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Oh, the Nerve
2006-04-07 13:43
by Jon Weisman

Eric Gagne had surgery today to remove the troublesome nerve in his right elbow and "will be allowed to resume throwing in about three weeks with a possible return to action in eight weeks," reports Ken Gurnick at

* * *

Even though I have to explain what a computer is to her every time I mention one, I'd like to publicly wish my Grandma Sue a happy 96th birthday.

* * *

Today's Game

Today's Weather

Update: Rafael Furcal was a late scratch from the starting lineup.

Comments (481)
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2006-04-07 13:59:38
1.   Bob Timmermann
Grandma Sue was born in a year that should have been a leap year, but wasn't because of the Gregorian Calendar revisions.

I'm envious.

2006-04-07 14:00:28
2.   Robert Fiore
Last year when it was announced that Gagne didn't need full-on Tommy John surgery, it was like the black clouds were divided by rays of golden sunshine to the sound of an angel chorus, you know, "AAAAAH-AAH, AAAH AAAH AAAH AAAH . . ."

This time I'm just sort of numb. You know, like the way Gagne wishes he was right now.

2006-04-07 14:01:30
3.   Telemachos
Speaking of nonegenarians(?), did anyone see Studs Turkel on the Daily Show a couple of days ago? Still sharp as a tack -- very impressive considering he's 94.
2006-04-07 14:03:49
4.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Weather looks semi-dicey.
Maybe a rainout would be for the best, allowing the banged-up players to rest another day.
2006-04-07 14:05:57
5.   sanchez101
So what is the status of the players that got banged up last games, like Kent, Furcal, Loney, and Saenz?
2006-04-07 14:09:56
6.   trainwreck
According to they are all going to be able to play.
2006-04-07 14:14:39
7.   Marty
My mother would have been 95 this year. Computers are what drove her into retirement. She couldn't deal with the PC they dropped on her desk one day.
2006-04-07 14:19:40
8.   Marty
Are the Cardinals playing in their newe stadium? Is it different/the same as old Busch?
2006-04-07 14:20:51
9.   kegtron
The Dominican doctors who operated on Beltre's abdomen probably laugh at the Dodgers medical staffs incompetence.
2006-04-07 14:23:12
10.   Borchard504
Jon - congratulations to the GM on #96 - what a gift life is! good for her, on questioning the validity and existence of said PC. Oh to spend 10 minutes with my late GM...
2006-04-07 14:28:02
11.   Linkmeister
Happy B-day to your grandmother. Tell her computers are updated versions of these:

When I went to work at the Beverly Hills Country Club (formerly Westside Racquet Club) it still had the old Burroughs calculating device which printed out bills on cards.

2006-04-07 14:28:31
12.   Johnson
1 Under what implementation of the Gregorian calendar was 1910 a leap year?
2006-04-07 14:37:07
13.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
9 - Zing!
2006-04-07 15:08:03
14.   natepurcell
Orenduff gets his first start of the season tonight. heres to dominance in the southern league and a move uo AAA by midseason.
2006-04-07 15:08:25
15.   Jon Weisman
Loney's at first, batting fifth. Repko's in center, batting seventh. Navarro's catching and batting eighth. Everything else is as it has been.
2006-04-07 15:09:17
16.   Bob Timmermann

A guy with bad math skills like me.

2006-04-07 15:11:26
17.   Jon Weisman
To this day, of all the players she has seen in person, my grandmother remains most impressed with Carl Hubbell.
2006-04-07 15:11:35
18.   natepurcell
Orenduff gets his first start of the season tonight. heres to dominance in the southern league and a move uo AAA by midseason.
2006-04-07 15:15:32
19.   blue22
18 - Is Orenduff the next guy we should have on our radar screens?

With Edwin and Tiffany gone, Hanrahan long forgotten, Miller seemingly slowed by the injury bug, and Kuo, Broxton, and Billingsley either here or close, I don't really know what the depth chart looks like for the young hurlers now.

2006-04-07 15:16:33
20.   Steve
James Loney is hitting fifth and Ryan Howard is hitting sixth. I actually like one of those.
2006-04-07 15:17:27
21.   King of the Hobos
DJ Houlton is scheduled to start for Vegas tonight. It would be nice if he's viewed as a potnetial call up before Sele
2006-04-07 15:17:35
22.   Vishal
[12] wow, that's twice now in a day this johnson guy has called bob on something. i sense a budding rivalry for bob's crown as the reigning dodger thoughts expert on random esoterica.
2006-04-07 15:18:59
23.   Vishal
[20] do you think jeff kent sees a fastball all night?
2006-04-07 15:19:47
24.   sanchez101
Orenduff, Elbert, Pimentel and Blake Johnson are all guys Im going to be paying close attention to this summer.
2006-04-07 15:20:59
25.   Bob Timmermann
With great power comes great responsibility.

That's what an uncle told me.

2006-04-07 15:22:11
26.   subclub
It least we're going up against an 0-3 team.
"We have to win a game," said manager Charlie Manuel.

2006-04-07 15:24:08
27.   natepurcell
as for high cieling hurlers, elbert is the guy you definately want to pay attention too.

blake johnson is a big sleeper and sickels tabbed him for a breakout year (if hes healthy).

I like orenduff as much as the next guy (well probably not as much as oldbear), but he just doesnt have the same cieling as elbert, billingsely, etc.

If you want to look further down the minor league system, the columbus staff have a bunch of live international arms in on their staff. Maybe one can breakout from there.

2006-04-07 15:24:10
28.   blue22
23 - If there was ever an opportunity for Loney's first dinger, this would be the place.

LA doesn't visit Colorado until mid-May, though maybe Nomar will be on injury #2 by then.

2006-04-07 15:25:18
29.   natepurcell
argh, i keep spelling ceiling wrong. sorry about that.
2006-04-07 15:27:25
30.   Sam DC
There has been much occasion to gripe about Joe Morgan on this blog in a while, but Ball Wonk picks up the slack (this is just a longish excerpt, click over for the rest):

PS: BallWonk spent the game switching between MASN and ESPN to see who is worse, our local Tweedledum and Tweedledee or Joe Morgan and Ed McMahon. As bad as T-dum and T-dee are on MASN, Morgan and whoever his chubby white-guy sidekick happens to be in any given broadcast are worse. At least the MASN announcers actually notice what's happening on the field between their minutes-long bouts of uncontrollable laughter at their own japes.

One moment in particular stood out. When the home plate umpire finally left the field in shame to commit seppeku, the only way any member of Rick Reed's crew could restore his honor after the horsecrap calls they inflicted during the series, MASN viewers had a pretty good idea what was happening, even down to whether the Metropolitans pitcher would get more warmup pitches and why Tim Tschida took the ball from him. ESPN viewers got to listen to a quarter hour of Joe Morgan and Ed McMahon talking about how, gosh, they just didn't know what was going on and gee, isn't this unusual.

2006-04-07 15:27:34
31.   D4P
"i" before "e," except after "c".
2006-04-07 15:27:42
32.   natepurcell
i think the reasoning for hitting loney in the 5th spot is that little probably thinks loney will see better pitches to hit if hes sandwiched between two vets (kent and mueller).
2006-04-07 15:29:35
33.   Steve
23 -- Not likely, but I wouldn't throw him a fastball with Mr. 9 Home Runs and 100 RBIs behind him either. What a terrible sign when even the flacks on the pre-game show are reduced to such backhanded compliments. Anyway, if the Dodgers think Loney is the solution, then I like where Loney is hitting. He's got to do it sometime, and apparently, the sooner the better.
2006-04-07 15:29:38
34.   Johnson
16 You never know. Maybe she's counting in base 11 1/9.

In a similar, but nonfractional fashion, I have just turned 20!

2006-04-07 15:31:07
35.   Bob Timmermann
When Kirk Gibson homered in Game 1 of the 1988 World Series, Johnson was 1 1/2 years old. (give or take a few decimal points)


2006-04-07 15:32:33
36.   sanchez101
25. what is that quote from, its driving me crazy?
2006-04-07 15:32:46
37.   Bob Timmermann
Again, screwing up the math, he was 2 1/2.
2006-04-07 15:33:14
38.   Bob Timmermann
2006-04-07 15:34:07
39.   Johnson
22 I would never try to dethrone Bob. I am but an acolyte esoteric. Bob's just had one of those days where he's randomly poked into things I do know a bit about.
2006-04-07 15:35:10
40.   sanchez101
38. thanks, now i can move on with my life ...
2006-04-07 15:35:57
41.   Jon Weisman
Grandma Sue was 24 when Hubbell struck out the five future Hall of Famers in a row at the All-Star Game.
2006-04-07 15:37:31
42.   Johnson
35 Actually, I was E for Gibson's homerun. Which I did watch, from the floor of a friend's living room. First I called the shot (out of pure optimism) and was widely ridiculed. Then I jumped around and screamed like a moron after it happened. Ah, those halcyon days of being E!
2006-04-07 15:38:34
43.   Bob Timmermann
By my math, Grandma Sue was 34 when that happened and I'm sticking to that story even in the face of convincing evidence that I'm horribly wrong!
2006-04-07 15:41:40
44.   Johnson
43 She was 34, she just looked really good for her age. And now that things are getting interesting and the game is approaching, I sadly have to leave. Enjoy the game, guys. Make sure Loney goes 3-4 with a 2 RBI double for me.
2006-04-07 15:45:40
45.   Vishal
[42] you were E? as in 2.71828...?
2006-04-07 15:45:43
46.   blue22
Where's Elbert - AA Jax?
2006-04-07 15:49:45
47.   natepurcell
elbert is at high A vero beach. will probably be promoted to AA by midseason.
2006-04-07 16:01:00
48.   natepurcell
oh god! steiner shaved his beard off!
2006-04-07 16:01:48
49.   blue22
thanks nate.
2006-04-07 16:02:28
50.   Vaudeville Villain
Far be it for me to question the wisdom of Charlie Manuel, but Pat Burrell should not be hitting in front of Ryan Howard.

Who's going to protect David Bell?

Also, there was a pretty hilarious Charlie Manuel quote in the latest Jayson Stark article. Comparing Howard to the greatest hitters:

"He's right there with any of them," says Charlie Manuel, a man whose previous coaching and managing stops came with the Indians and Twins. "He's there with Thome, with [Manny] Ramirez, with all those guys. I'd put him with [Kenny] Lofton, with [Kirby] Puckett. He's there with all of them, man. He's got that kind of potential."

Kenny Lofton? Stop elevating guys like Manny to Lofton's level. Lofton is an all-time great.

Or, Philadelphia fans should be crying themselves to sleep.

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2006-04-07 16:04:08
51.   Bob Timmermann
The lineup got changed and Martinez is playing short and Repko is batting leadoff in place of Furcal.
2006-04-07 16:04:39
52.   underdog
Oh great, now Furcal is scratched from the line-up, too. Sigh. (nothing serious but bruise on his shin or something?)
2006-04-07 16:05:09
53.   Steve
Rafael Furcal is a lazy marshmallow girl.
2006-04-07 16:05:19
54.   underdog

If they win tonight it'll be... well, it'll be a pleasant surprise, let's put it that way. Hope Tomko is at the top of his game.

2006-04-07 16:05:28
55.   Icaros
The lineup got changed and Martinez is playing short and Repko is batting leadoff in place of Furcal.


2006-04-07 16:05:31
56.   D4P
Hmmm...Seems to be a pattern here...Wednesday's lineup was changed too...Repko was initially hitting ahead of Alomar, then they were switched...
2006-04-07 16:07:24
57.   underdog
Break up Jason Repko!
2006-04-07 16:08:04
58.   Bob Timmermann
Forcing me to make my scorebook even messier!
2006-04-07 16:08:39
59.   Marty
How ya gonna keep down on the farm, after they've seen Carl Hubbell.
2006-04-07 16:09:22
60.   Icaros
Did you folks know that Bob keeps a scorebook even for games he watches on TV?
2006-04-07 16:10:04
61.   natepurcell
lol loney would have gotten that....
2006-04-07 16:10:58
62.   underdog
I'm starting to like Repko in the lead-off spot. Aggressive baserunning just paid off quickly. Later in the game he'll probably run out of a rally, but for now.. enjoyed.
2006-04-07 16:11:11
63.   Jacob L
59 Good one, Marty. (Just so you know somebody got it.)
2006-04-07 16:11:11
64.   oldbear
The lineup got changed and Martinez is playing short and Repko is batting leadoff in place of Furcal

LOL...Repko batting leadoff. Whats the difference between Little and Jim Tracy?



2006-04-07 16:11:22
65.   Marty
If Bob starts scoring when he's watching Gameday, that's when we need to start worrying.
2006-04-07 16:12:30
66.   Andrew Shimmin
Is it a halucination, or is the (old) ICQ sound clip playing at odd times for no reason I can tell? On the FSNPT broadcast, I mean. Is that a Philly thing, or a FSNPT thing?
2006-04-07 16:12:40
67.   Marty
63 It's one of my favorite movies.
2006-04-07 16:13:37
68.   Bob Timmermann
When I was a lad, KTTV gave out promotional scorebooks that had pages that matched up to all the televised games.
2006-04-07 16:14:37
69.   Icaros

But he does, and when he is without Gameday access he keeps score anyway, using advanced statistics to accurately predict what is happening during the game.

2006-04-07 16:15:19
70.   natepurcell
ryan howard gives the dodgers a 2-0 lead.
2006-04-07 16:15:24
71.   King of the Hobos
Good job for Loney, first career triple
2006-04-07 16:15:31
72.   Andrew Shimmin
67- I only got it by way of the Hawkeye Pierce's parody of the song. But I did get it. Usually when that happens, it's thanks to the Simpsons.
2006-04-07 16:15:50
73.   Icaros
Loney's Gameday photo could be better.
2006-04-07 16:15:56
74.   underdog
Triple for James Loney. Wow, did I reverse jinx this? Great. Oops, I just reverse reverse jinxed it.

Um.. back to work.

2006-04-07 16:16:07
75.   fawnkyj
If loney does that more, Kent might get a fastball to hit.
2006-04-07 16:17:01
76.   Jacob L
Can I just say how much I've missed these weeknight east coast games, on account of the ability to follow the gamecast and chat on DT while I'm at, well, that place I go during the day that's not home.
2006-04-07 16:17:10
77.   underdog
Still laughing at Repko, Oldbear?
2006-04-07 16:17:59
78.   Steve
I don't understand all this Loney angst. The KFWB guy basically all but said that Nomar is Ramon spelled backwards.
2006-04-07 16:18:23
79.   Icaros
How many runs does it take to make a game Tomko-proof? I hope less than it takes to make a game Odalis-proof.
2006-04-07 16:20:16
80.   oldbear
Utley and Kent might be the only 2nd basemen in the majors that bat clean-up.
2006-04-07 16:21:09
81.   Steve
How many runs does it take to make a game Tomko-proof?

Does gullyin' hurt?

A lot.

2006-04-07 16:21:41
82.   oldbear
Repko is the Luke Walton of the Dodgers.
2006-04-07 16:22:54
83.   underdog
[79.] Definitely less, but at the time that's not saying much.
2006-04-07 16:23:40
84.   trainwreck
Come on now that is being harsh.
2006-04-07 16:24:42
85.   Uncle Miltie
Predict how many home runs Tomko is going to allow. I'll go with 3, and I guarantee that he'll give up at least 2.
2006-04-07 16:24:42
86.   Icaros

At least Walton's dad was really good.

2006-04-07 16:25:27
87.   kegtron
82 I think he's more Sasha Vujacic
2006-04-07 16:30:18
88.   Jacob L
We've reached a point where I'm more likely to get the obscure and semi-obscure movie or literary references than the Laker references. You guys are talking about the Lakers, right?
2006-04-07 16:31:59
89.   Daniel Zappala
55 Very funny, Icaros.

58 Don't you use a pencil to score, Bob?

See, DT is the one site where I will go back and read all the comments.

2006-04-07 16:32:16
90.   Gen3Blue
Now is the time--if you have a hungry team---when they put on more pressure!
2006-04-07 16:32:57
91.   Steve
88 -- If you got Muppet Treasure Island, I'm suitably impressed.
2006-04-07 16:33:21
92.   sanchez101
i agree, he is definitly sasha vujacic
2006-04-07 16:33:32
93.   Andrew Shimmin
Haven't heard another ICQ sound effect, so I'm going to assume that 1)somebody in the booth has a functioning computer in mic range and that 2)whoever has it, didn't know how to turn his sound off. Steiner's claimed he doesn't know how to use one, right? So Lyons is the likely culprit. I wonder who he IMs during the games.
2006-04-07 16:34:11
94.   Bob Timmermann
I hardly ever use pencils for anything. I do crossword puzzles in pen. I do sudoku in pen. I fill out baseball scorebooks in pen.

And what do they all have in common?

They are usually unrecognizable messes when I'm done.

2006-04-07 16:34:55
95.   natepurcell
the phillies catcher is an idiot.
2006-04-07 16:34:59
96.   oldbear
Sasha is probably a better comparison.

Walton actually has had 1 great game in his career that was at least meaningful. Game 1 against the Pistons in 2004.

2006-04-07 16:35:05
97.   underdog
Let's see, all the people who are most frequently debated and even mocked here are responsible for the Dodgers being up 3-0. (Including R Martinez - I'm guilty of being dubious)

So far....

2006-04-07 16:35:10
98.   Steve
Silly Phillies
2006-04-07 16:36:30
99.   Jacob L
Gamecast translation needed - I take it that was a bunt by Tomko wherein the Phils tried, but failed, to get the lead runner?
2006-04-07 16:36:54
100.   Jon Weisman
Wow, Gameday is operating in weird fashion tonight. The box score is a couple of batters ahead of the play-by-play.
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2006-04-07 16:37:00
101.   King of the Hobos
Orenduff had a tough start, allowed 3 hits and 2 runs in the first inning, although managed 2 Ks and only one run was earned

Johnson is likewise struggling, 4 runs and 5 hits in 3 innings, striking out 4. Has allowed 2 homers. Dewitt has doubled

Mario Alvarez gave up a homer in the first, but struck out the side. Godwin, Mitchell, and Perez each have a single good for a run, but Soto, the #3 hitter, bunted

2006-04-07 16:37:14
102.   Steve
Now Repko is responsible for it still being 3-0.
2006-04-07 16:38:02
104.   Bob Timmermann
And just think, wouldn't hire me as a Gameday stringer.

It must have been because I flunked the one question on the exam:

1) 2006 - 96 = ???

2006-04-07 16:38:41
105.   Daniel Zappala
97 You spoke too fast. Repko struck out swinging with no outs and runners on 1st and 3rd. He's supposed to be the scrappy guy that "moves" the runner over or scores them with a groundout.
2006-04-07 16:38:46
106.   Jacob L
103 Whaddaya, tryin to kill a rally here?
2006-04-07 16:39:37
107.   bigcpa
103 The 2003 team didn't avg 8 runs/game did they?
2006-04-07 16:39:41
108.   Uncle Miltie
We better get at least 8-10 runs with Tomko pitching.
2006-04-07 16:41:41
109.   Uncle Miltie
Cruz is a very good number 2 hitter.
2006-04-07 16:42:16
110.   Marty
Yes, Gameday is acting very weird.
2006-04-07 16:42:32
111.   Uncle Miltie
Kent will swing at pitches out of the strike zone to try to pick up some RBIs.
2006-04-07 16:42:43
112.   Jacob L
Well, I'd guess that Kent will see a fastball now.
2006-04-07 16:43:04
113.   Marty
Jon, are the Klimt(sp?) paintings drawing a crowd? I'd really like to get over there and see them.
2006-04-07 16:44:05
114.   Jon Weisman
113 - They're drawing a crowd but not a overwhelming one like Tut. You should come.
2006-04-07 16:44:15
115.   Uncle Miltie
Nice job, team leader.
2006-04-07 16:45:28
116.   natepurcell
you rip on kent way too much Uncle Miltie.
2006-04-07 16:45:40
117.   Marty
Gameday now has 4 runs with Drew getting an RBI and Cruz' picture is still there as the batter.
2006-04-07 16:46:31
118.   sanchez101
loney seems to always have solid at bats
2006-04-07 16:46:32
119.   King of the Hobos
It's safe to say Loney's feet are much larger than mine
2006-04-07 16:46:32
120.   Daniel Zappala
Yahoo is doing fine.
2006-04-07 16:47:06
121.   Gen3Blue
I must admit I hate to see Drew do well against the Phillies, so I guess a walk is a good compromise. The Dodgers better not deal with Boros after all the crap he has pulled. Soon Boros should be a liability as so many clubs won't deal with him. And to hell with the few who do!! Sorry, I coudn't control myself.
2006-04-07 16:47:06
122.   Humma Kavula
114 Cool. I'm very excited -- I'm going on Sunday.

I saw the Klimts (some of them, at least) in Vienna and was shocked by how different these paintings -- art I'd seen 1000 times in photographs and reproductions -- looked when I saw them in person. It's an amazing experience.

2006-04-07 16:47:17
123.   Marty
What's the Yahoo link?
2006-04-07 16:47:31
124.   underdog
105 Naw, I just reverse-reverse-reverse jinxed him. With Repko I always expect good things to happen and bad things to happen. It's fun for the whole family.

Hey, does anyone know if MLB radio is free for a period of time to start the season? I seem to be getting it without paying for it, using my registration/log in from last year. Hopefully I didn't just pay for it without realizing. Give it a try and see if it works for you...

2006-04-07 16:47:57
125.   Bob Timmermann
2006-04-07 16:48:15
126.   Jacob L
117, 110 etal, I'm using the cbs.sportsline game center. It lacks a lot of the bells and whistles like player photos, but it is behaving and updating promptly. BTW, Drew walked to force in a run, but Kent and Loney flew out to end the inning.
2006-04-07 16:48:15
127.   Jon Weisman
Here's CBS Sportsline:

2006-04-07 16:48:42
128.   underdog
Kent's playing in some pain today. Where do we officially stand on that - good thing, shows his toughness vs. dumb and detrimental? Or somewhere in between?
2006-04-07 16:48:56
129.   Marty
124 They re-up you automatically and charge your credit card. Look for it on your next bill.
2006-04-07 16:50:10
130.   Bob Timmermann
Yahoo has a picture of Tomko in a Giants cap.
2006-04-07 16:50:51
131.   Steve
seem to be getting it without paying for it, using my registration/log in from last year.

I seem to remember somebody mentioning an automatic renewal, but I'm not sure.

2006-04-07 16:51:06
132.   Steve
But Marty is.
2006-04-07 16:51:45
133.   trainwreck
Tomko is throwing a lot faster than most pitchers at the beginning of the season.
2006-04-07 16:51:53
134.   Uncle Miltie
Yea, I'm following on yahoo. How far did Loney's fly ball go?

Nate- people praise Kent for his leadership, his quality at bats, for being a "proven 100 RBI guy". The first two are completely fabricated. When you stick a pretty good hitter behind the likes of Barry Bonds, Lance Berkman, Jeff Bagwell, it's inevitable that they're going to drive in a bunch of runs. Kent is a horrible defender and few here seem to fail to recognize this. All I ask for is defense up the middle (C, SS, 2B, and C). Kent has been asked numerous times in his career to move to 1st base, but he has refused to do this because he wants to put up the numbers at 2B, because they boost his hall of fame credentials.

2006-04-07 16:52:21
135.   Bob Timmermann
I concur with Marty.

As for Kent, he could be in some pain, but unlike a pitcher, his pain isn't going to curtail him from doing what he needs to do.

2006-04-07 16:53:57
136.   Marty
125 127 thanks
2006-04-07 16:54:01
137.   Jon Weisman
I can't believe no one in our lineup is batting over .500 anymore.
2006-04-07 16:54:33
138.   underdog
131 129 Argh. Oh well, it's only like 15 bucks right? I'd want to re-up anyway. I just don't like the sneaky way they go about this.

And I don't even get that free SI subscription they're now offering. Bastahds!

2006-04-07 16:55:11
139.   jystakes
I had Daniel Cabrerra starting for my fantasy team today. 1 IP, 7 ER, 7BB 1K. Ouch.
2006-04-07 16:55:30
140.   natepurcell
When you stick a pretty good hitter behind the likes of Barry Bonds, Lance Berkman, Jeff Bagwell, it's inevitable that they're going to drive in a bunch of runs.

so kent being our most consistent bat and driving in 100 runs last year was a fluke? I just think you are giving kent way more flack then he deserves. Sure hes not the best person in the world, or even the best teammate; no one is disputing that. but he is a very good hitter that knows how to drive in runs.

2006-04-07 16:55:42
141.   Bob Timmermann
You could cancel and then resubscribe the next day and see if they are giving out any premium.

But that would be unethical.

2006-04-07 16:55:57
142.   Jon Weisman
Noah Lowry to the DL.
2006-04-07 16:56:11
143.   stevo
Anyone else having trouble getting the dodgers game over the video? I got the first 2 games and the last 2 have been blacked-out eventhough I live in San Diego.
2006-04-07 16:56:50
144.   underdog
135 True. As long as he doesn't fall off his motorcycle we should be okay.
2006-04-07 16:57:12
145.   Jacob L
137 Bill Mueller is now over .500. Nice jinx, there, Jon.
2006-04-07 16:57:38
146.   Jon Weisman
Gagne update from

Jobe said a sensory (medial antibrachial cutaneous) nerve just below the skin, near the elbow, had developed a neuroma, or benign tumor consisting of nerve membranes, that had pinched off the nerve like a rubber band and caused pain with every pitch.

2006-04-07 16:57:53
147.   underdog
142 And what I just told the Giants fan I work with about that: "...and the world's smallest violin is playing just for your Giants." {mutter} Gagne... Lofton... Nomar... etc {/mutter}
2006-04-07 16:58:21
148.   DodgerHobbit
I'm listening to the game on fsn/prime ticket and they have ned flanders on talking about gagne

i never knew ned sounded so much like a wise guy.

2006-04-07 16:58:28
149.   Bob Timmermann
I will add Lowry to my overall transactions post when I get home.
2006-04-07 16:58:55
150.   Uncle Miltie
140- he's a solid hitter, who happens to play a position where people don't expect that kind of run production from. He's a poor defender. Don't you find it ridiculous when people call Kent the greatest hitting second baseman of all star, just because he has the most home runs at the position?
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2006-04-07 17:00:36
151.   Underbruin
Ahh, long time since I've been here.

140 - I know how to drive in runs, too. You hit the ball when somebody's on base, or over the wall at any time. =P

Snark aside, I'd say Kent was a good pick-up last year, when he managed to have solid success despite lacking a proven additional bat to protect him in the lineup... or were pitchers just fearing the possibility of JD Drew coming into the game for the last half of the season? My biggest worry comes from the fact that eventually he's going to lose some production from age - and maybe it's just me, but a lot of the players that play well into their later years, once they DO start declining drop off at a very steep pace.

2006-04-07 17:00:45
152.   DodgerHobbit
watching that is

the fsn commentators are really hard on the ears

2006-04-07 17:01:15
153.   bigcpa
See now Monday & Reuss were raving about Ramon Martinez' Olney. It doesn't look so clever after the IBB and K.
2006-04-07 17:02:27
154.   Bob Timmermann
Jeff Kent is the greatest hitting second baseman of all time (which is what I think Uncle Miltie meant).

What about Rogers Hornsby? What about Nap Lajoie? Neither was known as a good fielder. Second baseman was a power position for quite a while in baseball history.

Not to mention guys like Ryne Sandberg or even Alfonso Soriano (before this year).

Kent is among the best hitting second basemen of all time. And his desire to stay at the position isn't all that unusual.

2006-04-07 17:02:36
155.   natepurcell
honestly... does repko ever hit it anywhere else but through the 3b-SS hole?
2006-04-07 17:02:38
156.   Humma Kavula
Wow. Repko.
2006-04-07 17:03:31
157.   underdog
RBI Repko.

151 Underbruin.... are we related? ;-)

2006-04-07 17:03:32
158.   Steve
It's like every base hit is an extremely enjoyable kick in the behind.
2006-04-07 17:03:42
159.   natepurcell
colletti loves loney.
2006-04-07 17:03:45
160.   sanchez101
I knew it would happen eventually, Ned compares Loney to JT Snow ... eh
2006-04-07 17:04:09
161.   DodgerHobbit
Ned on First basemen

"You don't notice how important a first baseman is until you don't have one."

2006-04-07 17:04:12
162.   Linkmeister
155 You got a problem with that? ;) Long as it gets through...
2006-04-07 17:04:13
163.   Bob Timmermann
Yahoo has a picture of Jose Cruz in a DBacks cap. That's two teams ago.
2006-04-07 17:04:33
164.   Jacob L
Any bullpen action? How much worse does Floyd have to pitch?
2006-04-07 17:04:38
165.   Jon Weisman
157 - Underbruin is the love child of Underdog and Suffering Bruin.
2006-04-07 17:05:09
166.   Marty
155 Look for the "Repko shift" soon!
2006-04-07 17:05:17
167.   Bob Timmermann

The first baseman keeps all the throws from the infielders from ending up in the dugout.

2006-04-07 17:05:53
168.   Linkmeister
On Kent and 2b: I've been managing computer systems for years. If my bosses asked me to go into direct sales, I'd probably object. (They'd be crazy, but that's besides the point.)
2006-04-07 17:06:31
169.   DodgerHobbit

Floyd is gone Santana is in i believe

2006-04-07 17:07:20
170.   Marty
I've been managing people who manage computer systems for years. If my bosses asked me to manage a system now, they would be crazy.
2006-04-07 17:07:25
171.   Steve
Though Floyd has a whiff of paul Abbott about him.
2006-04-07 17:07:46
172.   DodgerHobbit
What is it with Colletti and members only jackets
2006-04-07 17:08:06
173.   Underbruin
150 - Where do you get that Kent's a "poor defender"? His Rate2 has hovered within reasonable range of 100 for basically the last decade. It was 95 in 2004, and 94 in 1998, but other than that he's been nearly league-average or better. Sometimes significantly so, such as 2001 and 2003, when he posted a Range2 of 111 and 106, respectively. Last season it was 98, which while not particularly great doesn't strike me as terrible.
2006-04-07 17:08:16
174.   King of the Hobos
Blake Johnson didn't have a very good A+ debut

3.2 IP, 7 hits, 6 ER, 1 BB, 5 Ks, 2 HRs

2006-04-07 17:08:53
175.   Jon Weisman
The Dodgers have scored 27 runs in their past 25 innings.
2006-04-07 17:08:57
176.   Underbruin
165 - And I have a third arm growing straight out of my forehead. You'd think it'd be a problem, but it's great for scratching that hard-to-reach spot right between the shoulderblades. :)
2006-04-07 17:08:59
177.   natepurcell
blah, dont swing at that pitch drew!
2006-04-07 17:09:55
178.   Uncle Miltie
oops, that was a terrible typo

better hitting 2B than Kent in no particular order:
Jackie Robinson
Joe Morgan
Rogers Hornsby
Roberto Alomar
Rod Carew
Eddie Collins

2006-04-07 17:10:15
179.   underdog
165 Hah. I must've slept through the whole thing. Please don't alert my girlfriend, then I'll be suffering underdog.
2006-04-07 17:11:55
180.   Gen3Blue
161 Ohhh---what a hit on poor Choi.
Please, I don't mean to start this.
And at least Loney,Kent,and Drew have equally declined to brake it with a GS!
I'm afraid of what this gentlemanly sportsmanship will lead to in the final analysis.
2006-04-07 17:12:07
181.   scareduck
165 - I thought Underbruin were blue-and-gold skivvies...
2006-04-07 17:12:45
182.   Steve
178 - and if you don't think so just ask Joe Morgan
2006-04-07 17:13:27
183.   Bob Timmermann

Carew actually played more games at first base than second.

He wasn't a very good second baseman and he was the anti-Mazeroski at turning DPs.

2006-04-07 17:16:26
184.   Underbruin
179 - Which would explain WHY I have that arm growing out of my forehead (incest is not best, kiddos).

178 - How are you defining "better hitting"? I'd agree all of those players are better than Kent, but that doesn't necessarily mean they have more power than he does (going back to your 'most HR' note). Just taking Eddie Collins as an example, though Kent had nowhere near his ability to hit for average or get on base, their OPS for their careers are fairly close, with Kent coming out on top (.860 > .853).

I'm not saying that Kent's a better hitter than Collins, only noting that the definition of what makes the best hitter is sometimes not all that easy to pick out.

2006-04-07 17:17:00
185.   Telemachos
When runners are in scoring position, Kent obviously looks for a particular pitch -- fastball -- early in the count... something he can drive.

I don't have a problem with this at all. His job as the cleanup guy is to get runners home. I don't care if he's doing it out of ego, it's also his job, and something he's been very consistent and successful at for over a decade.

Of all the criticisms of Dodger hitters, grouching about Kent's early-count swinging strikes me as one of the weakest.

2006-04-07 17:17:12
186.   Steve
0 for Pennsylvania has a nice ring to it.
2006-04-07 17:18:01
187.   SCRocks
Double play!


2006-04-07 17:18:30
188.   Uncle Miltie
183- that list was based on hitting only and he has the same career rate2 as Kent anyways.
2006-04-07 17:19:24
189.   Steve
Kent can swing at anything he wants
2006-04-07 17:19:24
190.   King of the Hobos
Much like Johnson, Mario Alvarez did not have a pleasant debut in A- ball.

2.2 IP, 8 hits, 6 runs, 3 BBs, 6 Ks, 1 HR

I believe that comes out to a .778 BABIP, so it last all bad luck...

2006-04-07 17:21:07
191.   DodgerHobbit
178 I'll add Ryne Sandberg to that list
2006-04-07 17:21:16
192.   trainwreck
At least he has a good k/ip ratio.

Steve Lyons suggesting Bonds in prison, you stay classy Los Angeles.

2006-04-07 17:23:41
193.   Uncle Miltie
189- that principal only applies to greats

Bonds, Guerrero, Pujols, Manny, A-rod

The thing is, all of these guys know the strike zone (except Vlad, but he's a freak).

2006-04-07 17:25:13
194.   Uncle Miltie
191- I thought I had him on there. I think Bob already mentioned him in his previous post.
2006-04-07 17:25:18
195.   Underbruin
Well, Kent did take a walk to lead off the 4th inning - it's not like he MUST hit the ball every time he's at bat. It can only seem that way sometimes. :)
2006-04-07 17:25:18
196.   Underbruin
Well, Kent did take a walk to lead off the 4th inning - it's not like he MUST hit the ball every time he's at bat. It can only seem that way sometimes. :)
2006-04-07 17:26:14
197.   natepurcell
thats one!
2006-04-07 17:26:15
198.   King of the Hobos
So Tomko gives up his first of the year. Unless he has a season ending injury, that won't be his last
2006-04-07 17:26:26
199.   Underbruin
... Gah. Double post.

-beats self within an inch of death with giant foam finger-

2006-04-07 17:26:46
200.   Buffalo Jones
How come I'm not comfortable with a five run lead?
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2006-04-07 17:27:41
201.   Underbruin
All those who thought Tomko could go a full 3 innings without giving up a run, raise your hands. (I'm not included in that group, so I can't be too upset)
2006-04-07 17:27:51
202.   Bob Timmermann
That 5-run lead did a lot of good Wednesday night.
2006-04-07 17:27:54
203.   Buffalo Jones
...four run lead...
2006-04-07 17:28:17
204.   Underbruin
200 What five-run lead? There's no five-run lead here. Move along people, nothing to see...
2006-04-07 17:28:34
205.   scareduck
201 - not I.
2006-04-07 17:30:17
206.   scareduck
Sal Fasano? Seriously? Wasn't he the Angels bullpen catcher, like, a year or two ago?
2006-04-07 17:30:45
207.   King of the Hobos
There's the second. Will a third occur soon?
2006-04-07 17:30:51
208.   natepurcell
thats two! to the stupid catcher noneless.
2006-04-07 17:31:19
209.   Underbruin
2006-04-07 17:32:58
210.   A Slo
Wow, and Sal Fasano's photo on MLB Gameday definitely looks like that of a man who does unspeakable things to people below the age of 12.
2006-04-07 17:33:30
211.   Uncle Miltie
Don't criticize Tomko, he's a workhorse!

Anyone know why Seo isn't our #4 starter?

2006-04-07 17:33:33
212.   Steve
I thought it was never going to be possible to top the scraptitude of the previous two years' starting rotations, but Mr. Ned appears to have done it.
2006-04-07 17:33:46
213.   Humma Kavula
out. take him out.
2006-04-07 17:34:01
214.   Bob Timmermann
Sal Fasano had one AB for the 2002 Angels.

I hope he got a nice bonus check that year.

2006-04-07 17:34:38
215.   King of the Hobos
Well, our minor league starters are 0-3 so far. Orenduff:

3.2 IP, 10 hits, 7 runs (6 earned), 1 BB, 6 K, 1HR

Alvarez, Johnson, and Orenduff combined for 17 Ks in 10 IP. They also gave up 19 runs

2006-04-07 17:34:55
216.   Buffalo Jones
Oh that's why I wasn't comfortable. This is going to be a stressful season.

I am new to Dodger Thoughts and don't know how to put the number of the post I am referring to in my message. Sorry.

2006-04-07 17:35:49
217.   Underbruin
215 - "Alvarez, Johnson, and Orenduff combined for 17 Ks in 10 IP. They also gave up 19 runs "

I like one of those two sentences. The other one, not so much.

2006-04-07 17:36:02
218.   King of the Hobos
210 That's not the fault of Gameday, he really looks like that
2006-04-07 17:36:14
219.   Humma Kavula
put brackets around your post [like this]
2006-04-07 17:36:16
220.   bigcpa
216 Put a [ and a ] around the number.
2006-04-07 17:36:29
221.   Underbruin
216 - Type [ number of post ] without the spaces.
2006-04-07 17:36:50
222.   scareduck
211 - more importantly, why Chad Billingsley isn't the F in a Los Angeles uniform?
2006-04-07 17:37:02
223.   Humma Kavula
Sorry that could have been clearer.

216 - put brackets around the number of the post you're referring to, [like this].

2006-04-07 17:37:32
224.   Buffalo Jones
219 220 221 Thanks
2006-04-07 17:37:47
225.   Underbruin
Jeez, I'm just glad I'm not an Orioles fan right now - getting destructimated by the BoSox. 10-0 after 4. The birds have 2 hits.
2006-04-07 17:38:39
226.   Humma Kavula
Nice, Lucille.
2006-04-07 17:39:45
227.   bigcpa
The Red Sox are faring quite well despite the amputation of their Heart & Soul.

But how come Wily Mo has only 1 AB? The O's have a LHP in there too.

2006-04-07 17:39:51
228.   Uncle Miltie
225- it's because they don't have Sal Fasano anymore
2006-04-07 17:40:41
229.   underdog
ah hah, your two home run prediction is right on so far. Let's hope it stays that way. Burrell always eats up the Dodgers.
2006-04-07 17:40:59
230.   Buffalo Jones
I think I may just not watch anymore of this game and check the score later tonight. Life's too short.
2006-04-07 17:40:59
231.   Humma Kavula
[227] I thought Varitek was their heart and soul.
2006-04-07 17:41:02
232.   D4P
Don't criticize Tomko, he's a workhorse!

And an innings-eater!

Cruz Jr. seems to be doing quite well in Choi's #2 spot ahead of Drew and Kent.

2006-04-07 17:41:27
233.   natepurcell

my over/under was set at 2.

2006-04-07 17:41:30
234.   underdog
I miss Gavin Floyd a.k.a. "the barber."
2006-04-07 17:42:20
235.   Underbruin
225 - Of course, how could I have missed that?

On another note, that was a very bad inning to go 3-up, 3-down, as I don't like Tomko's chances against the 3-4-5 now that he has remembered he is Brett Tomko.

2006-04-07 17:43:47
236.   Humma Kavula
The Raymonds have tied it up against Toronto.
2006-04-07 17:43:50
237.   bigcpa
231 I meant unfrozen caveman CF. He was supposed to be a 5-game swing from Boston to NY. Uh huh.
2006-04-07 17:44:46
238.   Humma Kavula
237 Oh, right, I forgot, Captain Idiot. Unless that was Millar. I kept mixing it all up.
2006-04-07 17:48:58
239.   Humma Kavula
So is Tomko done now?
2006-04-07 17:49:22
240.   bigcpa
Millar was Capn. Cowboy Up and Schilling backstabber. Boston is still +300 to win the East. Anyone, anyone?
2006-04-07 17:49:41
241.   underdog
235 I guess he forgot. 3 up and 3 down.
2006-04-07 17:50:29
242.   underdog
Going to the 6th after P. Burrell struck out looking. Nicely done Tomko.
2006-04-07 17:50:31
243.   scareduck
240 - does anyone watching on TV see a fork sticking out of Tomko somewhere?
2006-04-07 17:50:45
244.   Humma Kavula
Ken will be happy to know that the Tigers have taken a 2-1 lead over Texas.
2006-04-07 17:52:35
245.   Underbruin
241 - Yeah, he's going to have to work on that selective memory thing. Maybe somebody can whack him on the head and he'll forget permanently. We'll send over Bob to whisper to him that he is Sandy Koufax, and then remind him over and over again of his career stats and his greatest moments as a Dodger, with full recounts of the games. =P
2006-04-07 17:54:18
246.   Humma Kavula
245 "Wow, Bob, sounds like I was really something. Wait... doesn't that make me, like, 70 years old?"
2006-04-07 17:55:24
247.   Underbruin
246 - Umm, we'll have Bob throw something in there about time travel and paradoxes. I'm sure he'll do fine. "Now listen Marty..."
2006-04-07 17:55:59
248.   brandesh
Hi, I don't post here much but I want to know something... Do I have to like Repko if he continues to knock the crap out of the ball? He just got robbed. I almost felt bad for him.
2006-04-07 17:56:30
249.   natepurcell
Hu has two walks in two games.
2006-04-07 17:56:59
250.   Gen3Blue
Welcome Buffalo

In a way I hate to bring this up, but I feel it may be relevant. It is known as holding on syndrome. It actually makes the most sense in hockey or soccer where one must play offence and defense at the same time. At anyrate, in these sports there is a well known phenomena of a team getting ahead and then failing to have any further offense while it tries to hold onto the lead. I swear I have seen this also in baseball many times.
If a team gets a generous or even adequate lead, they often fail to generate further offense. This happens even though
a) they are facing the same pitcher they faced when he was fresh several innings ago.
b) they are facing a middle reliever who logically should not be as good as a teams starter.
c) they appear to have a much better situation but blow it anyway.

This is one of the wonders of sports and if you observe carefully you will find that it is pervasive. I never knew it so influenced your American sport of baseball but it does.
Most people feel it is a blessing for it is one of the things that keep competition almost always closer than one would think.
This makes for better games and competition in all sports.

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2006-04-07 17:57:48
251.   D4P
This is a bit random, but I was thinking about how "drawing a walk" (or being "patient") is often thought of as an offensive skill and how players who walk a lot are thought of more highly in certain circles than players who don't walk a lot (other things being equal).

The problem with this mindset that I see is that it seems to assume implicitly that all hitters are thrown the same ratio of balls to strikes. But has this assumption ever been examined? What if, for example, some players are thrown mostly pitches in the strike zone, while other players are thrown mostly pitches out of the strike zone? Should we really hold it against the first group of players that they don't draw many walks?

2006-04-07 17:58:03
252.   Uncle Miltie
Drew walks. How badly is Drew being booed in Philadelphia?
2006-04-07 17:58:52
253.   Underbruin
248 - Nah, just go hang out with Steve for a few minutes. I'm sure he'll find a way to prevent that from ever happening.
2006-04-07 17:58:53
254.   FirstMohican
249 - Hu?
2006-04-07 17:59:37
255.   Uncle Miltie
251- well, Manny Ramirez draws walks based on fear from the pitchers. Luis Castillo draws walks because he has a great eye at the plate.
2006-04-07 18:00:11
256.   FirstMohican
82 - That hurts.
2006-04-07 18:01:01
257.   Gen3Blue
Hu's on second,

Nate, where is Hu playing, with Jacksonville? I hear he is an incredable fielder.

2006-04-07 18:02:29
258.   D4P
Those are unsubstantiated observations. Why not actually analyze where pitches are thrown and what hitters do with them?
2006-04-07 18:03:18
259.   natepurcell
fasano has that 70s porn 'stache going on.
2006-04-07 18:03:48
260.   kegtron
Sal Fasano and Philly are a match made in heaven.
2006-04-07 18:04:06
261.   Underbruin
251 - That's actually a rather interesting question, but at the same time you can go back and argue it once again speaks to the 'walks and home-runs' concept: I would imagine the players most likely to see the fewest strikes and most balls are the players most likely to hit for power - the thought process being that, in the case of a big hitter like a Barry Bonds, and walk is NOT as good as a hit because his hits are so likely to generate extra runs.

Obviously that conclusion ignores the fact that Bonds has a great eye for the ball and a great ability to hit for average as well, but I think the concept still holds up for the most part - players more likely to be valued by sabermetricians for getting lots of walks are either skilled at working counts and avoiding bad pitches, or they see so many balls because they can hit for power, which means they have high SLG value anyway.

An exception to this case (or proof that it doesn't work, your call) might be a Hee-Seop Choi, who clearly has excellent power, but seems to invite pitchers to challenge him because of a perceived 'hole' in his swing. However, he still has a high walk rate - perhaps not only does he have a good eye, but pitchers aren't quite as willing to actually attack him as the conventional thinkers might like to think? (Note: this is not intended to start a Choi discussion, only using him as a good example of where the analysis might both be applicable, and where it might break down)

2006-04-07 18:04:36
262.   natepurcell
Nate, where is Hu playing, with Jacksonville? I hear he is an incredable fielder.

yep hes at jax. and yea, hes suppose to be amazing with the glove. He also can hit too. he has hit for high average, shown gap power and doesnt K. He just needs to work on the walks.

2006-04-07 18:06:07
263.   Underbruin
257 - "Hu's on first!"

-quick jump, cut to-

"So I throw the ball to Hu?"


"So I throw the ball to Naturally?"

"No you don't, you throw the ball to Hu!"

2006-04-07 18:06:15
264.   A Slo
Since Ryan Howard is on my fantasy team, I don't like that he is batting 6th in their lineup.
2006-04-07 18:08:23
265.   Gen3Blue
Interesting --I hear he is 5'8" and 150 without any frame room to grow, but I'm pulling for him cause that was me at 20.
2006-04-07 18:08:31
266.   underdog
Mueller with a stand-up double, second of the night.
2006-04-07 18:10:14
267.   natepurcell
Hu is really small but he packs a punch with his bat.
2006-04-07 18:12:23
268.   Gen3Blue
No---Whats on second!
2006-04-07 18:15:05
269.   natepurcell
prince fielder up with the bases loaded against russ ortiz!
2006-04-07 18:15:52
270.   Uncle Miltie
269- I smell a bases loaded walk or a grand slam
2006-04-07 18:17:21
271.   Gen3Blue
Here we Kou!
2006-04-07 18:17:25
272.   natepurcell
and prince fielder is bengii molina slow.
2006-04-07 18:18:25
273.   scareduck
Fielder GIDPs.
2006-04-07 18:19:15
274.   Gen3Blue
I wouldn't mind being Kou dependent.
2006-04-07 18:19:48
275.   Uncle Miltie
272- I remember reading that Fielder actually has decent speed for a big man. I thought he stole around 15 bases one year in the minors.
2006-04-07 18:20:10
276.   natepurcell
that inning was kuotastic!
2006-04-07 18:20:15
277.   Gen3Blue
But where did the offense go.
2006-04-07 18:20:23
278.   Andrew Shimmin
Steiner declares Yhency a much better pitcher when he's ahead in the count 0-2. I'm pretty sure he isn't kidding.
2006-04-07 18:21:52
279.   bigcpa
What does the gun show for KKKuo?
2006-04-07 18:23:00
280.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Tomko's Game Score: 47.
2006-04-07 18:23:33
281.   DaveP
279 - 90 - 94mph
2006-04-07 18:23:42
282.   Gen3Blue
The first pitch to repko I thouhgt was high and the announcer called it low!
2006-04-07 18:23:47
283.   KAYVMON
"proclivity" That word was on the GRE test I took today. I dont want to be PEDANTIC and define it.
2006-04-07 18:24:33
284.   bigcpa
I love Kuo in there for Abreu/Utley/Howard. If Gagne was around, Grady would've been tempted to have Baez in his contractual 8th inning slot.
2006-04-07 18:25:03
285.   Andrew Shimmin
That's the last straw. Derek Lowe thinks only white people can be Americans, and now Kuo joined the Klan?! I'm boycotting, forthwith.
2006-04-07 18:25:39
286.   natepurcell
repko with another solid AB.
2006-04-07 18:25:52
287.   Uncle Miltie
Wow, great at bat by Repko. He's been really good in the leadoff spot today.
2006-04-07 18:29:05
288.   bigcpa
285 I thought about naming him KKKKuo but it looked a bit cumbersome. KKuo sounds like a stutter. KKKuo looks like he struck out the side.
2006-04-07 18:29:12
289.   underdog
Argh, Rick Monday drives me crazy. "Ground ball hit to third... [returns to pointless anecdote] You know Jerry Reuss is a pitcher because of the way he... blah blah [finish anecdote]. And the 2-1 pitch..."

Was it an out? Foul? I finally deduced it'd been hit foul as the batter was still up and the crowd didn't react. Sheesh.

2006-04-07 18:29:51
290.   underdog
288 The last choice also sounds like he should be wearing a white hood on his head. Kind of scares me.
2006-04-07 18:33:19
291.   Sam DC
Hey Humma, see you at the game. I'll be wearing blue and if you see a five-year old in a Dodgers' cap with ice cream covering every square inch of his face, that's definitely us.

Repko winning over the crowd, it seems.

2006-04-07 18:33:33
292.   DaveP
Kuo!! 95mph to blow away Abreu
2006-04-07 18:33:37
293.   trainwreck
See another great inning for Kuo. Kuo for closer! I am starting the campaign.
2006-04-07 18:33:46
294.   natepurcell
kuo seriously has a golden arm.
2006-04-07 18:34:07
295.   underdog
Kuo's looking scary good tonight.
2006-04-07 18:34:36
296.   Uncle Miltie
294- but he and Osoria lost us the game on opening day...
2006-04-07 18:35:24
297.   sanchez101
288. Last season someone proposed Kuofax
2006-04-07 18:36:59
298.   bigcpa
Well we need a nickname quick- a star is born 3/7/06.
2006-04-07 18:37:07
299.   underdog
4 out of 5 batters have been K'd by K.
2006-04-07 18:37:44
300.   underdog
Status Kuo? Naw, too esoteric.
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2006-04-07 18:38:05
301.   Uncle Miltie
I like Kuofax
2006-04-07 18:38:43
302.   natepurcell
little earning DT brownie points for letting kuo face burrell there instead of bringing in brazoban to give up the homerun.
2006-04-07 18:39:44
303.   scareduck
Every team needs a good Kuoser.
2006-04-07 18:39:51
304.   Fearing Blue
#215: I strongly dislike K/IP because of examples like that. If you have two pitchers with the same strikeout ability, the one who allows more baserunners will get the higher K/IP. It just feels wrong to me, though nobody really reports K/PA, which would be a better metric.

Steiner and Ned talking about how strong our bench was earlier in the game made my stomach turn. Ramon Martinez? Sandy Alomar Jr.? Jason Repko? Seriously?

2006-04-07 18:41:03
305.   Fern
I fear that Grady's infatuation with Kuo will lead to some gross overuse.
2006-04-07 18:41:23
306.   Bob Timmermann
I would go for Kuofax except his last name should be pronounced "Go" (according to all the Chinese speakers I've asked as well as the WBC media guide).

I am ready to fight a futile losing battle over this.

2006-04-07 18:41:28
307.   Andrew Shimmin
Kuofax is a little too close to blasphemy for my tastes. Until he gets his first no-hitter, at least.
2006-04-07 18:43:23
308.   bigcpa
Ok I'm going with KKKKuo. The 4th K is a subtle reference to his multi-inning usage pattern.
2006-04-07 18:43:34
309.   Uncle Miltie
306- Vin Scully pronounced it Kwo
307- he pitched a (2 inning) no hitter today!
2006-04-07 18:43:44
310.   overkill94
Looks like Kent's arm is still bothering him, his swing looks a bit stiff.
2006-04-07 18:44:48
311.   trainwreck
Where in Taiwan is Kuo from?
2006-04-07 18:46:21
312.   Bob Timmermann
Kuo was born in Tainan City, Taiwan.
2006-04-07 18:47:13
313.   Bob Timmermann
Interestingly, if you type "Kuo" in the search box for Baseball-Reference, you are asked to choose between Hong-Chih Kuo or Sandy Koufax.
2006-04-07 18:47:31
314.   Sam DC
Brandon Backe has shut down the Nationals tonight -- 3 hits through six innings. Problematic for the Nationals in that, if you don't take a game from Backe, you end up trying to salvage the series against Oswalt and Pettite. But at least you get to rely on Ryan Drese to get it done!
2006-04-07 18:47:54
315.   overkill94
That was definitely a trap.
2006-04-07 18:48:40
316.   Uncle Miltie
Grits should bring in Brazoban to face Howard
2006-04-07 18:48:52
317.   trainwreck
I believe that is the south of Taiwan. I took Taiwanese cinema last quarter. I know have an affection for Taiwan.
2006-04-07 18:49:34
318.   Bob Timmermann
From the WBC media guide:
Kuo, Hong-Chih Go Hong Jee

2006-04-07 18:50:09
319.   natepurcell
nice splitter t-rex.
2006-04-07 18:50:51
320.   Uncle Miltie
2006-04-07 18:51:07
321.   underdog
"Go" makes it easier to come up with a nickname. Go-Go. GoGo Butter. Um...
2006-04-07 18:51:15
322.   Steve
Overuse would be an improvement on underuse.

These guys swing at everything that moves.

2006-04-07 18:51:24
323.   overkill94
Baez is looking fiiiilthy. I think he's going to prove to be a fine closer, I don't care what you naysayers say.
2006-04-07 18:51:51
324.   natepurcell
wow nice splitter x2
2006-04-07 18:51:56
325.   Bob Timmermann
2006-04-07 18:52:29
326.   overkill94
Damn, I jinxed him
2006-04-07 18:52:48
327.   trainwreck
K Kuota
2006-04-07 18:52:49
328.   Uncle Miltie
Kuo is 6' 237! Wow
2006-04-07 18:53:07
329.   underdog
323 I'm a yay-sayer and agree. Even if he did just give up a double. (Repko almost threw him out.)

Hey, wasn't S Victorino a one-time Dodger farmhand? "Siddown, meat!" as Mike Krukow likes to say on Giants broadcasts.

2006-04-07 18:53:34
330.   regfairfield
If he makes some big jumps in his perphrials, I'll believe you.
2006-04-07 18:53:46
331.   underdog
Game over.
2006-04-07 18:53:55
332.   scareduck
Here's a map with Tainan on it:

2006-04-07 18:54:37
333.   underdog
Kuo and Baez, 6 K's in 3 innings.
2006-04-07 18:54:49
334.   natepurcell
gaemez over. yay now onto the laker game.
2006-04-07 18:54:50
335.   bigcpa
10K, 1bb for the staff. A little QS for LAIM Tomko. Wish we had a do-over for Weds nite. 3-1 would sound mighty fine right now.
2006-04-07 18:55:57
336.   natepurcell
i personally hope we dont see kuo for the rest of the series. i dont want his arm to fall off just yet.
2006-04-07 18:56:15
337.   regfairfield
I'm telling you, it's all Sandy Alomar's fault.
2006-04-07 18:56:39
338.   trainwreck
How about just Killa Kuo like Killa Cam haha.
2006-04-07 18:58:01
339.   trainwreck
Darren Oliver is still in the MLB, oh my god!
2006-04-07 18:59:25
340.   natepurcell
Navarro has looked pretty veteranish behind the plate. hes working well with the pitchers and seems to be taking charge back there.

i really hope colletti can get good value for one of young catchers.

2006-04-07 18:59:39
341.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Dig that 10-1 K-BB ratio!
2006-04-07 19:00:14
342.   regfairfield
In other small sample size news Chris Shelton is the best player in baseball. Currently hitting .733 with five home runs and a 2.630 OPS.
2006-04-07 19:03:09
343.   Gen3Blue
Oh God--- Kevin Kennedy singing the praises of Repko. I was so glad Kennedy didn't get to GM or Manage the Dodgers--which almost happened. For some reason I think KK came near my home of Pittsfield Ma. Does anyone know why I feel this. It scares me as much as KKK.
2006-04-07 19:04:21
344.   bigcpa
This is now a record number of Klan references in a single DT thread.
2006-04-07 19:04:37
345.   natepurcell
what is kennedy saying?

repko does deserve praise. hes been playing really well.

2006-04-07 19:05:44
346.   trainwreck
I hope Repko continues to be good. Then we can put him in a package with Izturis and Navarro for a starter :).
2006-04-07 19:06:07
347.   natepurcell
our positional prospects have had good days at the plate today. hu, kemp, laroche and dewitt all have 2 hits.
2006-04-07 19:10:27
348.   Andrew Shimmin
Steiner minus the beard looks a little like Jeff Greenfield, plus fifty pounds.
2006-04-07 19:11:54
349.   trainwreck
I did not even recognize Chad Bradford without his moustache.
2006-04-07 19:12:05
350.   natepurcell
steiner needs the beard back. his neck fat is too unappealing for television.
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2006-04-07 19:12:14
351.   Andrew Shimmin
346- No more starters till you've eaten all the ones on your plate already!
2006-04-07 19:13:46
352.   trainwreck
Perez and Tomko are like the brussels sprouts I can never finish.
2006-04-07 19:24:29
353.   Bob Timmermann
I don't even start with Brussels sprouts. They are Satan's vegetables.
2006-04-07 19:26:43
354.   natepurcell
why did the brewers trade for koskie when they could have the best young infield in the bigs with hall-hardy-weeks-fielder???
2006-04-07 19:28:52
355.   Uncle Miltie
Antonio Perez just walked against King Felix
2006-04-07 19:30:55
356.   trainwreck
I was wondering that myself. Bill Hall is a very underrated player.
2006-04-07 19:31:13
357.   regfairfield
Koskie plays really good defense, and he can hit.

They're probably look for Hall to get 300-400 at bats backing up Weeks, Hardy, and Koskie. I'm pretty sure PrOPS had him as one of the luckier players in baseball.

2006-04-07 19:34:48
358.   trainwreck
Wes Helms was solid for them last year. I thought Nomar was a good fit in Milwaukee at third.
2006-04-07 19:35:50
359.   Uncle Miltie
How could they pass up on Koskie for $2 million a year. They stole him from Toronto.
2006-04-07 19:37:28
360.   natepurcell
did toronto eat some of koskies contract?
2006-04-07 19:37:50
361.   trainwreck
Just have to hope that his year in Toronto was an aberration.
2006-04-07 19:38:53
362.   Uncle Miltie
360- yea, almost all of it.
2006-04-07 19:40:28
363.   regfairfield
360 Yeah, Toronto is eating 3.25 million this year and 3.75 million in 2007.
2006-04-07 19:43:16
364.   King of the Hobos
Not just did Toronto pay for a large part of Koskie's contract, all it took to get him was a worthless roster filling reliever

Cole Bruce, Chris Westervelt, Xavier Paul, and Jamie Hoffmann each hit a homer in the 8th for Vero, scoring 8 runs. They lost 9-8 though

2006-04-07 19:46:40
365.   Gen3Blue
Boy -- if Xavier and Jamie ever break out,have we got an outfield--Athletic.
but I fantasize--Athletes can rarely hit.
2006-04-07 19:51:58
366.   Marty
Where's the love for brussels sprouts? They may be my favorite green vegetable. Throw a bunch of minced garlic on them and it's heaven.
2006-04-07 19:53:22
367.   Bob Timmermann
Don't be in the same room with me after I eat Brussels sprouts unless you have some biohazard gear.
2006-04-07 19:54:50
368.   trainwreck
I have never had them with garlic, but they are disgusting. I have not eaten them in years, but when I was younger I had to take a swig of milk while I was chewing just so I would not have to taste them as much.
2006-04-07 19:56:15
369.   King of the Hobos
Tomko's main competition for the HR championship is also pitching tonight. Milton hasn't allowed a run, much less a home run, through the first 5 innings, although he's pitching to the Pirates. RA Dickey would join the competition, but he was already sent to the minors after his performance yesterday
2006-04-07 19:57:40
370.   King of the Hobos
Guzman up with the bases loaded in Vegas
2006-04-07 19:59:46
371.   Marty
Some Texas pitcher yesterday turned in a Miltonian performance. 6(!) home runs.
2006-04-07 19:59:54
372.   King of the Hobos
First pitch...flies into a sacrifice double play. Aybar was thrown out at 3rd
2006-04-07 20:00:42
373.   King of the Hobos
371 That would the knuckleballer Dickey. He's long gone though after last nights fireworks show
2006-04-07 20:01:34
374.   King of the Hobos
Milton couldn't last forever, Casey took him deep. One behind Tomko, five behind Dickey
2006-04-07 20:02:03
375.   Marty
Another good way to cook Brussels sprouts is steam/boil them, whichever, then finish them off in a saute pan with butter, bacon and garlic. Mmmm....
2006-04-07 20:05:51
376.   natepurcell
ha, AP with the error.
2006-04-07 20:06:09
377.   King of the Hobos
My curiousity got the better of me and I tried brussel sprouts soda (Jones Soda). Big mistake, they taste no bettr in soda form than they do in their normal form
2006-04-07 20:08:33
378.   natepurcell
i honestly dont remember what brussel sprouts taste like. its been that long since ive had them.

and i think there probably a reason why its been that long. (a big yucky, gross reason)

2006-04-07 20:12:14
379.   Jon Weisman
I've been relaying the Brussel sprouts play by play to my wife. She said to say she likes them, and was very intrigued by 375.
2006-04-07 20:15:16
380.   Uncle Miltie
376- ?
2006-04-07 20:16:22
381.   Steve
Two innings of Rex Hudler is enough, but I really like how Escobar is throwing the ball.
2006-04-07 20:16:23
382.   Uncle Miltie
Kotsay hit an RBI double to score Kendall off King Felix

1-0 A's

2006-04-07 20:17:05
383.   trainwreck
Antonio Perez error at ss.
2006-04-07 20:17:53
384.   natepurcell

antonio perez made an error on a relatively easy backhand play but blanton struck out the next batter to end the inning so it the error didnt make a difference.

2006-04-07 20:25:35
385.   Daniel Zappala
It's probably been 25 years since I had brussel sprouts, but I can still imagine what they taste like. Hands down my least favorite vegetable.

Incidentally, I had to google "medial antibrachial cutaneous nerve" and of course Wikipedia has an entry:

If you have the stomach for it, click the Duke link at the end of the article for actual pictures of a surgery on this nerve.

Still don't think I'd like to have it taken out. Doesn't sound like it's an extra thing like an appendix. Basically gives you feeling on your skin from your forearm down to your wrist.

2006-04-07 20:25:39
386.   Steve
Or are the two Cota starts, the lack of Craig Wilson, the bad bullpen, Tracy's in-game McClendon impressions, and the typical Pirate malaise that seems to surround these first three games simply harbingers of the doom to come?

[cackle, cackle]

2006-04-07 20:27:05
387.   Sam DC
What I like about 375 is the idea that you need both bacon and butter to get the dish right. Now, if you just swap out the brussel sprout for some chorizo and onions . . .

I actually quite like brussel sprouts.

2006-04-07 20:28:44
388.   D4P
Speaking of vegetables: I didn't realize that food items like french fries and mac n' cheese were considered vegetables until I moved to the South.
2006-04-07 20:29:57
389.   trainwreck
2006-04-07 20:30:08
390.   trainwreck

Gee I wonder why America is so fat.

2006-04-07 20:30:09
391.   Uncle Miltie
The official scorer didn't give Perez an error. I didn't see because I've been flipping channels between the Lakers, Warriors, A's, and Giants (in a rain delay)
2006-04-07 20:30:14
392.   Marty
Of course, there's an argument to be had that you could cook a baseball in butter, bacon and garlic and it would taste good. But to like brussels sprouts you have to like that intense cabbage taste. Sort of like a cabbage on steroids.
2006-04-07 20:30:44
393.   Uncle Miltie
388- haha
2006-04-07 20:30:58
394.   Daniel Zappala
Caught just the last inning of the game tonight, and Baez looked great the first two batters. Not so good on the double. I think he'll be OK -- no Gagne, but good enough to finish most games.

Also noticed that Nomar's teeth are incredibly white.

Please wish my son good luck on his Babe Ruth tryouts tomorrow. He's a small kid, but has a lot of heart. Think Repko as a 10-year-old.

2006-04-07 20:31:36
395.   trainwreck
You might as well fry the thing if it is cooked in butter and bacon.
2006-04-07 20:35:24
396.   natepurcell
the boys in vegas are hitting.

ethiers 3-3 with a 2b, guzmans 2-2 with a 2b.

martin is 0-8 on the season.

2006-04-07 20:35:58
397.   Sam DC
Other than the omission of the crucial heavy cream/melted cheese component, that's pretty much my theory of cooking in a nutshell. Oh, and lots of salt.
2006-04-07 20:37:13
398.   trainwreck
Perez has stopped doing the Joe Morgan elbow flap almost completely. I seriously think it is messing with his timing. I noticed he did it less in the second half last year.
2006-04-07 20:38:03
399.   Sam DC
Hey Marty -- you coming out this way pretty soon, no?
2006-04-07 20:38:09
400.   natepurcell
i really like steamed cauliflower with melted cheddar cheese.

im a big fan of asparagus cooked in butter and garlic sauce. zuccinni's good too.

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2006-04-07 20:39:06
401.   natepurcell
are they going to get the giants/braves game in tongiht? i was hoping to see the davies/cain matchup.
2006-04-07 20:40:21
402.   trainwreck
I like zucchini a lot. I eat raw broccoli along with my other vegetables.
2006-04-07 20:41:53
403.   BruceR
Once prepared as in 375, it is served by throwing away the B. sprouts (started to abbreviate both words -- oops) and serve the remainder.
2006-04-07 20:41:55
404.   Andrew Shimmin
397- Earlier Bob was out esotericerized, now Marty's been out gourmanded. What next?
2006-04-07 20:42:24
405.   King of the Hobos
Eric Hull has taken over for Houlton, have we already concluded that he can't be a starter? Just because he's short?

Houlton didn't have a bad game, 4 IP, 3 hits, 2 ER, 2 BBs, 5 Ks, 1 HR

2006-04-07 20:44:05
406.   capdodger
The problem with brussel sprouts is that it's really hard not to over cook them, and once they're over done they're awful. That's why the steaming method, followed by a fast, searing hot saute works so well.
2006-04-07 20:45:05
407.   trainwreck
Milton Bradley missed hitting third base while running has to go back and ends up in a rundown and getting tagged out... brilliant!
2006-04-07 20:45:25
408.   capdodger
400 - Just about anything cooked in butter and garlic will taste good.
2006-04-07 20:45:42
409.   trainwreck
*and has to...
2006-04-07 20:45:46
410.   natepurcell
did bradley have another baserunning blunder?
2006-04-07 20:46:37
411.   Bob Timmermann
Asparagus is the King of the Vegetables.

Cauliflower is the Count of Cruciferous Vegetables.

Broccoli is the Prince of Wales of Vegetables.

2006-04-07 20:47:40
412.   Daniel Zappala
I will take fresh-picked corn on the cob any day.
2006-04-07 20:49:17
413.   trainwreck
Yeah, and it was the dumbest I have seen. How do you miss a base while running with no worries about being caught?
2006-04-07 20:49:37
414.   capdodger
When did MLB.TV start cutting into commercial breaks?
2006-04-07 20:49:50
415.   King of the Hobos
David Ross has hit his first homer of 2006, against his former manager and former team. The other member of the Reds' starting battery only managed to give up one homer in 7 IP
2006-04-07 20:55:11
416.   King of the Hobos
Mike Edwards went 1-2 with a homer and 3 BBs today for Indianapolis. Looks like he's on his way back to Tracy
2006-04-07 20:56:54
417.   Marty
399 Yep. I'll be out there from 4/23 - 4/27. The conference I'm going to takes care of most lunches and has one big dinner and one cocktail party. The dinner will probably be at a nice place. The last time I was out there in 2000 the host had a dinner on a boat cruising the Potomac. That was really nice. A Wshington Post guy is going to take me to lunch one day too. I may get to see a good restaurant then.
2006-04-07 20:58:19
418.   trainwreck
Is it Tony Kornheiser or Michael Wilbon?
2006-04-07 21:02:37
419.   natepurcell
billingsley and cain have eerily similar deliveries.
2006-04-07 21:08:50
420.   Marty
418 Ha! I'm on the IT side. Guys like Kornheiser and Wilbon are my worst enemy as far as supporting them with their PCs.
2006-04-07 21:13:17
421.   trainwreck
I clearly no nothing about IT stuff, but do they need to fly someone out from Los Angeles to fix their computers? hahaha
2006-04-07 21:15:18
422.   regfairfield
The A's are dangerously close to giving Marco Scutaro way too much play time.
2006-04-07 21:17:05
423.   natepurcell
ethier is 4-4 with 2 doubles.
2006-04-07 21:17:57
424.   Marty
421 No, I was just projecting my L.A. problems onto Washington :)
2006-04-07 21:18:00
425.   oldbear
This Mateo guy from the Mariners may be close to setting a record for most walks given up by a relief pitcher.

He gave up 6bb's in 2.2 ip.

Blanton pitching great tonite but the M's lineup isnt very good.

I wonder if Macha will let him go for the shut out.. 7ip 2H 0BB so far.

2006-04-07 21:20:43
426.   Uncle Miltie
Bradley did have a bad baserunning mistake earlier in the game, but he's walked 3 times and he stole a base. We definitely have no need for a player like that on the Dodgers, especially a center fielder. Bradley has 6 walks on the year.
2006-04-07 21:20:48
427.   capdodger
I think that "Fine" restaurants are often overrated. I much prefer good and cheap. Give me the blue plate special at Rocklands BBQ any day over almost anything else. It's sort of the moneyball theory of eating out.
2006-04-07 21:25:10
428.   capdodger
Wow.... Beltre draws a walk.
2006-04-07 21:25:58
429.   trainwreck
And then gets called for inteference.
2006-04-07 21:28:00
430.   Bob Timmermann
My record book doesn't have a record for most BBs by a reliever, but I would think it would be more than six. There's likely some reliever who came in for a long time to take one for the team who has walked more.
2006-04-07 21:30:21
431.   Daniel Zappala
Nothing gives me greater pleasure than flipping through Bronx Banter when the Yankees blow a bases-loaded 1-out situation with a DP.

BTW, they clearly don't have the same standards as Jon. Thank you for keeping this civil.

2006-04-07 21:30:40
432.   oldbear
Are Bloomquist/Betancourt about as bad with the bat as Izturis/Cora were?

Bavasi might give Jim Bowden a run for worst GM in baseball.

2006-04-07 21:31:04
433.   capdodger
429 And then is take out because of an injured wrist.
2006-04-07 21:33:33
434.   trainwreck
I agree about how terrible they are, but Alan Baird has to be the worst GM in baseball. Mark Teahan and Mike Wood for your best player?
2006-04-07 21:34:10
435.   Bob Timmermann

Allard Baird and Wayne Krivsky say hello.

2006-04-07 21:34:38
436.   Uncle Miltie
Milton Bradley has seen 34 pitches tonight according to the A's announcers.
2006-04-07 21:34:58
437.   capdodger
431 Everyone loves upset Yanqi fans. It is the natural way of things.
2006-04-07 21:37:02
438.   oldbear
Well at least with the Royals, Baird can claim he doesnt have much money to spend.

The Mariners have actually spent money the last several years and dont seem to have a clue.

2006-04-07 21:38:08
439.   natepurcell
the royals will get some relief soon. butler and gordon should be up by the end of the year.

and if they dont mess up, they will get andrew miller in the june draft.

2006-04-07 21:39:33
440.   oldbear

Blanton had thrown 98 pitches, but he doesnt get a chance to go for the shut out.

2006-04-07 21:44:04
441.   King of the Hobos
434 It was either Teahen, Buck, and Wood, or 2 draft picks. I wouldn't call that one of Baird's worst moves, even if the trade was a little lop sided. Moves like Costa over Ambres and Guiel seems far worse to me. Plus giving contracts to mediocre veterans just to block prospects and appease some fans. And not trading Sweeney for Kotchman, or whatever the Angels were offering
2006-04-07 21:49:07
442.   oldbear
Jim Tracy is 0-5.
2006-04-07 21:51:38
443.   natepurcell
haha, david wells gave up 7 runs in his rehab start and the fans started booing. this is his response
"Obviously, they were expecting a shutout, but, sorry, my bad,"
2006-04-07 21:54:14
444.   King of the Hobos
A quartet of pitchers did a nice job for Vegas. 11 Ks and only 3 hits and 3 walks. Houlton allowed a 2 run homer, but it's Vegas and he was asking for it with 6 fly outs and 1 ground out. Hull continues to do well, despite being a little older and short
2006-04-07 21:55:27
445.   natepurcell
francouer is now 1-19 to start the season. gotta be rough on him.
2006-04-07 21:58:29
446.   Bob Timmermann
The Clippers will never beat Sacramento.


Until the end of time.

2006-04-07 22:01:26
447.   oldbear
Francoeur will be back in AAA by June. Only Vlad can swing at everything and get away with it.

Francoeur, like KOTH pointed out, really outperformed his AA line from last season at the MLB level.

I just hope Navarro doesnt regress the same way, but at catcher the Dodgers really arent expecting as much from him.

2006-04-07 22:02:19
448.   natepurcell
tracy at his finest..

Tracy would love for one of the young center fielders to get hot. That probably would earn a run of playing time for that person.

"I'm very in tune with that," Tracy said. "When a guy gets on a roll and stays on a roll for a little while, you ride that out."

what a hypocrite.

2006-04-07 22:03:47
449.   natepurcell
the difference between francouer and navarro is that navarro takes pitches and can still be productive in slumps by taking bbs.

i like frenchie, hes an exciting player but he seriously needs to readjust his approach.

2006-04-07 22:09:38
450.   Uncle Miltie
446- without Maggette and a playoff spot almost locked up. I don't think the Clippers would mind slipping to the 6th spot and having to play Denver instead of Dallas. The Lakers also slipped to the 8th spot and if they continue to lose, they might not make the playoffs period. You can thank the "Zen Master" if that happens.
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2006-04-07 22:13:27
451.   natepurcell
braves take the lead! go braves.
2006-04-07 22:15:21
452.   Uncle Miltie
Cain is not looking very good. Frenchie doesn't look as fast as they say he did. Maybe because he's running in the mud?
2006-04-07 22:24:10
453.   natepurcell
great kuo article on Shows a little the trials kuo has gone through in the last 6-7 years.
2006-04-07 22:25:12
454.   jasonungar05
7 home runs in 4 games is not THAT hot.
2006-04-07 22:26:03
455.   Bob Timmermann
Cain standing in the field
Getting cold and wet
Lot of misery at AT&T
Giants down 4 to 3.

Cain's cutters are missing,
Bonds has gone away
Bonds gone reality show
Staying in a big hotel
People in San Francisco
Got many sad tales to tell

2006-04-07 22:38:39
456.   Uncle Miltie
I don't even think Bonds is in the stadium
2006-04-07 22:46:41
457.   jujibee
I wasn't aware, but did you guys know that Kuo used to hit 107 on the gun. That's amazing!
2006-04-07 22:46:43
458.   natepurcell
devine sucks. argh.
2006-04-07 22:47:12
459.   natepurcell
i dont think kuo use to hit 107 on the gun...
2006-04-07 22:52:18
460.   jujibee
459. I didn't think so as well. I think we would've heard about it, but the Dodger announcer tonight quoted that before his first TJ,he hit 107. I wouldn't put it out of the realm of posibility being that he can throw in the upper 90's after 2 TJs, but 107 is unbelievable. Rob Dibble hit 104 and I haven't seen anything faster than Gagne's 102 since.
2006-04-07 22:53:01
461.   caseybarker
Don't take Psycho Lyons word for it!
2006-04-07 22:53:28
462.   natepurcell
i think lyons was being his usual idiot self when he said that.
2006-04-07 22:55:18
463.   Bob Timmermann
Could've been that Lyons was using me as his math advisor.
2006-04-07 22:55:53
464.   caseybarker
Pscho is a proud Oregon State alum, and we are all proud of him.
2006-04-07 22:57:23
465.   caseybarker
2006-04-07 22:57:43
466.   DodgerHobbit
I won't feel completely happy/right about the dodgers and 51's wins until Ramon Martinez is sent down and either Robles or Aybar is sent up. The injustice of it kills me even more than the inefficiency of the situation.
2006-04-07 22:59:12
467.   CanuckDodger
Nate -- or anybody else who watched Cain tonight and saw Billingsley pitch last Saturday -- how about comparing and contrasting Billingsley and Cain? I watched Cain tonight, but have not seen Billingsley. I like Cain's delivery, and he works remarkably quickly. He was sitting at 92-93 MPH, and once in a while got his fastball up to 94 or 95. His curve had its moments but it was pretty inconsistent. A couple days ago I read somebody say that Cain's stuff is better than Billingsley's, but I doubt it. Cain has Triple A experience right now and that is probably what really separates them. Anybody have any thoughts on Kyle Davies of the Braves? Looks promising. Very over-the-top delivery.
2006-04-07 23:00:11
468.   jujibee
Did you know tha Summer Sanders broke the world record in a pool at high school? Noone knew it either and that's why they put her in a real pool, and she went on to beat that speed. The high school pool was where I went to high school, but no one believed it at the time. It's hard to believe that anyone hit 107 on the gun, but he does throw effortlessly at 95.?.?.? Who knows??? I as well think the announcer was a little full of it, but he retired all 6 battes faced with 4 K's. That's something that's real and that he can build on!
2006-04-07 23:00:39
469.   natepurcell
cox stop arguing, they are going to call the game soon.
2006-04-07 23:04:44
470.   natepurcell

cain and billingsley both have similar builds and very similar stuff. Billingsley is a little bit shorter, but stockier (more muscle mass in the butt/thigh area). their deliveries are pretty similar as well. Billingsley works just as quickly as cain. I personally like billingsley's cb more then cains. Billingsley has more of a spike or downward break to his curve whereas cain is a little bit more side to side. Cain has more run action on his fb, but both can dial it up to the mid 90s when the situation calls.

2006-04-07 23:06:53
471.   Bob Timmermann
The problem with throwing 107 mph is that it's way above what the fastest pitch recorded by a method other than a handheld gun. Ryan is credited with 100.9 mph.
2006-04-07 23:11:17
472.   natepurcell
giants bullpen has absolutely imploded. not that im complaining or anything...
2006-04-07 23:20:46
473.   Andrew Shimmin
I can throw 107. I just don't want to.
2006-04-07 23:30:04
474.   das411
473 - Sidd Finch? ;)

I think I have read upwards of 2000 posts on here over the last two days, and I think...did you guys miss Tampa Bay picking up popular Old Friend Marcos Carvajal?

(buried pretty deep in here):

Doesn't nearly make up for signing TOMAS PEREZ instead of bringing Upton back up, but it's progress...I suppose...

2006-04-08 00:07:00
475.   A Slo
Headin' for First Place by the end of the Night...So what if it is a 4 way tie and we've played 4 games?
2006-04-08 06:57:07
476.   Daniel Zappala
Don't think I've seen a game before where the manager is tossed arguing balls and strikes during an inning when his team scored 8 runs. Anybody know why Cox was arguing last night?
2006-04-08 07:31:41
477.   Steve
No more starters till you've eaten all the ones on your plate already!

It's not the eating them, it's trying to keep them down.

2006-04-08 07:57:23
478.   Steve
And Toronto has DFAed Jason Phillips. That was quick.
2006-04-08 09:25:57
479.   dzzrtRatt
Phillips: Class all the way.

Back in the clubhouse, the manager delivered the bad news. He was taken off the roster to make room for Gregg Zaun, back from an injured calf.

"Go talk to somebody who matters," Phillips said brusquely as he threw on his street clothes and headed out.

2006-04-08 09:45:14
480.   underdog
453 Hey Nate, where's that Kuo article on I couldn't find it... link?

I doubt he's ever hit 107 but 100 wouldn't surprise me. I'll take mid 90s right now.

2006-04-08 09:49:27
481.   Steve
At least he put on his clothes before he headed out.
2006-04-08 10:56:42
482.   Blu2
Was he last seen heading in the direction of Pittsburgh???? A match made in Heaven.

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