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Dessert Island Blogs
2006-07-19 17:10
by Jon Weisman

There are no typos in the headline.

If you were stranded on a remote island with only a coupon for your two favorite desserts and a computer that had access to nothing but Dodger Thoughts and three other blogs of your choosing, what would your desserts and blogs be?

* * *

Tonight's Game

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2006-07-19 17:18:02
1.   Bob Timmermann
1. Chocolate souffle
2. Blueberry cobbler
3. Baseball Musings
4. Catfish Stew
5. Baseball Analysts

I left off the Griddle because if I'm stranded somewhere I don't want to do any extra work.

2006-07-19 17:20:02
2.   Marty
I'm not a dessert person but here goes:

~Carrot Cake
~Banana Cream Pie

~L.A. Observed
~Fire Joe Morgan

This also reminds me of a great sign that used to exist on a wall in Pasadena:
"My people are people of the dessert said T.E. Lawrence picking up his fork"

2006-07-19 17:21:21
3.   Linkmeister
German Chocolate Cake (can I have vanilla ice cream with that?

Making Light:

Lance Mannion:


2006-07-19 17:28:13
4.   Eric Enders
I've sworn off desserts, but...

Lime Sherbet
Athletics Nation
The Griddle
Almond Joy
Dodger Blues

2006-07-19 17:33:54
5.   Daniel Zappala
Blueberry Pie
Chocolate Chip Cookies (must be homemade)

I eat more dessert than I read blogs.

2006-07-19 17:35:42
6.   Bluebleeder87
haagen daz ice cream (Vanilla)
rite-aid (butter pecan)

Blogs:I only know three:DT
Kamemetzky brothers

2006-07-19 17:39:18
7.   regfairfield
Dodger Math fulfills both my dessert and blogging needs.

In all seriousness:

Those fruit tart things they sell at Bristol Farms
Black Forest Cherry Cake

The Griddle
Where Have You Gone Andy Van Slyke

2006-07-19 17:40:54
8.   Vishal
i'll limit myself to a hot pair in each category.

1. frozen cheesecake
2. hot brownies a la mode

1. slate? i think that counts. slate is awesome.
2. baseball analysts

i'm excluding 6-4-2 and catfish stew because they kind of go without saying. but there, i guess i'm saying it anyway :)

2006-07-19 17:45:39
9.   Eric Enders
Jon, what are your choices?
2006-07-19 17:49:00
10.   Claire Malone-Evans
chocolate milk
2006-07-19 17:52:22
11.   Penarol1916
Dulce de Leche
Apple Pie with Ice Cream
La Web Deportiva Uruguaya
The Has Been on Slate

2006-07-19 17:53:17
12.   ToyCannon
This is good, just what I need more blogs to check out.

1. Cool-a-Coo ice cream sandwich at a Dodger game.(please bring it back)
2. Druid Circle Trader Joe Cookies
3. My own VitaMix Ice Cream concoctions

1. DT
2. The Griddle
3. InsideTheDodgers
4. Aaron Gleeman for all the links

I'm just not very well rounded but I'm looking forward to checking out the other blogs that are being mentioned here.

2006-07-19 17:55:17
13.   Icaros

1) Neapolitan-flavored Breyers ice cream

2) tie between candy cigarettes and Smarties


1) The Griddle (only as a means of continuing to stalk Bob from a remote location)

2) Archives of Tom Meagher's original Fourth Outfielder (nice to see Tom commenting here recently--glad he isn't dead)

3) Fire Grady Little (not a ton going on there right now, but when another movement comes along [bowel or otherwise], it'll be the epicenter)

2006-07-19 17:58:31
14.   njr
Desert Island definitely qualifies the deserts:

Lemon Ice Box Pie (my grandmother's recipe)
Chocolate Chip Cookies from Meeting Street Cafe in Providence, RI (never hurt to be specific).

Chowhound (although this would be torture)
LA Observed (lots of content to fight the boredom and see what's going on back home)

As per above I'm only leaving off Catfish and Griddle and 6-4-2 because I would only pick one baseball blog and it would be DT.

2006-07-19 17:58:53
15.   Sam DC
CC Browns Hot Fudge Sundae
Warm Pecan Pie

Crooked Timber
LA Observed
Tie (so, I'm a cheater who stole one of Vishal's blogs): Capitol Punishment (to keep Nats current)/Catfish Stew (to keep sane and happy)

2006-07-19 17:59:33
16.   Marty
Wow, I forgot Chowhound. I may need to ask for a rules change.
2006-07-19 18:00:11
17.   Jon Weisman
Cold apple pie
Hot fudge sundae
L.A. Observed
6-4-2, especially because DT will be pretty barren with me stranded, and Bob doesn't want to work.
2006-07-19 18:00:50
18.   overkill94
Since I don't read many blogs, I'm gonna switch the number of each that I'm allowed

1. Strawberry cheescake
2. Peanut butter and chocolate ice cream
3. Creme brule (no clue how to spell that one)

4. John Sickels' site (
5. Buster Olney's ESPN blog

...just kidding, I'll go with FJM

2006-07-19 18:01:19
19.   Daniel Zappala
The only ice cream sandwich worth eating is Its It.
2006-07-19 18:05:17
20.   njr
Kudos Jon for a fun question.
2006-07-19 18:07:28
21.   Daniel B
Apple Crisp
Cherry Pie
The Griddle
Stewert Mandel's College Football blog.

Strandad on a remote island with a computer that only had access to blogs, how would one go about redeeming the dessert coupons?

2006-07-19 18:11:54
22.   Marty
The stranded island will have one hell of a wireless setup. Perhaps it's the island from LOST.


2006-07-19 18:12:22
23.   Jon Weisman
21 - The Dharma Initiative will handle it.
2006-07-19 18:15:11
24.   the OZ
White chocolate cheesecake
Gooey chocolate brownie and vanilla ice cream

FJM (before it's owner was tragically killed in a car accident)
FJT under its previous management

2006-07-19 18:16:04
25.   Uncle Miltie
I don't eat dessert.

A chocolate protein shake

Dodger Thoughts
The Griddle
Inside the Dodgers

2006-07-19 18:16:43
26.   Sam DC
No takers for "" or "" I see. "" also not popular?
2006-07-19 18:17:17
27.   the OZ
Also, since I figure we're all stranded on the same island I can substitute "actually hanging out with Bob" for "reading the Griddle".
2006-07-19 18:17:46
28.   Uncle Miltie
Minorleagueball too. Forgot about that one.
2006-07-19 18:18:39
29.   DXMachina
Hot fudge sundae
Dutch apple pie

The Griddle
Tenderblog (
Techdirt (

2006-07-19 18:18:49
30.   Vaudeville Villain


Furcal SS
KLofton CF
Garciaparra 1B
Drew RF
Ethier LF
Aybar 3B
Martinez 2B
Martin C
Lowe P


Brynes CF
Tracy 3B
Gonzalez LF
Jackson (!) 1B
Estrada C
Green RF
Hudson 2B
Drew SS
Batista P

Conor Jackson back from injury, Ramon Martinez hits ahead of Russel Martin, but aside from that, prett standard.


Apple Pie

Yard Work
Dodger Math

2006-07-19 18:21:07
31.   Suffering Bruin
I eat dessert. A lot.

1. Specialty of the day from Clementine's Bakery, delivered daily.

2. Mixed Berry Pie with whipped cream.

3. Griddle

4. Altercation

5. 6-4-2

Then, I'll bitch about how I can only get three blogs and two desserts. I'm afraid I wouldn't be very good company.


2006-07-19 18:21:12
32.   confucius
Hall is catching.
2006-07-19 18:22:08
33.   Suffering Bruin
The extra five in 31? That's because I didn't preview!

Let that be a lesson to you sloppy spellers and fact-checkers! Always preview.

2006-07-19 18:22:26
34.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers have to win tonight as I can sum up my week with two cryptic words:

thin envelope.

2006-07-19 18:23:56
35.   Icaros
Wait! I forgot Forum Blue and Gold.

As the site's first commenter ever, it's my duty to pay respect.

2006-07-19 18:24:36
36.   Sam DC
34 If that means what I think it does, those people are fools.
2006-07-19 18:26:24
37.   Bob Timmermann

Thanks Sam. I didn't think I would care much.

Surprisingly, I do. Well, it's not that bad.

2006-07-19 18:26:36
38.   confucius
Batista only has one strikeout in each of his last two starts. He pitched terrible in june with an ERA above seven, but it has been 3.60 in July.

That's my thorough scouting report for this game. That's all you need to know.

2006-07-19 18:28:59
39.   Jon Weisman
34 - That will send me on a profanity-laced tirade.
2006-07-19 18:29:44
40.   Suffering Bruin
34 36 37 Que?
2006-07-19 18:30:58
41.   bigcpa
I always thought "stranded on a desert island" was a misused expression with the correct term being "deserted island." Alas Wikipedia has the final word...

"A desert island is simply any uninhabited island: the word "desert" is a reference to the island's deserted status, and does not necessarily imply arid desert weather."

In any event I'll take Godiva Dark Chocolate Ice Cream, Ghiradelli brownies (Costco mix), Boston Dirt Dogs, Movie City News and Drudge Report none of which are blogs but hey.

2006-07-19 18:33:36
42.   Suffering Bruin
39 I can be dim but if I'm getting the gist of this, I'll join you.
2006-07-19 18:33:41
43.   Bluebleeder87
Lowe should pitch better today (he's been working on command of his sinker all week) I'm wondering if he'll use the "slerve" today.
2006-07-19 18:33:57
44.   Marty
Specialty of the day from Clementine's Bakery, delivered daily

You DO like your desserts. That's about as good a place to get them in L.A.

2006-07-19 18:34:35
45.   Bob Timmermann

On the other hand, my goofing off time will remain steady.

2006-07-19 18:35:07
46.   Uncle Miltie
Here's a question, what player in the majors are you most built like? I'm going to have to think a while to come up with that answer.

I'm hoping that someone says Sal Fasano. Bob is Brandon McCarthy right?

2006-07-19 18:35:20
47.   Marty
45 OK, I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
2006-07-19 18:35:36
48.   Mr Customer
41 - reading the Drudge Report makes me wish I were on a desert island, but hey, different strokes for different folks.

34 - You must've gotten Odalis' by mistake. That would return the universe to a state of balance.

2006-07-19 18:36:18
49.   Marty
46 That's a tough one for guys with middle-aged bodies. I'm probably closest to John Kruk.
2006-07-19 18:37:28
50.   Telemachos
mmmmm.... dessert.

At the moment, I'll say:
- pomegranate/dark chocolate chip ice cream
- carrot cake
for the blogs.... hmmmm
- The Hot Blog (David Poland's blog on MovieCityNews)
- Daily Dish (Andrew Sullivan)
#3 would be "I Find Your Lack of Faith Disturbing" except Josh Friedman hasn't updated in an age (to be fair, he is recovering from cancer)
so.... #3 - What Would Tyler Durden Do? (just to keep me laughing)

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2006-07-19 18:38:07
51.   Bob Timmermann
I'm not built like Brandon McCarthy. I think I'm built more like Derek Lowe except a little shorter.

And not as stupid.

2006-07-19 18:39:05
52.   Marty
Jebus, Toby Hall looks like he's drooling tobacco. What a horrible "beard"
2006-07-19 18:39:30
53.   Gen3Blue
As much as this is a bit unfair to Ramon, is an inning of Martinez,Hall, and Lowe a good way to keep shaking an awful streak?
2006-07-19 18:40:05
54.   DXMachina
49 - I'm thinking Bengie Molina.
2006-07-19 18:41:04
55.   Bluebleeder87

I wish I was built like Jose Conseco, But I'll settle with the build of Eric Davis.

2006-07-19 18:42:41
56.   Bob Timmermann
I used to be built like Kent Tekulve.
2006-07-19 18:43:57
57.   Gen3Blue
As Lowe gets tired in the second half, his sinker usually gets better.
2006-07-19 18:45:07
58.   Bluebleeder87

chuckles at the thought.

2006-07-19 18:45:47
59.   Suffering Bruin
46 What ballplayer can barely touch his toes, talks too much and wouldn't dive to avoid a runaway car?
2006-07-19 18:46:36
60.   Marty
In my prime, Ron Cey may have been the closest for me. Decent build, no speed or range.
2006-07-19 18:46:46
61.   Bluebleeder87
I think Jon is built like Orel Hershiser but that's just me.
2006-07-19 18:47:16
62.   Suffering Bruin
What Lofton just did is for me physically impossible. I think I would break in half.
2006-07-19 18:47:49
63.   Suffering Bruin
61 Not bad!
2006-07-19 18:50:21
64.   Bluebleeder87
Furcal's bad throw makes an apperance.
2006-07-19 18:50:36
65.   Suffering Bruin
A taller first baseman... no, I won't say it.
2006-07-19 18:52:07
66.   Bob Timmermann
Jon is built like Orel Hershiser if you can ignore the sizeable height disrepancy.
2006-07-19 18:53:56
67.   Bluebleeder87

how tall? (difference)

2006-07-19 18:54:10
68.   King of the Hobos
I'm built like...David Eckstein? Or maybe Adam Everett? Something like that, except I'm no where near as scrappy.
2006-07-19 18:54:34
69.   Bluebleeder87

true (Choi?) no I won't say that :o)

2006-07-19 18:54:50
70.   D4P
"Thin envelope" is too cryptic for me.
2006-07-19 18:56:39
71.   Gen3Blue
Wow I see we made Batista throw 7 pitches in the first.
2006-07-19 18:56:56
72.   Steve
Where I come from, thin envelopes are for people that did not get accepted to school. I don't know if that's it, but it would be something similar.
2006-07-19 18:57:19
73.   Bluebleeder87
I chose Eric Davis (frame wise) height I'd like to say I'm an Eckstain clone. althought as I get older my body is starting to look like Eckstains.
2006-07-19 18:57:27
74.   Steve
By the way OZ, thanks for the vote of confidence, though FJT is technically still under the same management.
2006-07-19 18:57:39
75.   Uncle Miltie
I think I'm built more like Derek Lowe except a little shorter.

And not as stupid.

I really can't think of anyone in the majors with a similar build. Maybe Ichiro when he came over from Japan (before he bulked up), but I'm taller than him. 5'10/11 150 pounds. I don't think any majors leaguers are built like that. I don't think I'd have much trouble beating up Juan Cruz though :)

2006-07-19 18:58:09
76.   Daniel Zappala
I am built like David Eckstein.
2006-07-19 18:59:03
77.   Daniel Zappala
OK, someone already took that. I'm built like Uncle Miltie.
2006-07-19 18:59:11
78.   D4P
5'10/11 150 pounds

Sounds like someone needs to start drinking more chocolate protein shakes...

2006-07-19 18:59:44
79.   Daniel Zappala
Bob, my condolences.
2006-07-19 19:00:42
80.   Bluebleeder87
did you guys here that?? Hoffman blew another save? wow, good for us.
2006-07-19 19:00:53
81.   Ken Arneson
I was just left an island which had been deserted for years until some dude named Arnarson moved in a little over 1,000 years ago. In a grocery store on this island (which the natives call Island), I happened to find my favorite dessert as a kid: the Marathon Bar. They stopped making it around 1980 in the US, but apparently its still made in the UK (and sold on Iceland), under the name "Curly Wurly".

I bought one, and I still liked it, but it wouldn't make my top two.

Anyhoo, back to the issue at hand:
1. My mom's cinnamon rolls
2. Ice cream

It's hard to leave off a genuine Swiss chocolate, but if it really is a desert, I'm gonna need ice cream. As for blogs, since I'd already have DT, I'd pick an AL blog to get the other league covered. Then I'd get me some variety to keep me abreast of the current culture. So:

1. Kottke
2. Two Blowhards
3. Bronx Banter

The other question:
I'm pretty much the same height and weight as Tim Hudson, so I guess he's my closest body-type comp.

2006-07-19 19:03:23
82.   Bob Timmermann
Thanks, but nobody died!

I did get my Team Croatia jersey in the mail today.

The checkerboard pattern is only on the front. the back is white. I'm going to see if my girlfriend will let me wear it to Dodger Stadium Friday night. If so, I should be able to be spotted on TV despite me having Uecker seats.

If you folks don't know what a Team Croatia jersey looks like well you don't know what you're missing.

2006-07-19 19:03:25
83.   Gen3Blue
Come on Ramon. Get a hit or at least take some pitches!
2006-07-19 19:04:01
84.   DaveP
81 - They stopped making it around 1980

I heard around the time they stopped making those that they would rewrap them as "Curly" something and ship them overseas to sell off the inventory.

2006-07-19 19:07:16
85.   King of the Hobos
82 These?
2006-07-19 19:07:55
86.   Underbruin
To the original question -
1) Apple pie from the Apple Pan.
2) A chocolate-chip cookie/mint-chip ice cream sandwhich from Diddy Riese.

1) Marginal Revolution, an excellent economics weblog (
2) The Superficial, "Because You're Ugly" (
3) 6-4-2, though the Griddle is a VERY tough omission (, as if you didn't know)

As to the question about major-league body types, I'm pretty close to Hee-Seop Choi without the whole Asian thing. About 5-10 pounds lighter, that's about it.

2006-07-19 19:08:13
87.   Bob Timmermann
Vin has a very liberal definition of what constitutes keeping the "Dodgers rolling."

Woo hoo, let's go for two!

2006-07-19 19:10:55
88.   Bluebleeder87
Looks like Lowe is on his game today, I don't think he's allowed a fly ball?
2006-07-19 19:11:22
89.   Bob Timmermann


Except mine doesn't have a number on it. And it's short sleeved.

2006-07-19 19:11:40
90.   Bluebleeder87

wana play tik tak toe?

2006-07-19 19:13:19
91.   Bob Timmermann

Actually, if I go to a picnic, people will put an ice chest on top of me and a bag of chips.

If I go to an Italian restaurant, someone will take an old Chianti bottle, stick a candle in it and then place it on top of me.

2006-07-19 19:14:15
92.   regfairfield
Let me just put it this way: Craig Counsell out weighs me by 40 pounds. I don't think I have a good major league equivalent.
2006-07-19 19:16:53
93.   Sam DC
Greetings Dr. Falken. Would you like to play a game?
2006-07-19 19:17:42
94.   scareduck
86 - I'll take that as high praise for the lowbrow job I do...

My list would be something like (assuming I get a bye as author of my own):

1) David Pinto, who pretty unerringly has his finger on the pulse of baseball.
2) Halo's Heaven, because otherwise I'd never know what goes on with that other LA team.
3) ... well, this is a toughie. I'm torn between Lookout Landing and Idiots Write About Sports, not necessarily because of the teams they cover but because they're so consistently well-written and funny.

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone by leaving their blog off the list.

2006-07-19 19:18:06
95.   SCRocks

Tea Cakes from Martino's
Pizzokie from BJ's



2006-07-19 19:19:28
96.   scareduck
81 - waitaminnit. Ken, you -- inherited an island? In the arctic north? Care to give us lat/lon coordinates or a name?
2006-07-19 19:19:48
97.   Bluebleeder87

you're shoulders look like that of a pitcher, did you ever pitch in college or something? I'm trying to think of a pitcher with your body type.

2006-07-19 19:20:56
98.   Sam DC
I'm sorry if I've offended anyone by leaving their blog off the list.

This was a given, right?

2006-07-19 19:21:04
99.   Bluebleeder87

I swear I LOL'ED good one Bob.

2006-07-19 19:21:35
100.   scareduck
Oh, and I guess I missed my desserts.

1) Raspberry cheesecake.
2) Pumpkin pie.

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2006-07-19 19:22:08
101.   alexx
My favorite desserts are cheesecake and my momma's brownies (i'm a simple guy). Blog-wise, I like Minorleagueball, Dodgerthoughts, Pitchfork, Juan cole, andrew sullivan, my ex girlfriend's livejournal (just kidding). My baseball equivalent is Edwin Jackson (aside from birthplace and skin color).

Anyway, I have a Gameday audio question. Does anyone know how to make it work with an Intel Mac? I used to have a trick that i don't feel like explaining that allowed it to work but my computer has since downloaded a security update and now it doesn't seem to work anymore. : (

2006-07-19 19:22:26
102.   Linkmeister
Considering I didn't list a single sports blog, I should apologize. I figured I could ask somebody on one of the ones I did mention to tell me how the Dodgers are doing every year.
2006-07-19 19:24:04
103.   scareduck
101 - as a matter of fact, yes. You need to get mplayer for the Intel Mac.
2006-07-19 19:24:47
104.   Bob Timmermann
If I were trapped with scareduck, I would change my blogs to:

Pol Pot's Ponderings
Marx's Meanderings
Fidel's Foibles

I feel that creating a sense of conflict would heighten the desert island experience.

2006-07-19 19:25:25
105.   alexx
103 And that works for you? I will try it immediately.
2006-07-19 19:26:42
106.   Bluebleeder87

you're the guy sitting next to Jon rith? on our DT get together.

2006-07-19 19:28:18
107.   Bluebleeder87
Drew has become a worning track power guy.
2006-07-19 19:29:12
108.   Linkmeister
Once again, Prime Ticket isn't carrying this game out here in the tropics.
2006-07-19 19:30:18
109.   Underbruin
106 - Unfortunately, no, I didn't make it to the DT meeting. I'm about 6'5", 230 lbs or so. Never played baseball beyond high school, though I did throw for Track & Field, so I'm fairly Choi-sized. =P
2006-07-19 19:30:41
110.   confucius
46 Ray King
2006-07-19 19:31:26
111.   Marty
108 But at least you are in the tropics :)
2006-07-19 19:31:39
112.   Gen3Blue
I hate to say it, but if your lineup can't touch guys like Batista, your pitchers are going to lose. But our current line-up at Vegas looks damn potent,at least in the middle, so don't trade prospects.
Only 12 days to go before we are safe from a stupid trade.
2006-07-19 19:31:40
113.   Bluebleeder87
it was probably suferingbruin? I'm comfused?
2006-07-19 19:32:07
114.   Underbruin
94 - Well, I've given your blog praise in the past in other forms - if you'll recall BlogDay?
2006-07-19 19:32:18
115.   scareduck
104 - it's a holiday in Cambodia!
2006-07-19 19:33:16
116.   scareduck
94 - is that like Bloomsday?

2006-07-19 19:33:30
117.   Marty
115 It's tough kid, but it's life!
2006-07-19 19:33:32
118.   unmoderated
gonzalez tied with williams in doubles?
2006-07-19 19:33:44
119.   confucius
Suprised Lofton couldn't bring that down.
2006-07-19 19:34:07
120.   Bluebleeder87
I hate that they scored, We are facing Batista for crying out loud! let's score a run come on blue crew!
2006-07-19 19:34:29
121.   Underbruin
113 - Not sure. Could have been?
2006-07-19 19:34:33
122.   Uncle Miltie
Great play by Wilber
2006-07-19 19:35:33
123.   scareduck
94 - as an example of what I'm talking about, consider this:

"According to folklore I just made up, the Angel of Death is accompanied by a smokin' hot bimbo whose sole purpose is to ease the pain that comes with the realization that you're dead and going to Hell. She appears rather suddenly just prior to quietus and sticks around until the deed is done and the soul is released from its body, at which point she returns to her otherworldly necromantic abode for cocktails and casual sex with men who are better looking than you. Sure enough, she was in attendance at the Rogers Centre today, showing up to stand behind home plate and bear witness to the bottom of the eleventh:

Mysterious accomplice to Death whose face is constantly hidden by the FSN header graphic, you can find my email address in the right-hand menu bar. I understand the necessary side-effect of making your acquaintance, but while it's not ideal, I'm not sure a life of watching Mike Hargrove manage your favorite baseball team is a life worth living anyway."

2006-07-19 19:35:44
124.   Gen3Blue
Everybodies given up or gone to sleep. If anyone was still watching or cared, do you know how much abuse Lofton would have got?
2006-07-19 19:35:51
125.   Sam DC
Anyone ever see the movie National Treasure. I didn't expect it to be good, but I'm just stunned that it is this stupidly bad.

It does have a stunning archivist heroine. Might cheer you up a bit Bob.

2006-07-19 19:36:29
126.   Gen3Blue
That is sad, only 125 posts at this point!
2006-07-19 19:37:12
127.   Suffering Bruin
113 121 Yeah, it was me.
2006-07-19 19:37:22
128.   Underbruin
116 - Hah, no (believe me, I'm not one to celebrate Bloomsday =P). No, BlogDay. Does ring a bell? (And it doesn't mean what you think it does, sickos...)

I don't write for it anymore, but I did before.

2006-07-19 19:39:04
129.   ToyCannon
If I was stuck with Scareduck it wouldn't be for long. Ever since I read Stranger in a Strange Land by Heinlein I've always felt cannibalism should be a part of our society. No need for anyone to starve when food is plentifull.
2006-07-19 19:39:11
130.   Suffering Bruin
123 That's good stuff.
2006-07-19 19:40:37
131.   Suffering Bruin
Did y'all catch the Yard Work post by Jim Leyland? That's one of the funniest things I've ever read.

It's hear for the curious:

Second one down.

2006-07-19 19:40:46
132.   Bluebleeder87
was that a "slerve" Lowe just threw to Green.
2006-07-19 19:41:29
133.   D4P
Pol Pot's Ponderings

For which I'm an occasional guest columnist.

2006-07-19 19:42:10
134.   Bob Timmermann

I've met archivists. They don't like that actress. If they look like me, they are doing well.

Time to drown my sorrows in a pizza. Tough to find things to drown your sorrows in if you can't go on a drinking binge.

2006-07-19 19:44:19
135.   scareduck
129 - wow, glad to know I inspire such strong feelings. On the other hand, homicidal rage wasn't what I was quite aiming for...
2006-07-19 19:44:29
136.   dzzrtRatt
125 I didnt see National Treasure, but the guy who came up with the idea for it and produced it was just named head of movie production for Disney. So there will be more where that came from.
2006-07-19 19:44:59
137.   Bluebleeder87
I still believe, come one blew crew.
2006-07-19 19:46:22
138.   Bluebleeder87
it's the top of the 5th, it's till early
2006-07-19 19:46:36
139.   SCRocks
136. National Treasure 2 is already in the works.....


2006-07-19 19:47:01
140.   ToyCannon
After two at bats I'm struck with amazement that JD Drew has gounded out to 1st and struck out. Next we should get the weak fly ball and a walk. I believe that JD and Shawn Green have now combined for over 200 at bats without a home run.

Since the end of the Len Gabrielson era does anyone know what the record is for the longest number of at bats between home runs for a Dodger right fielder?

2006-07-19 19:50:06
141.   Bluebleeder87
I guess Lucille II came back to earth.
2006-07-19 19:50:43
142.   Gen3Blue
When Ethier and Aybar look special, what does it say about the Major Leque players?
2006-07-19 19:51:13
143.   Bob Timmermann
That commercial explains it all! I need to get rid of the Prius and buy a Hummer! That will show 'em!

Or in the future, I may have to arrange the horse head in the bed.

2006-07-19 19:51:58
144.   LAT
Ahh. No wife. No kids. Just me, the TV and a chicken salad sandwich after a few very long workdays. (Thank goodness because daughter would be screaming right now).

This is easy for me:

This is the only blog I read.

Coldstone Bannana Ice Cream with Choclate Chips.

Apple Pan Bannana Cream Pie.

Jon, I too must have my apple pie cold. I hate when they warm it up. And what's up with the cheese? Pie and cheese don't belong together.

The woman in National Treasure was beautiful.

NJR, are you from Providence?

Bob, don't know what the thin envelope is but sorry whatever it is.

Marty, I'm sure you have posted an update but I have been off-line, how is the dog.

Chicken salad sndwich is gone.

2006-07-19 19:53:12
145.   StolenMonkey86
I'd have to go with Ben & Jerry's Chunky Monkey ice cream, and pound cake. If I get a drink as a freebie, then I'd go with IBC Cream Soda, packaging it with the pound cake.

My blogs (in addition to the given "Dodger Thoughts") would be

* Marginal Revolution
* Drudge Report (which isn't really a blog, just like Troy Glaus isn't really a shortstop. Yet he's played short enough that he's eligible there for my fantasy team)
* Jorge Cantu's blog. I can trade this to Ned Colletti for oven-fresh chocolate chip cookies and cold, fresh milk.

2006-07-19 19:56:33
146.   Bluebleeder87
get Lowe out of there
2006-07-19 19:57:14
147.   LAT
Those everyday bullpen sessions don't seem to have helped Lowe very much.
2006-07-19 19:58:04
148.   Bluebleeder87
he's still keeping his pitches up, I really hope Honeycutt didn't screw him up.
2006-07-19 19:59:09
149.   Daniel Zappala
condolence: sympathy with a person who has experienced pain, grief, or misfortune
2006-07-19 19:59:18
150.   LAT
Based loaded, Shawn Green coming up.

The situation screams out for Odalis.

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2006-07-19 20:00:13
151.   Bluebleeder87
I can't believe DT has "E-Online" LOL

Well atleast that maid my day. :o)

2006-07-19 20:01:32
152.   LAT
I think it is this situation which sent Odalis to the pen. He was never right after giving up the HR to Green. The only way to reverse the hex for OP to get Green out. Then all will be restored to normal.
2006-07-19 20:01:51
153.   D4P
Defensive substitution for AAAybar. Back to Vegas for Willy.
2006-07-19 20:02:07
154.   Bluebleeder87
I swear this team can break your heart.
2006-07-19 20:02:53
155.   Steve
Lowe must be feeling the pressure of committing adultery again.
2006-07-19 20:03:03
156.   StolenMonkey86
151 -
Well atleast that maid my day

I wouldn't mind something to maid my house.

2006-07-19 20:04:11
157.   StolenMonkey86
154 - Yep, resulting in blood loss. And the frustration forces all the oxygen to your head to compensate.

Thus, one "bleeds Dodger blue."

2006-07-19 20:05:21
158.   Gen3Blue
I know Jon has to be conservative with his comments, but I believe we are seeing something extraordinary in terms of performance for salary. It compares or tops the late 90's D's and Mets teams which must hold records due to salary inflation alone.
The best stategy would be to use the prospects and flush everyone else.In a few years the cost would be almost nothing. And we would be better! Could we be worse?
2006-07-19 20:05:56
159.   StolenMonkey86
153 - Aybar moved to 2nd. Martinez is out for grounding into a double play?
2006-07-19 20:06:17
160.   JoeyP
Aybar's play in the 4th made Web Gems. It was pretty sweet.
2006-07-19 20:07:17
161.   regfairfield
158 Since we have the 14th best record in baseball, I'll say yes.
2006-07-19 20:08:16
162.   JoeyP
It compares or tops the late 90's D's and Mets teams which must hold records due to salary inflation alone.

I think the worst performance vs salary team for the Dodgers was 2000.

2006-07-19 20:09:25
163.   Sam DC
159 Just a double switch with Beimel, I think, though I've mostly been watching swashbuckling historians and supermodel archivists while the game's been wandering on.
2006-07-19 20:14:42
164.   Uncle Miltie
Down 5 runs, Furcal steals 2nd (but fortunately makes it)
Then Nomar swings at the first pitch (which was a breaking ball out of the strike zone) after Lofton's great at bat
2006-07-19 20:15:12
165.   Gen3Blue
161 But it would take some work, which I don't think we are capable of.
2006-07-19 20:17:02
166.   Gen3Blue
162 I think that was it. I was close!
2006-07-19 20:18:18
167.   Steve
This is the kind of game made for the initial question Jon asked, and I vote for a second round:

Lemon Merengue Pie
Creme Brulee


Hardball Times might sneak in there if it is a blog, but it probably isn't

2006-07-19 20:18:59
168.   JoeyP
I stand corrected.
The 1999 Dodgers finished 77-85, and I'm pretty sure that might have been the worst team alot of money can buy. The highlights from that team were Kevin Brown's ERA+148, and suprisingly Eric Young's 63-26 BB/K ratio.
2006-07-19 20:19:27
169.   dzzrtRatt
If your three favorite blogs have hyperlinks, on the dessert island can you click on them?

As for dessert, there's a place in SF called Park Chow that serves apple pie with cinnamon ice cream and caramel sauce.

Also, Ben & Jerry's Caramel Heath Bar Crunch

And finally, pineapple upside down cake.
LA Observed

(I'm assuming present company excepted. I actually look at DT before any of these.)

2006-07-19 20:22:08
170.   StolenMonkey86
Derek Lowe has a 4.96 career ERA in July.
2006-07-19 20:22:34
171.   Gen3Blue
Our scouting and farm depts. give us reason for some hope and as a loyal D's fan I guess that is enough. The fact that when a mid-level prospect comes up, he almost always shines and causes a commotion says quite a bit though.
2006-07-19 20:22:55
172.   Bluebleeder87
Toby Hall rubs my the wrong way!
2006-07-19 20:23:13
173.   trainwreck
Key Lime Pie
"Special" Brownies or Cookies

Tucker Max

2006-07-19 20:24:27
174.   Bluebleeder87

that makes me feel a little better, Ride the wave lowe.

2006-07-19 20:25:04
175.   regfairfield
How about the 2002 Rangers?

72-92 for $105,726,122

2006-07-19 20:25:43
176.   LAT
Biemal about to come up gimpy (and stupid after the bawk)
2006-07-19 20:26:33
177.   JoeyP
Nomar's having his first slump of the year I think.
59Abs in July, BA-.254 and .794 OPS.
2006-07-19 20:27:02
178.   regfairfield
177 That's a slump?
2006-07-19 20:27:45
179.   D4P
That's the problem with "clutch" hitters: if there's no one on base ahead of them, they're just not the same hitter...
2006-07-19 20:28:47
180.   Bluebleeder87
Let's score some runs blew crew.
2006-07-19 20:29:33
181.   JoeyP
I think anything over 50abs, that significantly deviates from the player's seasonal averages before hand or career averags, is a slump.

So yes, Nomar is slumping. But he sets a high standard for himself.

2006-07-19 20:30:31
182.   JoeyP
175. The 2006 Cubs may come close to equaling similar futility.
2006-07-19 20:31:24
183.   Bob Timmermann
Nomar puede batear solamente con patos en la charca.
2006-07-19 20:31:25
184.   Daniel Zappala
I wonder if the Dodgers will trade for Shea Hillenbrand now that he is on his way out in Toronto.
2006-07-19 20:32:39
185.   Bluebleeder87
IF ANYTHING THE PADRES LOST TODAY I had to put that in bold to bring the happy in the mind.
2006-07-19 20:33:47
186.   StolenMonkey86
Derek Lowe - July, Aug, Sept career splits

ERA:4.96, RA:5.66 WHIP:1.43 HR/9: 1.18

ERA: 3.25 RA: 4.05 WHIP: 1.19 HR/9: 0.54

ERA: 3.16 RA: 3.62 WHIP: 1.23 HR/9: 0.55

2006-07-19 20:34:12
187.   Bob Timmermann

Shea never thanked me for the crib.

2006-07-19 20:34:25
188.   Icaros

According to the AZ announcers, Toronto just cut Hillenbrand tonight because he refused to sit with his team in the dugout.

2006-07-19 20:34:40
189.   Bluebleeder87

"en la charca?" that dosn't sound native to me pilgrime? :o)

2006-07-19 20:34:48
190.   Gen3Blue
Lord, I'm afraid I see those panic lines on Grady's face each time he comes out to pull a pitcher. But by the time he speaks after the game or the next day, he sounds calm and almost promises not to trade prospects.
I hope the second take is true!
I'm not positive yet, but I have felt before that old vets, or long guaranteed contracts are a bad bargain. This leaves home developed players as about the only option. But I bet another path to success is lucky trades for young players. And this may be all luck. As you can see by the Yanks, even limitless money has its limits.
2006-07-19 20:35:18
191.   JoeyP
LOl...thats some NBA type stuff there. Wouldnt they suspend a player for something like that instead of just cut him?
2006-07-19 20:35:39
192.   StolenMonkey86
186 - sorry, I forgot the rest of the commas so it's not as nice to read.
2006-07-19 20:35:46
193.   D4P
I'm assuming charca = pond, si?
2006-07-19 20:35:46
194.   Steve
Nevertheless, the happy tastes like sad.
2006-07-19 20:36:27
195.   Steve
Hillenbrand would have been DFAed and they'll have ten days to trade him.
2006-07-19 20:39:09
196.   StolenMonkey86
He's been DFA'd.

2006-07-19 20:39:31
197.   Bob Timmermann

What word would you use for "pond?" It's not a word I have to use very often in conversation.

2006-07-19 20:40:01
198.   Bluebleeder87

Pond is correct for the term (just not in my native "slang" Mexican tongue)

2006-07-19 20:40:09
199.   D4P

Frozen bananas
Ice cream bars


2006-07-19 20:41:16
200.   Gen3Blue
Lowe does get better towards the end of the season. He always sucks in July.
But I refuse to see anything but the D's starters know they will get no runs and have no hope. This kills starters. It has only been bad since just before the all-star break, so maybe it will improve. But it is a huge impediment.
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2006-07-19 20:41:51
201.   regfairfield
I never thought I'd say this, but let's get Shea Hillenbrand.
2006-07-19 20:42:49
202.   Bluebleeder87

"Nomar puede batear solamente con patos en la charca." you can use "en la agua"= "in the wather"

2006-07-19 20:43:15
203.   StolenMonkey86
You know who pitches really well with no run support?

Odalis Perez. His two best starts (he only had 3 good ones) were in games where the Dodgers scored 2 runs or less while he pitched.

2006-07-19 20:44:17
204.   StolenMonkey86
at least this year. Maybe he misses the anemic offense he loved to criticize?
2006-07-19 20:44:26
205.   Bluebleeder87
Orlando Hudson smoked it!
2006-07-19 20:44:47
206.   Bob Timmermann

But the joke wouldn't have been as funny if I used a Spanglish word.

Not that it was particularly funny to begin with.

But what the heck do I know? I'm an underachieving loser sitting around his one bedroom apartment wearing a shirt that make him look like a reject from Clowns Without Borders.

I'm going to go check on my oven ...

2006-07-19 20:45:53
207.   Bob Timmermann

That's not a cheap attempt to garner sympathy.

That's a blatant attempt to garner pity!

2006-07-19 20:46:13
208.   Steve
201 -- my thoughts exactly
2006-07-19 20:46:20
209.   LAT
203. Funny, Odalis said the same thing in 2003.
2006-07-19 20:47:25
210.   Bluebleeder87
My girlfriend just asked me, "is the game over" I told her, the game was over in the 4th inning sweet heart.
2006-07-19 20:47:36
211.   StolenMonkey86
206 - What's cookin, doc?
2006-07-19 20:47:47
212.   Nagman
Darn, we have yet another 'wrong brother'.
2006-07-19 20:48:17
213.   trainwreck
Sometimes you eat the bar and sometimes the bar eats you.
2006-07-19 20:48:30
214.   Gen3Blue
Man, another embarrassment. Please don't panic--Grits or GM.
All we have to do is take tomorrows game and its a split.
Please keep our prospects or you condemn us to this for years.
2006-07-19 20:49:06
215.   LAT
I bet every pitcher in baseball is licking his chops wishing they were playing the anemic Dodgers.

!!!Play the Dogers and be Roger Clemans for a night!!!

2006-07-19 20:49:43
216.   Steve
The Blue Jays could use some AL East tested middle relief!
2006-07-19 20:51:55
217.   StolenMonkey86
To be Roger Clemens, your team can't score any runs either.
2006-07-19 20:52:04
218.   LAT
I guess tonight is really

!!!Play the Dodgers and be Babe Ruth for a night!!!

2006-07-19 20:52:14
219.   Louis in SF
This is off topic, but hopefully somebody can help me. I live in SF and have Direct TV. I just ordered thier Sports Package, which includes all of the Foxes. I do not have the MLB package. It was my understanding that with this package I could watch most of the games on the other Fox channels subject to any special blackout rules. I watched the debacle on Monday and some of yesterday's game and was set to watch tonight-perhaps I am fortunate. But tonight can't get anything-the Direct TV customer service people don't seem to have a great answer. Any body have a similiar problem


2006-07-19 20:52:59
220.   Bluebleeder87

very very very very very very true!

2006-07-19 20:54:15
221.   Andrew Shimmin
211- Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

219- The game isn't on Fox, tonight. It's on L.A. local KCAL9.

2006-07-19 20:54:32
222.   Steve
219 -- ESPN may have a Wednesday night blackout window.
2006-07-19 20:54:37
223.   Blu2
There is no other way to say it: Drew stinks. I put him in the dumpster with Cruz and Ledee. If he didn't have that ridiculous reputation, he'd be considered a very average outfielder in danger of being traded. Potential doesn't mean anything, performance is what counts. Project Kemp's stat's to equal Drew's at bats and record. Who is better?
2006-07-19 20:54:39
224.   trainwreck
On KCAL 9.
2006-07-19 20:54:49
225.   Bluebleeder87
It looks like the Dodgers took a vacation during the all-star game & don't wanna come back!
2006-07-19 20:55:21
226.   Steve
Never mind, Andrew's answer is not only the right one, it's hip and edgy
2006-07-19 20:55:58
227.   Marty
What's cookin for me is I've got a bunch of heirloom tomatos ripening. Cherokee Purple, Mr. Stripey, Black Brandywine. Tonight I'm going to just make BLT's with them. This weekend will be Tomatos, mozzorella and fresh basil. Yum.
2006-07-19 20:56:50
228.   Nagman
219 - I believe you were misinformed if you were told that you could watch live MLB baseball with the DirecTV sports package without Extra Innings. You only get to watch The Best Damn Sports Show at just about any time of day.

Nor do you get to watch live college football. All that is blacked out. That's my understanding anyway.

You may have been watching the past couple nights because of the free preview of EI?

2006-07-19 20:57:55
229.   Nagman
219 - It is on Fox Arizona tonight, so you might want to check...
2006-07-19 20:58:05
230.   D4P
This weekend will be Tomatos, mozzorella and fresh basil

My wife makes that (i.e. "caprese") quite a bit. She adds olive oil and chopped garlic to the mix. Yum!

2006-07-19 20:59:14
231.   Marty
230 Yep, I add good olive oil and a balsamic vineger. It's great. There's nothing like home-grown tomatos.
2006-07-19 21:01:39
232.   Bluebleeder87
I'm broken between watching the movie Cocktail (one of my favorite movies) or the Dodgers losing another game? I swear it's a hard disicion (yes I love my dodgers that much)
2006-07-19 21:02:13
233.   Steve
Bob hasn't come back from his oven yet. Icaros, would you please pop your head out of the closet and tell Bob that everything's ok?
2006-07-19 21:02:18
234.   JoeyP
If you guys are serious about acquiring Shea Hillenbrand, what exactly would you give up? I dont think he's going to make a difference, other than simply another guy to play in front of Aybar.
2006-07-19 21:02:45
235.   Blu2
Yeah but I have Dish. Their Channel L:ine0up on the Internet says I get FSW and FSW2. FSW2 is the PrimeTime station that carries Dodger games. But they only give me FSW which has the Angel games. I don't watch them. They only say it was an atrbitrary decision that people in my zip code only get FSW; people in some other zip codes get FSW2. Telling them their advertising says otherwise and threatening to sue doesn't move them at all. If they're going to keep on losing it won't matter much anyway.
2006-07-19 21:04:42
236.   StolenMonkey86
223 - Ok

By OBP rank, not counting today's game:

1) Nomar - .414
2) Martinez - .396
3) Ethier - .392
4) Repko - .392
5) Drew - .379
20) Kemp - .316

By SLG rank
1) Olmedo - .579
2) Nomar - .571
3) Repko - .522
4) Ethier - .516
5) Kemp - .500
6) Aybar - .464
7) Drew - .461

Incidentally, Jeff Kent's .267/.369/.449 puts him at #7 and #9, respectively.

2006-07-19 21:04:48
237.   Gen3Blue
219 Louis- I can't give you clear info. because I haven't searched that far, but I have some insight. I have MLB Extra Innings package, or what ever they call it now. If there is not a Fox pay station carrying a game for one of the participants, I usually can't get it. One year(within the past 2 or 3), I had the sports package with all the Fox regional stations( as youseemed to have ordered). I could never figure out all the rules, and sometimes I got games I never expected; sometimes I got blacked out for noi reason I could figure. It didn't seem to cost 1/2 as much as Extra innings but it drove me crazy. I think that now you get the most possible from Extra Innings, but I miss every Sat. afternoon because Fox blacks that out for everyone. Wish I knew more. Good Luck.
2006-07-19 21:05:07
238.   Jon Weisman
Suffering Bruin, e-mail me - I still want to get you your replacement TBODT.
2006-07-19 21:05:47
239.   JoeyP
watching the movie Cocktail

Its so bad, its good.
My friend used to always joke that when's he upset, he just pops in the movie Cocktail and it makes him feel better. Apparently, when life gets you down, just board a plane to Jamaica, become a bartender, and have intimate relations with Elizabeth Shue. All your problems are then solved.

Tom Cruise makes many entertaining, yet unrealistic flicks. Top Gun is my favortie of this genre.

2006-07-19 21:06:01
240.   Jon Weisman
When's the last time the Dodgers got a good ol' fashioned nine in the ninth?
2006-07-19 21:06:26
241.   LAT
232. I would watch teh Dodgers. Cocktail is an awful movie. Any movie with TC is an awful movie.

The only good things that can be said for that movie are Elizabeth Shue and Brain Brown, and only becasue was married to Rachel Ward who most of us decided we really like.

2006-07-19 21:08:32
242.   Steve
Canada needs to have a Cuban Missile Crisis of its own.

The goal is to replace Izturis. That may not actually result from the acquisition, but one thing at a time.

2006-07-19 21:08:50
243.   confucius
I think just about everyone will be going after Hillenbrand now.
2006-07-19 21:09:02
244.   Jon Weisman
Top 5 Elisabeth Shue moments

5) Sweet girl in The Karate Kid
4) Suffering in Cocktail
3) Feisty ingenue in Soapdish
2) Nursing Nicolas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas
1) Tour de force in the opening credits of Adventures in Babysitting

2006-07-19 21:09:41
245.   StolenMonkey86
240 - the 51's got 8 in the 8th to get Gagne a save situation. Are the Dodgers that good?
2006-07-19 21:10:18
246.   LAT
Only two more games until we catch Col
2006-07-19 21:10:22
247.   confucius
A new Lowe, shoutout by Miguel Batista.
2006-07-19 21:10:42
248.   JoeyP
Batista with the rare CGSH.
2006-07-19 21:11:43
249.   confucius
247 I'm hoping that headline is printed somewhere.
2006-07-19 21:11:48
250.   Gen3Blue
Marty yeah I'm watching a few heritage tomatos too, but back east there way behind.
We got to stick to baseball, because this is not a normal phenomenom, and we need to try to understand it. This could kill a franchise.
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2006-07-19 21:12:13
251.   Steve
And they can have him, quite frankly.
2006-07-19 21:12:36
252.   Bluebleeder87
239 (I was a midget when the movie came out)

theres some little things that don't make sense in that movie, can you name some?

2006-07-19 21:12:52
253.   confucius
247 Of course had I written shutout it would have been much more likely. Apologies.
2006-07-19 21:13:04
254.   Bob Timmermann
I was doing the NYT Crossword puzzle. It took me a disappointing 15:34 to complete.
2006-07-19 21:13:47
255.   thinkingblue
What a pathetic offense, we make Bautista, whose periphials are awful, look like a cy young winner.

oh well, looking foward to the youngesters I guess.

And JD Drew, he'll bid his brother adu(spelled it wrong probably)

singing "one day I'll be as good as you".

2006-07-19 21:14:19
256.   JoeyP
Do any of you guys watch Rescue Me?
I think its a very good show, but its obvious that Denis Leary is writing it. I've never witnessed an actor/writer so vain, that he would write into an episode his own character getting drugged, and then raped by a woman? If you saw last nite's episode, Leary was raped by one woman, and got with a couple other women too. Watching an episode of Rescue Me, is like seeing Leary's own fantasies (a tough talking firefighter that scores with attractive chics constantly) come to life on the big screen.

Now I like Denis Leary as an actor, comedian, etc. I just think his ego is out of control when he writes himself into these situations.

2006-07-19 21:15:40
257.   Bluebleeder87

give me a break guys, I was a young impressionable sole back then.

2006-07-19 21:16:52
258.   Bluebleeder87

2) Nursing Nicolas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas

love it!

2006-07-19 21:20:38
259.   Bluebleeder87
wow our hitting needs to improve.
2006-07-19 21:24:19
260.   dzzrtRatt
someone's surely mentioned by now that Florida beat DC 1-0 on a home run by old friend Cody Ross.

On the Yahoo! game recap there's a photo of Cody, the offensive star of the day. He's wearing a Dodger cap.

2006-07-19 21:25:22
261.   Gen3Blue
We need to not panic. We got players coming.
We will get another good draft position this year, and we are presently good at that. Go with it. I know at some point we will have to convert, but not yet. I hope we get people who know how.
2006-07-19 21:25:49
262.   Mr Customer
257 - You were a fish, dude? That's awesome.
2006-07-19 21:28:17
263.   Bluebleeder87
what's a fish dude?
2006-07-19 21:30:27
264.   Bob Timmermann
A sole is a type of fish.

alma = soul

Stupid English homophones!

2006-07-19 21:32:17
265.   Bluebleeder87


2006-07-19 21:33:43
266.   Mr Customer
264 - It's truly an awful language. I apologize if that was a little snarky. Sadly, that's the most amusing thing that has happened today.
2006-07-19 21:36:00
267.   ToyCannon
Come on, it is obvious he is hurt. These are the same at bats we watched Shawn Green give us in 2003 when he wouldn't tell anyone he had destroyed his shoulder. They have evidently decided that rest won't cure whatever ails him and he has to play through it. And of course the Dodger medical will be wrong as usual and it won't be long before he's shut down for the season because they misdiagnosed the real problem. Anyone heard from Werth lately?
2006-07-19 21:42:27
268.   Steve
JD Drew playing hurt is a perverse sort of justice, but the lesson will have to get through somehow.
2006-07-19 21:44:31
269.   LAT
" The NL West is a combined 11-21 since the All-Star break."

Remember when the season started and the NL West was the toughest division in baseball. That time is awfully far back in the rear view mirror!

2006-07-19 21:49:28
270.   JoeyP
Drew's AB/HR this year is 32.8
In 2004/2005 it was 16.4

I think the power slump might also be caused by Drew's placement in the order. He doesnt have protection that he'd had in prior seasons. Therefore, he's not getting the same types of pitches. I think pitchers are pitching around him.

His poor performance vs LHP is my biggest concern. But I'm not sure if its bc he's hurt. He may simply be having a down season.

2006-07-19 21:51:41
271.   JoeyP
I'd flip flop Nomar/Drew in the batting order, to see if that has an effect. If it doesnt, then maybe Drew is hurt. But it seemed like he hit most of his HRs batting 3rd, and then he's hit cleanup and hasnt hit many. Kent's had the same issue. He's getting pitched around also I think.
2006-07-19 21:51:45
272.   Louis in SF
237, thanks that is probably the most accurate answer the only good thing about trying to watch the Dodger game tonight on Fox Arizona was I missed the game-looks like we really stunk it up...Here is a baseball thoguht regarding everyone's favorite JD Drew. Since Drew has an opt out at the end of this year, would it not make some sense to trade him with perhaps one prospect and try and get some power somewhere. He is then able after the season is over to be a free agent? I don't know if he has any veto rights. But if we have anything right now it is too many outfielders
2006-07-19 21:56:20
273.   Jon Weisman
NL West is still the best division in the league.
2006-07-19 22:01:06
274.   Andrew Shimmin
The Big Kahuna is starting on IFC, right now. If you've never seen it, it's great!
2006-07-19 22:01:44
275.   Bob Timmermann
The top four teams in the NL West are much better than the bottom of the NL Central.
2006-07-19 22:09:54
276.   thinkingblue
I'm going to see a quakes game tomorrow for no particular reason, Nate, are there any prospects I should watch for on that team?
2006-07-19 22:18:09
277.   Bluebleeder87

I still hate the NL WEST.

2006-07-19 22:29:15
278.   overkill94
256 Sounds like the Drew Carey syndrome
2006-07-19 22:29:39
279.   underdog
I'm glad I missed the game tonight, too, though it was painful enough just to see the results. Was Lowe that bad? Do you think Toby Hall calling the game instead of Martin had any affect? (Not that Lowe hasn't basically been struggling for a month anyway.)

Apparently the work he's done this past week in the bullpen didn't do much.

I don't know what to say about the offense over the past week, either, except there's nowhere to go but up! (Says Pollyanna.)

Don't see how the bats are going to suddenly wake up against Webb tomorrow, either, but you never know and here's to a better homestand.

I'm gonna curl up with a copy of Daniel Clowes' Ice Haven and forget the score tonight.

2006-07-19 22:30:24
280.   underdog
276 The Quakes? I thought that was a soccer team (once).
2006-07-19 22:31:38
281.   fanerman
Whatever happened to J.D. Drew scares me.
2006-07-19 22:38:02
282.   Jon Weisman
Will future generations understand the joke on Seinfeld about George not rewinding Rochelle, Rochelle?

"Rewind? What is this rewind you speak of?"

2006-07-19 22:38:28
283.   JoeyP
Funny line from the juicebox:

"These being the Cubs, Hendry was rewarded for assembling this juggernaut with a two year contract extension five days into the season. Because apparently the Cubs' goal for this year was to win three games."

2006-07-19 22:40:29
284.   mikethinksblue

His little brother showed up unexpectedly, scary indeed

2006-07-19 22:44:14
285.   regfairfield
Ruggiano has been sent to the Devil Rays as the player to be named later in the Hendrickson trade.
2006-07-19 22:44:46
286.   CanuckDodger
Put JoeyP on suicide watch: the PTBNL in the Hendrickson/Hall/Navarro/Seo trade has finally been named: Justin Ruggiano.
2006-07-19 22:48:10
287.   trainwreck
DRays need another outfielder in the system.
2006-07-19 22:55:51
288.   CanuckDodger
287 -- They really do. Delmon Young and Elijah Dukes could be in the penal system before long, the way they are going.
2006-07-19 22:57:42
289.   JoeyP
Good for Ruggiano.
I'm not upset, Logan White has shown he treats his college players as merely draft filler. Hopefully Ruggiano gets a legit change with the D-Rays.
2006-07-19 23:03:37
290.   Uncle Miltie
I always mix up Ruggiano and Raglani. I know Ruggiano is having a better year, but I think Raglani has more upside. Ruggiano looks like he could be a late bloomer though. It seems kind of pointless to throw him in what was already a pretty one sided trade.
2006-07-19 23:04:07
291.   underdog
Ruggiano could be another Victorino (and not just because of their Italian ancestry) - solid outfielders who could shine somewhere else. Still, i wasn't all that sold on him (from the little I saw) as a great ML prospect, but he could be solid. On the other hand, I still can't believe the Dodgers had to throw in another play for that trade.

I'm actually glad it's him over Delwyn Young, for what that's worth.

2006-07-19 23:06:08
292.   JoeyP
Was Ruggiano assigned to the D-Rays AAA team? I hope so. He was languishing in AA.
2006-07-19 23:06:17
293.   underdog
Btw, speaking of that "one sided trade" (I'm in the minority I suppose who thinks it was pretty even), Jae Seo tonight:
Gave up two homers to Minnesota's Rondell White and allowed seven earned runs in 5 2/3 innings.
2006-07-19 23:06:40
294.   CanuckDodger
289 -- Once the draftees are in the system, White doesn't have any role in what is done with them, unless his opinion is sought, and even then he has no final say in a decision about a player. That is Terry Collins' job, and of course where trades are concerned, Colletti has the final say.
2006-07-19 23:08:21
295.   JoeyP
Seo had pitched pretty well his previous two starts. I think the problem with the trade is that Seo and Hendrickson are interchangeable, but Navarro/Ruggiano are discarded for nothing.
2006-07-19 23:09:14
296.   StolenMonkey86
"I'm caught in the middle of when to throw what pitch," Lowe said. "The goal is to pitch deep into a game and I haven't done that in a month." - Thursday's LA Times
2006-07-19 23:09:51
297.   JoeyP
294. If thats the case, like I echo'ed before a couple nites ago: Terry Collins needs to be replaced. Maybe he'd make a better field manager, but the promotion/demotion and valuing of the prospects has been very very suspect IMO.
2006-07-19 23:12:00
298.   StolenMonkey86
295 - I think you could make a sample size argument with Hendrickson. It's hard to judge after 3 starts, especially after he took 4 unearned runs in one of them. I think he'll be a plus part in the end, but I don't think he'll quite make up for Navarro and Ruggiano for Hall.
2006-07-19 23:14:02
299.   StolenMonkey86
297 - Maybe he'd make a better field manager

Well, I guess we may never know.

2006-07-19 23:17:00
300.   trainwreck
Maybe Lowe should go back to just throwing sinkers and then just throw in a few cutters.
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2006-07-19 23:17:12
301.   natepurcell
He was languishing in AA.

Yea... explain how he is languising in AA again? I must have missed that.

2006-07-19 23:17:13
302.   JoeyP
If Terry Collins was the guy that told Blake Dewitt to hit the ball on the ground more, maybe that can get him fired.
2006-07-19 23:19:14
303.   JoeyP
303. BC he should have been in AAA. Did the Dbax not promote Stephen Drew last year? No, they kept promoting him.

Ruggiano should have been at Vegas. He wasnt.
This new D-Rays GM I like. He thinks exactly like I do. Of course, he's an ex Wall Street broker that understands value.

2006-07-19 23:19:20
304.   thinkingblue

Maybe he should focus on preventing runs first. Does he know what batters are hitting on the first pitch against him?

2006-07-19 23:22:03
305.   natepurcell
If Terry Collins was the guy that told Blake Dewitt to hit the ball on the ground more, maybe that can get him fired.

He was the one to tell him to change it back

BC he should have been in AAA. Did the Dbax not promote Stephen Drew last year? No, they kept promoting him.

His numbers don't warrant a AAA promotion. Last year, he only spent less then 150ABs in AA, with his high K rate, his average might have been a fluke. so far this year, his average is significantly down which shows his avg last year was flukey. And Stephen Drew is a totally different case. Drew was a totally different case.

You still havent given any reasonable evidence to show that he should be in Vegas. His numbers this year did not warrant any type of promotion.

2006-07-19 23:22:40
306.   natepurcell
This new D-Rays GM I like. He thinks exactly like I do. Of course, he's an ex Wall Street broker that understands value.

I'm sure there is plenty of room on the devil rays bandwagon.

2006-07-19 23:22:51
307.   CanuckDodger
I am pleased that the player sent away isn't somebody from the tentative Top 30 Dodgers Prospects list I wrote up a couple days ago. Batting .263/.368/.443 in Double A at age 24 wasn't going to put Ruggiano in the Dodgers' plans, and he would have been eligible for the Rule 5 draft after this season. I saw no chance that the Dodgers would protect him given the other players that will need to be protected on the 40 man roster. Somebody mentioned Shane Victorino's name above. Interesting, because like Ruggiano Victorino played at Jacksonville at age 24. Victorino's batting line was .328/.375/.584, and DePodesta didn't even bother to protect him from the Rule 5 draft, instead wasting a roster spot on 28-year-old AAAA player Brian Myrow. I was furious about that at the time.
2006-07-19 23:23:13
308.   natepurcell

There you go.

2006-07-19 23:24:36
309.   natepurcell
Also, JoeyP should know that Ruggiano was never a "moneyball" draftee that had great college stats. Actually quite the opposite. he was a scouting pick because one of White's scouts like Ruggiano. I think Canuck can elaborate more on that.
2006-07-19 23:25:03
310.   thinkingblue
What's so great about Ruggiano? He was batting .263/.368/.443, with 9 homers and 45 RBIs, that's worse than what Drew has put up so far.
2006-07-19 23:25:20
311.   regfairfield
Ruggiano has been assigned to AA Montgomery.
2006-07-19 23:25:51
312.   natepurcell

I would have put Ruggiano in my top 30. I think including him in that Dray deal was too much. But whatever, what done is done.

2006-07-19 23:26:07
313.   gibsonhobbs88
Is Arizona becoming our new Temple of Doom, we have won just one of our last 9 games there. What a disaster of a road trip. Talking about coming home with our tail between our legs. I don't know if we should give up the farm for a run this season. This year, even if we sneak into the playoffs, we will make just as quick an exit. I would maybe make a deal with the White Sox in the off season to try and get McCarthy, a young arm to pair with Billingsley and Penny. I wouldn't dispense with Nomar and hopefully he'll agree to try third next year. We just don't have the pitching to compete deep into the postseason this year.
2006-07-19 23:26:39
314.   JoeyP
I just enjoy seeing competance.
Baseball in general drives me crazy. So when a couple teams appear to have "gotten it", its interesting. I havent followed all of this new D-Rays GM's moves, but his drafting of Evan Longoria was sound. And his moves with the Dodgers have been good.

I enjoy sound logic.

2006-07-19 23:28:06
315.   natepurcell
What's so great about Ruggiano? He was batting .263/.368/.443, with 9 homers and 45 RBIs, that's worse than what Drew has put up so far.

He beat up on A+ pitching last year as a 23 yr old and had a flukey AA year. He has good patience though and has some sock in his bat. But the strikeouts might prohibit him from hitting for a decent average if he gets into the bigs. Ive seen projections of a 5th outfielder all the way to Jason Bay type sleeper. Although his numbers this year have tempered the Jason Bay type sleeper enthusiasm.

2006-07-19 23:28:50
316.   regfairfield
309 That's not entirely true, his Junior year he was fairly studly (.322/.403/.555) and he was hurt senior year.

Nevertheless, I really don't think the Dodgers are losing much. I liked having him around on the hopes that he might develop into a fifth outfielder in a system that didn't have much outfield depth, but Ethier made him obsolete.

2006-07-19 23:28:59
317.   StolenMonkey86
296 - That was the second game that Toby Hall has caught Derek Lowe. The quote makes it sound like Lowe didn't think he could trust Hall.
2006-07-19 23:31:54
318.   JoeyP
Hopefully Pedroza can move on soon so he can get his career untracked. Felt sorry for that kid.
2006-07-19 23:33:46
319.   natepurcell
Hopefully Pedroza can move on soon so he can get his career untracked. Felt sorry for that kid.

When he sucks for the rest of the year in Vero, can you stop with his perpetually college bias whining?

2006-07-19 23:34:54
320.   natepurcell
2006-07-19 23:35:42
321.   gibsonhobbs88
I know many names and possible trade rumors are just that so let us not jump the gun and pound Coletti into submission at a rumor of a deal, i.e. Boone, Soriano, ect...
The Blue needs pitching more right now, but the supply is scarce and demand is high and if the price is the "prize plums" of our bumper crop of youngsters, I'm not sure a 2 month rental is worth giving up a foundation for long term success in the future.
2006-07-19 23:35:49
322.   JoeyP
Its whining based on guys that produce, but get looked over.

When Anthony Reyes/Jason Windsor types are producing at the MLB level and Elbert/Johnson/Wall are bussing it in the minors, will you change your tune that perhaps Terry Collins isnt as smart as you think he is?

2006-07-19 23:38:04
323.   thinkingblue
Now you think Reyes is going to be better than Elbert? Are you ok?
2006-07-19 23:38:15
324.   Uncle Miltie
If thats the case, like I echo'ed before a couple nites ago: Terry Collins needs to be replaced. Maybe he'd make a better field manager, but the promotion/demotion and valuing of the prospects has been very very suspect IMO.
Terry Collins is doing an excellent job. Look at all of these prospects succeeding at the big league level. Without them, we'd be in last place. Demoting Aybar was questionable, but I'd rather see him starting in AAA, than coming off the bench in the majors. Young players need at bats to develop. That's why Kemp is down in the minors right now. He has some things to work on and it won't hurt him to spend a month in AAA (a level he had never played at until a few days ago).
2006-07-19 23:38:30
325.   trainwreck
Windsor has pitched one game. He was very hittable in the minors and I know you like to translate minor stats to the majors.
2006-07-19 23:40:40
326.   Eric L
316 Doesn't it seem like Ned is trimming the fat from the farm system? He may not be getting enough for these guys (in our eyes), but his philosophy may be that it's better to get something right now than nothing down the road.

I might not agree with that philosophy, but whatever.

2006-07-19 23:41:27
327.   JoeyP
Hittable? Not really.

Windsor doesnt give up HRs, k rate higher than 9, and a decent bb rate.

The fact he keeps the ball on the ground, has a pretty good K rate is definitely something to be excited about. I never look at hits allowed anyway.

Windsor reminds me of another guy that gets overlooked- Josh Johnson. Windsor is just older and has better control. Johnson will probably end up being better though.

2006-07-19 23:41:55
328.   natepurcell
will you change your tune that perhaps Terry Collins isnt as smart as you think he is?

I have never given my opinion on Terry Collins level of intelligence.

Its whining based on guys that produce, but get looked over.

No its not. Because he hasn't really produced. He was sent to Columbus because he stunk in Columbus last year after a quick promotion from Odgen. And he spent half the year in Columbus this year before a promotion to A+; where in all honesty, he will probably stink there as well. Your battle cry to save the college players in our system is all honestly, a pointless, and losing proposition. The players who play well in a large enough number of at bats, with good compenent ratios to show that it was not a fluke, will get promoted. Skipping entire levels just does not work, and hinders a players development.

When Anthony Reyes/Jason Windsor types are producing at the MLB level and Elbert/Johnson/Wall are bussing it in the minors

Reyes and Windsow are what? 23-25 years old? Elbert is 20, Johnson is 21, and Wall is 19. Seriously, your lack of patience breeds ignorance. really it has.

2006-07-19 23:43:10
329.   Eric L
328 Nate, I've never seen you this angry here.. even after Ned traded Edwin!
2006-07-19 23:43:42
330.   underdog
I think Pedroza will get promoted soon, actually, and the Ruggiano trade being another impetus for that.

I seem to recall that Ruggiano was a below average fielder, too, for what that's worth.

Elbert - the top lefthanded pitching prospect in the majors? That Elbert? He'll be in the majors next year, I'm betting.

2006-07-19 23:44:48
331.   JoeyP
I enjoy ruffling Nate's feathers.
I get bored when I cant argue something. And this Dodger season has sapped alot of excitement and interest away.

If arguing minor leaguers is all we have to talk about, then I guess thats just what we are left with.

2006-07-19 23:45:06
332.   CanuckDodger
322 -- Are you saying you want to see Elbert, Wall, and one of the Johnsons (Blake? Steve?) in the majors now? Reyes and Windsor are 23. Blake Johnson is 21, Elbert is 20, Wall is 19, and Steve Johnson is 18. Are you going to say age doesn't matter again?
2006-07-19 23:45:12
333.   thinkingblue
Nate, is there any prospect that I should keep an eye on in Rancho Cogomunga (spelling)? Only asking because I'm supposed to go to one of their games tomorrow.
2006-07-19 23:45:22
334.   natepurcell
Nate, I've never seen you this angry here.. even after Ned traded Edwin!

I just got home from crappy day at work, bare with me.

2006-07-19 23:46:51
335.   bhsportsguy
One thing you have to consider is the 40 man roster, Ruggiano was someone that was probably on the bubble, now it is certainly possible that no one would want to do a major league draft on him but he could have gone in the minor league draft. Now, to me this does seem to be a bit much but since he would have to be added to the D-Rays 40 man roster too, maybe they will take him back.
2006-07-19 23:47:51
336.   trainwreck
Windsor gave up 75 hits in 66.1 innings and that is with a good Sacramento defense behind him.
2006-07-19 23:49:10
337.   natepurcell

is that the Angels Affiliate? If so then yes, if Nick Adenhart is pitching, then he is the one you should watch. He is a big time stud.

Stephen Marek RHP- top draft and follow from 2004 draft.

sean rodriguez-21 yr old SS that hits for average and power

eh, thats about it.

2006-07-19 23:49:27
338.   trainwreck
Whip of 1.42.

Far too early to call Windsor a success.

2006-07-19 23:50:21
339.   natepurcell

So you are only acting like this to get under my skin? If Jon didn't have a no cussing policy, you would probably be drowning in language right now.

2006-07-19 23:50:59
340.   Eric L
333 Enjoy the cheap beer and hot dogs night and let the rest follow.
2006-07-19 23:51:13
341.   thinkingblue
By the way, will Clayton Kershaw be promoted to Odgen this season?
2006-07-19 23:51:44
342.   trainwreck
Yesss, drown me in the sweet waters of your envy.

God, I love that line.

2006-07-19 23:52:31
343.   natepurcell
I think Pedroza will get promoted soon, actually, and the Ruggiano trade being another impetus for that.

Pedroza just got promoted to A+. He needs to show he can hit there before they promote him to AA.

2006-07-19 23:54:30
344.   JoeyP
There's alot to like about Windsor's AAA PCL performance:

66 IP
3 HR's allowed
75 K's.
20 BB's.

Everything is good except for the BB's.

In his debut he had a 10-2 GB/FB ratio IIRC.
There's plenty to be excited about concerning Jason Windsor. Even more satisfying to me, is that Windsor wasnt even on the A's BA top 10.

2006-07-19 23:54:53
345.   Uncle Miltie
332- Joey believes that all prospects should make it to the majors in 2 years or less. Otherwise, he considers them busts. I guess Edwin Jackson set the bar high for Joey.
2006-07-19 23:54:57
346.   natepurcell

Most likely yes. Maybe by the end of this month. His fastball command has been a lot better then I expected.

2006-07-19 23:55:44
347.   JoeyP
339. No Nate. I just respect someone that is so energetic about defending their position.
2006-07-19 23:57:15
348.   trainwreck
Foxsports is reporting the Mets are now more willing to deal Milledge and Heilman for Zito. DO IT BILLY!!!!! DO IT!!

2006-07-19 23:58:27
349.   natepurcell

Since you rely heavily on statistics to form your opinion, Windsor's numbers last year were not very good. They were really average actually when he faced the AA test for soft tossing college righties. He didn't fail, but he didn't pass with flying colors. So it seems that his statistics last year didn't really warrant any type of really high placing on any list. He did well repeating AA this year though and pitched pretty decently in the PCL.

2006-07-19 23:58:50
350.   bhsportsguy
343 Although I don't think they will do this because he has not conquered A+, Xavier Paul is also due for his 40 man roster check and some non-pressure (Suns clinched playoff spot) might be something they might want to consider.
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2006-07-19 23:59:47
351.   natepurcell

You are hear the heartbeat of the entire Mets Nation. I can sense there will be a lot of angry Mets fans on Primer if this is done.

2006-07-20 00:01:23
352.   natepurcell

I'm not a big Xavier Paul fan. He is stuck to a corner OF position and I don't think he will hit for enough power to be a starting caliber player. He could make a nice throw in for some trade though.

2006-07-20 00:04:05
353.   bhsportsguy

I saw this in an earlier thread, don't know if you saw it, just some information on Alex White.

The visiting Post 39 had well-rested ace Alex White ready to roll, and he was all business as White and his team struck early and steadfastly held on for a 9-4 win, eliminating neighboring Post 160 to advance in the playoffs.

White almost perfectly hit his target number of 110 pitches, and most of those pitches were hitting their targets as well. White dealt out 12 strikeouts and threw almost exclusively fastballs in the latter stages of his seven-inning outing, in which he issued just one walk.

"Alex was Alex," said Post 39 assistant coach Rodney Harris, who has filled in for coach Mike Mullis this week after Mullis left to be with his ailing mother in Atlanta. "He went out and did his thing, threw the ball hard and stayed around the strike zone all night. That's doing the job."

2006-07-20 00:07:15
354.   natepurcell

Yea I saw it. I don't knwo how much is in Logan White's budget, but I have heard something like 800k to 1 million to sign Alex White. I personally, since I don't really care about McCourts money and want the best possible players in our system, would do that in a heartbeat.

2006-07-20 00:09:55
355.   underdog
343 I'm sure you knew this, but that's all I meant was that Pedroza would get bumped up a level, not to AAA or the majors or something. (Though I thought outside possibility he may get a bump to AA before the season started but now it seems only A+, like you said, is more likely.)

348 That'd be okay by me if we could sign Zito in the offseason, assuming the Mets can't resign him, because then they'd lose their top two prospects and we'd get Zito. (in my fantasy world.)

Okay, I'm really going to bed y'all. Here's to a better day tomorrow.

2006-07-20 00:09:59
356.   Eric L
I can sense there will be a lot of angry Mets fans on Primer if this is done.

The Mets are in 1st place and haven't made any "bad" trades yet and there are already alot of angry Mets fans on Primer. They are an interesting lot.

I think Bob really enjoys the attitude that most of the Mets fans have at Primer (which has been down all day it seems).

2006-07-20 00:12:25
357.   bhsportsguy
354 I think that it will be more of a question of does he want to go follow Miller and Bard at NC or go pro. Since he pitched a full high school season and American Legion for another week or so, I don't see him pitching this year except maybe in the Instructional League.

Nate, do you think he would go to extended spring training like Josh Wall or would he go to Columbus as his first stop.

2006-07-20 00:12:53
358.   natepurcell

I dont post much on Primer, but I do read it alot. Mets fans are a funny bunch on there. Every thread turns into Mets related some how. And then Leveski makes some sort of Omar/Hispanic joke and Mets fans call him out on being a racist.

rinse and repeat every thread.

2006-07-20 00:13:57
359.   bhsportsguy
357 I don't think you draft a White in that round if you don't plan to spend out of slot money, just keep repeating Andy LaRoche, Andy LaRoche.
2006-07-20 00:15:34
360.   bhsportsguy
356 C'mon the Mets are the classic win now ballclub, they may need a Zito to get out of the NL but they will need something like that, I suspect the Tommy Glavine fountain of youth well to dry up before then.
2006-07-20 00:16:05
361.   natepurcell

Really depends on how sharp he looks in instructionals in September and how much he developed over winter. I think what the Dodgers want with their prep pitchers before they get into Aball is definately fastball command and at least an average form of any secondary pitch. The old regime with Bavasi and Evans, they were really aggressive with prospect promotion. It seems now since depo that we have been alot less aggressive.

For example, Wall and Steven Johnson were held out of Long season ball this year. If this was 3-5 years ago, I think they would have started the year in Columbus.

2006-07-20 00:17:59
362.   bhsportsguy
Nate, my guess on that list of other choices for that players to be named later list:

Xavier Paul, Cory Dunlap

2006-07-20 00:18:49
363.   natepurcell

Well in the 13th and 14th last year, we plucked Steven Johnson and Andy Van Slyke and we paid above slot to sign them. But I think Akins and White this year will want significantly more above slot then Johnson and Van Slyke.

2004, we drafed David Price AND Joey Savery in the 19th and 15 :(

Next year, both are probably going top 15.

2006-07-20 00:19:26
364.   bhsportsguy
361 Couldn't this all be a reaction to Edwin Jackson and Greg Miller, though I am never too sure how you can plan against arm injuries.
2006-07-20 00:20:49
365.   CanuckDodger
Jason Windsor was still on the board when we took Cory Dunlap with our 3rd Round pick in 2004 (Windsor was Oakland's 3rd Round pick). I would rather have Windsor than Dunlap, but Dunlap was very much a Moneyball/Depodesta pick (bad body but walked a lot as a junior college player). Has anybody else heard what Dontrelle Willis said about the portly Dunlap after the Dodgers drafted him (they had been in high school together)? "He used to hang out at my house and eat my scraps!" God, I love that. LOL
2006-07-20 00:21:59
366.   Vaudeville Villain
That trade proposal is awful for the Mets, but Omar Minaya seems intent on winning this year. I can see him pulling a trade like this.

Although it's arguable whether Milledge and Heilman together don't help you more right than Zito.

2006-07-20 00:22:56
367.   King of the Hobos
Just read about Ruggiano. I agree that he's no big loss, but I really liked him, and he just makes an already lopsided trade a lot more lopsided. Our PTBNL was a true roster filler, as there's no real hope for Ryder Mathias, other than Eric Langill's successor as organizational back up catcher. However, the DRays get a guy with an actual shot at the majors. I realize he wouldn't have been added to the roster, but I'm bummed.

And I'd have to agree with Nate about Xavier Paul, I'm not really impressed by him at all. I'd be more than willing to leave him unprotected this winter.

2006-07-20 00:23:29
368.   JoeyP
Well, the Dodgers already took a Windsor type of player in Justin Orenduff early that day. But yeah, I'd rather have two of those guys than just one.
2006-07-20 00:25:06
369.   natepurcell

I think Orenduff has a higher ceiling then Windsor. Well had, who knows now after the surgery.

2006-07-20 00:25:17
370.   StolenMonkey86
I would trade for Soriano only if I could trade Drew for Yankee prospects. Then it would cost them and maybe a Dodger prospect for Soriano. Without Drew, Soriano could be re-signed for a few years. Ethier moves to right (I think he said he played more right and center in AAA), and Repko takes over at center, with Lofton as pinch runner and leadoff pinch hitter, and Kemp coming up as soon as he can hit a breaking ball, immediately replacing Repko if he hits it 400 ft. If you're not gonna trade Drew, I'd swap Repko and Lofton, use a 5 man infield rotation, and see what happens.

Repko is the X factor.

2006-07-20 00:25:58
371.   King of the Hobos
363 Didn't we draft Scott Van Slyke? Andy Jr plays for the Cardinal organization.
2006-07-20 00:26:06
372.   bhsportsguy
366 I understand that may not want to get nothing but draft picks if they keep Zito but the team has started off their 10 game trip 5-2, if they can keep this up for another 10 days or so, they will have gone through one of their tough stretches while the Angels after their trip to Tampa, start a really tough stretch.

What I am saying is that I think Billy will play for this season and keep Zito.

2006-07-20 00:26:26
373.   natepurcell
And I'd have to agree with Nate about Xavier Paul, I'm not really impressed by him at all. I'd be more than willing to leave him unprotected this winter.

Leaving him unprotected is a no brainer. No team is going to stash im on their 25 man roster. He isnt that strong defensively except for a plus arm, and no way he can hit major league pitching next year.

2006-07-20 00:27:08
374.   natepurcell

To many Van Slykes. :)

2006-07-20 00:28:04
375.   trainwreck
Before the season I thought the A's were going to be the best team in baseball...
I was wrong. They aren't going to win the title, so they should get something for Zito, while they can if it is as good a deal as that.
2006-07-20 00:29:47
376.   King of the Hobos
Who would need to be protected this year? Hu? Abreu? Orenduff? I'm not really good with the specifics of who needs to be protected.
2006-07-20 00:29:51
377.   natepurcell

I don't think Billy will trade Zito either. Hes in first place right now and if Harden comes back, they can make some noise in the playoffs.

2006-07-20 00:30:30
378.   JoeyP
Yep, they should deal Zito if they know Harden isnt coming back this year. Now if Harden would be coming back, then they should be trying to upgrade their team with a bat. Nate already accepted my Street, Duch, Buck for JD Drew trade.
2006-07-20 00:30:53
379.   natepurcell

Eh I don't remember either.

2006-07-20 00:31:08
380.   trainwreck
I highly recommend Man Bites Dog tonight, which is on comedy central right now. Great episode!
2006-07-20 00:31:24
381.   JoeyP
Actually I added Mark Alexander to that propsed deal. Is it still a go?
2006-07-20 00:32:16
382.   natepurcell
Nate already accepted my Street, Duch, Buck for JD Drew trade.

Bucks going to be an Ethier clone and now we dont have to waste money for bullpen pitchers.

Sorry JoeyP, I forgot to tell you, Drew's shoulder is shot. No refunds!

2006-07-20 00:34:04
383.   natepurcell

Only if you add Herrera and Mark Sulentic as PTBNL.

2006-07-20 00:34:28
384.   JoeyP
380. I saw one episode and thought the entire show was saved by Zach Galifinakis. He's hilarious in it.
2006-07-20 00:34:43
385.   natepurcell
Mark, Matt, Patty, Irene. Same difference.
2006-07-20 00:35:34
386.   trainwreck
He has a great segment in tonight's episode.
2006-07-20 00:43:07
387.   Vaudeville Villain

The A's have been very disappointing. Some of the players I thought were going to be good, (Dan Johnson, Milton Bradley, Antonio Perez) this year have been ineffective for a variety of reasons. (Injury, underperforming, whatever.) Marco Scutaro has received a rediculous amount of playing time for a team that needs offense. I can't stand the Angels, but unless the A's get healthy, the guys who add -y to the end of everyone's name will go to the postseason. (Hudler called Bob Wickman "Wicky" today.)

As for us, I fear this season has placed us in a terrifying abyss between good and bad, and a decent stretch when the rookies were up fooled everyone into thinking this team was a contending team in the National League. This team is not significantly upgraded on paper from last year's team, and look how that ended up. It is time to stop emulating the Pittsburgh Pirates and doing the block prospects thing and sell whatever we can that isn't a part of the future in this organization.

I'm very happy to see Aybar back up by the way, even if he went 0 for whatever today.

On a random note, Marcus Thames is having a Paul LoDuca-esque breakout in Detroit. Guy's been a AAAA player for years, and suddenly he's one of Detroit's only worthwhile offensive players. Which, if he follows LoDuca's career arc will be the only great year of his career, followed by slightly above average ones punctuated by frustratingly awful second halves.

2006-07-20 01:25:31
388.   overkill94
387 I wouldn't call Detroit's offense weak, he's one of 6 starters with an OPS over .800. I agree though, he pretty much came out of nowhere this year, especially with how poorly he played last year.
2006-07-20 06:37:12
389.   Claire Malone-Evans
Hey everybody.. old friend, Milton Bradley, had a home run yesterday and it is now less than 200 hours away from Steve Garvey BobbleHair night.
2006-07-20 06:58:19
390.   Jon Weisman
331 - Arguing for the sake of arguing. The enjoyment of ruffling someone's feathers. Both of these are violations of the rules of this site, and it won't be allowed to continue.
2006-07-20 07:15:52
391.   Terry A
Further, open solicitation is also forbidden. So, Nate, we will NOT bare with you as you asked in 334. :)

But seriously... does anyone know how to undo just one remembered password in Firefox? I don't want to reset all my remembered passwords, just a password for one particular site. (Actually, it's this one.)

Nate, if you can help me, I'll reconsider baring with you...

2006-07-20 07:30:21
392.   Bob Timmermann
Click on "Preferences" in Firefox. Then the "Privacy" tab. Highlight the one you want and click "Remove".
2006-07-20 07:35:56
393.   Sam DC
With 28 career leadoff homeruns, Alfonso Soriano is now tied for 10th All-Time with Dodger-related greats. Any early morning (for you lot) guesses?

It's not hard, really.

2006-07-20 07:41:16
394.   Eric Enders
Am I to interpret that as saying he's tied with TWO Dodger-related greats?

I guess it's not as obvious to me as it should be. I'll guess Lopes and... um...

Jackie wasn't a leadoff man...

I'll guess Lofton for the other one.

2006-07-20 07:44:38
395.   Sam DC
394 right, sorry -- two players.

In fact, the two players you name, one of whom is his first base coach.

2006-07-20 07:47:02
396.   Terry A
392 - Bob, what can I say? You have solved a nagging problem for me. You have healed my self-inflicted wound.

You... complete me.

(Seriously: Problem solved. Your help was on-the-nose and greatly appreciated.)

2006-07-20 07:47:23
397.   Eric Enders
[blows the smoke from his gun barrel]
2006-07-20 07:52:26
398.   Sam DC
So tomorrow night I'm going to the big "RFK Grand Reopening" v. the Cubs. Apparently, they've painted the place, added some concessions, retrained the staff, and put in a funzone or somesuch. We'll see. tells me it's Livan v. Prior. Fun! The Post tells me it's Astacio v. Hill. Who? Any guesses who it'll be.

For my part, I trust the Post more than The web site is (i) probably understaffed, and (ii) might be perfectly happy to leave Livan/Prior up there even when that news is a little stale for ticket sales purposes.

And with those two, missing a start just seems more likely than making it anyhow.

2006-07-20 07:52:27
399.   Bob Timmermann

You're welcome.

2006-07-20 07:54:22
400.   Eric Enders
398 The most durable SP in baseball vs. the least durable. Interesting.
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2006-07-20 08:04:34
401.   Terry A
How does Livan warrant first-name treatment? I thought that was reserved for special players like Ichiro! and Neifi!

If this is going to stick, shouldn't Livan get his own exclamation point as well? It seems like something he deserves, based on girth alone.

2006-07-20 08:06:25
402.   regfairfield
The Indy Star had a stunningly familar line in a column about the Kearns trade:

Reds general manager Wayne "Midas'' Krivsky saw need and opportunity and didn't stammer.

2006-07-20 08:08:30
403.   Andrew Shimmin
I installed Firefox 2 Beta last night. It has a spell-check-as-you-go feature in text boxes, underlining misspellings, just like a word processor. So, now if I misspell something, it can only be taken as an intentional display of disrespect. Most of the extensions aren't yet compatible, and I don't think any of the themes are, so it's not a great idea to upgrade yet. But fun.

2006-07-20 08:09:56
404.   Sam DC
Hey Andrew. I don't know if you've started up with the not-smoking thing, but I hope you have, and I hope it goes well and you stick with it.

It's very important.

2006-07-20 08:16:39
405.   Andrew Shimmin
404- This is Day 4 and while I'm still not super happy about it, I'm no longer monomaniacal about it, either. I've kept myself occupied. With beta web browsers, mostly.
2006-07-20 08:17:03
406.   Sam DC
So apparently after giving up 8 minutes yesterday, Floyd Landis had an Armstrongian run up the mountains today and has claimed almost all of it back.
2006-07-20 08:19:05
407.   Sam DC
405 Wow, that's really great.

You think Bob has something against Cycling. How come no Tour on The Griddle?

I was trying the think of the word that would mean "prejudiced against cycling" but I kept getting stuck at "cyclist" and that doesn't quite work.

2006-07-20 08:20:58
408.   Marty
405 Keep up the good work. Another thing to focus on is how much money you are going to save. Smoking is very expensive. When I quit, a pack was 55 cents and I thought that was really expensive. What are they now, 2.50 a pack?
2006-07-20 08:21:09
409.   Terry A
"So, now if I misspell something, it can only be taken as an intentional display of disrespect."

You're just edgy enough to do that.

2006-07-20 08:22:17
410.   Marty
It looks like they are playing the British Open in the Sahara desert. I've never seen a browner course. Apparently England is going through a heat wave just like we are.
2006-07-20 08:25:21
411.   Penarol1916
407. What's the matter with not liking cycling?
2006-07-20 08:27:58
412.   Sam DC
411 Well, nothing, and to each his own, etc. But Bob's our resident internationalist.
2006-07-20 08:31:01
413.   Penarol1916
412. Cycling is kind of the hockey of international sports. A decent sized cult following, but it requires too much specialized knowledge to be accepted by most people in the world.
2006-07-20 08:34:29
414.   Andrew Shimmin
408- I was paying $3.50 a pack for a not particularly popular brand, and I'm pretty sure that was a bargain. When I'd have to go hit a gas station for an off-peak hours pack (my dealer closed shop at seven), it was more like $4+. I tried buying them over the internet, once, but ended up having to cancel the card I used, because it was being fraudulently used in Moldova. Which is pretty exciting. I wouldn't be surprised if Interpol is monitoring this site, right now. So, there you go.
2006-07-20 08:36:14
415.   D4P
Does it "hurt the economy" when people quit purchasing cigarettes?
2006-07-20 08:43:11
416.   Andrew Shimmin
415- It changes the direction of a very, very tiny part of the economy. It doesn't hurt it or help it, necessarily. Until you start thinking about how much of the price of a pack is tax, and then think about how much of that money gets wasted or stolen versus how much of it would if it weren't going to politicians. So, it's possible it helps the economy, assuming the quitter ends up spending his money in less taxable ways. Like on hookers and blow, for example. Hypothetically.
2006-07-20 08:43:51
417.   Andrew Shimmin
Speaking of taxes, if Barry Bonds doesn't get indicted pretty soon, I'm going to delete my Drudge Report bookmark.
2006-07-20 08:46:52
418.   Bob Timmermann
There's no Tour de France chat on The Griddle because my family has a long standing feud against Phil Liggett.
2006-07-20 08:46:53
419.   Sam DC
Hey LAT -- here's a good article with the current flavor of the relations between the Lerners and DC.

Money quote: "There has been a certain level of frustration," incoming Nationals President Stan Kasten said this morning. "We're doing all we can to build this team and to excite the fans again about life at RFK. And we're having trouble getting the simplest things done. We keep getting foot-dragging. . . . It does weight us down as we try to move forward. And we keep getting silly roadblocks that stop us."

2006-07-20 08:47:14
420.   Marty
it was more like $4+

If I still smoked, that would be costing me over $12 per day. Around $336 per month. That's more than my last car payment.

2006-07-20 08:49:11
421.   Bob Timmermann
My brother thinks that the teams leading each division in baseball should have to wear yellow jerseys.
2006-07-20 08:51:26
422.   Sam DC
"And so, the first pedal has been turned in ANGER!"

2006-07-20 08:52:49
423.   Sam DC
419 I should say, the article is good on flavor but not too good at actually identifying the legal problems that mlb/lerner/kasten are complaining about.
2006-07-20 08:53:43
424.   D4P
Should the defending World Champions wear green jackets...?
2006-07-20 08:55:39
425.   underdog
The Minneapolis paper says that the Dodgers are one of the teams scouting the Twins, and assume it's for reliever Kyle Lohse. His ERA's bad this year but I've seen him pitch, he has good stuff and a lot of potential. Thoughts?
2006-07-20 08:56:59
426.   underdog
Also, who do we think is gone when Repko returns - Cruz or Alomar?
2006-07-20 08:57:10
427.   Bob Timmermann
Keith Law lists the Giants, Dodgers, Angels, Brewers, and Padres as entrants in the Shea Hillenbrand Derby.
2006-07-20 08:57:34
428.   Bob Timmermann

But of course!

2006-07-20 08:58:51
429.   Sam DC
423 Just to close the loop, sorry for the littering up the thread with this, but here's the key issue re the DC stadium article I linked, I think: "In more than one letter to the city, MLB's lawyers have charged that the city has been delinquent in turning over documents, including the lease of the grounds on which the stadium will be built, proof that the city has title of the land, soil boring reports, fund balance reports for the project and monthly project schedules."
2006-07-20 08:58:53
430.   Terry A
426 - Possibly Steve.
2006-07-20 09:10:10
431.   Jacob L
410 That's the way golf is supposed to look. So much more fun than the lush, green dart boards they play on the regular tour.
2006-07-20 09:10:22
432.   Daniel Zappala
Good job Andrew! I think you've hit on a new geek-style stop smoking program. Play around with new browsers, install Linux, try getting mplayer to work on Gameday, etc. Anything geek to keep you preoccupied.
2006-07-20 09:14:23
433.   underdog
427 Hillenbrand would be interesting and presumably wouldn't require the Dodgers giving up much to get him since he was just DFA'd by Toronto. He was having a decent year when he played, but was disguntled with the Toronto coaching. Maybe he'd be more gruntled with LA.
2006-07-20 09:15:44
434.   D4P
Not only geek, but edgy and fresh as well.
2006-07-20 09:17:00
435.   Terry A
So Toby Hall for Shea Hillenbrand, then.
2006-07-20 09:19:42
436.   Bob Timmermann
I'm sure Toby Hall will enjoy playing on a team that already has two front-line catchers in Bengie Molina and Gregg Zaun.

Or maybe they aren't first string, but 1.5 string.

2006-07-20 09:23:45
437.   Bob Timmermann
How does the headline to this story show up in people's browsers?

2006-07-20 09:23:46
438.   Terry A
When I awake each morning, my first thought is always, What would make Toby Hall happy today?

Speaking of perpetually disgruntled Dodger backstops, is Jason Phillips still in the Toronto organization?

2006-07-20 09:24:37
439.   regfairfield
Bertman named to Baseball America's 󈬉 for 25
2006-07-20 09:26:14
440.   Bob Timmermann

That's what I saw, too.

I've always wanted to be ? in a group.

Maybe Bertman is like me and has poor posture.

2006-07-20 09:27:26
441.   D4P
Someone who is as bad at what he does as Toby Hall has no right to be disgruntled when someone is paying him $2.25 million a year to do it.
2006-07-20 09:30:22
442.   Sam DC
On the headline, I get two sides of a right angle, not a box, and after the 25 is "
2006-07-20 09:30:31
443.   Blu2
407 How about 'cyclophobe'?
2006-07-20 09:31:35
444.   regfairfield
Another player that the Dodgers could acquire because their team hates them: Edwin Encarnacion. He's been benched so that the Reds can have Aurilla and Clayton in the lineup
2006-07-20 09:31:47
445.   Bob Timmermann
On Google News, that article shows up with a Japanese kanji character in the headline.
2006-07-20 09:46:09
446.   FirstMohican
444 - Vin couldn't get "Encarnacion" quite right in '04, don't think it'll sound much better in '06.
2006-07-20 09:46:56
447.   Jon Weisman
New post up top, you busy beavers.
2006-07-20 09:49:50
448.   Blu2
You know if Babe Ruth hadn't retired, and died, some big league club would still have him in the line up because he was a proven veteran. Some GMs and Managers would insist he still had something left...
2006-07-20 09:51:01
449.   Bluebleeder87

last I heard he was, somebody gave me a link to a HRun he hit, the thing that came to mind is that he still looks like he has weights on his legs when he's running.

2006-07-20 14:35:52
450.   Vaudeville Villain

Really? The Reds are going insane before our very eyes. Edwin Encarnacion has been a really nice player this year.

Encarnacion: .284/ .380/ .482 OPS- .862

Aurilia: .283/ .335/ .506 OPS- .841

Clayton (Was Numbers): .269/ .315/ .348/ OPS- .663 (!)

I guess that's one less team we have to worry about.

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