it.
Brian Lawrence was the tough luck loser.
Man, SD, for a division-leader and probable playoff entrant, is a pretty pathetic team.
It's pretty disgraceful for both offenses to have that little production at Coors. If it Clemens and Santana, sure, that'd be understandable, but not Brian Lawrence and Jason Jennings.
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The Padres left 12 runners, grounded into 3 DPs and also had a batter called out for interference on a stolen base.
3-3 tonight, with his 4th homerun in 41 ABs.
hitting .537 so far. i dont see any other college hitters putting up his numbers this year.
could he be the high cieling polished OF bat we all longed for?
Here's what Baseball America had to say about him:
OF Sergio Pedroza is one of the best college hitters on the West Coast. At .341-12-46, he led the Titans in all three triple-crown categories. He has a nice, loose swing with quick hands and power to all fields. But at 5-foot-10, he's not tall enough to be an early-round pick and his other tools are below-average, except his arm strength.
Here's what MLB.com had to say about him:
COMMENT: Short, quick w/ compact stroke. Make consistent hard contact. Uses the whole field. Has decent amount of pop. Strong RF arm, could make transition to catcher. Extremely tough out.
Since he was a 4-year college pick, Pedroza is already old at 21, so he should be expected to dominate at this level, though obviously not to this extreme. If Pedroza continues hitting, it would be nice to see him promoted to Columbus or even Vero Beach in August to see how we would do against more age appropriate competition. It seems like his tools and build project better as a catcher, but there's no rush to move him with Martin and Navarro already in the system.
pedrozas only a 3 yr college player. everything else i agree with.
the only problem he had in college was against lefties (220BA). but other than that, there isnt a blemish on his offensive output so far. I kind of want him to go to columbus in at most, a week. hes ready now. pioneer pitching isnt challenging him.
damn, some days, i would trade the world for dunn, other days, i try to know better.
If he keeps up the same pace for another week, then send him straight to Vero Beach! I'm assuming he has to slow down, at least a little, because this is ridiculous. Where did you get his college stats from?
"A player with three or more years of service time can file for salary arbitration. There's also a provision that allows for a player with two-plus years to qualify, as long as he accumulated at least 86 days in the majors in the previous season and ranks among the top 17 percent in service time among players with between two and three years of service."
I didn't realize that the super-two exception only applied to players with at least 86 days of service time. Thus, once we hit the point where there are less than 86 days remaining in the season, any player the Dodgers expect to be on the major league roster starting next season could be called up without any financial ramifications. The exception would be players like Steve Schmoll and Derek Thompson who have already logged some service time this year.
Weaver 6IP (Under 6 2/3)
Dodgers 2 runs (Under 3)
Dodgers 9 hits (Over 8)
Astros HRs 1 (Under 2)
vr, Xei
"What I have seen of late is encouraging from the standpoint that he has spent a lot of time in the bullpen and is comfortable warming up and sitting down, which is something a starting pitcher doesn't have to deal with," Tracy said.
Erickson, a sinkerball specialist, has given up one run in 8 2/3 innings spanning six appearances since June 7.
Said Tracy: "Would I use him in a situation where we need to get a groundball? We are getting to that point."
Could someone who's more schooled in Revelations tell me if this is one of the signs of Armageddon?
Perhaps it's time to reevaluate the situation when Steve Henson and Tim Brown have already gotten of the boat and you find yourself sitting there by yourself with Bill Plaschke?
And one more entry in the "Year of the Bunt" notebook, with a particular nod to the Weisman/DePodesta principle (when assessing a bunt situation, one must consider the possibility that the bunt will fail).
http://www.thenats.blogspot.com/
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