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I Can't Believe 16 Teams Have To Wait Another Day
2006-07-13 16:26
by Jon Weisman

Since when did the All-Star Break get extended for half of baseball? Just seven games on tap tonight.

* * *

Tonight's game

Comments (521)
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2006-07-13 16:31:06
1.   overkill94
So who's this Josh Bell guy? He's hitting .321 in rookie ball and keeps showing up in my BA prospect reports. Did we draft him last year? Is he legit?
2006-07-13 16:33:11
2.   ssjames
1 We drafted Bell last year as a projectable third baseman with power, and for some reason he didn't get sent to Columbus as one would have guessed, but the kid is legit and one to keep an eye on next year for sure. Josh Wall is the pitching version of Josh Bell.
2006-07-13 16:33:36
3.   natepurcell

hes a switch hitting 3b who is suppose to have really good raw power. he was drafted in the 4th round of the 2005 draft out of HS in florida. Last year in the GCL, he didn't hit for much power but he controlled the strike zone pretty well. This year, he is hitting for a ton of power but his plate discipline has deteriorated.

he probably wont stay at 3b (most likley moved to 1b or lf), so his bat will need to carry him.

2006-07-13 16:34:44
4.   Uncle Miltie
Where's Encarnacion? I was really hoping that he'd play since Billingsley is going to need some easy outs. At least the Cardinals have Aaron Miles and Yadier Molina. Jason Marquis is a tougher out than the guys batting ahead of him. What are the pitching matchups for the other games in the series.

The Reds GM knows that he got ripped off
"We paid a steep price," Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky said. "I'm sure this will be a controversial trade. I know a lot of people will be leaving nasty messages on my voicemail, and I'll have some who think it's great."

Bowden isn't shy to admit that he ripped off the Reds
"Philosophically, we believe that when you have a chance to trade a middle reliever for an everyday player, that's helpful," Bowden said. "Over the long run, if you look at a player for the next five to seven years, pitchers are more of a risk to injuries than everyday players."

2006-07-13 16:34:47
5.   Bob Timmermann
The "fleeced" Reds have a 3-0 lead in the first at home against the Rockies.
2006-07-13 16:38:05
6.   regfairfield
5 Well yeah, Royce Clayton isn't there yet.
2006-07-13 16:38:15
7.   Steve
Philosophically, I'm going to need a drink.
2006-07-13 16:38:28
8.   the OZ
5 They're ahead 3-0 in the first inning! Then the trade was a success!
2006-07-13 16:43:54
9.   Bob Timmermann
I like to judge the success of any trade in the shortest possible timespan! This is the age of the internet and instant opinion making!
2006-07-13 16:49:48
10.   Claire Malone-Evans
Yikes! Paul Nauert is calling balls and strikes.
2006-07-13 16:49:51
11.   LAT
So if the Nat's are without Rolls Royce Clayton do they need a gold glove shortstop?
2006-07-13 16:50:34
12.   bobbygrich
9 I still think that the Christy Mathewson for Amos Rusie trade is the worst deal in the Red's history.
2006-07-13 16:51:07
13.   blue22
9 - I think we should trade Kemp. I mean, he's couldn't even displace Kenny Lofton in tonight's lineup!
2006-07-13 16:51:52
14.   Bob Timmermann
Old Friend Juan Castro is manning the shortstop position tonight.

He's handy with the leather.

2006-07-13 16:52:35
15.   Bob Timmermann
That would be a tough one to beat.

But we should probably pick one that had fewer elements of fraud of it.

2006-07-13 16:53:09
16.   Uncle Miltie

Off topic: Anyone have an idea for the cause of this. Maybe to lose weight? I am more anti-smoking than anti-Jeff Kent.

That's saying a lot.

2006-07-13 16:53:37
17.   Bob Timmermann
Wasn't the Lo Duca for Penny trade a disaster according to Plaschke after the Dodgers lost the second game after it when Dreifort failed to hold a lead.
2006-07-13 16:56:03
18.   blue22
16 - 48% of men worldwide smoke?!?
2006-07-13 16:56:51
19.   DXMachina
16 - "You've come a long way baby.."
2006-07-13 16:57:01
20.   bobbygrich
15 Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas and a bag of peanuts.
2006-07-13 16:58:37
21.   Bob Timmermann
The Rockies have scored a run to make it 3-1. The Reds trade may be a bad one after all!
2006-07-13 16:58:41
22.   blue22
That's a large disparity - 12% of women to 48% of men...perhaps it's just the convergence of the two numbers as women gain more equality around the world.

Wonder how the US figures compare to the worldwide stats?

2006-07-13 17:00:59
23.   underdog
I think the Bill Plaschke for whichever writer/columnist he replaced is the worst trade in LA Times history...
2006-07-13 17:02:12
24.   Uncle Miltie
22- well in Europe and Asia it's like 90 %(exaggerating). I would guess that a larger percent of women smoke in the U.S. than men.
2006-07-13 17:03:41
25.   Bob Timmermann
Plaschke started his column in 1996.

Didn't he take Mike Downey's place when they moved him over to the California section?

2006-07-13 17:10:13
26.   Mr Customer
17. Bob. Put the can of worms down, and nobody has to get hurt.

Hee Seop Choi cried, just a little, when you wrote that comment.

2006-07-13 17:11:13
27.   Steve
Which All-Star Game was Marquis upset about not being in?
2006-07-13 17:11:27
28.   overkill94
I kinda like Raffy's Ichiro/softball impersonation
2006-07-13 17:11:54
29.   Uncle Miltie
27- Little league?
2006-07-13 17:12:57
30.   GoBears
OT, but in the spirit of 2nd halfification, a friend sent this email to me:

Interesting list from Hardball Times. Someone has created "Predicted OPS" which seems like (I haven't read the original article) a regression that identifies the key factors that predict OPS, then uses each player's values on these things (e.g., walk rate, %line drives, etc.) to figure out predicted OPS. Predicted OPS is apparently better than actual OPS at predicting future performance.

With that, here are the ten players whose Predicted OPS most exceeds their actual OPS, and who thus are most likely to crash by the end of the season. The first number is the PrOPS, the second their actual OPS, and the third the difference.

Holliday Matt T COL NL LF ..852 .974 .122
Sanchez Freddy PIT NL 3B .819 .917 .097
Cabrera Miguel FLA NL 3B ..913 .998 .086
Rolen Scott STL NL 3B .892 .976 .084
Garciaparra Nomar LAN NL 1B . .925 1.004 .079
Hawpe Brad B COL NL RF .877 .954 .077
Reyes Jose NYN NL SS .770 .838 .068
Byrnes Eric ARI NL CF .808 .874 .066
Uggla Daniel C FLA NL 2B .810 .875 .066
Wright David A NYN NL 3B .896 .961 .066

I'll add that even Nomar's predicted OPS is darn impressive, and much higher than I expected this year. The question now is whether he can stay healthy - he's already played more games than he did last season.

That's the most likely reason that Loney will not be traded this season: he's Nomar insurance.

2006-07-13 17:14:41
31.   underdog
Sigh. I didn't realize Rick Monday was going to do the play by play for today's game. I'm now glad I'm going to miss a good portion of this game. "Here's Nomar Garciaparra, who is night and day, he has been red hot."



2006-07-13 17:16:12
32.   Gen3Blue
Wow, Garc,Kent,and Drew as the heart of the line-up. I like it. I hope they're not to rusty to do something.
2006-07-13 17:16:21
33.   Bob Timmermann
There's a rabbit loose!
2006-07-13 17:17:54
34.   Gen3Blue
Come on-- score and maybe the rain will hold off for 5.
2006-07-13 17:18:06
35.   Steve
Paul Abbott must sit at home, watch Jason Marquis pitch, and want to hang himself.
2006-07-13 17:18:46
36.   Robert Daeley

Is that prediction based on the previous couple of seasons? Or better question, what's the PrOPS formula and what data are they basing it on?

2006-07-13 17:18:57
37.   Jon Weisman
35 - Isn't that how Bud Abbott died?
2006-07-13 17:19:03
38.   Bob Timmermann
I wouldn't worry about the rain. The Cardinals would wait all night and into the next morning to finish this game.
2006-07-13 17:19:17
39.   overkill94
Dang, Kent smoked that one
2006-07-13 17:20:18
40.   Jon Weisman
Pitches faced that inning:

Drew: 9
Furcal + Lofton + Garciaparra + Kent: 6

2006-07-13 17:20:51
41.   Uncle Miltie
Nice at bat by Kent
2006-07-13 17:22:12
42.   Steve
You are dark, Jon. A dark pall hangs over this board now. Although that might just be the mention of Paul Abbott doing that.
2006-07-13 17:22:20
43.   Jon Weisman
41 - Is that anti-Kent comment or a "You're never allowed to swing at the first pitch" comment?
2006-07-13 17:22:22
44.   thinkblue0
david eckstein really really bothers me for some reason. I just can't stand him.
2006-07-13 17:22:36
45.   Bob Timmermann
There's a scrappy guy loose!
2006-07-13 17:23:23
46.   Jon Weisman
42 - Re: 37, too soon?
2006-07-13 17:24:46
47.   thinkblue0
I don't want to be a downer, but I think pujols is going to absolutely murder the ball here.
2006-07-13 17:25:25
48.   D4P
Dang, Kent smoked that one

Well, he is a man after all...

2006-07-13 17:25:25
49.   Steve
46 -- I'll manage.
2006-07-13 17:26:02
50.   Uncle Miltie
Billingsley's wearing the Scott Erickson pants.

One size up, Chad!

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2006-07-13 17:27:09
51.   regfairfield
36 PrOPS is based on batted ball data. For example, a line drive is worth X-bases, a groundball is worth Y, and walk is worth Z. You take those numbers, do something special, and you get PrOPS.
2006-07-13 17:27:54
52.   Bob Timmermann
I've got a bad feeling about this inning...
2006-07-13 17:29:06
53.   overkill94
50 Worked out for Erickson, he did land Lisa Guerrero after all
2006-07-13 17:29:54
54.   thinkblue0
nice K there by Bills....that pitch was only clocked at 88 but it looked faster than that.
2006-07-13 17:29:59
55.   BlueCrew Bruin
A swinging strike!
2006-07-13 17:30:04
56.   Humma Kavula
2006-07-13 17:30:12
57.   Steve
Ahhh, four game series against the Cardinals bring back such wonderful memories. I hope we make a scrapbook of this one.
2006-07-13 17:30:55
58.   Humma Kavula

[breathes out]

2006-07-13 17:31:00
59.   thinkblue0
is it me or was Lofton noticeably limping on that catch...why the heck is he out there.
2006-07-13 17:31:13
60.   Bob Timmermann
Never a doubt in my mind!
2006-07-13 17:33:23
61.   Uncle Miltie
43- only great hitters (Nomar) can swing at the first pitch :)

Cardinals fans thought it was a hit because it was right at Lofton.

2006-07-13 17:33:31
62.   Jon Weisman
Could the court reporter kindly read back comment No. 52?
2006-07-13 17:38:17
63.   King of the Hobos
For those interested in PrOPS, I believe it was created by J.C. Bradbury (he writes over at, and contributes to THT). Here's his introduction to PrOPS:

2006-07-13 17:41:12
64.   natepurcell
Can the ump please call the curveball for a strike? come on.
2006-07-13 17:42:52
65.   Steve
Umpire to nate: I'm wearing a $3,000 suit, and you want me to call the curveball for a strike! COME ON!
2006-07-13 17:43:23
66.   natepurcell
Hahaha! Oh Yadier.
2006-07-13 17:50:36
67.   thinkblue0
nice double by Furcal...he's sure got some wheels.
2006-07-13 17:52:47
68.   CanuckDodger
How did Molina get out? Gameday did not say how he got out. He just disappeared.

Nate, what is Billingsley's fastball velocity? Is he throwing any sliders?

2006-07-13 17:55:04
69.   thinkblue0
2006-07-13 17:55:11
70.   natepurcell
Ball in the dirt, Molina tried to advance to second, got thrown out.

billingsley is 89-94, but weather conditions aren't really that great. he hasnt thrown any sliders yet. 4 seamers and curves with some 2 seamers mixed in.

2006-07-13 17:55:13
71.   bobbygrich
68 From the radio broadcast, there was a pitch in the dirt that got away but not far enough so Martin threw out Molina trying to advance to second.
2006-07-13 17:55:22
72.   overkill94
2006-07-13 17:55:38
73.   Uncle Miltie
This place is Coors Lite
2006-07-13 17:55:44
74.   dsfan
As umpires became less inclined to call curveballs for strikes, sadly the bigger curveball became less prevalent, the sliders/cutters more prevalent. With today's strikezone, it's very hard to get a called strike with a good, big curveball. It's enough to maker Bert Blyleven weep.

When evaulating pitching prospects, my belief is one should keep this in mind. Too many analysts get lathered up over a prospect's "big curve." Nice to have one, but getting major league umpires to call it for a strike is a whole new ballgame, and major league hitters know it.

Related to this, a prospect's pitchability tends to get underappreciated, because it's harder to evaluate.

2006-07-13 17:55:58
75.   Robert Daeley
2006-07-13 17:56:48
76.   BlueCrew Bruin
Hang on a Nomar now borrowing from next year's home run total? Ned should consider that during negotiations.
2006-07-13 17:56:51
77.   bobbygrich
Did that ball look like a home run the minute it left the bat?
2006-07-13 17:57:33
78.   ssjames
73 You mean it tastes really bad?
2006-07-13 17:57:59
79.   bobbygrich
74 Looked what happened when Zito was on his game and was getting the curve ball over, it was game over Dodgers.
2006-07-13 17:58:55
80.   bobbygrich
Only 3rd time in 6 games that Chad has pitched with a lead. Let's see if he can be more agressive this time through the lineup.
2006-07-13 17:59:17
81.   StolenMonkey86
59 - This is exactly the game Kemp should be out there for anyway. Marquis is always killed by the longball. He's given up 20 in 115 innings.
2006-07-13 18:00:11
82.   bobbygrich
Great, now we are getting a weather report from Rick Monday.
2006-07-13 18:00:12
83.   natepurcell
Eckstein is so annoying.
2006-07-13 18:01:21
84.   StolenMonkey86
He's setting up for a GIDP. I'll operate under that assumption.
2006-07-13 18:03:17
85.   StolenMonkey86
Furcal turned an unassisted triple play 3 years ago, and Billingsley things Pujols will line into another one here.
2006-07-13 18:06:06
86.   natepurcell
Sliders to both Pujols and Rolen.
2006-07-13 18:06:15
87.   StolenMonkey86
That's how you do it!
2006-07-13 18:06:46
88.   natepurcell
Gun just said 97...
2006-07-13 18:06:57
89.   Bluebleeder87
o.k. so Bills is throwing 87 or 97??
2006-07-13 18:07:58
90.   Bluebleeder87
one gun said 87? (i know it was a fastball) then they called it 97 ('i'm cofused?)
2006-07-13 18:08:25
91.   StolenMonkey86
Both. At the same time. He can hit 87 left-handed.
2006-07-13 18:09:10
92.   Uncle Miltie
I approve of that kind of first pitch swinging
2006-07-13 18:09:18
93.   Fern
Is it wishful thinking to say "he's pitching a lot like Kazmir when he first came up"?

Yeah, I thought so too.

2006-07-13 18:09:29
94.   StolenMonkey86
That's his magic corner.
2006-07-13 18:09:38
95.   natepurcell
89 the same parallel universes.

wow, russ martin already has a fox sports feature show on him.

2006-07-13 18:10:05
96.   bobbygrich
I am guessing Chad is over 60 pitches for 3 innings, he has to get that under control or he will never be an effective startet.
2006-07-13 18:10:09
97.   Mr Customer
Shades of Kazuhisa with the walks...


2006-07-13 18:10:36
98.   thinkblue0

The thing I hate about Eckstein is he's always trying to "make the team". I'm all about hustling...but everyone knew that annoying kid who would hustle at everything. Like, taking a break in practice to get a drink he'd sprint to the water cooler...or after walking he sprints to first completely not necessary...that just bugs me.

2006-07-13 18:11:04
99.   natepurcell
Chad really likes hid dip i see.
2006-07-13 18:11:04
100.   thinkblue0

he's only made a handful of need to worry about his control.

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2006-07-13 18:14:28
101.   ninjavshippo
98 i don't mind that annoying-ness. it's more when announcers fall over themselves to say how "scrappy" and how he "lights a fire" under pujols, rolen and co. I seriously doubt anything scrappy doo does has any bearing on whether or not the best hitter in baseball is going to rake the ball to all fields.
2006-07-13 18:15:15
102.   StolenMonkey86
Izzy leaves the yard! Too bad it hit the ground first.
2006-07-13 18:15:30
103.   Bluebleeder87

why should you be suprised?? he rocks!!

2006-07-13 18:17:28
104.   StolenMonkey86
Come on Billingsley! What are you, a pitcher?!
2006-07-13 18:18:16
105.   ninjavshippo
Golden Boy's OPS w/ RISP + 2 outs: .938. of course, since grittle's buried him at the 8 spot, he'll probably walk in those situations to get to the pitcher.
2006-07-13 18:18:37
106.   Bluebleeder87

or a bellie itcher? :o)

2006-07-13 18:19:30
107.   Bluebleeder87
Cardinals aren't so tough!!
2006-07-13 18:21:53
108.   overkill94
I'm gonna go with a community decision here...

is Kids in the Hall: Brain Candy a good movie? I like the show and have been thinking about renting the movie. Thought?

2006-07-13 18:22:41
109.   King of the Hobos
Lance Carter is no longer on the 40 man roster! Rejoice! He was removed so that Ledee could be reinstated from the 60-day DL. Ledee's with the club, and could take Alomar's spot (who would go to the DL). Also, Izzy is leaving to witness his child's birth, which could mean LaRoche will make his major league debut.
2006-07-13 18:22:58
110.   StolenMonkey86
yay, first pitch out for Billingsley.
2006-07-13 18:25:44
111.   StolenMonkey86
Bills like to pitch outside.
2006-07-13 18:26:04
112.   Bluebleeder87

I will experince a rockie with a back ground of bad defence & furterther more he's a rockie (more errors & bad hitting becouse he's a rockie) I love it!!!

2006-07-13 18:26:43
113.   ninjavshippo
A momentary aside, if you can spare a moment.

I've just read that Israel's bombed a main highway in Lebanon and a Beirut airport. One of my best friends (and the most devout dodger fan I know) is in Beirut for the summer, studying Arabic at a university there. I've been in touch with him and it sounds like things are okay where he is for now, but he can hear bombs about 10 miles off and his area has been leafletted with warnings about oncoming attacks. Just asking that you keep him in your thoughts/prayers. For once, the decades of M/E violence hits a little closer to home than I could have ever expected.. :/

Back to watching the Chad tightrope act. That doesn't make me any less nervous.

2006-07-13 18:28:05
114.   Bluebleeder87
Looks like Bills will get his 1st win.
2006-07-13 18:28:07
115.   overkill94
Might as well start calling Billingsley "Houdini"
2006-07-13 18:28:29
116.   StolenMonkey86
He can get out of 'em. I'll say that for Billingsley.
2006-07-13 18:29:34
117.   overkill94
114 Whoa there cowboy, don't go jinxing it
2006-07-13 18:29:43
118.   Bluebleeder87

puts things in prospective.

2006-07-13 18:30:21
119.   confucius
113 For sure. I hope friend stays safe. :)
2006-07-13 18:30:46
120.   StolenMonkey86
112 - A rockie? Don't tell me Ned traded for Kaz Matsui.
2006-07-13 18:31:31
121.   overkill94
Is the 13 million dollar man finally earning his keep?
2006-07-13 18:32:15
122.   StolenMonkey86
113 - Wow, that's rather frightening
2006-07-13 18:32:40
123.   confucius
114 Comments like that are as bad as no-hitter calls in the fourth inning.
2006-07-13 18:33:17
124.   StolenMonkey86
Hey, Furcal is hitting something closer to his career average.
2006-07-13 18:35:54
125.   Bluebleeder87
on a happier note!..
2006-07-13 18:36:41
126.   Humma Kavula
another first pitch out!
2006-07-13 18:36:53
127.   Bluebleeder87
Bills is pitching a good game (finally)
2006-07-13 18:37:38
128.   ninjavshippo

Yes, Bills is definitely giving us something to smile about, so far. :)

2006-07-13 18:38:32
129.   confucius
I hope Chan Ho saw that Tatis jersey and dropped to his knees.
2006-07-13 18:40:21
130.   ninjavshippo

yeah, he certainly is. 22 SBs and 63 runs scored is nothing to sneeze at, either.

2006-07-13 18:41:19
131.   bobbygrich
It does seem that Chad has problems pitching out of the stretch (although he should be used to it). But I think he still needs to get over the fact that these guys are MAJOR LEAGUE hitters and just concentrate and do the things that he did to get here.
2006-07-13 18:41:25
132.   Bob Timmermann
2006-07-13 18:43:56
133.   StolenMonkey86
High one to swing at. Nice!
2006-07-13 18:44:08
134.   Humma Kavula
those Ks have come at the right time -- and against some tough, tough hitters. That is very, very encouraging.

Still need one more out before Bob can reference a different post...

2006-07-13 18:44:37
135.   confucius
132 Keep doing that Bob, it's working!
2006-07-13 18:45:13
136.   Bluebleeder87

Bob always thinking negetive! by the way Bob my girl says hi.

2006-07-13 18:45:18
137.   bobbygrich
Nate, is Chad getting squeezed at all?
2006-07-13 18:46:14
138.   Bluebleeder87
poor Graddy is sweating it out!
2006-07-13 18:47:35
139.   Humma Kavula
Bob -- [60}?
2006-07-13 18:47:47
140.   StolenMonkey86
magic corner!
2006-07-13 18:47:48
141.   Uncle Miltie
Good job by Grits to leave him in. He knew who the hitter at the plate was.
2006-07-13 18:48:08
142.   natepurcell

Nah not really anymore.

2006-07-13 18:48:12
143.   Bluebleeder87
guess what folks Bills has a shut out, thrue 6
2006-07-13 18:48:33
144.   King of the Hobos
Teixeira has 3 homers so far in Baltimore, half of Texas' total for the game.
2006-07-13 18:48:44
145.   confucius
137 Not to speak for Nate, but I don't think he is getting squeezed this inning.
2006-07-13 18:48:53
146.   StolenMonkey86
143 - 5, sir, 5.
2006-07-13 18:49:05
147.   bobbygrich
So is Chad done for the day, do we see the Gio show?
2006-07-13 18:49:22
148.   thinkingblue
Cardinals aren't so tough!!

I know. When you have Spezio, Duncan, Molina, Miles, AND the pitcher clogging up your line up (and Eck has no power), you really aren't that great.

Plus, they don't have a quality starter save for Carpenter.

2006-07-13 18:49:36
149.   Bluebleeder87
is this the Bills we were all expecting (the REAL Chad??)
2006-07-13 18:49:44
150.   ninjavshippo

Pardon my french, but *%!# teixera. he had like 7 HRs at the break, was sinking my fantasy team, and i gave him away for nothing. i wish nothing but ill-will on his power numbers.

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2006-07-13 18:50:04
151.   Bob Timmermann
I guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
2006-07-13 18:50:32
152.   bobbygrich
Sounds like, and from the game I saw last week, he can't consistently get his fastball over for strikes, I don't know if he is trying to be too fine but if he ever can do that and then work his curveball over, he can be effective.
2006-07-13 18:51:08
153.   Bluebleeder87

I've been corrected, thanks for the correction. :o)

2006-07-13 18:51:10
154.   bobbygrich
149 the real Bills doesn't walk 5 in two innings. (at least I hope not)
2006-07-13 18:51:20
155.   overkill94
Probably the best review of the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie you'll ever see/hear -
2006-07-13 18:51:37
156.   StolenMonkey86
150 - You're gonna have to ask Russell Martin to do that. I don't speak French.

Hey, Jeff Kent took the first pitch!

2006-07-13 18:51:52
157.   natepurcell

your intuition is correct. He is trying to be to fine with his fastball.

2006-07-13 18:52:53
158.   confucius says that Ledee is ready to go. So who will/should it be? Kemp, Cruz, Hall, or Alomar? Someone has to go.
2006-07-13 18:52:55
159.   CanuckDodger
With 97 pitches in humidity, Chad should be done for the day. Putting him out for another inning would be incompetent managing.
2006-07-13 18:53:27
160.   Gen3Blue
St. Louis has stranded 10! good
Oh Drew flies out.
This pitchers still in--good, maybe we can frag him.
Looks bad, I must admit.
2006-07-13 18:54:07
161.   ninjavshippo
why can't it be ledee?
2006-07-13 18:55:03
162.   thinkingblue
Oh Drew flies out.

The 100th homerless at bat for him.

2006-07-13 18:55:07
163.   Gen3Blue
We are making this guy look like Maddox at his peak. And I haven't seen him hit 80mph yet, myself.
2006-07-13 18:56:04
164.   thinkingblue
is this the Bills we were all expecting (the REAL Chad??

I hope not. 11 or so baserunners in 5 innings won't get it done.

2006-07-13 18:56:14
165.   Bluebleeder87

I'd say Hall! I don't like what he said about the LOS ANGELES DODGERS be thank full your playing for a great team dude!!! what?? you wanna play for a bad team???

2006-07-13 18:56:22
166.   StolenMonkey86
Sandy prolly gets DL'ed for his knees.

In the meantime, does anyone think Grady would start Martin at third with Izzy away, if it's not for that long? Then Toby Hall can be happy too.

2006-07-13 18:56:52
167.   bobbygrich
162 This probably has been mentioned here before but it would not surprise if those wrist injuries take a long time to heal in regards of power, just a thought.
2006-07-13 18:58:33
168.   Humma Kavula
What do you guys think for 7-8-9? Broxton, Baez, Saito?
2006-07-13 18:59:19
169.   ninjavshippo

maybe that's why we'll never see jayson werth again?

2006-07-13 18:59:52
170.   Bluebleeder87
Gio = Dodger gold.
2006-07-13 19:00:19
171.   StolenMonkey86
Carrara is gonna pitch 2 innings (thus the double switch), then Broxton, then Saito.

If they're far enough ahead, heck, Gio bats and goes for a 4 inning save.

2006-07-13 19:00:27
172.   Gen3Blue
Well, on the good side, if we can't muster any offense against this pitcher, almost all our prospects have good futures.
This is really disgusting. Here is a chance to get Bills a win, and our offense seems to have given up after the third. Or maybe we feel we have enough runs to win?
2006-07-13 19:01:23
173.   StolenMonkey86
According to Gameday, the same pitch was a ball and a called strike to Eckstein.


2006-07-13 19:01:36
174.   Uncle Miltie
Kent might be injured
2006-07-13 19:02:01
175.   ninjavshippo

i don't think 2 runs are enough when you have pooholes and rolen on the other side. then again, when you have isringhausen shutting their door, i'd keep the hope alive even if they got even with us.

2006-07-13 19:02:30
176.   Bluebleeder87
Bills has kept us in the game in all of his starts! so I'm happy for him today! GO BILLS!!
2006-07-13 19:02:58
177.   StolenMonkey86
Heck, Isringhausen and Lidge have Baezed this year.
2006-07-13 19:03:04
178.   ninjavshippo

i saw that too. i wonder if that was a techie jabbing the ump's strike zone. :)

2006-07-13 19:03:45
179.   Uncle Miltie
Nice Grits.....
2006-07-13 19:03:48
180.   Bluebleeder87
Like Vin says "FROM ME TO YOU! YIKES! (Izzy)
2006-07-13 19:04:12
181.   ninjavshippo
177 the difference is that those guys have played in games of merit. i can't imagine any of baez's 40 some saves were in a meaningful game, considering it was the D-rays.
2006-07-13 19:05:23
182.   Robert Daeley
Dig that Texas/Baltimore score. Teixeira making up for lost time on the homerun front. :)
2006-07-13 19:07:20
183.   Uncle Miltie
Gio, Baez, Kuo and Greg Miller for Adam Dunn and Edwin Encarnacion
2006-07-13 19:07:34
184.   StolenMonkey86
Is there some kinda delay in St Louis? Gameday hasn't moved in a while.
2006-07-13 19:07:40
185.   ninjavshippo
Quick trivia question: who is the only regular player other than Pujols to walk at least twice as much as he strikes out?

Sheath your google-fu, for this one.

2006-07-13 19:08:04
186.   Gen3Blue
Who was that got thrown out at 2nd. Was it my man Izzy. Whoever, I will admit it was pitiful.
2006-07-13 19:08:15
187.   bobbygrich
181 FYI, last year Baez had 7 saves against the Yankees (with a 0 ERA) and 3 saves against both the Red Sox and Angels.
2006-07-13 19:08:15
188.   Gen3Blue
Who was that got thrown out at 2nd. Was it my man Izzy. Whoever, I will admit it was pitiful.
2006-07-13 19:08:17
189.   ninjavshippo
* i mean sheathe. damn it.
2006-07-13 19:09:09
190.   Gen3Blue
What a curve.
2006-07-13 19:09:11
191.   ninjavshippo

i didn't say he didn't face quality teams. i'm saying how much 9th inning "pressure" is there when you're out of the pennant race at the ASB?

2006-07-13 19:10:08
192.   StolenMonkey86
Gameday's still on the second pitch to Eckstein in the bottom of the 6th. What's going on now?

Maybe I'll try Gamecast instead.

2006-07-13 19:10:12
193.   Robert Daeley
Maybe the arch fell over on top of the stadium, delaying the game?

Nothing worse than fallen arches. ;)

2006-07-13 19:12:39
194.   StolenMonkey86
I'm thinking rain delay maybe, or security took a nap and let a streaker on the field.
2006-07-13 19:13:23
195.   StolenMonkey86
Anyone watching the game on TV that knows what's going on?
2006-07-13 19:13:39
196.   natepurcell
Repko is in the lineup for Vegas tonight.
2006-07-13 19:13:44
197.   Bob Timmermann
Eddie Guardado trying to get his first save for the Reds. Reds lead 9-6 in the 9th and the Rockies have a man on second with one out.

Huff hit a 3-run homer for Houston tonight in their win at Florida.

2006-07-13 19:14:26
198.   Bob Timmermann
Two outs in the bottom of the seventh.
Rolen on second.
Edmonds up.
2006-07-13 19:14:40
199.   dsfan
Is Kent injured? If it's the oblique, maybe Jon should take another look at this franchise's track record on injury rehab, hasty returns, etc.
2006-07-13 19:15:37
200.   Bob Timmermann
Kent could be injured, but they also took him out as part of a double switch.
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2006-07-13 19:15:44
201.   StolenMonkey86
198 - Thanks. Anything from the Dodger offense in the 7th? And who's pitching?
2006-07-13 19:16:33
202.   Bob Timmermann
Carrara on the mound and he gave up a 2-run homer to Edmonds.
2006-07-13 19:16:42
203.   overkill94
Gio just Baezed the lead to Edmonds
2006-07-13 19:16:44
204.   Uncle Miltie
Why the hell would he go inside to Edmonds?

Gio is back

2006-07-13 19:17:53
205.   StolenMonkey86
Gio! That's was Chad's win! Now Nomar has to win the game.
2006-07-13 19:19:20
206.   thinkingblue
You know Gio, you can throw a breaking ball.
2006-07-13 19:19:21
207.   natepurcell
Repko walks in his first AB in vegas. they are facing Micah Owings,a pretty good pitching prospect too.
2006-07-13 19:20:03
208.   Robert Daeley
Looks like 117 was right about 114 jinxing it. :P
2006-07-13 19:20:23
209.   Bob Timmermann
Steve Lyons rejoices as Clint Barmes doubles with 2 outs and a runner on second in the 9th to cut the deficit to 9-7.
2006-07-13 19:20:51
210.   thinkingblue
If Drew bats, will he finally do something productive? In fact, I wonder, who'd grounded out to second base more since Izzy has come back, Drew or Cesar?
2006-07-13 19:20:51
211.   dsfan
Blame the offense, too. Marquis isn't that good. I could be wrong, but since Drew got hurt against Colorado, seems like he's really powered only 4-5 balls. Too bad, he looked sharp at the time of the injury. If Kent's hurt, the medical people have some questions to answer.
2006-07-13 19:21:19
212.   bobbygrich
205 That was the Dodgers lead, not Chad's.
2006-07-13 19:23:01
213.   bobbygrich
211 Unless you are going to give players a lie detector test, its pretty hard to keep them out if they say they can play and you have no medical evidence to argue agaist that. I think they sucessfully kept him out over the weekend but unless you are going to DL, you can't keep playing shorthanded.
2006-07-13 19:23:14
214.   Gen3Blue
I don't think thats all Geo's fault. I could feel that coming since our offense gave up after the third.
I think we need to change some faces even if we try Kemp and Tomato.
2006-07-13 19:23:32
215.   StolenMonkey86
Aybar flew out, and Repko advanced to 3rd on a throwing error by the 2B.
2006-07-13 19:24:15
216.   Bob Timmermann
Reds win 9-7. Wayne Krivsky is a SUPER GENIUS!
2006-07-13 19:24:50
217.   King of the Hobos
185 Bonds. Would you count Hattebrerg and Catalanotto as regular players? They both qualify as well.
2006-07-13 19:25:21
218.   Gen3Blue
I didn't realize this same Junkballer is going for a complete game. Shame.
2006-07-13 19:26:03
219.   ninjavshippo

yeah, it was hatteberg. i think "regular" players was in terms of whether they had enough ABs

2006-07-13 19:26:07
220.   bobbygrich
BTW Kent was 8 for 16 against Marquis before tonight's game.
2006-07-13 19:27:22
221.   StolenMonkey86
Kearns got traded to the Nats. Thanks, Jim Bowden. Austin Kearns in RFK. Way to kill my fantasy team.
2006-07-13 19:27:55
222.   Bob Timmermann
The big hit for the Reds tonight that provided their winning margin was a 3-run homer by Juan Castro.
2006-07-13 19:28:29
223.   StolenMonkey86
Loney grounded out, though, so no run for Repko.
2006-07-13 19:29:14
224.   Sam DC
I was in a bar in NY watching the first six innings of the game tonight (actually, they put it in just 'cause I asked, so me and sixty new yorkers/tourists were watching the game).

They had a large photo on the wall of the final seconds of the Miracle on Ice game signed by everyone on the team incl. Herb Brooks. A memorabilia shop had loaned it to them and it was on sale for $ _____ .

Curious what your guesses are. I really wanted to buy it.

2006-07-13 19:31:12
225.   StolenMonkey86

Marquis' weakness is giving up homers. We need the Bison!

2006-07-13 19:31:30
226.   Bob Timmermann
2006-07-13 19:32:10
227.   Sam DC
222 Juan Castro was the player through whom I learned the definition of the baseball term "Mendoza Line".

I know, I was an innocent.

2006-07-13 19:33:00
228.   Bluebleeder87

I still believe in the Gio miester!

2006-07-13 19:35:47
229.   Bluebleeder87

to me "Mendoza line" = a great defensive players that "sabermatrics" people can't understand. Izzy

2006-07-13 19:36:07
230.   Goozmani
whats up with a slide-step for broxton?
2006-07-13 19:36:17
231.   thinkingblue
No K zone is that small Eck.
2006-07-13 19:37:46
232.   Sam DC
226 See, the reason I wanted to buy it was it seemed so grossly underpriced to me. This guess is way high.
2006-07-13 19:37:58
233.   thinkingblue
We need the Bison!

He'd K against Izzy for sure.

2006-07-13 19:38:05
234.   Sam DC
232 Well, also cause just what a cool thing to have.
2006-07-13 19:38:49
235.   Bob Timmermann
Cesar Izturis has always been better than Mario Mendoza both offensively and defensively.
2006-07-13 19:39:36
236.   Bob Timmermann
2006-07-13 19:40:29
237.   Uncle Miltie
The umpire must have some kind of personal connection with Tyler Johnson. Rookies don't usually get those kind of calls.
2006-07-13 19:40:56
238.   thinkingblue
JD Drew.

What can we do?

JD K's looking AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Geez, if he gets more money elsewhere h* will have officially frozen over.

2006-07-13 19:41:15
239.   caseybarker
I saw it on ebay buy it now for $450.
2006-07-13 19:41:40
240.   regfairfield
229 You'd actually want a player that hit under .200?
2006-07-13 19:42:02
241.   bobbygrich
226 $1000
2006-07-13 19:42:07
242.   D4P
I'm wearing a $3,000 suit, and you want me to call the curveball for a strike! COME ON!

Nice. GOB died way too young.

2006-07-13 19:42:45
243.   StolenMonkey86
Hey LaRussa can read. Jose Cruz hits lefties.

Wainwright? Ok. Whatever. Just don't tell me that Baez is getting warmed up in the pen to pitch to Pujols.

2006-07-13 19:43:40
244.   Sam DC
We've zeroed right in. $750. Overpriced and underpriced at the exact same time.
2006-07-13 19:45:01
245.   StolenMonkey86
3.5 through the 5.5!
2006-07-13 19:45:48
246.   MartinBillingsley31
Furcal's ops is creaping up to lofton's ops, only 22 points behind.

I find it funny that our catcher and soon our shortstop will be opsing higher than our centerfielder.
Heck izturis is only 7 points behind lofton in ops.

Grady sure waisted centerfield this season.

2006-07-13 19:46:54
247.   StolenMonkey86
I'da PH Saenz here.
2006-07-13 19:48:43
248.   MartinBillingsley31

Small sample size for izturis tho.

2006-07-13 19:49:04
249.   Bob Timmermann
IIRC, close games against the Cardinals last year got everyone here very, very irate.
2006-07-13 19:49:09
250.   D4P
Grady sure waisted centerfield this season.

Ned probably deserves much of the credit/blame. Didn't he give some kind of assurance to K-Lo that he would get a lot of playing time?

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2006-07-13 19:50:34
251.   MartinBillingsley31
Ned probably deserves much of the credit/blame. Didn't he give some kind of assurance to K-Lo that he would get a lot of playing time?

Very true.
And yes i read something about that, i wish i had saved that article.

2006-07-13 19:51:30
252.   StolenMonkey86
I don't know how you don't start Kemp in this game.

Pitcher's spot up in the 10th. Three outs away from Enter Killer Tomato.

2006-07-13 19:51:38
253.   Bluebleeder87
Broxgot, suprises me some times! (great pitch)
2006-07-13 19:52:01
254.   StolenMonkey86
he's struck out Pujols before
2006-07-13 19:53:58
255.   Bluebleeder87
I love Russell "*all out" Martin!
2006-07-13 19:54:23
256.   Bob Timmermann
March 19, 2006
OC Register story by Bill Plunkett

Lofton has not been on the disabled list since 2000. But he will turn 39 at the end of May. The Phillies got his best season in years (.335, 67 runs scored) by limiting his workload to 110 games in 2005, and Dodgers manager Grady Little knows he will have use Lofton in moderation this season.

"To think he can play 150 games might be stretching it," Little said. "But we'll be a better team every day he's out there so we'll try and maximize those days."

2006-07-13 19:55:32
257.   alex 7
2006-07-13 19:55:34
258.   Bluebleeder87
well that made my heart beat a little harder!!*
2006-07-13 19:55:41
259.   StolenMonkey86
Albert Pujols has warning track power!
2006-07-13 19:56:25
260.   MartinBillingsley31
But we'll be a better team every day he's out there

Yea right, quit smoking that funny stuff grady.

2006-07-13 19:56:28
261.   confucius
259 Tell me something I don't know.
2006-07-13 19:56:57
262.   Bluebleeder87

I'll laugh now...(after the cause)

2006-07-13 19:57:24
263.   StolenMonkey86
260 - come on. This was back when Danys Baez was a proven closer.
2006-07-13 19:57:39
264.   bobbygrich
Considering that Lofton has batted second this year and has an OBP over .350, is hitting nearly .300 and scored 40 runs in 64 games (despite what it appears, he has started about 70% of the time), I am pretty sure he is doing what they expected.
2006-07-13 19:57:56
265.   Bluebleeder87
I don't know guys, but is our game to lose!!!
2006-07-13 19:58:49
266.   thinkingblue
But we'll be a better team every day he's out there

In what way will seeing him hit weak grounders and pop ups make us better?

2006-07-13 19:58:50
267.   confucius
255 Heart and soul.
2006-07-13 19:59:06
268.   bobbygrich
264 I will also add that if Kemp ws not so vulnerable to the strike out, he might play some more.
2006-07-13 19:59:07
269.   Uncle Miltie
I love Martin
2006-07-13 19:59:13
270.   StolenMonkey86
Izzy's season OPS: .707
Furcal's season OPS .702

The race is on.

2006-07-13 19:59:30
271.   Bluebleeder87
"sabermatrics" has no love for catchers!!??
2006-07-13 19:59:57
272.   StolenMonkey86
Canada owns the end of the game.
2006-07-13 20:01:43
273.   StolenMonkey86
"Mr. Connery, the category is S Words, not Swords."
"I'm sorry, that's incorrect."
"It began with a bloody S."

That's what goes through my head when I hear Sabermetrics.

2006-07-13 20:01:57
274.   Bob Timmermann
Well, if Gagne were healthy that would be completely true.
2006-07-13 20:02:49
275.   Bluebleeder87

what dose sabermatrics call that play that the Cardinals player 3rd basemend just made???????

2006-07-13 20:02:58
276.   alex 7
Kemp hitting .295 vs righties.
2006-07-13 20:03:02
277.   bobbygrich
266 All I am saying is that this isn't case like Jason Phillips last year, Lofton is doing what they thought he was going to do but I really think playing time is Grady's call.
2006-07-13 20:03:05
278.   StolenMonkey86
The go ahead run is on third, but they don't trust their proven closer either.
2006-07-13 20:03:12
279.   ninjavshippo

i think furcal's OBP can be a little skewed by his SBs, no? isn't that as good as an XBH?

2006-07-13 20:03:52
280.   StolenMonkey86
Enter Tomato.
2006-07-13 20:03:52
281.   Bluebleeder87
but ofcourse "closers" well...
2006-07-13 20:04:04
282.   Uncle Miltie
Double play coming up

Miles just stuck his glove out and got lucky

2006-07-13 20:04:15
283.   bobbygrich
Sure seems like Rafael is back on his offensive game.
2006-07-13 20:04:31
284.   StolenMonkey86
Lining out to 2nd isn't an XBH.
2006-07-13 20:05:04
285.   bobbygrich
Okay, a fly ball is all we need.
2006-07-13 20:05:34
286.   StolenMonkey86
I don't see a double play. Olmedo, then Nomar. Russell Martin will score!
2006-07-13 20:05:41
287.   ninjavshippo
The TomatoMan Cometh!
2006-07-13 20:05:44
288.   D4P
Bob: What's the record for most team infield singles in a season, and how close are we?
2006-07-13 20:06:21
289.   bobbygrich
270 Stolen bases are not a part of anything related to OPS. And no, this is not Chone Figgins where a walk is as good as double.
2006-07-13 20:06:26
290.   regfairfield
279 As of a few days ago, Furcal had a 70.3 stolen base percentage. That's right at the level where its either meaningless, or slightly harmful.

275 I know this is hard to believe, but sabermetrics values defense as well.

2006-07-13 20:06:51
291.   Bob Timmermann
How would OBP be skewed by stolen bases? All that measures is how often you get on base, not which base.

It doesn't affect slugging because that measures how many bases per at bat you get.

Stolen bases factor into a lot of other stats, like runs created.

2006-07-13 20:06:53
292.   Uncle Miltie
Old Maid stinks against right handers
2006-07-13 20:06:59
293.   bobbygrich
288 I would think that record might belong to a team with Ichiro on it.
2006-07-13 20:07:05
294.   StolenMonkey86
This is a Nomar situation.
2006-07-13 20:07:47
295.   Bob Timmermann

I actually was checking the Dodgers alltime singles record and the Dodgers weren't on pace to break that.

2006-07-13 20:08:53
296.   ninjavshippo
291 right, i meant slugging, bob. i mis-typed(mis-tope?). i figure a single + SB should be as good as a double in terms of slugging. i guess you're right about the RC thing, but who cites RC as often as OBP/SLG/OPS?
2006-07-13 20:09:24
297.   Terry A
Bob, if you can imagine this, Al Hrabosky's TV color commentary is even more annoying than Mike Shannon's radio work.

P.S. -- Adam Wainwright is really promising. Pencil him into the Cards' rotation in '07.

2006-07-13 20:09:26
298.   alex 7
LaRussa would have squeezed with Saenz. And because it's LaRussa, it would have worked.
2006-07-13 20:10:34
299.   Bob Timmermann
If you add stolen bases to anything, you have to subtract times caught stealing.
2006-07-13 20:10:45
300.   Terry A
I think that's "squeezened."
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2006-07-13 20:11:13
301.   overkill94
Wow, what a tease of an inning, we're bound to lose the game now.
2006-07-13 20:11:15
302.   natepurcell
We should lose this game base on the fact that we should be punished for not scoring in that inning.
2006-07-13 20:11:16
303.   bobbygrich
296 Bill James
2006-07-13 20:11:19
304.   Uncle Miltie
Game over, these hitter have been pathetic today.
2006-07-13 20:11:31
305.   ninjavshippo

that's fine by me. maybe i'm just looking for a way to sneak it in, since i think it's exciting to watch as a fan.

2006-07-13 20:11:53
306.   Bluebleeder87
it amazes me how major leguers miss simple plays! WOW
2006-07-13 20:12:20
307.   bobbygrich
302 Nate on that basis, the Cards should lose having the bases loaded twice against Chad and not scoring.
2006-07-13 20:12:48
308.   StolenMonkey86
JD Drew due to finally hit a homer?
2006-07-13 20:12:50
309.   regfairfield
Approximate value of a double and a single+steal:

Double: .772 runs
Single+Steal: .643 runs

2006-07-13 20:13:19
310.   natepurcell

Good point. Maybe both teams should be credited with a loss.

2006-07-13 20:13:28
311.   Bob Timmermann
I've heard Hrabosky before, but I really don't think anyone can be as bad as Shannon. That guy is incompetent.

And yet beloved by the people of St. Louis?

Why? Because he's from St. Louis.

They are not picky there.

I was there once on July 4 and watched a fireworks show on TV and the woman who was introducing it made it a point to say that St. Louis had a nicer fireworks show than Kansas City.

2006-07-13 20:14:01
312.   ninjavshippo

that's a cool calculation. how'd you get it?

2006-07-13 20:14:49
313.   StolenMonkey86
I heart Edmonds' splits against lefties.

.176 BA, .525 OPS

2006-07-13 20:16:41
314.   regfairfield
312 The value added system by Tom Ruane. Look under the research section of Retrosheet.
2006-07-13 20:17:03
315.   Bluebleeder87
Beimel.I throw the ball just like him (same arm action)
2006-07-13 20:19:41
316.   Uncle Miltie
Beimel needs to grow his beard back
2006-07-13 20:19:53
317.   StolenMonkey86
Oakland just scored top of the 11th.
2006-07-13 20:19:56
318.   Bluebleeder87
Let's get these Cards!!
2006-07-13 20:20:56
319.   Terry A
Tonight's Shannonism: "The Dodgers picked up this guy (Nomar) off of the heap pile."

Tonight's Hraboskyism: "That'll bring in a pinch-hitter... looks like Seanez. Rudy Sean... oh, no, Saenz... that's how you pronounce it. Rudy Saenz."

Hard to argue with you on Shannon. He truly is a nightmare.

2006-07-13 20:21:24
320.   Sam DC
My gameday has frozen at 3-1 to Molina . . .

it's not fun waiting.

2006-07-13 20:21:51
321.   Bluebleeder87
are we heading into 17 innings???
2006-07-13 20:22:21
322.   Bob Timmermann

Shannon has to be drinking. That's the only explanation.

2006-07-13 20:22:53
323.   StolenMonkey86
We're going to see Toby Hall catch 9 innings and Derek Lowe play shortstop, kids.
2006-07-13 20:23:25
324.   Sam DC
Meanwhile, on espn, Buck Martinez is earnestly and at length explaining that, with Oakland's two run lead, it would be better to groove one and let Ortiz hit a homer than walk him and give Manny a chance to tie it with one shot.

But, Buck, if Ortiz homers, Manny's shot still ties it.

2006-07-13 20:23:36
325.   StolenMonkey86
Actually I have no idea. What's going on, someone with something slightly more efficient than Gameday?
2006-07-13 20:24:03
326.   Jon Weisman
321 - With all the time off this week, the Dodgers are in good shape to tackle a 42-inning game. In the 43rd inning, however, you may have to see Matt Kemp pitch.
2006-07-13 20:24:33
327.   Uncle Miltie
Clutch walk by DJ

Steiner "Juan En-Car-Nar-Cion"
It's up a step up from "En-Car-Nation"

2006-07-13 20:24:43
328.   bobbygrich
325 Drew walks.
2006-07-13 20:24:49
329.   Bob Timmermann

Buck Martinez is the guy who is going to pack a bomb in his suitcase because what are the odds of TWO guys with bombs in their suitcases on one airplane?

2006-07-13 20:25:10
330.   Sam DC
326 Don't you think Kemp would find a way to end it in the 42nd in honor of Jackie Robinson?
2006-07-13 20:25:35
331.   Bluebleeder87

will Valenzuela play 1st & Murray play 3rd??

2006-07-13 20:26:15
332.   underdog
argh, yeah, GameDay's stuck, so I'm getting play by play from... you guys!

Stupid MLB Audio crashed on me and won't let me back in... grumble...

And Yahoo's stuck too.


2006-07-13 20:26:53
333.   Terry A
When isn't Shannon drinking?
2006-07-13 20:27:19
334.   bobbygrich
I think gameday is down all the way around.
2006-07-13 20:27:28
335.   Bob Timmermann
Cruz flies out to center.
2006-07-13 20:27:56
336.   ninjavshippo

how does all this stuff stop feeding us at the same time? is there one person at the game, inputting all this, so if they go down, all the services fail?

2006-07-13 20:28:12
337.   underdog
Thanks Bob. Can you type it in the way the Rick Monday would, though? Maybe a malapropism, a few words missing, or something?
2006-07-13 20:28:27
338.   Bluebleeder87

I'm guilty of drinking today guys! (loving every minute of this game!!)

2006-07-13 20:28:40
339.   underdog
It must be one guy, one possibly narcoleptic guy?
2006-07-13 20:29:36
340.   underdog
Well CBS Sportsline is working okay, although still pretty slow, one batter behind.

2006-07-13 20:29:48
341.   StolenMonkey86
They're using Windows 95?
2006-07-13 20:30:08
342.   Bob Timmermann
So what do you have here?
Well, you've got a runner on first in JD Drew.

And you have a hitter like young Andre Ethier.

What would you want Ethier to do here, Jerry?

I think a hit would be a good idea, Rick.

2006-07-13 20:30:35
343.   Sam DC
Kapler with a 12 (or so) pitch 2 out walk; Varitek up in Bos.
2006-07-13 20:30:51
344.   Bluebleeder87
I didn't experience the 17 inning "love affair" from Oakland, so let's see what happens today.
2006-07-13 20:31:19
345.   MartinBillingsley31
I don't know about anyone else but gameday freezes on me once every game, its like the person running it goes to the restroom or something. LOL!

But today it has frozen twice now.

2006-07-13 20:31:49
346.   Terry A
One out, Drew on first, Ethier facing Isringhausen with a 3-2 count...

Ethier with a swinging bunt to move Drew to 2B with 2 out, Izturis up.

2006-07-13 20:32:19
347.   Bob Timmermann
I assume that the problems are with the servers.
2006-07-13 20:32:23
348.   Uncle Miltie
LaRussa has gone insane...
2006-07-13 20:32:50
349.   StolenMonkey86
Awesome. Intentionally walk Izzy to get to Russell Martin.
2006-07-13 20:32:50
350.   regfairfield
This could be the worst idea in history.
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2006-07-13 20:32:54
351.   Terry A
They are IBB'ing Izturis, no doubt out of respect for his soon-to-arrive baby.

Russell Martin up...

2006-07-13 20:32:56
352.   MartinBillingsley31
Gameday is working for me now, i guess the guy is back from the restroom. LOL!
2006-07-13 20:33:17
353.   regfairfield
Gameday's back by the way.
2006-07-13 20:34:00
354.   Sam DC
Tek singles in Bos; Lowell up.
2006-07-13 20:35:08
355.   Uncle Miltie
And it worked. Horrible at bat by Martin. He swung at what looked like a slider.
2006-07-13 20:35:22
356.   Sam DC
Over in Bos. As 5-4. Lowell tapped out 1-3.
2006-07-13 20:37:42
357.   underdog
Argh. Russell.... sigh.
2006-07-13 20:37:52
358.   Bob Timmermann
The graphic that showed La Russa's alltime winning percentage in extra innings at .529 failed to note that his overall winning percentage is higher. It was .537 coming into the season and the Cardinals are playing above that this year.
2006-07-13 20:39:13
359.   confucius
I don't think Biemel should be in still.
2006-07-13 20:39:42
360.   underdog
Wow, credit where credit is due - Beimel pitched purty darned well there.
2006-07-13 20:39:51
361.   Terry A
In the interest of fairness, Furcal has really been solid tonight, both at the plate and in the field.
2006-07-13 20:41:47
362.   Uncle Miltie
Keep shaving Joe..

What's with the Eckstein love fest. It's getting pretty ridiculous.

"He's just a baseball player. He plays the game and plays it well"

Ok, we get it; people like him because he's short, but it doesn't mean you have to overrate him. He's an average defender at best and is a pretty mediocre hitter. He can hit some singles, but he doesn't run very well.

2006-07-13 20:41:53
363.   confucius
359 This is why I'm a big league manager - foresight like this.
2006-07-13 20:42:58
364.   Bob Timmermann
Broadcasters like Eckstein because he is a genuinely nice guy. He tries hard. He's very polite and forthright. He's not putting on an act.
2006-07-13 20:43:49
365.   regfairfield
Credit where credit is due: St. Louis Eckstein and his .370 on base can play for me any day.
2006-07-13 20:44:02
366.   underdog
Did I mention I hate MLB Audio? It crashes three times and then won't let me back in - "Sorry, You've logged in too many times today. Please try again later." (Like, tomorrow.)
2006-07-13 20:44:21
367.   natepurcell
Furry is having a nice game.
2006-07-13 20:44:45
368.   Uncle Miltie
Furcal is due for a big 2nd half
2006-07-13 20:45:16
369.   bobbygrich
Rafael is really beginning to go the other way.
2006-07-13 20:45:23
370.   natepurcell
If that is not a strike to furcal, that is not a strike to kemp. come on ump.
2006-07-13 20:45:39
371.   bobbygrich
369 No jokes please.
2006-07-13 20:46:20
372.   underdog
GameDay's stuck again. Who's pinch hitting for Beimel?
2006-07-13 20:46:44
373.   underdog
Ah... there it is. Go Kemp!
2006-07-13 20:46:48
374.   Sam DC
In my wanderings looking for somewhere that would show the game tonight I walked by Rupert's Hello Deli.

I was sad it was closed.

2006-07-13 20:46:56
375.   StolenMonkey86
2006-07-13 20:47:20
376.   underdog
Er... so much for Kemp. Go Nomar!
2006-07-13 20:47:26
377.   regfairfield
Now the Yadier Molina praise, you can be against.
2006-07-13 20:47:31
378.   StolenMonkey86
Nomar, take 3!
2006-07-13 20:47:40
379.   Bob Timmermann
4th most clutch hitter? How do you rank something that subjective?
2006-07-13 20:47:59
380.   Steve
370 -- were any of them strikes? (I am listening on the radio) They never are to Kemp for some reason.
2006-07-13 20:48:39
381.   regfairfield
Average with RISP without taking his normal average into account? Who knows.
2006-07-13 20:48:58
382.   natepurcell

called strike 3 was a strike. it was a good pitch.

2006-07-13 20:49:43
383.   Uncle Miltie
364- I'd rather have a jerk who can play defense and has at least 1 above average tool. Eckstein is probably a good guy, but he belongs on the bench.
2006-07-13 20:49:51
384.   underdog
I really think Kemp needs to go to AAA to work on hitting off speed stuff and being more patient (and then he'll be back again in a month or 2).

Did Nomar hit that as hard as GameDay made it seem?

2006-07-13 20:50:21
385.   Bob Timmermann
Say hello to Rafael Furcal!
2006-07-13 20:50:37
386.   StolenMonkey86
Grady does not trust Danys Baez at all.
2006-07-13 20:50:53
387.   Jon Weisman
384 - But who throws good offspeed stuff in the minors?
2006-07-13 20:51:32
388.   Terry A
According to Hrabosky, SAH-doe is now pitching for the Dodgers, and he's the fifth Japanese pitcher to appear in MLB since the Dodgers signed the first, HIGH-deo Nomo.
2006-07-13 20:51:40
389.   Uncle Miltie
Whether we win or lose, I commend Grits for using Saito here. Tracy would have used Baez.
2006-07-13 20:52:13
390.   Steve
387 -- Lance Carter!
2006-07-13 20:52:34
391.   Jon Weisman
389 - Ditto.
2006-07-13 20:52:49
392.   Bob Timmermann
You ever tried to eat Japanese food in St. Louis?

It ain't easy to find.

2006-07-13 20:53:37
393.   Steve
Who killed Saito and replaced him with Jae Seo?
2006-07-13 20:54:19
394.   Bluebleeder87

I love how you discrive things Bob.

2006-07-13 20:54:26
395.   bobbygrich
386 I wouldn't make that assumption, I am thinking that he just wants to get out of this inning.

Baez is the more likely candidate to pitch more than one inning.

2006-07-13 20:55:13
396.   bobbygrich
387 That's probably true, I think he would go there just to play everyday.
2006-07-13 20:58:22
397.   Terry A
365 - Eckstein belongs at the top of a batting order. I do not believe he belongs at shortstop. His arm begs for a move to 2B.

Actually, his arm begs for a relay man. But since Eckstein seems like a nice little boy, I will refrain from insulting him further.

2006-07-13 20:58:33
398.   Bluebleeder87
dose this = nail bitening time???
2006-07-13 20:58:58
399.   underdog
387 Hah! I was going to say Lance too. Ya beat me too it. Um... I dunno... some good major leaguer on a rehabbing assignment?
2006-07-13 20:59:21
400.   alex 7
maybe go after rolen and IBB Edmonds instead? any numbers on why he's more likely to get edmonds out than rolen? or just wishful thinking on a dp ball?
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2006-07-13 20:59:38
401.   Terry A
Hey, Izturis just drove in a run with his glove.
2006-07-13 21:00:41
402.   Bluebleeder87

sabermatrics agree with me???

2006-07-13 21:00:48
403.   StolenMonkey86
401 - Was that one of those slow roller plays?
2006-07-13 21:01:54
404.   Sam DC
MSNBC just ran a promo: "Mice On A Plane."

Doesn't have quite the same oomph . . .

2006-07-13 21:01:55
405.   Bluebleeder87
STOP 'UM SAITO strikes again.
2006-07-13 21:01:58
406.   underdog
Domo arigato, Mr. Saito.

Nicely done high wire act.

2006-07-13 21:02:27
407.   Bob Timmermann
Eckstein's first appearances in the majors were at second base for the Angels because Adam Kennedy was hurt.

Once Kennedy got back, the Angels realized he hit pretty well. And definitely better than Benji Gil.

So perhaps his epitaph will be "Better Than Benji Gil"

2006-07-13 21:02:58
408.   Terry A
402 - I'm sorry, but I have no idea what that means. If you'll explain further, I'll try to catch up.

403 - More like a chopper that died early in the wet turf. Izturis really made a nice play and strong throw.

2006-07-13 21:03:03
409.   StolenMonkey86
Saito plays Billingsley's game.
2006-07-13 21:03:29
410.   Bob Timmermann
Actually it was a high bounce off of a check swing.
2006-07-13 21:04:26
411.   Uncle Miltie
The Magic Man does it again. For a guy with a 90 mph fastball, Saito is pretty dominating. His control is impeccable and his deceptive delivery makes it hard to pick up balls coming out his hand.
2006-07-13 21:06:30
412.   alex 7
the Dodgers' #2 through #6 hitters are 2 for 26 today.
2006-07-13 21:06:47
413.   Bluebleeder87

I love people that discrive what I can't say!!

2006-07-13 21:08:26
414.   underdog
408 I refer you to 338 for an explanation.
2006-07-13 21:09:49
415.   Steve
Hard to believe he was the 25th guy on the roster. But flanders has always had a keen eye for relief pitchers.
2006-07-13 21:10:04
416.   StolenMonkey86
Saito still in
2006-07-13 21:10:23
417.   Bob Timmermann
Old Friend Alert!
2006-07-13 21:10:34
418.   scareduck
Weaver? Pinch-hitting?
2006-07-13 21:11:03
419.   alex 7
gameday says ethier and molina were a few pushups shy of go-ahead HRs.
2006-07-13 21:11:37
420.   underdog
There must be something wrong with my GameDay. It says Jeff Weaver is pinch hitting. Um, right?
2006-07-13 21:11:53
421.   Bob Timmermann

A whole lot of pushups shy of HRs.

2006-07-13 21:12:18
422.   Bob Timmermann
Old Friend Alert!
2006-07-13 21:12:33
423.   scareduck
He struck out.
2006-07-13 21:12:53
424.   King of the Hobos
418 Marquis wasn't available, and I'm sure Weaver is a better hitter than Gary Bennett.
2006-07-13 21:13:23
425.   Bluebleeder87
Saito will start drothing, offspeed picthins
2006-07-13 21:13:49
426.   alex 7
sb situation here.
2006-07-13 21:13:59
427.   Bob Timmermann
Really, what's the point in wasting your last "real" hitter in this situation. If Bennett were to make an out and the game went longer, La Russa would then be stuck having somebody like Weaver pinch hit in a situation where he HAD to get a hit.
2006-07-13 21:14:01
428.   Uncle Miltie
Grits must not know the history between Perez and Pujols
2006-07-13 21:14:04
429.   King of the Hobos
Steiner now refers to Odalis as Odie?
2006-07-13 21:14:12
430.   StolenMonkey86
you know what that means.

Home run in the 14th by Cesar Izturis.

2006-07-13 21:15:27
431.   Bluebleeder87
Saito rocks!!*
2006-07-13 21:16:18
432.   Bluebleeder87

like I said Saito rocks!!!

2006-07-13 21:16:26
433.   Uncle Miltie
Kent wouldn't have caught that
2006-07-13 21:16:57
434.   underdog
Well Saito did his part. Now the Dodgers have to score in the top of the next inning to have a shot, methinks...
2006-07-13 21:17:43
435.   StolenMonkey86
433 - looking at where it went on gameday, you're right.
2006-07-13 21:18:16
436.   StolenMonkey86
off Jeff Weaver :)
2006-07-13 21:20:55
437.   StolenMonkey86
Weaver was just PH-ing. Boo.
2006-07-13 21:21:09
438.   Steve
Benitez hypothesis time.
2006-07-13 21:21:11
439.   Jon Weisman
Wow, Odalis Perez facing Albert Pujols in the bottom of the 14th. I dare say that's not a good matchup.
2006-07-13 21:22:23
440.   StolenMonkey86
439 - Mommy!
2006-07-13 21:22:30
441.   underdog
Is GameDay broken again or is there a streaker running across the field delaying te game? What's going on?
2006-07-13 21:23:02
442.   alex 7
no baez vs the righties? not that pujols or rolen struggle vs righties, but still. Kind of a poke at Midas huh?
2006-07-13 21:23:17
443.   regfairfield
On the bright side, I think Pujols has a less than 50% chance of hitting a jack off OP based on their history.
2006-07-13 21:23:36
444.   underdog
439 Given how he did in St Louis in the playoff game season before last, which I still vividly recall, well, I want my mommy too.
2006-07-13 21:23:47
445.   Bob Timmermann
There was a streaker on the field, but he was shot down by the snipers the Cardinals employ to maintain security.

Then the Gateway Arch fell over.

But they should be back in business soon.

2006-07-13 21:23:56
446.   alex 7
underdog, the streaker is toby hall. really wants to get traded.
2006-07-13 21:24:21
447.   Steve
Reuss just called him Luis pujols.
2006-07-13 21:24:26
448.   Johnson
Reuss just called Albert Pujols "Luis". There are no words.
2006-07-13 21:24:26
449.   Jon Weisman
I think Odalis Perez wanting his mommy is what started all his problems this year.
2006-07-13 21:25:09
450.   Uncle Miltie
Game plan for Perez: Pitch to Taguchi, hit Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds, pitch to Luna and Molina.
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2006-07-13 21:25:12
451.   Johnson
Apparently there are no words takes about 5 seconds to type.
2006-07-13 21:25:58
452.   Terry A
Where'd they get Reuss? Off the heap pile?
2006-07-13 21:26:12
453.   regfairfield
Little is not putting Odalis in a position to succeed.
2006-07-13 21:26:39
454.   underdog
Hah hah. I was thinking Rick Monday could go after the streaker, but only if they're burning the flag. Or Toby Hall.
2006-07-13 21:28:28
455.   bobbygrich
I do think at some point Odalis had to pitch because if this game continues, you are going to need someone to throw for a while. Also Aaron Sele might be available for an inning.
2006-07-13 21:28:53
456.   Jon Weisman
That was a good 3-2 pitch to So (fouled off), putting aside the fact you don't want to 3-2 to him.
2006-07-13 21:29:12
457.   Jon Weisman
The next pitch was dangerous.
2006-07-13 21:29:39
458.   Terry A
Toby Hall catching, Odalis pitching.

Showcase! (Are you watching, Mr. Krivsky?)

2006-07-13 21:29:48
459.   Jon Weisman
455 - Every Dodger starting pitcher is available for 5-8 innings, so no worries!
2006-07-13 21:30:08
460.   StolenMonkey86
This is where we find out if Odalis is a worthwhile reliever.
2006-07-13 21:30:09
461.   ddger
442 I also don't know why Baez has not been used so far. Is Grady saving him for a save situation or is he so unreliable that Odalis is preferred instead of Baez.
2006-07-13 21:30:29
462.   bobbygrich
The reason Jason Marquis won 11 games, he is 8-0 when the Cards score 6 runs or more, 3-7 when they score 5 or less.
2006-07-13 21:30:38
463.   scareduck
OP is pitching to Pujols... why?

That girl they gave a closeup shot in the stands looked like she was about to pass out.

2006-07-13 21:31:01
464.   Steve
I like reuss truth be told. He is easy to listen to.
2006-07-13 21:31:33
465.   Uncle Miltie
That was predictable
2006-07-13 21:31:35
466.   Jon Weisman
463 - Yeah. You just got to go ahead and walk him.
2006-07-13 21:31:38
467.   scareduck
That was why OP was up there. Grady Little wanted to get back to his hotel.
2006-07-13 21:31:39
468.   King of the Hobos
450 He really should have stuck to the game plan.
2006-07-13 21:31:47
469.   bobbygrich
458 This might be the all-time most p**d off battery for the Dodgers in a long time.
2006-07-13 21:31:53
470.   Greg S
460- Uh, nope.
2006-07-13 21:32:32
471.   underdog

Was that predictable or what?
I swear I saw the words "in play run scoring play" pop into my head just before that.


Odie... mumble... grumble...

2006-07-13 21:32:32
472.   StolenMonkey86
Well, gee, there's a shocker.
2006-07-13 21:32:36
473.   Uncle Miltie
I am now in favor of releasing FTOG. If he's not smart enough to hit/walk Pujols, then he shouldn't be on this team.
2006-07-13 21:32:47
474.   regfairfield
So was Grady the only one in the stadium who didn't know to walk Pujols.
2006-07-13 21:33:32
475.   Nagman
OP before Baez made no sense whatsoever, unless Baez is not available.
2006-07-13 21:33:37
476.   underdog
Why on earth didn't they just walk him? I mean, really...
2006-07-13 21:33:37
477.   alex 7
is anyone else laughing a little? I mean, I love the Dodgers and all, but it's a little funny right?
2006-07-13 21:33:49
478.   MartinBillingsley31
Well winnie the poooooo wins it.
2006-07-13 21:34:28
479.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
471 - You did. It said "Pitch 5 - in play, run scoring play" for quite a bit before it said that Pujols homered, and I sat there thinking that the only way a run could score was that...

Feh. 14 innings down the drain...

2006-07-13 21:34:33
480.   Bob Timmermann
I found it quite humorous. Mainly because baseball is usually not that predictable.
2006-07-13 21:34:36
481.   alex 7
we did have a few chances to score in the last couple of innings...
2006-07-13 21:34:44
482.   underdog
Not like anyone would be too confident in Baez coming in either, mind you...

477 Funny, like a kick to the groin, yes.

2006-07-13 21:35:19
483.   bobbygrich
that's 5 home runs in 19 plate appearances. I still think that ultimately it's the players but that seemed like the wrong part of the line up to do that.
2006-07-13 21:35:27
484.   Steve
Not to put too fine a point on it, but odalis Perez remains unfit to pitch five pitch to kindergarteners.
2006-07-13 21:35:36
485.   alex 7
and if you want to giggle to relieve stress, look at OPs picture on gameday.
2006-07-13 21:36:02
486.   Blu2
The ghost of Jim Tracey was here tonight extracting his revenge.
2006-07-13 21:36:07
487.   underdog
Night all. I'm going to cry myself to sleep now.

Well, not really, but I am going to not think about baseball for at least 12 hours.

2006-07-13 21:36:09
488.   Uncle Miltie
If Pujols ever enters the home run derby, Perez can be his batting practice pitcher.
2006-07-13 21:36:15
489.   Greg S
The Dodges should have known... if there's one guy you don't let beat you, it's Perez.
2006-07-13 21:36:31
490.   bobbygrich
The Dodgers when they score 2 runs 1-8.
2006-07-13 21:36:36
491.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
476 - I don't know if I agree that you walk Pujols there. I mean, you choose to put the winning run on base with one out? Sure, a ground ball gets you out of it, but a homerun wasn't a sure thing.

Now, you'll all start saying that because Perez was pitching it was, but you gotta pitch to people to get outs...

2006-07-13 21:37:19
492.   scooplew
After we failed to score with runners on first and third with none out (10th inning?), you could see something awful coming. I wonder what OP's excuse is going to be. What a bad way to start the second half of the season.
2006-07-13 21:37:24
493.   regfairfield
Does this remind anyone else of the Pedro incident? Everyone knew that Odalis was going to give up the jack, yet Grady left him in anyway.
2006-07-13 21:37:28
494.   bobbygrich
At least I did not have to hear Mike Shannon yell get up there.
2006-07-13 21:38:03
495.   Uncle Miltie
485- that didn't make me laugh, he's still wearing a Dodgers hat...
2006-07-13 21:38:08
496.   herman
That was a lucky homerun. He barely hit that ball. LOL
O. Perez is so unlucky. That ball barely made it over the fence. LOL
2006-07-13 21:38:09
497.   regfairfield
491 That's true, if it's not Odalis facing Pujols.
2006-07-13 21:38:32
498.   D4P
Dodger shortstops: 22 - 2 - 9 - 2
Everyone else: 29 - 0 - 2 - 0
2006-07-13 21:39:14
499.   alex 7
OPs excuse will obviously be that if the offense had done its job, he wouldn't have had to take the loss.
2006-07-13 21:39:15
500.   bobbygrich
493 Like Bob said, Pujols against OP is the wrong example but its pretty hard to predict that, obviously in this situation, Pujols is looking to hit the ball out so one in the dirt is probably not a bad call.
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2006-07-13 21:40:13
501.   Steve
Grittle gets a minimum amount of blame. But we are talking the choice between FTOGS and the CMC. He's not looking at much. Too bad robin Ventura retired.
2006-07-13 21:40:25
502.   bobbygrich
The sad thing is that (or good thing) is that just like the Oakland game, the way we have pitched, its too bad that we couldn't win this game.
2006-07-13 21:43:03
503.   Steve
Perez should have walked pujols in the NLDS. But he didn't and thus FJT was born.
2006-07-13 21:43:06
504.   D4P
Shouldn't a team with heart, character, and leadership be able to win extra inning games?
2006-07-13 21:43:25
505.   Jon Weisman
476 - I meant that once it was ball 3. Once OP knew AP wasn't going after his pitch, surrender.
2006-07-13 21:43:30
506.   regfairfield
It just baffles me that Grady doesn't trust OP all year, then he throws him into this situation.
2006-07-13 21:45:38
507.   D4P
Would you have preferred CMC...?
2006-07-13 21:46:37
508.   regfairfield
507 In a heart beat. I wasn't 100% positive that Baez would give up a jack to Pujols, and I like Odalis.
2006-07-13 21:46:47
509.   Steve
Check that. It was Alvarez who should have walked him for rolen, who at the time was standing on one leg. I told you we need to make a scrapbook.
2006-07-13 21:46:53
510.   Jon Weisman
Herman, LOL is what people type when they laugh at other people's jokes, not at their own.
2006-07-13 21:47:04
511.   scooplew
Dodgers' record this season in games in which Perez has pitched: 4-13. Dodgers' record this season in games in which Perez has not pitched: 42-30.
Dodgers' record in last 10 games in which OP has pitched: 0-10. (That streak began on May 26).
Dodgers" record in games in which OP has pitched and in which he was not the winning pitcher: 0-13
2006-07-13 21:49:12
512.   King of the Hobos
Apparently I missed the discussion that led to the creation of CMC and FTOGS, what do they mean?
2006-07-13 21:50:09
513.   Jon Weisman
511 - For the most part, the team has already been losing when he enters the game, right? How many games has he pitched with a lead as a reliever?
2006-07-13 21:50:19
514.   herman
John, I think I'm funny. LOL
2006-07-13 21:50:56
515.   King of the Hobos
511 That's a little unfair, as Odalis has generally been used in only two situations: when he starts and when the Dodgers are guarunteed a loss.
2006-07-13 21:54:57
516.   ddger
Is bringing in Perez to face Pujols like bringing in Kuo with bases loaded where you know what will happen?
2006-07-13 22:19:56
517.   Midwest Blue
I happen to agree with 492 that it never should have gotten to OP vs. AP. Furcal should have squeezed in Russ from 3rd base and that would have been the end of it.

I lay this one on Grits.

2006-07-13 22:21:12
518.   dsfan
Of late, Saito seems to be working much harder to get his outs. Longshot here, but perhaps Baez became more of a last resort after Saito throws as many pitches as he did tonight.
I know, Saito was coming off several days' rest, but if you're skeptical about Saito's availability for tomorrow and you're thinking Baez could be needed as tomorrow's closer, maybe that little factor on the margin puts Odalis out there. (And if you're thinking Baez is your de facto closer tonight as well, post-Saito, you also lean away from having him start the 14th).

And maybe Odalis needs to show a little more veteran's wisdom there and just walk Pujols after he's shown he won't chase the garbage.

On the whole, however, it's the offense that was most disappointing. Drew just seems to disappear for long stretches.

And I'll say it again: If Kent blew out that oblique, the medical staff has some explaining to do, given the litany of failed and seemingly premature medical comebacks in recent years.

2006-07-13 22:33:36
519.   Bob Timmermann

Funny is Jan Murray at a Friars Club roast.

You sir are no Jan Murrary.

2006-07-13 22:40:29
520.   scooplew
513 and 515
Those are fair observations. In the last 10 games in which OP has appeared, in which the club is 0-10, he was the starter and loser twice, entered with the team losing seven times, and entered once with the game tied (tonight). In his other seven games, he was the starter and winner four times, the starter and loser once, and in two other games he had no decision as a starter. The fact that he is generally brought in to relieve in games in which the club is losing -- so he can't even achieve a mighty "hold" -- demonstrates that Little has no confidence in him. OP has been relgated to mop-up status. The McCourts are paying him $9.5 million this season.
2006-07-14 04:11:21
521.   Sam DC
Oh dear, some fine thoughtful comments by Perez after the game I see.

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