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A Quick Entourage Comment
2006-07-17 11:00
by Jon Weisman

Sunday's episode might have been the best of the season, but there were these nagging plot questions:

1) Why did Ari pick that day of all days not to get in his car and try to meet Vince face-to-face, instead of waiting by the phone?

2) Why didn't Ari actually text Eric with the life-or-death problem they were facing, instead of just cursing and ranting?

Ari is mercurial, but he's not stupid. It didn't make sense to me that he chained himself to his desk until after the 4 p.m. deadline passed.

2006-07-17 11:27:25
1.   the OZ
Questions like those are why I can't appreciate Fox's '24'. The writers seem to conveniently transition from one problem to the next without any underlying logic or consistency.

Still, a good episode, and gives the show's fans some tension [finally] going into the rest of the season.

2006-07-17 11:28:19
2.   Underbruin
It perplexed me somewhat as well. I thought perhaps he was waiting for one of his team to get him information on a job for Drama - note that he did indeed head over there once Lloyd found Drama that audition.

Plus, with the way Vince had been acting, a face-to-face could have very easily been the wrong move, as evidenced by the fact that when Ari did show up Vince blew up at him.

Lastly, it's a TV show. I often get in trouble with friends when pointing out logical fallacies, so it's become a habit to try and not notice problems like these if at all possible - it makes the viewing less problematic. :)

2006-07-17 11:31:40
3.   Xeifrank
Who is Entourage? Is it a player in our minor league system?
vr, Xei
2006-07-17 11:31:47
4.   Disabled List
Entourage is not a show where one should be overly scrutinous of plot details. Anytime there's an epic Ari scene, the show rocks. The more vulgar, the better.

His description of the kind of role he wanted his agents to find for Drama made last night's episode a classic. (I believe it involved silverback gorillas.)

2006-07-17 11:33:57
5.   Jon Weisman
2 - I think the episode was completely enjoyable despite this - I was mainly wondering if it was just me thinking this was a flaw.

It didn't bother me on the scale of something like "Grey's Anatomy," which throws logic completely out the window at some point in almost every episode.

2006-07-17 11:34:10
6.   Underbruin
3 - He hit .327/.412/.569 in AA ball last year. You didn't hear about him?
2006-07-17 11:35:23
7.   Underbruin
5 - No, you're not the only one, it kinda nagged at me too. I can't even watch Grey's Anatomy because of issues like that, despite the good things the show does do.
2006-07-17 11:44:33
8.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
1) - In Los Angeles, driving somewhere when you can't be sure that the person will be there is a fool's errand. Only at the end of the day did Ari start to take the big risk of putting himself in motion. Plus, he took seriously Drama's threat that if he didn't get him a job, he couldn't talk to Vince.

2) - Good question. But I think a better question is, was Ari lying that Benicio got the other part? And, this other thing bugs me: why does WB get to break the contract with Vince and bring in another actor but Vince can't break the contract with WB for fear of lawsuit?

2006-07-17 11:54:53
9.   Jon Weisman

1) True enough, but the one place Ari knew Vince wouldn't be was his office. Given that he has a working cell phone, I don't see a reason for Ari not to stake out the house or something like that.

2) Maybe the contract has some vaguely defined morals clause?

2006-07-17 12:57:14
10.   the OZ
8 Regarding (2), It would seem weird that the situation went from Paul Haggis adjusting his production schedule for Vince's sake to making an offer to Benicio del Toro within the span of 48 hours without at least making a phone call to Ari/Eric/Vince before making the switch.

I immediately suspected that Ari was lying about Benicio. We'll probably never know for sure.

2006-07-17 13:23:21
11.   Jon Weisman
10 - I don't think that part is unreasonably weird but it did also occur to me that Ari was lying.
2006-07-17 13:35:16
12.   Andrew Shimmin
I don't understand why Ari didn't just lie to Drama about getting him a job. If that's what it cost to get Vince on the phone, why wouldn't he do it? Maybe not during the first call that morning, but definitely by the 3:30 call.
2006-07-17 13:39:29
13.   mintxcore
The whole "replaced by jake gyllenhaal" thing is directly from real life. I remember there were tons of rumors when Spiderman 2 was in the making that Gyllenhaal was gonna take over for "Toby Mac" because of contract disputes or some such nonsense.

Who thinks by the end of the season Drama and Turtle will be the ones making all the money while Vinnie is gonna be doing the Surreal Life.

2006-07-17 13:42:02
14.   dzzrtRatt
I think the lesson of this episode is no good threesome goes unpunished.

The writers contrived the "Drama wants a job" and "E wants a three-way" subplots to ensure Ari couldn't reach Vince, and that E would be out of the loop. But neither explains why Ari wouldn't use the blackberry to explain the situation to E.

I enjoyed last night's show, too, but now that you mention it, the whole plot was painfully contrived to create the crisis that will obviously propel the rest of the season. Hopefully the way it works out will be so good, we won't care.

Also, having Ari stay in his office did allow him to run some great Ari-shtick. Since that's why most people watch the show, they have to let him do this thing once in awhile.

2006-07-17 13:46:54
15.   Jon Weisman
14 - The show hit a valley earlier this year with its fifth-wheel episodes, and I've always felt it's a little underserving of all the hype. But it does have some pricless little moments. The Drama-Lloyd relationship bonding was another.
2006-07-17 14:37:58
16.   mintxcore
15 - the fifth-wheel stuff wasnt that great but you gotta admit the kid who was dating Aris daughter was an amazing villian for Ari.
2006-07-17 14:45:10
17.   Jon Weisman
16 - I wouldn't say "amazing" - the kid was so unredeemable that it sort of lost something for me - but the plotting there was very clever.

What I wondered was what the kid saw in Ari's daughter - whether it was sincere affection or that he was Machiavellian in his own way.

2006-07-17 16:02:50
18.   LAT
I hope we are past the Dom thing. Although he was gone so fast I am afraid he will show up again.

I want to see Lloyd's character developed some more. He is a riot. I want him to get Drama a job and become a newbie agent.

Ari rants are entertaining but they are grwoing old as they are now more about shock value. Agree with Jon on the kid he is such a punk who really cares about him.

Me, I'm just greatful that after all these years I know what we are talking about. I don't watch 24, Lost, Curb or Arrested but I love Entourage.

One more thing, Ratt is right the threesome is going the way of Chasing Amy, i.e. threesomes only lead to bad things. Sadly, we have reached the point of threesome backlash.

2006-07-17 16:44:21
19.   EricNus
I think this whole episode existed for the sake of getting Vince out of Aquaman. If he was caught up in that franchise, the show would be boring and nobody would be turning on HBO at 10 on Sunday nights for those 25 clever minutes. I think Vince just might end up doing the Haggis movie, seeing as how he and Ari previously talked about flip flopping between pet projects and studio flicks. Or perhaps not. My question is this:

When does Queen's Boulevard come out? And wouldn't that have just as damaging of an impact on the Aquaman franchise as the Haggis flick?

2006-07-18 12:30:42
20.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
17 - the kid doesn't have to see much in Ari's daughter: she lives next door and dotes on him, so he gets an easy, quick fix of validation. Besides, since it isn't "exclusive" (as he explained to Ari at Magic Mountain), he gets what he wants and isn't constrained by it. Pretty sophisticated game-play for a kid!

19 - I got the impression that Vince's character in Queens Boulevard was more resembling of Vince's childhood neighborhood, and would not be quite the same as playing "one of the most brutally ruthless, ambitious and powerful drug dealers in history" (source: Wikipedia). Plus, Haggis' next film is assured much more attention than an indie pic. Haggis is now a draw, after the Crash Oscar, while Vince, post Aquaman, would be the main draw of Queens Boulevard.

(BTW, Queens is a borough in New York. "Queen's Boulevard" would be confused with a Boulevard belonging to a Queen.)

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