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September 22 Open Chat
2005-09-22 15:20
by Jon Weisman

Tonight's Game

As if it weren't open before ...

Comments (365)
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2005-09-22 15:35:38
1.   Suffering Bruin
Teacher to Locke High School Student wearing a baseball cap: "Hey! A Dodger fan! You been to any games?"

The student looks at the teacher quizzically: "Man, I can tell you ain't from around here."

2005-09-22 15:51:17
2.   Icaros
1 Do any of them wear football helmets to school?
2005-09-22 15:51:18
3.   Jon Weisman
LOL, Bruin. I hope you can find the time and energy to keep a journal of your first year. It'd be a great read, I'm sure.
2005-09-22 15:52:58
4.   Bob Timmermann
I'm moving the Giants-Nats updates here.

It's 2-0 Nats in the 7th.

2005-09-22 15:54:30
5.   Steve
1 - I smell a book deal!

This Nats game is going great. Anything that makes it look like they want to re-sign Brett Tomko is excellent. If they lose, that's just gravy.

2005-09-22 15:59:00
6.   Bob Timmermann
Tomko is out and Accordion is in.

Whoops, Accordion out, and Jack Taschner in.

Jack Taschner's name requires you to write both parts because it sounds cool.

2005-09-22 16:08:28
7.   Icaros
As a Nationals ball girl threw a foul ball into the stands, SF announcer Mike Krukow said, "Ball Babes here at RFK. They give it up."
2005-09-22 16:16:07
8.   Marty
7 I can't believe the SF announcers could be that funny.
2005-09-22 16:17:03
9.   Bob Timmermann
So who will Bonds bat for in the 9th? I assume he will only bat if someone gets on base.
2005-09-22 16:20:47
10.   Bob Timmermann
Padres magic number:


2005-09-22 17:00:37
11.   Bob Timmermann
Not a talkative crowd tonight, eh?

Random Dodger Game Callback

September 22, 1998

Rookie third baseman Adrian Beltre hit a three-run home run in the fourth inning to provide all the offense for the Dodgers as they edged the Padres at Dodger Stadium before a crowd of 29,255. But 1998 was the Padres year, as they had already clinched the NL West. The Dodgers were in third place with an 80-77 record, 15 ½ games out of first.

After the Padres scored a run in the second, the Dodgers had their lone rally in the fourth. Second baseman Mark Grudzielanek and catcher Charles Johnson reached with two outs. Then Beltre belted the first pitch from Padre starter Joey Hamilton over the center field fence for his sixth homer of the season.

Park would give up another run in the eighth and would be relieved by Jeff Shaw. Shaw gave up two hits in the ninth, but held on for his 45th save.

Few seasons in Dodgers history would be as tumultuous as 1998. The team's sale from the O'Malley family to News Corporation (better known as Fox) was complete. And there were changes to be made.

The new ownership started off by getting into a contract dispute with the team's best player, catcher Mike Piazza. And, apparently without consulting general manager Fred Claire, Piazza, along with third baseman Todd Zeile, were traded to the Florida Marlins for Gary Sheffield, Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, Charles Johnson, and Manuel Barrios. Piazza in just 37 games with the Dodgers that season did manage to hit three grand slams.

After a slow start (36-38), manager Bill Russell was fired on June 21. He was the first Dodgers manager to leave involuntarily in midseason since 1898. (Charlie Dressen was fired after the 1953 season when the Dodgers went 105-49.) Glenn Hoffman succeeded Russell and went 47-41 as the Dodgers finished 83-79, 21 games behind the Padres and in third place. Claire was fired along with Russell.

Players came and went all year. Hideo Nomo, refused to accept a demotion to the bullpen and asked to be traded, and he went to the Mets with Brad Clontz for Greg McMichael and Dave Mlicki. Interim GM Tommy Lasorda, dissatisfied with the Dodgers bullpen, acquired Shaw from the Reds in exchange for Paul Konerko and Dennys Reyes.

After five weeks in Los Angeles, the Dodgers traded McMichael back to the Mets in exchange for Brian Bohanon. And on July 31, the Dodgers traded Peter Bergeron, Wilton Guerrero, Ted Lilly and Jonathan Tucker to Montreal for Carlos Perez, Grudzielanek and Hiram Bocachcica.

Overall the Dodgers used 29 position players and 25 pitchers. 11 different men played left field for the Dodgers in 1998: Todd Hollandsworth, Roger Cedeno, Matt Luke, Trenidad Hubbard, Eisenreich, Bonilla, Thomas Howard, Konerko, Wilton Guerrero, Mike Devereaux, and Damon Hollins.

Park led the pitching staff with a 15-9 record with a 3.71 ERA. Raul Mondesi, who shifted to center field when Sheffield arrived, hit 30 home runs to lead the team. Mondesi also had 30 walks to go along with 112 strikeouts. Sheffield, in 98 games with the Dodgers, walked 69 times, while striking out only 30 times.

In all, it was a long, long, long year. And the fans were left to wonder? Who were these guys? And was Walter O'Malley turning over in his grave?

Thanks to the Los Angeles Times and Retrosheet.

2005-09-22 17:11:43
12.   Marty
1998 was a very weird year for me. My job was disintegrating as fast as the Dodgers season and I was flying around the country interviewing for a new one. I didn't really want to leave L.A., but it looked like I would not have a choice. Then at the last minute I got an offer here that beat all the others I had already gotten. Woohoo! I get to stay at home. But that very same day, my brother went into the hospital. Nine days later he was dead. I actually had to take time off my first week on the new job for the funeral.

Very surreal time. But I'm glad I'm still in L.A.

2005-09-22 17:13:39
13.   Uncle Miltie
Steve Henson is starting to get lazy. He has written a Dodger Report in a couple of days. He's decided to write shorter game recaps and put some Dodger notes at the bottom of his articles. I guess he's turning into a typical LA Times writer (their current cast). Tony Jackson continues to do a great job covering the Dodgers at the Daily News.
2005-09-22 17:14:45
14.   Uncle Miltie
2005-09-22 17:15:25
15.   Marty
I wouldn't say that Henson is lazy. They are just assigning a smaller news hole to the Dodgers since the season is shot. Happens at the end of the season for any team out of the race.
2005-09-22 17:17:06
16.   Bob Timmermann
Henson isn't getting lazy as much as his editors have just given him less space. That's typical when a team falls out of a race. With college football season going on, hockey season getting ready to start and then the onslaught of the NBA, they just want to clear out space.

When I was researching some RDGCs from the 1910s and 1920s, the NY Times wouldn't bother covering the Brooklyn Dodgers toward the end of the year if they were out of the race. And that was even for home games.

2005-09-22 17:18:01
17.   Bob Timmermann
I disagree with Marty. :-)
2005-09-22 17:20:59
18.   Dave
13 Tony Jackson continues to do a great job covering the Dodgers at the Daily News.

Do you really think so? I got so tired of him completely misreporting incidents from games and other facts that I completely ignore him. Is it just me?

2005-09-22 17:23:08
19.   Steve
18 -- no.
2005-09-22 17:23:15
20.   OaklandAs
Predictable lineup against the lefthander Estes, except that Werth is on the bench. Shawn Green starts in CF for the D-Backs.

3B Aybar
SS Robles
2B Kent
1B Saenz
RF Cruz, Jr.
LF Edwards
C Phillips
CF Repko
P Weaver

2B Counsell
RF Tracy
LF Gonzalez
1B Clark
CF Green
3B Cintron
SS Clayton
C Snyder
P Estes

2005-09-22 17:28:12
21.   Kayaker7
Oh for goodness sake. The season is over. Just let Choi start against a lefty.
2005-09-22 17:31:24
22.   jtshoe
Anyone in Arizona want to go to the game tonight? I've got 2 extra tix in Sec 130. I'll check back before I leave at about 5:45.
2005-09-22 17:31:42
23.   Bob Timmermann

Didn't you know that Hee-Seop Choi not starting against lefties was one of the topics at the 6-party North Korean nuclear talks? The North Koreans have insisted on that language, but it seems to be running into opposition from China.

I hear there are massive rallies in Tianenman Square demanding that Choi start against lefties. There is even a picture of a brave student standing in front of a large tank that has Jim Tracy's picture painted on it.

2005-09-22 17:36:59
24.   Kayaker7
23 LOL. I have not read the full transcript of the agreement.
2005-09-22 17:37:04
25.   sanchez101
I wonder if South Korean baseball fans are as annoyed as we are over Choi's playing time?
2005-09-22 17:59:04
26.   OaklandAs
21 Or let's see Perez start at SS for a few games instead of Robles.
2005-09-22 18:02:44
27.   Steve
21, 26 -- I think it's a pension-vesting thing.
2005-09-22 18:07:45
28.   D4P
I agree. Tracy is managing in a way that suggests he's more concerned with the win-loss record (and what it says about him to other clubs) than with the 2006 Dodger team, which he evidently doesn't expect to be a part of.
2005-09-22 18:13:39
29.   Steve
28 -- But the team he doesn't play is better than the team he plays.

It's just weird. The whole year has been weird.

2005-09-22 18:16:52
30.   D4P
I agree, but Tracy evidently doesn't know that. In Tracy's mind,

Saenz >>> Phillips >>> Myrow >>> Choi
Izturis >>> Robles >>> Perez

2005-09-22 18:20:02
31.   Telemachos
Cleveland up 5-1 in the fourth.

White Sox about to melt down: 1 and 2, no outs for the Twins in the sixth.

2005-09-22 18:26:50
32.   Bob Timmermann


White Sox 1, Twins 0 in the 6th.

2005-09-22 18:31:04
33.   Bob Timmermann
And KC has tied Cleveland on a Mark Teahen grand slam. 5-5 in the 5th.
2005-09-22 18:32:59
34.   scanderbeg
mike edwards has to be the winner of the least interesting dodger of the year award. he follows the previous prestigious recipients scott stewart, chad hermansen, jim tracy, and chad kreuter.
2005-09-22 18:35:16
35.   Telemachos
32,33: Evidently I spoke too quickly. :)

Though Jacque Jones has just tied the Twins-Sox game with a homer of his own.

2005-09-22 18:40:15
36.   Bob Timmermann
Harrelson's call of Jones's homer:

long fly ball....

this game is tied....

2005-09-22 18:42:19
37.   Telemachos
36- As opposed to 32? :) Dear God Almighty...
2005-09-22 18:44:16
38.   Eric L
36 Didn't some of the Sox fans say that Hawk was a great announcer in a thread over at BTF today?

I've watched the guy quite a bit this year and I would have to say that nothing about him suggests greatness.

2005-09-22 18:47:03
39.   Bob Timmermann
Hmm. I guess I should vote no on Prop 76.
2005-09-22 18:47:58
40.   King of the Hobos
Aybar has 5 straight hits now

Because I don't take time to learn their names, is Harrelson the "he gone" guy? Great is about the last thing that I would call him

Why did we go to commercial break during Kent's homer?

2005-09-22 18:48:20
41.   Bob Timmermann
I wasn't making a political comment there, but my cable system inserted a "No on 76" ad right as Kent homered.
2005-09-22 18:50:20
42.   Bob Timmermann

Harrelson is indeed the "he gone" guy. He has a lot of catchphrases.

He's an acquired taste. Not many people have acquired it, but there must be people in Chicago who love him because he's been at that job forever.

He was even GM of the White Sox for a year. Think of having an even more annoying and dumber Tommy Lasorda in charge.

2005-09-22 18:52:25
43.   D4P
Regarding Aybar's double (I'm not watching the game): how does one "double on a ground ball to third base"?
2005-09-22 18:54:20
44.   natepurcell
it was a gb down the line and it hit the umpire because it had such blazing speed on it that the umpire could not react quickly enough.

aybar= competively skilled.

2005-09-22 18:54:30
45.   CanuckDodger
If Aybar hasn't won the 3B job for next year, something is more deeply wrong with this organization that anybody suspects.
2005-09-22 18:54:32
46.   Eric L
Is FSN West 2 having some audio problems tonight? I'm hearing the D-backs PA guy instead of the commercials.
2005-09-22 18:55:28
47.   natepurcell
on a side note, i went to the record store today and i picked up the new pelican cd and i have to say its absolutely amazing.
2005-09-22 18:56:14
48.   CanuckDodger
If Aybar hasn't won the 3B job for next year, something is more deeply wrong with this organization than anybody suspects.
2005-09-22 18:56:37
49.   King of the Hobos
43 Normal double down the line that Cintron happened to deflect off his glove. The deflection prevented it from going all the way down the line, so Cintron had to field it
2005-09-22 19:00:35
50.   Im So Blue
46 I'm getting the same thing here (Time Warner Cable South Bay/Torrance) and no Vinny during the game. But we do get the closed captioning of Vinny's commentary (which I can get on the radio).
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2005-09-22 19:02:53
51.   Bob Timmermann
I have Time-Warner in South Pasadena, but aside from the odd commercial break, everything is fine.
2005-09-22 19:03:47
52.   Eric L

It's probably an FSN West 2 thing then. I have Dish Network.

2005-09-22 19:05:39
53.   Bob Timmermann
Leadoff man (Ford) reaches for the Twins in the 9th.

I assume Gardenhire is going to go smallball now.

2005-09-22 19:05:55
54.   Eric L
51 I spoke to soon I guess. Does anyone know if there are different feeds for the same channel?
2005-09-22 19:06:10
55.   kngoworld
Is the sound messed up for anyone else on the game? All I can hear is the stadium noise, no announcers. Stadium noise is during commercials also.
2005-09-22 19:06:47
56.   Bob Timmermann
You can try the radio.
2005-09-22 19:06:48
57.   trainwreck
I have grown so accustomed to hearing commentary during the game that it is hard for me to watch. It is annoying to hear no sound other than the crack of the bat and the Dbacks PA guy.
2005-09-22 19:07:26
58.   King of the Hobos
Time Warner in Santa Clarita had the strange commercial break, but we have Vinny as well
2005-09-22 19:07:51
59.   jasonungar05
Seriously the whole Hee Sop thing makes me question my understanding of Baseball, or Politics.

I am just not sure which it is.

2005-09-22 19:07:56
60.   kngoworld
I have dish network
2005-09-22 19:09:46
61.   Bob Timmermann
Ford steals second and Barlett walks, so the Twins have two on, none out with Mauer coming up against Politte
2005-09-22 19:09:57
62.   Eric L
56 I think I worded my question a little bit wrong. Why would some people have sound and others not.

As for the radio, I'll pass. KFWB doesn't like to come in out here in the IE very well at night. The Banning station is even worse.

2005-09-22 19:10:13
63.   Bob Timmermann
KC ahead of Cleveland 6-5.
2005-09-22 19:10:22
64.   Marty
Charter cable audio messed up to. You can hear the organ music though.
2005-09-22 19:10:59
65.   Bob Timmermann
Mauer flies out. Ford advances to third. Lecroy up.
2005-09-22 19:11:37
66.   HomeDePo
good news today, DePo hinting he will not resign Phillips. That might force Jim Tracy to resign without his star 1st baseman.
2005-09-22 19:13:04
67.   HomeDePo
every day jason phillips starts Jim Tracy should donate 5% of his yearly salary to Hurricain Katrina relief
2005-09-22 19:13:22
68.   Bob Timmermann
Lecroy flies out to center, but Ford can't tag up. Two outs. Jones up.
2005-09-22 19:15:31
69.   Bob Timmermann
Politte out, Cotts in. 2 outs in the 9th. 1-1 Twins and Chisox.
2005-09-22 19:16:33
70.   Bob Timmermann
Coco Crisp has hit a 2-run homer to put Cleveland up 7-6 in KC.
2005-09-22 19:17:56
71.   Im So Blue
Vinny is back on Time Warner Torrance.
2005-09-22 19:18:42
72.   Bob Timmermann
Jones grounds out to short. Going to the bottom of the 9th in Chicago tied 1-1.

Yankees held on against Baltimore 7-6. They lead 7-1 after 7.

2005-09-22 19:21:13
73.   Bob Timmermann
Rincon replaces Santana in the 9th.

Texas up on the Halos, 1-0.

2005-09-22 19:23:41
74.   overkill94
Anybody else see Steve Phillips' article about the 2005 FA signings today? Seemed to be a decent article until he threw Derek Lowe into the honorable mention of worst signings. I know there's some dissension about how good of a signing he was, but to call it one of the worst seems like another potshot. Maybe Steve has a thing for Carolyn Hughes...

Oh yeah, and Eckstein was listed ahead of Kent, go figure.

2005-09-22 19:23:49
75.   natepurcell
estes is one of those upside down players: throws left, bats right.

is that the right term?

im left handed, but i grew up hitting right handed and in HS i had to teach myself how to hit left handed. now i can switch hit very effectively. although i have more power right handed but better contact skills left handed.

2005-09-22 19:25:21
76.   natepurcell
what pitchers did phillips say were good signings?
2005-09-22 19:26:31
77.   Bob Timmermann
White Sox have two on and one out in the 9th for Aaron Rowand.
2005-09-22 19:27:53
78.   natepurcell
i refuse to believe tony clark has hit 30 homeruns this season.
2005-09-22 19:28:59
79.   Bob Timmermann
Pedro Martinez got Steve Phillips' Seal of Approval. So did the trade for Mark Mulder.
2005-09-22 19:30:15
80.   overkill94
76 Pedro was #1, Mulder #9 (go figure), Todd Jones #10, Hudson, Haren, Lieber, and Hermanson honorable mention.

For worst, NY Yankees starting pitchers #3, Milton #4, Percival #5, Kolb #7, Russ Ortiz, Benitez, Leiter, and Lowe honorable mention.

2005-09-22 19:30:35
81.   natepurcell
isnt lowe having a better year than mark mulder?
2005-09-22 19:30:56
82.   Bob Timmermann
Bases loaded in Chicago for Jermaine Dye with one out. It's Rincon's game to lose.
2005-09-22 19:32:04
83.   natepurcell
so lowe is top 5 in ERAs of FA pitchers and he gets a honerable worst mention? i dont follow the logic there.
2005-09-22 19:32:51
84.   Bob Timmermann
Dye pops up to right field. Bases remain loaded. Uribe up.
2005-09-22 19:33:56
85.   Bob Timmermann
You might also want to ask why Randy Johnson was a worse acquistion for the Yankees than Russ Ortiz was for the Diamonbacks.
2005-09-22 19:34:02
86.   werthgagne31
A question.

Do you think the dodgers will have enough power in the lineup next year assuming this is our lineup.

navarro c, choi/seanz 1b, kent 2b, robles/izturis/perez/aybar ss, aybar/perez/robles 3b, outfield drew, and 2 of werth/ledee/bradley/cruz/giles.

Personally i only like 2 or less positions with little power unless you have a couple power hitters that will give you 40 or more each, which none of the above names will.

Assuming the best power offense in all those positions, you have navarro c, choi/seanz 1b, kent 2b, perez ss, aybar 3b, drew of, giles of, and the best power left out of werth/ledee/bradley/cruz for the final outfield spot, that just isn't enough power, we are lacking in one position.

And consider our pitching isn't going to be as good next year, according to many people here and other boards.

I don't know what do you think.

2005-09-22 19:35:47
87.   Bob Timmermann
Uribe pops out to center.

Free baseball in Chicago.

Ken Harrelson is not happy.

2005-09-22 19:36:30
88.   DaveP
Does anyone even take Steve Phillips seriously? When I see an article by him I immediately skip over it.

nate - glad to see you got your priorities straight. You can always study tomorrow :)

2005-09-22 19:37:36
89.   DaveP
that was ugly
2005-09-22 19:38:04
90.   Gold Star for Robot Boy

Over at BTF, a "heart and soul and Lo Duca" thread has turned into a debate over DePo.
Matt Welch is there, stating Adrian Beltre should've been re-signed because he can stay in the lineup, unlike brittle boys like Drew.
I begged to differ.

2005-09-22 19:38:08
91.   DaveP
Phillips needed that wheelchair Steve spoke of earlier.
2005-09-22 19:38:18
92.   Bob Timmermann
That result was not unexpected was it? I would think that any player not named Jason Phillips or Bengie Molina would have scored on that hit and likely been sitting in the dugout having a drink of water before the ball got there.
2005-09-22 19:38:33
93.   natepurcell
even though any otherperson in MLB could have scored on that double, phillips did try his hardest and hustled.

but he is still slower than sloth.

2005-09-22 19:39:25
94.   natepurcell
re: 90

who is matt welch?

2005-09-22 19:41:17
95.   Bob Timmermann
Matt Welch is a freelance writer, who mainly writes political pieces for Reason magazine. But he's a big baseball fan, especially of the Angels. But he's really disliking DePodesta this year.

And he was a friend of Dave Hansen's growing up I believe.

2005-09-22 19:41:36
96.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Online pundit, LA resident.
2005-09-22 19:42:12
97.   natepurcell
so basically, his opinion shouldnt even matter...
2005-09-22 19:43:53
98.   GoBears
But Phillips was out by 10 feet. And, I didn't this this was possible, be he slowed down between 3rd and home! He was almost going backwards. As soon as that ball got over the fielder's head, I yelled "don't send Phillips!" What the heck was Hoffman thinking? Was Weaver due up? Even so, he's not a bad hitter - I'd take my chances rather than run into the sure out. Really, Clayton's throw did not have to be perfect.
2005-09-22 19:44:40
99.   GoBears
uh..."THINK this was possible..."
2005-09-22 19:45:02
100.   Bob Timmermann
Matt Welch was the moderator for an L.A. Press Club event on baseball coverage that featured our esteemed Jon Weisman.
Matt is a fairly astute student of the game.
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2005-09-22 19:45:13
101.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Where's Enders? We should tag-team wrestle Welch over this.
2005-09-22 19:45:31
102.   Bob Timmermann
Twins didn't score in the 10th. Crain in for Rincon.
2005-09-22 19:46:14
103.   Bob Timmermann
Bartlett boots a Podsednik grounder to let the leadoff man reach.

I smell bunt here by Crede.

2005-09-22 19:46:20
104.   D4P
Not only has Clark hit 30 HRs, but the guy is OPSing at 1.033. 1.033! Where'd that come from?
2005-09-22 19:46:36
105.   Icaros
If Beltre is in the lineup everyday with a .717 OPS, is that a good thing all of a sudden?
2005-09-22 19:47:20
106.   Bob Timmermann
And Crede sacrifices Podsednik over to second. Pierzynski at bat.
2005-09-22 19:47:45
107.   confucius
34. I can't even remember Scott Stewart that's how decisive his victory was.
2005-09-22 19:48:06
108.   natepurcell
clark has found the fountain of youth: playing home games in the bob.

now if clark can ops over 1.000 at the bob, why can green only OPS in the 800s?

2005-09-22 19:48:22
109.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
My favorite Tony Clark trivia: Lute Olsen recruited him to Arizona. But I don't think he played a minute for the Wildcats.
2005-09-22 19:48:43
110.   Bob Timmermann
Pierzynski is purposely passed in favor of Iguchi.
2005-09-22 19:51:15
111.   Eric L
I can't find anything about Penny's previous injuries (other than the one last year). It looks like he might have had shoulder problems in the past. Does anyone know the extent of the shoulder injury?
2005-09-22 19:51:43
112.   Telemachos
It's funny that I'm getting more Twins-Sox updates here than any commentary about the D-backs/Dodgers.
2005-09-22 19:51:50
113.   Bob Timmermann
Iguchi bounces into an easy 5-3 DP.

The Hawk is displeased.

2005-09-22 19:52:30
114.   Bob Timmermann
I'm getting back at the people who kept giving me Jacksonville updates when I wanted to talk about the Dodgers.
2005-09-22 19:52:51
115.   GoBears
Hey Mr. Timmermann,

Are you being renamed tomorrow as well?

2005-09-22 19:53:13
116.   natepurcell
chad tracy is a good little hitter.

tracy, jackson, drew, quentin and maybe upton. wow, thats a very solid core of young positional talent. i am actually jealous.

2005-09-22 19:53:27
117.   confucius
105. Not for what he costs.
2005-09-22 19:54:40
118.   Bob Timmermann
Ford leads off the 11th with a 140' bloop double.
2005-09-22 19:55:07
119.   confucius
108. At the bob? Don't you mean the Chase?
2005-09-22 19:55:47
120.   DaveP
114 - Jacksonville Vice President and General Manager Peter Bragan, Jr. was named the co-recipient of the Jimmy Bragan Executive of the Year Award.
2005-09-22 19:55:53
121.   Sam DC
Just checking in -- Happy Birthday to Little Weisgirl!!!

115 Huh?

2005-09-22 19:56:18
122.   Sam DC
Just checking in -- Happy Birthday to Little Weisgirl!!!

115 Huh?

2005-09-22 19:57:09
123.   Sam DC
Really, I have absolutely no idea how that happened. None.
2005-09-22 19:57:48
124.   confucius
It seems like the Dodgers have hit into seventy-four double plays this series.
2005-09-22 19:58:14
125.   Bob Timmermann
Why would I be getting renamed tomorrow?
2005-09-22 19:59:19
126.   Bob Timmermann
Ahh, got it now. The jokes were sort of out of order.
2005-09-22 20:00:06
127.   Bob Timmermann
Bartlett grounds out and Ford holds. Mauer is getting an IBB from Jenks.
LeCroy at bat.
2005-09-22 20:00:32
128.   confucius
Russell Martin would have scored on Repko's double.
2005-09-22 20:02:51
129.   Sam DC
Wild pitch scores Casey Blake, 8-6 CLE in the 8th.
2005-09-22 20:03:40
130.   Bob Timmermann
LeCroy single drives in Ford and it's 2-1 Twins with 1 out in the 11th.

Cleveland leads 8-6 in the 8th.

Angels lead Texas 3-2.

2005-09-22 20:04:32
131.   Sam DC
Bob, you got the Minn-Sox score up faster than my gameday. Pretty good.
2005-09-22 20:04:52
132.   GoBears
Hmm, perhaps that "JOKE" only made sense to those watching Vin. Not that it was funny in any case. For the TV-less, the BOB is being renamed tomorrow, b/c JP Morgan Chase is the new licensee. So it'll be Chase Field or some such. They showed a guy in the OF bleachers with a sign that said "See ya, BOB" or something like that.

Uh, never mind.

2005-09-22 20:04:55
133.   Bob Timmermann
2-run double by Jones makes it 4-1 Twins in the 11th.

I think Harrelson is going to start shooting at people.

2005-09-22 20:05:28
134.   Bob Timmermann
Well, I'm watching the White Sox-Twins game for starters.
2005-09-22 20:05:31
135.   DaveP
I'm looking for Kuo to pitch the 7th or 8th tonight. His performance the other night should have reminded Tracy that he's on the roster.
2005-09-22 20:07:21
136.   natepurcell
we should turn repko into a power bullpen arm. i am about 85% on this.
2005-09-22 20:07:43
137.   natepurcell
*85% serious.
2005-09-22 20:07:49
138.   Eric L
101Matt seems to be grasping at straws in trying to blame DePo for the injuries.

Most of the time, the stuff that Matt Welch writes (baseball wise) is pretty good stuff. I'd refute him in the thread, but I fear that BL might show up.

2005-09-22 20:08:05
139.   Sam DC
And Hafner's up with bases loaded in CLE.

132 Thanks. An absolutely worthy joke even if not clear to a noisy few.

2005-09-22 20:08:52
140.   Sam DC
139 for CLE, in KC.
2005-09-22 20:09:36
141.   Bob Timmermann
For starters, you can go to
And you get the Chase page now.

Because you know JPMorganChase just wasn't a big enough bank without acquiring BankOne.

2005-09-22 20:11:08
142.   Bob Timmermann
Nathan pitching for the Twins in the 11th. Everett leading off with Konerko to follow.
2005-09-22 20:11:46
143.   Icaros
136 They should've done it 2-3 years ago, but I guess they were still under the impression that he might be able to hit.
2005-09-22 20:13:20
144.   Sam DC
Hafner walks.
2005-09-22 20:13:43
145.   Bob Timmermann
Let's get crackin' with McCracken!
2005-09-22 20:15:25
146.   natepurcell
this will be one less quality start for boras to use in his quest for a 10 mil a yr contract this winter.
2005-09-22 20:16:41
147.   D4P
I was thinking the same thing. I want Weaver to get rocked in every start for the remainder of the season.
2005-09-22 20:18:06
148.   Bob Timmermann
I demand the Dodgers score a run off of the Arizona bullpen tonight.

If not, I will be unhappy. And displeased. And disappointed. And I will start sounding like Ken Harrelson and Darrin Jackson.

2005-09-22 20:18:52
149.   DaveP
got my wish. Kuo is up in the pen.
2005-09-22 20:20:19
150.   natepurcell
hahahaha. clayton is the bully in 5th grade, phillips is the little fat kid in 4th grade who gets picked up and milk money stolen. this quite sad.
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2005-09-22 20:20:19
151.   Bob Timmermann

You are slow. Falling over will not make you faster.

Thank you,


2005-09-22 20:20:21
152.   DaveP
as if Phillips isn't slow enough, he dives into first to slow himself up just a little more.
2005-09-22 20:20:43
153.   Bob Timmermann
And it's over in Chicago. Twins 4, White Sox 1.
2005-09-22 20:20:59
154.   Icaros
And then Phillips slides headfirst to slow himself down even more. He's apparently as stupid as he is lousy.
2005-09-22 20:21:21
155.   natepurcell
I was thinking the same thing. I want Weaver to get rocked in every start for the remainder of the season.

so i assume that means you would like to see weaver back at the right price. what is the right price to you? roughly brad penny money?

2005-09-22 20:22:13
156.   Bob Timmermann
Ahh, Myrow... The situational hitter....

If Phillips were safe, there would just be a runners on first and second though because Phillips would have had to hold on that play.

Or maybe even have been forced at second!

2005-09-22 20:22:37
157.   Icaros
Nate, Bob, and Dave were all nicer about it than I was, and faster. I shouldn't waste my time with insults.
2005-09-22 20:24:06
158.   Steve
That is why I love this website.

Matt is generally correct when he says that the Dodgers are visionless, but he's barking up a tree about Drew.

2005-09-22 20:25:01
159.   Bob Timmermann
The thing about it is that making fun of Jason Phillips's sloth is very easy. And to be fair to Phillips, I don't know if there's much he can do to make himself faster. He can make himself a better hitter or fielder.

But God/Nature/Zeus/Zoroaster/(Insert Deity here) made Jason Phillips slow.

2005-09-22 20:25:12
160.   Sam DC
That's a very professional at bat by a great young player.
2005-09-22 20:25:28
161.   D4P
It's not so much that I WANT to see Weaver back, but rather that if Depo wants him back, I'd rather have him be as cheap as possible.
2005-09-22 20:26:22
162.   Sam DC
CLE piling on -- 10-6 now. Amazing.
2005-09-22 20:26:41
163.   Icaros
Aybar's eyes while batting remind me of Alex's stare in the opening of A Clockwork Orange.
2005-09-22 20:27:07
164.   natepurcell
did cormier just find aybar's hole?
2005-09-22 20:27:11
165.   Bob Timmermann
Texas ties the Angels at 3-3.
2005-09-22 20:27:36
166.   Sam DC
For future readers, 160 was Myrow's walk, not a dig at Aybar.
2005-09-22 20:29:17
167.   Steve
I like Myrow. I think people pre-disposed toward Choi would like Myrow too, if he hadn't played instead of Choi in that one game.
2005-09-22 20:29:19
168.   Icaros
If this game meant anything, I'd really be getting a case of the The Steves right now.

As it is, Bob lied to me earlier this season, and that hurts.

2005-09-22 20:30:27
169.   Kayaker7
159 Maybe he should get a tan? ;-)
2005-09-22 20:30:35
170.   Bob Timmermann
Mike Rose time! Woo hoo!
2005-09-22 20:32:30
171.   natepurcell
if anyone is wactching the dback broadcast, notice how crazy the old flag waving woman is.
2005-09-22 20:33:22
172.   Bob Timmermann
Craig Counsell is getting close to being on my list.

He did go to ... that school ... in Indiana ... where the Catholics go ... but I dare not speak its name ... the school that turns me into a USC football fan once a year ...

2005-09-22 20:34:39
173.   natepurcell
are you talking about holy cross junior college bob?
2005-09-22 20:35:20
174.   Icaros
172 Do they have a Hunchback that hangs out there?
2005-09-22 20:36:26
175.   natepurcell
i pray to gagne that tracy wont restrict kuo to a LOOGY role next year.
2005-09-22 20:37:05
176.   Bob Timmermann

Sanctuary! Sanctuary! Sanctuary! Sanctuary!

2005-09-22 20:37:59
177.   Icaros
175 I pray to Gagne that Tracy won't have a say in any of that next year.
2005-09-22 20:38:18
178.   D4P
I pray to Gagne that Tracy won't be managing the Dodgers next year.
2005-09-22 20:38:40
179.   natepurcell
grace just asked if tawainese people speak the same language as japanese people.

maybe gracie... maybe....

2005-09-22 20:39:53
180.   Icaros
Kuo can get it up faster than 93, can't he?
2005-09-22 20:40:12
181.   Bob Timmermann
I thought Choi was the chosen deity of DT? Or is he just the official demigod of DT? And Gagne is the official omnipotent being of DT? I need to put my pantheon in order.
2005-09-22 20:40:32
182.   Kayaker7
Grace: So, is he Japanese or Chinese?
A: He's Taiwanese.
Grace: .....So, he's...Japanese?
2005-09-22 20:40:43
183.   Icaros
Okay, those last two were 95, but nowhere near the strikezone.
2005-09-22 20:41:20
184.   D4P
Steiner said he just hit 96.
2005-09-22 20:41:27
185.   808Bears
179 sure... we all look the same, right?
please... just stop...
2005-09-22 20:41:33
186.   Bob Timmermann

Mark Grace must have had the same reaction that my father did back in the mid 1990s when he found out that Japan invaded China during World War II.

And my father was alive during World War II!

2005-09-22 20:41:50
187.   Icaros
Thank you for that, Hong-Chi.
2005-09-22 20:42:19
188.   808Bears
that was directed at mark grace and the diamondbacks broadcast, to be clear
2005-09-22 20:43:02
189.   Bob Timmermann
My father also, upon visiting the Lexington and Concord battlefields, asked my mom why were fighting the English since we're allies.

My dad wasn't much into history.

2005-09-22 20:43:02
190.   natepurcell
i love hong chih kuo.

can kuo officially take over as the diety of the eastern world?

kuo was getting it up to 95 againt green. kuo looked very pumped up after the K(u)-O

2005-09-22 20:44:04
191.   DaveP
Kuo was clocked as high as 99mph in Jacksonville, but I think 95 or 96 has been his top speed with the big club. With that nice curveball, 95 will get it done.
2005-09-22 20:44:41
192.   Bob Timmermann
So Cleveland won 11-6 and is now 1 1/2 behind Chicago in the AL Cental and 1 1/2 ahead of the Red Sox in the AL wild card.
2005-09-22 20:45:47
193.   Icaros
Oh, did spell his name wrong? It's Hong Chih?
2005-09-22 20:46:49
194.   natepurcell
if he can "only" throw 92-95 because he is scared of over throwing and breaking his arm again, then its fine with me.

a healthy 92-95mph rchargable kuo is better than a 99mph used once and throw away kuo

2005-09-22 20:47:47
195.   Icaros
Did Kuo throw that curve to Bonds? I didn't understand why he kept pumping in fastball after fastball to the best hitter of all time.
2005-09-22 20:48:14
196.   Kayaker7
189 LOL. Love your dad. He must be a load of fun with a keg of beer.
2005-09-22 20:48:45
197.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers transliterate the name as Hong-Chih Kuo.

He probably writes his name differently.

2005-09-22 20:49:11
198.   natepurcell
Did Kuo throw that curve to Bonds? I didn't understand why he kept pumping in fastball after fastball to the best hitter of all time.

it was a battle of the Gods. the western diety won that one, but the eastern world will triumph in the end.

it has been written.

2005-09-22 20:49:22
199.   oldbear
Kuo has shaved about 70 runs off his ERA since tuesday.
2005-09-22 20:50:33
200.   Bob Timmermann

And my dad didn't even drink! He was actually above average in most subjects in school.

Just not history. He even went to college for a year, but had to drop out to go help out on the family farm.

He compensated by marrying my mom, who loved history (and of course was a biology major in college), and had two of his four sons get history degrees.

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2005-09-22 20:51:11
201.   Icaros
I get annoyed when non-disciples spell it Hee-Sop Choi.
2005-09-22 20:51:52
202.   oldbear
Cruz with a 1 pitch non-olney.
2005-09-22 20:52:09
203.   Icaros
I really want Mark Grace to shut up right now.
2005-09-22 20:52:47
204.   D4P
Will Choi get to pinch hit tonight?
2005-09-22 20:53:22
205.   Icaros
198 But did he throw the curve? I only saw the last two or three pitches.
2005-09-22 20:53:55
206.   natepurcell
I really want Mark Grace to shut up right now.

i want mark grace to "accidently" say words that are banned from DT

2005-09-22 20:54:42
207.   Bob Timmermann
Way to take one for the team, Ricky! HBP #63 for the Dodgers. 9 short of the L.A. record!
2005-09-22 20:54:52
208.   Kayaker7
200 Your dad is the polar opposite of my dad. My dad loves the drink, and he knows minute details of history. 90% of what I know about history, I learned while sharing some suds with my dad.

When my brother graduated from the Naval Academy, my dad was interested in seeing a Korean naval flag captured by the US Navy in a battle on the Naktong river, during Lincoln's term in office. Sure enough, it was in the academy museum.

2005-09-22 20:55:24
209.   D4P
Why pinch hit for Mr. Clutch with the bases loaded?:(
2005-09-22 20:56:15
210.   oldbear
Repko..... I hope he's enjoying his days as a Dodger.

That was brutal.

2005-09-22 20:56:20
211.   natepurcell
so is tracy saving choi for..... next year?
2005-09-22 20:56:53
212.   Icaros
I never meet people in real life named Buddy, but there sure seem to be a few of them in baseball.
2005-09-22 20:57:12
213.   D4P
Yep. Myrow > Rose > Choi
2005-09-22 20:57:29
214.   natepurcell
i really want us to be blown out in one of these upcoming games so tracy can put repko on the mound and see how much he can bring it. wouldnt that be an interesting expirement?
2005-09-22 20:57:39
215.   Kayaker7
211 Maybe Tracy thinks he pinch hit for Choi with Myrow.
2005-09-22 20:57:43
216.   Bob Timmermann
My father knew stuff like how much a gallon of milk weighed. Or many gallons of milk an average cow would produce in a day. Or how many acres a field is by just looking at it.

I would ask him how much a gallon of milk right now, but where he is now, he ain't takin' phone calls.

2005-09-22 20:57:59
217.   oldbear
Mike Rose is so intimidating that the Dbacks are bringing in the Loogy to get him out...
2005-09-22 20:58:36
218.   Bob Timmermann
At least we scored a run off the Arizona pen.

I can back off the ledge now.

2005-09-22 20:59:08
219.   Bob Timmermann
4-3 Angels in the 6th.
2005-09-22 20:59:38
220.   Icaros
216 Can you send him a text message?
2005-09-22 20:59:48
221.   Bob Timmermann
No, I'm not an experienced plumber or pipefitter.
2005-09-22 21:00:14
222.   Kayaker7
216 Bless his soul.

I hope I can enjoy suds with my dad for years to come.

2005-09-22 21:00:41
223.   Bob Timmermann

The last time I went to go see him where is now, I couldn't even find him. I found my mom and said hi, but I couldn't find my dad.

2005-09-22 21:01:35
224.   Steve
Did Repko just hit for himself with the bases loaded?
2005-09-22 21:02:15
225.   GoBears
216: about 8 lbs.
2005-09-22 21:02:16
226.   Bob Timmermann
Yes Repko did.

And then when Rose grounded out, my cable system went to a commercial before he was even thrown out.

2005-09-22 21:03:19
227.   Kayaker7
223, he is still alive then? I just assumed that he was no longer among the living.
2005-09-22 21:03:24
228.   Steve
And Shawn Green threw Jason Phillips out at home at some point? I have a case of the Icaroses.
2005-09-22 21:04:32
229.   Icaros
226 A smart cable system would have just gone to commercial before Repko and Rose even "batted."
2005-09-22 21:05:05
230.   natepurcell
i want to see brazoban pitch. i like that new change up.
2005-09-22 21:06:07
231.   Icaros
228 LOL. I think The Steves sounds a lot better. I mean it as an affectionate tribute.
2005-09-22 21:07:54
232.   Steve
Did Glenn Hoffman get a case of the Hoffmans on that play, or was he an innocent victim of circumstance?
2005-09-22 21:08:12
233.   Bob Timmermann
No, my father has passed away. As has my mother.

They're in separate plots.

Long, unpleasant story.

They weren't divorced either.

2005-09-22 21:09:11
234.   Icaros
232 Definitely a case of The Hoffmans. It was a bad throw and Phillips was still out by a mile.
2005-09-22 21:10:18
235.   oldbear
I'm beginning to disdain Oscar Robles in the same vain as Cesar Izturis.

I think its caused by severe overuse and being placed at the top of the lineup.

2005-09-22 21:10:33
236.   Icaros
Long, unpleasant story.

Is it Six Feet Under worthy? I'm sorry.

2005-09-22 21:10:35
237.   Kayaker7
233 Oh, I see. Bless their souls.
2005-09-22 21:10:48
238.   DaveP
Robles should steal second here.
2005-09-22 21:11:03
239.   DaveP
just kidding :)
2005-09-22 21:12:30
240.   Bob Timmermann

Some things are not proper for sharing in this forum. You can ask me offline.

2005-09-22 21:14:35
241.   Icaros
240 I wasn't trying to make light of the matter, nor was I trying to be overly nosy. Sorry if it came off that way.
2005-09-22 21:14:58
242.   Kayaker7
I can see it now. Choi walk off HR in the 10th.
2005-09-22 21:15:35
243.   confucius
226. So did mine. It's not like the game matters, but still it's ridiculous.
2005-09-22 21:16:00
244.   Steve
The Dodgers scored a run off the Arizona Bullpen!
2005-09-22 21:17:21
245.   coachjpark
25 Korean-American Dodger fans are extremly upset....
2005-09-22 21:18:06
246.   DaveP
I'm beginning to think the same intern that ran the Rockie's scoreboard last month is now producing FSW2 broadcasts.
2005-09-22 21:18:21
247.   Kayaker7
GIDP. I hate those letters.
2005-09-22 21:18:49
248.   oldbear Very professional at bat.
2005-09-22 21:18:55
249.   Kayaker7
245 Anyonghaseyo, Coach.
2005-09-22 21:20:52
250.   Bob Timmermann

You weren't. Don't worry about it.

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2005-09-22 21:20:54
251.   Kayaker7
The lineup is set for the Choi walk-off. ;-)
2005-09-22 21:20:56
252.   oldbear
The Dodgers have to be the only team, that is completely out of it, that still trots out players with no future with the ballclub in september.

Meanwhile, AP, Choi are collecting dust. Along with Jayson Werth on the bench.

Seeing Repko, Edwards, Phillips, Saenz tonight is just terrific.

2005-09-22 21:22:35
253.   Jon Weisman
Monty Basgall has died.
2005-09-22 21:24:22
254.   fanerman
2005-09-22 21:24:35
255.   natepurcell
yhencys control was outstanding. and he threw a slider at 90mph. that was filthy.
2005-09-22 21:25:57
256.   Kayaker7
252 Tracy is like Stever Spurrier. He likes to run up the score.
2005-09-22 21:28:07
257.   coachjpark
249 Pilsung, Korea!!!!

A Choi walk-off would not be good... as that would imply that he'd be playing for the D-Backs....

However, I'm going out on a limb and say that Choi is going to deposit a ball in the formerly known as Bank One Ballpark pool....

Choi Hee Seop! Choi Hee Seop! (pronounced Che)
The surname goes first... I tried that chant at Dodger stadium but Hee Seop Choi flows so much better...

2005-09-22 21:29:12
258.   Bob Timmermann
Monty Basgall's real first name was Romanus.

And he apparently didn't have a middle name.

2005-09-22 21:29:37
259.   natepurcell
here it comes...
2005-09-22 21:29:45
260.   Icaros
I remember that when he first came up they called him Park Chan Ho.
2005-09-22 21:30:03
261.   Kayaker7
257 LOL. You're right about the walk-off. I just had too many beers.

최희섭 fighting!

2005-09-22 21:30:30
262.   Icaros
That first strike call was bogus.
2005-09-22 21:30:33
263.   confucius
Dontrelle batted in the 7th spot today. I think he had a single.
Does anyone remember in 2002 when the Dodgers had 5 pitchers (or something like that) hit homeruns?
2005-09-22 21:31:18
264.   Kayaker7
Ah well, so it goes.
2005-09-22 21:31:20
265.   natepurcell
2005-09-22 21:33:48
266.   oldbear
We'll see how good Brazo does against some better hitters this inning.
2005-09-22 21:34:36
267.   Bob Timmermann
Wow, five pitchers did homer for the Dodgers that year.

And two of them were by Andy Ashby and Omar Daal! The other three were by Nomo, Odalis, and Brown.

Guillermo Mota hit a homer in 2003! ??? !

The Dodgers pitchers don't have any this year.

2005-09-22 21:35:02
268.   Bob Timmermann
7-3 Angels with 1 out in the 9th.
2005-09-22 21:35:14
269.   confucius
Robles made that look easy. Usually he doesn't.
2005-09-22 21:35:28
270.   Jon Weisman
263 -

Dodger Thoughts, the early days.

2005-09-22 21:35:34
271.   coachjpark
Choi homerun in the top of the 11th.... that's what i meant....
2005-09-22 21:36:25
272.   Steve
1 and 1/2 games.

That's all there is to live for this year now. 1 and 1/2 games.

2005-09-22 21:36:40
273.   Bob Timmermann
If Choi homers in the 11th, the Dodgers will have scored at least 6 runs.
2005-09-22 21:36:48
274.   Johnson

They who are called Romanus, they go, the house?

(Couldn't help myself.)

2005-09-22 21:37:47
275.   confucius
267. Crazy. All five starters. I thought maybe I had embelished the stats as I sometimes do. I remember the one Odalis hit was against Arizona. He pitched eight shut out innings and the Dodgers won 1-0. I think he homered off of shilling too.
2005-09-22 21:37:50
276.   Bob Timmermann
Productive out makes it 7-4 Angels with 2 outs.
2005-09-22 21:37:58
277.   natepurcell
i am dissapointed, brazoban didnt use his newfound change up.
2005-09-22 21:39:09
278.   Bob Timmermann
Odalis homered in the 5th and it was off of Rick Helling.
2005-09-22 21:39:46
279.   Steve
Braz has got to get it straight. He's too good for this nonsense.
2005-09-22 21:40:06
280.   coachjpark
12th inning, then...
2005-09-22 21:40:12
281.   confucius
270. Exactly. Thanks Jon.
2005-09-22 21:41:24
282.   oldbear
Which AAA affiliate will Repko be playing for next year?
2005-09-22 21:41:24
283.   confucius
275. Well that's not impressing.
2005-09-22 21:41:55
284.   Bob Timmermann
I believe this game was the last time a Dodger pitcher threw a complete game 1-0 victory and hit a home run for the only score.

Bob Welch defeating Mario Soto

2005-09-22 21:42:00
285.   Steve
282 -- The Dodgers!

(rim shot)

2005-09-22 21:42:22
286.   Bob Timmermann
Light up the halo!
2005-09-22 21:43:03
287.   Bob Timmermann
The DBacks thought Rick Helling would be as good as Curt Schilling.

They really did.

2005-09-22 21:43:33
288.   confucius
Aybar went 2 for 6. That'll drop his average.
2005-09-22 21:45:16
289.   confucius
284. I didn't know he went all nine.
287. And the dodgers thought that highly of Perez.
2005-09-22 21:45:42
290.   Bob Timmermann
So, is reporting that Palmeiro ratted out Miguel Tejada. Mr. Tejada is not happy.
2005-09-22 21:45:45
291.   oldbear
Robles seems to always make the last out of the inning, whenever Kent's on deck.
2005-09-22 21:47:01
292.   natepurcell
why is tracy using brazoban for his 3rd straight inning?
2005-09-22 21:47:04
293.   Bob Timmermann
Clayton is bunting. Take that to the bank.
2005-09-22 21:47:38
294.   confucius
I forgot Omar Daal ever existed. Is he still playing? I thought he was somewhere in the AL central last year.
2005-09-22 21:48:41
295.   natepurcell
hmmm, i see a slide step from brazoban... interesting, he has learned all the things people were complaining he should learn.
2005-09-22 21:49:12
296.   Bob Timmermann
Omar Daal last pitched in the majors in 2003 for Baltimore.
2005-09-22 21:50:29
297.   coachjpark
Off-topic: What's Ross Porter up to?
2005-09-22 21:50:36
298.   King of the Hobos
295 Slide step or not, it's meaningless with Phillips
2005-09-22 21:51:04
299.   D4P
Nice to see him finally come around now that the season's over.
2005-09-22 21:51:07
300.   kodax
One good thing to think about for next year. I dont see Kent slowing down at all. He has a compact economical swing that generates its own power and doesnt require great bat speed. He also doesnt really like the game so he wont suddenly will not quit in a state on ennui.
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2005-09-22 21:51:35
301.   Jon Weisman
298 - Or Mike Rose?
2005-09-22 21:52:08
302.   Bob Timmermann
Bob Welch threw 61 complete games in his career.

Anybody want to guess which Dodgers pitcher this season had the most starting the season?

2005-09-22 21:52:13
303.   oldbear
Surprised Yhency would pitch around Conor Jackson considering Jackson is hitting .159 against RHP
2005-09-22 21:52:45
304.   kodax
You know what I mean. Anyway...hes probably good for a couple momre years.
2005-09-22 21:53:22
305.   kodax
typos are good. It shows you are busy.
2005-09-22 21:53:44
306.   Xeifrank
Dodger win expectancy is 27.2%, but of course the calculator doesn't take into effect who is hitting. vr, Xei
2005-09-22 21:53:52
307.   oldbear
I'd bring the Bull in right now.
2005-09-22 21:53:57
308.   confucius
It sounds like Palmeiro is trying to divert the attention. I don't think they would suspend him for B12. Palmeiro should just come clean. It worked for Giambi.
2005-09-22 21:55:21
309.   confucius
302. weaver then lowe. That's my guess
2005-09-22 21:55:23
310.   Bob Timmermann
Duaner Sanchez should feel honored that he has now become too important to use in this situation.

But I doubt Tracy wants to toss Broxton in with runners on. And I don't think Wilson Alvarez is a good option.

2005-09-22 21:55:28
311.   King of the Hobos
301 That slipped my mind. It's actually more meaningless with Rose
2005-09-22 21:55:55
312.   kodax
BTW, I dont think Matsui makes a good dodger. His power numbers would go way down as he takes advantage of that short porch in RF. At best, I think he becomes a 300 hitting doubles hitter with maybe 15-20 homers.
2005-09-22 21:56:38
313.   Xeifrank
Dodger WEC: 36.9%
vr, Xei
2005-09-22 21:56:39
314.   Jon Weisman
302 - Scott Erickson?
2005-09-22 21:56:49
315.   Bob Timmermann
Weaver had 10 CGs starting this year. Lowe had 2.

Perez had 4. Penny had 2.

Even if you go by the active roster, there is somebody who had more.

2005-09-22 21:57:28
316.   Bob Timmermann
Scott Erickson had 51 CGs in his career.

Wilson Alvarez briefly held the lead with 12 CGs.

2005-09-22 21:57:40
317.   confucius
300. Yeah, there aren't any signs of a major statistical decline. I think it's too early to question his longevity.
2005-09-22 21:57:47
318.   kodax
If this were a High Heat game, I bring in a lefty now.
2005-09-22 21:59:03
319.   confucius
I can't believe Lowe only had two. One of them was a no hitter.
2005-09-22 21:59:56
320.   Bob Timmermann
In memoriam

2005-09-22 22:00:05
321.   oldbear
Yhency. 3ip 0runs 3k's 1bb
30 strikes
2005-09-22 22:00:35
322.   Bob Timmermann
Lowe has been a reliever for a good part of his career.
2005-09-22 22:00:54
323.   Bob Timmermann
Isn't this pitcher a quarterback for the Rams?
2005-09-22 22:01:03
324.   Xeifrank
Not being able to get that bunt down... really saved the Dodgers. Looks like the DBacks bunt as poorly as the Dodgers do. I expect a Tracy bunt this inning, he doesn't want to be managed worse than. vr, Xei
2005-09-22 22:01:39
325.   kodax
Speaking of Kent..I would give him the rest of the year off. Make sure some freak injury doesnt slow him down for next year.
2005-09-22 22:02:14
326.   oldbear
Arizona is on their 8th pitcher of the evening.
2005-09-22 22:02:29
327.   kodax
324 - Yes..the bunt glove has been thrown down and Tracy must retaliate.
2005-09-22 22:03:00
328.   Xeifrank
Wonder where the Astros are going to play if hurricane Rita damages Minute Maid park.
vr, Xei
2005-09-22 22:03:23
329.   confucius
312. I agree. I think you can throw out the RBI numbers because of the hitters that would be around him. I think he'll be overpaid. The dodgers could use him but I doubt if they'd get their money's worth.
2005-09-22 22:03:44
330.   Bob Timmermann
The DBacks, despite playing in one of the best hitters parks in the majors, have 67 sacrifices this year. That's only the 10th highest total in the NL though.

The Dodgers have 57.

The Nationals and Giants each have 87.

Interestingly, the Nationals and Giants have two of the worst offenses in the NL.

2005-09-22 22:05:46
331.   Xeifrank
330. Interesting. So, more bunting leads to poor offense? Or poor offense leads to more bunting? vr, Xei
2005-09-22 22:06:10
332.   Bob Timmermann
The Astros aren't home again until the 29th I believe. They do have contingency plans they say. They have just four home games left, not counting the playoffs.
2005-09-22 22:07:35
333.   kodax
331- I think good managers bunt when they have poor offenses. Bad managers make their offense poor by bunting.
2005-09-22 22:08:19
334.   Bob Timmermann
So how do we classify Frank Robinson and Felipe Alou?
2005-09-22 22:10:33
335.   kodax
Back in the mid to late 80s as a Mets fan, I feared Whitey's bunting almost as much as a Jack Clark home run. It was truly an offensive weapon..they could do it at will and it really instilled a feeling of helplessness.
2005-09-22 22:11:42
336.   Bob Timmermann
The Astros are saying that they might play their final home games at their AAA park in Round Rock, but that seats only 15,000.

They might have to go searching for a home like the Marlins did last year. They played the Expos in a home game in Chicago.

2005-09-22 22:13:15
337.   confucius
I'm glad Sanchez has gotten so much work this year. It gives you an idea of what you're going to get with him. Which for me it seems he's not as good as I want him to be, but better than I thought he'd be.
2005-09-22 22:13:28
338.   kodax
It can completely demoralize a team if the opposition can impose their will even though you know what they are trying to do.
2005-09-22 22:15:15
339.   Bob Timmermann
The L.A. team record for sacrifices in a season is 120 in 1964. The Brooklyn record is 197 in 1907.

The 1964 Dodgers were 80-82.
The 1907 Dodgers were 65-83.

2005-09-22 22:15:57
340.   coachjpark
Magic Number: 2
2005-09-22 22:16:12
341.   natepurcell
damnit. that change up wasnt where it was suppose to be.
2005-09-22 22:16:45
342.   King of the Hobos
I have seen it posted, so...Jackson will start on Monday in Penny's place, but Penny supposedly wants to make one last start. Perez will be activated Saturday and make 2 starts, with Dessens relieving after about 40-45 pitches

And that is just too bad for Sanchez

2005-09-22 22:16:56
343.   oldbear
Duaner Sanchez has once again, turned back into Duaner Sanchez.

Yest we all forget...

2005-09-22 22:17:10
344.   Xeifrank
Well, that was fun... I was kind of hoping the Dodgers would wait until I leave for China late friday night before they were eliminated. vr, Xei
2005-09-22 22:17:11
345.   Bob Timmermann
Dodgers elimination number:


2005-09-22 22:17:45
346.   coachjpark
Six losses in a row? Tracy deserves some blame from the media... Henson should tear him apart
2005-09-22 22:18:41
347.   oldbear
Left Hand batters kill Sanchez.
2005-09-22 22:19:31
348.   Bob Timmermann
If the Dodgers could score just 1 run off of the Arizona bullpen in 3 games, I think you have to look at the hitters for some share of the blame.

There wasn't much strategy there. The hitters aren't doing anything.

2005-09-22 22:20:20
349.   oldbear
346. When Repko was allowed to hit with the bases loaded, I pretty much accepted that Tracy had given up on this game.
2005-09-22 22:20:27
350.   alex 7
The positives: Good job by Kuo, Schmoll, and Brazoban. Aybar continues to impress. Decent work by the real hitters in the lineup.

The negatives: That 8th (?) inning with Repko and Rose and no pinch hitter (had Werth, Valentin, Choi, and Perez available) was costly.

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2005-09-22 22:23:03
351.   alex 7
The hitters that were supposed to hit did. Edwards' 0-4 in the 6 hole sticks out when the team banged out 12 hits.
2005-09-22 22:24:18
352.   Xeifrank
LAA is 87-65. My local newspaper had an online contect about two months ago where you had to guess the number of wins the Angels would finish with. I entered one time for each of my immediate family members. I guessed 92,93,94,95 and 96 wins. It's looking good now. I wonder what they do when they have multiple people guessing the same number. I suppose it's first come first serve. I think I will hit the number head on, but who knows about being the first one to do so. First is a free bunting clinic by Jim Tracy or a hit on the head with a blunt object. vr, Xei
2005-09-22 22:24:58
353.   natepurcell
how has sanches turned into the old sanchez? he threw a change that was down and in to a lefty instead of down and away. oh well. no reason to turned on him now. geez.
2005-09-22 22:34:32
354.   Xeifrank
Well, off to more pressing issues... like packing and eating all the food in the refridgerator that might spoil while I'm gone. vr, Xei
2005-09-22 22:42:33
355.   Bob Timmermann
But the Pirates are coming!
2005-09-22 22:46:23
356.   King of the Hobos
355 That hardly worth celebrating, we have Houlton and Perez to pitch the next 2 games. And Lowe may be back to bad, homer happy Lowe, and not good, other side of the rubber Lowe. The worse we do, the better the pick. I'm not Tracy, i don't play for 2nd when last is better (although it would seem he's playing for last rather than 2nd)
2005-09-22 22:52:35
357.   Jonathan
I find myself rooting for the Mariners and Tigers so the Dodgers can pick fifth overall. There's no way we're catching Tampa Bay for the fourth pick.
2005-09-22 23:00:26
358.   natepurcell
hmmm, 5th pick... matt laporta!!
2005-09-22 23:11:12
359.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers are just 3 1/2 games ahead of Tampa Bay's record.

But Tampa Bay still has Cleveland and the Angels on the schedule.

The Dodgers should stay ahead of the Rockies and out of last. Mainly because the Rockies finish up on the road at Atlanta and New York. And finishing ahead of Arizona isn't all that hard to believe since the DBacks are coming to L.A. next week.

How come the Dodgers never get to face Russ Ortiz?

2005-09-23 03:03:27
360.   GoBears
I don't think I'd blame Sanchez for that last pitch. It looked to me like it was hit off a tee - a golf tee. That was way out of the strike zone, and just 2-ironed over the wall. Nice bit of hitting.

As soon as the game was over, I switched over to DVD and watched "Waiting for Guffman." Oh man, that'll cure what ails ya. Brilliant stuff.

2005-09-23 08:41:20
361.   Howard Fox
Dodger magic number is 7
2005-09-23 10:56:20
362.   Steve
This is kinda old. In fact, it might have been covered here already. But if you took out the word Nationals and put in the word Dodgers...

2005-09-23 10:57:51
363.   Bob Timmermann
But the Naccarato prophecy says the Dodgers will finish in fourth, not fifth.

If the Dodgers finished fifth, stars would fall from the sky, large storms would batter the nation, dogs and cats would start sleeping together, and toothpaste prices would soar to $8/tube.

2005-09-23 22:05:15
364.   Tommy Naccarato
I'm pretty confident that the Dodgers are not going to get passed by the Rockies. Bt nothing makes me more happier then knowing your looking at the standings Bob! :)
2005-09-23 22:10:06
365.   Tommy Naccarato
Go Bears,
Hilarious movie. All of the Christopher Guest movies get better and better ever time you watch them.

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