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You Shouldn't
2006-05-03 10:13
by Jon Weisman

Three Things Grady Little Does Right
1) He is not shy about benching underperforming name players and trying promising no-name players.
2) He gives no-name players extended trials in the lineup, rather than yanking them out after one game.
3) For the most part, he is aggressive with his player moves - managing the nine-inning game rather than worrying about having reserves for theoretical extra innings. For the most part ...

* * *

Once upon a time on Taxi, aspiring actor Bobby thinks he has hit it big with his career and gives his boss, taxi cab dispatcher Louie, a glorious kiss-off - only to have to come crawling back for his job when things don't pan out. When Louie hears this, he is dancing with giddiness at how deeply he's going to rub it in on Bobby, salivating at the shame he'll get to inflict.

Alex, the moral center of the show, intervenes before Bobby's return to try to prevent Louie from kicking Bobby while he's down. Louie is incredulous at the request, and asks, out of curiosity, why on earth he wouldn't tee off. Alex is almost at a loss on how to respond, but finally says the only thing he can say:

"You shouldn't."

"I shouldn't?"

"You shouldn't."

Which, of course, is absolutely preposterous in Louie's eyes. Gloriously, transcendently, he mocks Alex for the thought. Louie's eyes are practically spinning like propellers, he is so revved up for Bobby's arrival.

And then Bobby comes in ... and Louie lets him off the hook.

It was a great moment of television. And it was so arfully done, it was believable, too. But to some extent, or at least in some circumstances, it's a fantasy.

It's pretty clear that to some extent, Dodger manager Grady Little holds this fantasy for his starting pitchers. He looks at a situation where a starter should thrive and sees something of a moral imperative for that pitcher to do so. The latest example of this was when Odalis Perez was allowed to give up seven runs in the fifth inning of Tuesday's 10-8 loss to Arizona - four of them on a game-tying grand slam to Chad Tracy.

"(Perez) has to get (Tracy) out in that situation," Little said, according to Tony Jackson in the Daily News. "He's our starting pitcher, and he had been staked to a 6-0 lead in the fifth inning. That's the guy you have to get out. He kept firing ... but it wasn't good enough. There have been too many times this year when we have squandered five-run leads and six-run leads, and it's starting to get old."

There is a reason for holding back on warming up relievers too soon - you don't want to burn them out in the bullpen. And yes, a starting pitcher with a 6-0 lead should be able to get through the fifth inning.

But just because he should go five doesn't mean he can. When a pitcher with the track record for implosion that Perez has gets in trouble, you have to be ready to step in preemptively, just like Alex did with Louie.

With a 6-0 lead, Perez gave a home run, a bunt single and a walk. This didn't put him on the edge of the cliff - especially with pitcher Jason Grimsley coming to bat, but it did put Perez a couple steps away. That's the moment you make a call to the pen and get someone up. (I don't know when Little did so - although news reports indicate it wasn't this soon.)

Perez got an out from Grimsley, then gave up singles to Craig Counsell and Eric Byrnes that made the score 6-2 with the bases loaded and still only one out.

This is the critical moment. And I want to say, there is an argument for keeping Perez in to face Tracy - the odds of a grand slam are low. The argument against keeping Perez in is that there's very little proof that Perez is much of a tightrope walker these days.

Perez gave up the grand slam. Look - it happens. Here's where things get a little crazy, though. Now you're in a brand-new, tie game with about 4 1/2 innings to go - and Little still left Perez in the game to walk go-ahead run Luis Gonzalez. This is where you start to wonder whether Little is managing his starting pitcher with emotion rather than calculation. There was no saving the bullpen now. Seven batters into the inning, what did he think Perez had left? What was the point?

As far as fear of burning out the bullpen goes, you cross that bridge when you come to it. As I've written in the past, the gamble you take in trying to stretch out a starting pitcher to rest your bullpen is that you risk having to work the bullpen even harder. Nothing is more important than putting out that fire - only when you are out of firemen should you tolerate a controlled burn.

In Perez's previous start at Houston on April 26, Little let Perez allow seven runs (six earned) in 4 1/3 innings. In that game, unlike Tuesday night, Perez was in trouble almost his entire start - but Little displayed that high threshold for pain. Why? What does Perez have to do to get an early hook? The Dodger offense scored five runs for Perez last week and eight runs this week - all wasted.

Except in the case of Lance Carter, the Dodger bullpen has been inconsistent - meaning its members have been alternately good and bad. So they don't inspire a high level of trust. Doesn't matter - that's not an excuse to leave a faltering starting pitcher in. It is better to take the chance that you will get a Dodger reliever on one of his good days than continue to use a pitcher who is objectively, visually having a bad day right in front of you.

Despite the length of this critique, I'm not turning on Little. As I said at the top, he's doing some things I really like. The team he is managing has definite weaknesses to go with its strengths, and I don't know how much better than its 12-15 record it should really be. Regarding most of the one-run losses, I don't recall many instances of them turning on a Little decision.

I think the answer here might be for a personnel decision to be made that will sidestep this problem. I don't know if this is being discussed, but I think that depending how Jae Seo does tonight against San Diego, Perez could be a candidate to get at least a temporary demotion to the bullpen. He's had three bad starts to go with three good ones - maybe his next start will make or break his immediate fate. Certainly, because it was former Dodger general manager Paul DePodesta who re-signed Perez as a free agent, there would be no in-house reputations at stake with the move.

Depending on which side of the bed current GM Ned Colletti woke up on that day, the Dodgers would then call up either Aaron Sele or Chad Billingsley - neither of whom would (or should) be on anything but a short leash in their opening starts.

In the absence of that, I am hoping that Little has lost a little patience with underperforming starters, as he had with his ragged batting order.

* * *

About that batting order ...

Ailing shortstop Rafael Furcal has hit two balls to the warning track this week. Not that fly balls are to be his specialty, but I'm thinking there may be a little snap coming back to his bat.

Slumping second baseman Jeff Kent remains a mystery.

With 10 singles, two doubles, four triples, seven walks and six steals without being caught, Kenny Lofton has 39 bases in 66 plate appearances (.591). Count me skeptical that he can keep this up, but he's been good so far. By comparison, J.D. Drew has 66 bases in 108 plate appearances (.611).

Making his major league debut Tuesday, Andre Ethier recovered from an 0 for 3 start (including a double play) with a double and a ninth-inning walk.

Comments (83)
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2006-05-03 10:20:28
1.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, we just want one headline!
2006-05-03 10:33:16
2.   Sam DC
That's for Ask The Copy Editor, Bob.
2006-05-03 10:54:11
3.   Bob Timmermann
My brother was not the copy editor for Jon's one Clippers story he said.
2006-05-03 10:57:30
4.   Jon Weisman
3 - comma should go before "he said."
2006-05-03 11:01:19
5.   GoBears
OT: Interesting mid-season Sopranos review on The Juice blog right now.
2006-05-03 11:03:33
6.   GoBears
I want to comment on Jon's post, but I don't have much to say other than "well put." I like Grady's handling of the "hitters" for the most part, but his handling of the pitchers (not just timing of hook, but ordering of relievers) has been awful and unimaginative, just as advertised.
2006-05-03 11:07:26
7.   oldbear
but I think that depending how Jae Seo does tonight against Arizona,

Dodgers are facing the San Diego Padres tonight.

2006-05-03 11:10:47
8.   Daniel Zappala
To some extent, Little is handcuffed by his selection of the bullpen. He's got a lot of one or two inning arms, and no one to step in and pitch for 4-5 innings, a true long reliever. The Angels have used Kevin Gregg that way in the past, and had him fill in for the struggling Hector Carrasco his first couple starts. If the Dodgers had Sele or Houlton in the pen, it would make it easier to have an early hook.
2006-05-03 11:15:15
9.   Steve
Why did the Times get Cardinals fans to do their Dodger blog?
2006-05-03 11:15:34
10.   Xeifrank
I wonder what Jim from Taxi would do if he were managing the Dodgers?
vr, Xei
2006-05-03 11:18:28
11.   Jon Weisman
7 - oops. Thanks.
2006-05-03 11:20:39
12.   Jon Weisman
8 - I pretty much disagree with that. Maybe if the team had a succession of bad starting pitching outings. For the most part, though, the other four starters have been going six innings.

The bullpen is not tired.

2006-05-03 11:22:59
13.   Sam DC
Except in the case of Lance Carter, the Dodger bullpen has been inconsistent . . . .

LOL - missed that on the first read.

2006-05-03 11:24:50
14.   Daniel Zappala
12 I should clarify. I think having a long reliever makes it easier for a manager to go to the pen in the 5th inning. Instead of using 4 pitchers for one inning each, he can use one pitcher. It's not that the bullpen is tired, but that he is worried about burning through a lot of relievers. You may argue that he shouldn't worry about that, but I think it is a worry some managers have.
2006-05-03 11:26:42
15.   Bob Timmermann
I don't understand that.
2006-05-03 11:30:10
16.   Telemachos
Nice write-up, Jon. I generally agree with all of it.... and against my better judgement, I'm liking Grady overall. Perhaps it is, as you say, his willingness to pop some of our young kids in and give them time to show what they can do.

I didn't watch the appalling 5th inning yesterday, but it certainly sounds like he left in Odalis too long.

Kent, I think, is showing signs of coming out of his hideous slump.... lately he's been more unlucky than not -- hitting the ball hard, but at people. I can't imagine this going on too much further, unless (shudder) there is some sort of injury we don't know about.

2006-05-03 11:32:55
17.   Curtis Lowe
I really liked your post today Jon. Last night I was thinking the same thing about moving Odalis to the bullpen, he hasn't been after the first couple of innings for the last two years. Maybe all the time on the DL zapped his endurance and that combined with his crazy head lead to late inning meltdowns. Maybe he could turn into a Alverez type pitcher for the Dodgers, some long relief maybe some spot starts here or there.
2006-05-03 11:34:02
18.   Jon Weisman
14 - I understood what you meant. I just don't agree it's a valid worry. Short relievers are designed to come back on short rest. Long relievers require longer rest. It all sort of balances out.
2006-05-03 11:44:29
19.   Sam DC
Highlights from "Ask the Copy Editor":

Baileys Crossroads, Va.: "Lay" and "lie" are different words. Even in the sports section, there's no excuse for a paper of The Post's national standing to run stories about people "laying" around waiting for things to happen. Please stop this. Now. Thank you.

Don Podesta: You are absolutely correct, and we should not be making errors like that.

. . .

Fairfax, Va.: Hope I am not too late. Please explain the difference between "more than" and "over" and the proper uses for each. I see over used all the time when I believe more than is the correct phrase Thanks.

Don Podesta: "More than" refers to quantity. "Over" can as well, but since it also means (1) to be physically above a point in space or (2) to be finished (as in "The game is over") "more than" is the better term.


This reasearch led me to realize that the Post also has a chat today on "swimsuit tips" with a fashion editor. This chat consists of (it seems exclusively) women writing in to say, my body is like X, what kind of swimsuit would be best. It makes sort of startling reading.

2006-05-03 11:55:39
20.   OaklandAs
One thing that really annoys me about Grady Little is his love for the double switch. It's one thing to double-switch out Robles or Ramon Martinez, but he should never double switch for Drew or Kent, yet he has already done that at least 3 times this year.
2006-05-03 11:57:11
21.   capdodger
This reasearch led me to realize that the Post also has a chat today on "swimsuit tips" with a fashion editor. This chat consists of (it seems exclusively) women writing in to say, my body is like X, what kind of swimsuit would be best. It makes sort of startling reading.

Why is this chat with the editor, and not with the Pulitzer-winning fashion critic?

2006-05-03 11:57:40
22.   OaklandAs
I also agree that D.J. Houlton would be a useful guy to have in the bullpen. It's handy to have someone you can throw 4 or 5 innings if the starter gets knocked out early.
2006-05-03 11:58:20
23.   Steve
The times has started their dodger blog and it is written by cardinal fans. The times doesn't get it. One blogs because one cares.
2006-05-03 11:59:17
24.   Sam DC
21 Well, I think it's more of a fashion tip thing than a commentary/criticism thing.
2006-05-03 12:01:30
25.   LAT
OP in the pen? He can't handle his own runners, how is he going to deal with inherited runners? There is no way he is mentally tough enough to accept the demotion or deal with a mid-game situation that is not of his making. This isn't to say you keep starting him. I don't know what you do with him, but he can't handle the pen.
2006-05-03 12:01:30
26.   Daniel Zappala
18 Short relievers are designed to come back on short rest, but they also become less effective as they are used more frequently. The nice thing about a long reliever is that he has the ability to give all your short relievers a day off. They mask the effects of a bad outing from the rest of the bullpen. I'm not so sure things would otherwise "balance out" as you say, but I concede I don't have any evidence to offer.
2006-05-03 12:01:31
27.   Curtis Lowe
22- I forgot about DJ. Not David Johnathan just plain ol' DJ Houlton. Who would be sent down?
2006-05-03 12:03:00
28.   Sam DC
They really are Cardinal fans.
2006-05-03 12:03:21
29.   Steve
Nor do they link to jon's or rob's blog, which makes the whole exercise questionable.
2006-05-03 12:08:38
30.   Bob Timmermann
I see now. I was looking on the Sports section of the Times website, but it hadn't been linked there yet. It was on the front page only.

Yeah, this enterprise by the Times seems to be, hmm, what's the word I'm looking for ...


I would think that the traffic that DT and 6-4-2 get that not a lot of people are going to turn to the LA Times to read the thoughts of a couple of Cardinals fans. Why didn't they just promote Houston Mitchell, who has a blog of his own on the Dodgers and Angels up to that gig?

I wonder if this was Randy Harvey's decision or some other whiz bang marketing guy from Chicago?

2006-05-03 12:14:54
31.   Steve
Maybe "our man in havana" needs to look into this.
2006-05-03 12:17:31
32.   Sam DC
I don't know why I'm filling up Jon's site with this nonsense today, but at this site (if you scroll down past the April Lavigne looking woman), is a list of the award winning headlines from the American Copy Editors Society annual headline writing contest. My favorite: "They Took Her T-Bird Away: Suzanne Somers Tried to Tell All, but Few Cared Enough to Listen."

2006-05-03 12:21:50
33.   Daniel Zappala
The main failing of this "blog" is the failure to understand what a blog is all about. It is not an exercise in linking to as many stories about the Dodgers as possible while recapping the previous day's game.
2006-05-03 12:22:49
34.   Jon Weisman
30 - My first advice to them would be to include fewer words in each link.

It would appear that this blog will appeal to the mainstream, so I bet it will be successful on a traffic level. I'm sure it will be read more widely than DT in no time.

2006-05-03 12:24:01
35.   Sam DC
RIP Earl Woods.
2006-05-03 12:28:30
36.   Vishal
that blog doesn't look interesting at all, outside of the player interviews, and the only reason they got those is because they're officially part of the LA times. and it's by cardinals fans! ridiculous. at least they're open about it though.
2006-05-03 12:28:45
37.   Sam DC
AP reports that Earl Woods was the first African-American to play baseball in the Big 8 -- catcher at Kansas State.

Here's an article:

2006-05-03 12:36:28
38.   Bob Timmermann
Is the Times Dodgers blog an opportunity for the Times to appear more boosterish toward the Dodgers?

I think we need more info on whether or not Brian Falkenborg will be an effective reliever for the Cardinals.

2006-05-03 12:39:43
39.   Vishal
[38] i think we all know the answer to that one already.
2006-05-03 12:40:22
40.   Jon Weisman
Am I crazy, or does ESPN show Falkenborg's season stats as 1 2/3 IP, 1 ER, 13.50 ERA?

2006-05-03 12:42:09
41.   DodgerJoe
I am becoming frustrated with OP. How many more starts does he get? Will it be like Kaz Ishii where he is allowed one more start then throws a decent game and gets a reprieve time and again.

I am for one or two more starts, then putting him on the phantom DL, and bringing up Billingsley.

2006-05-03 12:46:02
42.   Vishal
[40] you're not crazy. yahoo says he's only pitched 2/3 of an inning, though:

so that should make 13.50 the right figure.

2006-05-03 12:46:18
43.   DodgerJoe
I like Grady Little and I think he will be fine. With more time, he will become more familiar with the role and ability of the roster.

I have questioned some of his moves, like replacing Kent and/or Drew in a double switch when they can win the game with one swing. Their replacements cannot. And last night, why did he have Alomar pinch hit instead of Repko?

Just thinking out loud.

2006-05-03 12:46:19
44.   Bob Timmermann
They gave Falkenborg an extra inning. He only has 2/3 IP.
2006-05-03 12:49:06
45.   Sushirabbit
Didn't Kent have vision issues after the ball to ear-hole incident? I hope he's not pulling a Gagne... he's looked like he's checking his vision frequently, but alot of guys with contacts do that, so that's what I was assuming when he does that.
2006-05-03 12:49:38
46.   Bob Timmermann

Ishii kept getting reprieves because other pitchers kept getting hurt.

2006-05-03 12:53:14
47.   DodgerJoe
46 - it still didn't make it right :)
2006-05-03 13:24:19
48.   ToyCannon
"Louie's eyes are practically spinning like propellers"

Your a hell of writer Jon. How many actors eyes can do with them, what DeVito can do? Along with Barney Miller, Taxi was a must watch, back when youth was not a memory.

I like Little and hope that as he learns his pitchers he'll be more aggressive. I've always thought that OP was the one guy who Colletti did not want on his team and when Billingsly bulled his way into the rotation it would be to replace him.

Did anyone read the story from the Daily news on how much friction there was between OP and Green. I am totally in the minority here but I get a kick every time Green whacks the Dodgers.

2006-05-03 13:25:34
49.   dsfan
Well and good to examine Little's options regarding Perez. Better to examine why Depo gave so much money to a pitcher who often appeared physically and emotionally fragile and failed to stay in shape.

Factor in also some pretty hefty work loads early in his LAD career, in the context of a young pitcher who had TJ surgery.

Beyond his mediocre numbers, Perez is unreliable -- very tough to know what he's going to do from start to start, let alone batter to batter. That's very tough on a team and a manager.

It appears the money was poorly spent. I hope he turns it around, but it's not at all surprising that it's tracking this way.

2006-05-03 13:32:14
50.   Steve
Oooh...ripped from the headlines:

"GMs Pay Mediocre Pitchers Too Much Money"

David Horowitz will get right on this one.

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2006-05-03 13:42:55
51.   LAT
I am totally in the minority here but I get a kick every time Green whacks the Dodgers.

I'm with you Cannon, but last night was just silly.

2006-05-03 13:50:27
52.   Vishal
[48] in the story about the game, all it said was that green was odalis' "least favorite ex-teammate", but it didn't explain any further.
2006-05-03 13:50:38
53.   LAT
From the Daily News: Perez denied that the seemingly innocuous home run by Green affected him. Perez is widely known to despise Green, who while with the Dodgers frequently failed to produce offensively when Perez was pitching.

Wasn't OP pitching when Green didn't dive for a ball to preserve a no-hitter? Meanwhile, Green turns into Williei Mays this week. Green's defense must have made OP insane. (Not that that is hard to do.)

2006-05-03 13:57:02
54.   Sam DC
Good heavens. Listing to the Selig conference call on the Nationals ownership. He just said in response to a question that this decision was the hardest and most agonizing one he has had to make in his 14 years as Commissioner. More than labor, more than steroids.

Really? Come on . . .

2006-05-03 13:58:39
55.   ToyCannon
52 Not true.
From the Daily News:
"But to anyone who spent much time around the club, Perez's disdain for Green -- which seemed to stem primarily from Green's repeated failure to produce offensively whenever Perez was pitching --- was no secret."
2006-05-03 14:00:55
56.   Telemachos
55 Given how Odalis has produced over the last couple of years, seems he should be more careful about being disdainful in general.
2006-05-03 14:01:22
57.   Sam DC
The first question was, essentially, how do you justify to the people of DC collecting a $330 million profit on the sale of this team when they are asked to pony of $600 plus million for a new stadium. Bud's response, I don't know that those numbers are right, all the costs to mlb of owning the nationals are not in yet, I don't know where you got those numbers. We'll do OK, but the city will too.

Fine to say that everyone's gonna win here, but to say "where do you get those numbers" which have been reported in every article about the team for the past millenia, is just kind of rude.

2006-05-03 14:02:42
58.   ToyCannon
From BA on Ex-Dodger Tiffany:
"Devil Rays lefthander Chuck Tiffany is ailing at Double-A Montgomery. Tiffany, who was acquired from the Dodgers along with righthander Edwin Jackson in the Danys Baez deal, has had some shoulder soreness and while he hasn't gone on the disabled list, the club is being cautious with the 21-year-old lefty. Tiffany hasn't gone more than 4 2/3 innings in any of his four starts this year, and the club skipped his turn in the rotation after an April 19 loss to Huntsville. He lasted just 3 2/3 innings in that start, and allowed five runs on seven hits--two of them home runs. In his next start 10 days later, the results were worse. The second-round pick in 2003 allowed seven earned runs on eight hits and walked six over 3 1/3 innings. Overall, Tiffany is 0-2, 6.89 with a 12-14"
2006-05-03 14:03:40
59.   scareduck
34 - I have no doubt but that it was more successful than 6-4-2 on opening day.
2006-05-03 14:08:50
60.   Andrew Shimmin
I'm going to go to the Times' blog and post under the name, "oldbear." They'll never know what hit 'em!
2006-05-03 14:09:09
61.   Xeifrank
Any word on today's; lineup, yet?
vr` Xei
2006-05-03 14:11:17
62.   Sam DC
In response to a question about how funny it is that a team that was a contraction candidate is now being sold for $450 million, Bud just said "contraction is off the table." Don't know if that is news or not.
2006-05-03 14:12:28
63.   Sam DC
fussy, I know, but in 62 my quote above should actually should have brackets around "contraction" as he actually said "that is off the table now."
2006-05-03 14:14:26
64.   Fallout
Isn't Perez's main problem that his fastball has dropped 4-5 mph in the past 2-3
years? I don't see him very much but it seems to me that he use to top out at 90 and throw 87-88. Now its more like 84 on average. He cannot keep the hitters honest with such a poor FB.
2006-05-03 14:18:33
65.   Inside Baseball
What do people think is the market (if any) for Odalis Perez? Is there a team that is desperate enough to take on the majority of his salary? I would be happy with some broken bats in return.

Odalis has been living off of one great season for too long now. I'm tired of waiting/hoping for him to pitch like that again and I don't see it ever happening at this point. I for one am ready to end any chance of the Piazza trade ever bearing anything other than heartache and pain.

2006-05-03 14:22:12
66.   bigcpa
65 My suggestion the other day was an Odalis for Clement swap. They both are due $19-20M over the next 2 years. Both could use a change of scenery. Odalis is 3 years younger.

BTW B-ref lists Odalis at 6'0" 150lbs.

2006-05-03 14:28:59
67.   Inside Baseball
66 I'd do that in a heartbeat, although I don't see why the Red Sox would. Perez in Fenway seems like a dicey proposition. Maybe if they brought back old Braves Field there.
2006-05-03 14:31:31
68.   sanchez101
65. are you talking about Odalis' 2002 or 2004?
2006-05-03 14:32:52
69.   sanchez101
66. Im sure a soft-tossing lefthander like Odalis will work out great in Fenway Park ... ya, thats the ticket ...
2006-05-03 14:33:23
70.   LAT
From Bud: "And, among the successful family-operated teams today are the Wilpons with the Mets, the Pohlads in Minnesota, and the Moores family in San Diego. I believe the Lerner family will be another excellent example"

What, no McCourts?

2006-05-03 14:35:54
71.   Inside Baseball
68 '02. He was good in '04 but didn't pitch one complete game or shutout and gave up only two fewer hits in 26 fewer innings.
2006-05-03 14:37:53
72.   Sam DC
70 He had earlier mentioned the O'Malleys, so maybe that covered the franchise.

Of course, Nationals fans were thinking, "The Pohlads?"

2006-05-03 14:38:19
73.   bigcpa
Recent post on that LA Times Cardinal blog...

"I went to the dodger forum and let people know about this blog... hopefully that will bring in more traffic."

(Commence evil laughter.)

2006-05-03 14:39:51
74.   OaklandAs
I think the criticism of Odalis Perez is a little too harsh. Overall, his numbers aren't that good so far this year, but he has had 3 very good starts in 6 tries. It's way too small of a sample to conclude that he's horrible. Look how many other pitchers have ERA's over 5 at this point in the season - Andy Pettitte, Jason Marquis, Matt Morris, Jon Lieber, Carlos Zambrano, El Duque and Livan Hernandez are a few. Even guys like Peavy, Hudson, and JSchmidt are over 4.50.
2006-05-03 14:44:04
75.   Sam DC
60 is actually pretty funny, although I'm pretty not supposed to encourage such hijinx.
2006-05-03 14:46:45
76.   Bob Timmermann
Odalis Perez is well on his way to becoming a left-handed, 21st century version of Ismael Valdez.
2006-05-03 14:52:04
77.   Jon Weisman
Game thread is open, with mention of the new blog operating under the radar. No, not that one ...
2006-05-03 14:55:58
78.   ElysianPark62
53 and 64, you are both correct. I was at the game when Green didn't dive for the ball to preserve the no-hitter. I doubt he would've caught it if he had, but obviously Perez believed he should have at least attempted it. After that the animosity seemed to rise.

But Odalis shouldn't have taken Green's lack of offensive production personally. Green bounced out to 2B or 1B frequently with other pitchers, too. I can picture it now.

2006-05-03 14:58:43
79.   Inside Baseball
76 Call him Ismael.
2006-05-03 14:59:03
80.   Jon Weisman
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2006-05-03 15:06:39
81.   Johnson
75 I would also like to join the "I Got The Joke In 60" club.
2006-05-03 17:52:33
82.   Howard Fox
I sincerely hope I am wrong, cause I like him alot, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Jeff Kent is not going to get better anytime soon.

I think he has begun his final slide toward retirement.

Like I say, I hope I am wrong.

2006-05-03 18:42:32
83.   dbenzen
Blowing a 5 run lead in San Diego made me dizzy. Blowing a 6-runner to the D-Backs made me barf. What's next? Six Feet Under?

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