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Lunch Was Short, The Workday Long, The Night Perhaps Longer
2006-07-25 17:40
by Jon Weisman

Nomar Garciaparra was covering second base when Ramon Martinez went out in his ill-fated attempt to catch the 11th-inning bloop double by Josh Barfield of the Padres. Barfield slid into Garciaparra, and the result is that Garciaparra is not in tonight's starting lineup. Neither is J.D. Drew. Neither, for that matter, is Russell Martin, who caught all 11 innings.

Now, you might be discouraged, disheartened, disenchanted or disgusted. But my recommendation is to release the yoke of expectations and just enjoy the game with a good ol' fashioned eleemosynary attitude.

* * *

Kudos to the math whizzes trying to sort out the cash exchange in the Odalis Perez deal - Danica McKellar would be proud. Wish I could have been more help. For the final details to be clarified, I suggest being patient.

Today was so busy that I never got around to mentioning a new column I have up on on the Angels, who in two months have gone from worst to first while the Dodgers have gone from first to worst.

Two months to go ...

* * *

Tonight's Game

Comments (371)
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2006-07-25 17:57:42
1.   confucius
This Harold Reynolds thing is driving me crazy. I just want to know!!!
2006-07-25 17:59:20
2.   Jon Weisman
1 - I don't want to bogart the Griddle audience. I think that's Reynolds Central.
2006-07-25 17:59:56
3.   Bob Timmermann
There are many unanswerable or unanswered questions in the universe that bother me.

Why Harold Reynolds got fired is not one of them.

I wonder who drives better: Danica Patrick or Danica McKellar?

2006-07-25 18:00:30
4.   Linkmeister
Sneaking in your new word, huh?

"And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity."

1 Corinthians 13

It always surprises me when I find a phrase I've heard a lot and it turns out to be from a verse in the Bible. This one's a case in point.

Maybe if I'd ever read the thing thoroughly...nah.

2006-07-25 18:04:40
5.   Linkmeister
Actually it's the "I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal" part of that verse I meant as surprising.
2006-07-25 18:05:14
6.   D4P
Can someone explain the genesis of the phrase "bogart" as a synonym for "hog, steal, etc."? The first time I heard it was when Butthead said to Beavis, "Don't bogart my log." I've heard it many times since, but have never known where it came from and why it means what it means.
2006-07-25 18:08:10
7.   Jon Weisman
6 - I've never known, either.
2006-07-25 18:08:56
8.   jasbo
Now that Coneddi has gone 95% of the way to blowing up the team, let's finish it off. Make every player over 25 (except a couple mentor types) available at the deadline and stockpile youngsters to fill in around our farm system.

In answer to Jon's earlier question, I see a whale of a difference between deadline buyers and sellers. The Dodgers should be sellers, with no illusions. That means we will give up nothing but the present and we will accept in trade nothing but the future.

2006-07-25 18:10:27
9.   D4P

2006-07-25 18:10:46
10.   be2ween
6 The great rock and roll band, Little Feat, fronted by a genius named Lowell George, had a tune called "Don't Bogart That Joint". I remember hearing 'bogart' in the stoner Iowa days of youth and attribute it to Mr. George.
2006-07-25 18:12:17
11.   be2ween
9 Oh no. The tinyurl thing again. Uh, how does that work?
2006-07-25 18:12:24
12.   Andrew Shimmin

No idea if this is right or made up. Sounds plausible, though.

2006-07-25 18:13:30
13.   Bob Timmermann
I want to know why I've been writing "wild card" as one word for months here and only today, on my own, did I find out that the proper form is to use two words.

Like this:

wil dcard

2006-07-25 18:15:25
14.   D4P
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean ? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.

- Jack Handy

2006-07-25 18:19:11
15.   trainwreck
Yeah, my dad used to play me that record all the time. That explains everything...
2006-07-25 18:19:56
16.   be2ween
Let's pick up Reynolds for the rest of the season and let go of Lyons and/ or Monday.
2006-07-25 18:21:32
17.   Steve
I just realized that the answer to the trivia question "What pitcher started for the Dodgers on October 2, 2004?" is Elmer Dessens.
2006-07-25 18:24:34
18.   Bob Timmermann
I always react to that in the same way as I did the first time I figured out that my parents had to have sex with each other to conceive me.
2006-07-25 18:24:43
19.   overkill94
10 Ah yes, a great stoner anthem, both used in the movie Easy Rider and as the outro for Kevin and Bean's morning show on Fridays.
2006-07-25 18:25:11
20.   thinkingblue
ToyCannon, why do down on LaRoche?

Is it because Wright is younger, and is already in the majors? That's about the only thing I can think of, because LaRoche in 4 minor league seasons has a higher OPS, and it's not like Wright has a better K/BB ratio. LaRoche also hit 30 homers in 1 season in the minors, Wright's high was 15.

In any case however, I don't see LaRoche being Joe Crede, who spent 6 years in the minors, with a .742 OPS in those 6 years.

2006-07-25 18:25:37
21.   thinkingblue

are you

2006-07-25 18:25:52
22.   Andrew Shimmin
So, if Flanders dumps Izzy, does that mean Dessens is the longest-time Dodger, or was the Penny trade come earlier?
2006-07-25 18:29:58
23.   Bob Timmermann
Dessens is more of a sentimental reacquisition. Sort of like getting Brett Butler back from the Mets.
2006-07-25 18:30:56
24.   Andrew Shimmin
The Penny trade was earlier, and I ignored Werth, Yhency and Gagne. So, that's a little embarrassing.
2006-07-25 18:31:56
25.   Steve
The player with the longest stay with the Dodgers on the current roster is Danys Baez at approximately 383 years.
2006-07-25 18:33:01
26.   JoeyP
I really miss Jason Werth.
The 2004 Werth.
Not the other version.
2006-07-25 18:33:31
27.   JoeyP
ooops...No really, i know I did not spell his name correctly, but I do miss him.

Jayson Werth

2006-07-25 18:34:42
28.   thinkingblue

If Ned dumps Izturis and gets a decent prospect, maybe some will forgive him a little for the Navarro trade? just asking

2006-07-25 18:35:37
29.   thinkingblue

Or getting Gio back from the wherever he was.

2006-07-25 18:39:09
30.   confucius

"Consider the daffodil. Meanwhile, I'll be going through your stuff."

-Jack Handy

2006-07-25 18:41:09
31.   ToyCannon
I knew a roadie for Little Feat called JD, and he was the most eccentric man I've ever met. I'm sure he's now either dead or living on the streets in Santa Monica.

Couldn't wipe the smile off my face when someone asked about the genesis of the phrase "bogart". Having 4 older brothers that word was used quite a bit while growing up in the 70's.

I'm not down on LaRoche but putting him in the same conversation with Wright either means you don't understand how good Wright is or your delusional about LaRoche's abilities. I didn't say he was going to have Crede's career, I said he has a better chance of having Crede's career then David Wright.

2006-07-25 18:44:35
32.   GoBears
I just figured it out! Colletti is a genius! He KNEW the team couldn't contend this year without blowing up the farm, so rather than go at 2006 in a half-cocked way, he started collecting old has-beens (Lofton, Mueller, Martinez, Tomko, Sele, Baez, Alomar Jr., then Hendrickson, Hall, Dessens) and finding space for them by dumping players who were younger, with more upside, but who were not ultimately the team of the future (Navarro, Choi, Perez).


To turn around and sell those bums to his old boss, Sabean, and the Cashmans (Cashmen?), KWilliamses, and Towerseseseses of the world at inflated prices come deadline time. He knew the stiffs wouldn't push the Dodgers into the playoffs, and might even stink enough to make selling the obvious choice, even to Bill Plaschke.

Oh sure, it was risky. Mueller fell apart before he could be traded, and Repko almost didn't come back in time to drive Lofton to the airport, but it's worked out pretty well, all things considered. Lowe and Gagne and Kent pitched in by not performing. Drew has suddenly "lost" his power, and Nomar has cleverly positioned his season-opening and mis-season injuries as the bread in a deceptive 2-month All-Star sandwich. Ethier, Martin, and Saito have played the misdirection game (i.e., by being good)

And today is open-house day. All the veteran crapsavvy you can stomach is out on the field for display. DePo contributions Saenz and Cruz are there too, feelin' sexy. Come one come all - give us your young, frisky, hungry kids for our poor, tired and well-fed ones. You think we're going after Soriano? HA! We'd rather talk to you about a slightly used Ramon.

It's not a garage sale - it's an antiques road show!

2006-07-25 18:44:57
33.   ToyCannon
Yeah the 2004 version of Werth was Ethierish. The 2005 version was Izziush. The 2006 version is Driefortish.
2006-07-25 18:46:23
34.   ToyCannon
It was a 3-month sandwich:)
2006-07-25 18:47:46
35.   jet
#10 is correct, sir. I first heard the expression "Don't bogart that joint," in 1967. At least I think I did... It's all so hazy now...
2006-07-25 18:49:05
36.   skybluestoday
Re: 10

Lowell George was indeed a genius -- he could write completely wild lyrics, had an incredible ear for funky rhythms, played a mean slide guitar in a completely fresh style, and was a tremendous honey-in-the-sludge vocalist who could worry a one-syllable word to death (i.e. "moon" in "Spanish Moon"), stretching it across a whole bar of music. One of my heroes!

2006-07-25 18:51:13
37.   Bob Timmermann
Heart & Soul batting with the bases loaded, 2 outs in the 9th at Shea. Mets trail the Cubs 8-6.
2006-07-25 18:52:10
38.   Bob Timmermann
Baker is afraid of Heart & Soul and pulls Dempster and puts in Howry!
2006-07-25 18:55:23
39.   be2ween
32 "...and Repko almost didn't come back in time to drive Lofton to the airport..."
GENIUS! I'll have what the gentleman's having, please, and make mine a double.
2006-07-25 18:57:04
40.   StolenMonkey86
If we could only get a 1-day rental on this guy, who's currently an Oriole, for today.

2006-07-25 18:57:39
41.   Bob Timmermann
Heart & Soul pops up to the end the game.
2006-07-25 19:03:48
42.   CanuckDodger
This properly belongs in the previous thread, but with this thread open, people probably aren't reading the old thread anymore. I approve of the trade today. As for the two prospects lost, I wrote off Pimentel a while ago, and Johnson, well, Johnson was starting to make me pretty damned concerned. These are the numbers from Johnson's last two starts:

11.0 IP, 21 H's, 11 ER's, 0 BB's, 1 K

He has too much talent for that to happen. A couple of bad starts can happen to anybody, but 21 hits to 1 K? In Single A ball? I think there is a good chance the Dodgers know that Johnson is damaged goods, and the Dodgers' tip top medical staff has once again been letting a player go out and perform while hurting. Was it just a coincidence that the Dodgers traded Chuck Tiffany and his shoulder promptly fell apart on the Devil Rays? Could be, but maybe not.

2006-07-25 19:04:22
43.   skybluestoday
Turns out old friend Cody Ross provided all the pop the Marlins needed to defeat the Braves 2-1 with two solo home runs. I am definitely rooting for this kid!
2006-07-25 19:06:17
44.   StolenMonkey86
Cody Ross now has 8 HR this season.
2006-07-25 19:06:21
45.   Uncle Miltie
40- how about a 1 inning rental against Chan Ho Park?
2006-07-25 19:07:28
46.   StolenMonkey86
45 - either way.
2006-07-25 19:09:19
47.   Linkmeister
How come the GameDay link goes to last night's game? Are there different links for each game, or is the same one used each day? Have the GameDay folks not gotten their act together yet today?
2006-07-25 19:11:22
48.   dzzrtRatt
12 is how I remember it.

The song, "Don't Bogart That Joint" was actually by a group called something like The Fraternity of Man, but Little Feat liked to play it in concert during the Lowell George years. It appeared on their "Waiting for Columbus" double-live LP, which is, by the way, one of the best live rock albums ever issued. Lots of people who spent the 70s ignoring Little Feat caught up quickly when that album came out. Just in time for Lowell George to check out.

2006-07-25 19:11:24
49.   StolenMonkey86
Hendrickson is a left-hander, so instead Eric Young and his .579 OPS bats leadoff.

There is hope.

2006-07-25 19:11:55
50.   Bob Timmermann
There's a typo in it.

Try this:

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2006-07-25 19:12:55
51.   adraymond
For everyone upset about Harold Reynolds' departure, a reason not to be:

2006-07-25 19:14:35
52.   adraymond
Seems that Griddle had that covered. Ooops.
2006-07-25 19:15:12
53.   Bob Timmermann
No, we just alluded to sexual harassment.
2006-07-25 19:15:15
54.   Bluebleeder87
thank god Hendrickson is tall.
2006-07-25 19:15:16
55.   trainwreck
According to the Sun (British tabloid), Dodger Thoughts favorite name, Ronaldinho, underperformed at the world cup because he spent all his time having sex and playing ps2.
2006-07-25 19:16:34
56.   Bob Timmermann

This makes him different than other men his age how?

2006-07-25 19:19:10
57.   StolenMonkey86
Hey, Furcal can catch a popup.
2006-07-25 19:20:33
58.   dzzrtRatt
51 Sounds like Reynolds needs to pursue the apology route. Mistakes have been made. I have caused pain in my marriage. I have acknowledged having a problem and am getting counseling. At no time did my personal problems interfere with my abilities to provide you, the ESPN viewer, with the very best baseball analysis of which I am capable. This is a private matter, and I hope the media will be sensitive to my family during this difficult time.
2006-07-25 19:20:34
59.   Andrew Shimmin
55- I know some of you soccer people like Ronaldinho, but Alberto Bastardo is the best name in the world. Bar none.
2006-07-25 19:22:22
60.   Bob Timmermann
After the DBacks took a 5-4 lead in the 9th in Philly, Utley tied it up with a home run.

The Giants have already lost to the Nats.

2006-07-25 19:23:50
61.   Bob Timmermann
And now Abreu is on second with one out.
2006-07-25 19:24:56
62.   skybluestoday
Re: 48

Lowell George was actually in The Fraternity of Man, and it was his song. So it's no mere coincidence that they used it on "Waiting for Columbus" (a record which deserves all the accolades it gets from you -- absolutely killer stuff).

2006-07-25 19:25:04
63.   StolenMonkey86
60 - And the last out in SF was Hillenbrand flying out to CF with runners on 1st & 3rd, down by 2.
2006-07-25 19:26:00
64.   StolenMonkey86
put Ethier in the 3 hole and he thinks he's Nomar
2006-07-25 19:26:46
65.   StolenMonkey86
come on, fastball down the middle
2006-07-25 19:28:31
66.   Gen3Blue
Our nucleus of Garc, Kent and Drew seems too decrepit to play--please keep the prospects. 7 days to go.
Frankly, this lineup, on paper, looks no more able to win right now, than an all rookie one we could put up. But that rookie one could perhaps play .500 ball next year for next to no money.
2006-07-25 19:30:08
67.   DaveP
It looks like the 51s will bat around in the 1st inning.
2006-07-25 19:30:40
68.   Bluebleeder87
thanks for the updates Bob
2006-07-25 19:31:10
69.   Bob Timmermann
Free baseball in Philadelphia!
2006-07-25 19:31:37
70.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Old Maid got jobbed on that strike call.
Know how I spent my afternoon? Reading a stack of sexual assault police reports. "Ugh" doesn't begin to describe things. I really need the Dodgers to win tonight.
Oh, and I approve of the OP trade.
2006-07-25 19:32:39
71.   DaveP
Canuck - why is Loney playing so much LF? Is it to get Guzman some time at 1B or do the Dodgers want flexibility in getting Loney's bat in the lineup when he gets called up?
2006-07-25 19:33:22
72.   thinkingblue
I'm not down on LaRoche but putting him in the same conversation with Wright either means you don't understand how good Wright is or your delusional about LaRoche's abilities. I didn't say he was going to have Crede's career, I said he has a better chance of having Crede's career then David Wright.

No, I just want to know why you think that saying he can have as good a career as Wright makes me delusional? LaRoche has a better minor league career, and it's not like he has struck out too much. So why is Wright far superior, and why am I delusional?

2006-07-25 19:34:55
73.   DaveP
Jeff Duncan went 0-2 in the 1st inning. Vegas scored 5 times.
2006-07-25 19:35:06
74.   trainwreck
After researching Harold Reynold's story, I have come to find out that ESPN hires a lot of people with problems.
2006-07-25 19:37:25
75.   Bluebleeder87
72 So why is Wright far superior, and why am I delusional?

it's called being optomistic (welcome to the club)

2006-07-25 19:37:58
76.   thinkingblue

That may be too smart for Colleti, but I hope you're right ;)
2006-07-25 19:39:37
77.   Bob Timmermann
Old Friend Sandy Alomar up with the game on the line in Chicago.
2006-07-25 19:40:06
78.   Bob Timmermann
Old Friend Sandy was pinch hit for by Alex Cintron.
2006-07-25 19:40:24
79.   Uncle Miltie
Izturis is below average. Hall is terrible. Why is he batting ahead of Izturis?
2006-07-25 19:40:41
80.   thinkingblue
and around the horn they go, Hall, you're not a starter on this team.
2006-07-25 19:41:09
81.   StolenMonkey86
because Hall has as many homers as Cody Ross this season
2006-07-25 19:42:08
82.   CanuckDodger
71 -- Loney has played a few games in the outfield every season. The Dodgers do care about positional versatility. But I also think the Dodgers want to make a trade involving Guzman, so putting Guzman at 1B is more about Guzman right now, showcasing Guzman's versatility.
2006-07-25 19:44:33
83.   Bluebleeder87
how dare you do that to my boy Izzy, EY.
2006-07-25 19:44:39
84.   Linkmeister
74 The tone of that Newsday article Bob linked to was a little heavy on the "why do they hire 20-year-old Production Assistants." Or maybe I'm reading too much between lines.
2006-07-25 19:46:28
85.   Marty
If Harold Reynolds goes the apology route, he has a good chance to wind up on Fox Sports Iowa or some such.
2006-07-25 19:46:30
86.   Gen3Blue
32 As long as he sticks to dealing the old 'vaudville stars" fine. It hasn't hurt the team of the future yet.
This midseason revelation at least shows that there isn't a vet sturdy enough to block a prospect, except possibly Furcal. As depressing as that is, we may be stuck with him, which isn't really that bad.
2006-07-25 19:46:59
87.   Bob Timmermann
I didn't link to the Newsday article, for the record.
2006-07-25 19:47:10
88.   StolenMonkey86
83 - what'd he do?
2006-07-25 19:47:58
89.   King of the Hobos
LaMura just made his Jacksonville debut. Struck out all three batters he faced.
2006-07-25 19:48:13
90.   thinkingblue
Hendrickson strikes again!

By the way, does anyone think the dodgers are going to promote LaRoche anytime soon?

2006-07-25 19:48:18
91.   DaveP
82 - Thanks.

17 men on base and 10 combined runs in Vegas so far tonight and it is only the top of the 2nd (2 outs).

2006-07-25 19:48:29
92.   Ladderkite
I'm late. what is up with Harold Reynolds?
2006-07-25 19:50:10
93.   Gen3Blue
I hadn't noticed. What an insult to Izzy ant Martinez, batting behind hall, in this doomed lineup.
Come on--this lineup is a give away.
2006-07-25 19:51:04
94.   Bob Timmermann
L'affaire Reynolds

2006-07-25 19:52:34
95.   StolenMonkey86
Now this is quality. From

Which minor league job should's writers take on?

Concession sales
Ticket sales
General manager
Scoreboard operator
Promotions coordinator
Field manager

2006-07-25 19:53:13
96.   Uncle Miltie
Oh BJ....
2006-07-25 19:53:30
97.   Bluebleeder87

really funny stuff by the way.

2006-07-25 19:53:49
98.   Ladderkite
94 - thank you kindly sir
2006-07-25 19:54:55
99.   Bob Timmermann

You're welcome, but it's not a ManBearPig safe thread.

2006-07-25 19:55:00
100.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder if Hendrickson has any hitting skills.
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2006-07-25 19:55:30
101.   Bob Timmermann

He's hit a home run in the majors.

2006-07-25 19:55:52
102.   StolenMonkey86
the latest post on "Humbug" is great
2006-07-25 19:57:06
103.   trainwreck
Not to self:

If I have a daughter or daughters, don't let them work at ESPN or at least give them muy thai lessons before they go to Bristol.

2006-07-25 19:57:22
104.   LAT
Hearing the fans boo Piazza reminded me of another observation from last nights game. They booed him last night too. They boo Shawn Green when he comes to town. They even booed LoDuca. But when Eric Young came into the game last night nobody said a word. I think most of the fans who boo the former players are to stupid or too young to remember EY or Chan Ho. Its just odd who and why they choose to boo.
2006-07-25 19:58:06
105.   thinkingblue
Suppan twice.
Marquis twice.
and now Park?

This offense is no better than a ham sandwich huh?

2006-07-25 19:58:39
106.   King of the Hobos
"You know, the team is a bad team," Perez said of the last-place Royals. "[But] I could be happy there because I can be the ace on staff or one of the good guys on the staff."

Well at least he's happy. And he generally does best when he's the ace (see 2004). Also, Tomko is expected back for tomorrow's game.

2006-07-25 19:58:42
107.   dzzrtRatt
62 Hmm. I don't see any mentions of the Fraternity of Man in Lowell George's bios, and it appears the song "Don't Bogart Me" (the actual title, probably to keep J. Edgar from getting too interested) was written by Elliot Ingber and Lawrence "Stash" Wagner. George's earlier LA band was called The Factory (and then he briefly played for the Mothers of Invention). Maybe you're thinking of the other hit dope-smoking song of the era, "Willin'." He wrote this song for the Mothers, but Zappa was fervently anti-drug and fired him.
2006-07-25 20:00:25
108.   Bob Timmermann

Which bad team was Odalis speaking of?

2006-07-25 20:00:55
109.   Bob Timmermann
Quentin homers in the 11th to put the DBacks ahead 6-5
2006-07-25 20:01:51
110.   Bluebleeder87
yes even the best ones comit errors.
2006-07-25 20:03:05
111.   Greg S
Didn't Izturis go the entire 2004 season without booting a ground ball?
2006-07-25 20:04:13
112.   DaveP
Coletti is in Vegas scouting the kids tonight right?

Kemp, Loney, Young, Guzman and Laroche are a combined 7 for 8 with 1 BB, 5 RBI and 2 SB (both Kemp). All of this through 2 innings.

2006-07-25 20:04:19
113.   gpellamjr
110 My bubble has burst.

111 Ah, but he wasn't playing third!

As for the trivia question, is it Fernando, Pedro, and Nomo? Again, showing my baseball ignorance.

2006-07-25 20:04:21
114.   underdog
So do we know yet who Tomko is replacing when he's back - Carrara goes back down? Or...? {Dum dum dummmm} {cue sinister music}
2006-07-25 20:04:55
115.   gpellamjr
112 Who made the out?
2006-07-25 20:05:09
116.   Uncle Miltie
"I'm mad because I'm leaving this town. My best years have been here," said Perez, who came to the Dodgers with outfielder Brian Jordan in a January 2002 trade that sent Gary Sheffield to the Atlanta Braves. "Sometimes people judge you because they think your work habits haven't been the same. But that's not true. As a professional, you have your ups and downs. But I don't think I have any mechanical problems."

"This year has been tough," Perez said. "But at the same time, I really appreciate what the people in the front office and the fans have done for me since I've been here. I had a great time here. I didn't want to leave, but it's a business. It's time to move on. It's time to go to a different franchise and show I still have the skill to pitch and the stuff to do it."

No quotes from Elmer yet. I'm sure he's ecstatic.

2006-07-25 20:05:25
117.   StolenMonkey86
two oddities in succession, with conditions
1) Izzy makes and error (from third)
2) Hendrickson strikes someone out (the pitcher)
2006-07-25 20:05:44
118.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
105 - If you mean indictable, then yes.
2006-07-25 20:06:02
119.   Uncle Miltie
Lofton is an absolute beast
2006-07-25 20:06:06
120.   underdog
Kemp also has an OF assist. (And LaRoche and Young both have errors.) Young and Kemp have doubles. Guzman has a triple. Joel Hanrahan has... a long way to go before seeing the majors.
2006-07-25 20:06:10
121.   trainwreck
"I know the heat has something to do with it."
2006-07-25 20:06:11
122.   Andrew Shimmin
107- In Willin', what are whites? Rolling papers? Some kind of pill?

It's the etymology of Little Feat lyrics day, here at DT!

2006-07-25 20:06:17
123.   Bluebleeder87
wow (Lofton still has a little pop)
2006-07-25 20:06:34
124.   StolenMonkey86
113 - what's the trivia question?
2006-07-25 20:06:35
125.   thinkingblue
Hell has frozen over.
2006-07-25 20:06:35
126.   underdog
Kennon Lopko just hit a home run!
2006-07-25 20:06:46
127.   DaveP
115 - Loney.

LaRoche just missed a HR (per Gameday) to end the 2nd so now combined 7 for 9.

2006-07-25 20:07:19
128.   StolenMonkey86
make that three oddities in a row
2006-07-25 20:08:52
129.   DaveP
112 - correction. 3 SB. I forgot Guzman stole a base in the first inning.
2006-07-25 20:09:06
130.   StolenMonkey86
Lofton hits a homer (of CHP, and with 8mph wind out to CF)
2006-07-25 20:10:25
131.   dzzrtRatt
122 Whites were amphetimines. Truck drivers (the heroes saluted in "Willin'") would pop them to do those 24-hour runs.

I recall taking one and driving from New Jersey to two hours outside of St. Louis, nonstop for 22 hours. This was many, many years ago. I was in a hurry.

2006-07-25 20:11:25
132.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Carlos Quentin is having quite the debut for the D-Backs.
2006-07-25 20:12:42
133.   underdog
Damn, I thought Toby had a home run there.
2006-07-25 20:13:17
134.   Bluebleeder87
what is this I see? back to back hits & a dinger.
2006-07-25 20:14:36
135.   StolenMonkey86
Samuel L. Jackson, at ComicCon, on "Snakes in a Plane"

Audience Member: But is the behavior of the snakes at all... realistic? Is that really what snakes on a plane would do?

6,500 Fans in Unison: Boo! Boo!

Jackson: Are you high? Because we asked every [expletive] snake expert in the world, and every [expletive] one of them said that this is EXACTLY what snakes on a plane would do!


2006-07-25 20:16:08
136.   Greg S
Eleemosynary? Okay, I admit it; I had to look it up. Like you guys didn't!
2006-07-25 20:17:39
137.   jujibee
Todays trade makes me feel a little ripped off. That is until I realized it could mean we got a lot more than we gave. I'd take Elmer Dessens, Alex White and 2 mil for Perez Johnson and Pimentel. Come on Ned, get-er-done.
2006-07-25 20:21:20
138.   Marty
Man, it's at least 20 degrees cooler tonight. What a relief. I'm just sitting out on my back porch in the cool air with a bottle of wine and my one healthy dog, looking at the garden. Vin is in the background. I can't hear all that he's saying but it doesn't matter. Who cares what's really happening in the game. Just the sound of his voice is soothing.

It's a good life tonight.

2006-07-25 20:23:24
139.   StolenMonkey86
Hendrickson sends the Pads down 1-2-3. That's 70 pitches for 5 innings.

Now the Dodgers need to score 2 more runs.

2006-07-25 20:24:39
140.   Andrew Shimmin
131- Excellent. Thanks. It makes sense, but wouldn't the weed and wine tend to balance out the whites? I once drove from Green Bay to Denver, straight through, without any drugs.
2006-07-25 20:27:38
141.   JoeyP
Regarding the Reynolds thing...

How hard is it to just not date someone at work? That seems so obvious.

2006-07-25 20:27:42
142.   MartinBillingsley31
Just checked in, i was watching ECW wrestling.

So my favorite whipping boy (lofton) hit a homer.
What's next, izturis will homer?

2006-07-25 20:27:47
143.   Uncle Miltie
Fookie is probably our 2nd best hitter behind Ethier right now (including Nomar and Drew)
2006-07-25 20:28:08
144.   StolenMonkey86
the dangerous power hitter Kenny Lofton comes up, and there's a coaching visit to the mound
2006-07-25 20:28:35
145.   Greg S
141 Who said he was dating anybody?
2006-07-25 20:28:35
146.   CanuckDodger
B.J. LaMura faced 6 batters in his Jacksonville debut tonight, and got 6 strikeouts. That'll do.
2006-07-25 20:30:03
147.   StolenMonkey86
146 - Babe LaMura?
2006-07-25 20:30:46
148.   StolenMonkey86
Ethier getting the full Nomar treatment
2006-07-25 20:33:30
149.   Uncle Miltie
Old Maid should not be hitting ahead of Ledee
2006-07-25 20:33:38
150.   gpellamjr
I'm interested in everyone's predictions for what the opening day lineup will actually look like next year. I'm really ignorant compared to most of you, but I think think Loney will be our 1B and we'll have an outfield including Ethier and Kemp. Any predictions?
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2006-07-25 20:33:47
151.   MartinBillingsley31
Well alright, furcal finally hit the 700 ops mark, can't say that for our 636 ops 3b izturis.

Any more details on the perez/dessens trade?
I'd like to know how much money was freed up from next year's budget?
I don't care about money freed up from this season or in 2008.
I want enough money to sign zito and schmidt and if possible a 3 year or less nomar.

2006-07-25 20:33:55
152.   dzzrtRatt
140 Yes. Back in the 1970s, that's what we were all constantly striving for: Balance.
2006-07-25 20:33:57
153.   thinkingblue

Is he a starter or a reliever?

2006-07-25 20:34:43
154.   thinkingblue

We saved 3 or 4 million, says 3 million.

2006-07-25 20:35:05
155.   underdog
Kemp just hit yet another double, drove in another run.

he was followed by Loney, another hit, another RBI. 10-4 Vegas.

Speaking of the kids...

2006-07-25 20:35:14
156.   Bluebleeder87
what the hell was that??
2006-07-25 20:36:57
157.   thinkingblue

C Martin
1B Loney
2B Kent
SS Furcal
3B LaRoche
LF Ethier
CF Kemp
RF Drew.

2006-07-25 20:37:25
158.   Bluebleeder87
the boys were positioned wrong I guess, from what Vinnie said.
2006-07-25 20:37:55
159.   gpellamjr
156 I'm not certain. Never seen anything like it.
2006-07-25 20:38:22
160.   StolenMonkey86
hey, Hendrickson can actually play defense
2006-07-25 20:38:43
161.   underdog
Wow... so Kemp, Guzman, Young and Loney are a combined 10 for 11 with 8 RBIs. {{Drool}} This is fun.
2006-07-25 20:38:49
162.   gpellamjr
157 That looks about as good as can be expected. Do you think Kent and Drew will hit at all next year?
2006-07-25 20:38:52
163.   trainwreck
I wish it was the old ECW.
2006-07-25 20:39:25
164.   CanuckDodger
153 -- LaMura is a reliever.
2006-07-25 20:39:38
165.   StolenMonkey86
156 - what, for those of us watching on Gameday
2006-07-25 20:41:13
166.   Greg S
157. Hard to argue with that. And it would mean a LOT of money available for pitching. But I must say, it's been more years than I can remember since we could accurately forecast an opening day lineup from 9 months out. Just seems like there is always but always change.
2006-07-25 20:41:28
167.   King of the Hobos
The Cardinals beat the Rockies 1-0 in Coors. Pujols hit a homer to score the run.
2006-07-25 20:41:35
168.   gpellamjr
165 I only wish I knew.
2006-07-25 20:42:05
169.   underdog
You know, Hendrickson, except for one bad pitch to Cameron, has pitched a pretty good game so far but that pitch right there to Gonzalez that just gave them a 3-2 lead was a terrible curve ball. It just hung there like a gift. It's too bad because he really has pitched a good game over all but sometimes one or 2 terrible pitches and that's it.
2006-07-25 20:42:15
170.   Bluebleeder87

I'll get dizzy trying to explain it. Bob are you watching the game?

2006-07-25 20:43:54
171.   MartinBillingsley31
I wish it was the old ECW.

I know.
They are missing the dudlies, raven, rhino, among others, they are all with TNA.
Plus i don't like that vince mcmahon is running ECW, he should just let paul haymen run it.
The only match that was good since it came back that had WWE guys in it was Flair vs Big show 2 weeks ago.
Tonight Kane vs Big show was alright.

2006-07-25 20:44:01
172.   gpellamjr
He held up! Little victories.
2006-07-25 20:44:09
173.   underdog
Never thought I'd be saying this, but that was a good throw by Kenny Lofton.
2006-07-25 20:44:09
174.   Bluebleeder87
did they think Repko was out there?
2006-07-25 20:44:22
175.   StolenMonkey86
169 - yeah, and he's been efficient too
2006-07-25 20:44:37
176.   trainwreck
Clearly the Pads are not coached by Tony La Russa.
2006-07-25 20:44:45
177.   StolenMonkey86
Gonzalez didn't run on Lofton? Is he a fat kid or something?
2006-07-25 20:45:10
178.   Bluebleeder87
we have no luck right now I tell you.
2006-07-25 20:45:23
179.   D4P
Old Friend CHP helps his own cause.
2006-07-25 20:45:38
180.   underdog
Arghhhhh... that was the lamest hit ever. Sigh. The Dodgers can't catch a break. I give up (why now I don't know but there you go...)
2006-07-25 20:46:01
181.   StolenMonkey86
Park hits the Nomar Garciaparra patented magic hit.
2006-07-25 20:46:08
182.   Greg S
165 Piazza doubled into the corner. Ethier's throw came into 2nd but the infielders had all lined up for a throw to 3rd. So nobody was covering 2nd and Saenz ended up fielding the throw. My question is, even if they were lining up for a throw to 3rd, where the heck was Martinez? Unclear from the replay.
2006-07-25 20:46:21
183.   StolenMonkey86
Olmedo's only 5-11
2006-07-25 20:46:25
184.   Bluebleeder87

were is Bob when you need 'em.

2006-07-25 20:47:46
185.   StolenMonkey86
182 - thanks. That is weird
2006-07-25 20:48:44
186.   Andrew Shimmin
165- Double down the left field line, Ethier throws to second. Nobody is covering second. Saenz waddles over to short right field to retrieve the throw, so Piazza doesn't get to third, but it was disjointing to see a throw to a base where the only player in the frame was on the other team.
2006-07-25 20:48:45
187.   StolenMonkey86
Cards 1, Rockies 0
2006-07-25 20:48:51
188.   Bluebleeder87

Mike Piazza was running, why would they.... oh well.

2006-07-25 20:49:30
189.   NPB
Martinez is all over the field, and rarely where he's supposed to be. I smell a Blue Sox scandal! Except the stakes are very low and this team will lose anyway....Very dispiriting.
2006-07-25 20:51:04
190.   StolenMonkey86
189 - he thought he was taking steroids, but they were hallucinogens
2006-07-25 20:53:07
191.   Bluebleeder87
Let's hope Martinez, hits a HRun to make up for it.
2006-07-25 20:53:22
192.   StolenMonkey86
Ledee now 2-3
2006-07-25 20:53:39
193.   skybluestoday
Re: 136

I didn't have to look it up. I remembered it from college. Really!

2006-07-25 20:54:06
194.   Bob Timmermann
Dessens and Perez wear the same size?

Go figure!

2006-07-25 20:55:07
195.   Bluebleeder87
I have my rally cap on.
2006-07-25 20:55:25
196.   Bob Timmermann
My reference was to Dessens being given #45 to wear.
2006-07-25 20:55:28
197.   gpellamjr
194 Now the trade makes sense! They don't have to buy new uniforms. Just meet half way and trade.
2006-07-25 20:56:32
198.   gpellamjr
196 Bob, it wasn't that obscure.
2006-07-25 20:56:36
199.   Greg S
That's a bad bad call at first.
2006-07-25 20:56:56
200.   Uncle Miltie
Izturis was safe...
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2006-07-25 20:57:20
201.   Bob Timmermann

They always talk about players who are a good fit or a good match. We should take that literally.

Hendickson must not have been a good fit as he is much taller than Seo.

2006-07-25 20:57:24
202.   StolenMonkey86
197 - But I think the Royals have the names on the back of the uniforms. The Dodgers come out ahead after all!
2006-07-25 20:57:39
203.   underdog
Boy he was safe, you're right. It shows you much Vin is not a homer-type announcer in that he didn't even question that call. He was clearly safe. Wow. Well, at least he got an RBI there.
2006-07-25 20:58:24
204.   StolenMonkey86
that's 3 consecutive innings they've scored
2006-07-25 20:59:02
205.   Bob Timmermann

Perhaps all baseball uniforms are usufructary.

2006-07-25 20:59:55
206.   StolenMonkey86
who PH's for Hendrickson?
2006-07-25 21:00:07
207.   Greg S
That pitch would have hit him if he hadn't swung.
2006-07-25 21:00:35
208.   gpellamjr
It's a very familiar feeling seeing Dessens warming up in the bullpen. It's like seeing my wife naked or like when my dad used to whip me with that same old belt.
2006-07-25 21:01:25
209.   StolenMonkey86
it'll be DJ Tanner
2006-07-25 21:01:59
210.   Greg S
208 Wow. Don't let your wife see that comparison.
2006-07-25 21:02:09
211.   underdog
Surprising to see Dessens here already warming up - I figured he wouldn't be in til at least tomorrow.

Also, anyone know why Garciaparra isn't going on the DL? Sounds like he's out for the rest of the homestand.

2006-07-25 21:02:28
212.   StolenMonkey86
so it evokes good and bad feelings?
2006-07-25 21:02:57
213.   StolenMonkey86
did Vin have an update on Nomar?
2006-07-25 21:02:59
214.   skybluestoday
RE: 107

I've looked it up, too, and we're both half-right. While it is true that dear Lowell did not contribute to the authorship of the song, it's equally true that he steered Little Feat keyboard virtuoso Billy Payne to The Fraternity of Man (started with George buddies Martin Kibbee [longtime Lowell lyric collaborator] and Richie Hayward [the Feats' peerless drummer now for about 37 years]), keeping in steady touch with them throughout the period, up to and including the "Don't Bogart That Joint" surprise hit for that band. His influence is apparent, they claim to this day. Hence the appropriation of the old tune for the Feat era.

Obscure? Yes. At that time Lowell was working first with the Standells and then subsequently with the Mothers, but he never forgot his old friends. He wasn't with Zappa for long, to be sure -- I have heard an equally potentially apocryphal rumor that the first time Zappa heard "Willin'," he laughed and suggested strongly that George should form his own band, since he obviously had the gift.

2006-07-25 21:03:06
215.   Bob Timmermann
Toby Hall...
Much slower than expected.
2006-07-25 21:03:22
216.   underdog
Also: Argh.
2006-07-25 21:03:27
217.   gpellamjr
210 She knows how I feel.
2006-07-25 21:03:39
218.   LAT
Does KC need a slow light hitting catcher?
2006-07-25 21:03:42
219.   King of the Hobos
Drew finally did his job, but Hall is no Martin when running (although to his credit, he's no Phillips either).
2006-07-25 21:04:06
220.   StolenMonkey86
D'oh! Hall runs like a catcher.
2006-07-25 21:04:27
221.   Greg S
211 Because the homestand has 5 days and the DL is 15.
2006-07-25 21:04:27
222.   Uncle Miltie
What a waste of DJ's hit. Hall is so slow. I could beat him on hopping on an injured foot.
2006-07-25 21:05:22
223.   confucius
Donnelly is a moron for sending him. Furcal was coming up and HALL IS A CATCHER FOR GOD SAKES!!!!
2006-07-25 21:05:27
224.   underdog
213 Yes, he said it sounds like it's nothing serious but he tweaked himself enough to be out likely for the next 4 games plus tonight's.

215 Faster than Jason Phillips but < Jason Repko (or Russ Martin for that matter) Oh well, I guess they're trying to do whatever it takes to score a run but that seemed kind of dumb.

2006-07-25 21:05:28
225.   MartinBillingsley31
Elmer alert.
2006-07-25 21:06:17
226.   underdog
221 Right. I guess if he really will be back in 5 days then it makes sense...
2006-07-25 21:07:34
227.   JoeyP
It didnt take long for Dessens to get to LA.
2006-07-25 21:07:44
228.   Greg S
That play is what's wrong with Furcals defense. He plays on his heels. Hard to watch knowing Izturis is right there.
2006-07-25 21:08:10
229.   Bob Timmermann
Dessens is listed at 5'11", 200 and Perez is listed at 6'2", 220.

I don't know why Vin said Perez will wear a different number in KC. The Royals don't have anyone using 45 now and it's not retired. The Royals have retired 5, 10, and 20.

2006-07-25 21:08:43
230.   underdog
Um... Andre? What was that, amigo? I'm guessing he lost that one in the lights - what looked like it was going to be a nice running (but not super hard) play turned into a... yuck.
2006-07-25 21:08:54
231.   Bob Timmermann

The beauty of flying west.

2006-07-25 21:09:17
232.   Bluebleeder87

he's done it like two times before, Furcal has a hit or two no?

2006-07-25 21:09:33
233.   JoeyP
Even though the Dodgers lineup really blows tonite, the Padres should lose on principle for batting Eric Young leadoff.

That just isnt right.

2006-07-25 21:09:53
234.   Greg S
229 Vin actually said he'll "be wearing a different uniform in Kansas City".
2006-07-25 21:09:53
235.   gpellamjr
230 That play was a double last night. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
2006-07-25 21:10:26
236.   DaveP
Delwyn Young with HR #14 (4 for 4 tonight).
2006-07-25 21:10:49
237.   gpellamjr
234 Different from the other Royals?
2006-07-25 21:12:04
238.   Greg S
237. Uhh, no. Different from uniform he had been wearing.
2006-07-25 21:12:28
239.   Bluebleeder87
come on Dessens get out of this one.
2006-07-25 21:12:34
240.   Andrew Shimmin
237- You have to understand: he's the staff ace. The equipment manager is busy, right now, bejeweling an outfit worthy of him.
2006-07-25 21:12:43
241.   LAT
Words we oftern hear from Vinnie

"Lofton moving back but now coming up"

Who is worse at judging fly balls: Lofton or Stiener?

2006-07-25 21:12:59
242.   gpellamjr
238 That's disappointing. But I'm glad he won't be wearing a Dodger uniform in KC.
2006-07-25 21:14:17
243.   trainwreck
That's what you save 3 million for!
2006-07-25 21:15:06
244.   gpellamjr
240 Give the guy a break, it's not his fault no one appreciates his charity work. Like any good leader, he took it away so we would learn how great he is.
2006-07-25 21:15:11
245.   King of the Hobos
241 As bad as Lofton is, I'd have to say Steiner. Lofton doesn't run to the warning track on infield flies.
2006-07-25 21:16:03
246.   Bob Timmermann
Did anyone mention that before Dessens left he said he was glad he wouldn't have to face Detroit anymore?

This year against Detroit:

4 2/3 IP, 17 H, 14 R, 13 ER

2006-07-25 21:16:25
247.   MartinBillingsley31
Hendrickson is one lucky pitcher, it seems like he always gives up a lot of hits and walks combined plus a homer each game but doesn't allow a lot of runs.
Tonight: 8 hits (1 being a homer) 1 walk in 6 innings but only 4 runs.
2006-07-25 21:16:40
248.   Greg S
Kid left fielder makes an error and pitcher gets out of it anyway. That's what's know as picking up your teammate. Way to go Elmer.
2006-07-25 21:17:27
249.   Uncle Miltie
Good night for Ned to be in Vegas. Maybe he won't trade Delwyn Young now. This comes a day after I was talking about what a disappointment he's been this year.
2006-07-25 21:17:42
250.   Bob Timmermann
Perhaps Odalis, as the staff ace, will be getting a uniform trimmed in ermine with a special purple bejeweled cap.
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2006-07-25 21:19:19
251.   JoeyP
KLoft has a .547 OPS vs LHP in 46Abs.
Not the best matchup for him.
2006-07-25 21:19:43
252.   StolenMonkey86
let's see Ethier against a left-hander
2006-07-25 21:19:49
253.   trainwreck
I really wish Ethier picked a better batting song.
2006-07-25 21:20:28
254.   Bluebleeder87

darn I had forgeten about that one.

2006-07-25 21:20:33
255.   Greg S
250. Ya know, that would be fine by me. The fact that he is wearing ANY uniform other than Dodger type makes me smile.
2006-07-25 21:20:45
256.   StolenMonkey86
AE to AE!
2006-07-25 21:20:57
257.   Bluebleeder87

wich one dose he have?

2006-07-25 21:21:57
258.   trainwreck
POD Alive
2006-07-25 21:22:00
259.   Andrew Shimmin
248- Per this morning's thread, we can't say he got out of it for at least two more innings. Because if the last batter hadn't had to bat until the next inning, the stars would be in slightly different places, and that might cause many astrologically important differences in the way the game might go. Potentially.
2006-07-25 21:22:24
260.   gpellamjr
257 The Internationale
2006-07-25 21:23:08
261.   Greg S
259. I think I'm glad I missed that one.
2006-07-25 21:23:19
262.   King of the Hobos
253 Is it really that much worse than using a song entitled "Girlfight?" Or "Every Time We Touch?"
2006-07-25 21:24:37
263.   Bob Timmermann
If I were a major leaguer, I would want the song "Brandy" by Looking Glass played when I came up.

Or possibly "Along Came Mary" by the Association.

2006-07-25 21:24:46
264.   gpellamjr
The only good one I've yet heard was Voodoo Child for Robin Ventura. He chops down mountains and hits grand slams.
2006-07-25 21:25:37
265.   Bluebleeder87

that was a cool song back then, the band is from San Diego aren't they?

2006-07-25 21:25:41
266.   gpellamjr
263 I would choose "Suicide Is Painless".
2006-07-25 21:26:06
267.   JoeyP
Was it last year or in 2004, where Dessens was one of the team's better relievers, but for whatever reason Tracy just had him mop up?

Dessens at one time had a use.

2006-07-25 21:26:53
268.   Greg S
I think I would want the theme from the Rocky and Bulwinkle cartoon.
2006-07-25 21:27:30
269.   gpellamjr
Roberts/Young. I haven't seen so frightening a combination since Lofton/Izzy.
2006-07-25 21:27:41
270.   MartinBillingsley31
Was it last year or in 2004, where Dessens was one of the team's better relievers, but for whatever reason Tracy just had him mop up?

Yep it was last year.
Tracy screwed up a lot.

2006-07-25 21:27:57
271.   trainwreck
Voodoo Child is sweet. I like Jose Cruz Jr's choice of Would? by Alice in Chains.
2006-07-25 21:28:20
272.   gpellamjr
"...we need no condescending saviors to rule us from a judgement hall..."
2006-07-25 21:28:22
273.   LAT
Looking Glass. . .one of the best one hit wonder bands ever.
2006-07-25 21:28:52
274.   Bluebleeder87
twinkle toes
2006-07-25 21:29:39
275.   LAT
Toby is just not helping his cause tonight. On the bright side, it really makes you appreciate Martin.
2006-07-25 21:30:05
276.   gpellamjr
Maybe "San Tropez" by Pink Floyd.
2006-07-25 21:30:11
277.   Bluebleeder87

sorry I just felt like saying Twinkle toes

2006-07-25 21:31:15
278.   Greg S
How about the opening chords from The Wall?

Yeah, that would be it.

2006-07-25 21:32:10
279.   Eric Stephen
If I were a major leaguer, I would use "Dare to Be Stupid" by Weird Al Yankovic to introduce my at bats.

I still think the best song-athlete combo would be "Yellow Submarine" for Byung-Hyun Kim.

2006-07-25 21:32:15
280.   gpellamjr
Maybe a better Floyd song to choose would be "Several Species of Small Furry Animals In a Tree And Grooving With a Pict." Yeah, that would get me pumped to bat.
2006-07-25 21:32:16
281.   Bluebleeder87
I'd like a song from the band Zoe (Veneno) it's spanish (rock) but spanish.
2006-07-25 21:33:34
282.   the OZ
My choice is 'Paranoid Android' by Radiohead. That would disrupt the pitcher's timing with its 7/8 time signature and somewhat atonal arpeggiation.
2006-07-25 21:34:18
283.   JoeyP
Dessens with 2 dominating innings.
2006-07-25 21:34:35
284.   Uncle Miltie
Lofton hits a HR!
Lofton makes a good catch in the outfield!

The Apocalypse is coming

2006-07-25 21:35:26
285.   Bluebleeder87

I'd hit a dinger every time hearing that song, all 5'7 1/2 of me.

2006-07-25 21:35:32
286.   gpellamjr
284 Don't forget Gonzales's holding when Lofton caught the ball and the violence in Lebanon.
2006-07-25 21:35:49
287.   JoeyP
Wow, looks like Linebrink lost his 8th inning job.
2006-07-25 21:36:25
288.   Greg S
Is it just me or does anybody else cringe every time you know Magic Johnson is about to "WOO!" on FSW. It's become nails on a chalkboard for me.
2006-07-25 21:37:21
289.   gpellamjr
288 You mean because it's so insincere?
2006-07-25 21:37:24
290.   skybluestoday
Re: 280

How about the ungodly-intense scream part from "Careful with that Axe, Eugene" ?


2006-07-25 21:38:53
291.   JoeyP
Ricky Ledee had to have guest starred in Welcome Back Cotter.

When I think of Welcome Back Cotter, I think of Ricky Ledee.

2006-07-25 21:40:40
292.   gpellamjr
290 There's a great show from 1970 where Roger Waters mixes the unintelligible rambling from that song which I mentioned above, but will not repeat, in with the scream from "Careful..." to great effect.
2006-07-25 21:40:46
293.   Bob Timmermann
I hear that Kevin Kennedy thinks that Matt Kemp has power middle in.
2006-07-25 21:41:55
294.   gpellamjr
291 When I think of Cotter I think of the time Horshack guest starred on Ellen. The woman who played Paige on Ellen was incredibly attractive.
2006-07-25 21:41:57
295.   underdog
It's now 18 to 5 Las Vegas as their stats continue to bloat up. Maybe we should call up the whole lineup. Or maybe ask to play Omaha.
2006-07-25 21:42:40
296.   natepurcell
I just won a brand new Cleveland Halo off ebay. 19 degree, 54$ less then store! Horray for me!
2006-07-25 21:44:50
297.   Bob Timmermann

Joely Fisher?

You will see a lot of her during the postseason because Fox will be flacking her new sitcom with Brad Garret to death.

2006-07-25 21:45:21
298.   Greg S
296. Perfect. That's your 5 wood. Couldn't have picked a better one.
2006-07-25 21:46:53
299.   trainwreck
I got some Cleveland clubs in Tiger Woods.
2006-07-25 21:47:54
300.   Andrew Shimmin
294- Is IMDB in error, or did she (Joely Fischer) really play characters called, "Paige Clark," on four completely different, un-spun-off shows?
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2006-07-25 21:48:53
301.   LAT
Now the Baez wheels come off the wagon. I hope for his sake Steve is already in the car.
2006-07-25 21:49:01
302.   Greg S
G'night everybody!
2006-07-25 21:49:02
303.   Eric Stephen
Well, so much for the comeback now.
2006-07-25 21:49:34
304.   gpellamjr
Should I stay up for another bottom of the 9th 6-3 comeback only to see it slip away in the 11th (keep in mind I'm in Ohio)?
2006-07-25 21:49:53
305.   JoeyP
The Cuban Missile Crisis isnt helping his trade value.
2006-07-25 21:49:58
306.   MartinBillingsley31
Well, baez blows up.
What's new?
2006-07-25 21:50:22
307.   StolenMonkey86
so . . . how long till Baez has a higher ERA than Dessens?
2006-07-25 21:50:52
308.   LAT
Vin says Baez hurt himslef on that last pitch. I know it hurt me.
2006-07-25 21:51:06
309.   StolenMonkey86
injury delay. who's hurt?
2006-07-25 21:51:13
310.   Uncle Miltie
296- $54 for a golf club? What a rip off!

Just kidding. I like golf, but I'm not very good. I like going to the driving range occasionally. I can drive a ball 250 yards, but it doesn't always go straight.

2006-07-25 21:51:18
311.   trainwreck
We use Beimel way too much.
2006-07-25 21:51:18
312.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder what happened to Baez?
2006-07-25 21:51:38
313.   JoeyP
If Baez is on the DL, we cant trade him!
2006-07-25 21:51:46
314.   LAT
Ironically, this would have been the spot to use Odalis.
2006-07-25 21:51:49
315.   gpellamjr
Maybe "Suicide is Painless" should play when Baez comes into the game. It seems an alternative worth considering... or maybe a gentle suggestion.
2006-07-25 21:51:50
316.   Bob Timmermann

Sounds like ABC did some cross-promotion of its sitcoms there.

2006-07-25 21:52:17
317.   StolenMonkey86
they should announce that he's been playing with a nagging injury, it finally caught up with him, he'll be out for the rest of the year, but fully recovered by November
2006-07-25 21:52:18
318.   scooplew
If we lose tonight, is this the worst 13-game stretch (1-12) in the history of the franchise since the move to L.A.? Maybe some club historian can answer that.
2006-07-25 21:52:42
319.   natepurcell

actually, 96$ for the club. 50$ less then MSRP.

2006-07-25 21:53:12
320.   Todd Oh wait...that's good...
2006-07-25 21:53:24
321.   JoeyP
If Loney improves as much as AGon has, the Dodgers will be in business.
2006-07-25 21:53:36
322.   underdog
315 ... it brings on many changes.
(And runs.)

Maybe they just caught a break - if Baez is indeed hurt, he can go on the DL, they can call up Tomko for the bullpen, and then some pitcher less deserving of being shelved than Baez can be spared.


Sigh. We need something real to feel happy about.

2006-07-25 21:53:49
323.   Uncle Miltie
2006-07-25 21:54:25
324.   Bluebleeder87

Bob to the rescue.

2006-07-25 21:54:49
325.   JoeyP
Lithium by Nirvana would be a good song for Dodgers management.
2006-07-25 21:55:17
326.   Steve
Give me a break. If you never knew what it was like to be at tropicana field, tonight was a good night to find out.
2006-07-25 21:55:30
327.   alex 7
the Dwould currently draft 10th in the draft next June. How rare is it to find guys like Frank Thomas who can come up and start hitting at the MLB level right away?

I dont follow drafts from year to year other than Dodgers picks, so wondering if it's typical to find at least one 1st round hitter who makes it to the bigs within a year or two of signing. Fielder in Detroit comes to mind.

2006-07-25 21:56:11
328.   underdog
318 I'm guessing the '92 team for instance, may have had a similar stretch or worse...
2006-07-25 21:56:25
329.   scooplew
When do pitchers and catchers report?
2006-07-25 21:57:44
330.   DaveP
Baez leaving with an injury after the ball was hammered reminds me of the time my friend got a breakaway in a Moorpark College summer league game(basketball) and went for the monster dunk. He missed horribly and went down in a heap and stayed down as if he had hurt his ankle during the jump. Afterwards he admitted he was embarrassed and just needed an excuse for such a horrible dunk attempt.
2006-07-25 21:58:47
331.   JoeyP
This is one epic collapse.
2006-07-25 21:59:27
332.   Uncle Miltie
I really hope Beimel was drunk when he got that tattoo near his armpit.
2006-07-25 22:00:36
333.   King of the Hobos
327 Ryan Zimmerman was in the majors 2-3 months after being drafted last year, although it typically takes longer. It seems elite college hitters can make the majors in 1-2 years, but it usually takes a little longer.
2006-07-25 22:00:58
334.   natepurcell

Yea I really like them. I hit the Halo 3i the other day at the range and it was just amazing. I figured that Im getting a new set anyways that has a new 3 iron, I am determined to hit that well but i really wanted a Halo and my 5 wood sucks right now anyways so why not right?

2006-07-25 22:01:36
335.   scooplew
I just looked at the splits for 1992. Although the team tied the L.A. franchise mark of 10 straight losses, its worse 13-game stretch was 2-11. The club also lost 10 straight in 1961. I'll take a quick look there.
2006-07-25 22:02:23
336.   King of the Hobos
307 Thanks to the 3rd run, Baez has a 4.35 ERA, while Dessens is at 4.34.
2006-07-25 22:02:45
337.   JoeyP
I wonder if attendance will be down this weekend, given the weather, the quality of the team, and the quality of opponent?
2006-07-25 22:03:28
338.   Todd
325 No, for management, one would have to go with the (with apologies to the Sex Pistols) Forget the B*llocks, Here's the Dodger Brass.
2006-07-25 22:04:31
339.   MartinBillingsley31
Man izturis really stinks, 624 ops.
I'm thinking under 600 ops is pretty much impossible but izturis is headed there.
2006-07-25 22:04:39
340.   scooplew
The 1961 team, which also lost 10 in a row, preceded that streak with six straight wins and ended it with two consecutive wins. It never went 1-12. This could be the record for a 13-game futility period.
2006-07-25 22:05:16
341.   LAT
2006-07-25 22:06:06
342.   Uncle Miltie
James Loney Sr. has turned into a major league caliber hitter.
2006-07-25 22:06:30
343.   Bluebleeder87
51,000 fans are going home disapointed.
2006-07-25 22:07:16
344.   MartinBillingsley31
My PTIAL (please trade izturis and lofton) campaign only has 6 days left.
2006-07-25 22:07:55
345.   underdog
337 What, you don't think Steve Garvey bobblehead doll night (for first 50,000 in attendance) will pack 'em in??

As far as songs go, I'd like for all of us to hold hands and sing Kumba-ya, but think an early Beck song might suit the Dodgers well these days. Starts with "L"...

2006-07-25 22:09:04
346.   Bob Timmermann
The Marlins now have a better record than the Dodgers.
2006-07-25 22:09:20
347.   JoeyP
Dodgers are 6.5 behind in the NL West.
Dodgers are 6.5 behind in the Wild Card.
2006-07-25 22:11:15
348.   Todd
330 Well your friend (c''s you, huh?) is smart if not fully honest :)
2006-07-25 22:11:45
349.   D4P
That should read "Dodgers are only ___6.5___ games back."
2006-07-25 22:12:44
350.   underdog
If they were 6 or 10 games over 500 that wouldn't be so embarrassing. It's certainly not impossible to come back from that though. The only thing is, and call me wacky, but I think they may have to actually win some games to cut into that.

I'm shutting down now, gotta get my mind off the Dodgers...

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2006-07-25 22:13:00
351.   Todd
345 They should have Steve Garvey Benefit night from the sounds of that man's economic woes.....I kiiiid, I kiiiiiiiid.
2006-07-25 22:13:22
352.   Daniel B
337 Nope. I'll be there wednesday, friday, and saturday. Im actually sitting in 3 different locations on 3 different levels.
2006-07-25 22:13:50
353.   D4P
Congratulations to Rafael Furcal, KFWB's Player of the Game. He got it done.
2006-07-25 22:13:58
354.   underdog
330 sort of like when cats jump to a chair, miss, fall, and then quickly groom themselves to try to get us all to forget about their mishap.
2006-07-25 22:16:03
355.   Bluebleeder87

did you really have to do that Bob?, edgy very edgy.

2006-07-25 22:17:58
356.   Bob Timmermann
The LA Dodgers have never gone 1-12 in any 13-game stretch.

The Brooklyn Dodgers have a bunch of those however. And a few 0-13 stretches.

2006-07-25 22:20:13
357.   JoeyP
Are the Nationals in last place? Match up of two last place teams?

I think the Dodgers just might take that series.

2006-07-25 22:21:07
358.   natepurcell
We are one step closer to David Price guys. Just think of it that way.
2006-07-25 22:22:00
359.   Bluebleeder87
I don't know how Grady dose it I swear, Kudos to him.
2006-07-25 22:22:16
360.   Bob Timmermann
The Nats are 2 1/2 games behind fourth place Philadelphia.
2006-07-25 22:27:18
361.   Bluebleeder87
o.k. peeps have a good night.
2006-07-25 22:34:40
362.   Greg Brock
1-12. Gadzooks.

The ^%$@#^ plane has crashed into the mountain!

2006-07-25 22:37:48
363.   Steve
Well, on a negative note, I could see from right field that izturis was safe. I assume replay confirmed it, because there's nothing harder than a making a good call when you're five feet away and staring at it. On a positive note, my daughter was on diamond vision. On a negative note, I didn't get to watch the game on my beloved gameday.
2006-07-25 22:44:20
364.   Gen3Blue
Ohhhh, I just woke up to find out how we did. This streak is becoming surreal, but it was interesting to see how Baez did. GM's have really dumped their garbage on us apparently. I hope they get stiffed when the come sniffing around for prospects.
6 Days to go!
2006-07-25 22:45:37
365.   DaveP
How did Jon Weber end up on the Tuscon Sidewinders roster? Was he released to make room for someone in Vegas or was he part of some small trade I missed?
2006-07-25 22:48:08
366.   Todd
Well we've got Elmer Dessens back now so everything should be fine, right? Right? (cue crickets)
2006-07-25 22:53:20
367.   Gen3Blue
Actually, I kind of like Elmer!
I just realized Park is right handed--how come Drew got the night off? Is he hurt?
Or just hurting.
2006-07-25 23:06:05
368.   King of the Hobos
365 He was released when Repko started his rehab. Ryan Carter was released at the same time.
2006-07-25 23:15:03
369.   Bob Timmermann

The plane has crashed into the mountain and I think it's only a matter of time before this turns into a scene out of "Alive".

2006-07-26 06:42:14
370.   norcalblue
358, 362 and 369

What I see emerging in this GM is an insecure, petty man who's first priority is to discredit his predecessor.

I work in the public sector (schools). This guy's management style is quite similar to "career superintendents" who, when replacing individuals who dared to challenge the system (and paid the price for doing so), first set out to "purge the system" of the last guy's ideas/reforms.

I sense that there are a few more Navarros and OPs in this system whose days in LA are numbered. The ones in uniform are easier to predict.

BTW, the Los Angeles public schools will soon be getting a Ned Colletti.

2006-07-26 09:25:35
371.   Dark Horse
370-I know a few men like that. They're everywhere, if you know how to look.

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