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A Monument to Koufax
2006-04-11 14:09
by Jon Weisman

If you're interested in supporting a campaign to place a statue of Sandy Koufax at Dodger Stadium, go to Baseball Savvy and send in your e-petition.

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Today's Game

Comments (329)
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2006-04-11 14:36:05
1.   Bob Timmermann
A statue is a good idea, but where are you going to put it so everybody sees it? Dodger Stadium doesn't have a common entrance.
2006-04-11 14:39:47
2.   Jesse
the statue idea is great, but it would be bad form to make it anyone other than jackie. i love koufax and realize robinson didn't play in la, but...
2006-04-11 14:46:19
3.   Bob Timmermann
I read a blog by a New Yorker who thinks the Mets new stadium should be called Jackie Robinson Field.

I wanted to break my monitor (I was at work).

I think Koufax is more deserving of an LA statue than Jackie.
There already is a statue of Jackie Robinson at Jackie Robinson Stadium at UCLA.

2006-04-11 15:00:15
4.   Jacob L
Not that it necessarily matters, but I doubt that Koufax wants a Koufax statue.
2006-04-11 15:11:59
5.   Bob Timmermann
Actually that probably does matter.
2006-04-11 15:17:04
6.   Underbruin
1 - Have it looming over the freeway offramp.
2006-04-11 15:33:08
7.   Uncle Miltie
I don't think Koufax would want the statue either.
2006-04-11 15:35:29
8.   Uncle Miltie
I found a nice birthday present for Jimbo (last item on the page)
2006-04-11 15:41:10
9.   D4P
Geez, they're practically giving it away...
2006-04-11 15:47:13
10.   Bob Timmermann
Grady Little is riding the hot hand and has Repko in the 2 slot today. Ledee bats fifth as Cruz sits and Loney drops to seventh.
2006-04-11 15:51:04
11.   King of the Hobos
10 20 minutes ago it was the normal line up (Cruz 2nd, Loney 5th, Repko 7th). Yahoo still shows that line up
2006-04-11 15:59:21
12.   King of the Hobos
Tony Abreu was taken out of yesterday's game for some reason, and does not appear in today's game. Must be hurt, hopefully not too bad.
2006-04-11 16:04:36
13.   King of the Hobos
Cruz has the flu, so no start for him. That explains Repko batting 2nd
2006-04-11 16:04:38
14.   Johnson
11 Monday says Cruz has the flu, but may be available to pinch hit.
2006-04-11 16:09:50
15.   fawnkyj
Does anybody know if Billingsley faces Jered Weaver tonite in Vegas?
2006-04-11 16:09:55
16.   Curtis Lowe
Furcal with the steal and error to third for the 2nd time this year.
2006-04-11 16:09:59
17.   underdog
Wow, a stolen base! That's three this year! Will be good to have Furcal feeling healthier... They should attempt a few more of this Pirates' catcher.
2006-04-11 16:11:46
18.   underdog
So, Repko strikes out and not once does Rick Monday say "Rekpo strikes out" or anything clear - he takes the longest most confusing route to the facts.
2006-04-11 16:12:37
19.   Linkmeister
Didn't I read in the Times that the Dodgers have scored in the first inning in nearly every game this season? Nice trend.
2006-04-11 16:14:18
20.   Curtis Lowe
Kent will hit one out his next at bat.
2006-04-11 16:14:23
21.   Nuke
Close, but no cigar...
2006-04-11 16:15:03
22.   Nuke
Anything Kent can do, Ledee can do better!
2006-04-11 16:15:17
23.   Curtis Lowe
RICKY ledee
2006-04-11 16:15:22
24.   fawnkyj
3-0! I love this first inning attack we have so far this year.
2006-04-11 16:15:54
25.   underdog
Cruz-replacement Ledee hits one out, right after Kent almost did.

19 Yeah, that's a great trend. Hope it continues.

2006-04-11 16:16:07
26.   Curtis Lowe
perfect time for Loneys first HR
2006-04-11 16:17:02
27.   Curtis Lowe
I will be quiet now.
2006-04-11 16:17:09
28.   underdog
It's a trend that would definitely continue all year... if they could go against the Pirates every game. This is fun so far, though.
2006-04-11 16:17:55
29.   Benaiah
I know that one has to beware of small sample sizes, but the Dodger offense has definately looked good so far this year. That seems to have more to do with Depo (Drew, Saenz, Ledee) than Flanders, although Mueller has done well so far. I hope this keeps up, whoever is responsible.
2006-04-11 16:18:06
30.   Eric Enders
According to the Yahoo play-by-play page, the Dodger lineup includes:

Ledee 1B
Loney CF

Somehow, I doubt it.

2006-04-11 16:19:55
31.   Curtis Lowe
If anyone has MLB TV and is getting the Pittsburgh feed. This can be fixed by repeatedly opening and closing MLBTV until you get the KCAL feed.
2006-04-11 16:20:21
32.   Nuke
Jim Tracy must really want to win, he actually started the team's second best hitter.
2006-04-11 16:21:29
33.   Linkmeister
30 Well. Easy error to make, right? They're both tall skinny guys. Bring back the names on uniforms!
2006-04-11 16:25:33
34.   Curtis Lowe
2006-04-11 16:25:42
35.   Gen3Blue
Nice catch LeDee--I'd of rather had Repko.
At least he would have got there. But now its a run scored
2006-04-11 16:26:19
36.   Icaros
What a joke.
2006-04-11 16:26:46
37.   Benaiah
A better way to fix that is to select Dodgers under "My Team" on the top bar and then pick this game under recent games. This will pick the dodger feed.
2006-04-11 16:27:01
38.   sanchez101
wow, that was a bomb off of seo
2006-04-11 16:27:38
39.   Curtis Lowe
37- I didn't know that, thanks.

If ledee would have not been such a lame duck it would still be 3 nothing.

2006-04-11 16:28:28
40.   Linkmeister
35 Huh? Gameday says it was a homer to right field. Ledee's in left field, also according to Gameday. Can I not trust Gameday?
2006-04-11 16:31:09
41.   King of the Hobos
40 Ledee couldn't catch Bay's single, thus extending the inning
2006-04-11 16:31:36
42.   Linkmeister
Ah. Thanks.
2006-04-11 16:32:23
43.   Gen3Blue
So listening to the Pittsburg announcers is a bit of a job. They're not terrible "Homers",
but they have pointed out that Furcal is error prone, and practically jumped on the mike when Bernitz homered. I have pretty much convinced myself that Furcals error rate is due to his excellent range.
Who the hell made that bunt--Seo--OK
2006-04-11 16:32:39
44.   Nuke
Jeromy Burnitz has hit 10 HR against the Dodgers since his brief stint in LA.
2006-04-11 16:32:53
45.   sanchez101
ledee didnt make an easy catch earlier in the inning, the shot to right was with two outs ...
2006-04-11 16:34:01
46.   Linkmeister
This looks to be a 10-9 game.
2006-04-11 16:34:55
47.   Gen3Blue
wow--Repko was robbed!
2006-04-11 16:35:29
48.   Eric Enders
Except this 10-9 game in Pittsburgh will likely not be ended by Bill Mazeroski.
2006-04-11 16:37:31
49.   Linkmeister
And nobody in this game reminds me of Yogi Berra, Bill Skowron, Mickey Mantle, or Whitey Ford, either. Ralph Terry, maybe, depending on who gives up the most home runs.
2006-04-11 16:39:37
50.   Curtis Lowe
Kent with the clutch weak groundout
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2006-04-11 16:40:33
51.   Sam DC
Long day for the Natoinals at their home opener. Poor Ryan Zimmerman, strikes out on three pitches with the bases loaded to end the game in front of many family and friends. (Not that it wasn't well over in all but name already.)

It didn't hurt the Mets, who own the Nationals but intentionally walking anyone -- even Carlos Delgado -- to get to David Wright strikes me as curious. (There were already two outs when it happened so no DP issue.)

Cheney was loudly and sustainedly booed. He was quick on and off the field. I missed all this as I was on stern orders to get a hotdog and the lines were unholy -- 25 minutes in line, even before the game started.

I don't know what it says about the VP's status in the administration right now, but for some reason they decided not to go with the metal detectors . . .

2006-04-11 16:40:38
52.   Nuke
If we were still doing the Oakland thing, the score would be 4-2 and Ricky Ledee would be up with the bases loaded.
2006-04-11 16:43:09
53.   sanchez101
52. ???
2006-04-11 16:44:22
54.   Linkmeister
51 Since you were in line, Sam:

Audio/Video of Cheney:

2006-04-11 16:44:23
55.   subclub
I don't know about you guys but Rick Monday and his new buddy are driving me insane.
2006-04-11 16:45:49
56.   scareduck
51 - it would have made Drudge and thence the evening news. The similarities to the Nixon administration are just freaking me out, but at least in those days, there was a Democratic majority in Congress to keep the President in check...
2006-04-11 16:48:02
57.   fawnkyj
well i guess we do have some power!
2006-04-11 16:48:15
58.   scareduck
55 - much as I loved Reuss as a pitcher, he's approaching Rex Hudlerian depths of nonsense-spewing, as he did a couple days ago when talking about the importance of veteran leadership on a team's payroll. (Isn't that what a manager is there for?)
2006-04-11 16:48:51
59.   Steve
All due respect to our offense, which can obviously bring it, but this guy is terrible.
2006-04-11 16:48:57
60.   King of the Hobos
Could the Dodgers double their HR total for the 2nd game in a row?
2006-04-11 16:49:35
61.   Eric Enders
Monday continues to struggle with the English language, but I do enjoy Reuss.
2006-04-11 16:49:41
62.   scareduck
59 - explain the antecedant for "this".
2006-04-11 16:50:38
63.   Linkmeister
60 Aha! Evidence of the Fibonacci sequence!
2006-04-11 16:50:42
64.   scareduck
55 - in the same way one enjoys Mrs. Miller?

2006-04-11 16:50:46
65.   Eric Enders
That would mean hitting eight homers, right? Quick, somebody call Shawn Green and Gil Hodges.
2006-04-11 16:51:57
66.   Steve
The 26th rounder with the career ERA of 6.
2006-04-11 16:52:18
67.   Johnson
60 Although the Dodgers haven't currently dobled their home run total for two games in a row, they have doubled their home run totals for two days in a row already...let's make it three!
2006-04-11 16:52:26
68.   scareduck
Actually my 64 was in reference to 61.
2006-04-11 16:53:10
69.   underdog
Monday hates it when the game interrupts one of his incredibly illuminating anecdotes. "And that's out of here. Anyway, so in 1979 when Davey Lopes was... Oh and I forgot to mention we were sharing a condo in Florida at the time..."


Wow, Seo gets a hit. Snell is almost as impressive as Zach was yesterday.

2006-04-11 16:53:18
70.   Johnson
65 We only had four coming into the game, right? So four more (or now, two) would double it.
2006-04-11 16:53:36
71.   Eric Enders
Please, somebody tackle Rick Monday before he mentions every septuagenarian living in Vero Beach. I'm sure it's a long list.
2006-04-11 16:54:05
72.   Gen3Blue
Not the much feared Fibonaci!
2006-04-11 16:54:21
73.   Eric Enders
Ah, I see. I thought you meant double it in one game. Which would be a tall order.
2006-04-11 16:55:21
74.   Johnson
I love how Monday absolutely refused to mention the new score after Mueller's home run until the end of the inning - five minutes later. Oh, wait. I don't love that. Never mind.
2006-04-11 16:55:30
75.   Linkmeister
Scratch that. Fibonacci gets into big numbers way too quickly for major league hitters, even those on steroids.

1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233

2006-04-11 16:56:06
76.   Curtis Lowe
71- " septuagenarian" has to be the longest word I've read this week.
2006-04-11 16:56:16
77.   Marty
I'm home with the game on TV. There's been seven runs scored and I haven't seen any of them.
2006-04-11 16:56:59
78.   Linkmeister
Wikipedia's explanation of Fibonacci:

2006-04-11 17:00:13
79.   scareduck
76 - if I have a September birthday, does that make me a septuagenarian?
2006-04-11 17:00:39
80.   Bob Timmermann
The Giants have already called off tonight's game against Houston. They are going to make it up Thursday.
2006-04-11 17:01:40
81.   Curtis Lowe
79- Only if your between 70 and 80
2006-04-11 17:01:43
82.   underdog
I think they actually use tapes of both Monday and the Pirates announcers to torture prisoners at Guantanmo Bay.
2006-04-11 17:01:59
83.   Bob Timmermann
That will be a day-night doubleheader Thursday in San Francisco.
2006-04-11 17:02:04
84.   Eric Enders
80 I'm sure the 120-year-old outfield is looking forward to that doubleheader.
2006-04-11 17:02:45
85.   underdog
80 Yeah it's been pretty dismal weather here in SF all day today. A doubleheader Thursday for them could benefit the Dodgers.

Meanwhile, Seo isn't making the Pirates go away as he should.

2006-04-11 17:03:01
86.   Eric Enders
"I think they actually use tapes of both Monday and the Pirates announcers to torture prisoners at Guantanmo Bay."

That, and old episodes of "Growing Pains."

2006-04-11 17:03:10
87.   Bob Timmermann
Jack Bauer uses tapes of Rick Monday to get people on "24" to talk.

"Tell me where the nerve gas is now or else you are going to have to listen to Rick Monday describe the third inning of this game. If you can't tell me what the score of the game is by the time I turn the tape off, I will shoot you in the thigh!"

2006-04-11 17:03:31
88.   Steve
This is a fairly incompetent inning.
2006-04-11 17:03:40
89.   scareduck
Is this little ball vs. Little ball?
2006-04-11 17:04:38
90.   Curtis Lowe
87- good stuff.
2006-04-11 17:04:58
91.   Icaros

It hasn't stopped raining here in about 47 days.

2006-04-11 17:05:02
92.   scareduck
Did you know there was a Pirates/Dodgers rivalry?

Me either...

2006-04-11 17:05:55
93.   Curtis Lowe
86- I would rather see old eipsodes of Growing Pains than new episodes of "So NoTorious
2006-04-11 17:07:49
94.   Icaros
Growing Pains was good until Leonardo DiCaprio caused it to jump the shark.
2006-04-11 17:08:45
95.   Steve
Did Monday just say that Duffy bounced the throw to second?
2006-04-11 17:18:15
96.   Zak
I have a feeling that Seo will not end up with a W for this game.
2006-04-11 17:21:01
97.   Zak
I felt like Seo needed a reverse-jinx.
2006-04-11 17:21:33
98.   Buffalo Jones
96- As long as the Dodgers do I am ok with that.
2006-04-11 17:22:59
99.   King of the Hobos
One homer away from doubling the season total
2006-04-11 17:24:05
100.   Steve
Really, it's just tragic that we didn't sign Beltre. Watch Plaschke take the sackcloth off in the next two weeks.
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2006-04-11 17:24:33
101.   fanerman
You can't stop Bill Mueller, you can only hope to contain him.
2006-04-11 17:24:38
102.   Curtis Lowe
Muellers signing can be accredited to me.
2006-04-11 17:25:15
103.   Gen3Blue
96 Zak i hope so(or Seo). But thats very optimistic. While we could win, this early season suggests there are many runs yet to come, and many Pitchers.
2006-04-11 17:25:19
104.   King of the Hobos
Loney was so close. At least he's displaying some power
2006-04-11 17:25:33
105.   ROC
Um, maybe Loney has a little pop in that bat.
2006-04-11 17:25:37
106.   Curtis Lowe
Loney just shy of a HR hitting it out of the BallPark.
2006-04-11 17:26:21
107.   Icaros
Watch Plaschke take the sackcloth off in the next two weeks.

You mean that's not his real face?

2006-04-11 17:28:07
108.   Fearing Blue
#107: I believe it's one of them.
2006-04-11 17:29:38
109.   underdog
94 Ah, I think Growing Pains jumped the shark when Kirk Cameron first appeared. He should have been left behind. (sorry)

Did I mention once again I'm glad the Dodgers signed Bill Mueller?

2006-04-11 17:32:16
110.   Curtis Lowe
2006-04-11 17:32:25
111.   fawnkyj
Seo needs to get it together.
2006-04-11 17:32:32
112.   sanchez101
Im starting to get the feeling Seo is just korean for "Ishii + control"
2006-04-11 17:32:45
113.   Steve
It's like Jeff Weaver never left.
2006-04-11 17:33:16
114.   NPB
Did you all catch the thrilling Monday-Lyons discussion of the etymology of the idiom "healthy as a horse?" I'm gonna have to watch these games with a drool cup. Also, I'm glad to know that Psycho goes to the gym in the mornings because he's "fat." Only in the head, pal.

These are definitely not the 2003 Dodgers. I thought this was supposed to be the post-steroid era.

2006-04-11 17:33:46
115.   Icaros
Does Seo realize that his fastball is really not fast?

Good grief.

2006-04-11 17:34:04
116.   overkill94
I thought Seo was supposed to be good? I wouldn't have kept him on my fantasy team if I knew he was gonna be a bum. He better start showing some better skills to make me think last year's 2.59 ERA wasn't a fluke.
2006-04-11 17:35:06
117.   fanerman
At least we're not paying Seo the big bucks. If he's an above average 5th starter, I'm happy.
2006-04-11 17:35:20
118.   Icaros
These are definitely not the 2003 Dodgers.

That's for sure. All of this year's pitchers are garbage.

2006-04-11 17:35:49
119.   Curtis Lowe
116- He'll get better. Each homerun was the same type of pitch. He'll stop making those mistakes. He has too...
2006-04-11 17:36:16
120.   regfairfield
116 I have some bad news for you...
2006-04-11 17:36:36
121.   D4P
Looks like Flanders kept the wrong Korean.
2006-04-11 17:36:54
122.   Icaros
He better start showing some better skills to make me think last year's 2.59 ERA wasn't a fluke.

You didn't already think that? I thought everybody did.

2006-04-11 17:37:22
123.   underdog
You can't stop Rick Monday, you can only hope to bludgeon him with a Vero Beach condominium.
2006-04-11 17:37:46
124.   Steve
He's even like Weaver in that his manager leaves him in way too long to try to get the win.
2006-04-11 17:38:30
125.   underdog
121 Don't judge Seo so early - and even if we do, I'd still prefer him to Ishii, who drove me crazy every inning he pitched. And, hey, if Seo fails, you may see Billingsley...
2006-04-11 17:38:54
126.   DaveP
I give that one from Wilson a 4 on the HARM scale.
2006-04-11 17:39:01
127.   sanchez101
jack wilson?
2006-04-11 17:39:06
128.   Curtis Lowe
I take it back.
2006-04-11 17:39:23
129.   underdog
125 Scratch what I just said. I am now being driven crazy every inning Seo pitches, too.

Bullpen anyone?

2006-04-11 17:39:25
130.   regfairfield
2006-04-11 17:39:41
131.   overkill94
123 Well obviously I didn't expect a repeat, but I did expect a sub-4 ERA. Hopefully he's just a little off from playing in the WBC and/or being stuck in the pen to begin the season.
2006-04-11 17:40:10
132.   Bob Timmermann
I believe Jack Wilson is Tracy's favorite player on the Pirates.
2006-04-11 17:40:19
133.   Icaros
This is ridiculous. The only good thing about getting Seo is that we got rid of Duaner.
2006-04-11 17:40:26
134.   scareduck
Did the Dodgers make sure to get a warranty when they traded for Seo?
2006-04-11 17:40:39
135.   Steve
Jim Tracy would love Jae Seo.
2006-04-11 17:41:15
136.   capdodger
126 No way that's a 4. It only raised the Buc's win expectancy by about 10%.
2006-04-11 17:41:16
137.   scareduck
135 - in the Biblical sense.
2006-04-11 17:41:19
138.   underdog
.............. sigh ............
2006-04-11 17:41:23
139.   regfairfield
133 Eventually Baez is going to take of the mask.
2006-04-11 17:41:28
140.   sanchez101
im actually happy to see him give up "only" a single against Jason Bay ... Seo lame
2006-04-11 17:41:34
141.   Icaros
So at what point is Seo considered done, Grady?
2006-04-11 17:41:46
142.   Steve
Fire Grady Little.
2006-04-11 17:41:52
143.   Telemachos
Um, I guess at least they're only solo homers? (Trying to stay positive here...)
2006-04-11 17:42:12
144.   D4P
No doubt Tracy would refer to him as "Jae Seo(n)"
2006-04-11 17:42:39
145.   regfairfield
Is there anyone warming up? Actual question here.
2006-04-11 17:42:51
146.   Icaros
What could Honeycutt have said?

"Stop sucking"?

2006-04-11 17:43:02
147.   King of the Hobos
Don't expect this to stop any time soon, Tomko up tomorrow
2006-04-11 17:43:32
148.   Icaros

You need to update that place.

2006-04-11 17:44:02
149.   Curtis Lowe
!!!Thank you!!
2006-04-11 17:44:03
150.   bigcpa
Given that Seo made the last out of the 6th, the only possible rationale there was to get him the Win.
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2006-04-11 17:44:03
151.   underdog
........ whew ..........
2006-04-11 17:44:22
152.   Bob Timmermann
Jae Seo is now ....

in a position to succeed

2006-04-11 17:44:23
153.   Uncle Miltie
133- why is that a good thing? He was a solid reliever for us last year and had a great 2nd half.
2006-04-11 17:44:26
154.   scareduck
142 - I ran a Google search for "Jim Tracy" a day or two ago; is still the third entry on the page. Heh.
2006-04-11 17:45:16
155.   capdodger
146 - "Get the ball down you idiot"?
2006-04-11 17:45:17
156.   sanchez101
also, its not Scott Erickson ... hooray
2006-04-11 17:45:21
157.   Gen3Blue
I find some of this unfair. Weaver had excellent stuff. He was slow learning how to use it and inconsistant. Seo is a very different type of pitcher, one that has gotten the most out of medeocre stuff and velocity. Both types can do well, but its a stuped comparison!
2006-04-11 17:45:31
158.   Icaros

Oh, you have been. I gave up checking a few weeks ago.

2006-04-11 17:46:26
159.   Kayaker7
Sheez, what a game...and Burnitz's Gameday pic is so purdy.
2006-04-11 17:47:03
160.   Icaros

It was an illusion, just like Seo's second half last year.

2006-04-11 17:47:18
161.   Kayaker7
152 Is that similar to the missionary position?
2006-04-11 17:48:46
162.   sanchez101
157. well, i consider weaver and seo to both be in the same family of pitchers, lets call them "pitchers who suck". Weaver sucks in a little different way, he has his own style, and that means something ... to the Angels?
2006-04-11 17:49:04
163.   regfairfield
160 Hey, Sanchez actually improved his perhiprials.
2006-04-11 17:49:16
164.   capdodger
That was the real Jason Repko. Good to see he's back.
2006-04-11 17:49:54
165.   Icaros

I didn't trade him. Blame Midas.

2006-04-11 17:49:56
166.   Curtis Lowe
164- Why is that good?
2006-04-11 17:50:13
167.   Steve
Weaver does not have anywhere near excellent stuff. The comparison is debatable, but not on those terms.
2006-04-11 17:51:46
168.   Gen3Blue
153 Sanchez was a good thing, and he may be missed. But Seo is a starter, and that seems to be a rarity today.
Who's this P's pitcher. With Drew up he looked like Koufax(actually he's a righty--maybe Drysdale).
2006-04-11 17:52:47
169.   regfairfield
What's the current "using Lance Carter in a high leverage situation" count?
2006-04-11 17:52:50
170.   sanchez101
Seo must be laughing his ass off right now
2006-04-11 17:53:16
171.   King of the Hobos
Is Seo still out there in the form of Lance Carter?
2006-04-11 17:53:22
172.   underdog

is the wind blowing out in Pittsburgh or what today?

2006-04-11 17:53:30
173.   bigcpa
I think Jon needs to update his high-leverage HR's allowed list.
2006-04-11 17:53:37
174.   capdodger
Way to go, All-Star.
2006-04-11 17:53:38
175.   regfairfield
I wonder if Jim Tracy is learning that when Craig Wilson and Ryan Doumit play, the Pirates score runs.
2006-04-11 17:53:51
176.   Curtis Lowe
2006-04-11 17:54:36
177.   scareduck
"Lance Carter" is English for "crappy".
2006-04-11 17:54:43
178.   fanerman
2006-04-11 17:54:45
179.   Icaros
I was trying to defend one of Colletti's two moves that I approved of.

Now that I've been proven wrong, he's down to the Furcal signing.

Mueller has been good so far. Make it one-and-a-half.

2006-04-11 17:55:10
180.   overkill94
What's more perplexing this year, the incompetence of the pitching or the ubercompetence of the hitting?
2006-04-11 17:55:29
181.   scareduck
172 - Gameday says 6 mph blowing in.
2006-04-11 17:55:35
182.   Icaros
Why does Grittle always use his worst pitchers first?
2006-04-11 17:55:42
183.   Steve
180 -- the latter
2006-04-11 17:55:47
184.   capdodger
That one raised the WP about 25% over retiring the batter.
2006-04-11 17:56:23
185.   scareduck
It's time for a Chad Billingsley callup.
2006-04-11 17:56:56
186.   sanchez101
... if only the Dodgers had a groundball inducing righthander in the bullpen ... hmmm
2006-04-11 17:57:15
187.   fawnkyj
OMG this bullpen is driving me crazy, with exception of Kuo, Baez and Saito.
2006-04-11 17:57:59
188.   overkill94
186 Quantrill? I think he retired.
2006-04-11 17:58:03
189.   Curtis Lowe
And why didn't Broxton make the club?
2006-04-11 17:59:11
190.   scareduck
When Tracy was in Pittsburgh's land/
Let my Pirates go.
2006-04-11 18:00:28
191.   Gen3Blue
On Direct TV I'm being tortured by the Pittsburg annoucers. But I really deserve it if we can't muster some offense against this bullpen.
2006-04-11 18:00:51
192.   Sam DC
Well, that's the last time I go put the kids to bed while the Dodgers are ahead.

Meanwhile, for whatever reason, 142 sort of explodes across the page this evening . . .

2006-04-11 18:01:10
193.   Bob Timmermann
Hits so hard that Seo couldn't stand/
Let my Pirates go
2006-04-11 18:01:49
194.   Steve
186 -- Even if we still had you, Sanchez, we would never see you before the seventh inning. That was Carter Time!
2006-04-11 18:02:14
195.   fanerman
192 - Oh there are many people I wish were fired... and rehired.
2006-04-11 18:03:44
196.   Curtis Lowe
This is a joke right?
2006-04-11 18:03:55
197.   Steve
Of all the many pet peeves that I have, Sam, perhaps the greatest is leaving crappy pitchers in games to make (or help) them "earn" a win. It is one of those tells which gives away a lot (and nothing good) about a manager.
2006-04-11 18:05:25
198.   overkill94
To take my mind off the current state, some current stats of recent "friends":

Beltre - 4/27 (.148 BA) with 0 XBH, 0 RBI, 2 SB, and a 3/6 BB/K ratio
Bradley - 6/24 (.250 BA) with 1 triple, 3 RBI, 1 SB, 6/6 BB/K ratio

D. Sanchez - 5 IP, 0 ER, 1 H, 2 BB, 6 K's

2006-04-11 18:07:32
199.   Steve
2 SB


2006-04-11 18:07:52
200.   Gen3Blue
180 Good question. To me they are about equally perplexing. But the bull-pen is mostly quite inexperienced.
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2006-04-11 18:09:09
201.   Woody
All I can say for the Dodgers pitching so far tonight is P.U.

I would like to have statue of Sandy Koufax in my front yard.

2006-04-11 18:10:25
202.   fawnkyj
I guess Carter maybe just doesnt pitch well until he gives up 2 runs first.
2006-04-11 18:10:29
203.   scareduck
198 -- and they love Beltre in Seattle:

2006-04-11 18:11:41
204.   bigcpa
To let Carter face Bay in a 7-6 game there was criminal. And the ensuing miracle did not change my mind.
2006-04-11 18:12:05
205.   Curtis Lowe
Carter giving up 2 runs wouldn't be soo bad if Seo didn't give it up like a school girl on prom night.
2006-04-11 18:12:54
206.   Sam DC
197 Oh, I hear you. When Little pulled Lowe in Phila the other day, even though it was only 80 something pitches, it was a joyful moment. Frankly, unless he just deadly fears his bullpen (which Litle doesn't, he seems happy willing enough to leave Hamulack and Carter in to fry or fly as well), I'd think more managers would just protect their own hides with a "better too soon than too late" approach. But they sure don't.
2006-04-11 18:16:25
207.   underdog
According to Monday, Ricky Ledee is pinch hitting for the pitcher.

And after Jose Cruz safely reaches base, I am informed as to his true identity.

202 that does seem to be the case doesn't it?

2006-04-11 18:16:32
208.   King of the Hobos
Billingsley will be going up against Joe Saunders today. Ethier is not in the starting lineup
2006-04-11 18:17:12
209.   overkill94
Hey, Beltre got hit by a pitch! Watch that OBP soar!
2006-04-11 18:17:34
210.   scareduck
205 - jebus, what kind of school did you go to?
2006-04-11 18:18:59
211.   overkill94
Come on Repko, my fantasy team needs you!

I mean, the DODGERS need you!

2006-04-11 18:20:27
212.   scareduck
202 - when Cortez reached the New World, he burned his ships, to discipline the crew.
2006-04-11 18:22:59
213.   capdodger
Baez in a non-save situation??? Sound the alarmbells!! Closer in a non-save situation!!
2006-04-11 18:23:04
214.   Steve
Comedy becomes farce.
2006-04-11 18:24:24
215.   bigcpa
Preaching to the choir I know, but if you're willing to use Baez in the non-save sitch here... why isn't Jason Bay in the 7th inning worthy of his services?
2006-04-11 18:25:11
216.   bhsportsguy
This is rare but Baez has not pitched since Friday but still what if the Dodgers come back to tie or take the lead, who pitches, but I guess its better to be one run down than two?
2006-04-11 18:27:13
217.   Steve
I would hate to tax Baez's arm by making him pitch two innings.
2006-04-11 18:27:26
218.   underdog
Yeah, what 216 said. He hadn't pitched in awhile and needed the work. It's now or never for LA anyway. I don't think it's a bad move and the 7th would have been too early (although, yeah, in hindsight, would rather have had him in there than Carter... but it's not like he could pitch three straight innings.)
2006-04-11 18:28:58
219.   Gen3Blue
Way to draw some pitches!
2006-04-11 18:29:51
220.   bhsportsguy
215 - That has been issue discussed before, sometimes the most crucial time will be those middle innings situations and Bay came up with 2 out and nobody on base and I know some don't like this argument, the pitcher's spot was due up second in the 8th, and the Dodgers don't have a lot of options for double switches, blah blah blah....Anyways, I was surprised he put him in the 8th.
2006-04-11 18:30:23
221.   underdog
Boy, Kent didn't help much today. Oh well.
2006-04-11 18:30:37
222.   Curtis Lowe
This game has been extremely dissapointing.
2006-04-11 18:30:45
223.   fanerman
Just like that, our 2 best hitters are gone.
2006-04-11 18:30:52
224.   bhsportsguy
Tomato sighting
2006-04-11 18:31:14
225.   fawnkyj
What an ugly loss.
2006-04-11 18:31:49
226.   underdog
Feh. I figured the Dodgers would lose one of the 4 to the Pirates. Let's hope that's all it is.
2006-04-11 18:32:02
227.   Curtis Lowe
Did the past 2 hours just happen?
2006-04-11 18:32:08
228.   Steve
Score one for those who think the band is different, but the song is the same.
2006-04-11 18:32:29
229.   TheRedMenace
215- If you bring in Baez to pitch to Bay, then you have to pinch-hit for him after only one batter, or let him swing that Ruthian stick.

When you're down a run, letting the closer hit is kind of a bad idea.

2006-04-11 18:32:55
230.   bigcpa
228 Well Google Boy would never have acquired Carter.
2006-04-11 18:36:35
231.   bhsportsguy
Not sure what the winning pct. is for 5th starters, I think the Padres went 0-for the 2nd half of 2004 without a win in that spot.

That said, bad loss but what have we learned in a week is that this team can score runs but until they can get 6 innings out of their starters and find some answers in their bullpen, they are going to have to score 6-7 runs a game. Sad thing is they are averaging that are they are at .500.

2006-04-11 18:37:33
232.   scareduck
228 - all due respect, the band is older and more likely to end up in rehab for meth addiction.
2006-04-11 18:42:07
233.   Vaudeville Villain
The offense should not be this good all season, and the pitching should not be this bad all season.

I see this team as a middling team anyway, but let's not get too up or down on any facet of the team yet.

2006-04-11 18:43:53
234.   regfairfield
231 Problem is that if we go by merit, Seo is our fourth starter.
2006-04-11 18:46:43
235.   Steve
Let's trade Carter for a pitching prospect
2006-04-11 18:48:54
236.   King of the Hobos
If Colorado can beat Arizona tonight, then the Rockies will be in first all by themselves, 1.5 games ahead of the Dodgers. Cory Sullivan just started the game with a 10 pitch single
2006-04-11 18:54:30
237.   scareduck
235 welcome, Bucket O'Balls, RHP.
2006-04-11 18:54:37
238.   King of the Hobos
And Helton has homered. The Rockies' road to first place has begun
2006-04-11 18:56:43
239.   Steve
We traded one to get him. You mean we wouldn't get one back?
2006-04-11 19:07:57
240.   heato
Finally, JtD in left.
2006-04-11 19:08:35
241.   Uncle Miltie
Just got back from class.... So we lose the game thanks to the All Star? I was saying all spring that Carter is junk. Too bad Colletti didn't take notice.

Grits was out-managed by Jimbo? That doesn't say much about his strategically abilities.

2006-04-11 19:14:40
242.   King of the Hobos
Billingsley out of the first on 13 pitches. Gave up an infield single, but it was erased on a DP. Vegas up to bat

Also, Conor Jackson grounded into a 7-5-4 DP. How do you pull that one off?

2006-04-11 19:22:31
243.   Bob Timmermann
I think this game existed solely in the mind of Tommy Westphal.
2006-04-11 19:34:59
244.   HomeDePo
Grady Little,

Move J.D. to centerfield.

Move Jose Cruz Jr. to right.

That way we wouldn't have Jason Repko striking out three times a game (even though he has improved that from four times a game last year).

2006-04-11 19:39:37
245.   HomeDePo
BTW, I always feel left out when everybody is talking about the minor league games. I get the Baseball America Prospect report but I am still jealous. Are you guys watching the game on TV or are you doing one of those Game-Channel things on the internet?
2006-04-11 19:40:55
246.   natepurcell
ah i just got in. been busy all day. see that we lost. see that our pitching still sucks. oh well.

its okay, lance carter is a "great" reliever!

2006-04-11 19:41:40
247.   D4P
Runs scored by inning thus far:

1: 18
2: 7
3: 5
4: 1
5: 7
6: 0
7: 3
8: 7
9: 3

Conclusion: This team is not clutch

2006-04-11 19:42:31
248.   Uncle Miltie

244- who plays left?

2006-04-11 19:43:56
249.   HomeDePo
247 D4P

Could you tell us what our opponents have scored by inning this year? That might show us how non-clutch we really are.

2006-04-11 19:44:52
250.   norcalblue
246 - No Midas testimonials tonight...always a silver lining.
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2006-04-11 19:45:27
251.   HomeDePo

Ricky Ledee currently.

When Nomar gets back, we have two situations:

1. Put Nomar at first and either send Loney back to the minors or keep him on the bench.

2. Move him to left field and put Ricky Ledee on the bench (we know how effective he is as a pinch-hitter).

2006-04-11 19:45:51
252.   natepurcell
so is Midas only a monday and friday type of thing?
2006-04-11 19:46:03
253.   Bob Timmermann

Keep going. The word you want is "strategic".

2006-04-11 19:48:49
254.   HomeDePo


2006-04-11 19:51:20
255.   Sam DC
243 Certainly, that's true about the 3-run lead the Dodgers appeared to have.
2006-04-11 19:52:16
256.   sanchez101
another nice inning for billingsley
2006-04-11 19:53:59
257.   HomeDePo

Where are you getting this?

TV or Internet?

2006-04-11 19:54:37
258.   D4P
Opponents' runs scored by inning:

1: 7
2: 1
3: 8
4: 6
5: 6
6: 5
7: 3
8: 6
9: 3

2006-04-11 19:56:24
259.   HomeDePo

The Dodgers are officially not clutch.


2006-04-11 19:57:10
260.   PennyJavy

Triple A games are on GameDay now.

2006-04-11 19:58:13
261.   Sam DC
257 Might try There's gameday and also web tv/radio for some games.
2006-04-11 19:58:20
262.   Vishal
[253] actually, i think the word he wants is probably "tactical" :)
2006-04-11 19:58:21
263.   natepurcell
guzman cant pick up the ball off saunders, 2ks in 2ABs. he needs to start walking.
2006-04-11 19:58:39
264.   Sam DC
Minn/Oakland, another 7-6 loss for the west coast.
2006-04-11 19:59:34
265.   HomeDePo


2006-04-11 20:00:39
266.   King of the Hobos


Audio (scroll down):

2006-04-11 20:03:21
267.   HomeDePo
Has anybody gone to Dodger Stadium this year? I want to know how they like the new seats (colorwise and comfortwise).
2006-04-11 20:06:35
268.   natepurcell
haha weaver gives up 2nd to blalock.
2006-04-11 20:08:31
269.   natepurcell
billingsley gives up a homerun to Mcpherson.
2006-04-11 20:08:34
270.   Sam DC
Hey Jon, probably he told you or you otherwise saw but, if not, that dc blogger whose hit-and-run lament I quoted in the comments of your hit-and-run post has now excerpted your post over at his site. Not a big deal, but he says you explained the issue "beautifullY," and I know you like that sort of thing.

2006-04-11 20:12:08
271.   natepurcell
and then billingsley gets mad and strikes out the next two batters on 7 pitchers.

line so far

4IP 3h 1er 1bb 8k 1hr (probably wind aided)

2006-04-11 20:12:32
272.   sanchez101
billingsley responds with back to back K's;
4ip 3h 1er 1w 8k 3gb 1fb 69pitches
2006-04-11 20:14:12
273.   Nuke
Call him up!

8 strikeouts in 4 innings for Billingsley. Put him in the rotation and he's our #2.

2006-04-11 20:17:25
274.   natepurcell
his gb/fb ratio is has really impressed me. last game he had over a 3:1 gb:fb ratio as well.
2006-04-11 20:20:42
275.   natepurcell
logan white needs to raid the prep pitching class in this years draft.
2006-04-11 20:21:42
276.   Steve
I like the look of the stadium generally.
2006-04-11 20:23:47
277.   Uncle Miltie
262- that's it. I didn't get into college based on my English SAT's ;) Just kidding. I've had less than 14 hours of sleep the last 3 days combined. 1 more midterm tomorrow and then I'm almost done until finals.
2006-04-11 20:31:56
278.   subclub
267 The new seats are definitely an upgrade, and I think they're about as much as we could ask for from all-weather plastic seats. I'm personally a fan of the color scheme, but the outfield wall might be a bit much for some.
2006-04-11 20:38:45
279.   das411
Wow, Weaver's gameday pic looks like a stoned Curt Schilling!
2006-04-11 21:04:23
280.   still bevens
One unexpected perk of the new seats is that you get a pretty good sound if you bang on them.
2006-04-11 21:09:44
281.   D4P

Bill Mueller went 4-for-4 with two homers and three RBI against the Pirates on Tuesday.
Both homers came off Ian Snell. Mueller, not having any difficulties in his return to the NL West, is 13-for-27 with a 1/3 K/BB ratio. It's just too bad he's a Dodger. He's practically guaranteed of making a trip to the DL prior to Memorial Day. Apr. 11 - 10:02 pm et

2006-04-11 21:16:31
282.   heato
Brad Hawpe only needs a single to be the first player to hit for a cycle this year. He's the fourth batter due up for Colorado in the top of the ninth.
2006-04-11 21:16:34
283.   heato
Brad Hawpe only needs a single to be the first player to hit for a cycle this year. He's the fourth batter due up for Colorado in the top of the ninth.
2006-04-11 21:17:02
284.   heato
stupid double post
2006-04-11 21:35:38
285.   D4P
I'm not watching the Laker game, but it looks as if they just scored 33 points in the 3rd quarter, with only 1 of those points being scored by Kobe.

Odom has a triple-double after 3 quarters.

2006-04-11 21:38:04
286.   trainwreck
Kwame has had a nice game as well.
2006-04-11 21:40:46
287.   D4P
Are you watching the 3rd season of TUF? I found Tito to be surprisingly likable in the first episode...
2006-04-11 21:40:52
288.   natepurcell
wow kwame has 15 boards. go KB54!!!
2006-04-11 21:43:20
289.   D4P
The Lakers trailed by 10 after the 1st quarter, and now lead by 24.
2006-04-11 21:46:35
290.   D4P
Does Jimmy Jackson get any PT for the Lakers? That guy's a good player, but I don't think they use him at all.
2006-04-11 21:47:55
291.   trainwreck
Yeah, because he looks great compared to Ken the moron Shamrock. Shamrock has no technical skills and can not teach these fighters anything. He is a useless coach. Tito brought in good assistant coaches and has a better training routine then Ken. Tito also seems to care about these fighters and wants to get to know them. Shamrock just cares about beatint Tito.
2006-04-11 21:48:45
292.   trainwreck
Jimmy gets very little playing time, which is dumb if you ask me. He is just not one of Phil's guys.
2006-04-11 21:49:21
293.   natepurcell
broxton in the 9th to shut it down. 5-4, top of the order for salt lake.
2006-04-11 21:51:31
294.   trainwreck
What was Billingsley's line in the end?
2006-04-11 21:51:51
295.   Sam DC
It takes a long time to cook 12 pounds of brisket and 3 gallons of chicken stock.
2006-04-11 21:52:09
296.   D4P
Yeah, I felt bad for the guys that ended up on Ken's team. They're not gonna learn much. It was actually kind of embarrassing.

I don't think I even realized Jimmy was on the roster until I just saw his name in the box score.

2006-04-11 21:54:50
297.   natepurcell
first and second 1 out. robles commits an error.
2006-04-11 21:57:12
298.   natepurcell
broxton Ks Napoli. 2 down, Mcpherson up.
2006-04-11 21:59:31
299.   King of the Hobos
292 5 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 8 K, 1 HR

The third run came on a bunch of grounders, nothing was really hit hard. McPherson went deep for the first two

2006-04-11 21:59:43
300.   natepurcell
called strike, inside corner. mcpherson ks!

the 51s win! the 51s win!

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2006-04-11 22:00:46
301.   King of the Hobos
Vegas is 6-0. 2005 was the Southern League Championship, 2005 the Pacific League, and 2007 the World!
2006-04-11 22:01:58
302.   fawnkyj
Wow what an ending to the the 51s game! The bull sits down Mcpherson. I hope he can keep learning and keep getting better and give the Blues bully some help.
2006-04-11 22:14:19
303.   natepurcell
if anyone wants to watch a crappy,but funny tv show, real housewives of OC is on bravo right now.

my friends are idiots on it. they are talking about MILFs lol.

2006-04-11 22:24:36
304.   capdodger
MILFs? That's so 1999.
2006-04-11 22:25:42
305.   natepurcell
the whole show is based around 5 MILFs.
2006-04-11 22:26:01
306.   trainwreck
Which ones are your friends? I just turned to it.
2006-04-11 22:31:56
307.   natepurcell
all the ones in Havasu are my friends. Although i do know the Keough family, but i dont like shane. hes a cocky, arrogant idiot.
2006-04-11 22:36:51
308.   natepurcell
haha they get pulled over by a cop on a boat.
2006-04-11 22:37:14
309.   trainwreck
This show is absolutely terrible!
2006-04-11 22:39:44
310.   natepurcell
i know! but i just laugh at all my friends and two of the moms are really hot.
2006-04-11 22:43:58
311.   natepurcell
Lauri is absolutely one of the hottest milfs ive met in person. she works at mikes house with mikes mom and shes one of the reasons we go over there all the time.
2006-04-11 22:44:14
312.   trainwreck
Laurie looks like Janine.
2006-04-11 22:47:05
313.   trainwreck
Fake Drew Rosenhaus.


2006-04-11 22:48:19
314.   trainwreck
Do you know this women Jo?
2006-04-11 22:49:59
315.   natepurcell
nope i dont know Jo. I wish i did/do. shes really young though. something like 24
2006-04-11 22:50:34
316.   trainwreck
Damn haha.
2006-04-11 22:50:42
317.   natepurcell
haha that guy does look like drew rosenhaus. haha
2006-04-11 22:51:27
318.   trainwreck
Awesome, I did not like this guy who was talking and it turned out to be Shane haha.
2006-04-11 22:52:49
319.   natepurcell
he thinks hes sooo good at baseball but he actually sucks. he was drafted by As in the 2005 draft, but it wasnt until like the 30th+ round and only because of his dad.
2006-04-11 22:54:03
320.   trainwreck
Aww one of those types. We had a guy like that at my school, but he was drafted in the 100th round haha.
2006-04-11 22:54:35
321.   natepurcell
His dad is a pretty big dick too. i use to take lessons pitching lessons from him like 7 years ago. wow thats a long time ago.
2006-04-11 22:57:27
322.   natepurcell
the majority of this show is scripted. so its not even real.
2006-04-11 22:58:25
323.   trainwreck
This kid's mind is going to be so full after this show that he will turn into a blimp monster.

I like that people ask him if he is gay haha

2006-04-11 23:02:10
324.   Jon Weisman
321 - Sorry, Nate - but that qualifies as bad language here. Try to avoid that - thanks.
2006-04-11 23:05:31
325.   natepurcell
oops sorry Jon. My bad. You can edit that out. just put in mean person or something :)

sorry, it just slipped.

2006-04-11 23:15:33
326.   natepurcell
after 24ABs, guzman hasnt walked yet. has struck out 5 times (which isnt bad) and has a really good BA though. But still, i dont like the no walks from him.
2006-04-11 23:54:10
327.   natepurcell
i just watched that loney AB with the almost homerun.

he absolutely crushed that thing with such an easy, effortless swing too. almost out of the stadium. but foul :(

2006-04-12 06:49:25
328.   Sam DC
Hey LAT -- mlb uses Tom Boswell to fire a warning shot across the bow of your buddies the Lerners. We'll see if they rise to the challenge . . .

2006-04-12 07:06:28
329.   Sam DC
Happy Birthday David Letterman.

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