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Is Pitching in Las Vegas Actually a Good Thing?
2006-05-02 10:30
by Jon Weisman

Maybe Las Vegas was telling the truth after all. Maybe the crazy hitting environment there is a good test rather than a useless one.

It's early in the season, but for now, all we know is that even though the barometric pressure and such presumably haven't changed on the Strip, the 51s suddenly have (or had) nine pitchers who have thrown 10 or more innings with ERAs below 4.00 there.

0.00 Jonathan Broxton
0.82 Eric Hull
1.38 Joe Beimel
1.59 Chad Billingsley
2.43 Aaron Sele
2.96 William Juarez
3.00 D.J. Houlton
3.09 Luis Gonzalez
3.43 Eric Stults

In 2005, they had two pitchers with 10 innings and ERAs under 4: Franquelis Osoria and Derek Thompson, both of whom acquitted themselves passably in the majors.

* * *

Tonight's Game

Comments (499)
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2006-05-02 10:40:35
1.   DXMachina
I was looking at that earier, myself. The entire starting rotation in Vegas is under 3.50.
2006-05-02 10:40:48
2.   Bob Timmermann
Is Derek Thompson ever going to pitch again or did his star burn a litte bit and then flame out?
2006-05-02 10:44:12
3.   regfairfield
Wasn't his Tommy John surgery less than a year ago?
2006-05-02 10:45:23
4.   Jon Weisman
From on March 14:

Thompson nears return: Star-crossed left-handed pitcher Derek Thompson, who underwent Tommy John surgery last year, said he will resume tossing in a couple weeks.

"I feel so much better," said Thompson, who also had a minor procedure to remove scar tissue a month ago. "I can already tell how much better it feels than it did before that procedure. I can straighten it out and not feel anything. There was so much scar tissue around the nerve that it was painful. It's similar to what [Eric] Gagne had. They freed up the nerve and I'm 100 percent better. I'm just about ready to go. I should be ready for games around the time of the Fall League."

2006-05-02 10:48:09
5.   Kayaker7
There is a piece in Baseball Prospectus 2006 that discussed how players, the longer they play in Colorado, the home/away split gets worse. Apparently, they adjust their approach to the game to optimize for their home ballpark, to the detriment of their play elsewhere. Maybe there is something similar in Vegas?
2006-05-02 11:07:48
6.   Sam DC
Jamie McCourt chat:

pretty weak brew.

2006-05-02 11:15:24
7.   Jon Weisman
6 - That's a big "Why bother."
2006-05-02 11:26:16
9.   Zak
4 Is it a good thing that Thompson's injusry is similar to what Gagne had?
2006-05-02 11:26:48
10.   Curtis Lowe
Are the new colors causing problems for the infield?

2006-05-02 11:28:05
11.   Zak
It is so difficult to misspell "injury" like I did in the above post because the "S" is nowhere near the "I", "N", "J", "U", R" or the "Y".
2006-05-02 11:29:24
12.   Marty
There was a great sign outside my work's parking garage:

There will be filming of the movie "Next" beyond this sign.
This will involve helicopters landing, loud explosions and gunfire.
Please excuse the inconvenience.

2006-05-02 11:29:35
13.   Bob Timmermann

Have you considered the fact that your left hand may be possessed by a demon or supernatural force?

2006-05-02 11:30:10
14.   Curtis Lowe
12- lol.
2006-05-02 11:30:24
15.   Jon Weisman
8 - And what if Ethier doesn't get a hit in his first 13 ABs? Should we cut bait?

10 -

2006-05-02 11:31:53
16.   Zak
12 Please say HI to Jessica Biel for me if you see her.
2006-05-02 11:32:54
17.   Sam DC
Pujols sitting out with a sore back (and day game after night). Tied 2-2 going into the 8th -- will he PH?
2006-05-02 11:34:44
18.   Bob Timmermann

When "Heat" was filmed by the liberry, one Saturday as we were going out they were filming some scenes from the big bank robbery sequence.

As everybody tried to leave you could hear the sounds of automatic weapons (presumably phony ones) and people yelling and screaming.

We ordered to stay inside for a few minutes.

Not for our safety of course.

Michael Mann didn't want to ruin the shot.

2006-05-02 11:34:55
19.   Marty
16 I doubt I'll get invited to her trailer. The last movie filmed here had Beyonce in it and she was rumored to be eating in our cafeteria one day, but she never showed.
2006-05-02 11:38:04
20.   Marty
I just looked it up. It's has Nicolas Cage and Julianne Moore starring. Moore is more my style than Jessica Biel.
2006-05-02 11:41:12
21.   Bob Timmermann
But Julianne Moore's career seems to be heading south. She's been in some dogs recently.

Unlike Jessica Biel zooming to the top on the strength of her...

her ....

her ....

well you know.

2006-05-02 11:41:16
22.   Zak
You won't hear me say anything bad about Julianne Moore either, but I would have to go with Jessica Biel.
2006-05-02 11:43:03
23.   Zak
11 I do have a trigger-happy left hand today for some reason. Either supernatural forces or worse... too much coffee.
2006-05-02 11:45:58
24.   Sam DC
21 zooming to the top on the strength of her . . . supersecret pilotless stealth fighter jet?

Meanwhile, Marty, guy says to shout out hello to Jessica Biel and you're worrying about getting invited into her trailer?! Don't think of you as such a modern guy . . .

2006-05-02 11:47:12
25.   Eric Enders
"This will involve helicopters landing, loud explosions and gunfire.
Please excuse the inconvenience."

I think households in Iraq got the same handbill.

2006-05-02 11:47:25
26.   Zak
Who has a better chance of making the postseason... the Reds or the Dodgers? Tougher question, who will finish the season with a better record? I picked the Reds because they are the most surprising team in the NL to me so far.
2006-05-02 11:48:15
27.   Xeifrank
I. wow, those are some pretty impressive early season ERAs. I hope they call Aaron Sele up soon!

II. With Ledee going on the DL, we sure could use a good left handed bat off the bench. HSC?

vr, Xei

2006-05-02 11:48:42
28.   Eric Enders
"But Julianne Moore's career seems to be heading south. She's been in some dogs recently."

Apparently reading isn't very important to her.

2006-05-02 11:49:19
29.   Zak
25 But that is for their own good. For the purpose of rescuing them from tyranny and war and senseless, random killings.
2006-05-02 11:50:07
30.   Suffering Bruin
15 responding to 8:

I think it's reason number one why Choi was written off--bad first impression. It's not a great idea in dating and not a great way to evaluate a baseball player.

By the by, happiness is giving a class an activity that engages them while I get to sit here and post! And I get paid...:)

Seriously, my first post at work and it only took me six months to do it.


I miss this site.

2006-05-02 11:51:48
31.   Bob Timmermann
I sat through "The Forgotten".

I wish I could have forgotten it.

2006-05-02 11:51:58
32.   Sam DC
Paging Roy Roemer, paging Roy Roemer . . .

Anyhow, everyone's favorite subject (from washpost chat w/Os' beat writer Jorge Arangure, Jr.:

Rockville, Md.: What seems to be the problem with the O's bullpen? They don't seem to be able to make an appearance without at least one of the relivers giving up a run. I am sure Leo Mazzone must be the most frustrated person out of anybody on that team, since they keep shuffling guys in and out of there.

Jorge Arangure Jr.: Steve Stone made a great point in today's White Sox vs. Indians game. He said that that middle relievers are the only players on the field who basically "earn" their spots on the roster through failure. He pointed to the fact that most middle relievers are failed starters or failed set up men or closers who just get sent to the bullpen. He makes a good point. The problem with these guys is that they are forced to pitch in important situation because Baltimore's starting pitching has yet to be able to pitch deep into games.

2006-05-02 11:52:26
33.   Eric Enders
30 In dating, however, going oh-fer your first 10 games may be legitimate reason to worry.
2006-05-02 11:55:21
34.   Zak
33 Well you just need extra base hits to break out of a slump. Once you start getting to second base, things pick up very quickly.
2006-05-02 11:55:29
35.   Sam DC
Follow up to 32, this is just funny:

Give Me Some Hope: Lifetime O's fan now living in D.C. and heading home to B'more for the game tonight. Give me something to be hopeful about. Something positive to watch for. Please?

Jorge Arangure Jr.: I'll be wearing a really cool t-shirt and some diesel jeans.

2006-05-02 11:57:31
36.   Jon Weisman
33 - No, you just need to face a new pitcher.

(Here we go again ...)

2006-05-02 11:58:34
37.   Zak
36 By that logic, and by post 32, it would be advantageous to face a middle reliever.
2006-05-02 11:58:56
38.   Zak
They should be easy.
2006-05-02 11:59:23
39.   das411
31 - SB, maybe you can ask Bob when he will give us those lessons on how to sleep through work!

26 - Rockies.

2006-05-02 12:01:00
40.   das411
* that was 30, sorry.

Anybody want to finish off this 10 pg final paper that is due at 5pm for me?

2006-05-02 12:01:18
41.   Zak
I thought Rockies too, but picked the Reds because of the tougher division and the better record. For what it's worth, I also strongly feel that the Dodgers will end up with a better record than the Rockies... I'm not so sure if they'll end up better than the Reds.
2006-05-02 12:02:52
42.   tjshere
33 Bad advice, Boss. Then I'd have to be the catcher and I just couldn't handle that.
2006-05-02 12:03:09
43.   Sam DC
Looks like Pujols really gets the day off -- he didn't come in with 2 on, 2 out, top of the ninth, tie game.
2006-05-02 12:03:52
44.   Zak
Echh!! 10 page papers... that's a lot of bad memories. I would have never finished college if not for double spacing.
2006-05-02 12:04:36
45.   tjshere
Doh! I meant 36
2006-05-02 12:07:12
46.   Zak
Hey, that's Falkenborg pitching for the Cardinals hitting people left and right. How did he get a job in the MLs. Wait, he is the perfect example of the middle relievers definition above.
2006-05-02 12:12:03
47.   Jon Weisman
Matt Kemp gets featured on BA today:

2006-05-02 12:12:57
48.   Steve
And there it is. Falkenborg with the looping hanging curveball.
2006-05-02 12:16:00
49.   Eric Enders
Jon is smokin' today. He's got the top 3 items in "Hot From the Toaster!"

Usually Bob is the one who does that.

[It's so confusing to me that I initially posted the above in the wrong thread.]

2006-05-02 12:17:11
50.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, some of us have jobs.
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2006-05-02 12:23:39
51.   bigcpa
My company is releasing Next. A little Did you Know?... the director Lee Tamahori was arrested in January for soliciting an undercover male officer to perform a sex act. He was dressed in drag at the time.
2006-05-02 12:28:02
52.   Jon Weisman
50 - That just won't wash, Bob.
2006-05-02 12:36:12
53.   Bob Timmermann

It was worth a try...


Be sure that if you say hello to Jessica Biel on the set, that you double check.

2006-05-02 12:38:15
54.   Vishal
[21] her... acting?
2006-05-02 12:40:47
55.   Bob Timmermann

Yeah.... that's it. Acting!

2006-05-02 12:46:32
56.   Bob Timmermann
The Angels are already down 3-0.

I was surprised to see that the Angels have the lowest team OBP in the majors. They are under .300 OBP as a team.

2006-05-02 12:50:29
57.   Marty
Big, I knew I recognized that name. That was a funny story.
2006-05-02 12:52:23
58.   Humma Kavula
Ah, Lee Tamahori. Once Was Director.
2006-05-02 12:53:32
59.   Bob Timmermann
My statement about the Angels low OBP has cheered them up. Their first two batters have reached!
2006-05-02 12:58:21
60.   fanerman
54, 55
Ah, acting. So that's what they call it these days.
2006-05-02 12:59:06
61.   Uncle Miltie
56- but they have the energy, intestinal fortitude, and scrappiness to make up for it.

How many road games have the Pirates won? They are beating the Cubs 5-0. It looks like Tracy finally decided to play Freddy Sanchez. Jack Wilson just stole a base. Jimbo's playing Tracyball up 5-0.....7-0. Sanchez again.

2006-05-02 13:01:18
62.   Bob Timmermann
The Pirates have one road win so far this season. I believe it was at Philadelphia.

After the Angels got the first two on, the next three (Anderson, Guerrero, Salmon) all made out and Oakland leads 3-0.

2006-05-02 13:04:39
63.   Telemachos
A co-worker of mine is actually acquainances with Jessica Biel... they went to the same university, IIRC. Apparently she's a very nice down-to-earth gal (who happens to be quite hot).
2006-05-02 13:07:57
64.   blue22
Not posting much these days (have a new 2-week old at home, but I know you guys miss me ;-) ), but I just wanted to comment that with all these injuries and ineffective players, it's nice to see the likes of Loney, Ethier, Broxton, Kuo getting a chance over last year's crew of Repko, Edwards, Grabs, and Robles. True, that the group above is more ready for big-league time than at this point last year, but credit Ned for not hesitating to make them plan B.

Now if we could just find some room for Aybar:
"Mr. Gillooly, this is a photo of Ramon Martinez. I don't want to know how it happens, just that it happens."

2006-05-02 13:09:18
65.   fanerman
That's news to me. Congratulations!
2006-05-02 13:11:39
66.   Sam DC
Finley triples then is immediately balked home by Mike Matheny. So obvious.

Best to you and your family Blue22

2006-05-02 13:12:33
67.   Sam DC
66 Don't mind me, Woody Williams pitching on the balk.
2006-05-02 13:15:31
68.   Bob Timmermann

Mike Matheny made Woody Williams balk because he has a presence that regular catchers just don't have.

2006-05-02 13:17:41
69.   Bob Timmermann
Plot outline for "Next" according to IMDB:

A man who can see into his own future has to avoid capture by a government organization and win the love of a woman who will be the mother of his child.

2006-05-02 13:21:15
70.   Marty
If he can see into his own future, and the future shows him being captured, how can he avoid it? It wouldn't be his future then.

If his future-seeing powers don't show him being captured, why should he worry?

2006-05-02 13:22:34
71.   Bob Timmermann
As the movie usher said to Homer when he became briefly intelligent (he had a crayon removed from his brain):

Point out your plot holes elsewhere!

2006-05-02 13:22:50
72.   fanerman
70 - Maybe he can't see very far into the future. Or maybe there's just a plot hole the size of Montana in the movie.
2006-05-02 13:23:26
73.   fanerman
Beaten by 16 seconds. Oh well. I guess when I have a job I can post as fast as I want.
2006-05-02 13:26:37
74.   Marty
Next will probably not be on my must see list. I really don't like Nicolas Cage. I'd rather watch a Tom Cruise movie.
2006-05-02 13:27:02
75.   Humma Kavula
Considering that it's based on a Philip K. Dick story, I would not rule out the possibility that his endeavors to avoid capture are the very things that lead to his capture.

Or, it could be a watered down movie based on a Philip K. Dick story.

2006-05-02 13:30:03
76.   Jon Weisman
64 - Congrats!

63 - "they went to the same university, IIRC."

Illinois-Iowa Regional College? :)

2006-05-02 13:30:49
77.   blue22
65/66 - Thanks. It was the night of the Maddux gem a few weeks back. Made that loss slightly more tolerable.
2006-05-02 13:33:37
78.   Monterey Chris
Isn't it possible for a catcher to be called for a balk?
2006-05-02 13:36:11
79.   Marty
I would think the catcher could cause a balk, but never be called for one.
2006-05-02 13:39:32
80.   Monterey Chris
I found it...if the pitcher pitches while the catcher is not in the catcher's box during an intentional base on balls, then it is a balk.
2006-05-02 13:43:25
81.   Bob Timmermann

Although the pitcher still gets credited with the balk.

2006-05-02 13:44:28
82.   Kayaker7
81 "Credited" or "charged?" ;-)
2006-05-02 13:45:15
83.   Bob Timmermann


2006-05-02 13:46:23
84.   Kayaker7
2006-05-02 13:50:11
85.   thinkblue0
Eithier gets his first start against El Duque.

Something tells me that won't be fun. Can we have them start Carter for the game, so Eithier is guaranteed at least one hit?

2006-05-02 13:52:54
86.   blue22
76 - Thanks Jon. This is #2 for me, both under the age of 2. I may have to give up the comments, and restrict myself to only reading your posts.

Eh, who am I kidding?

2006-05-02 13:58:44
87.   GoBears
64 it's nice to see the likes of Loney, Ethier, Broxton, Kuo getting a chance over last year's crew of Repko, Edwards, Grabs, and Robles.

Um, I'm pretty sure Repko and Robles are still getting a chance. So it's really Loney and Ethier instead of Perez and Choi and Aybar. Which makes it not so nice.

2006-05-02 14:00:40
88.   Xeifrank
Today's Dodger sim is complete. Yesterday the sim had the Dodgers winning 3-1 and they lost 3-2. Close in the scoring department, but this isn't a hand grenade toss. In today's sim the Dodgers struck for two runs in the top of the first inning when Furcal and Lofton led off the game with back to back singles. Later in the inning Nomar walked with two outs and Mueller singled home two. The DBacks got one back in the bottom of the first when E.Byrnes tripled and scored on a two out single by C.Jackson. The score remained 2-1 Dodgers until the bottom of the 7th when catcher J.Estrada clubbed an O.Perez pitch over the CF fence. Broxton came in and relieved O.Perez and pitched a scoreless 8th inning. In the top of the 9th B.Mueller came through once again with a one out triple. Rookie Andre Ethier blooped a single over a drawn in infield and the Dodgers took a 3-2 lead heading into the bottom of the 9th. D.Baez pitched a perfect 9th inning and the Dodgers won 3-2. vr, Xei
WP - O.Perez
LP - O.Hernandez
SV - D.Baez
Hold - J.Broxton
GWRBI: A.Ethier
2006-05-02 14:02:42
89.   Steve
Fight! Fight!
2006-05-02 14:02:50
90.   sanchez101
What the heck happened in the Angel's-A's game, Kendall just charged the mound?
2006-05-02 14:05:40
91.   Marty
Gameday just says on-field delay
2006-05-02 14:05:47
92.   Bob Timmermann
I believe that we should set odds on how many times all of us type Ethier's name as Either tonight.

It's just too easy to misspell. I already misspelled it before I hit "submit".

I'm putting the over/under at 10.

2006-05-02 14:05:51
93.   sanchez101
Swisher holding a de-capped Darin Erstad (his bald head exposed) off the mound should be on the cover of Moneyball II.

You got to hand it to Kendall for taking a big guy like Lackey down.

2006-05-02 14:09:51
94.   Jon Weisman
Is there a well-documented case of animosity between the A's and Angels?
2006-05-02 14:10:41
95.   Telemachos
Juicy details, please, for those of us at work. Did Kendall get Beane-d?
2006-05-02 14:10:48
96.   Eric Enders
90 Kendall charged the mound after a curveball that not only did not hit him, but wasn't all that far inside. At first he had no reaction, but it appears that Lackey may have said something to him, because after a delay of about 5 seconds, he decided out of the blue to charge the mound.

He's looking at a pretty long suspension.

2006-05-02 14:11:06
97.   Steve
The Angels radio announcers believe that Kendall tried to get hit by a curveball, Lackey told Kendall to be a man, and Kendall decided to start the throw down. Scioscia was screaming at the home plate umpire for throwing out Lackey.
2006-05-02 14:11:43
98.   Bob Timmermann

Jason Kendall out for a long time? Oh, how awful for Oakland. I'm sure Ken is weeping now. Weeping.

2006-05-02 14:11:54
99.   Johnson
88 Sounds great, except looks to me from the play-by-play that Broxton got the win (and thus no hold), not Odalis.
2006-05-02 14:13:08
100.   sanchez101
... apparently after an inside pitch (which Kendall didnt have any problem with), Lackey said "lean out and let it hit you" or something along those lines. Then Kendall said, "what, you gotta problem with me," and charged the mound. What a dumb reason to fight.
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2006-05-02 14:15:21
101.   Bob Timmermann

Wars have been started over less.

2006-05-02 14:16:10
102.   sanchez101
96. I think Kendall decided he could do more for the team by getting thrown out than by bouncing into another double play ...
2006-05-02 14:19:20
103.   Sam DC
This is pretty funny on the Shaq/Kobe babies. Stole the link from the LA Times Lakers blog.

2006-05-02 14:23:13
104.   oldbear
Isnt Lackey both much bigger and much younger than Kendall?

Hopefully Kendall is suspended awhile and the A's bring up Jeremy Brown. Brown's been destroying the PCL.

2006-05-02 14:25:21
105.   Sam DC
Meanwhile, how can Kiko Calero not have been a bandleader in the 40s?
2006-05-02 14:26:36
106.   regfairfield
Kendall didn't take down Lackey. Lackey put Kendall into a headlock and Kendall just sort of grabbed onto him. Jose Molina then pulled Kendall down, taking Lackey with him.
2006-05-02 14:28:43
107.   das411
Ok! The paper is IN, after some inevitable last minute technical difficulties. Will they ever design an ink cartridge that does't run out when I am re-printing the last page of my final??

104 - Isn't [Jeremy Brown] both much bigger and much younger than Kendall?

2006-05-02 14:30:50
108.   Xeifrank
99. Yeah, you're right.

re Kendall: There goes one of my fantasy catchers out with a suspension. But it might actually help my team to have him sit for a while, just like it might help the A's.
vr, Xei

2006-05-02 14:31:35
109.   Telemachos
This is Jeremy Brown of Moneyball fame, I assume?
2006-05-02 14:33:11
110.   regfairfield
The very same.
2006-05-02 14:35:55
111.   oldbear
But it might actually help my team to have him sit for a while, just like it might help the A's.

I have the same problem with Bobby Crosby. I kept in there for far too long. Now he's on the bench until he puts together at least a 1 week hot streak.

2006-05-02 14:39:10
112.   oldbear
Jeremy Brown at AAA- .368/.448/.561

Can he do any worse than Jason Kendall or Melhuse?

2006-05-02 14:41:10
113.   Uncle Miltie
104- while Kendall hasn't hit this year, he's been Yadier Molina like behind the plate and the pitchers love throwing to him. Jeremy Brown can hit, but I've heard that his defense is terrible. What about that guy they drafted out of Fullerton?
2006-05-02 14:49:37
114.   trainwreck
I was over at and was shocked to see Guzman has 5 walks. How did that happen. Did he get beaned three times?
2006-05-02 14:53:32
115.   trainwreck
I am getting my hopes up again on Greg Miller.
2006-05-02 14:55:50
116.   trainwreck
If you turn to ESPN 2 right now you can watch Mr. Kotter go for a WSOP bracelet.

Up your nose with a rubber hose and two aces!

2006-05-02 14:57:19
117.   natepurcell

its great that BA is showing some love to matt kemp. He has a 16 game hitting streak!

this guy is progressing into a monster. and from all reports ive read, his defense has been very solid in center as well.

guzman has walked 5x before his 100ab, he passes my ultimatum test. he can stay i guess.

2006-05-02 15:01:33
118.   Zak
That Kobe-Shaq story is hilarious. The only thing missing is the quote from Mearah O'Neal when she refers to herself as "The Big Diaperina".
2006-05-02 15:01:43
119.   Suffering Bruin
Click on the LA Times website. Click on "Dodgers" when you get to the sports section.

Who's picture do you see?

Just now... I saw the man OPSing a thousand.

2006-05-02 15:05:46
120.   trainwreck
I have been sick for the past 5 days so I have no idea if anyone has posted this, but here is Stephen Colbert at the White House Correspondence Dinner.

This is so damn funny and Colbert has got some brass balls.

2006-05-02 15:10:43
121.   Jon Weisman
119 - Weird.

Lofton:Drew :: Dodgers:Padres

2006-05-02 15:11:33
122.   Marty
119 I sent out a "what's up with that?" email to them.
2006-05-02 15:12:52
123.   Zak
Duaner Sanchez has a 0.00 ERA in 17 innings this season with 14 Ks, 7 H and 6BB. That's not fair.
2006-05-02 15:15:01
124.   Sam DC
119 Well, they were friends, right, and SB, you certainly earned your HSC superfan credentials today!
2006-05-02 15:17:07
125.   Zak
Beltre's OBP is .299, and that is higher than his SLG%. It's DePo's fault.
2006-05-02 15:20:22
126.   Jon Weisman
123 - I would have still taken my chances on the trade for Seo or on trying to convert Sanchez to starting.

2006-05-02 15:21:50
127.   Jon Weisman
Wow, turn away from the Angel game for a second, and ...
2006-05-02 15:24:00
128.   trainwreck
Bootcheck happens
2006-05-02 15:25:08
129.   oldbear
I watched Colbert and I'm not sure if "bombing" is the right word, but he didnt really go over too well.

I'd say his worst "joke" was when he said the all the generals at the Pentagon just sit in a room and push computer buttons. You could have heard a pin drop after that.

I'm not sure how a comedian reacts when they just get silence.

2006-05-02 15:29:06
130.   trainwreck
Colbert probably expected the reaction he got haha. I just want to know who's idea was it to have him speak and if they actually take the Colbert Report seriously.
2006-05-02 15:29:12
131.   Zak
126 I will concede that what I am saying is short-sighted, but so far this year, we have needed Sanchez more than Seo. Also, you pointed out trends in K/BB ratios which show that this might not be a complete fluke for Sanchez and he might be developing into a prime reliever.

I am not arguing that back when the trade was made, this was or was not a chance worth taking. You could and did make a case for it. However, the results so far are not terribly surprising either. Long term, obviously, I hope the trade helps the Dodgers more than it helps the Mets.

2006-05-02 15:37:37
132.   Jon Weisman
131 - Well, we haven't needed Sanchez more than Seo, except in the sense that we need a pitcher with good stats more than a pitcher with bad stats.

So Quinlan is hit by a pitch and Scioscia is ejected, and not the pitcher. Lackey is ejected despite not hitting a batter. Guess the Angels are feeling a little persecuted.

2006-05-02 15:39:01
133.   oldbear
I do like the Colbert report better than Jon Stewart's show.

I thought Jon Stewart did his best work on MTV.

2006-05-02 15:41:58
134.   sanchez101
131. Keep in mind that if it wasnt for Seo, Aaron Sele would be the fifth starter. I dont care if Sanchez turns into Gagne, Seo has already prevented 3 or 4 Sele starts and thats huge. Its not like Ned couldve signed another starter; when you reach into the free agent pool and get Brett Tomko, you dont reach again.
2006-05-02 15:45:33
135.   natepurcell
todays lineup.

biggest suprise is kent batting 6th.

Lofton, CF

Furcal, SS

Garciaparra, 1B

Drew, RF

Kent, 2B

Ethier, LF (big league debut)

Robles, 3B

Navarro, C

Perez, P

2006-05-02 15:47:13
136.   natepurcell
i mean 5th, i cant count.
2006-05-02 15:47:40
137.   Humma Kavula
Looks like 5th.
2006-05-02 15:47:58
138.   Humma Kavula
Redundancy, thy name is Humma Kavula.
2006-05-02 15:48:51
139.   D4P
That's quite a shake up. I'm still trying to figure out why Lucille II made the roster over Robles, given that Robles is the one getting the PT.

Does the Furcal/Lofton flip-flop mean that Furcal is now the designated "bunt Lofton to 2B" guy?

2006-05-02 15:49:46
140.   sanchez101
How does Mueller get a day off before Furcal?
2006-05-02 15:54:06
141.   fanerman
Who is Lucille 2?
2006-05-02 15:56:31
142.   D4P
And why is he on the roster?
2006-05-02 15:57:10
143.   Jon Weisman
140 - Well, Furcal had a day off late last week. The question is why Furcal hasn't had more. I'm operating under the assumption that Furcal is gradually improving physically.
2006-05-02 16:08:12
144.   D4P
The question is why Furcal hasn't had more.

Especially with Super-Sub Ramon Martinez (aka Lucille II) backing him up, ready to help the team whenever and wherever he's needed.

2006-05-02 16:08:55
145.   fanerman
144 - So how did Lucille II acquire his/her name?
2006-05-02 16:13:45
146.   D4P
We probably need a Lucille II FAQ to accompany the HSC version.

Anyway, Lucille II is a character on Arrested Development. We had initially referred to Ramon as "Ramon II," but at some point started using Lucille II instead.

2006-05-02 16:14:54
147.   fanerman
146 - So it's because we already knew of former Dodger pitcher Ramon Martinez? I get it. Clever.
2006-05-02 16:22:15
148.   Uncle Miltie
I'm not a Democrat, but I love the Colbert Report. That was a funny video clip, I can't believe that they let him speak there.

It's about time Grits moved Kent down in the lineup.

2006-05-02 16:34:24
149.   fawnkyj
Actually that isn't a bad lineup
2006-05-02 16:37:04
150.   regfairfield
149 So long as you add the phrase "all things considered" to it.
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2006-05-02 16:37:27
151.   Xeifrank
wow, a new whacky lineup! I re-simmed tonight's game and this time the DBacks won 5-4 as the Dodgers blew a 3-0 lead. The DBacks rallied for 3 runs to take a 5-3 lead in the bottom of the 8th, having their way with Saito and Hamulack. The Dodgers rallied for one run in the top of the 9th and Ethier stranded runners at 2nd and 3rd.
Go Dodgers!
vr, Xei
2006-05-02 16:41:19
152.   Sam DC
Wow -- in Nationals/Mets, with the game tied 1-1, with men on first and second, one out, and the pitcher up trying to bunt the runners over, old friend Daryle Ward (starting in RF today) gets picked off second. Poor Daryle.
2006-05-02 16:41:38
153.   thinkblue0

why are we still having our best OBP guy hitting in front of the guy who is in the biggest slump. That's about ten steps beyond illogical.

If they're going to shuffle it up, just flip flop Kent and Nomar.

2006-05-02 16:41:40
154.   oldbear
When I look at tonight's lineup, I think that JD Drew better not get hurt. I think the team is more dependent on him this year, than they were last.
2006-05-02 16:46:23
155.   Marty
I think Colbert is the funniest thing on TV right now. I have to hand it to him to get up there next to Bush and do that routine. I'd have melted thinking "this isn't working, I gotta get out of here".
2006-05-02 16:47:06
156.   das411
Wow, and ESPN is airing, instead of my Flyers or the other hockey matchup (Carolina v Montreal)....a fishing tournament. FISHING!!
2006-05-02 16:47:54
157.   Marty
I look at that lineup and think I'd rather see Aybar at third than Robles.
2006-05-02 16:48:26
158.   fanerman
157 - You're not alone.
2006-05-02 16:49:50
159.   Uncle Miltie
Kwame Brown has been accused of rape.

Awful timing for the Lakers.

2006-05-02 16:54:21
160.   Jon Weisman
159 - I know what you're trying to say, but it's not like there's really a good time for something like this.
2006-05-02 16:54:44
161.   jasonungar05
Non current Dodger stat of the day for this kid...

Beltre's OBP of .299 is higher than his slugging percentage .274

2006-05-02 16:55:33
162.   Humma Kavula
I don't know if anyone's interested, but I have 4 tickets for Thursday's (May 4) game against the Padres that I can't use. In the loge, in the buy-two-get-two-free section. All I want is what I paid for them: $44.44 total for all four seats, including parking.

e-mail toddhatesspam at yahoo dot com and I'll present details.

2006-05-02 16:56:00
163.   Marty
159 Where did you see that?
2006-05-02 16:58:18
164.   tjshere
Marty -

2006-05-02 16:59:25
165.   Bob Timmermann

ESPN doesn't show NHL games this year. Did you try OLN?

2006-05-02 17:00:16
166.   oldbear
There's a long thread about it on
2006-05-02 17:02:13
167.   Uncle Miltie
160- Well, you know what I mean. Kwame was finally starting to breakout, especially in the playoffs. His defense has been one of the biggest reasons why the Lakers have been so successful in the postseason.

On another note, did they really have to use that picture?

2006-05-02 17:02:41
168.   oldbear
Actually this isnt terrible news for the Lakers. Hopefully Kwame Brown's contract has a 'morals' clause in it, that allows the contract to be voided. He's a waste of cap space.
2006-05-02 17:05:51
169.   Jon Weisman
Sorry - this is an emotional reaction, but you guys are just way, way too pragmatic.
2006-05-02 17:07:04
170.   oldbear
His defense has been one of the biggest reasons why the Lakers have been so successful in the postseason.

No it hasnt. Phoenix has no scoring threats in the post. And Kwame's helpside defense (making others better), isnt very good either. I think people just have such low expectations for Kwame Brown, that whenever he grabs 6 rebounds in a game they think he's doing good. The guy is great waste of cap space, and would be in the NBDL if not for where he was drafted.

2006-05-02 17:10:35
171.   Uncle Miltie
170- he's never going to live up to the hype of being a number 1 pick, but I think he can be a solid contributor. His defense is above average and in the past 2 games, he's collected double-doubles. There's a reason why Shawn Marion hasn't played well in the series and it's not Odom's defense. Kwame brings an inside presence that the Lakers haven't had since Shaq (no, I'm not saying that he's on Shaq's levels).
2006-05-02 17:15:34
172.   oldbear
Pragmatic- relating to matters of fact or practical affairs often to the exclusion of intellectual or artistic matters : practical as opposed to idealistic

Just had to look that one up.

2006-05-02 17:18:01
173.   Jon Weisman
This will be the game chat thread.
2006-05-02 17:20:19
174.   Kayaker7
I can't believe how badly Beltre is sucking. Maybe there is something to that apologist argument that he'd do better in the comfortable confines of LA. He certainly can't do worse.
2006-05-02 17:23:33
175.   natepurcell
kemp picks up a bb in the first inning, extending his on base streak to 20 straight games.
2006-05-02 17:23:41
176.   Jon Weisman
Beltre has a .941 OPS in his past six games. The comeback has begun (maybe?)!
2006-05-02 17:25:33
177.   das411
165 - Can't pay for OLN in the dorms Bob.

RIP 2006 Philadelphia Flyers. can the Lakers activate an extra player if Brown ends up suspended..?

2006-05-02 17:30:24
178.   Kayaker7
176 Yet his OPS is a .573. Well, at least Johjima is picking up the slack.
2006-05-02 17:34:55
179.   Sam DC
Five innings of one-hit ball for Nationals' rookie Michael O'Connor against the Mets. Nationals' fans across the greater DC region wondering how the team will implode tonight.
2006-05-02 17:40:43
180.   Bob Timmermann
Probably depends who does the suspending and for how long.
2006-05-02 17:44:09
181.   Sam DC
The Saga of Daryle Ward continues. He's 1-1 with a double and a BB tonight. Comes up in the sixth with a runner at third and no outs, Mets bring in a lefty, and down he sits for pinch hitter Jose Guillen, who is batting 0 fer a million and two. All makes sense. Poor Daryle.

(Guillen groundout scores the runner.)

2006-05-02 18:15:16
182.   Bob Timmermann
I see that Ward was picked off second by Lo Duca in a confluence of "old friends".
2006-05-02 18:37:00
183.   gpellamjr
What does have against showing the Dodgers television broadcast? I just don't get this. Who would rather listen to those idiots with the Padres and Diamonbacks than to Vin Scully? Did anybody watch during Sunday's game? The way the Padres announcers squelched out cheers with every run made me sick. And the complaining about every call...
2006-05-02 18:39:06
184.   Bob Timmermann
Aren't the Dodgers required to win this game since they've already lost two straight?

Rule of three and all that.

2006-05-02 18:42:38
185.   Vishal
would the rule of three mean that they should lose?
2006-05-02 18:45:53
186.   Linkmeister
Wasn't Eddie Yost (yes, Ned's dad) called "The Incredible Walking Man" because he got so many? Furcal's encroaching on his territory.
2006-05-02 18:46:57
187.   Bob Timmermann
Have you ever looked at Eddie Yost's walk totals?

They were astoundingly high.

And he wasn't a good hitter.

2006-05-02 18:48:13
188.   Bob Timmermann
I don't believe Eddie Yost is Ned Yost's father either.
2006-05-02 18:48:51
189.   sanchez101
Does that count as one of his homeruns?
2006-05-02 18:48:53
190.   natepurcell
i think toycannon is going to win that over/under 800 OPS bet.
2006-05-02 18:50:33
191.   sanchez101
Can we put Kent on the DL?
2006-05-02 18:51:19
192.   Vishal
geez, what was drew thinking?
2006-05-02 18:51:28
193.   Curtis Lowe
These AZ announcers are terrible.
2006-05-02 18:51:48
194.   Vishal
[191] he hit it hard.
2006-05-02 18:52:20
195.   D4P
Hmmm...according to Gameday, Drew got doubled off first on a liner to 3rd. How does THAT happen? Was he running on the pitch or something?
2006-05-02 18:52:36
196.   Linkmeister
188 I'm pretty sure he is/was. I remember Yost the younger when he played for "the Dreaded Portland Beavers" out there against the Islanders, and I remember our newspaper/broadcasters mentioning it more than once.
2006-05-02 18:53:44
197.   Vishal
[195] drew seemed to quit on the play.
2006-05-02 18:54:17
198.   sanchez101
194. injury: being unlucky
2006-05-02 18:57:15
199.   Bob Timmermann
Brewers manager Ned Yost was born Edgar Frederick Yost in 1955 in Eureka.

His bio on has this section:

... his father, Ned, was an All-American football player at Santa Rosa Junior College in California ...

"The Walking Man", Eddie Yost was born as
Edward Frederick Joseph Yost in 1926 in Brooklyn and according to, Eddie Yost went to school at NYU. Although not for very long because he signed with the Senators when he was 18.

2006-05-02 19:00:11
200.   natepurcell
ethier hits it hard!

oh well.

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2006-05-02 19:01:44
201.   Linkmeister
199 Well, I'll blame my mistake on the media, then. ;)
2006-05-02 19:02:47
202.   natepurcell
eric brynes is a complete spazz out there.
2006-05-02 19:03:03
203.   Vishal
the rule of three!
2006-05-02 19:04:36
204.   overkill94
definite bunt situation here ;)
2006-05-02 19:05:40
205.   Vishal
hahahah, the arizona announcer:


so eloquent, those guys.

2006-05-02 19:05:55
206.   natepurcell
hahahaha mark grace.

he is criticizing el duque for throwing a pitch right in the strike zone. so hes like, "i bet if i drew a circle, thats where the pitch is going to be."

so okay, he draws a circle... but the circle is like 5 ft x 5ft.

effin gracie.

2006-05-02 19:06:16
207.   overkill94
Lofton is a triples machine!

and Eric Byrnes is getting a lot of action out there

2006-05-02 19:07:06
208.   natepurcell
and then hes like "yeep, see i was right."
2006-05-02 19:07:53
209.   scareduck
Somebody please tell Ken Arneson that I am sick and tired of logging in. Firefox just crashed. Can't we get this thing to work so that it doesn't have to log you in every time you launch a new browser window?

Great triple by Lofton, BTW.

2006-05-02 19:07:56
210.   Vishal
the experience of eric byrnes diving haphazardly in the outfield is so much more pleasurable when he's on the opposing team.
2006-05-02 19:08:30
211.   sanchez101
perfect night for Ethier to debut
2006-05-02 19:11:29
212.   Underbruin
Great... We're up by 5 runs. The game is a loss now...

Oh, wait, Carter's gone. Nevermind. =P

2006-05-02 19:11:34
213.   natepurcell
i hope this isnt devaju of the game against the braves earlier this year.
2006-05-02 19:12:55
214.   natepurcell
guzman walks again! go guzzie!
2006-05-02 19:13:33
215.   trainwreck
It is so great to be on the other side of Eric Byrnes' blunders.
2006-05-02 19:14:34
216.   trainwreck
Was it four balls to the backstop?
2006-05-02 19:15:18
217.   Underbruin
216 - I think the pitcher just rolled them on the ground from the mound to the plate. No bouncies.
2006-05-02 19:16:50
218.   natepurcell

3-2 count

swinging strike
swinging strike

2006-05-02 19:16:52
219.   natepurcell

3-2 count

swinging strike
swinging strike

2006-05-02 19:17:46
220.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers are halfway to the "modern" record for triples in a game.

The last team with 6 was Detroit back in 1922.

The alltime record for triples in a game is 9. That was in 1894 by Baltimore.

2006-05-02 19:19:01
221.   gpellamjr
Good to hear "Thome" the AZ announcer complaining about the umpires. Is Vin the only announcer left (now that Ross Porter is gone) who is not a homer?
2006-05-02 19:20:14
222.   Underbruin
And a SB by... Greenie?


2006-05-02 19:20:39
223.   Uncle Miltie
I will not criticize K Loft for a while (maybe a week or two).

Anyone else notice how Carl Crawford is now walking at a respectable rate. This was pretty much the only part of his game that was lacking.

2006-05-02 19:22:56
224.   LAT
Man, if Greenie is running on you you know your bad. The only people slower are Jason Phillips and anyone named Monina.
2006-05-02 19:28:05
225.   gpellamjr
I hope he gets to go to the concert. Come on D'backs ownership, please let him go!
2006-05-02 19:28:54
226.   tjshere
Tough at bat for E thie r. Too bad, I'd like to see him make a splash.
2006-05-02 19:31:05
227.   Bob Timmermann
Now that the pressue is on, everyone is spelling the guy's name right.
2006-05-02 19:34:34
228.   tjshere
Even Bob is rattled. He misspelled "pressure".
2006-05-02 19:35:01
229.   Bob Timmermann
The last time the Dodgers had three triples in a game:

Messrs. Deshields, Offerman, and Mondesi.

OK, stop throwing things at me.

2006-05-02 19:36:57
230.   Bob Timmermann
I'm not a big game speller. I don't have veteran spelling presence. I can't go out there without my best spelling stuff and still win the big bees.
2006-05-02 19:37:54
231.   Marty
The trivia question is too easy.
2006-05-02 19:43:50
232.   natepurcell
furcal hits it...kind of far too!
2006-05-02 19:45:07
233.   sanchez101
Arizona's old/bad outfield is a terrible fit for thier ballpark
2006-05-02 19:45:16
234.   Uncle Miltie
Furcal with an extra base hit, wow!
2006-05-02 19:46:03
235.   Linkmeister
230 Somebody needs to light a fire under Bob. Lofton? You busy?
2006-05-02 19:48:15
236.   natepurcell
nomars been walking a ton for nomar.
2006-05-02 19:49:19
237.   scareduck
Charlie Steiner assumes no Sun Devils are listening to his broadcast.

Or within audible distance of the broadcast booth.

Not very wise.

2006-05-02 19:49:33
238.   gpellamjr
235 No, we just need to get guys in here who know how to spell.
2006-05-02 19:49:49
239.   sanchez101
I think Hernandez lost the game for the Lakers ...
2006-05-02 19:50:38
240.   Jon Weisman
Anyone remember last night when I said I had to remember to write about Furcal hitting one 400 feet. Of course, I forgot.

What kind of shot was his double tonight?

2006-05-02 19:52:27
241.   scareduck
240 - a bouncer in the right field corner off the wall, from what Steiner said. Gameday shows it as just left of the right field corner past the turn fair.
2006-05-02 19:53:17
242.   natepurcell
What kind of shot was his double tonight?

line drive one hopper to the right field wall.

2006-05-02 19:58:05
243.   Linkmeister
O/T, but a Sports Illustrated colleague of Jon's is pretty angry about New Orleans:

2006-05-02 20:02:14
244.   gcrl
my fave quote from the broadcast tonight was when thom and grace were discussing ethier and referred to the dodgers' farm system by saying that, based on scouting and what's on paper, "the future of the national league west is in los angeles, arizona, and colorado".

i'm waiting for grace to start talking about slumpbusters...

2006-05-02 20:06:45
245.   Uncle Miltie
244- I was just talking about slumpbusters with a friend yesterday. I didn't know that Grace was the one that created the term (until my friend told me)
2006-05-02 20:08:51
246.   scareduck
243 - I get sick of people like him telling me that "we" aren't doing enough. Get off your fat keister, Mr. King, and grab a roofing nailgun, or pay somebody else to do so. Oh, you don't want to spend any of your own time and money fixing these people's houses? It's called "you, give at the office" without thinking about consequences. Houses built in Malibu Canyon will be exposed to perennial fire damage. Houses built near the waterfront in Gulf Coast states will be exposed to perennial hurricanes. Houses built below sea level next to a big river AND next to the Gulf Coast will be exposed to that risk times two.

Rant over.

2006-05-02 20:08:55
247.   gpellamjr
Alright, let's see if Odalis can give up a hit to the leadoff hitter in the fifth to set up a double play.
2006-05-02 20:09:40
248.   scareduck
246 - FYI we have given a lot of money to Habitat for Humanity to this exact end.
2006-05-02 20:10:53
249.   Gen3Blue
The test of a good offense. Can you continue to score a few runs in the remaining inning-because you will need them.
2006-05-02 20:16:55
250.   Steve
So what was the best part of that play -- Melvin sending up the middle reliever down five, the bunt straight back to the pitcher, the throw to second instead of to third, the fact that the throw almost went into centerfield, or that it all took place in the middle of an Odalis Perez Meltdown(TM)?
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2006-05-02 20:17:23
251.   natepurcell
warm the bullpen.
2006-05-02 20:18:22
252.   natepurcell
our smokejumper is getting loose.
2006-05-02 20:18:40
253.   Jon Weisman
246 - Rob, I don't know Peter King from Adam, but it doesn't even seem like you read the article. First of all, he says he worked on a Habitat project. Second, he's just saying that New Orleans is being forgotten because the press cycle is over, and some are assuming all is well. Which it isn't.

(And third, maybe, you're assuming he doesn't give money to the cause, which seems like an unlikely assumption at this point.)

2006-05-02 20:19:51
254.   natepurcell
there is a fire little. smoke jumpers commence!
2006-05-02 20:20:16
255.   Steve
No, no. Clear the bases, then warm the bullpen.
2006-05-02 20:20:37
256.   sanchez101
Wow, just turned back from the Laker game thinking, could karma let two LA teams win on the same night ...
well, at least Chad Tracy is on my fantasy team!
2006-05-02 20:20:46
257.   D4P
Darn, we almost induced Tracy to kill the rally there.
2006-05-02 20:21:03
258.   natepurcell
oh my god.


2006-05-02 20:21:12
259.   Steve
Do you need a fricking telegram, Grittle? You idiot.
2006-05-02 20:21:40
260.   D4P
Yes! He killed the rally!
2006-05-02 20:21:52
261.   Jon Weisman
Wow, Odalis Perez wasn't satisfied with blowing a 5-0 lead in April. Much less what happened Sunday.
2006-05-02 20:22:32
262.   D4P
Odalis Perez has a higher ERA than El Duque.
2006-05-02 20:23:59
263.   natepurcell
the worse is that odalis had to give it up the ginger no less.
2006-05-02 20:24:14
264.   gpellamjr
There's nothing I love more than the hysterical joy in the voice of the opposition's announcers as the Dodgers blow ridiculous leads game after game.
2006-05-02 20:24:57
265.   Steve
Grittle is capable of such stunning incompetence; I hope Broxton is still warming.
2006-05-02 20:25:14
266.   Jon Weisman
I missed the beginning of the inning. From Gameday, I'm surmising that the walk to Snyder should have been the moment to start warming up a reliever. Agree?
2006-05-02 20:25:14
267.   das411
Chad Tracy hits a grand slam (4) to right field. Jason Grimsley scores. Craig Counsell scores. Eric Byrnes scores.

Wow, is that the Jason Grimsley that stole Albert Belle's corked bats? The one that was traded for some punk reliever named Curt Schilling? He's still in the league??

2006-05-02 20:25:18
268.   LAT
Is any lead safe with htis team.
2006-05-02 20:25:35
269.   Andrew Shimmin
He'll probably get his confidence back after he walks Gonzo, right?
2006-05-02 20:26:12
270.   Steve
This is possibly the only time that I've ever seen a manager manage a pitcher to get a loss.
2006-05-02 20:26:39
271.   D4P
Odalis just isn't getting enough run support.
2006-05-02 20:26:49
272.   ninjavshippo
wow, the wheels are really coming off now.
2006-05-02 20:27:05
273.   D4P
Putting him in a position to fail...?
2006-05-02 20:28:25
274.   natepurcell
Gracie is infatuated with the girth of broxton.
2006-05-02 20:28:36
275.   Steve
By the way, that's my trademark and my royalties. reg, I like you, I like your site, we're allies in the war against ignorance, but Odalis Perez is terrible.
2006-05-02 20:30:39
276.   Nate Maxwell
Wow. After the Braves game was over, I saw on the ESPN scoreboard that the Dodgers were winning 6-0 and I thought to myself, "The guys over at Dodger Thoughts will be happy." Then I came over to read the comments and by the time I get to the end, this happened. That's just painful. I'm sorry guys. I'm rooting for them to pull it out.
2006-05-02 20:31:03
277.   sanchez101
nice Lofton
2006-05-02 20:31:16
278.   natepurcell
way to go kenny.
2006-05-02 20:31:19
279.   Andrew Shimmin
Sorry Bob, but Lofton should get three errors for that.
2006-05-02 20:31:33
280.   Uncle Miltie
Only Odalis Perez could blow a 6-0 lead. Is there any chance that K Loft lit a fire under the Diamonbacks' hitters?
2006-05-02 20:32:38
281.   LAT
You can't buy defensive talent like that just anywhere.
2006-05-02 20:32:55
282.   Uncle Miltie
I posted that before the hit. I'm guessing that K Loft dove and the ball got past him?
2006-05-02 20:33:18
283.   Nate Maxwell
280. Maybe he can't control the direction of the inspiration field and sometimes it just spreads to the other dugout. Like radiation.
2006-05-02 20:33:22
284.   Telemachos
278, 279 I take it Jackson doubled to deep center, Gonzales scored doesn't quite do the play justice?
2006-05-02 20:33:28
285.   Andrew Shimmin
280- Clearly a case of second hand smoke.
2006-05-02 20:34:02
286.   natepurcell
that was very veteranish of lofton. he was showing repko how not to track a fly ball.
2006-05-02 20:34:05
287.   Steve
282 -- It was quite a bit worse than that, you might want to find a basketball game to watch.
2006-05-02 20:34:15
288.   xaphor
A sign of how bad things are going. I'm starting to feel sorry for Ned.
2006-05-02 20:34:45
289.   Uncle Miltie
So what did K Loft actually do?
2006-05-02 20:34:52
290.   ninjavshippo
so with no-necks walk of greenie there, they've officially batted around, right? nice.
2006-05-02 20:34:57
291.   Nate Maxwell
285 That was much better than my metaphor.
2006-05-02 20:35:13
292.   natepurcell
guzmans having a greak game,
2-4, bb hr
2006-05-02 20:35:28
293.   Gen3Blue
A fascinating psychological phenomena(from the Gods Must be Crazy. This is a losing mentality! It takes a team that feels its talent or management can't win. Watch how the offense, having taken the lead, can't generate anything more, even though several innings remain. And once overtaken, any pitchers put in will have no control or choke. This is very hard to brake. A pitcher like Gagne, or an offensive player who still produces when most feel they are losers can brake this cycle. But only a very good manager can change this situation.
I'm afraid we are in for another season unless someone really steps up.
At least it is interesting to watch.
2006-05-02 20:36:27
294.   Steve
Jackson hit a hard line drive that Lofton ran in on -- the problem was that he needed to run back on it.
2006-05-02 20:36:30
295.   ninjavshippo
i'm not sure i'd use the word "interesting" G3B. how about spirit crushing?
2006-05-02 20:36:49
296.   natepurcell
broxton looks like elvis from the neck up with those sideburns.
2006-05-02 20:37:09
297.   Bob Timmermann
Jason Repko would have broken in two different directions on Jackson's double.
2006-05-02 20:37:13
298.   sanchez101
292. nice to see the homerun tonite, along with walks the last couple games ...
2006-05-02 20:37:19
299.   Uncle Miltie
We're in trouble. The Diamonbacks don't have any great hitters, so I don't know if Broxton will be able to get anybody out.
2006-05-02 20:38:02
300.   ninjavshippo
is it possible for a pitcher to be scrappy? i wonder if we could get eckstein and convert him into a relief pitcher...
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2006-05-02 20:39:52
301.   sanchez101
293. I wonder what a good manager is like?
2006-05-02 20:40:10
302.   Bob Timmermann
It would be weird if Snyder reaches because then in the inning, the long reliever (Grimsley) would have batted and then the inning would have gone long enough for him to be hit for.
2006-05-02 20:40:50
303.   natepurcell
russ martin hits first homer of the year.
2006-05-02 20:40:54
304.   xaphor
[293] "At least it is interesting to watch."

It's like living Salomon Torres reoccurring nightmares.

2006-05-02 20:41:19
305.   Steve
Who wouldn't want to bring in Joe Beimel here? Makes sense to me.
2006-05-02 20:41:38
306.   Uncle Miltie
Let's hope the Diamonbacks pinch hit with Tony Clark (1.000+ OPS last season). That's Broxton's only chance of getting out of the inning.
2006-05-02 20:41:38
307.   ninjavshippo
hey nate, kind of a sidebar, but where do you follow 51s games? just on a gamecast?
2006-05-02 20:42:03
308.   natepurcell
okay guzman didnt homer, gameday lied to me. they changed it to martin.
2006-05-02 20:42:28
309.   natepurcell
yea just on gameday.
2006-05-02 20:42:34
310.   Bob Timmermann
If Davanon goes deep, it would be the seventh time a team would have two grand slams in an inning.
2006-05-02 20:43:24
311.   jasonungar05
2006-05-02 20:44:11
312.   natepurcell
okay gameday lied again, martin didnt homer. what the heck is going on.
2006-05-02 20:44:12
313.   ninjavshippo
311 - i'm glad i'm not the only one dual-refreshing while i'm supposed to be studying :)
2006-05-02 20:44:46
314.   LAT
That was one hell of a long inning
2006-05-02 20:46:19
315.   natepurcell
ethier's going to tie it up this inning.
2006-05-02 20:46:27
316.   Steve
11 years to the day since Hideo Nomo's debut. Those really were good times. No sarcasm necessary.
2006-05-02 20:46:55
317.   Steve
"Double technical on R. Bell" must have been fun.
2006-05-02 20:47:14
318.   D4P
Is that even possible?
2006-05-02 20:47:40
319.   natepurcell
lol, that inning was so long that i forgot who was coming up. oops.
2006-05-02 20:48:47
320.   dzzrtRatt
Good Lord. Just checked Gameday and...

Is it the Dodgers' mission to be a morale-booster for every team in the National League this season? They're all going to think they're the 2004 Boston Red Sox.

2006-05-02 20:49:18
321.   Bob Timmermann

That was a technical on Bell and one on Bryant.

2006-05-02 20:49:27
322.   natepurcell
turiaf brings the energy.
2006-05-02 20:49:43
323.   jasonungar05
turiaf (again)!
2006-05-02 20:49:54
324.   Uncle Miltie
What was the point of the double switch with 4 innings left? That was a completely pointless move by Grits.
2006-05-02 20:50:19
325.   Steve
Lucille II rises to the occasion, just as she did on AD.

Lofton, get the bat on your shoulder.

2006-05-02 20:51:17
326.   sanchez101
315. you mean next inning
2006-05-02 20:51:26
327.   Uncle Miltie
K Loft stinks!
2006-05-02 20:52:25
328.   ninjavshippo
weak sauce, lofton. weak sauce.
2006-05-02 20:53:55
329.   Uncle Miltie
Furcal is good at walking.
2006-05-02 20:54:28
330.   Steve
Lofton, get the bat on your shoulder.
2006-05-02 20:54:40
331.   Sam DC
err, I just don't even know what to say. soulcrushing dp ball there by lofton, not to say that play is the issue.
2006-05-02 20:55:13
332.   jasonungar05
I cant bear to bring myself to talk about the dodgers.

This Turiaf guy had open heart surgery for gods sake less than 9 months ago and is a rookie playing in a series clinching playoff game for the lakers. That's so improbable. Heck if Turiaf makes a few more free throws, he will have outscored Kobe at the half. Even more improabable

Meanwhile I have to watch Odalis earn 300k a start to crap himself. I can't think of a year in the last 30 (I am 35) where I was so uniterested with the Dodgers. I mean I love them, but they are really testing me this year and it's May 2.

2006-05-02 20:56:05
333.   Steve
Tell us a Jim Bowden story. That always improves the mood.
2006-05-02 20:56:31
334.   ninjavshippo
why would anyone walk furcal? JW's post on this must be a classified dossier or something, because if opposing pitchers were smart, they'd throw the guy strikes.
2006-05-02 20:57:27
335.   D4P
I can't think of a year in the last 30 (I am 35) where I was so uniterested with the Dodgers.

Really? Uninteresting years have been the norm for me for quite some time now.

2006-05-02 20:58:26
336.   jasonungar05
333 LOL for real. I know it's cute to say lol and its really a smirk, but seriously 333 is exactly what I needed!
2006-05-02 20:59:30
337.   Gen3Blue
A team that scores 6 runs in the first half of a game could score that many in the second half. But if I'm right about the psych thats building here, they will behave and roll over now.
This is not the atmosphere you want to bring prospects into, although a rare few can cut through this.
2006-05-02 20:59:49
338.   Steve
It's interesting to see Plaschke studiously ignoring it.
2006-05-02 21:00:43
339.   Steve
That had to be a balk.
2006-05-02 21:01:29
340.   Marty
That looked like a balk to me.
2006-05-02 21:01:47
341.   Steve
Beimel has a heck of move -- the "Don't Deliver The Ball To The Plate" Move. Nice.
2006-05-02 21:03:51
342.   jasonungar05

Yeah I know that..but this year, I don't know, even worse than normal and obviously there have been very lean years.

It's just that I don't really have any favorite hitters to watch (maybe Drew, but no one else where you say, oh he is up, I gotta watch), no one is outstanding on defense to watch, I can't stand bad pitching and the team seems to lack personality.

Damn, I am a downer. I should shut up now.

2006-05-02 21:05:55
343.   D4P
It's true. At least last year we had Choi to get excited about, though Hee was usually on the bench anyway. It's tough to get excited about Proven Veterans.
2006-05-02 21:06:31
344.   thinkingblue

Odais Perez= Lefty Carter, only paid 8 million more, and unfortunatly, like cancer, he is hard to get rid of.

2006-05-02 21:06:43
345.   Sam DC
No Bowden stories - he's home shivering, wondering if he's going to get the axe. has a slew of stories about the to-be-new Owners for the Nationals up -- major feature pieces, so I guess they're really sure (linked at the The Griddle as well).

My ire is really just locked in on Frank Robinson. I know Gary Majewski is no hero, just a young relief pitcher who had a great season last year and is now being just savaged by his manager. See the story at if you're interested. Quotes like "This is not a threat, but . . ."

2006-05-02 21:07:34
346.   sanchez101
337. I dont see how you can blame the offense when the team is down 7-6. Without the offense this is a blowout, right now the team is still in the game. The problem is that Odalis collapsed and Grady wasnt paying attention, solve that and this is a blowout victory.
2006-05-02 21:07:38
347.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers and Angels are being saved in the local newspapers thanks to the good deeds being performed by the residents of Staples Center.

If there's a Clippers-Lakers playoff series, JD Drew and Jeff Kent could go on a 3-city thrill killing murder spree and nobody will notice.

2006-05-02 21:07:47
348.   thinkingblue

Who cares, we got away with it, and it is high time for us to get a break.

2006-05-02 21:08:30
349.   Andrew Shimmin
342- And sit down. 8^)
2006-05-02 21:09:28
350.   Gen3Blue
That inning was so long I almost hit the liquor supply, although I suspect I will need it later. This is truly becoming a year when Dodger Thoughts is the only thing that will keep me sane.
It may be better to pile up all the prospects at LV and bring them up altogether. This is far from ideal, but better than exposing them to a losing mentality.
I hope we turn it around with 3 clutch wins and I look like a fool.
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2006-05-02 21:10:27
351.   Steve
kinder; gentler; kinder; gentler; kinder; gentler
2006-05-02 21:10:43
352.   natepurcell
cant catch that one green!
2006-05-02 21:11:17
353.   Steve
I don't quite think Perez is off the hook, but I get what Vin's saying.
2006-05-02 21:11:38
354.   sanchez101
342. are you liking Drew a little bit more?
2006-05-02 21:11:57
355.   Sam DC
347 Of course, no one notices when Drew plays well regardless . . .
2006-05-02 21:12:01
356.   ninjavshippo
and drew pulls all of Dodger Thoughts from the ledge.. ;)
2006-05-02 21:12:39
357.   scareduck
293 - A fascinating psychological phenomena(from the Gods Must be Crazy. This is a losing mentality! It takes a team that feels its talent or management can't win. Watch how the offense, having taken the lead, can't generate anything more, even though several innings remain. And once overtaken, any pitchers put in will have no control or choke. This is very hard to brake.

Looks like Drew hit the brakes on that.

2006-05-02 21:13:11
358.   Gen3Blue
346 you have a point. there goes Drew.
And I love being wrong. But its subtle when the offense does nothing when its needed.
2006-05-02 21:14:36
359.   D4P
Is "Eee-thee-er" the correct pronunciation of "Ethier"?
2006-05-02 21:14:58
360.   Uncle Miltie
David Johnathon! Best Dodgers hitter since Sheffield. Now if only Kent can go down, then the Dodgers would be forced to call up Aybar.
2006-05-02 21:15:39
361.   Inside Baseball
Andre the Dodger!!
2006-05-02 21:15:50
362.   scareduck
A beautiful thing.
2006-05-02 21:16:18
363.   Steve
Project Ethier begins!
2006-05-02 21:16:45
364.   D4P
What is the objective of said project?
2006-05-02 21:16:56
365.   natepurcell
why saenz? why not mueller?
2006-05-02 21:17:47
366.   DodgerHobbit
Lance Carter never really went down to Vegas...he just possessed Odalais Perez.
2006-05-02 21:18:20
367.   ninjavshippo
i was thinking the same thing nate.
2006-05-02 21:18:22
368.   Bob Timmermann
So is Andre Ethier the counterpoint to Howie Kendrick when it comes to names?
2006-05-02 21:18:42
369.   Steve
Get Cruz DFAed.
2006-05-02 21:18:58
370.   underdog
Go Andre!

I'm really liking the way the Dodgers are shuffling things around this week (been too busy to chime in 'til now) - granted Ethier came up because of Ledee being hurt, but all the call ups and line up shuffles and such, makes me respect Little and Colletti more.

Now if they can get the lead and then ((gasp)) hold it...

2006-05-02 21:19:23
371.   xaphor
Ethier: to have more ether. Congrats to the lad.
2006-05-02 21:19:36
372.   underdog
Oh and, calling up Billingsley to replace Perez would be my next move, but they're not quite that gutty - yet.
2006-05-02 21:19:57
373.   Bob Timmermann

So the Dodgers are afflicted by the same evil spirit that was bothering people in the movie "Fallen"?

"Tiiimmmeee... is on my side..."

2006-05-02 21:20:47
374.   Uncle Miltie
369- no, we can keep him as a pinch hitter. My Jeff Kent for Jose Vidro proposal is looking pretty good right now.
2006-05-02 21:21:19
375.   ninjavshippo
372 - but then no starting LHP in lineup. or maybe that doesn't matter at this point...
2006-05-02 21:24:07
376.   underdog
Doesn't matter at this point... (No, it's a good point, but still the erratic way OP is pitching I don't know what the difference is.) I think it's too early to give up on Seo though.
2006-05-02 21:28:33
377.   Steve
Better than Nate's Jeff Kent for Lastings Milledge proposal is looking.
2006-05-02 21:28:50
378.   Marty
Well, if nothing else, LAT's daughter should be happy. Good for her.
2006-05-02 21:29:50
379.   D4P
Regardless, the point stands: Kent must go.
2006-05-02 21:30:45
380.   ninjavshippo
379 - batting below the mendoza line, who would take him?
2006-05-02 21:30:51
381.   Marty
That sounds like the Sopranos family talking about Vito. "He's gotta go!"
2006-05-02 21:31:21
382.   Steve
Miltie's ongoing feud with Jeff Kent is one of the daily highlights of DT. If Kent goes, that goes, and that is simply unacceptable.
2006-05-02 21:31:43
383.   ninjavshippo
time to get a K here, saito.
2006-05-02 21:33:36
384.   Uncle Miltie
I'm going to hire D4P to pull a Tonya Harding on Kent and then Ned will be forced to call up Walking Willy.
2006-05-02 21:33:43
385.   Marty
That was a nice pitch.
2006-05-02 21:33:48
386.   Steve
That pitch was nasty. That must be a gyroball.
2006-05-02 21:34:26
387.   D4P
I like the idea, but I'm a lover, not a fighter.
2006-05-02 21:35:33
388.   Uncle Miltie
Kent for O Dog?
2006-05-02 21:36:02
389.   ninjavshippo
386- steve! i am officially OBSESSED with the gyroball. don't get me worked up. it's late.
2006-05-02 21:36:04
390.   natepurcell
legend of the gryoball grows.
2006-05-02 21:36:22
391.   Steve
That 1-2 pitch was nasty too.
2006-05-02 21:36:23
392.   Bob Timmermann

Saito would have to throw about 10 mph faster to be able to throw the mythical gyroball.

2006-05-02 21:37:06
393.   Steve
All that said, please don't walk Hudson.
2006-05-02 21:38:21
394.   Steve
Yeah, I think it was really a "Chris Snyder Was Looking For A Fast" ball
2006-05-02 21:39:24
395.   Uncle Miltie
Why did Saito walk O Dog?

Time for rat face to hit a grandslam.

2006-05-02 21:39:46
396.   ninjavshippo
not to digress too much, but in reading about the gyro, i read somewhere that the last "new" pitch was the split-finger fastball. please forgive my noobness. i've wondered for a while, if a splitter is kind of like a diving fastball, what's the difference between a splitter and a sinker? does a splitter come faster?
2006-05-02 21:41:24
397.   ninjavshippo
2nd digression: the lakers are getting the lumber taken to them. down 21 with 3 to go in the 3rd quarter in PHX.
2006-05-02 21:42:05
398.   D4P
In play, run-scoring play.
2006-05-02 21:42:13
399.   Uncle Miltie
Run scoring play....
2006-05-02 21:42:34
400.   natepurcell
you hold a splitter and a 2seamer differently.
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2006-05-02 21:42:58
401.   Steve
Hi Grady!
2006-05-02 21:42:59
402.   D4P
In play, run-scoring play.
2006-05-02 21:43:43
403.   sanchez101
How many times have the Dback's seen Saito? Perhaps he's been overexposed.
2006-05-02 21:43:48
404.   ninjavshippo
oh boy. i hope saito isn't turning into this year's wunsch before our very eyes.
2006-05-02 21:43:52
405.   Steve
It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios!
2006-05-02 21:44:56
406.   Marty
Grady should just take the mound for all the good the rest of the pen will do for this game.
2006-05-02 21:45:02
407.   Uncle Miltie
How many inherited runners has Hamulack allowed to score?
2006-05-02 21:45:15
408.   ninjavshippo
why go to hamulack here when chad tracy bangs LHP to the tune of .375?
2006-05-02 21:45:20
409.   Bob Timmermann
"The rare day Saito was not sharp"

There have been enough days of seeing Saito for us to tell that?

And did the Dodgers really rue the day they got rid of Craig Counsell. He was pretty bad during his brief stay in L.A. He's only had 3 seasons with an OPS+ over 100.

2006-05-02 21:46:37
410.   Steve
Far too many games lately carry the death stench of 2005.
2006-05-02 21:46:41
411.   oldbear
I wonder if Kobe will stick with the passive, get everyone involved Kobe for Game 6...or go back to the agressive, go for 50 Kobe.
2006-05-02 21:46:45
412.   xaphor
[405] Putting the first base conversation to shame.
2006-05-02 21:49:04
413.   LAT
The only thing worse than watching this game is watching the game while sitting on the phone with Dell customer support being "helped" (if you can call it that) by an guy in India who's english is marginal and who's politeness is really starting to piss me off.
2006-05-02 21:50:33
414.   LAT
410. Very well put.
2006-05-02 21:51:16
415.   Bob Timmermann
That could have been the Dodgers fourth triple!
2006-05-02 21:52:54
416.   trainwreck
All this Laker conspiracy talk has had an effect on the referees.
2006-05-02 21:54:04
417.   natepurcell
oh my god.
2006-05-02 21:54:44
418.   D4P
"Old Friend" Shawn strikes again.
2006-05-02 21:55:08
419.   sanchez101
wow, Furcal almost killed this rally
2006-05-02 21:55:20
420.   xaphor
Shawn embellished that one a tad.
2006-05-02 21:55:21
421.   Uncle Miltie
416- they have to make up for last game. It looks like both games were fixed.

Non productive outs by Lofton. Somebody needs to teach him how to make productive outs.

2006-05-02 21:55:50
422.   underdog


Thank you Shawn Green.

And Thank YOU Charlie Steiner for making me wet my pants for 5 seconds before informing me what had happened.


Tonight's one of those nights where I just hate sports.

2006-05-02 21:57:03
423.   D4P
If Shawn is not careful, Dodger fans are going to start booing him...
2006-05-02 21:57:04
424.   Bob Timmermann
But what about The Rule of Three?

I thought it was inviolable?

2006-05-02 21:57:11
425.   trainwreck
I do not get too upset with the Dodgers losing, because I have always been looking forward to 07.

I do get upset with Little's decision making because that is going to effect us past this season.

2006-05-02 21:57:15
426.   LAT
OK,that Green guy is really starting to piss me off
2006-05-02 21:57:42
427.   Uncle Miltie
What did Green do?
2006-05-02 21:57:43
428.   Marty
On first look, it seemed that ball maybe would not go out.
2006-05-02 21:57:49
429.   LAT
And now Dell disconnects me. AUGH!!!!!
2006-05-02 21:58:08
430.   das411
411 - This is Kobe we're talking about. That's like asking if Jeter will turn on his clutch switch or not!

Hey Steve....terrific news!!

2006-05-02 21:58:10
431.   Bob Timmermann

He made a little boy lose faith in democracy.

2006-05-02 21:58:37
432.   Marty
Shawn of the Dead.
2006-05-02 22:00:15
433.   D4P
Has it been pointed out that Pittsburgh got its 2nd road victory of the season today?
2006-05-02 22:00:19
434.   LAT
Yeah, Marty, she's happy, a little too happy. I think its time for her to go to bed.
2006-05-02 22:00:46
435.   Shmueli4
Anyone else watching this game on MLB Xtra? Grace is horrible! The 2 of them together calling THIS game is like watching a twisted version of the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
2006-05-02 22:01:16
436.   Shmueli4
Anyone else watching this game on MLB Xtra? Grace is horrible! The 2 of them together calling THIS game is like watching a twisted version of the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
2006-05-02 22:02:42
437.   D4P
In play, run-scoring play
2006-05-02 22:02:44
438.   natepurcell
raja bell got a little angry there...
2006-05-02 22:03:27
439.   D4P
Cycle Alert: Code (Yellow...?)
2006-05-02 22:03:45
440.   oldbear
The last game wasnt fixed. This game isnt fixed either. The Lakers are just getting completely run. Phoenix finally started making some of the wide open shots they had been missing earlier in the series.

Phoenix game plan is simple. The Lakers switch everything on defense. Inevitably, Smush gets caught on the post guarding Diaw or Thomas. Or Odom/Kwame get stuck on the perimeter guarding Nash. The Suns have finally figured that out tonite.

I'm not sure if the Lakers should switch everything in Game 6. Maybe play more straight up. For the Suns, I'm still not sure why they are doubling Odom ( I can understand doubling Kobe), everytime he gets the ball. Odom taking a contested shot is better for the Suns, than Cook/Brown getting wide open dunks or jumpers.

I'm not sure who's gonna win game 6.

2006-05-02 22:03:52
441.   natepurcell
that was so uncalled for. i hope bell gets suspended.
2006-05-02 22:04:17
442.   trainwreck
Kobe's mad.
2006-05-02 22:06:40
443.   xaphor
Three balls deep to the outfield? Furcal is reminding me of Willy Mays Hayes in ML 2.
2006-05-02 22:06:43
444.   Bob Timmermann
There was no Cycle Alert issued.

Stand down.

Stand down.

2006-05-02 22:07:31
445.   natepurcell
if bells gets suspended for the next game, lakers will win.
2006-05-02 22:08:38
446.   trainwreck
This is the first game all over again. Nothing Lakers can do if Suns are not going to miss.
2006-05-02 22:08:40
447.   Steve
Boston Legal tonight is like Old Home Week.
2006-05-02 22:09:05
448.   underdog
422 I meant to be more specific up there; tonight's one of those nights where I hate Arizona sports teams. Frickin' Phoenix... mutter... Raja Bell... mutter... Shawn Green... mumble...
2006-05-02 22:09:54
449.   natepurcell
drew is too good.
2006-05-02 22:10:10
450.   LAT
We are being visited by the curse of Lance Carter
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2006-05-02 22:11:54
451.   Uncle Miltie
DJ is pretty good. BOO Kent
2006-05-02 22:12:13
452.   natepurcell
the suns strategy for guarding kwame is to flop everytime.
2006-05-02 22:13:03
453.   Steve
Kent wasn't swinging 3-0 was he?
2006-05-02 22:13:28
454.   trainwreck
Raja better be suspended for the next game.
2006-05-02 22:13:49
455.   underdog
448 Addendum to myself again: It's also one of those nights when I really like JD Drew.

My cat also just made an appropriate comment in the litterbox about tonight's games.

2006-05-02 22:14:18
456.   Bob Timmermann
The times are a changin'

The widow of Philo T. Farnsworth, one of the earlier developers of TV (no one person invented TV), passed away last week at age 98.

2006-05-02 22:14:55
457.   underdog
Ethier did what Kent should have done.
2006-05-02 22:15:42
458.   D4P
no one person invented TV

Unlike the internet...

2006-05-02 22:15:49
459.   Steve
456 -- Utahns will argue differently, Bob. Your position will cause you difficulties should you ever pass through the state. Just a friendly warning!
2006-05-02 22:16:04
460.   trainwreck
Farnsworth is usually credited with inventing TV. It went through so many stages and people, but he got the patent.
2006-05-02 22:16:07
461.   LAT
One week ago (April 24) Shawn Green's average was .203. After tonight its .319.

I don't point this out for Green's sake but to demonstrate to those people calling for Kent's head how fast it can turn around.

2006-05-02 22:16:58
462.   underdog
Sigh. Up to Navarro. Welp, Good night everyone!
2006-05-02 22:17:13
463.   underdog
... Or Alomar.
2006-05-02 22:17:38
464.   Marty
I remember Philco TVs.
2006-05-02 22:18:09
465.   Uncle Miltie
I hope Alomar strikes out
2006-05-02 22:18:11
466.   underdog
461 Exactly right. I'm pretty confident it will turn around. He's been hitting the ball a lot better the last few days.
2006-05-02 22:18:40
467.   underdog
465 That's the spirit!
2006-05-02 22:18:49
468.   D4P
Calls for Kent's head are not a function of his BA.
2006-05-02 22:19:23
469.   Bob Timmermann

Philo T. Farnsworth got A patent. No one has THE patent on television.

And to think that one guy came up with the idea of TV and developed it soley on his own is not possible.

I've been paid off by the Sarnoff family.

2006-05-02 22:19:24
470.   LAT
Fact: When Sandy Alomar Jr. comes to the plate as your only hope your manager has mismanaged the game
2006-05-02 22:19:40
471.   underdog
What are they a function of?
2006-05-02 22:20:16
472.   Steve
Grittle had Alomar bat for Navarro?
2006-05-02 22:20:28
473.   underdog
Fact: When your bullpen continues to implode, your bullpen has mismanaged the game.
2006-05-02 22:20:42
474.   Uncle Miltie
Kent is almost 40 years old. He is not going to turn it around. He'll finish the year hitting .260-.270 at best with a few home runs (maybe 15).
2006-05-02 22:21:51
475.   natepurcell
What are they a function of?

uncle miltie and d4p just dont like kent and dog him every chance they get.

2006-05-02 22:22:06
476.   Steve
Jon Huntsman is signing the warrant right now.
2006-05-02 22:22:50
477.   trainwreck
If only I remembered my history of television class better. But, I know we learned Farnsworth had the most to do with the creation of television.
2006-05-02 22:25:24
478.   LAT
Calls for Kent's head are not a function of his BA.

What then? OPS is irrelevant if he's not hitting. Once he starts hitting we can worry about OPS.

2006-05-02 22:26:34
479.   Steve
478 -- It's personal. Sort of like with me and everybody else.
2006-05-02 22:27:15
480.   natepurcell
steve:jim tracy

d4p/uncle miltie: jeff kent

2006-05-02 22:28:14
481.   Andrew Shimmin
Miltie's hated Kent since The Incident, last year (maybe before). D4P hates Kent (mostly with his tongue in his cheek) for having been a Giant. I hate Kent's contract, but don't blame him for it.
2006-05-02 22:28:31
482.   Bob Timmermann
Farnsworth made considerable contributions to TV, but there were people in Germany and Japan working on TV also.

It was a team effort. Except that nobody on the team liked each other.

2006-05-02 22:29:13
483.   LAT
Kent is almost 40 years old.

By that logic, I guess we wouldn't sign Clemens if we had the chance.

2006-05-02 22:29:16
484.   trainwreck
An English guy almost got the first patent I remember that one for sure.
2006-05-02 22:30:24
485.   trainwreck
Or he might have been a German in England. Oh hell I am not sure anymore.
2006-05-02 22:31:04
486.   LAT
D4P hates Kent (mostly with his tongue in his cheek) for having been a Giant.

In that case, there is a lot to hate on this team.

2006-05-02 22:31:55
487.   Andrew Shimmin
Vin Scully invented television. But, his keen foresight led him to intuit that one day, the show Becker would be invented. So he destroyed his research, hoping to avert tragedy. Sadly, it was not to be.
2006-05-02 22:32:05
488.   natepurcell
i use to get tired of the constant kent bashing from uncle miltie for no reason at all most of the time but they dont bother me anymore.
2006-05-02 22:32:35
489.   trainwreck
Well Kent needs to start taking HGH like Clemens too.
2006-05-02 22:32:41
490.   Marty
Except that nobody on the team liked each other.

Starting a hallowed tradition in the television industry.

2006-05-02 22:33:08
491.   Louis in SF
Some help from my fellow bloggers. I left work and the Dodgers were up 6-0 in the 4th. Apparently I hit the off button at the right time, because Odalis fell apart-7 runs...Was it obvious he was losing it? ... Everyone knew the bullpen was hurting, but this strikes me as starting pitching. Scoring so many runs with Kent slumping is sad..Must say some of the comments that put the blame at Grady's feet seem misguided. It seems that it is the players letting us down, and Ned is doing the right thing with the call-ups.
2006-05-02 22:33:34
492.   Uncle Miltie
By that logic, I guess we wouldn't sign Clemens if we had the chance.
Steroid users don't count. Kent is aging normally like most people.

By the way, I've hated Kent for a while (way before he was with the Dodgers)

2006-05-02 22:35:24
493.   Marty
I'm sort of like Miltie when it comes to Lofton. I've never liked him.
2006-05-02 22:35:49
494.   trainwreck
I think we all know there are many good reasons to hate Jeff Kent. We did not care last year because he was producing. That is no longer an issue.
2006-05-02 22:36:56
495.   Steve
I like Miltie's Kent blasts because they are clever and in good humor. They remind me of back when I had a soul, and hated Kent too.
2006-05-02 22:38:59
496.   Andrew Shimmin
Kent'll start hitting again. But he probably won't be as good this year as he was last. And he'll probably be worse next year. But, so long as he gets his ABs, next year, we'll get to see him be even worse (still at top dollar) the year after.
2006-05-02 22:39:18
497.   Bob Timmermann
Actually there was a Scottish guy, John Logie Baird, who invented an early form of TV. But it wasn't electronic, but mechanical.

It didn't work too well. Baird and Farnsworth worked together and Baird realized that Farnsworth's electronic system would work better.

2006-05-02 22:41:19
498.   Steve
Are we still leading the National League in important statistics like stolen bases?
2006-05-02 22:41:29
499.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2006-05-02 22:58:05
500.   Underbruin
212 - ... Right, I jinxed it. Oh, wait, no, it's the 2006 Los Angeles Dodgers! (tm).


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