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September 5 Game Chat
2006-09-05 16:00
by Jon Weisman
Comments (274)
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2006-09-05 16:19:50
1.   Jacob L
This season is really starting to remind me of 2004. Everything seemed great for awhile, and then it was like, "We've got to get through September with these pitchers?"
2006-09-05 16:21:57
2.   Icaros
Since Doug Davis is pitching, it is my duty to remind everyone here about the time I got a base hit off of him during a junior college summer school exhibition game. I was 17, and the coach actually yelled at Davis for wasting a curveball on me when I obviously couldn't touch his fastball (ouch).

I also played against Davis in high school, and I remember one time my JV squad really rocked him, including my best friend at the time who hit one out. Unfortunately, I platooned at 2B that year, and that game was one of my "days off."

I remember Doug being a nice guy, though. We all knew he'd been drafted when I met him during college, but he was very unassuming and non-arrogant.

2006-09-05 16:28:54
3.   Jacob L
2 Way to go Icaros! You've got bragging rights over any Dodger that 0fers tonight.
2006-09-05 16:32:20
4.   Gagne55
Martin is catching Hendrickson? :-X

Matt "swing at everything" Kemp is in the line-up, I see. Yet, I still have the feeling that Davis will get tourched.

2006-09-05 16:33:37
5.   Gagne55
Woops, I forgot to add ":-)" to the end of that last post. O:-)
2006-09-05 16:38:22
6.   GoBears
(4) tourched: passed by Lance Armstrong on one of the mountain stages.
2006-09-05 16:40:18
7.   thinkingblue

More like Matt "I can't hit a breaking pitch" Kemp.

2006-09-05 16:41:40
8.   trainwreck
Doug Davis went to my high school. What highschool and JC did you play for?
2006-09-05 16:43:33
9.   natepurcell
how about.. Matt "i hit 346/414/543 between AA and AAA at age 21" Kemp?

I think that works better.

2006-09-05 16:44:35
10.   natepurcell
can someone link me to the colletti chat transcipt. thanks.
2006-09-05 16:44:47
11.   50 years a Dodger Fan
If Kemp doesn't look good this month, we're Soriano bound.
2006-09-05 16:46:44
12.   Icaros

I went to Benicia High. The JC was DVC, but I wasn't good enough to actually play there. It was just a practice game.

2006-09-05 16:46:49
13.   50 years a Dodger Fan
Soriano is a fast dude, couldn't he learn to play CF?
2006-09-05 16:47:25
14.   thinkingblue

I realize Matt has a learning curve, and judging him on this kind of a sample size would be foolish. But right now he can't hit a major league breaking pitch.

2006-09-05 16:50:29
15.   natepurcell
But right now he can't hit a major league breaking pitch.

by saying that, arent you judging him on the foolish sample size?

2006-09-05 16:52:59
16.   overkill94
14 During his previous stint he couldn't hit a breaking pitch. We don't know what kind of knowledge he learned in his time with Las Vegas where he hit everything in sight.
2006-09-05 16:55:52
17.   jasonungar05
Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come.

Kemp just needs a little Jobu love.

2006-09-05 16:55:58
18.   Jacob L
Well, hopefully Doug Davis gets the same advice on Kemp that he got on Icaros.
2006-09-05 16:56:33
19.   Icaros
When the Dodgers face Chicago in the World Series this year I'll get to pull out my even better personal glory of striking out Jermaine Dye in Senior Babe Ruth.

Sure, he was batting left-handed in an attempt to switch hit, and at least one of the strikes I got was a home-run-distance-foul-ball, but he chased a nasty change in the dirt for strike three and walked himself back to that dugout, and that's the truth.

My team eventually got ten-run-ruled that day, as usual.

2006-09-05 16:56:44
20.   overkill94
Just to irk Xeifrank once he gets here, I'm gonna do a little movie talk ;)

First off, I just watched Vertigo, the old Hitchcock classic. It was a good movie with some nice tense moments, but the ending was just horrible I thought. Overall grade: 3.5/5

Also, for those of you who use and/or love making fun of horrible movies, I think the first two 0% major release movies have come out, and they were both within the last month! Crossover, that new horrible street ball movie, got a 0/52 and Zoom, the horrible kid super hero movie with Tim Allen, got a 0/48.

2006-09-05 16:57:57
21.   Icaros
For the record, I have no other brushes with athletic fame to speak of.
2006-09-05 17:04:39
22.   xaphor
[20] the ending was just horrible I thought.

Blasphemy! Nothing more need be said. Go watch it again :)

2006-09-05 17:05:39
23.   Bob Timmermann
If you're watching "Vertigo" for an airtight plot with a sensible ending, then you're not watching it for the right reason.
2006-09-05 17:06:58
24.   trainwreck
I went to DVC for a couple years.
2006-09-05 17:08:40
25.   StolenMonkey86
13 - he'd be like a healthier Kenny Lofton defensively, yet be capable of blasting 40 homers!
2006-09-05 17:10:29
26.   Disabled List
Interesting item from game notes:

As a result of his decision not to add highly touted prospect Andy LaRoche to the September call-up list, GM Ned Colletti instead purchased the contract of Icaros, a 2B-P who had been toiling away in a distant outpost of the organization.

"He provides a nice two-way threat on the infield," said Colletti, who added that Icaros has had success against major league talent in the past.

Icaros will also likely be ahead of Julio Lugo on the Dodgers infield depth chart.

2006-09-05 17:10:31
27.   overkill94
23 That's the thing, I enjoyed the movie in general (even with the obvious plot holes), but I felt it needed a big payoff at the end to make it truly great. In fact, pretty much everything post-initial climax was a bit of a letdown.
2006-09-05 17:11:02
28.   Eric Enders
20, 22 I can't believe what I just read!

Unless you mean the ending was horrible for technical reasons, with the laughable matte shot, in which case you're probably right.

2006-09-05 17:15:16
29.   overkill94
Why the heck didn't Furcal slide?
2006-09-05 17:16:09
30.   overkill94
28 No, I thought the ending was horrible because it seemed almost tacked-on.
2006-09-05 17:16:36
31.   50 years a Dodger Fan
25 We sign Soriano; trade Drew to the Yankees for A-Rod; Kemp and Ethier are the corner outfielders; Betemit and LaRoche on the bench with Saenz and Lofton. Add Schmidt and a catcher... Nice daydream.
2006-09-05 17:17:26
32.   Eric Enders
14, 16 "But right now he can't hit a major league breaking pitch.
During his previous stint he couldn't hit a breaking pitch. We don't know what kind of knowledge he learned in his time with Las Vegas where he hit everything in sight."

Disagree with that. At least one of his homers came on a curveball and at least one other came on a changeup. (I think there were more offspeed pitches that he crushed, too, but those two I do remember for certain.)

I'm not saying he's the world's greatest curveball hitter, but I am saying that even with the too-small-to-judge sample size, he hasn't really struggled with offspeed pitches. He's struggled to lay off the bad ones, but that's a completely different problem from "not being able to hit the curveball."

2006-09-05 17:17:44
33.   overkill94
I think the Yankees have enough outfielders now
2006-09-05 17:18:41
34.   Eric Enders
31 Since you are by your own admission daydreaming, I'm going to assume the Schmidt you want is Mike....
2006-09-05 17:19:47
35.   trainwreck
Just a bit overthrown.
2006-09-05 17:20:32
36.   trainwreck
Well this has the makings of a screwy game.
2006-09-05 17:21:32
37.   overkill94
Someone tell the Dodgers that Prince Fielder isn't Babe Ruth.
2006-09-05 17:21:39
38.   Bob Timmermann
I want either Dave Schmidt or Boss Schmidt.
2006-09-05 17:22:53
39.   overkill94
How about Holy Schmidt?
2006-09-05 17:24:28
40.   Jacob L
30 There's no doubt that the last 20 minutes of the movie are awkward, because you feel like you've seen the ending of a conventional thriller when "Madeleine" dies. Nevertheles, some of the movie's absolute best moments occur in this section -
1. the mad scene - I guess its corny, but I love it.
2. the shot when he's finally made her up to look like Madeleine again, and the camera circles around them, recreating the scene at the mission.
3. the last scene when, as he's dragging her up the stairs, and he's going off on her for manipulating him, and he breaks down when he realizes why she kept the necklace.
2006-09-05 17:25:06
41.   StolenMonkey86
trade Drew to the Yankees for A-Rod

What would make Brian Cashman do that? If anything, I'd expect him to be un-Cashman-like and trade Arod for prospects to make a statement. I don't think they'd take Drew for a guy with 31 homers already who's hitting .283/.380/.515 in an off-year; that's Dave Littlefield territory.

2006-09-05 17:25:36
42.   Bluebleeder87
IMO if Hendy dons't pitch well today he's toast as a starter.
2006-09-05 17:26:08
43.   overkill94
Hendrickson sucks
2006-09-05 17:26:17
44.   regfairfield
Welcome to the rotation, Kuo.
2006-09-05 17:26:56
45.   Disabled List





2006-09-05 17:27:21
46.   Bluebleeder87

I 2nd you're thoughts.

2006-09-05 17:27:33
47.   overkill94

1. Nope, just plain corny :)
2. Excellent scene
3. Also good, but then ruined by the ensuing scene

2006-09-05 17:28:13
48.   Jacob L
41 Plus, in the prevailing Yankee fan/media nonsense, the problem with the incredibly productive Arod is that he's not a "gamer," or something like that. Not a problem that can be solved with JD Drew.
2006-09-05 17:28:22
49.   StolenMonkey86
Why couldn't we have tried Dioner Navarro as a starting pitcher?
2006-09-05 17:28:27
50.   Telemachos
I think it's safe to safe that this won't be the stellar start Hendrickson needed to keep his spot in the rotation.
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2006-09-05 17:28:31
51.   Linkmeister
Don't I remember that Hendrickson had given up very few homeruns with TB? Since the AL is by far the league with more sluggers, how is it that he seems to give up so many now?
2006-09-05 17:29:23
52.   overkill94
And to think I thought Hendrickson would actually get better with a move to the NL. I guess I get a little too excited about guys when they start doing well for my fantasy team.
2006-09-05 17:29:28
53.   StolenMonkey86
48 - Oooh! Laroche and Repko for Arod. Problem solved.
2006-09-05 17:29:41
54.   regfairfield
51 Hendrickson's home run rate was only .88 coming into this game, and the game before that it was only .64.
2006-09-05 17:32:51
55.   StolenMonkey86
Hendrickson's career homer rate is 1.09 per 9.
2006-09-05 17:33:49
56.   StolenMonkey86
let's see if Kemp can work on his numbers against lefties in the majors
2006-09-05 17:36:42
57.   Bluebleeder87
Lugo why oh why Lugo!!!
2006-09-05 17:37:08
58.   regfairfield
You'd think Dioner Navarro, a guy with a higher OPS than Ivan Rodriguez, would get more respect.
2006-09-05 17:37:17
59.   Bluebleeder87

you can't throw a fast ball inside past Kemp Period.

2006-09-05 17:37:21
60.   StolenMonkey86
its ok. he got it in the air
2006-09-05 17:37:47
61.   JoeyP
Saenz should play 3rd base against left handed starters.

Grady is wasting a valuable asset by giving Lugo playing time.

2006-09-05 17:37:58
62.   Bluebleeder87

please look @ his D.

2006-09-05 17:39:42
63.   regfairfield
62 He has a 38% caught stealing percentage.
2006-09-05 17:40:11
64.   Bluebleeder87

no disrespect but if you're a players players, Navarro tended to fall asleep back there.

2006-09-05 17:40:29
65.   overkill94
58 Actually, their OPS's were identical going into today and Pudge is 1-2 while Navarro is 0-2. Not to mention they both have very uninspiring .734 marks.
2006-09-05 17:41:02
66.   Bluebleeder87

how many passed balls did he have, how many chances has he had?? in BOTH areas??

2006-09-05 17:42:07
67.   King of the Hobos
Kuo is the official starter on Friday according to Steiner.
2006-09-05 17:43:17
68.   regfairfield
65 I was looking at his combined OPS when I said that. Russell Martin is better, I just don't like the fact that its implied that we dodged a bullet when we got rid of Navarro.
2006-09-05 17:43:24
69.   Jacob L
67 I guess Kuo is a good choice considering the options, but I reiterate my 1.
2006-09-05 17:43:30
70.   Bluebleeder87

good to know


maybe i'm wrong i go by look & not my #'s.

2006-09-05 17:44:20
71.   overkill94
Where are these pitches missing?
2006-09-05 17:44:54
72.   regfairfield
66 Three in 61.6 games.
2006-09-05 17:45:23
73.   overkill94
68 Oops, darn Yahoo and their league separating ways!
2006-09-05 17:46:19
74.   StolenMonkey86
Navarro's line in TB:


Pudge's line:


At this point in his career, he's ahead of Pudge offensively. MLB doesn't have SB/CS numbers before 1999, so I can't compare defense. Woulda been nice if he didn't backhand everything, though.

2006-09-05 17:46:22
75.   Bluebleeder87
how many more games has R. Martin played then Navarro, again i'm going by look & not by #'s so please don't think i'm attacking you.
2006-09-05 17:47:31
76.   regfairfield
75 Russell Martin is better than Navarro, I don't dispute that.
2006-09-05 17:47:39
77.   StolenMonkey86
Come on, Ben Sheets got a hit this year. Your turn Hendrickson.
2006-09-05 17:48:27
78.   regfairfield
Hendrickson is quite possibly the worst hitter I've ever seen.
2006-09-05 17:48:48
79.   Jacob L
Is the question whether Navarro is better than Martin or Pudge, or whether he's better than Hendrickson or Hall?
2006-09-05 17:49:26
80.   Bluebleeder87

i think that title belongs to Sele. :o)

2006-09-05 17:49:27
81.   regfairfield
All I'm trying to say is that Dioner Navarro doesn't suck. That's all.
2006-09-05 17:50:03
82.   Eric Enders
Okay, so I have no idea what's going on in the game other than reading the above comments. I'm about finished trying to get some late work done.

So the question is: Is the game so far gone that it's not even worth worth turning on the tivo? Should tonight be a Netflix night?

2006-09-05 17:50:39
83.   StolenMonkey86
Martin's thrown out 28.9% of baserunners. I don't know how relevant of a comparison this is, but he gets thrown out 30.8% of the time.
2006-09-05 17:50:43
84.   Eric Enders
79 You can't spell "Hall of Fame" without Hall.
2006-09-05 17:50:52
85.   Jacob L
82 I say watch the game, though its not encouraging.
2006-09-05 17:51:05
86.   Bluebleeder87

Pudge'S resume forget about it, but Navarro vs Russell give me a break.

2006-09-05 17:52:17
87.   Bluebleeder87
i just hope Hendy keeps us in the game
2006-09-05 17:52:36
88.   JJoeScott
Woulda been nice if he didn't backhand everything, though.

Which is the point being made in #64. Bad mechanics = banishment to Tampa Bay.

2006-09-05 17:53:01
89.   JoeyP
If they are going to keep Lofton in there vs LHP, it might be a good idea to switch Martin/Lofton in the batting order.
2006-09-05 17:54:15
90.   StolenMonkey86
82 - He sent the Brewers down 1-2-3 last inning, and even though they were the 7-8-9 guys, that's nto bad.
2006-09-05 17:56:32
91.   xaphor
Have the Dodgers ever had a costumed mascot?
2006-09-05 17:57:23
92.   Bob Timmermann

Not in Los Angeles.

So it's a safe bet they haven't had one ever.

2006-09-05 17:59:24
93.   regfairfield
They had a giant Louie Anderson one time I went.

Oh, and while its not a mascot, there was an animatronic scoreboard marionette that we booed out of existence.

2006-09-05 18:00:11
94.   Bluebleeder87
Hendy just keep us 3-0
2006-09-05 18:00:12
95.   Telemachos
Good Lord, I hate to keep bagging on the guy, but how on earth is Hendrickson still in the starting rotation?
2006-09-05 18:00:40
96.   Bluebleeder87

thank god. :o)

2006-09-05 18:00:52
97.   Bob Timmermann
That was the prototype for Scooter! He debuted on Fan Appreciation Day.

The fans didn't appreciate him.

2006-09-05 18:01:30
98.   Bob Timmermann
I'm curious as to why Tony Graffanino is going to town on the Dodgers the last two days.
2006-09-05 18:01:50
99.   Gen3Blue
The D's have given the impression that if you get ahead of them by much, they aren't going to use their good relievers or try. But wait I've got to see the Brews pitcher.

But our starters are inconsistent, and the ones in between the inconsistant ones are weak. This is where we must improve. With slightly above average starters, we wouyld be an incredible dynasty for many years.

2006-09-05 18:02:36
100.   regfairfield
97 The best part was when he read the lineup because he "knew it by heart", but unfortunately, the Dodgers were eliminated so he somehow knew the dreaded Damon Hollins, Larry Barnes heart of the order.
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2006-09-05 18:02:47
101.   Bluebleeder87
Hendy gives me hope & strikes out Fielder. double play now.
2006-09-05 18:03:08
102.   JoeyP
Hendrickson K's Prince Fielder.
Yesterday Prince GIDP'ed against Hamulack.
2006-09-05 18:04:59
103.   Bob Timmermann
This was the game that the "Scooter" type character appeared:

Note that in that game, the Brewers scored 1 run, but left 15 men on. Check out Bobby Hughes's day.

2006-09-05 18:05:32
104.   Bluebleeder87
this is Hendy's last start imo.
2006-09-05 18:05:36
105.   King of the Hobos
Looks like Stults may get to make his major league debut and audition for Sunday's start. Dave Williams is starting for the Mets, so it doesn't really matter who starts. I predict a lot of runs in that game for both teams.
2006-09-05 18:05:42
106.   StolenMonkey86
Fielder does hit .241 against lefties
2006-09-05 18:05:49
107.   Gen3Blue
The D's starters, when they are in a bad streak, give no chance to the offence. This pitcher has had so many men on base that the defense has fallen apart. I'm very pessimistic about what will happen with the Mets.
If these starters bury the D's in the first inning--the Mets will kill them.
2006-09-05 18:06:56
108.   StolenMonkey86
I say send him to the pen. He will gain respect if he beans Bonds
2006-09-05 18:07:35
109.   Gen3Blue
I'm retiring. These pitchers are making a laughing stock of the Dodgers.
2006-09-05 18:07:47
110.   StolenMonkey86
Grady will gain my respect if Hendrickson only comes in to bean Bonds.
2006-09-05 18:09:10
111.   Eric Enders
91 "Have the Dodgers ever had a costumed mascot?"

Yes, of course they have.

I haven't read the subsequent posts, so if somebody beat me to that answer... well, shame on you.

I'm off to watch the game now, with thumb already gravitating toward the fast forward button. See you guys later.

2006-09-05 18:09:33
112.   ddger
Grady bring in anybody, even Gio to replace Hendrickson.
2006-09-05 18:11:07
113.   Bluebleeder87
Hendrcison is not fooling anybody.
2006-09-05 18:12:04
114.   trainwreck
f f f f fooling
2006-09-05 18:12:18
115.   JoeyP
69 pitches for Hendrickson through 3 ip.
2006-09-05 18:13:00
116.   Bluebleeder87
the devil ray G.M. did magical powers over Ned, i love his trades but against the devil rays, there G.M. took him to school PERIOD!!
2006-09-05 18:13:36
117.   Tommy Naccarato
Just a question here:

Has Hall caught Hendrickson every start? When are we going to give someone from the stands a chance to pitch? I think it would be just as good a chance we would get a win.

I was hoping you had an over and under for how long it took me to figure out the guise of The Illusionist.

While I enjoyed the movie--plot holes and all--I hope you figured I would know what was happening less then 15 minutes into the movie.

2006-09-05 18:14:47
118.   Andrew Shimmin
111- Shame on you. But funny. It reminds me of this:
2006-09-05 18:15:29
119.   bigcpa
The ugliest Hendrickson fact of them all:

Career 02-05    557ip, 5.21 ERA
Tampa 2006       90ip, 3.81 ERA
L.A. 2006           64ip, 5.34 ERA

2006-09-05 18:15:48
120.   Bluebleeder87
It's only the 4th so i'm still hopefull
2006-09-05 18:16:09
121.   Marty
111 I love that picture.
2006-09-05 18:16:25
122.   Tommy Naccarato
That is ugly.....
2006-09-05 18:16:36
123.   Eric Enders
118 Somebody should put together a film clip of all the great falls. Tommy, Castro, and Bush Sr are a good start.
2006-09-05 18:19:38
124.   JoeyP
Will the Dodgers get draft picks for Mark Hendrickson?
2006-09-05 18:21:28
125.   xaphor
[123] Dole had himself a nasty tumble.

2006-09-05 18:21:35
126.   Bluebleeder87
just get this guy out of there please!!
2006-09-05 18:21:47
127.   StolenMonkey86
111- I copied that wrong and didn't get the letter G, and I got some japanese site
2006-09-05 18:22:18
128.   Andrew Shimmin
124- Hasn't he still got one more year before he's FA eligible?
2006-09-05 18:22:57
129.   Bluebleeder87

i had a pretty good nose dive on our DT's game in Dodger Stadium, i had one to many beers i'll leave it at that.

2006-09-05 18:23:22
130.   Bob Timmermann
The White Sox lost to the Red Sox 1-0 and were shut out by the dynamic duo of Kason Gabbard and Mike Timlin.

The Giants have already lost 3-0. They were shut out by Bronson Arroyo of the Reds.

2006-09-05 18:24:41
131.   gpellamjr
128 You're just saying that to make me mad.
2006-09-05 18:25:25
132.   xaphor
That was a heck of a throw by Kemp.
2006-09-05 18:25:28
133.   trainwreck
Gunned em down!

In the good way.

2006-09-05 18:25:34
134.   Bluebleeder87
2006-09-05 18:25:56
135.   50 years a Dodger Fan
Good Lord! 5 runs and he's still in there? Did Little have a heart attack or suddenly get Altimers? Or is he try to make Colletti look as bad as he really is? Someone should put Hendrickson out of his misery. If he were a horse, they'd shoot him.
2006-09-05 18:26:11
136.   JoeyP
Matt Kemp!
2006-09-05 18:26:19
137.   King of the Hobos
128 I think it's 2, but I know he's arbitration eligible this year. He'll probably be non-tendered, but Ned may want to give him another chance next year.

Speaking of Hendrickson, why not include his fall on the film?

2006-09-05 18:26:44
138.   Bluebleeder87
No bounce ethier. WOW Great throw, see stuff like that i love!!
2006-09-05 18:27:04
139.   Icaros
Hey, Disabled List. I loved your game notes in 26. Thanks.
2006-09-05 18:37:49
140.   Mark Joseph
Stults' first ML pitch--strike to Prince Fielder.
2006-09-05 18:40:10
141.   Bluebleeder87

it was also his 1st walk

2006-09-05 18:40:48
142.   Bluebleeder87
1st DP from Stults
2006-09-05 18:41:56
143.   Bluebleeder87
1st dinger from Stults
2006-09-05 18:41:56
144.   Mark Joseph
Stults has a very high rate of inducing DPs, although admittedly in a small sample size. Of course, his K-BB ratio isn't too good. Neither is his rate of HR allowed.
2006-09-05 18:43:00
145.   Bluebleeder87

well atleast he gave up his 1st dinger quick.

2006-09-05 18:43:10
146.   Marty
Corey Hart is an animal.

At least against these two pitchers.

2006-09-05 18:43:39
147.   StolenMonkey86
Stults plays defense. Good for him.
2006-09-05 18:44:07
148.   King of the Hobos
Stults had allowed 10 homers in 153 IP in the PCL. I'd just blame that on Hart and see if Stults can improve in his next few innings.
2006-09-05 18:45:26
149.   trainwreck
Nip Tuck starts up again tonight fellas. I can't wait.
2006-09-05 18:47:16
150.   Mark Joseph
Since Rick Monday can't remember, I'll remind him. His first game was Sept. 3, 1966. He went 0-3 with 2 Ks against Jim Lonborg, who pitched a 2-hit shutout and beat KC 7-0.

Bob: whenever I look up a game on Retrosheet (for example, the one I just referred to), the URL showing is just
But I notice that when you refer to a game it has a longer URL that takes you directly to the box score and PBP for that game. What is the difference?

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2006-09-05 18:48:05
151.   StolenMonkey86
Hendy's game score: 33
2006-09-05 18:49:37
152.   CanuckDodger
There is nothing wrong with Stults' HR rate, especially in the hitter-friendly PCL. By contrast, D. J. Houlton gave up something like 25 homers in about the same number of innings as Stults.

What was the velocity on Stults's fastball, anyone? How did his other pitches loook?

2006-09-05 18:49:38
153.   Bluebleeder87
Hendy's days as a starter are over. i hope.
2006-09-05 18:49:38
154.   Bluebleeder87
Hendy's days as a starter are over. i hope.
2006-09-05 18:50:29
155.   xaphor
[150] You are in a frame, right click in the frame with the box score and select something along the lines of view this frame only.
2006-09-05 18:50:32
156.   Bluebleeder87
sorry for 154.
2006-09-05 18:52:10
157.   Bluebleeder87
well Stults debue is not worth writing home about.
2006-09-05 18:52:18
158.   King of the Hobos
152 His fastball seems to be 89-91, or at least the ones I noticed were about that fast.

150 Right-click on BOX+PBP for the game, then select properties. The URL is there.

2006-09-05 18:54:50
159.   Gagne55
Mark Hendrickson is teh suck.
2006-09-05 18:55:02
160.   MMSMikey
what are nomar and kent doing up there? seriously. davis is throwing 82 mpg poo-balls and they cant touch him.
2006-09-05 18:55:04
161.   Gagne55
Mark Hendrickson is teh suck.
2006-09-05 18:56:03
162.   Bluebleeder87
i still have hope blue crew
2006-09-05 18:57:16
163.   Bluebleeder87

i'm o.k. with them lossing today, but if the lose to the brewers tomorrow.....

2006-09-05 18:58:01
164.   Mark Joseph
155, 158

Thanks; that was it.

Two other interesting things about that game: One, Sal Bando also made his major-league debut, and batted right after Monday. Second, in the first inning, Catfish Hunter intentionally walked Tony Conigliaro with men on 1st and 3rd and one out! Shades of Barry Bonds.

2006-09-05 18:58:55
165.   Bluebleeder87
i wanna be the mexican chorizo!!
2006-09-05 19:06:05
166.   MMSMikey
is everyone in favor of letting nomar walk and giving loney his shot next season? it has to be done.
2006-09-05 19:09:34
167.   Bluebleeder87

i'm in favor of letting go of Selig, & the Joke that are the owners letting this guy be the "commish" yeah were that stupid mlb

2006-09-05 19:11:03
168.   MMSMikey
selig, huh?
2006-09-05 19:14:14
169.   Bluebleeder87

name one good thing "Selig" has brote to the game?

ps he looks like an alien!!

2006-09-05 19:18:29
170.   MMSMikey
who cares, what does that have to do with nomar and loney? and the wild card was good for the game.
2006-09-05 19:21:07
171.   Bluebleeder87

i for one don't agree with the wild card my friend, let alone his daughter owning the Brewers.

ps i don't know if the Daughter still "owns" the brewers but give me a break.. i can rant about that for ever.owners included!!!!!!

2006-09-05 19:22:08
172.   Bob Timmermann
OK, everybody.

Just step back from the computers.

Take a deep breath.

Go watch something else on TV.

2006-09-05 19:24:10
173.   King of the Hobos
171 The Seligs are no longer majority owners of the Brewers.
2006-09-05 19:24:44
174.   Bluebleeder87

i think you're right Bob, i'm sorry i just... well you know....

2006-09-05 19:26:26
175.   King of the Hobos
Batting in the 9th: Repko, Martinez, Diaz, and then Robles if anyone gets on. That seems like the 1 through 4 spots in the lineup last year.
2006-09-05 19:28:16
176.   Gen3Blue
I think we have to realize that his team is a mix of talented young guys and vets who have no way been molded into a team yet.
When they do well it is good, but remember---would you want to be in the playy-offs with these starters? We don't even have Loney, Kemp, and Laroche integrated into the team yet!
This will take a year or more; but it will be worth it. A few years from now we should be great and this is the way it has been planned.
2006-09-05 19:28:34
177.   Bluebleeder87
lossing to a realy bad team might wake us up as a team.
2006-09-05 19:29:40
178.   xaphor
Poor Eric. Damn us and our hopeless optimism. Well, Kemp's throw was nice.
2006-09-05 19:32:00
179.   Bluebleeder87


2006-09-05 19:32:40
180.   Daniel Zappala
Bluebleeder -- I don't mean to be harsh, but you might think about adding something meaningful when you post a comment.
2006-09-05 19:33:28
181.   Bluebleeder87
we're still in 1st place.
2006-09-05 19:34:12
182.   Bluebleeder87

i'm sorry Daniel, i just post what i feel i know what you mean though.

2006-09-05 19:34:37
183.   Bob Timmermann
A 10 RBI game for Corey Hart would have been cool.
2006-09-05 19:39:01
184.   Bluebleeder87
Tommy Lasorda would have had a fit lossing against a team like the Brewers.
2006-09-05 19:39:23
185.   trainwreck
We just ran into the pride of Northgate High School on the mound and some guy who wears his sunglasses at night.

Nothing you can do about that.

2006-09-05 19:40:08
186.   xaphor
That makes for two complete game shut outs on the day.
2006-09-05 19:40:12
187.   Daniel Zappala
I think the main question for this game is why Doug Davis was able to throw a complete game shutout. Are the Dodgers that bad against lefties?
2006-09-05 19:42:27
188.   Bob Timmermann
Five shutouts overall tonight and the Yankees have been shut out after 7 innings in Kansas City.

Presumably, the Yankees won't score 10 runs in the 8th again tonight.

Maybe just seven.

2006-09-05 19:42:35
189.   Daniel Zappala
Hmm, the Dodgers are OPSing 846 against lefties, 764 against righties. That can't be it.
2006-09-05 19:44:07
190.   Daniel Zappala
Bob, there's also no score in that Angels game through 2 innings. The Angels are always a threat to be shut out.
2006-09-05 19:44:52
191.   Bob Timmermann
I believe I can describe this in the words that a doctor of mine used to describe why my left eye didn't seem to follow objects correctly. I was given a battery of tests inside and out.

The official diagnosis:

It was just one of those things that happens.

2006-09-05 19:46:58
192.   Bob Timmermann
The Rockies haven't scored yet either and trail San Diego 1-0 and Oakland is down 1-0.

Shutouts for everybody!

I'm wondering how the White Sox couldn't score off of Kason Gabbard.

2006-09-05 19:47:56
193.   grandcosmo
191. I'd get a second opinion.
2006-09-05 19:48:19
194.   xaphor
SD up by 2 now, top of the third.
2006-09-05 19:49:14
195.   Bluebleeder87
i'm cool with the lose today but tomorrow will be a different story.

ps being swept against the brewers!

2006-09-05 19:49:57
196.   Bob Timmermann

I'm afraid to think of what else they would check. It's not reassuring to go to a medical lab with an order and have the technician say "Wow, what the heck do they think you have?"

Besides, my eye doesn't have that problem that anymore.

2006-09-05 19:56:03
197.   Bob Timmermann
The Rockies will not be shut out tonight.
2006-09-05 19:56:10
198.   xaphor
Tie game in SD. Atkins hits it out with Helton aboard.
2006-09-05 19:57:48
199.   Daniel Zappala
1/2 the shutout possibilities are up in smoke in Anaheim.
2006-09-05 19:58:19
200.   Andrew Shimmin
Bob's Lucky Day: back to back to back to back episodes of According to Jim, starting soon!
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2006-09-05 20:06:48
201.   xaphor
Check out the video clip of Damion Easley's outfielder assisted homer:

2006-09-05 20:07:51
202.   King of the Hobos
2 of the 3 AAA/AA games were shutouts tonight. The third is currently 1-1 in the 10th. There aren't as many shutouts in the lower minors, but Ogden shut out Idaho Falls, giving them a 1 game lead over Idaho Falls for a playoff spot.
2006-09-05 20:14:03
203.   Nagman
Possibly the worst game of the season. Can anybody remember a more uninspired, flatter Dodger performance this season? To make it worse, it's in the heat of a pennant race, the day after a loss (2 of 'em to be exact), against a mediocre (at best) team.

The bottom of the 8th pretty much summed it up. I don't know if Ethier lost it in the lights, but the way it looked pretty much fit the rest of the way the Dodgers looked in the field and at the plate. It matched the effort on Hamulack's throw, Saenz's indifference to make a play most first baseman make, and Martinez's misplay, and it all made for one ugly inning of one ugly game. Granted the game was way over but sheesh, play ball.

Apparently Furcal not sliding in the first inning set the tone for a sleepwalk.

2006-09-05 20:34:30
204.   dzzrtRatt
I didn't see the game -- I'm in another city.

Perhaps the Dodgers see Hendrickson on the mound and figure, eh, we lose no matter what, don't sweat it.

Good teams lose. I bet the Brewers have beaten the Mets. The Devil Rays have won games against first place team.

We aren't a mighty juggernaut. We're a good team, but not complete yet. Not only does having Hendrickson hurt, the lack of HR power also sometimes bites.

2006-09-05 20:42:51
205.   Greg Brock
Wow, looks like missed a real peach of a baseball game.

The real problem with Hendricskson is his execution.

It needs to happen.

2006-09-05 20:45:12
206.   Greg Brock
That's right, I'm so upset that I'm not going to spell his name properly.
2006-09-05 20:50:25
207.   capdodger
Heh... I saw the score and my first thought was, "Why did the Dodgers forfeit the game?"
2006-09-05 21:04:19
208.   Bob Timmermann
The Royals shut out the Yankees tonight.
2006-09-05 21:05:57
209.   Gagne55
207 At least a forfit would have sparred Dodger fans from having to see tonight's performence. Fugly. :-!
2006-09-05 21:07:39
210.   Gagne55
The Dodgers are an atrocious road team. At least the Cubs should be beatable. Looks like they'll have to somehow pull out a win against the Pads when they play 'em. :-/
2006-09-05 21:24:38
211.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers are 29-38 on the road. If that's atrocious, then what do you make of:

Tampa Bay, 19-50 on the road
Baltimore, 25-42 on the road
Kansas City, 20-49
Seattle, 27-42
Washington, 25-45
Milwaukee, 23-46
Pittsburgh, 20-50

Meanwhile, the Padres and Phillies have overall winning records, but have losing records at home.

2006-09-05 21:34:59
212.   Eric Enders
211 Those are all pretty atrocious if you ask me.

Is the home team winning a higher than usual percentage of MLB games this year?

2006-09-05 21:35:00
213.   Greg Brock
The Red Sox, Blue Jays, Cardinals, Astros and Giants are all at least five games under .500 on the road.
2006-09-05 21:37:51
214.   Xeifrank
wow, another pretty bad loss and to top things off the Pads are up 5-3 late against the woeful Rockies. Anyone know anything about this new drug law in CA? I went to the drug store to buy some cough medicine and tylenol and the cashier said there was some new law and I could only buy one of the two. I just stood in a different line to buy the 2nd item, but seems like an odd law even if bad guys are using over the counter meds to produce meth. vr, Xei
2006-09-05 21:38:28
215.   Bob Timmermann
There are so many atrocities going on with road records, that we're going to have to talk to the boys at The Hague about getting some court time.
2006-09-05 21:40:06
216.   Eric Enders
The Hague -- is that what they're calling the SF ballpark now?
2006-09-05 21:54:33
217.   Bob Timmermann
I've been outside the International Court of Justice in The Hague. But it wasn't open at the time.

I mainly went to The Hague to add it to my list of places where "The" is part of the name.

Right now it consists of "The Hague" and "The Bronx". In Berkeley, I lived on "The Alameda".

I have not been to "The Dalles" in Oregon.

2006-09-05 21:56:54
218.   Greg Brock
Man, I can't get over that parent who leveled the kid at the Pop Warner game.

His tackling is horrible. You always shoot for the hips, not the shoulders.

What a horrible role model for would be tacklers.

2006-09-05 22:02:59
219.   Daniel Zappala
I have been to The Dalles and you aren't missing much.
2006-09-05 22:05:28
220.   Bob Timmermann
Padres win 5-4.
2006-09-05 22:07:36
221.   Bob Timmermann
Google is taking over The Dalles isn't it? They are building some special supercomputing facility there aren't they?
2006-09-06 00:21:39
222.   StolenMonkey86
just looked at the game score file, and I saw something very alarming in Aaron Sele. He's flat out tanking. He really does have a rather definite downward trend, with a nice upswing. Overall, though, he's a first half pitcher.
2006-09-06 00:27:44
223.   xaphor
[217] I would recommend "The Duomo".

It seems most foreign places get such treatment (ie. "The Vatican", "The Parthenon", etc.).

And it turns out that after today's game I'm feeling religious.

2006-09-06 01:08:37
224.   Jose Habib
Never been to the Haight, Bob?
2006-09-06 07:44:02
225.   Bumsrap
Does Mr. Google like to sail board or does he like long commutes?

Too bad Repko wasn't playing and Lofton sitting last night. The Dodgers are going to win with youth and fade with aged.

2006-09-06 08:23:09
226.   Eric Enders
Speaking of long commutes, I just got a phone call out of the blue offering me tickets to tomorrow's game... looks like I'll be making the long drive to Shea to see Penny implode.
2006-09-06 08:26:07
227.   Eric Enders
Bob, you forgot all the roadways in Southern California. I'm sure you've been on most of them.

The Hague is huge, though, since it counts double. (The Netherlands)

2006-09-06 08:40:57
228.   Bob Timmermann
I'm thinking of cities most of the time with "The" as an integral part of the name.

Maybe I'll go to all the cities in California with "El", "La", or "Los" in the name.

2006-09-06 08:45:27
229.   Penarol1916
228. I guess that would eliminate THE Ohio State University from the list then.
2006-09-06 08:48:09
230.   Bob Timmermann
I would rather just go to An Ohio State University.
2006-09-06 08:48:25
231.   underdog
Did anyone read the new interview with Jeff Kent on the Times' Dodgers blog?

Pretty interesting actually.
He even says (and sounds like he had to grit his teeth and hold his nose while he said it) that Bonds was the greatest player he's ever seen play.

Also says if he was as on the fence as Brett Favre obviously was about coming back, he'd retire.

2006-09-06 08:52:00
232.   underdog
I've always been partial to The Oxnard, myself.
2006-09-06 09:05:42
233.   Nagman
(I'll preface this by saying I'm not a Drew basher...)

The fact that he is sitting again today (according to the LA Times) bothers me. Does resting him two days in a row make any sense? Yes, the Dodgers are facing left-handers but the Mets are going to start two lefties as well. We've gotten to September with him relatively healthy and it also seems like his bat was starting to heat up a bit, not to mention the small fact that the Dodgers are in the middle of a pennant race.

I'd rather have him out there facing Capuano and Glavine than Kemp or Repko or Lugo.

I think it's great how Grady has handled Drew and I can understand a day off but at this point in the season in a tight race, perhaps not as many days off and especially not two consecutive games.

2006-09-06 09:20:14
234.   Gen3Blue
Had a chuckle at the MLB Trade Rumours site.
They mention as a long shot the possibility of B. Bonds going to the Dodgers to replace Nomar at first base for a year. Long shot doesn't begin to describe the probability.
2006-09-06 09:27:08
235.   Gen3Blue
And Bob, let me know it you ever visit "The" Berkshires.
2006-09-06 09:30:10
236.   SVbeagador

That is worth a good laugh. Bonds needs to go to the AL if he leaves the Hated Ones.

2006-09-06 09:43:36
237.   Bob Timmermann
I've got the boys at the Board of Geographic Names trying to figure out how I can generate a list of all the place names in the U.S. that start with "The". I don't think their database can handle it.
2006-09-06 09:43:57
238.   gibsonhobbs88
207, 209 - That was my first thought. I was busy and engaged last night and fortunately I missed this non-game. I came home and saw the score and expected a big story on Baseball Tonight about the Dodgers forfeiting the game for some bizarre reason. I know Penny wasn't scheduled so he couldn't be the reason. Then I saw the low-lights and I thought to myself, "You should have forfeited, not shown up if they are going to play like that"! I hope Lowe can stop the bleeding tonight. We can lose all of our 4 game lead we had built up in just 4 days tonight before we even arrive at Shea. This is the nightmare of a road trip becoming a very real reality!
2006-09-06 09:46:32
239.   Bob Timmermann
Is a dream a lie that don't come true or is it something worse?
2006-09-06 09:53:05
240.   Sam DC
2-0 Giants.
2006-09-06 09:58:45
241.   Eric Enders
239 No, it's just a lie.

Just go down to the courthouse. The judge'll put it all to rest.

2006-09-06 10:01:21
242.   gibsonhobbs88
239 - All I know is looking at the schedule a couple weeks ago and seeing this road trip, I was hoping they can take 2 of 3 from the Brewers and Cubs and split with the Mets or even if they lost 3 of 4, they could overall still have a .500 road trip. Starting the trip off with two lackluster losses in Milwaukee has me fearing the worst, a 2-8 or 1-9 trip that will send the Padres rocketing ahead of us into first and the Blue spiral down even out of the wild card lead. This is the time Lowe and Penny need to right the ship, give us 6-7 strong innings and hope our bats revive to win a couple games here this week.
I guess if a dream does not come true, then it is just your subconscious showing you your fears and hopes come to life in your nightmares and dreams.
2006-09-06 10:42:19
243.   Bob Timmermann
Remember, it's the NL West. Every team that rockets, tends to crash and burn. The Padres still have a road trip to St. Louis and finish the season in Arizona, where they are 20-52 alltime.
2006-09-06 10:58:38
244.   King of the Hobos
Cities are one thing, but how many countries have "the" in their name? Is The Gambia (or Republic of The Gambia) the only one?
2006-09-06 11:02:15
245.   Bob Timmermann
The Bahamas is the other.

You can also make a case for El Salvador.

2006-09-06 11:02:48
246.   50 years a Dodger Fan
234 Have you forgotten who our GM is?
2006-09-06 11:12:54
247.   Penarol1916
244. Uruguay could count then as it's name is The Republic East of The Uruguay and in Spanish is referred to as El Uruguay.
2006-09-06 11:14:24
248.   Bob Timmermann
What's the deal with those Latin American countries and the articles in the name?

There's also "El Peru" and "La Argentina".

2006-09-06 11:15:00
249.   Bob Timmermann
Oh, and the people in Ukraine do not want their country called "The Ukraine."
2006-09-06 11:15:52
250.   Eric Enders
244, see 227
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2006-09-06 11:19:37
251.   Sam DC
From Boswell's chat:

16th & K, N.W.: I have never been a fan of these new-age young "kids" becoming GM's with absolutely no experience in baseball. I guess they remind me all too well of McNamara's "Whiz Kids" who mismanaged the Vietnam War. Having said that, I don't think that I am being overly harsh in saying that Theo Epstein is in totally over his head. He overestimated the strength of his pitching when he gave up Arroyo. He grossly overestimated Coco Crisp and vast underestimated Johnny Damon. He completely goofed when he didn't do something before the trade deadline, thus ceding the season to the Yankees, who did get two valuable players. These amateur followers of Billy Beane have been the ruination of more the one team in MLB. Do you agree that Theo Epstein should be fired, the sooner the better?

Tom Boswell: Here we have what may be the perfect post to capture the Red Sox Nation mentality. It's unique, passionate but also truly bizarre. The argurment is subtle and probably correct on many points, but the object of the anger is the only GM to oversee a Red Sox world champion in 86 years. Oh, and McNamara still hasn't been forgiven. My wife is from New England so I see up close this every summer. It's fascinating.

So, who is DePo? McGeorge Bundy?

2006-09-06 11:19:43
252.   Bob Timmermann
That country goes by "Netherlands". It's full name in English is "Kingdom of the Netherlands", and in Dutch it's "Koninkrijk der Nederlanden"

The official short form names of the country are: Netherlands (in English) and Nederland (in Dutch).

2006-09-06 11:20:45
253.   Bob Timmermann

Jim Tracy starring as General William Westmoreland!

2006-09-06 11:21:38
254.   Penarol1916
248. That's a slightly different case with Argentina and Peru, as their official names don't have articles in them, Argentina is just Republica Argentina, thus the articles in these cases just exist in order to provide a gender to the name of the country, since all nouns have to have a gender in Spanish. Uruguay is different as it is literally called El Uruguay in official documents.
2006-09-06 11:21:46
255.   Bob Timmermann
Bill Plaschke as William Fulbright!
2006-09-06 11:22:49
256.   Sam DC
Jon Weisman as Walter Cronkite.
2006-09-06 11:23:51
257.   Bob Timmermann
Don't you remember the day last year, Jon got up, took off his glasses, looked into the camera and told us that the NL West in 2005 was unwinnable?
2006-09-06 11:24:56
258.   Sam DC
Ned Colletti as Gerald Ford?
2006-09-06 11:26:02
259.   Penarol1916
251. If you want to use this analogy, then DePodesta is probably McNamara and Beane is Tex Thornton, the original head of the Whiz Kids and the guy who brought them all together. McNamara was thought of as the smartest of all of the Whiz Kids and called the Human Computer.
2006-09-06 11:26:16
260.   Gen3Blue
246 I don't know how it slipped my mind, but I not happy now that I'm reminded:)
2006-09-06 11:27:01
261.   Sam DC
257 I'll admit, I was thinking more that we really knew it was over when Jim Tracy lost Weisman.
2006-09-06 11:28:30
262.   Sam DC
259 Yeah, the whole thing doesn't really work. And I sure like DePodesta too much to go down your more accurate road!
2006-09-06 11:28:47
263.   popup
253 Actually Bob I would pick Tim Johnson for that role.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-09-06 11:30:37
264.   Gen3Blue
Tommy Lasorda as Henri Kissinger!
2006-09-06 11:31:53
265.   Penarol1916
262. I think you could get it is work and McNamara was very successful as head of Ford Motors. The one you don't want to be compared to is Reith, I think that will eventually be Ricciardi.
2006-09-06 11:32:15
266.   Bob Timmermann
We don't have a George Ball or Dean Rusk in our tableau.

Or even an LBJ.

2006-09-06 11:38:29
267.   popup
266 Bill James for President

Stan from Tacoma

2006-09-06 11:40:35
268.   Sam DC
More Boswell:

Which is it Tom?: Last week you said:

Soriano is gone: I can't imagine him staying. This can't be any fun for him and next year doen't look much better. A contender will say, "Here's a no-trade, $75 million, 5-year contract. Make a home with us." How could he resist? Tom Boswell: He can't. And he won't.

Now you say don't give up on him yet...

Tom Boswell: I've been doing a little more digging. Neither New York team looks interested. There's no reason for the Red Sox to be interested. Who else, with mega-big money, is interested enough in Soriano to drive the price beyond the Nats appetite for spending? A lot of people in baseball, after August 1st, said, "He's gone. Book it." Including me. But as the dust has settled the Nats emerge as one of the logical contenders. Still, it's probably less than even money for him to resign. I'd make the Angels the front-runner.

2006-09-06 11:42:10
269.   Bob Timmermann
Mickey Hatcher couldn't wait to get his hand on another hacker like Soriano? He would be able to continue his unique style of non-coaching as a batting coach.
2006-09-06 11:44:29
270.   Sam DC
Nationals down 3-1 on a Spezio 3-run HR.
2006-09-06 11:45:50
271.   Bob Timmermann
I thought the Nats were living on borrowed time there.
2006-09-06 11:57:13
272.   Sam DC
Boswell on Nationals call up Chris Booker, who apparently throws a forkball: "sStick a fort in him."


3-2 now at RFK, Nationals have the bases loaded and nobody out.

And Nook Logan is up to bat!

2006-09-06 12:00:18
273.   popup
Reds are down a run in the 8th.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-09-06 12:01:00
274.   Sam DC
Run scoring singles by Brian Schneider and Alfonso Soriano send Carpenter to the showers. 5-3 Nationals.

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