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Test Your Reaction Time
2006-08-19 16:20
by Jon Weisman
Comments (349)
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2006-08-19 16:25:17
1.   Suffering Bruin
I tried it.

I think I'm getting old.

2006-08-19 16:26:30
2.   Jon Weisman
1 - You were quickest to the new thread, though!

Is the quality of your mouse a factor?

2006-08-19 16:28:29
3.   Suffering Bruin
It's a wireless mouse! That's the problem right there...

My all-time best (after playing this game for all of two minutes) is .203. That'll give something for the kids to shoot for.

2006-08-19 16:28:57
4.   Greg S
Is 8.6 seconds good?
2006-08-19 16:28:59
5.   KG16
I had a difference of .1 seconds between mouse (built-in laptop variety) and keyboard - .24 vs .33.

Too bad I never found a way to make my reaction time useful in a sport that pays millions of dollars.

2006-08-19 16:29:54
6.   Suffering Bruin
.171! I'm addicted!
2006-08-19 16:30:32
7.   KG16
um, those numbers should be reversed, .24 was on the keyboard
2006-08-19 16:33:17
8.   Greg S
Uh-oh. Just discovered that you can cheat. There goes the Garden of Eden.
2006-08-19 16:34:29
9.   regfairfield
8 Yeah, I found that out too. I have a .24 honest time and a .04 cheat time.
2006-08-19 16:35:39
10.   Bluebleeder87
after 8+ tecates i posted my worse # yet 0.25260000000000004
2006-08-19 16:36:43
11.   Bob Timmermann
I'm no expert, but I'm think that after the 1/100th of a second that the digits aren't significant anymore.
2006-08-19 16:37:22
12.   Fallout
I'm using a cordless Logitech MX1000 mouse.
I moved the receiver closer to the mouse when I got the .156. Did that make a difference? Who knows.
2006-08-19 16:40:09
13.   Jeromy
.18 best time. .2 average. Is this helping us all become drag racering commenters? Ready. Set. Comment!
2006-08-19 16:40:42
14.   Jeromy
racing not racering. Being quick doesn't help your spelling.
2006-08-19 16:41:59
15.   Greg S
Yeah? Well I once scored 130,000 on Captain Fantastic.
2006-08-19 16:42:16
16.   Greg Brock
I scored a negative four seconds. I win.
2006-08-19 16:46:37
17.   Bluebleeder87
my best record was .170 something.
2006-08-19 16:48:45
18.   Bob Timmermann
The Reds led 6-0 and 7-3 against the Pirates, but it's just 7-6 now after 4 1/2. If the Reds lose, the DBacks tie the Reds for the wild card at 62-61!

And if that happens, it's possible that on Sunday the NL Wild Card could be a three-way tie among Cincinnati, San Diego, and Arizona at 62-62.

2006-08-19 16:48:48
19.   Bluebleeder87
alot of things come in to play for that game, computer type, mouse, internet speed & so forth.
2006-08-19 16:48:48
20.   Underbruin
I'm so fast that I haven't even done it yet at the time of this comment, yet I already did it.

Oh yeah, I'm that good.

2006-08-19 16:51:55
21.   das411
Ahh the world would be a boring place without the Nationals' starting rotation...8-0 Phils after a 13-batter 3rd inning. Even COLE HAMELS drove in two runs!
2006-08-19 16:52:54
22.   dzzrtRatt
My best time was .125 and my average was .163. The first two times, I used the touchpad, and then I used the button. I was faster on the button.

For those worrying about the wireless mouse, the test says you can touch any key.

This site would've been better if it posted some kind of standard vs. which we could compete. But it was cool. If it turns out I could've been Gary Sheffield, I'm going to be ticked off.

2006-08-19 16:57:06
23.   Greg Brock
20 My most recent score was February.
2006-08-19 16:57:55
24.   Bluebleeder87

all i now is that i'm getting worse & worse the more i play it.

2006-08-19 16:58:09
25.   Greg Brock
23 That didn't sound right.
2006-08-19 16:59:23
26.   Underbruin
23 - Now there's a man with patience.
2006-08-19 17:00:58
27.   dzzrtRatt
This thing's giving me the yips. But I did hit .109 once.
2006-08-19 17:03:32
28.   bluetahoe
I was watching SC and I had no idea the Mariners have lost 17 straight in the division. There's no sense in it. If I'm a Mariners fan I'm starting a petition to have Beltre forcibly removed from the city. The guys a thief in my book.

I see the A's have been playing solid ball and have a comfortable lead winning 12 of 16 this month. I couldn't help but see how old friend Milton Bradley was doing. It doesn't look like he's contributed too much in the A's recent success. Here's Milton's numbers for August....

BA - .212
OBP - .339
SLG - .327
OPS - .666

With a quick click I could see how APerez has faired this month. Not good. In 6 PA's its .000's across the board for Antonio.

2006-08-19 17:04:22
29.   Greg Brock
26 Might as well have put a bullseye on my chest.
2006-08-19 17:04:53
30.   Slikk
Wow, average of .162 my first time. I usually suck at these things. Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jon! :)
2006-08-19 17:05:22
31.   Bluebleeder87
If it turns out I could've been Gary Sheffield, I'm going to be ticked off.

if i found out i could have been Eric Davis i'd be ticked off as well.

2006-08-19 17:05:32
32.   Bob Timmermann
Has there ever been a Dodger equivalent to Kirk Rueter? And would anyone with a career like Rueter's ever get honored before a Dodger game?

It's Kirk Reuter. On his baseball-reference page, the Kirk Reuter Fan Club brags about Reuter:
"You were the 10th winningest lefty from 2001 to 2003."

2006-08-19 17:05:53
33.   popup
I am off shortly to see Las Vegas play at Tacoma. Great night for a game here.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 17:08:23
34.   popup
32 Bob, Doug Rau?
2006-08-19 17:10:40
35.   Greg S
Always wondered why popup doesn't just change his screenname to "Stan from Tacoma" and save the 16 keystrokes. But to each his own. Have fun popup/Stan... let us know what you see!
2006-08-19 17:10:47
36.   Bob Timmermann
Rau pitched parts of 8 seasons for the Dodgers. He didn't pitch much in the last three because of injuries.

And I doubt Doug Rau ever got a ceremony at Dodger Stadium.

2006-08-19 17:11:08
37.   Bluebleeder87
32 Kirk Reuter was an average pitcher at best, but the giants just wanted to tick us off.
2006-08-19 17:12:40
38.   Bluebleeder87
Kirk Reuter is no Sandy Koufax.
2006-08-19 17:12:59
39.   Greg Brock
popup isn't Stan from Tacoma.

Stan from Tacoma is sneaking on to tell us he's been kidnapped by popup.

2006-08-19 17:17:02
40.   Fallout
37 Bluebleeder87

They seem to always do this stuff when playing the Dodgers.

2006-08-19 17:18:36
41.   Bob Timmermann
Rueter was 12-12 in his career against the Dodgers.

He was 11-2 against the Reds, 10-4 against the Reds, 8-2 against the Brewers, and 12-4 against the Padres.

The Braves were not fooled. Rueter was 3-9 against them.

Rueter forever earned my enmity (which is considerable for this inning):

GIANTS 5TH: Rueter singled to pitcher; *high chopper, funny
hop;* On a bunt Lofton singled to third [Rueter to
second]; *right on line, fair, then foul, then Glaus picked it
up just as it came back fair;* Aurilia singled to right
[Rueter scored, Lofton to third]; Kent hit a sacrifice fly to
right [Lofton scored, Aurilia to second (error by Salmon)];
Bonds was walked intentionally; Santiago singled to center
[Aurilia scored, Bonds to second]; Snow flied to right; Sanders
struck out; 3 R, 4 H, 1 E, 2 LOB. Angels 3, Giants 3.

2006-08-19 17:21:06
42.   popup
Bob, I bet the Phillies and especially Dick Allen had a ceremony in honor of Doug Rau. I remember Allen had some crazy numbers against Rau: something like 15 for 17 with a bunch of homeruns. Why he ever pitched to him I will never know.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 17:21:07
43.   Bob Timmermann
Greatest Giants pitchers:

1) Christy Mathewson
2) Carl Hubbell
3) Juan Marichal
4) Kirk Reuter

I doubt Mike McCormick ever got a ceremony like this and he won a Cy Young award.

2006-08-19 17:22:15
44.   Bob Timmermann
Dick Allen vs. Doug Rau according to Retrosheet.
9 for 15, 3 HRs
2006-08-19 17:24:31
45.   Greg Brock
43 No love for William Van Landingham?
2006-08-19 17:25:16
46.   Monterey Chris
Kirk Reuter is only one of two SF Giants with 10 or more wins against the Giants. Anybody know the other one?
2006-08-19 17:27:59
47.   Bob Timmermann
Brett Tomko?
2006-08-19 17:28:31
48.   Greg Brock
46 Dave Dravecky

Too soon?

2006-08-19 17:28:56
49.   Greg Brock
That was bad. I'm sorry.
2006-08-19 17:29:08
50.   Greg S
He's not both of them? =)
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2006-08-19 17:32:11
51.   Daniel Zappala
41 But Bob, if that hadn't happened we might not have seen the greatest finish to a world series in many years. I couldn't possibly be mad at Rueter for something that happened in a World Series that the Angels won.
2006-08-19 17:32:19
52.   popup
46Gaylord? I remember watching Phillies/Dodgers games in the 70's and Allen seemed to mash everything Rau threw. 9 for 15 is not bad, but honestly it seemed like it was even better than that.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 17:33:17
53.   Bob Timmermann
9 for 15 is .600!
2006-08-19 17:33:59
54.   Bluebleeder87
Kirk Reuter is only one of two SF Giants with 10 or more wins

Kirk Reuter has big ears.

2006-08-19 17:36:48
55.   D4P
Kirk Reuter has big ears

Two flaps up

2006-08-19 17:37:36
56.   Monterey Chris
Krukow is the other one. He was announcing the game when they did that quiz. He didn't know the answer.
2006-08-19 17:39:28
57.   Monterey Chris
And sorry for my grammatical error. I am clearly no Jon.
2006-08-19 17:40:25
58.   Bob Timmermann

I have big ears. And I have many Reuterian facial features.

It's my cross to bear.

2006-08-19 17:40:31
59.   Greg S
And who among us is?
2006-08-19 17:40:59
60.   popup
David Ross just cleared the bases for the Reds.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 17:41:32
61.   Bob Timmermann
Warren Spahn pitched for the SF Giants.

I have a feeling that among his 363 wins, he beat the Giants at least 10 times.

2006-08-19 17:42:24
62.   popup
Bob, there should be a ceremony in your honor at Dodger Stadium.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 17:43:05
63.   Bob Timmermann
Checking Retrosheet, from 1958 (when the SF Giants came into being), Warren Spahn won 20 games against San Francisco.

Spahn pitched 16 games for the Giants at the end of his career in 1965.

2006-08-19 17:43:17
64.   popup
Bob, I doubt he had 10 wins as a Giant.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 17:45:09
65.   popup
I remember a Mets game against the Phillies in 1965 or so when Spahn pitched for the Mets and Yogi Berra was his catcher.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 17:45:11
66.   Bob Timmermann
But winning 10 games for the Giants wasn't part of the question here.

Spahn won 3 games for the Giants.

2006-08-19 17:49:10
67.   popup
I misunderstood the question then. I would think that Gaylord defeated the Giants at least once when he pitched for the Padres and the Braves.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 17:49:26
68.   Bluebleeder87
the one player i really liked/was jealous the giants had was Will Clark.
2006-08-19 17:50:30
69.   Bob Timmermann
Yogi Berra caught two games for the Mets in 1965, one against the Phillies, but Spahn didn't pitch in the game. Al Jackson did.

Those would be hard guys to confuse.

2006-08-19 17:50:46
70.   Bluebleeder87
I would think that Gaylord defeated the Giants at least once

Gaylord & SF, that's just wrong. :o)

2006-08-19 17:53:05
71.   StolenMonkey86
I'm getting about a .27 second average with the trackpad mouse buttons

now to test the keyboard speed

2006-08-19 17:55:23
72.   Bluebleeder87
Furcal, SS (his rt. shoulder seems fine...just tightened up last night in the cold)

Lofton, CF (third-best average in baseball since the beginning of last year)

Nomar, 1B

Drew, RF

Kent, 2B

Ethier, LF

Betemit, 3B

Martin, C

Maddux, P (going for Top 10 in wins again)

got the line up from Josh.what do you guys think of the line up.

2006-08-19 17:56:30
73.   Bob Timmermann
Gaylord Perry went 3-4 against the Giants in his career.
2006-08-19 17:56:38
74.   Bluebleeder87
now to test the keyboard speed

my keyboard speed was avg, mouse speed i was above avg.(i think)

2006-08-19 17:57:28
75.   StolenMonkey86
it's worse with the keyboard because sometimes I don't press it hard enough to register, where it's not as easy to do that with the mouse buttons
2006-08-19 18:00:11
76.   popup
My memory may be playing tricks on me. I thought Spahn pitched in a game Berra caught for the Mets. Since I mostly saw Phillies games I thought it was against the Phillies.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 18:02:04
77.   Bluebleeder87
0.1944 my latest score (please note im drinking today)
2006-08-19 18:02:16
78.   Bob Timmermann
Spahn's only appearance as a Met at Philadelphia:
2006-08-19 18:04:01
79.   Greg Brock
77 Noted
2006-08-19 18:04:11
80.   popup
Off to see Tacoma against Las Vegas.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 18:06:00
81.   Bluebleeder87
Maddux #'s in SF? anybody??
2006-08-19 18:07:55
82.   Bluebleeder87
0.25260000000000004 that was my worst score.
2006-08-19 18:11:17
83.   thinkingblue
How is it possible that Hennessy has such a good ERA with that terrible K/BB, and K/9 ratio?
2006-08-19 18:11:46
84.   Bluebleeder87
nice start (furcal gets a hit up the middle)
2006-08-19 18:13:34
85.   Gen3Blue
Can't fault the lineup. Of course, I would like more of our prospects here, but for the now, this may be the best, though I am afraid we are streaky to the extreme, and into a losing streak.
2006-08-19 18:14:42
86.   Jim Ignatowski
Whoa, that test was harder than my cabbie license test. Where was that button they were talking about and what was the traffic signal for?
2006-08-19 18:14:45
87.   Bluebleeder87
Lofton hitting, makes up for his bad fielding men @ 1st & 3rd no outs Garciaparra
2006-08-19 18:15:50
88.   Bluebleeder87
Garciaparra gets a hit to right field 1-0 Dodgers 0 outs D.L. Drew at the bat.
2006-08-19 18:16:38
89.   thinkingblue

I think this is our best line up right now.

2006-08-19 18:16:45
90.   bhsportsguy
I swear, I know he doesn't hit it all the time but really a first pitch fast ball to Nomaar, you are asking for him to hit it.
2006-08-19 18:16:48
91.   Gen3Blue
Darn, from glancing briefly at the posts, I thought Furcals shoulder tightened and he was out, but since he just scored--allright
2006-08-19 18:17:59
92.   Gen3Blue
These guys are not supposed to hit Hennesy.
I hope that breaks down.
2006-08-19 18:19:44
93.   trainwreck
I think Lugo will be the new Toby Hall (complaining about PT).
2006-08-19 18:19:57
94.   Bluebleeder87
passed ball period.
2006-08-19 18:20:18
95.   Greg Brock
2006-08-19 18:20:41
96.   Bluebleeder87
Ethier is making a big case for rookie of the year.
2006-08-19 18:21:53
97.   bhsportsguy
93 Why, has he said anything, I think his situation is different, he knows that he is going to be a free agent shortstop, so as long as gets his 3-4 starts a week, he should be fine.
2006-08-19 18:22:39
98.   Bluebleeder87
Hennessey is shaky to say the least.
2006-08-19 18:22:39
99.   bhsportsguy
96 He has become a very good hitter when he is behind in the count.
2006-08-19 18:23:05
100.   StolenMonkey86
nice, walk Betemit and now you have to deal with Martin
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2006-08-19 18:24:03
101.   Bluebleeder87

he takes pitches very well, he has a very good hitting approach

2006-08-19 18:24:31
102.   bhsportsguy
If the umpire has that big a strike zone, good news for Maddux.
2006-08-19 18:25:02
103.   StolenMonkey86
three runs in the first inning, that's not bad
2006-08-19 18:25:39
104.   bhsportsguy
Time for. a nice 1-2-3 for Maddux.
2006-08-19 18:26:20
105.   Bluebleeder87
let's see what the master has in store for us.
2006-08-19 18:28:46
106.   StolenMonkey86
yep, he can play defense
2006-08-19 18:28:56
107.   Greg S
In each game that Maddux has pitched so far, we have seen Maddux make a great play... and I swear I started typing this before he just made that play. I was gonna say let's see if he does it again! I really think his defense adds a ton to his ability to win
2006-08-19 18:32:01
108.   Bluebleeder87
Time for. a nice 1-2-3 for Maddux.

1,2,3 it is

2006-08-19 18:32:41
109.   bhsportsguy
Its obvious but when a guy like Maddux is pitching, the defense is in the game because they are going get the ball in play quickly.
2006-08-19 18:33:22
110.   Bluebleeder87

he has great reflexs/positions him self well to make a play.

2006-08-19 18:33:22
111.   Gen3Blue
Why can't all are guys who can throw 85mph pitch like Maddox. I tell you, it might be worth quite an effort to analyze and teach this.
2006-08-19 18:33:43
112.   FirstMohican
My 5 times were 0.187, 0.203, 0.203, 0.203 & 0.187. Hmmmmmm...
2006-08-19 18:33:47
113.   Jim Ignatowski
14 pitches in the first inning for Maddux
2006-08-19 18:34:06
114.   Bluebleeder87
apparatly Maddux is superman.
2006-08-19 18:34:55
115.   bhsportsguy
107 All the Dodger pitchers should look at how he finishes his follow through, in perfect position to field.
2006-08-19 18:35:01
116.   trainwreck
That was so awesome hahaha.
2006-08-19 18:35:04
117.   Jim Ignatowski
He's not just a gold glover---he can hit too
2006-08-19 18:35:05
118.   Bluebleeder87
full moon today or something???
2006-08-19 18:35:12
119.   Greg S
Hennessy. His name or what he's drinking?
2006-08-19 18:35:57
120.   bhsportsguy
That was a strange play, it wasn't a squeeze play but somehow they scored not one but two.
2006-08-19 18:36:30
121.   still bevens
He must know how DJ Houlton feels - giving up 9 unearned runs the other day on errors.
2006-08-19 18:36:32
122.   Jim Ignatowski
ESPN is carrying better play televising the LLWS
2006-08-19 18:36:41
123.   Linkmeister
Oy. That was a weird thing to watch. Is this the Little League WS or something?
2006-08-19 18:37:01
124.   Bluebleeder87
how do you score that Bob?? (Furcal)
2006-08-19 18:37:07
125.   bhsportsguy
Its amazing how this team can score runs without hitting homers.
2006-08-19 18:37:14
126.   Linkmeister
122 9 seconds difference!
2006-08-19 18:37:46
127.   Greg S
121 He's not exactly without fault.
2006-08-19 18:37:53
128.   Gen3Blue
Ohh, I love this so much when it happens to the Giant's. Take some pitches, It is within range to sack Hennesy, which would help with the series and the year. I've rarely seen a hitter as consistent as Lofton.
2006-08-19 18:38:42
129.   bluetahoe
Maybe we should bring Lofton back next season. The guy has been a major force in our current stretch of good ball.

His OPS has to be at .800 after the single and double.

2006-08-19 18:38:50
130.   Gen3Blue
Home runs are over-rated. And they are rally killers
2006-08-19 18:40:11
131.   Paul Scott
On Gameday. Can someone describe that 2 run 2 error play?
2006-08-19 18:40:55
132.   thinkingblue

Let me see if I can explain this.

Furcal bunted. Henessy looked at 3rd, and threw wild to first and Maddux scored.

Then, Furcal went to third, and the throw was wild to third, and Furcal went home.

Hennessy's throw home went over the catcher, and Frucal scored.

2006-08-19 18:40:56
133.   bluetahoe
Nomar with the infield. Poor it on boys. Leave no doubt. I want an easy, no nervousness win. Hennessey is DONE
2006-08-19 18:41:19
134.   Bluebleeder87
BOO Birds for Hennessey, out of the game already.
2006-08-19 18:42:09
135.   Jim Ignatowski

Reaction time!!! I've been practicing on that test.

2006-08-19 18:42:13
136.   Greg S
1 inning 4 ER 7 hits . Gross.
2006-08-19 18:42:36
137.   bluetahoe
132. It was a bad bunt. Looked as though Maddux was dead to rights at 3rd but Vizquel was running to cover so Hennessey took the sure out at 1st. LOL.... sure out.
2006-08-19 18:43:07
138.   bhsportsguy
I will try, for some reason Raffy bunts the ball, Hennessy (the pitcher, not the cognac) looks at third and then makes a bad throw down the right field line, Maddux scores, and then as Furcal tries to take third, the throw by Durham(?) is bad and he scores.
2006-08-19 18:43:24
139.   bluetahoe
1st pitch Drew singles home anothern.


2006-08-19 18:44:01
140.   Gen3Blue
Strange. With this lead I wouldn't have been comfortable before. But with Maddox, I feel reasonably good.
2006-08-19 18:44:13
141.   bhsportsguy
If they can get a couple more, I may even go check out a movie tonight.
2006-08-19 18:44:20
142.   Greg S
1 inning 5 ER 7 hits . Grosser.
2006-08-19 18:44:59
143.   bhsportsguy
Okay, what's playing at the Arclight.
2006-08-19 18:45:04
144.   KG16
Jeff Kent hits a triple - that's a sign of the apocalypse, right?
2006-08-19 18:45:07
145.   bhsportsguy
Okay, what's playing at the Arclight.
2006-08-19 18:45:13
146.   Bluebleeder87
were letting the Giants know whos boss. (love it)
2006-08-19 18:45:16
147.   bluetahoe
8-0. Go ahead and chalk up another one in the W column.
2006-08-19 18:45:25
148.   Gen3Blue
133 You may just have it.
2006-08-19 18:45:42
149.   trainwreck
This feels good.
2006-08-19 18:46:01
150.   Greg S
1 inning 6 ER 7 hits . Grossest.
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2006-08-19 18:46:09
151.   bluetahoe
To be fair, Grandma Puckett could reach 3rd base on those shots to right center.

9-0. LOL.

2006-08-19 18:46:18
152.   Paul Scott
145 - Snakes on a Plane!
2006-08-19 18:46:21
153.   bhsportsguy
Best hitter with 2 strikes on the team.
2006-08-19 18:47:13
154.   bluetahoe
OK Boys. It's officially save some of those for tomorrow time.
2006-08-19 18:47:22
155.   regfairfield
Watching all these little squib shots get through, you start to feel a little sorry for the Giants.

Well, not really.

2006-08-19 18:47:43
156.   Greg Brock
If you get bored by the blowout, I can think of another Toaster site which could use your help.

Just sayin'

2006-08-19 18:48:17
157.   thinkingblue

Well, so much for that thought. And more support sabrmetrics, sinkerballer's with terrible K/9 and K/BB ratios with surprising ERA's even out.

2006-08-19 18:48:25
158.   Jim Ignatowski
A legsweep of Bonds by Maddux would be the icing on the cake (although at 65 mph it wouldn't even hurt).
2006-08-19 18:49:04
159.   Greg S
Wow! I just realized there are still no outs. I kinda assumed there were two.
2006-08-19 18:49:11
160.   regfairfield
So, what's the Dodger record for most plate appearances without an out?
2006-08-19 18:49:12
161.   KG16
Ok Greg - remember, chicks dig the long ball
2006-08-19 18:49:54
162.   Paul Scott
We hit around with no outs. It is probably less uncommon than I think, but I cannot recall ever seeing it happen either.
2006-08-19 18:50:23
163.   thinkingblue

kinda even's out Hennessy's amazing luck.

2006-08-19 18:50:44
164.   Suffering Bruin
I almost feel sorry for the Giants.


Okay, I'm lying through my teeth. This is what I call fun.

2006-08-19 18:51:14
165.   Bluebleeder87
7 runs 2nd inning, as far as i'm concerned this is exactly what the Dodgers needed.
2006-08-19 18:51:57
166.   Greg Brock
164 Simple pleasures, hey SB?
2006-08-19 18:52:01
167.   regfairfield
162 Did we do it to Paul Wilson last year, or was that eight in a row?
2006-08-19 18:52:18
168.   Jim Ignatowski
Well the leadoff hitter made the first out----9 batters later!
2006-08-19 18:52:30
169.   KG16
165 - as far as I'm concerned, that's what the Dodgers need every day
2006-08-19 18:52:35
170.   Greg S
I think I'll have a beer for that one.
2006-08-19 18:52:37
171.   Gen3Blue
Ohh, I love this so much when it happens to the Giant's. Take some pitches, It is within range to sack Hennesy, which would help with the series and the year. I've rarely seen a hitter as consistent as Lofton.
2006-08-19 18:53:02
172.   StolenMonkey86
that's 6 earned runs for Hennessey now

game score: 13, and the Giants pen should be exposed to wear and tear

And it's 10-0 after 1 1/2

2006-08-19 18:53:23
173.   bluetahoe
I guess if Maddux retires the 1st 2 in the 2nd then he's thrown a virtual perfect game. 27 in a row. Wait. That don't sound right.
2006-08-19 18:54:22
174.   KG16
So this game should get what, thirty seconds on baseball tonight? (the rest of the hour reserved for the teams from Boston and New York).
2006-08-19 18:54:26
175.   D4P
Is it too early to bring in a defensive substitution for Lofton...?
2006-08-19 18:54:34
176.   Suffering Bruin
166 I am easy to please this glorious summer, my man. I am anxious about the beginning of the school year but I will always remember this summer for:

a) gaining weight by
b) sitting for long periods while
c)watching oodles of electronic entertainment.

Kids. They take summer vacations for granted, you know.

2006-08-19 18:54:53
177.   bluetahoe
167 It was 10 runs in the 1st. I was there. BOOYAH!
2006-08-19 18:55:39
178.   bluetahoe
Don't take KLoft out. I want to seif he can hit for the cycle.
2006-08-19 18:56:13
179.   Jim Ignatowski
Balco Barry now hitting .235
2006-08-19 18:56:15
180.   StolenMonkey86
178 - Kent and Ethier have the triple . . .
2006-08-19 18:56:29
181.   Suffering Bruin
Anybody ever see that before? Nine men going to the plate before an out was made?

Where's the Griddlemeister when you really, really need him?

2006-08-19 18:56:58
182.   regfairfield
179 With a .440 on base.
2006-08-19 18:57:45
183.   bluetahoe
I'm going to tell it like it is. That's what I do. When I heard the rumors of Maddux coming to LA, I didn't want him.
2006-08-19 18:58:08
184.   Greg S
I like taking Kent out. I'd wait a couple of innings and pull Martin too. My guess is they might have been planning to rest him tomorrow with a day game after a night game. Pull him and he can play.
2006-08-19 18:59:12
185.   StolenMonkey86
14 pitches, 2 K
2006-08-19 18:59:50
186.   StolenMonkey86
I think Maddux might actually throw more than 80 pitches today
2006-08-19 19:00:03
187.   Greg Brock
176 Writing lesson plans. Preparing for adds and drops. Scheduling around benchmarks. Midnight is upon us.

Oh, and school starts Monday for me...On my Birthday.

2006-08-19 19:00:09
188.   Bluebleeder87
Well the leadoff hitter made the first out----9 batters later!


2006-08-19 19:00:18
189.   Jim Ignatowski

What are you talking about? There was only one MLB game played today and it was in East Bristol, CN. It deserves the entire sportscenter show and then all of baseball tonight to tell us about Peter Gammons showing up and more in-depth analysis.

2006-08-19 19:00:20
190.   bhsportsguy
181 I went to the scrimmage today at Drake Stadium, Ben Olson looked pretty good but if you believe it, it was the defense that stood out, over 6000 there in the sun.
2006-08-19 19:00:48
191.   KG16
183 - yeah, I wasn't too thrilled by the idea either, but if he keeps pitching like this, I won't complain.
2006-08-19 19:02:28
192.   Linkmeister
Yeah, but with three blowout wins by the Yankees over the Sox, how much misery can the ESPN boys stomach?
2006-08-19 19:03:03
193.   Paul Scott
Well, the odds of it happening (based on a very lose mean OBP) are close to 1 in 20,000. So, with 162 games per every other team each providing , on average, 17.5 chances for it to happen, there are 42,525 opportunities for it to happen.

It's very shoddy math, but probably not too far off. It should happen apx. twice each season.

2006-08-19 19:03:19
194.   Linkmeister
Oh, and how many times will the Boston Massacre be referenced on Sportscenter?

Any wagers (virtual only, ATF; no trouble here, thanks)?

2006-08-19 19:04:22
195.   Mark Joseph

If I remember correctly (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), the major league record for consecutive batters retired by a pitcher is 41, by Jim Barr, who pitched for a team that is currently losing 10-0 in the third inning. Maddux is at 28 now.

I think Gagne once retired 27 in a row over a large number of outings.

2006-08-19 19:04:40
196.   Linkmeister
This Boston Massacre:

2006-08-19 19:07:44
197.   bhsportsguy
Peter Gammons retired that headline back in 1978 when I think the Red Sox swept the Yankees back in July to go ahead by 12-13 games only to end it up with a tie and then Bucky Dent hit that little fly ball that just climbed over the green monster.
2006-08-19 19:07:48
198.   Paul Scott
175 Well, Repko is playing for him now. I am not certain that really qualifies as a defensive replacement, but it didn't get worse.
2006-08-19 19:08:00
199.   Suffering Bruin
187 Starts on your birthday? (gasp)

I'm going to buy something for you. I'm not sure what yet but you deserve something!

2006-08-19 19:08:54
200.   Bluebleeder87
Maddux pitching gives me goosebumps
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2006-08-19 19:09:06
201.   D4P
Lost amid the run-scoring spree, Maddux is off to an interesting start...
2006-08-19 19:09:17
202.   StolenMonkey86
198 - Repko can throw a little farther
2006-08-19 19:09:28
203.   Suffering Bruin
10-0 Los Angeles. I wonder how this will affect the Red Sox and Yankees?



2006-08-19 19:09:59
204.   Paul Scott
202 Yeah, but those throws often bounce off the top of the backstop. ;)
2006-08-19 19:10:23
205.   Jim Ignatowski

Correct--41 consecutive batters retired by Giants pitcher Jim Barr in August 1972

2006-08-19 19:10:32
206.   StolenMonkey86
12 pitches, 2 more K's

Barry gives up and he's going home

2006-08-19 19:10:56
207.   Suffering Bruin
183 You weren't alone. I was excited but one of my favorite writers--Fifth Outfielder--wondered if Maddux was much better than Tomko, IIRC.
2006-08-19 19:11:16
208.   Paul Scott
201 Anyone want to guess when Jon starts banning the use of the word "interesting." :)
2006-08-19 19:11:36
209.   Greg Brock
199 Thanks, but I'll get by. Just keep posting at DT. That's good enough for me.

Plasma TV's are also acceptable.

2006-08-19 19:12:56
210.   StolenMonkey86
208 - here's the entry on interesting:

"Arousing or holding the attention; absorbing."

does it get banned for meaning "arousing?"

2006-08-19 19:13:01
211.   Jim Ignatowski
Barry, Barry! We hardly knew ye. Go rub in some clear.
2006-08-19 19:13:45
212.   Paul Scott
207 I don't think he is, frankly. But I am certainly happy with the results.
2006-08-19 19:14:05
213.   Bluebleeder87
203 Ethier playing for the Yankees?
2006-08-19 19:14:15
214.   bluetahoe
Bobby T might get his 3 inning save tonite.
2006-08-19 19:15:36
215.   Fallout
FSN in SF is showing that Maddox is reaching as high as 89 mph. I find that hard to believe. What do you see in LA?
2006-08-19 19:15:46
216.   Aug C
re: Maddux

So, what are the odds that a pitcher with a "true" ability of roughly 4.90 ERA gives up 2 earned runs over 4 straight outings? Is Maddux a changed man? Is Rick Honeycutt THE man? Did Maddux just raise expectations for the rest of the year way too high? I'm enjoying the ride for now, but just like during our rookies' .900 OPS-fest earlier in the season, I'm scared of the crash.

2006-08-19 19:15:58
217.   Suffering Bruin
201 It will be interesting to see when that happens. Interestingly enough, the word interesting wasn't the most interesting controversy surrounding this very interesting site, but it is interesting to note how interesting it is that the word interesting pops up on this blog as often as Plaschke uses another word that starts with I-N which in itself is interesting.
2006-08-19 19:17:05
218.   Bluebleeder87
Betemit has a Beltre type arm.IMO.
2006-08-19 19:17:11
219.   Suffering Bruin
And yes, 217 is the most annoying thing I've ever written.
2006-08-19 19:17:23
220.   thinkingblue

As 6-4-2 put it, Eastern Sports Propaganda Network.

2006-08-19 19:17:39
221.   mankatododger
Unfortunately I have the Giant broadcast on where it is all "Woody" all the time.
2006-08-19 19:18:09
222.   Suffering Bruin
Aw, man...
2006-08-19 19:18:25
223.   Bluebleeder87
2006-08-19 19:18:32
224.   Vishal
[215] the SF gun is notoriously fast.

btw, i was doing something else earlier and so i didn't see what happened. but what the heck is THIS:

"Rafael Furcal hits a sacrifice bunt. Throwing error by pitcher Brad Hennessey. Greg Maddux scores. Rafael Furcal scores. Throwing error by second baseman Ray Durham."

someone, please explain what the heck happened.

2006-08-19 19:18:34
225.   Greg Brock
217 That kind of insight is, in a word...Fascinating.
2006-08-19 19:18:43
226.   Paul Scott
Sadly, the game is no longer as interesting.
2006-08-19 19:19:03
227.   Suffering Bruin
Greg Maddux pitching great for the Dodgers and guys, do you think the Yankees or Red Sox regret not going after this guy?



2006-08-19 19:20:56
228.   thinkingblue

You had to ask.

2006-08-19 19:20:56
229.   bluetahoe
What's going on here?
2006-08-19 19:21:27
230.   StolenMonkey86
From Dodger Thoughts, July 31, 2006

And you can make a case that he [Maddux] has been unlucky - his Fielding Independent ERA (FIP) is about a run below his actual ERA.

2006-08-19 19:22:09
231.   bhsportsguy
Rally killer by Moises Alou.
2006-08-19 19:22:42
232.   thinkingblue

Remember, in incedibly large leads, and middle innings, Maddux will sometimes let the hitter have one, so that the hitter will remember his success, and Maddux has a bigger advatage. That's what Vin told me.

And it looks true, the way Maddux just dominated the final 2 hitters.

2006-08-19 19:22:42
233.   joekings
10-0 sounds so much better than 10-4
2006-08-19 19:22:47
234.   Suffering Bruin
Vishal! Good to see you, my man... or hear from you or see your words written... never mind!

Okay... Maddux on second, Furcal bunts, fielded by pitcher who looks to third and sees the shortstop covering late (the thirdbaseman charged a few steps on the bunt). Pitcher throws to first to get Furcal and the ball goes up the right field line in foul ground about 15 yards. Maddux scores, Furcal digs for third and the throw from Ray Durham skips past the thirdbaseman. Furcal digs for the plate and beats a late throw for his second slide, his fourth base and second run produced, all one one bunt.

Hope that helps.

2006-08-19 19:23:42
235.   StolenMonkey86
13 pitches, 4 hits, 4 runs, 1 K
2006-08-19 19:23:50
236.   Bluebleeder87
What's going on here?

Maddux wants it to be more interesting. :o)

2006-08-19 19:24:58
237.   StolenMonkey86
236 - but what's more interesting than "interesting?"
2006-08-19 19:25:44
238.   Vishal
[234] hahahah that sounds like how i circled the bases on a bloop over the 2nd baseman in softball this summer.
2006-08-19 19:26:45
239.   Vishal
btw, nice to "see" you too, clay! i'm going to china on monday morning. i wonder if DT is accessible there. blogger is blocked, apparently, so there'll be no 6-4-2.
2006-08-19 19:27:38
240.   skybluestoday
Re: 236

Too much time between innings to sit on the bench!

2006-08-19 19:28:54
241.   Terry A
Probably old news, but I just read the Giants paid a $2.1M signing bonus to ink a 16-year-old DR infielder. Way out of character for the Giants. And the man who made it happen for the Giants? Pablo Peguero.
2006-08-19 19:29:29
242.   Suffering Bruin
You're going to China? Wow. Have a great trip. We'll be looking for a full report.
2006-08-19 19:31:58
243.   Bluebleeder87
Repko's arm get's alot more respect then Lofton's.
2006-08-19 19:32:53
244.   Suffering Bruin
Is that error number one on #5? Or number two?
2006-08-19 19:33:17
245.   Suffering Bruin
Number two. Thanks, Vin.
2006-08-19 19:33:18
246.   bhsportsguy
Don't you ever try this....

2006-08-19 19:33:18
247.   bhsportsguy
Don't you ever try this....

2006-08-19 19:34:50
248.   Suffering Bruin
Trivia time:

Where did the chant "Beat LA" originate?

I have my answer which may or may not be the right answer but it is my answer so you'll have to guess my answer, even if it's not the right answer.

2006-08-19 19:34:52
249.   Greg Brock
I'm going to try it...twice.
2006-08-19 19:34:56
250.   StolenMonkey86
246 - thanks for the warning
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2006-08-19 19:35:07
251.   StolenMonkey86
247 - thanks for the warning
2006-08-19 19:35:13
252.   D4P
It works for Plaschke...
2006-08-19 19:35:53
253.   Suffering Bruin
Okay... this is getting uncomfortable.
2006-08-19 19:36:13
254.   Bluebleeder87
D.L. Drew wanted to be a CF.
2006-08-19 19:36:19
255.   skybluestoday
Should they pull Maddux?
2006-08-19 19:36:49
256.   Vishal
[242] i'm going to be there till january. i'll be sure to check in regularly though :)

[246] he could potentially get 7 years in prison, just because he wanted to talk to some ball players?? our society is messed up.

2006-08-19 19:37:14
257.   StolenMonkey86
I think he can get Linden, but I'd keep him on notice after this inning
2006-08-19 19:37:19
258.   skybluestoday
Oh thank goodness.
2006-08-19 19:37:33
259.   Bluebleeder87
Let's score some more runs please.
2006-08-19 19:37:40
260.   Vishal
Where did the chant "Beat LA" originate?

lakers and celtics?

2006-08-19 19:37:46
261.   Linkmeister
The Dodgers need to restart the offense. They seem to go into mid-game cruise control sometimes.
2006-08-19 19:38:28
262.   Jim Ignatowski

Boston Celtic fans

2006-08-19 19:38:55
263.   Greg Brock
260 Philly and Boston. Celtics fans chanting for the NBA finals.
2006-08-19 19:39:43
264.   StolenMonkey86
I'd let him go until a pinch hitter or his next baserunner, whichever comes first

very clever of him to get his outing where he gives up a bunch of runs out of the way when there's a 10 run lead

2006-08-19 19:40:23
265.   thinkingblue

Well, if Nomar made the play...

2006-08-19 19:40:44
266.   Suffering Bruin
[263} et. al...

Yes, indeedy. Philly was eliminating Boston and the Celtic fans gave them what Dr. J said was "a nice sendoff."

2006-08-19 19:40:59
267.   StolenMonkey86
did Repko get robbed?
2006-08-19 19:43:43
268.   Vishal
[266] haha, but the lakers won anyway :)
2006-08-19 19:44:03
269.   Suffering Bruin
267 No. Linden did a little dance before making the catch but the ball was caught before the wall.
2006-08-19 19:44:44
270.   joekings
I'd really like a 1-2-3 inning here.
2006-08-19 19:45:04
271.   StolenMonkey86
ok. Gameday made it look like it went past the wall
2006-08-19 19:45:30
272.   Bluebleeder87

nah, i'll tell you it's hard to hit a dinger with the thick air in SF.

2006-08-19 19:46:51
273.   Suffering Bruin
Maddux expressing some anger on the mound.
2006-08-19 19:48:35
274.   StolenMonkey86
but the ball found a Betemit
2006-08-19 19:49:16
275.   Bluebleeder87
273 Course words & all.
2006-08-19 19:49:27
276.   StolenMonkey86
that's 80 pitches
2006-08-19 19:50:30
277.   the OZ
272 Why, have you tried? :)

Geez, I turn on the game late (top 2) and it's already out of reach so I flip the channel to Lebowski on TMC and when I come back, it's 10-6.

2006-08-19 19:52:54
278.   Bluebleeder87
Ethier is out of his mini slump 4 hits today.
2006-08-19 19:53:15
279.   StolenMonkey86
Ethier 4-4 tonight
2006-08-19 19:54:02
280.   Bluebleeder87
Lugo has wheels scoring on a pop up. 11-6 dodgers.
2006-08-19 19:55:32
281.   Bluebleeder87
Ethier get's no love from ESPN.
2006-08-19 19:55:46
282.   Gen3Blue
Ahhhh' in the 7th inning the offense realized that maybe they shouldn't have retired in the 2nd.
2006-08-19 19:58:12
283.   StolenMonkey86
Does Maddux go over 80 pitches?
2006-08-19 19:58:40
284.   StolenMonkey86
nope, here comes Tomko
2006-08-19 20:00:06
285.   StolenMonkey86
Maddux gets a game score of 46
2006-08-19 20:00:19
286.   thinkingblue
rally killer by alfonzo.
2006-08-19 20:00:20
287.   thinkingblue
rally killer by alfonzo.
2006-08-19 20:00:29
288.   Gen3Blue
They offense says "ifin we had kept scoring runs we-all could have kept Maddox in. That might have been good!
2006-08-19 20:00:52
289.   Suffering Bruin
I was never totally familiar with the Grabowski principle but almost walking Alfonzo before serving one up... well, I wonder if the principle would apply here?
2006-08-19 20:01:55
290.   Bluebleeder87
Tomko & Hruns go hand in hand.
2006-08-19 20:02:39
291.   regfairfield
289 He's slugging .492, so I don't think it applies.
2006-08-19 20:03:07
292.   Suffering Bruin
Tomko pitched very, very well to Finley and Winn after pitching very poorly against Alfonzo.
2006-08-19 20:04:44
293.   StolenMonkey86
that was Alfonzo's 10th homer of the year
2006-08-19 20:04:55
294.   Suffering Bruin
291 Ah. Thank you.
2006-08-19 20:05:28
295.   StolenMonkey86
inning-ending K, much better
2006-08-19 20:06:07
296.   StolenMonkey86
Grady remembers Chulk. Here comes Olmedo
2006-08-19 20:07:46
297.   ChubbyCubby
Hey Guys -

Diehard Cubs fan here (and baseball fan). I'm adopting the Dodgers as my team to pull for this post season. I'm envious of the talent you guys have.

Anyway, I am watching the game to see Maddux pitch and when Alou hit that 3 run homer, I thought I saw some fan interference. Did anyone else think that? I could have sworn that ball would have dropped or been caught.

2006-08-19 20:09:56
298.   StolenMonkey86
well, maybe not
2006-08-19 20:10:24
299.   Greg S
In San Francisco, unless there is a battery or a projectile of equal size and potential harm thrown, there is no fan interference.
2006-08-19 20:11:49
300.   Suffering Bruin
297 By jove...

I just checked the TiVO replay and I think you're right. It's a mite curious that neither Ethier or Repko argued by I think the fan clearly stuck his glove over the wall.

Nice observation. I don't think anyone here noticed it.

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2006-08-19 20:14:04
301.   StolenMonkey86
intentionally walking Nomar to get to Drew
2006-08-19 20:14:27
302.   Terry A
Steve Bartman?
2006-08-19 20:15:16
303.   StolenMonkey86
drew hitting .264 vs lefties, .308 overall with 'em loaded
2006-08-19 20:16:41
304.   Suffering Bruin
301 Yeah... that's a curious decision right there.
2006-08-19 20:17:11
305.   joekings
Glad Drew made him pay.
2006-08-19 20:17:26
306.   StolenMonkey86
2006-08-19 20:17:48
307.   Bluebleeder87
insurance runs/geico is always welcomed
2006-08-19 20:18:51
308.   joekings
14-7 much better than 11-7
2006-08-19 20:19:00
309.   StolenMonkey86
that sucker was deep
2006-08-19 20:19:39
310.   Suffering Bruin
Guys, the dog is jumping and the wife and kid just got home so I'm off for a walk and some family time. The Dodgers a very fun team to watch these days and it's all the more fun to "watch" the game with such good company.
2006-08-19 20:20:34
311.   Rob M
I swear that looked fair in every replay.
2006-08-19 20:22:22
312.   ChubbyCubby
LOL - Bartman is a Dodger fan now, or so I heard. ;) When the homeruns are that close, it is hard for the outfielder to see while jumping 3 feet up, keeping an eye on the wall, and the other outfielder. Fans - keep your damn hands (and gloves) out of the field.

Yes... I am a little sensitive to that. ;)

I really do like this Dodger team. Maddux and Garciaparra are doing well after leaving the Cubs.

I want the Giants to suffer after we got Dusty Baker from them. LOL

2006-08-19 20:23:32
313.   StolenMonkey86
Drew has 70 RBI now
2006-08-19 20:24:36
314.   Greg S
You know you're playing well when you have to get your best relievers some work in blowout games. I don't even remember what Saito looks like.
2006-08-19 20:25:26
315.   StolenMonkey86
312- I think you have to put some of the blame on Alou for screaming at the fan
2006-08-19 20:27:50
316.   ChubbyCubby
315 - Blame for what?

I'm over the Bartman incident. That play alone didn't lose us the NLCS.

2006-08-19 20:29:24
317.   Greg S
Did Vinny just say "it was all beer and Skittles"?
2006-08-19 20:30:57
318.   StolenMonkey86
316 - no, but it seemed to set the tone

317 - nice

2006-08-19 20:33:20
319.   ChubbyCubby
SportsCenter time. Nice game guys. :)
2006-08-19 20:33:48
320.   dzzrtRatt
317 The expression preceded the fruity candy. Beer and skittles = easy street = a cakewalk = a walk in the park.
2006-08-19 20:36:07
321.   dzzrtRatt
Beltre has a 15-game hitting streak. A quiet one, I guess.
2006-08-19 20:39:57
322.   Greg S
Thanks. Sounded like my diet in college.
2006-08-19 20:41:04
323.   StolenMonkey86
320 - from Wikipedia:

"Skittles® Bite Size Candies, originally made by a company in England, were first introduced in the United States in 1974. In 1982, production of Skittles began in the United States. Skittles sold in the United Kingdom are made in the Czech Republic, where Mars, Incorporated makes them for export to many European Union markets"

I thought Skittles had been around longer than that.

2006-08-19 20:42:23
324.   Jim Ignatowski
Maddux is now tied with Steve Carlton for 10th on the all-time win list at 329.
2006-08-19 20:43:16
325.   Greg Brock
2006-08-19 20:43:29
326.   Greg S
So what were Skittles before they were a fruity candy?
2006-08-19 20:54:36
327.   dzzrtRatt
Skittles was, and is, a game -- kind of like candlepin bowling.
2006-08-19 20:59:34
328.   dzzrtRatt
and it was originally played in pubs.

For many of our ancestors, beer and skittles pretty much was the definition of good times.

2006-08-19 21:08:57
329.   Xeifrank
Just a reminder that there are still openings in the Friends of Dodger Thoughts fantasy football league.
ID: 501880
PW: nomar

2006-08-19 21:10:51
330.   Xeifrank
Great win tonight. I thought the losing streak would never end!! I have to admit I got a little nervous there at the end before the Dodgers scored that 2nd touchdown. Would've been nice to tack on some insurance (a field goal). With the Giants driving late in the game, Drew's sack really ended the Giants hopes of winning. vr, Xei
2006-08-19 22:28:54
331.   Underbruin
329/330 - Can I pick up Drew for the FFL, instead of a defense? =P
2006-08-19 22:30:01
332.   popup
I am just back from Tacoma. Vegas did not do much tonight. Don't know if it has been discussed here, but LaRoche went out with an injury. Took a wild swing at a pitch and seemed to hurt his back or side. Loney finished his at bat and struck out. Finally in the 9th I saw Loney hit a ball hard, a double in the right center gap. LaRoche had a double and walk before he went out. Only 5 hits for Vegas tonight, two by the second baseman Garcia, who hit a homerun for the only Vegas run.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-08-19 22:36:52
333.   trainwreck
I am down for some Fantasy Football.
2006-08-19 22:42:01
334.   Greg Brock
329 Sorry, I'm already in the "Mortal Enemies of Dodger Thoughts" fantasy league.
2006-08-19 22:53:46
335.   Steve
I thought you were Greg Brock not Eric Karros.
2006-08-19 22:57:24
336.   Greg Brock
335 Hey everybody...Steve!
2006-08-19 23:09:13
337.   Steve
If Julio lugo was a dodger thoughts comment, he would have been banned weeks ago.
2006-08-19 23:23:58
338.   Longhorn Bill
Not a regular poster, but a big fantasy football fan... and an even bigger dodger fan. I look forward to dominating the dodgerthoughts league like the tomato dominates lefties!
2006-08-19 23:35:20
339.   Underbruin
And the trash-talking begins.
2006-08-20 06:44:27
340.   Eric Enders
Plaschke, for once, had a really good idea in his column this morning.

"Sitting with the statues of Willie Mays, Willie McCovey and Juan Marichal at San Francisco's AT&T Park on Saturday, this Southern Californian wondered.

Isn't it time for the Dodgers to erect a statue of someone at Chavez Ravine?

The figures of Magic Johnson and Wayne Gretzky in front of Staples Center not only give the building class, but community, serving as a meeting spot for hundreds of fans nightly.

"Meet me at the Sandy Koufax statue?"

Sounds good to me."

2006-08-20 07:59:41
341.   Jon Weisman
340 - has been pushing for this for a long time. There's a petition there.
2006-08-20 08:08:52
342.   Eric Enders
I was going under the assumption that since it's such a good idea, it couldn't possibly have originally been Plaschke's.
2006-08-20 08:20:18
343.   Bob Timmermann
Where do you put a statue at Dodger Stadium so everybody can see it? Dodger Stadium doesn't have a central entrance? The only place that would be attractive would the entrance to the Top Deck.

The vast majority of fans enter through gates that directly abut parking lots.

2006-08-20 08:30:31
344.   Disabled List
Statue, shmatue. I want to see the Dodgers open up their own Hall of Fame and Museum. About a week or two ago, ESPN Magazine had a little feature about the warehouse full of Dodger memorabilia that Peter O'Malley hoarded up over the years. All that stuff should be put on display.

As for the Brooklyn/LA Dodgers' Hall of Fame, that could be a nice topic of discussion here. Who would get in?

All of the Dodgers' Cooperstown HoFers would be in, obviously. Wills, Garvey and Valenzuela would finally get their enshrining moments. Other locks would be guys like Hershiser, Cey, Russell, Lopes. I'll bet Kirk Gibson would get in. Brooklyn-era guys like Hodges, Furillo, and Podres would definitely be included. There's lots of other candidates. Who else?

2006-08-20 08:55:59
345.   Jon Weisman
343 - Aren't they redesigning the area behind center field? Whether or not people actually meet there, a lot of people drive by it. They could have a nice little pavilion to honor Koufax and/or whomever.
2006-08-20 09:00:41
346.   Eric Enders
344 "All of the Dodgers' Cooperstown HoFers would be in, obviously."

I disagree. Guys like Hoyt Wilhelm, Frank Robinson, and Casey Stengel wouldn't make it. Heck, even some guys who are in the HOF and were primarily Dodgers probably wouldn't make it. I don't think there's a Burleigh Grimes Marching and Chowder Society out there.

Team Halls of Fame like this are strange because the criteria include both actual ballplaying credentials and how beloved you were by the fans. Maury Wills, for example, objectively is probably not even the 50th best Dodger ever, but his popularity with the fans was such that he'd be among the first inductees into a Dodger Hall of Fame. Same goes for Fernando, for that matter.

In approximate order of preference, here are my top 20 candidates for an L.A. Dodgers Hall of Fame (giving some weight to excellence and some to karma). I kept it to L.A. guys because, realistically, I think your average Dodger fan (and your current team owner) really don't care one whit about the Brooklyn days.

W. Davis
T. Davis
R. Martinez

Obviously room would also have to be made for Alston and [holds nose] Lasorda. And Vinny should have a plaque five times as big as all the others.

Other guys I'd consider are Nomo, Karros, Baker, Osteen, R Smith, Mondesi, Podres, Sax, Green, Russell, and a persional favorite, Dave Hansen.

2006-08-20 09:02:01
347.   Eric Enders
Incidentally, I'm all for passing a rule that only left-handed people can have statues at Dodger Stadium.

I'm thinking three statues would be good: Koufax, Fernando, and a fist-in-the-air Gibson.

2006-08-20 09:02:59
348.   Jon Weisman
Game thread is open early for once.
2006-08-20 09:04:27
349.   Jon Weisman
Eric, you can paste your Dodger honoree list there. But I think there would be some interest in the big names from Brooklyn. Robinson, Campanella, etc.

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