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These Magic Moments
2005-09-18 09:59
by Jon Weisman

Today's Game

* * *

We are Gob.

Two ninth-inning comebacks for the Padres this week; the Dodgers lose two consecutive games in their opponents' final at-bat and blow a five-run lead to the Rockies. Five games left in the hat right there. Last year, the Dodgers had the magic - this year, it's San Diego, in a Tony Wonder kind of way.

Good to know, just in time for the Emmys ...

* * *

Odalis Perez and Wilson Alvarez are on track to be activated Tuesday, Paul DePodesta told Tony Jackson of the Daily News. Jonathan Broxton gets a recall from Jacksonville, while the rest of the Southern League titlists earn some well-deserved vacation time. Sure, I'd like a peek at some, but we'll see plenty of them in the future.

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2005-09-18 10:19:02
1.   Bob Timmermann
Random Dodger Game Callback

September 18, 2001

Playing just their second game since the season was halted for a week because of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the Dodgers lost again, falling to the San Diego Padres, 3-2, at Dodger Stadium before a crowd of 28.473. The Dodgers record fell to 78-67, four games behind first place Arizona, although the Giants were two games ahead of the Dodgers.

Dodgers manager Jim Tracy started Terry Adams against San Diego's Kevin Jarvis. And Adams got an early lead in the second. Left fielder Gary Sheffield led off with a walk. Catcher Paul Lo Duca flied out. First baseman Eric Karros then grounded a hit-and-run single to right to move Sheffield to third. Third baseman Adrian Beltre singled in Sheffield.

After giving up a leadoff double to Rickey Henderson, Adams set down 12 straight Padres until third baseman Phil Nevin walked in the fourth with two outs. Right fielder Bubba Trammell followed with a home run to put the Padres up 2-1.

Trammell's homer was the last hit Adams would give up in his eight innings of work. Adams struck out five and walked two in eight innings of work. However, Jarvis was just as good, giving up four hits, but only one run.

Matt Herges came into relieve in the ninth for the Dodgers. He gave up a one-out single to Ray Lankford, but got Nevin to strike out. But Herges walked Trammell and then gave up a single to first baseman Kevin Witt to give the Padres a 3-1 lead.

In the ninth, Trevor Hoffman came in. He gave up a leadoff single to right fielder Shawn Green. Green stole second and came around to score on a fly out by Sheffield and a ground out from Lo Duca. But Karros struck out to end the game.

The Dodgers didn't fare too well after the interruption to the season. They went 8-11 once play resumed and finished the season in third place with an 86-76 record, six games behind Arizona. The Giants finished in second, two games out, but were knocked out of playoff contention by the Dodgers on October 5 when the Dodgers pulled out an 11-10 win. The game featured Barry Bonds record-setting 71st home run (as well as his 72nd). But Green hit his 49th and center fielder Marquis Grissom hit his 21st. The game took 4:27, the longest 9-inning game in Major League history.

The Dodgers had two great corner outfielders in 2001 in Green, who hit 49 homers, drove in 125 runs and batted .297 and Sheffield, who hit 36 home runs with 100 RBI. Although Grissom hit 21 home runs, he batted just .221 with a .250 OBP. Lo Duca hit a career-high 25 home runs and batted .320. Beltre missed much of the season with complications from an appendectomy and batted .265 with 13 home runs.

The Dodgers pitching staff was not its strength. Chan Ho Park had his best season, going 15-11 with a 3.50 ERA with most of his success coming at home. He had a 2.36 ERA in Los Angeles and a 4.83 ERA on the road. Adams moved between the rotation and the bullpen and went 12-8 with a 4.33 ERA. Eric Gagne was expected to help out the starters, but he was 6-7 with a 4.75 ERA. Rookie Luke Prokopec raised hopes for a while, but the Australian finished with an 8-7 record and a 4.88 ERA. Kevin Brown, the expected ace of the team, was limited by injuries to just 20 games and went 10-4 with a 2.65 ERA.

Jeff Shaw led the bullpen with 43 saves, but had a relatively high ERA of 3.62. Herges pitched in 75 games and was 9-8 with a 3.44 ERA.

The season was topsy-turvy. The Dodgers lost on May 1 to the Cubs 20-1. And on July 21, the Dodgers won in Colorado by a 22-7 mark.

The pitching staff would be overhauled in the off-season. Park and Adams left as free agents. Shaw was not given a new contract and he retired. Prokopec would be traded to Toronto for a new shortstop, Cesar Izturis, and middle reliever Paul Quantrill.

And the return of an old hero and some new blood thanks to a disgruntled left fielder would help out in 2002. But Dodgers fans wondered if there was going to be a suitable replacement for Jeff Shaw.

Thanks to the Los Angeles Times, Baseball-reference, and Retrosheet.

2005-09-18 10:29:03
2.   Louis in SF

Posted early this morning after reading the Jackson article. As far as the call-up of Broxton is the reason that no other Suns are coming up do to service time issues? The rest part seems a bit weak. Another bat or perhaps a first baseman like Loney would seem to be very useful?

2005-09-18 10:30:38
3.   D4P
Glad to see that there's some Arrested Development fans around here.

Best. Show. Ever.

2005-09-18 10:35:28
4.   Bob Timmermann
That post reminded me to set the DV-R for Monday.

As for James Loney, I just don't see the big need for him. The Dodgers literally have more first basemen than they know what to do with.

2005-09-18 10:39:09
5.   Suffering Bruin
Was that the off-season where the Dodgers were given a choice of whether to give up Prokopec or Gagne for Izturis/Quantrill? Kind of glad they chose Luke.

Lord but I'm glad this is almost over. This season has been one long, slow slide. The highlight for me was the Adam Dunn Scouting Excursion (the night Freel ran freely). As Jon said, it's a bad season when Gagne's injury doesn't even make the final cut for lowlights.

Perhaps it's my oversensitivity but the media, especially the locals, seem to be greeting the Dodger struggles with the barely disguised glee normally seen in those people who show up at fires and cheer for the flames.

2005-09-18 10:40:30
6.   Bob Timmermann
It's Lima Time in Cleveland.

It's also 2-0 Cleveland in the third.

2005-09-18 10:42:12
7.   Bob Timmermann
Supposedly, the Blue Jays had a choice between Gagne and Prokopec, but there seems to be a disagreement on whether that was exactly the case.

So nobody has wistful remembrances of the 2001 season?

2005-09-18 10:42:19
8.   regfairfield
5 I recall that Evans wanted to get rid of Gagne, but Toronto wouldn't take him.
2005-09-18 10:48:07
9.   Eric L

Some folks at BTF have said that the Gagne/Prokopec thing was never a choice. The Jays either really wanted Prokopec and he was their prime target or the Dodgers didn't want to give up Gagne.

I can't seem to remember the circumstances and I could be totally wrong on this one.

2005-09-18 10:53:28
10.   Bob Timmermann
Some guy wrote about this earlier. I forget his name.

2005-09-18 10:54:48
11.   dzzrtRatt
4 The Dodgers literally have more first basemen than they know what to do with.

Artfully phrased.

Which is why I wouldn't mind seeing Loney now. The Dodgers remind me of a time in my life when I was caught between two unsatisfying relationships. I didn't know who I wanted to be with. Neither of the women involved were sure they wanted to be with me. Every date ended up in a long, searching conversation. It seemed like it would never end, and then I met someone else who was unlike either one of them, was incapable of having a long, searching conversation, and off I went into a decade of uncomplicated happiness.

I hope next season's roster is devoid of Phillips and Choi, and that Saenz is pencilled in as a part-time player and pinch hitter extraordinaire. For good measure, I also hope we have a new manager. And I hope all of this happens within a week of the World Series so this crowd can find something else to talk about for the off-season.

I actually recall enjoying much of the 2001 season, except for September. Wasn't that the year Sheffield, who'd been having a great year, disappeared in September?

2005-09-18 10:54:51
12.   Gen3Blue
Speaking of Lukes (Ithink)..but in any case did that Hochevar fellow go to class yet, and do you think the D's can continue kissing Boras' butt after the stuff he's pulled.
2005-09-18 10:58:42
13.   Bob Timmermann
In September 2001, Gary Sheffield had a 625 OPS.
But in the six October games, it was 1529.
2005-09-18 11:14:39
14.   dzzrtRatt
I guess 2001 makes the point that you can have an overwhelming offense, as the Dodgers did, and still finish 3rd.

Pitching pitching pitching pitching...

2005-09-18 11:18:43
15.   Jon Weisman
14 - 2003 made the opposite point.
2005-09-18 11:18:45
16.   Louis in SF
Dzratt makes a good point, considering how weare chosing andusing the current crop of 1st basemen. It weould strike me as a point of genuis to have DePodesta suggest to Mr. Tracy once we are offically out of the race-early next week to say, "Jim Loney is coming up lets make sure he gets say 5-7 starts, let Choi play the other part and have Olmado be the pinch hitte deluxe with a start. Considering his back I am sure he would appreciate the respite.
2005-09-18 11:21:46
17.   Bob Timmermann
Lima Time update:

8-0 Cleveland after 3. Lima's ERA is 6.95 now.

So how did the Dodgers lose to him?

2005-09-18 11:25:09
18.   D4P

I guess Lima is a "big-game" pitcher.

2005-09-18 11:27:48
19.   Bob Timmermann
Actually it was four innings for Lima. He gave up nine hits. Seven of them were for extra bases.
2005-09-18 11:34:58
20.   Bob Timmermann
Eric Milton got knocked out in the first inning by Pittsburgh. He gave up 6 runs in 2/3 of an inning.

His ERA is 6.84.

Surprisingly, he gave up no home runs.

2005-09-18 12:01:43
21.   dzzrtRatt
15 It wouldn't have taken too much more offense to turn that team into at least a division winner. Mediocrity might've been enough, given that pitching, but mediocrity was way out of their reach. As I recall reading you say at the time, the differential between pitching and offense on that team was historic.
2005-09-18 12:15:56
22.   sanchez101
14. "overwhelming offense"? Sure Green, Sheffield and Lo Duca were offensive stars at their positions. But what about Karros, Grudz., Cora, Beltre and Grissom were terrible. The Dodgers were 8th in the NL in runs scored, even accounting for park effects, the offense that year seems more average than overwhelming. The team EQA that year was .265, this year its .261.
2005-09-18 12:18:27
23.   Xeifrank
17. Bob didn't you know that Lima's value is in the clubhouse before and after games. :) How did the Oaks Christian game go, I missed your report. vr, Xei
2005-09-18 12:25:30
24.   Xeifrank
11. Why do you want Choi traded? He had a decent season, give him 600 at bats and he's got close to 30 HRs. He needs to cut down a bit on his strike outs, but a .793 OPS for $350k per year is nice to have on the team. As far as Tracy goes, his out clause expires one week after the season is over. So we might know fairly soon if he will be back next year. Of course he could get fired too, but I kind of doubt it (though I would like to see it happen).
vr, Xei
2005-09-18 12:30:31
25.   dzzrtRatt
22 I guess it's relative. Relative to what Dodger fans have become used to. I do recall Beltre picking up a little momentum in the second half. But Grissom was a pain in the ###. Refused to take a walk. Not part of my game, man.
2005-09-18 12:37:56
26.   D4P
Wow, Perez is in the lineup today (but no Choi.
2005-09-18 12:40:08
27.   coachjpark
Antonio Perez batting 3rd today? Who could have predicted that?
2005-09-18 12:41:36
28.   coachjpark
26 Of course no Choi in the lineup. It's a lefty on the mound. Tracy does not want to take away the success that Choi has had against righties by having him face lefties.
2005-09-18 12:43:03
29.   King of the Hobos
Aybar 3B
Robles SS
Perez 2B
Kent 1B
Cruz RF
Navarro C
Edwards LF
Werth CF
Dessens P


Winn CF
Vizquel SS
Feliz 1B
Bonds LF
Alou RF
Durham 2B
Alfonzo 3B
Matheny C
Lowry P

We need to hit the ball to the OF as much as possible...

2005-09-18 12:49:08
30.   King of the Hobos
The out clause is good for the week after the regular season correct? Something about that doesn't sit right in my stomach, I'd rather it be a week after the post season if not later. I can't quite tell what the problem is, just a hunch
2005-09-18 13:01:31
31.   trainwreck
I like this is intriguing. DePo said play Perez and Tracy said fine I am going to stick him in the fire since you think he is so great.
2005-09-18 13:02:42
32.   LAT
Does Tracy's out clause expire one week after the MLB season or one week after the Dodger season? Unfortunately they will not be the same.

While I do not agree with some of Tracey's moves I do not think he deserves to be fired. In my opinion he bears only a portion (a small portion) of responsibility for this season's failures and if you fire Tracey you better fire the Owner, GM and some of the players. That said, I would not mind seeing Tracey exercise his opt out. Not because I want him gone but because if we are going to employ a new philosophical approach (new to the Dodgers, at least), then lets give it its best chance. Let's do it with everyone on the same page. If the experiment is to succeed, or fail, lets get all the the parts moving in the same direction at the same speed. Not some in one direction, others not moving at all and some in the opposite direction. Only then will we know if the "master plan" can work. For me, that is the only reason JT should go.

One last thing, at least for today,I have reached the unsettling conclusion that we should have Bradley back. Do I want him? No. Do I like him? No. But the other options are prohibitively expensive or too unproductive.

2005-09-18 13:06:11
33.   D4P

And Choi doesn't start against righties because Tracy does not want to take away the success that Choi has had against righties by having him face other righties.

2005-09-18 13:16:20
34.   Terry A
33 Tracy's grand plan is to maximize the moxie-challenged Choi's success by only having him face right handers whose arm angles are the same as Brad Radke's.
2005-09-18 13:16:52
35.   Uncle Miltie
Anyone know what channel the game is on in the Bay Area?
2005-09-18 13:22:09
36.   trainwreck
If it's bay area prolly on fox 2, if not fox sports net.
2005-09-18 13:26:12
37.   King of the Hobos
Navarro bunted with Edwards on deck? At least the Giants had Bonds coming up after Feliz. If it was his choice, it wasn't a very good choice
2005-09-18 13:27:50
38.   King of the Hobos
Edwards pops up the 3-1's going to be a long game
2005-09-18 13:30:23
39.   King of the Hobos
The Dodgers have 3 flyballs, all to Winn. If they could hit them to left or right, there's at least a 50% they get a hit
2005-09-18 13:46:35
40.   King of the Hobos
Robles showing off his power. Our lefty in the line up gets the homer...

Lowry is around 60 pitches right now, looks like it could be a short game for him if he can't keep the counts a little lower

2005-09-18 13:58:02
41.   Jim Hitchcock
32 - LAT, the voice of reason!

Which just means, of course, that I agree with him.

2005-09-18 14:04:55
42.   Bob Timmermann
I'll be very glad not to have to see Randy Winn play for a few months.

Why did he decide to have a few good months once he joined the Giants? Why couldn't he play at his old miserable Seattle-Tampa Bay like quality?

2005-09-18 14:07:56
43.   Bob Timmermann
Jose Cruz Jr. is the Randy Winn of Los Angeles.
2005-09-18 14:08:05
44.   LAT
The "old Bonds" (read: young Bonds) would have caught that.
2005-09-18 14:09:20
45.   Bob Timmermann
Bonds would have caught Cruz's home run back in 1989 maybe.
2005-09-18 14:09:30
46.   LAT
Thanks Jim. I showed your post to my wife so she would know someone thinks I'm reasonable.:-)
2005-09-18 14:16:30
47.   Marty
Bonds will catch it again next year, once he Skinny's up :)
2005-09-18 14:17:03
48.   Bob Timmermann
Sign of the times:

Late season game between Dodgers and Giants has three guys making random comments about it.

Phillips in the ondeck circle. Everyone can get their Phillips-hatred out early.

2005-09-18 14:17:13
49.   Marty
And how about those gutty little Aggies last night against Stanford :)
2005-09-18 14:18:41
50.   LAT
50. I'll go first. Phillips sucks.
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2005-09-18 14:19:06
51.   Bob Timmermann
At least Cal was able to beat the Division 1-AA school from the area around the capital in the first week of the season.

On October 8, Cal travels to the Rose Bowl in the "Bob Timmermann Internal Conflict Bowl."

2005-09-18 14:19:25
52.   Bob Timmermann
Take this pitch Jason!
2005-09-18 14:20:34
53.   Bob Timmermann
Woo hoo! Jason! Jason! Jason! Jason! Jason!
2005-09-18 14:24:08
54.   LAT
Should have bunted.
(Just kidding.)
2005-09-18 14:24:30
55.   Jim Hitchcock
It should have been Choi. Tracy needs to be tarred and feathered prior to giving a speech to the Rotary Club.
2005-09-18 14:24:33
56.   oldbear
Aybar cant get it done.

Can Robles?

2005-09-18 14:24:51
57.   Bob Timmermann
I think the double steal is in order here.
2005-09-18 14:26:20
58.   oldbear
Robles another 3-1 hack....
2005-09-18 14:26:23
59.   Bob Timmermann
Almost could have been a double steal there. That would have been Phillips's best chance ever to get a stolen base.
2005-09-18 14:27:09
60.   Bob Timmermann

It was a hit and run. Robles had to swing.

2005-09-18 14:28:42
61.   oldbear
AP goes hacking.. I'm not sure how many true strikes Lowry threw that inning, but everything our hitters swung at were up high in the zone.
2005-09-18 14:30:06
62.   oldbear
60. Are you serious? Jason Phillips was one of the guys running...

13 games left of Buntermaker... Nothing like stealing another inning with a hit-n-run. Robles takes and its bases juiced.

2005-09-18 14:32:34
63.   Bob Timmermann
Why would I be lying when I said there was a hit and run on? They were.
2005-09-18 14:32:55
64.   Gen3Blue
Typical of trying to get Dodger games on the East Coast. DTV said they had it on Channel 739 but no--Its the Angels game, D's nowhere to be found. Out of the four games of this series I got one,thursday night. This will make about the third year in the last five I call and cancel Extra Innings, telling them they don't have important games. Of course I do it when the D's are out of it and always crawl back and order it in the spring.
2005-09-18 14:34:12
65.   werthgagne31
i agree
robles has shown he knows how to take a walk, he walks and kent comes up in the inning.
but tracy loves hit and running with robles, well it might just have cost us.
tracy has to be fired or opt out of his contract.
2005-09-18 14:34:59
66.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers are on Channel 13. I assume the Giants are on their broadcast channel too.
2005-09-18 14:37:09
67.   werthgagne31
i forgot to add in 65 that it really doesn't matter because we are not going to win our division, but its nice to keep track of tracy blunders.
2005-09-18 14:37:51
68.   Jim Hitchcock
Here we go again...
2005-09-18 14:38:53
69.   Marty
Apologies to Xei Frank, but "Out of the Past" is on Turner Classic Movies at 3 p.m. PDT. Quite possibly the best example of film noir. Starring Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas. Tivo it if you cannot watch it. I highy recommend.
2005-09-18 14:40:48
70.   Bob Timmermann
Washington leads the Padres 1-0.
Colorado leads the DBacks 2-0.
2005-09-18 14:40:51
71.   Jim Hitchcock
64 - It'll probably be worse next year. Just prior to the start of the season, Ch. 13 dropped 25 of their broadcasts, which were then picked up by FSW. Next year, CH. 9 will presumably ramp it back up to 50.
2005-09-18 14:41:12
72.   Uncle Miltie
Cruz was showing bunt
2005-09-18 14:41:45
73.   Uncle Miltie
Maybe he should have bunted...
2005-09-18 14:43:22
74.   Marty
We go to channel 9 next year for the non FSW games?
2005-09-18 14:44:50
75.   LAT
Tracey or no Tracey, this team, which is fair at best can't buy a break. If Cruz bunts we come up with one or maybe two runs after Dioner's 2B. Timing is everything in this life.
2005-09-18 14:45:29
76.   Jim Hitchcock
74 - Yep.
2005-09-18 14:46:00
77.   LAT
Make that "Tracy." Once dated a girl who spelled it "Tracey."
2005-09-18 14:46:04
78.   Bob Timmermann
Yep, the Angels don't have a on-air outlet for next year. They might go on a UHF station. Or Moreno might try to form his own little network.

Somehow, I think Moreno will make some money off the deal.

Despite the Angels' much better record in recent years, Dodgers games still get better ratings.

2005-09-18 14:46:57
79.   oldbear
3-3.. Too bad he GIDP. THis might have been a bigger inning.

Navarro's got a bright future on the Dodgers.

2005-09-18 14:47:57
80.   oldbear
Wow Choi must be really buried on the bench. Usually this is his spot. Lets go Myrow.
2005-09-18 14:48:18
81.   LAT
Again, can't buy a break
2005-09-18 14:48:19
82.   Bob Timmermann
If you had been paying attention to your RDGCs, you would have known that the 1899 Dodgers got hit by pitches a lot.

But the L.A. record is 72, not 62. The Dodgers got hit 72 times in 2003 thanks to the presence of Mike Kinkade.

2005-09-18 14:49:06
83.   Bob Timmermann

Werth almost got another break on that pitch from Kinney.

2005-09-18 14:49:15
84.   D4P
I think Tracy likes to wait until the bases are empty to let Choi hit.
2005-09-18 14:49:25
85.   Uncle Miltie
Edwards is SLOW. He got a terrible jump. Somebody needs to teach him how to run the bases.
2005-09-18 14:49:56
86.   LAT
We should have had 3-4 runs that inning. Just another day in Dodgerville.
2005-09-18 14:50:18
87.   oldbear
Edwards must be pretty slow to get thrown out by Moises Alou. Back to the Rams game.
2005-09-18 14:50:24
88.   Gen3Blue
Dammit--I hate that ball in play; outs recorded
2005-09-18 14:50:54
89.   Bob Timmermann
Kent and Choi lead the Dodgers with 8 HBP. Repko has 7.

Drew got to 5.....

2005-09-18 14:52:03
90.   oldbear
I just noticed the Giants are playing their "A" team today. I'm surprised we're tied 3-3.
2005-09-18 14:52:17
91.   Bob Timmermann
Alou actually made a good throw. And it was a lot better than the one he made on the play on Navarro. Alou actually, you know, threw it toward the catcher the second time.
2005-09-18 14:52:57
92.   Uncle Miltie
89- too bad we don't have Mike Kinkade. Edwards kind of reminds me of Kinkade.
2005-09-18 14:53:20
93.   Bob Timmermann
This might demonstrate that the Giants "A" team wouldn't have been all that good to begin with.
2005-09-18 14:54:06
94.   Bob Timmermann
Edwards has just one HBP.

Matheny gives Kinney a chance to pick up the win!

2005-09-18 14:54:11
95.   Uncle Miltie
Osoria is supposed to get ground balls...
2005-09-18 14:54:39
96.   Jim Hitchcock
Paging Kevin Elster. Kevin Elster, to the white courtesy phone.
2005-09-18 14:56:25
97.   Jim Hitchcock
Wow, an all too rare giant flying jellyfish just flew in front of the camera!
2005-09-18 14:57:11
98.   oldbear
Ortmeier yesterday. Matheny today.


2005-09-18 14:59:12
99.   Bob Timmermann
Well, Mike Mathey is a proven veteran presence. And he was able to guide the Giants pitching staff to their excellent performance this year.
2005-09-18 15:00:49
100.   Gen3Blue
90 As Clouseau would say "Not anymore"
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2005-09-18 15:02:19
101.   Bob Timmermann
Bruce Bochy, trailing in a 1-0 game, sent Robert Fick, one of his better bench players up to pinch hit for Pedro Astacio with 2 on and none out.

He had Fick sacrifice.

2005-09-18 15:04:44
102.   Jim Hitchcock
If Kent homers here, I will consider my season complete.
2005-09-18 15:05:43
103.   Bob Timmermann
Somehow Roberts grounded into a 3-5 DP to end the inning.
2005-09-18 15:06:18
104.   Bob Timmermann
Actually it was a 3-6 DP with the second out being made at third. Miguel Olivo ran into the out.
2005-09-18 15:06:24
105.   Jim Hitchcock
Really wish I hadn't brought it up...
2005-09-18 15:11:02
106.   Bob Timmermann
Still 2-0 Colorado over Arizona after 4 1/2.

In 5 innings, Russ Ortiz has thrown 100 pitches. He has given up 6 hits, walked 4 and hit a batter.

Colorado has stranded 8 runners so far.

This game is classic Russ Ortiz.

Surprisingly, the DBacks haven't done much against Jeff Francis, who was serving up BP to the Dodgers earlier in the week.

2005-09-18 15:14:37
107.   Bob Timmermann
CYCLE ALERT! CYCLE ALERT! Cruz just needs the triple now.

Of course it's not likely his spot will come up again.

2005-09-18 15:19:50
108.   Bob Timmermann
If Cruz bats in the 9th and hits a triple, that means one of two things:

1) the Dodgers have scored a ton of runs and are ahead
2) the Giants scored about six or seven runs in the bottom of the eighth.

2005-09-18 15:24:12
109.   Bob Timmermann
Welcome to the majors Kuo.
2005-09-18 15:24:29
110.   bokonon42
I'll be as glad as anyone to watch Kuo strikeout Barry, but shouldn't he really be hitting him in the face? No vengeance for Werth?
2005-09-18 15:25:28
111.   oldbear
Welcome to the bigs Kuo.
2005-09-18 15:25:32
112.   D4P
Kuo's ERA is now a balmy 81.00
2005-09-18 15:25:55
113.   Bob Timmermann
Personally, I don't see why Bonds doesn't get hit more often or get more brushbacks.

Somewhere the ghost of Don Drysdale wails in anger.

2005-09-18 15:25:59
114.   Marty
Well, at least Kuo's not exactly in exclusive company.
2005-09-18 15:27:02
115.   Marty
He could take a 100 mph pitch off that armour and not feel it.
2005-09-18 15:27:39
116.   Bob Timmermann
There are some places where Bonds doesn't have armor though.
2005-09-18 15:30:25
117.   Bob Timmermann
Bases loaded for the Padres in the 8th down 1-0 with 1 out and Greene batting.
2005-09-18 15:30:49
118.   Bob Timmermann
And a sac fly ties it up 1-1.
2005-09-18 15:30:55
119.   bokonon42
115- Right; that's why you aim for the head. Just the body armor alone is a good reason for him to get hit. But there was a retaliatory reason, too. Has the Dodgers' bench cleared even once this year? They're out of the race, might as well have a riot.
2005-09-18 15:31:49
120.   Linkmeister
"Personally, I don't see why Bonds doesn't get hit more often or get more brushbacks."

Cynic that I am, pitchers who did that would be warned repeatedly and then ejected. Barry's BOX OFFICE, man!

2005-09-18 15:32:06
121.   Bob Timmermann
Armando Benitez for one would not be hesitant to throw a pitch at anyone's head.
2005-09-18 15:34:46
122.   Bob Timmermann
Of course, you probably wouldn't want a rookie like Kuo to be your designated head-hunter. That's the job for someone with some experience.
2005-09-18 15:34:48
123.   bokonon42
120- I'm happy to see Kuo pitch 1/3 of an inning, every other weekend for the rest of this year, but I'd be willing to give that up to see Barry get hit.
2005-09-18 15:35:25
124.   Jim Hitchcock
119 - I think Bob was alluding to the fact that Bonds doesn't wear a cup...
2005-09-18 15:35:30
125.   Dodgersrock24
First losing season for the Dodgers in a long time. Unbelievable.
2005-09-18 15:36:39
126.   oldbear
Dodgers lose.

Go Padres! Beat the Nationals.

2005-09-18 15:38:02
127.   Bob Timmermann
Coming into this year, Bonds had been hit 93 times. The most in any one season was 10.

In his 8th season in the majors, Alex Cora has been hit 57 times!

2005-09-18 15:40:18
128.   Bob Timmermann
It was just 1999 when the Dodgers had a losing record.
2005-09-18 15:44:50
129.   bokonon42
124- That's a little too dirty, even for me. The head is fair game.
2005-09-18 15:54:11
130.   Bob Timmermann
Padres win 2-1 on a Washington error on a bunt.
2005-09-18 15:54:16
131.   King of the Hobos
Padres just won on a bunt. Hit Roberts on the trhow so Olivo scored from 2nd. At least it looks like they can take the division
2005-09-18 15:59:33
132.   Bob Timmermann
2-1 Rockies in the 7th. Bases loaded for AZ with 2 outs.
2005-09-18 16:01:53
133.   King of the Hobos
I go to to look at the notes. The headline is "Perez may get some work." Naturally I think, Perez started today, maybe Tracy will finally play him now that we're out of it...I forgot we had another Perez

I have no idea what this next thing means for Kuo. But the Bonds homer likely means he's done for the season

Tracy said he's waiting for the right situation to get Kuo back on the mound.

"Will we get to that in the last two weeks of the season? We'll get to it," Tracy said.

Honeycott must have left or some reason (he was our extra Sept coach). Now we get Jerry Royster. If Venafro gets called up, he and Tracy will make sure Venafro plays every game

2005-09-18 16:03:29
134.   dzzrtRatt
131 Yuk. The entire National League is floundering in a miasma of crummy play this season.

Prediction: Angels will beat the Giants again in the 2005 World Series, only this time, the Halos will score the winning run and win the 7th game when, on an 0-2 count in the bottom of the ninth, Armando Benitez hits Daren Erstad with a pitch with the bases loaded.

2005-09-18 16:07:26
135.   fanerman
133 - Why on earth did Tracy put in Kuo against bonds, anyway? Is any left-handed relief pitcher our new designated LOOGY? We're not playing to win the division and at this point, even Tracy should realize that. There's a difference between giving young guys a chance to play and throwing them into a pack of wolves, and Tracy needs to start doing the former.

Of course, this makes sense, so Tracy probably wouldn't buy it.

2005-09-18 16:25:33
136.   Mark
Bonds needs a pitch thrown into his head, and detaching his retina, Kirby Puckett-style.
2005-09-18 16:27:59
137.   dzzrtRatt
136 A little harsh. How about if we just hope he strikes out?
2005-09-18 16:29:10
138.   Bob Timmermann
6-1 Rockies in the 8th. The Dodgers should be able to keep their hold on third place!

The Dodgers and DBacks will finally catch up in the number of games played a week from tomorrow when the Dodgers play and the DBacks are off.

The Padres magic number is 9.

The Giants magic number for clinching second place is 12.

2005-09-18 16:31:00
139.   Bob Timmermann
Actually Puckett had a preexisting glaucoma that ended his career. The beanball just made everybody look at things harder.

For the record, I don't advocate any pitcher deliberately trying to injure another player. But pitchers don't try to intimidate Bonds in any manner it seems.

2005-09-18 16:32:55
140.   King of the Hobos
Rockies doing their best to give up a 6-1 lead, bases loaded, 1 out for Tony Clark
2005-09-18 16:33:28
141.   Bob Timmermann
Bases loaded for Arizona with 1 out and Tony Clark at the plate against Mike DeJean.
2005-09-18 16:35:27
142.   dzzrtRatt
139 Bob, do you know why MLB lets him wear that upper-arm guard? Even more than possible chemical enhancement, that has always struck me as an unfair advantage for Barry, because pitchers can't jam him inside and get him off the plate. Thanks to that padding, he gets the outside edge of the plate, unlike every other hitter. I know at one point he had an injury under there, but how has he been able to argue that he should keep that equipment on perpetually?
2005-09-18 16:36:07
143.   dzzrtRatt
I guess I mean lower arm.
2005-09-18 16:38:01
144.   Bob Timmermann
You have to have a doctor's note to wear one of those guards. It used to be anyone could wear one, but they have to be approved.

Craig Biggio wears one also. Is it coincidental that he has been hit more than anyone else not named Hughie Jennings?

2005-09-18 16:42:52
145.   dzzrtRatt
A doctor's note is all it takes? Not too high of a hurdle. For popular drugs like Viagra you can get a 'doctor' to approve your prescription via an online quiz.
2005-09-18 16:42:55
146.   King of the Hobos
The Rockies announcer, on using your closer with a 5 run lead:

"I had a long conversation with some of the best managers, Jim Tracy, Dusty Baker. They said why not do it, why risk losing" I butchered the last part (I don't have the best memory for quotes), but that's the general idea. Jim must be quite happy to have his bullpen tactics compared to Dusty Baker

2005-09-18 16:48:13
147.   Bob Timmermann
The DBacks have used 8 pitchers today.
2005-09-18 16:52:19
148.   Bob Timmermann
The Rockies announcers said 8 pitchers, but it's been only 6.


2005-09-18 16:58:35
149.   Bob Timmermann
6 of our 13 remaining games left with Arizona. Those are going to be painful games to watch. They're all going to take 4 hours to play and feature a dozen pitchers.
2005-09-18 17:03:15
150.   King of the Hobos
149 It's too bad we don't have a showoff of the two sinkerball heavyweights. That game could be half the length of the others, unless they go to extra innings
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2005-09-18 17:17:27
151.   Bob Timmermann
So will Bonds be able to homer at RFK? Will the House drop a subpoena for him instead?

The earliest day the Padres could clinch would be Friday at Arizona.

2005-09-18 23:31:22
152.   Ryan Jerz
Shame about Kuo having been designated as the latest LOOGY. He tossed my kid a ball during BP today, which was later signed by Brad Penny as he jawed with some horrific fans. I was pretty excited to see him in there, and when he threw that first one by Bonds I proudly predicted a quick exit by Barry. Oh well.

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