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September 8 Game Chat
2006-09-08 15:00
by Jon Weisman
Comments (498)
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2006-09-08 15:10:27
1.   Bob Timmermann
Let's all show some hustle here today people!
2006-09-08 15:13:37
2.   blue22
1 - You mean some "list", right? Wouldn't want to get caught listless again.
2006-09-08 15:17:31
3.   Bob Timmermann
Checking my handy OED online, "listless" got its meaning back in the 15th century when "list" meant "pleasure".
2006-09-08 15:19:45
4.   Sam DC
No wonder those listservs are so popular.
2006-09-08 15:20:18
5.   confucius
Then every loss must be listless.
2006-09-08 15:21:30
6.   Bob Timmermann
Three possible good events for the Dodgers today:

1) Dodgers win
2) Padres lose
3) Phillies lose
4) Nationals lose and Frank Robinson is ejected and forced to sit in the humidor.

OK, the last one was just for me.

2006-09-08 15:22:52
7.   Bob Timmermann
[f. LIST n.4 + -LESS. Cf. the collateral form LUSTLESS, which occurs in the sense of 'listless' (tr. L. deses) as early as 1398.]

Of persons, their actions, etc.: a. Destitute of relish or inclination for some specified object or pursuit; const. of (obs.). b. Characterized by unwillingness to move, act, or make any exertion; marked by languid indifference as to what goes on around one, or as to what one has to do.

2006-09-08 15:25:20
8.   popup
3 So let's have less list would not be the best way to combat the Dodgers seeming lethargy.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-09-08 15:29:16
9.   popup
6 For this Dodger fan I would say:

1. Dodgers win
2. Giants lose
3. Frank Robinson empties the humidor of baseballs so he can store his cigars there.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-09-08 15:33:07
10.   confucius
Mine would be:

1. Dodgers win
2. Angels lose
3. Mr. Rick Monday confesses to killing JonBenet Ramsey and I never have to hear his voice again.

2006-09-08 15:33:27
11.   gpellamjr
Alright guys, game's on TV in Columbus today, so I won't be following along with you all. But let's all stay listful and maybe the Dodgers will win one in NY!
2006-09-08 15:33:50
12.   Nagman
Yes, I'm slowly warming up to the "Giants lose" event. The Padres could just make them go away, the Phils and Marlins could fade, and it would be 1996 all over again, where the only thing at stake is whether we face the Mets or the Cardinals.
2006-09-08 15:34:21
13.   Bob Timmermann
"Lethargy" comes from a Greek word that meant "forgetful".
2006-09-08 15:35:07
14.   Bob Timmermann
I have no desire to see 1996 again.
2006-09-08 15:37:03
15.   Bob Timmermann
The pitchers that Phil Rosenthal mentions the Dodgers being interested in picking up are Josh Fogg or Byung-Hyun Kim.
2006-09-08 15:39:09
16.   Bob Timmermann
I should have said Ken Rosenthal.
2006-09-08 15:41:46
17.   Bluebleeder87
i guess Jon desided not to treat us with nice reads like he use too before a game, oh well i still love getting my dodger fix from DT.
2006-09-08 15:47:01
18.   Nagman
14 You didn't enjoy going into the last weekend of the season knowing the Dodgers can get swept by the Padres and still back in to the playoffs? And having it actually happen? Didn't we get swept in the playoffs as well? Nice finish to the season.

Maybe you're right.

2006-09-08 15:47:51
19.   JoeyP
I think the only scenario that would have both the Phils/Marlins fading would be the Marlins beating the Phils (7 of 10) but then also losing to the Mets (6 of 7). That might knock each team out.

The Phillies have a real easy schedule to finish up the year though. I dont see them fading unless the Marlins do in fact knock them out.

2006-09-08 15:48:22
20.   King of the Hobos
Scott Elbert is making the start for game 2 in the first round of the Southern League playoffs. The Suns only lost 4-3 yesterday, but were outhit 12-5.
2006-09-08 15:51:03
21.   Bob Timmermann
The Phillies also play four games against Houston (3 in Houston, 1 in Philly) and three at Atlanta, and 3 each at home against Wash and Chicago.
2006-09-08 15:58:55
22.   Bluebleeder87
i really hope Kou steps it up today.
2006-09-08 16:00:57
23.   Bluebleeder87
i'm thinking the Pads are gonna be watching this game.
2006-09-08 16:01:04
24.   ToyCannon
I'm very listless whenever the Dodgers are on TV as I make my soy shake and head for the couch with my wife wondering why she married this listless fool.
2006-09-08 16:05:35
25.   Jon Weisman
17 - I've already directly explained to you twice why I'm posting less last week and this. Could you let it go? Thanks.
2006-09-08 16:06:42
26.   sanchez101
22. I agree

... but, I'd also like to temper any kind of gross generalizations about Kuo based on his performance today. In 1955 the Dodgers had two awesome rookie lefthanders. In Karl Spooner's first start he pitched a shutout and set a record with 15 K's; Campanella said he was the best young pitcher he ever saw. Sandy Koufax lasted 4 2/3 innings and gave up 8 walks in his first start.

Kuo will be the same pitcher tomorrow as he is today, regardless of how he pitches: an potentially good/potentially bad young pitcher.

All I ask is that he doesn't get injured.

2006-09-08 16:06:57
27.   Bluebleeder87
24

what's going on ToyCannon, how dose Soy milk taste? i see alot of people drnking that tuff.

2006-09-08 16:07:16
28.   natepurcell
To the person that has Addai in the DT fantasy league...lets talk trade!
2006-09-08 16:07:57
29.   Bluebleeder87
25

easy tiger. :o)

2006-09-08 16:08:08
30.   sanchez101
26. All I ask is that Kuo doesn't get injured. I think it's worth saying twice.
2006-09-08 16:09:19
31.   Bluebleeder87
26

when did he last pitch?

2006-09-08 16:09:57
32.   Travis
28 You rang?

Fred "12 Games" Taylor won't be enough.

2006-09-08 16:10:17
33.   sanchez101
31.
???

Nate might know, Im too lazy to check the MiLB game logs.

2006-09-08 16:10:38
34.   Bluebleeder87
well here we go were the ball lands nobody knows.
2006-09-08 16:11:58
35.   natepurcell
32

i know. i just wanted to start the talks!

2006-09-08 16:12:08
36.   Bluebleeder87
Nice start from Furcal.
2006-09-08 16:13:22
37.   Buffalo Jones
isn't the game on ESPN tonight? I am wondering because I am watching it on mlbtv here at work and usually they blackout ESPN games.
2006-09-08 16:14:43
38.   Bluebleeder87
nice start from Lofton.
2006-09-08 16:14:49
39.   Jon Weisman
29 - No, seriously, I'm not amused.
2006-09-08 16:15:38
40.   sanchez101
31. Kuo's last start was on the 27th of August. 5IP 5K's 1W 1HR, and he somehow pitched those 5 innings using only 44 pitches (28 strikes).
2006-09-08 16:16:22
41.   Bluebleeder87
37

ESPN is dead to me.

2006-09-08 16:16:51
42.   Gen3Blue
Anderson in left field? Huh.
2006-09-08 16:17:23
43.   Bluebleeder87
39

i was joking geez.

2006-09-08 16:18:14
44.   Bluebleeder87
Nomar's swings look kind of tired.IMO.
2006-09-08 16:18:52
45.   Travis
35 Consider them started. A counter-offer has been made.
2006-09-08 16:18:54
46.   overkill94
Is it too much to ask to get just one clutch hit? Heck, I'll settle for a scoring fly ball.
2006-09-08 16:19:30
47.   Bluebleeder87
I'd send Nomar on a hit & run.
2006-09-08 16:19:58
48.   overkill94
SWING THE FREAKIN BAT!!!
2006-09-08 16:20:22
49.   sanchez101
46. Nomar did get a clutch hit, only Reyes made a great play.
2006-09-08 16:20:32
50.   Bluebleeder87
i wont say anything about that at bat from Drew.
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2006-09-08 16:21:03
51.   Linkmeister
Why on earth is this game blacked out for ESPN viewers in Hawai'i? Fer cryin' out loud, people, don't you recognize that we're 2,500 miles away from LA?
2006-09-08 16:21:44
52.   jasonungar05
I like JD Drew but think he is the worst possible choice for a number 4 hitter. It drives me crazy. Kent belongs there. Striking out looking with a RISP and 1 out it criminal to me.
2006-09-08 16:22:26
53.   Bluebleeder87
Deliver for us Anderson.
2006-09-08 16:22:28
54.   overkill94
Alright Marlon, time to win over some new fans.
2006-09-08 16:23:24
55.   Bluebleeder87
52

agreed so many things he could have done there, productive out & so forth.

2006-09-08 16:23:47
56.   sanchez101
why is Marlon Anderson hitting in front of Betemit (.305/.365/.561 vs RHP)?
2006-09-08 16:24:04
57.   overkill94
Finally we catch a break!
2006-09-08 16:24:09
58.   sanchez101
thank you david wright
2006-09-08 16:24:11
59.   Bluebleeder87
thank you David Wright.
2006-09-08 16:24:18
60.   bigcpa
Clutch ab by Anderson!
2006-09-08 16:24:29
61.   King of the Hobos
All it took for the Dodgers to score was a clutch error.
2006-09-08 16:24:57
62.   Bluebleeder87
58

i like the way you think.

2006-09-08 16:25:10
63.   confucius
A break! They caught a break!!!
2006-09-08 16:25:25
64.   50 years a Dodger Fan
First inning, bases loaded, two outs; Do we have Ethier up? No. Kemp? No. Betemit? No. Martin? No. It's Anderson. Boys, we got ourselves another great manager.
2006-09-08 16:25:49
65.   overkill94
That throw wasn't all that bad, I think Nomar would have snagged it. Carlos being so big and all, he doesn't move so quick though.
2006-09-08 16:26:10
66.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Had the Dodgers come away from that inning empty-handed, personal anguish would've ensued.
2006-09-08 16:26:35
67.   King of the Hobos
Elbert ran into some trouble for Jacksonville. The first batter had a hit before Elbert struck out Brignac. After a walk and a Ruggiano single, Elbert struck out the next 2 batters with the bases loaded, ultimately striking out the side and didn't allow a run.
2006-09-08 16:26:36
68.   overkill94
64 He's been great all year. His decisions lately have been a little questionable, but I'll give him a mulligan.
2006-09-08 16:26:38
69.   sanchez101
Reyes' great play saves the Mets a run, and Wright's boner costs them two ... who says defense doesn't matter?
2006-09-08 16:27:09
70.   Bluebleeder87
adrenaline works wonders for the body, let's hope Kuo has a nice dose of it.
2006-09-08 16:28:10
71.   confucius
52 I don't like JD Drew as a clean up hitter either but that pitch he struck out on was six inches off the outside of the plate. The pitch before was borderline on the inside.
2006-09-08 16:28:17
72.   JoeyP
Wright sort of choked.
That was an easy throw to make.
2006-09-08 16:28:46
73.   Rich84
What's Elbert's ETA to the majors? 2008?
2006-09-08 16:28:54
74.   Bluebleeder87
he's throwing nice an easy at 93 mph
2006-09-08 16:29:06
75.   Buffalo Jones
Has Kuo ever started a game in the Majors? I am sure this has been discussed, but I don't get on here as often as I'd like.
2006-09-08 16:29:24
76.   sanchez101
67. Thanks for the update, I have the fear that if I check the minor league box score before the games over, I'll jinx our prospects. I should be in an institution by the end of the decade, but if you could give us more updates on the Suns game it would be appreciated.
2006-09-08 16:29:39
77.   sanchez101
75.no
2006-09-08 16:29:50
78.   Bluebleeder87
73

i don't know, but i heard he throws even harder than Kuo.

2006-09-08 16:30:12
79.   overkill94
70 I hate to sound snarky, but that's the first time you've used "dose" in the correct manner. ;)
2006-09-08 16:30:34
80.   Buffalo Jones
77 thanks
2006-09-08 16:30:34
81.   Buffalo Jones
77 thanks
2006-09-08 16:30:41
82.   Bluebleeder87
Kuo is peaking at 94mph
2006-09-08 16:30:48
83.   Eric Enders
73 He's on the Billingsley track. Expect him to start next year at Vegas with perhaps a midseason callup, depending on (a) how well he pitches, and (b) how the Dodger rotation pitches.
2006-09-08 16:32:03
84.   Bluebleeder87
79

i have my moments.

2006-09-08 16:32:17
85.   Bluebleeder87
get out of there Reyes!!
2006-09-08 16:32:20
86.   overkill94
Looked safe, but nice job anyway Russ!
2006-09-08 16:32:24
87.   Paul Scott
82 Unfortunately he is also peaking at 6 inches off the plate.
2006-09-08 16:32:50
88.   sanchez101
Has anyone noticed how Lo Duca is having a very nice 2nd half because he's gotten some rest this season. Jim Tracy still hasn't figuered this out.

I'll take Russell Martin, though.

2006-09-08 16:33:33
89.   Bluebleeder87
that's our catcher there. & i'll also add that he's only been catching for 3 years, he's only gonna get better.
2006-09-08 16:33:37
90.   confucius
What an 'exciting' play by Reyes.
2006-09-08 16:33:40
91.   Eric Enders
Two-base error by DeWitt gets Elbert in trouble leading off the 2nd.

Danger! The first base umpire's name is Will Robinson.

2006-09-08 16:33:40
92.   Gen3Blue
Martin. see him,see him!
2006-09-08 16:34:44
93.   Bluebleeder87
87

don't be so negative bro, hey it's still early & he can get better as the game goes along.

2006-09-08 16:34:48
94.   natepurcell
kuo is actually throwing really hard. espn gun says 94-97
2006-09-08 16:34:53
95.   Rich84
Did they teach Kuo a difference between a ball and a strike in the minors? I'm not sure if he's figured out the distinction yet.
2006-09-08 16:35:41
96.   Paul Scott
3 batters, 2 walks. This looks sadly familiar.

Still, Kuo is by far our best option.

2006-09-08 16:35:42
97.   Bluebleeder87
wow Kuo just hit 96 MPH
2006-09-08 16:36:14
98.   Eric Enders
Another ball off DeWitt's glove, this one ruled an infield single.

I guess Blake owes Elbert a beer after the game. They've each been legal for only a couple weeks.

2006-09-08 16:37:05
99.   Bluebleeder87
94

What are those guys saying about Kuo though?

he is lefty & for a lefty throwing that hard...

2006-09-08 16:37:07
100.   JoeyP
Kuo's throwing really hard.
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2006-09-08 16:37:24
101.   Gen3Blue
If the past is a guide to the future, Martin could end up catching for the Mets. I hope it is no time soon.
2006-09-08 16:38:19
102.   bearlurker
Yikes, 20 pitches by Kuo, only 9 strikes.
2006-09-08 16:38:29
103.   Linkmeister
Sheesh. Gameday and you guys or ESPN2 and football. Miserable MLB blackout policy.

Or maybe I'll just go finish my pile of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books before they're due back at the library.

2006-09-08 16:39:06
104.   Eric Enders
Montgomery takes a 1-0 lead with a double off the center field fence.

On the other hand, all 4 outs recorded by Elbert have been strikeouts.

2006-09-08 16:40:12
105.   MMSMikey
can someone please tell wilson betemit not to swing at EVERY pitch.
2006-09-08 16:40:20
106.   sanchez101
Did anyone else catch this;

Steve Lyons: ...the Met's rely heavily on lefthanded hitters ... and of course, Delgado is a lefthand only hitter

Charlie Steiner: Shawn Green is the only Lefthand hitter in the lineup.

Steve Lyons: Cliff Floyd also hits lefhanded.

Im now convinced these guys arent even listening to each other

2006-09-08 16:40:50
107.   Eric Enders
Elbert has no longer gotten every out by strikeout. The fifth out was made by the batter who hit the double, when he passed the guy ahead of him on the basepaths.

Well, it is Double-A, I guess. Inning over, Suns trail 1-0.

2006-09-08 16:41:12
108.   jasonungar05
71 fair enough. It just happens alot. It makes no sense I agree but if he strikes out swinging it dosen't bother me as much.
2006-09-08 16:41:19
109.   Shotupthemiddle
Last three games- two runs.

First inning tonight- two runs.

Things are looking up.

2006-09-08 16:41:29
110.   Bluebleeder87
105

if i had his cellphone # i would tell 'em.

2006-09-08 16:42:28
111.   Bluebleeder87
109

i hope Kou's pitch count goes down this inning.

2006-09-08 16:42:47
112.   MMSMikey
farout
2006-09-08 16:42:50
113.   sanchez101
101. That'll be after the we sign the young superstar catcher, and LA native, Robert Stock, to replace Martin, ca. 2015
2006-09-08 16:43:19
114.   Jim Hitchcock
The game's on ESPN? You mean I actually get to watch one? Wow!
2006-09-08 16:44:14
115.   overkill94
That chick really looked like Eva Mendes
2006-09-08 16:44:24
116.   sanchez101
111. im only expecting Kuo to "go" 5 innings, max
2006-09-08 16:44:40
117.   Bluebleeder87
four pitches to David Wright.
2006-09-08 16:44:43
118.   Bob Timmermann
Jim,
Are you in the City of Carson or the City of Carson City?
2006-09-08 16:44:58
119.   blue22
101 - He has to go to Florida first. Maybe we'll get something good.
2006-09-08 16:45:37
120.   Bluebleeder87
97 MPH by Kou.
2006-09-08 16:45:50
121.   Paul Scott
Nice, finally.
2006-09-08 16:45:52
122.   Bob Timmermann
Ahh, karmic justice!
2006-09-08 16:46:10
123.   confucius
Green's out cue the two out music!
2006-09-08 16:46:37
124.   overkill94
That's more like it
2006-09-08 16:46:41
125.   Bluebleeder87
nice inning by Kou.
2006-09-08 16:47:07
126.   natepurcell
good job kuo.
2006-09-08 16:47:38
127.   Paul Scott
Much better inning. 3 balls, 7 strikes.
2006-09-08 16:48:01
128.   JoeyP
Shawn Green has no chance against Kuo.
2006-09-08 16:48:17
129.   Bluebleeder87
i'll be happy getting 5 out of Kou, but happy overload @ 7 innings.
2006-09-08 16:48:45
130.   Eric Enders
Jacksonville has a small rally going.

Hu's on first.

2006-09-08 16:49:11
131.   sanchez101
119. December 2015:

Dodgers trade 6-time allstar and World Series MVP, Russell Martin to the S.A. Marlins for 2-time MVP Jeremy Hermida.

The Dodgers also announced the signing of last year's MVP, FA catcher Robert Stock, to a 8 year $200m contract.

2006-09-08 16:49:22
132.   overkill94
What's on second?
2006-09-08 16:49:57
133.   Paul Scott
We had Maine on the ropes, then had a brainless inning, with Kuo putting in teh best PA. Let's hope we can get this back on track and give him at least the average 15 pitches.
2006-09-08 16:50:31
134.   Bluebleeder87
Nomar is tired, i swear those swings scream that out.
2006-09-08 16:50:32
135.   overkill94
Remember that inning where we worked the count, got a little lucky, and scored a couple runs? Those were good times...
2006-09-08 16:51:21
136.   natepurcell
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5948942

thoughts?!?!

2006-09-08 16:51:26
137.   Paul Scott
Nope, looks like our boys are intent on making sure Maine has a decent outing afterall. With a little patience he could have been easily forced out after 5. Oh well.
2006-09-08 16:51:54
138.   overkill94
Same pitch as the one in the 1st inning
2006-09-08 16:52:48
139.   overkill94
136 Bump Chester Taylor up on your draft sheets?
2006-09-08 16:52:59
140.   Jim Hitchcock
The latter, Bob...12 miles from Tahoe.

Camping is much better here than Carson, Ca.

Hey, anybody remember the refresh keystroke on stupid Internet Explorer...the toolbar has
vamoosed...

2006-09-08 16:53:21
141.   confucius
108 I think JD Drew should be a great number two hitter on a team that doesn't have two lead off hitters like the dodgers do.
2006-09-08 16:53:51
142.   Paul Scott
3 of the five batter put the ball in play on one pitch. One got lucky (as is about average). All were stupid.
2006-09-08 16:54:10
143.   natepurcell
139

I think taylor is going to be a sleeper anyways. but Mckinnie is developing into a stud and its better to get it out of the way now and make him happy then to risk having another ugly offseason.

2006-09-08 16:54:29
144.   Bluebleeder87
i'd baby Kuo though, 100 pitches max.
2006-09-08 16:54:49
145.   JoeyP
Drew walked on the same pitch he was called out on in the 1st.
2006-09-08 16:54:54
146.   confucius
140 right click then hit refresh.
2006-09-08 16:55:30
147.   overkill94
130 132 I can't believe no one kept the ole bit going
2006-09-08 16:55:36
148.   sanchez101
141. ive heard one baseball legend claim that Drew is the best 3-hole hitter he's ever had.
2006-09-08 16:55:57
149.   Zak
140 Ctrl-R
2006-09-08 16:56:41
150.   blue22
F5
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2006-09-08 16:56:49
151.   Bluebleeder87
Millenge hit that ball off of Russell Martin's glove.
2006-09-08 16:57:02
152.   Bluebleeder87
as soon as i say that he strikes out.
2006-09-08 16:57:10
153.   confucius
145 This umpire has been really inconsistent. I believe the Mets were yelling at him during the Green at bat. As long as he gives Kuo what he gives to Maine, I guess I'll live with it.
2006-09-08 16:58:06
154.   blue22
143 - $53M contract (only $18M guaranteed - love the NFL).
2006-09-08 16:58:44
155.   confucius
148 Please tell me more. Bobby Cox or Tony La Russa?
2006-09-08 16:58:57
156.   Bluebleeder87
147 i didn't get 132 "what's on 2nd??"
2006-09-08 16:59:22
157.   natepurcell
i cant believe kuo is throwing this hard.
2006-09-08 17:00:34
158.   overkill94
My IE toolbar has refresh, although for the life of me I can't find the option to put Refresh on there
2006-09-08 17:00:52
159.   sanchez101
155. Bobby Cox said that, I don't believe Tony La Russa was a big JD Drew fan, which is a pretty amazing thing to say when you've had Chipper Jones since before I paid attention to baseball.
2006-09-08 17:01:03
160.   Paul Scott
156 is very very young.
2006-09-08 17:01:09
161.   natepurcell
oh my god kuo is our 5 starter next year.
2006-09-08 17:01:34
162.   Bluebleeder87
Reyes looked like a little leaguer swinging at that curve by Kuo, i swear batters can't see Kou's pitches very well.
2006-09-08 17:02:01
163.   sanchez101
157. if the gun's readings are true, i dont know whether to be excited or scared.
2006-09-08 17:02:14
164.   overkill94
156 in 130 the update from the Jacksonville game ended with "Hu's on first", so I went with the next step. It's an old Abbott and Costello routine.
2006-09-08 17:02:34
165.   Paul Scott
Wow. 5 Balls, 11 Strikes, 3 Ks. Very nice.
2006-09-08 17:02:42
166.   Jim Hitchcock
Thanks, all.
2006-09-08 17:02:48
167.   JoeyP
Kuo's is varying his speeds very well. From 98 to 82. He's pitched very well the first 3ip.
2006-09-08 17:03:03
168.   natepurcell
163

i dont either. but ill enjoy the moment.

2006-09-08 17:03:45
169.   spacebrother
Kuo is looking great, but wait 'till hitters get the book on his stuff. Hpoefully, this will be AFTER L.A. goes to the postseason.
2006-09-08 17:04:17
170.   Paul Scott
4 of 6. Maine must be loving this after the first inning.
2006-09-08 17:04:48
171.   Bluebleeder87
ah if only we had Bills ready, i'd love to have to good pitchers making minimum wage against NY.
2006-09-08 17:04:59
172.   Travis
168 I re-countered your trade proposal.
2006-09-08 17:05:30
173.   Paul Scott
Looks like Kuo will have the best PA of an inning yet again.
2006-09-08 17:06:06
174.   Bluebleeder87
163

I'm biased so i belive the gun.

2006-09-08 17:06:21
175.   natepurcell
172

travis, you are trying to trade your bench players for my starting players.

i cant do that.

2006-09-08 17:07:09
176.   King of the Hobos
Maine made 7 pitches that inning, and Kuo saw 4 of them. They really need to settle down and work the count.
2006-09-08 17:07:15
177.   Paul Scott
36 pitches in the first inning. 28 in the next three combined. Well done.
2006-09-08 17:07:40
178.   Bluebleeder87
does anybody know how many pitches Kuo has thrown?
2006-09-08 17:08:09
179.   Travis
175 I know, I'm not sure what kind of fit there is between our two teams.
2006-09-08 17:08:25
180.   Bluebleeder87
176

agreed.

2006-09-08 17:08:36
181.   ssjames
178 46 pitches through 3 innings pitched.
2006-09-08 17:09:02
182.   overkill94
That curveball is looking good today, I don't remember him being able to throw that for strikes before.
2006-09-08 17:09:02
183.   bearlurker
Yeah, Maine earlier in the game looked like with his pitch count he'd be toast by around the 6th. Horrible job, esp. by Furcal, who should be taking pitches after Kuo just made an out.
2006-09-08 17:09:04
184.   Paul Scott
178 46 through 3.
2006-09-08 17:10:13
185.   Bob Timmermann
Marlins grab an early lead over the Phillies 1-0 on an Olivo RBI triple.
2006-09-08 17:10:14
186.   bearlurker
Sorry, lost track there, Furcal never came up.
2006-09-08 17:10:55
187.   Bluebleeder87
181

nice.

2006-09-08 17:10:57
188.   King of the Hobos
Kuo really does not like Beltran much, hopefully that works out well for him.
2006-09-08 17:12:14
189.   natepurcell
now the ump is squeezing kuo.
2006-09-08 17:12:41
190.   Eric Enders
Watching the Mets broadcast... Ron Darling is fantastic color commentator. I'm throwing his name in the ring for the post-Vin era.
2006-09-08 17:13:08
191.   natepurcell
Kuo has the best stuff out of any pitcher in our system.
2006-09-08 17:13:13
192.   Bluebleeder87
i love the Met's body language against Kuo.
2006-09-08 17:13:43
193.   sanchez101
bada bing!
2006-09-08 17:13:45
194.   King of the Hobos
188 And it does!
2006-09-08 17:15:07
195.   sanchez101
191. Im not going to argue with our in-house prospect expert, but I really like Miller's insane GB ratio's. Kershaw may have something to say about that too, according to what I've read.
2006-09-08 17:15:32
196.   Bluebleeder87
190

wow that's saying something. un biased i would imagine.

2006-09-08 17:16:39
197.   natepurcell
195

Right now Kuos stuff is superior to kershaw and miller. kershaw because his slider is more developed then kershaws cb and he throws harder. miller because he has better command then miller right now.

but you are right, its no runaway. wow we have really exciting lefty prospects

2006-09-08 17:16:56
198.   Bob Timmermann
Darling is a lot better than Keith Hernandez. For starters, Darling does not consider himself to be the center of the universe.
2006-09-08 17:17:00
199.   KAYVMON
So, is starting pitching now a strength going into the postseason? I mean are we only looking for a 5th starter?
2006-09-08 17:17:07
200.   Bluebleeder87
Furcal rocks!
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2006-09-08 17:17:37
201.   sanchez101
holy snikes! Furcal, a homerun. I guess theyre not listless now that theyre winning.
2006-09-08 17:18:26
202.   bearlurker
Furcal was annoyed by my previous libel of him and wanted to show me up.
2006-09-08 17:18:30
203.   Linkmeister
199 One 4-inning outing does not a starter make. ;)
2006-09-08 17:18:32
204.   spacebrother
As I mentioned before, is the fact that no one on the Mets has seen Kuo a factor in this game?
2006-09-08 17:18:59
205.   Bluebleeder87
Nomar rocks!!
2006-09-08 17:19:08
206.   bigcpa
We don't need no stinking small ball.
2006-09-08 17:19:16
207.   Humma Kavula
Nomar!
2006-09-08 17:19:35
208.   Bob Timmermann
204

It certainly doesn't hurt. Remember how Kuo handled the Phillies the first time he faced them this year?

2006-09-08 17:19:44
209.   Paul Scott
204 Kuo has seen as much of them as they have of him.
2006-09-08 17:19:51
210.   Humma Kavula
203 What if they're four, um, interesting innings?
2006-09-08 17:19:53
211.   Bob Timmermann
I'm feeling very listy!
2006-09-08 17:19:53
212.   natepurcell
that would have been a homerun :(
2006-09-08 17:19:58
213.   Bluebleeder87
Drew has worning track power!
2006-09-08 17:20:10
214.   Linkmeister
Wasn't Nomar predicted to hit only nine HRs all year? 'Fess up, whoever that was!
2006-09-08 17:20:11
215.   sanchez101
197. So, what about the northpaws? I also hear that Elbert guy is decent.

Nice job, Nomar. Does Drew have somesort of curse? Can we blame his representation.

2006-09-08 17:20:12
216.   confucius
Beltran rocks, unfortunately
2006-09-08 17:20:59
217.   King of the Hobos
For those watching on Gameday, Beltran just stole a homer from Drew. It may have hit off the top of the wall, but Lyons and Steiner believe it would have left the field.
2006-09-08 17:21:03
218.   sanchez101
214. That would be Steve, although most of us agreed with him at the time.
2006-09-08 17:21:37
219.   Bluebleeder87
204

IMO batters don't see the ball very well out of Kuo's arm, if he throws strikes forget about it.

2006-09-08 17:21:43
220.   spacebrother
209
Well, that would seem to work in Kuo's favor, since their hitting tendencies are more known than Kuo's pitching.
2006-09-08 17:21:59
221.   bhsportsguy
218 I thought A Martinez said the same, I'm gald we are hitting Maine, we get beat so many time by first time pitchers.
2006-09-08 17:22:03
222.   natepurcell
215

well we have meloan and morris who have the same type of stuff. 90-97fb with big spiking curveballs.

and theres billingsley...the poise, the composure, the mixture of secondary pitches and the classic power pitcher lower build.

okay we have a lot of good pitchers i guess.

2006-09-08 17:22:51
223.   Bluebleeder87
216

Pujols rocks harder unfortunetly. he missed a good chunk of the season.

2006-09-08 17:23:13
224.   Humma Kavula
I thought the 9 home runs thing was some silly prognosticator saying that he'd hit 9 HR and 100 RBI... and it was ridiculed because most people here thought that either he'd be healthy enough to hit 100 RBI, in which case he'd have more than 9 HR, or he would only be in the lineup often enough to hit 9 HR, in which case he'd have many fewer than 100 RBI.
2006-09-08 17:23:35
225.   overkill94
221 It was A Martinez early in the year - he said Nomar could get 100 RBI with only 9 HR. Steve just took the ridiculous comment and ran with it.
2006-09-08 17:24:15
226.   bhsportsguy
222 Nate, did you see this note from Kevin Goldstein in today's BP:

Minor league Rule Five pickup Alberto Bastardo had 138 strikeouts in 125.2 innings, and scouts saw the small lefty as a major league bullpen-quality arm--quite a find from the scrap heap. First baseman Cory Dunlap's .261/.435/.461 is downright bizarre, but productive--leaving scouts to wonder what he'd be capable of if he was in shape.

2006-09-08 17:24:38
227.   Steve
Nonsense. I was one of four people here who thought he would hit at all.
2006-09-08 17:25:41
228.   sanchez101
222. Im looking forward to next years rotation down in Columbus: Kershaw, Morris, Johnson. I know Josh Wall's stats have been less than impressive, but have you heard anything about what scouts think of him? Last I heard they were comparing him to AJ Burnett.

If Meloan (and Miller) can follow in Kuo's footsteps, the DBack's are going to be in trouble regardless of how Gonzalez or Upton turn out.

2006-09-08 17:25:55
229.   natepurcell
226

no i didnt, thanks for the heads up. Bastardo is interesting especially with his strikeouts. anyone have any idea on what his stuff comprises of?

2006-09-08 17:26:27
230.   Steve
By the way, hi Jim. Hope you're still taking the overs.
2006-09-08 17:27:24
231.   JoeyP
Maine's given up 14HRs in 73ip this year.
2006-09-08 17:28:17
232.   natepurcell
231

thats what happens when you only throw fastballs.

2006-09-08 17:28:21
233.   Zak
Was Sele officially named as Sunday's starter? I saw the LA Times hinting it would be Stults, but Yahoo is showing Sunday's starter as Sele.
2006-09-08 17:28:40
234.   confucius
Where was that fourth pitch to Wright??
2006-09-08 17:29:01
235.   Uncle Miltie
Just got home; stinks that DJ got robbed of a home run. How has Kuo looked?

Rick Sutcliff is already getting on my nerves.

Terrible play by Lofty!

2006-09-08 17:29:03
236.   Humma Kavula
No longer interesting.
2006-09-08 17:29:04
237.   sanchez101
Did Steve Lyons just say what I thought he said !?

what a suprise, Kuo gives up his first hit, seconds after Lyons mentions the no-hitter.

He should be fired immediatly!

2006-09-08 17:29:13
238.   King of the Hobos
228 Wall was a projection pick, and he's still a beanpole. His stats right now don't concern me, as long as he can gradually improve and stay healthy.
2006-09-08 17:29:14
239.   Bluebleeder87
Lofton is dead to me.
2006-09-08 17:30:12
240.   sanchez101
Kuo may be tiring, he peaked out at ~80 pitches in AAA, if memory serves.
2006-09-08 17:30:13
241.   Bluebleeder87
i'd live inside on Green long swing & all.
2006-09-08 17:30:30
242.   Bob Timmermann
239
You're going to the well too many times with that line.
2006-09-08 17:30:46
243.   Zak
Yeah, that's why Kuo gave up the hit, coz Lyons mentioned it!!
2006-09-08 17:30:48
244.   Bluebleeder87
not matter what i love Kuo's outing.
2006-09-08 17:31:29
245.   sanchez101
238. so he's just a depth guy, oh well, i guess Martin and Kemp were just depth guys at one point.
2006-09-08 17:31:50
246.   Bluebleeder87
242

i'm just kidding god! kill me why don't you.

2006-09-08 17:32:23
247.   Bob Timmermann
I shouldn't have made fun of the Orioles today on the Griddle. They're pounding the Yankees.
2006-09-08 17:32:29
248.   Zak
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, just came out that way. I am not a believer in the theory that certain people's actions affect no-hitters. Seems too egoistic to me. But, I did not mean to seem sarcastic.
2006-09-08 17:33:41
249.   Bluebleeder87
Kuo induced DP.
2006-09-08 17:33:55
250.   natepurcell
Kuo belongs in the HOF right next to Billingsley.
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2006-09-08 17:34:01
251.   sanchez101
to be fair, a strikeout of Woodward should only count as a 9/10 of a K.

A DP! Huzzah
Go, Go, Kuo!

2006-09-08 17:34:36
252.   Bluebleeder87
248

In my book, no harm no foul. carrying on brotha.

2006-09-08 17:35:03
253.   Uncle Miltie
243- I blame Rick Sutcliff for saying "Kuo is not going to pitch a no hitter"

Sutcliff is a flip flopper. One minute, you'll hear him praising a player and then if that same player messes up, he'll explain to the viewer why that player is flawed.

2006-09-08 17:35:10
254.   JoeyP
If the Dodgers had to face the Mets in the playoffs, I think you'd want Kuo starting against them. Their lineup vs LHP is alot worse than their regular lineup.

Significant dropoff with Woodward/Milledge compared to Floyd/Valentin.

2006-09-08 17:35:15
255.   Telemachos
247 Stupid Cory Lidle.... of course I had to start him today. No, I'm not bitter.
2006-09-08 17:36:30
256.   Telemachos
Pop quiz, hotshot: does Kuo bat this inning, or does Grady pinch-hit for him?
2006-09-08 17:36:32
257.   sanchez101
248. I didnt come off as sarcastic. I can live with the fact that most of my ideas and actions can't be justiftified by rational analysis.
2006-09-08 17:36:39
258.   bhsportsguy
What's nice about this is that here is a situation where the MLB club wanted to make someone a situational pitcher but he could not make it there but his stuff is so good that in AAA he goes backs and starts, something he has done in years and now he seems to have better command and still has good stuff.

Maybe this will make them think twice about Greg Miller.

2006-09-08 17:36:50
259.   confucius
247 Make fun of Tampa Bay next. They play the Yankees next week.
2006-09-08 17:37:02
260.   Bob Timmermann
256
Shoot the hostage!
2006-09-08 17:37:02
261.   xaphor
[250] When do we rename it the HODP (Hall of Dodger Prospects)
2006-09-08 17:37:53
262.   sanchez101
256. pinch-hit. Kuo's elbow ligaments is more important that some silly division championship.
2006-09-08 17:37:55
263.   JoeyP
I'd pinch hit and be happy you got 5ip out of Kuo.

The Mets have the top of their lineup due up in the 6th. I'd bring in Broxton for the 6th/7th.

2006-09-08 17:38:30
264.   sanchez101
257. should start with "It"
2006-09-08 17:38:46
265.   Zak
254 Well, it is only one start. The Mets would not be the first team to make an adjustment the second time a guy was pitching against them. Even so, this is a beyond-expectations type of start for Kuo.
2006-09-08 17:39:18
266.   Bob Timmermann
I believe I had the right answer to the question in 256
2006-09-08 17:39:42
267.   Uncle Miltie
Come on Fookie...

You have to get that one in!

2006-09-08 17:39:52
268.   Telemachos
260 I think Martin took your advice.
2006-09-08 17:40:17
269.   Greg Brock
253 Don't get mad at Sutcliffe. He's just waiting around for George Clooney to "Solve that thing down there."

If you don't get it, sorry, but MLB has taken away the YouTube clip.

2006-09-08 17:41:39
270.   Bluebleeder87
263

Grady wants one more out of Kuo, i'm ok with it as long as Kuo hasn't thrown 100 pitches or even 80 pitches.

2006-09-08 17:41:43
271.   Uncle Miltie
Nice hit Lofty!
2006-09-08 17:42:04
272.   sanchez101
269. lol
2006-09-08 17:42:37
273.   Zak
264 Thanks. You're a sport! I don't usually comment much, but the no-mention of the no-hitter thing is just too much of a pet peeve. It rankles me in too many listless ways.
2006-09-08 17:43:19
274.   xaphor
A-Rod must wish Steiner called for the Yanks. Lofton with a clutch RBI to take a 5 run lead.
2006-09-08 17:43:19
275.   Bluebleeder87
air mail by the Met's pitcher.
2006-09-08 17:44:00
276.   spacebrother
Intentional walk? Huh? Nomah's not exactly on fire these days.
2006-09-08 17:44:21
277.   spacebrother
Never mind.
2006-09-08 17:45:04
278.   Bob Timmermann
I don't believe the Dodgers Thoughts Rules Committee is entertaining debate on any modifications to Rule #9.

You can't even use the initiative process here to bring it to a vote. But if you want hire people to stand outside supermarkets and annoy people to sign your petition, knock yourself out.

2006-09-08 17:45:05
279.   sanchez101
276. he did just hit a homerun
2006-09-08 17:45:06
280.   Greg Brock
Recently overheard at a Padres/Cubs game:

Sutcliffe (Sauced): George Clooney. You been readin' about all that? You been seein' that?

Matt Vasgergian: George Clooney?

Sutcliffe (Sauced): Yeah. He's up there with um... He's up there with the Congress. He's trying to get everybody… to go over there... and solve that thing (The Middle East crisis).

Stay hammered, Sut.

2006-09-08 17:46:44
281.   Zak
278 Hey, I never pretended this was a democracy. :) I'm just out to rankle back. Of course, they could put me in prison for that, or at least blacklist me.
2006-09-08 17:46:58
282.   natepurcell
why on earth would greg maddux start charlie batch?
2006-09-08 17:48:51
283.   Uncle Miltie
280- lol, I did see that. Sutcliff seems like a cool guy to drink with at a bar, but he'd creep me out if he wanted to come back to my dorm to party.
2006-09-08 17:49:13
284.   sanchez101
85 mph breaking ball on the black for strike three ... is it too soon to call him Kuofax?
2006-09-08 17:50:38
285.   natepurcell
give kuo the K you stupid umps.
2006-09-08 17:50:51
286.   sanchez101
Kuo has Reyes' number
2006-09-08 17:51:05
287.   Bluebleeder87
nice call from the umps.
2006-09-08 17:51:34
288.   King of the Hobos
May be my bias, but that looks like a good call by the ump.
2006-09-08 17:52:37
289.   Bluebleeder87
i have to say this simply because i know it's true but I still love LoDuca's swing.
2006-09-08 17:52:57
290.   Zak
Florida's pitching staff is so exciting to follow. I am rooting for them to take the Wild Card (provided the Blue wrap up the NL West). Of course, I wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs, considering they've never lost a playoff series and all that!
2006-09-08 17:53:03
291.   Uncle Miltie
Come on Wilber II...
2006-09-08 17:53:25
292.   natepurcell
one more inning!!!
2006-09-08 17:53:37
293.   sanchez101
what's Kuo's pitchcount at?
2006-09-08 17:54:21
294.   Bob Timmermann
Gameday listed Lo Duca's single
"run-scoring play"
2006-09-08 17:55:06
295.   Mark Joseph
Nice parallel between Maddux' first start as a Dodger, and Kuo's.
2006-09-08 17:55:09
296.   capdodger
294 Wishful thinking by the NYC gameday stringer...
2006-09-08 17:55:27
297.   JoeyP
This is the best start by a Dodger rookie since I'd say Edwin Jackson's debut. Probably better than that game.

Kuo's been filthy tonite.
Great velocity, mechanics, everything.

2006-09-08 17:55:44
298.   King of the Hobos
Kuo pitched a great game, but there's no reason to overwork him. 90 pitches is enough for a 5 run lead, I'm sure our 9 man bullpen can pitch 3 innings without giving up 5 runs.
2006-09-08 17:55:48
299.   bearlurker
Do you take him out now at 90 pitches? I think I would but it's borderline.
2006-09-08 17:55:50
300.   Uncle Miltie
292- no. I'd take him out now. 6 very solid innings is a big confidence booster for Kuo.
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2006-09-08 17:56:11
301.   Zak
Kuo - 6 IP, 90 pitches, 7 K, 3 H, 3 BB, 0 R

I'll take some of that every fifth day with a dash of Brox and Saito.

2006-09-08 17:56:23
302.   bhsportsguy
297 You mean his first start right, Chad had some nice starts this year too.
2006-09-08 17:56:48
303.   natepurcell
297

Billingsleys 9k effort was outstanding too. But this ranks right up there. Like you said, great everything.

2006-09-08 17:56:50
304.   bhsportsguy
Stults is starting on Sunday per Rick Monday.
2006-09-08 17:57:28
305.   Uncle Miltie
297- Chad Billingsley has pitched a few gems this year
2006-09-08 17:57:28
306.   Bluebleeder87
300

agreed, although watching Tomko worming up dons't make me feel good.

2006-09-08 17:57:40
307.   JoeyP
This game is better than any game that Billingsley has pitched, when you consider the opponent.
2006-09-08 17:58:43
308.   sanchez101
So Kuo has been compared to Edwin Jackson, Greg Maddux, Sandy Koufax or perhaps Karl Spooner. Thats a pretty wide range of possibilities, Ill be thirlled if he's just Chan Ho Park.
2006-09-08 17:59:05
309.   bearlurker
Tomko pitching to Delgado, Wright and Green could be bad news indeed.
2006-09-08 17:59:48
310.   natepurcell
what was kuos gamescore?
2006-09-08 17:59:51
311.   Bob Timmermann
308
I'd be thrilled if Kuo was just Brian Bohanon.
2006-09-08 18:00:26
312.   capdodger
308- Pre-Texas Chan Ho Park?
2006-09-08 18:00:30
313.   Uncle Miltie
Sutcliffe is clearly plastered.

"Hitteded" is not a word, Rick.

2006-09-08 18:00:37
314.   Sam DC
Boy, these Mets are just phoning it in.
2006-09-08 18:00:38
315.   Bluebleeder87
if Tomko strubles giving up a hit or a wake or both, i'd jank him out.
2006-09-08 18:01:27
316.   Bluebleeder87
307

agreed.

2006-09-08 18:01:53
317.   Sam DC
Boom goes the Ryan Howard. Phils 2-1.
2006-09-08 18:02:11
318.   sanchez101
I'd be thrilled if Kuo can go his entire career with every announcer miss-pronouncing his name. That almost happened to Hakeem Olijawon (sp?) and somehow didn't happen to Brett Favre.
2006-09-08 18:02:38
319.   JoeyP
If the best material for a sideline reporter is discussing fantasy football, is there really a need for said reporter?
2006-09-08 18:03:19
320.   King of the Hobos
310 70
2006-09-08 18:03:20
321.   sanchez101
Last time I checked, Tomko is a different pitcher out of the bullpen.
2006-09-08 18:04:01
322.   capdodger
Please, buckle your seatbelts and raise your seatbacks and tray-tables to their upright and locked positions.
2006-09-08 18:05:51
323.   das411
Has anybody mentioned today's Murray Chass column in the NYT? The one where he talks about how this season's Bosox could have Anakin Sanchez, Hanley Ramirez, Marte, Arroyo, Cla Meredith, Freddy Sanchez, and Mike Gonzalez?

http://tinyurl.com/q59yz

2006-09-08 18:05:54
324.   King of the Hobos
Billingsley has only had one game score higher than 70, his 9 K game. That one was a 79.
2006-09-08 18:07:00
325.   Uncle Miltie
DJ is an underrated fielder
2006-09-08 18:08:04
326.   Bluebleeder87
i hope Saito makes an apperance today, NY & all.
2006-09-08 18:08:29
327.   JoeyP
Tomko in a 5 run game is ok to handle.
He still gives up rockets.
2006-09-08 18:09:29
328.   Bluebleeder87
Saito or Broxton
2006-09-08 18:09:40
329.   Greg Brock
Murray Chass thinks Tony Conigliaro is on deck to face Fritz Peterson today.
2006-09-08 18:12:03
330.   Sam DC
In the top of the first in Colorado, Soriano doubled then stole third for his 38th SB. He's at 44 HRs.
2006-09-08 18:13:43
331.   Telemachos
323 That's a hilarious article -- brutal that the Red Sox gave up so many quality youngsters.

Although I certainly hope someone forwards it to Ned Colletti... the moves described sound very much like his MO so far.

2006-09-08 18:13:45
332.   Bluebleeder87
Steiner saying "the moon to pose" is just to funny.
2006-09-08 18:14:04
333.   Gen3Blue
Come on boys--a little killer instinct now.
You are doing great.
2006-09-08 18:14:31
334.   sanchez101
330. two more SB's, and he's looking at the biggest contract in the offseason. Thank God we dont need a 2B or an outfielder.
2006-09-08 18:17:41
335.   Greg Brock
There is no way the Dogers should make a run at Soriano, because they have Andre Ethier...

Seriously, nobody really believes that, do they? Tell me no, please.

2006-09-08 18:18:04
336.   King of the Hobos
323 Gonzalez and Sanchez were traded in 2003! Why are they even in the argument? If he's using a 3 year span, almost every team has some guys they regret giving up.
2006-09-08 18:20:14
337.   sanchez101
331. Youre saying that if Ned follows in Theo's footsteps, you'll be dissapointed? The guy did win the Red Sox first championship. He's also traded a number of young prospects that havent turned into anything.
2006-09-08 18:20:31
338.   Bluebleeder87
Reyes is the Hero to Zero of the Met's.
2006-09-08 18:21:37
339.   Marty
Hey, I missed Jim again. Though I don't envy him in Carson City. I've spent a few nights there.
2006-09-08 18:23:57
340.   Linkmeister
Hey, Sam...the Brahms Ein Deutsches Requiem performance by Masur and the NY Phil on 9/20/2001 was carried live on TV and Radio, but there don't appear to be any recordings of it. I tried the NY Phil website and Amazon, but no luck. There's a 1995 CD with Masur and the orchestra at Amazon, though.

You might try WKMR. It appears to be the station which broadcast it on TV.

2006-09-08 18:27:16
341.   Bluebleeder87
Drew is just going threu the motions.
2006-09-08 18:28:14
342.   Sam DC
Thanks Link.
2006-09-08 18:29:43
343.   Uncle Miltie
No wonder why Sutcliffe hates JD Drew so much.... he doesn't play through injuries!
2006-09-08 18:32:35
344.   Linkmeister
Er, um. WKMR is a station in Kentucky. I suspect they didn't originate the feed from the Lincoln Center.

Whoops, my mistake.

2006-09-08 18:32:50
345.   Sam DC
Boom goes the Ryan Howard (56).
2006-09-08 18:34:16
346.   Bluebleeder87
how much is Saito making this year?
2006-09-08 18:34:36
347.   Greg Brock
Hopefully Ryan Howard can hit 61 homers in 154 games and be the single season home run king.
2006-09-08 18:34:44
348.   Telemachos
337 You're reading too much into my statement. Of course I'd like it if Ned brings the Dodgers a championship. I think so far his trades have been a mixed bag. I do think he tends to fiddle a bit much, and he's occasionally cavalier about dumping young talent. Theo's moves have been iffy as well, and in the cases listed by that article have hurt the Sox in the long run.

In Colletti's case, I even understand the Lugo trade... but continually dumping youngsters for temporary (and replacement-level) veterans will come back to eventually bite you in the butt.

2006-09-08 18:34:46
349.   Bluebleeder87
345

that guy is sick

2006-09-08 18:36:03
350.   Sam DC
Wasn't watching, but this seems like it must have been interesting (bases loaded, one out):

"Jeff Salazar grounds into a force out, pitcher Tony Armas to shortstop Felipe Lopez to second baseman Jose Vidro. Brad Hawpe scores. Troy Tulowitzki to 3rd. Chris Iannetta out at 2nd. Jeff Salazar to 1st."

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2006-09-08 18:36:53
351.   Uncle Miltie
Saito is pretty good...
2006-09-08 18:37:16
352.   Gen3Blue
I couldn't bare the stress of the ninth, so I went outside for about 20 seconds. When I came in Saito had two out!
Booo-Yah. we win.
2006-09-08 18:37:24
353.   Bluebleeder87
*$327,500 Takashi Saito, I love it, take that NY!!!
2006-09-08 18:39:02
354.   Sam DC
Byung-Hyun Kim has struck out six of the first seven Nationals in Colo.
2006-09-08 18:40:57
355.   Bluebleeder87
*$327,500 Jonathan Broxton

take that NY!

2006-09-08 18:41:40
356.   Sam DC
Sorry, I misread that -- six of his first seven outs were by K, but there were two hits mixed in.
2006-09-08 18:47:22
357.   Gen3Blue
DTV may eventually shut me off--but I am going to enjoy as much Mets coverage as I can after listening to their announcers euphoria much of last night.
Great Job by Kuo by the way. I'm not sure why guys like him and Broxton are not always encouraged as starters, although I admit Broxton is shaping up well as a reliever. When the competition is guys like Henderson, ts hard to fathom.
And Lofton--hitting .306 for the year.
2006-09-08 18:47:28
358.   Greg Brock
356 I'm tired of your lies, Sam.
2006-09-08 18:48:16
359.   Greg Brock
357 Broxton..."shaping up". I see what you did there.
2006-09-08 18:51:08
360.   natepurcell
359

and the shape is of a production possibilities curve.

2006-09-08 18:51:49
361.   Jon Weisman
I wish I could have seen the game. Here's to HCK...
2006-09-08 18:51:56
362.   Sam DC
360 I'm not following -- is that some more Cherokee Cosmology?
2006-09-08 18:53:19
363.   Gen3Blue
359 I didn't, but its not here or there. Nothing to crab about on a night like this:)
2006-09-08 18:54:03
364.   natepurcell
362

www.oswego.edu/~economic/eco101/chap2/ppc1.gif

his girth... bowed out...fat.. big belly... eh forget it, it was funny in my head.

2006-09-08 18:54:52
365.   Uncle Miltie
360- no more Econ talk! We went through this last year. I'm done with Econ, so I don't want to hear about it; at least not until I start my upper division courses.
2006-09-08 18:55:08
366.   ToyCannon
OP k's 10 Bosox!!!
2006-09-08 18:55:40
367.   Gen3Blue
360,362 Sounds more like Operation research, or some other horrible graduate math course I think I took.
2006-09-08 18:56:12
368.   Sam DC
No, I'm with you -- I figured it was something like that but really just wanted to make the Cosmology joke.
2006-09-08 19:00:58
369.   Benaiah
Kuo, Elbert, Kershaw... Do the Dodgers have the best young lefties in baseball?
2006-09-08 19:02:09
370.   Paul Scott
Nice game. Kuo shook off a bad start. Impressive and quick adjustment.
2006-09-08 19:03:18
371.   MMSMikey
is it too late to give laroche a shot at 3rd to see what hes got? lugo is terrible and betemit swings at everything.
2006-09-08 19:03:32
372.   Gen3Blue
I'll always like a cosmology joke better. And Sam, I appreciate your interest in the D's, and look foward to your reports on the Nats., who I have adopted as a second tier team in my interest.
2006-09-08 19:03:34
373.   JoeyP
The last Dodgers lefty to throw as hard as Kuo was Scott Radinsky. Radinsky was only a 1 inning pitcher.

Kuo was still throwing 96 in the 6th inning. Best performance I've seen in a long long time from a Dodgers rookie. Hopefully Broxton follows suit next year, and the Dodgers might indeed develop a couple aces.

2006-09-08 19:06:14
374.   Bob Timmermann
Odalis Perez struck out 10 Red Sox batters in six innings of work.
2006-09-08 19:07:05
375.   Gen3Blue
As long as the D's know what they have in Laroche, I don't mind them bringing at least one guy along slow. I think he may eventually be one of the best. I hope both he and the font office have discussed and agree with this.
2006-09-08 19:09:17
376.   JoeyP
I think the most impressive thing tonite about Kuo was that he accomplished it with a very simple game plan. I think he only threw two pitches all nite--fastball- (94-98), and a changeup (82). He spotted everything perfectly.
2006-09-08 19:10:52
377.   natepurcell
376

you didnt see the sliders or slurves? he threw a ton of them from 82-86.

2006-09-08 19:11:05
378.   Gen3Blue
374 Whats gotten into Odious Perez; worse, whats gotten into the Red Sox?
2006-09-08 19:11:16
379.   Gen3Blue
374 Whats gotten into Odious Perez; worse, whats gotten into the Red Sox?
2006-09-08 19:11:31
380.   Sam DC
374 We need to get Bob the cipherkey for 366.
2006-09-08 19:12:14
381.   Benaiah
Looking to the future, here are positions that are (barring injury) filled for the next two years at least:

C Martin
SS Furcal
3B Betemit
LF Ethier
RF Drew

Penny
Lowe
Billz

Broxton

On top of that, Kent, Tomko, Dessens and Saenz are all under contract for next year and Kuo and Loney are obviously around for longer than that. If we can get Saito back, the only real hole is one starter to compliment Kuo/Tomko and perhaps a CF if Kemp isn't ready.

2006-09-08 19:12:16
382.   Gen3Blue
Oops

Oops Oops

Sorry for double post.

2006-09-08 19:15:20
383.   Bob Timmermann
Ron Coomer is filling in for the suspended Bert Blyleven on the Twins broadcast. He's not half bad, although a bit homerish.

His voice is much higher than you would think.

2006-09-08 19:16:31
384.   Gen3Blue
381 I hope Betemit isn't in Laroche's way for two whole years.
I know they have to justify the trades for Betemit and Lugo, but I hope it doesn't come to that.
2006-09-08 19:17:57
385.   Bob Timmermann
I actually was typing and then searching while 366 was coming up.
2006-09-08 19:20:42
386.   Uncle Miltie
378- hate to say it, but I predicted that Odalis would do better pretty well in the AL. A change of scenery was part of the reason, but I think the main reason is that it's an offspeed league. Perez should be a serviceable pitcher for the Royals. If the Royals decide to trade him at the deadline next season, they may get a pretty good prospect in return. Ned gave up on Perez way too soon.
2006-09-08 19:21:23
387.   Bluebleeder87
371

I haven't seen LaRouche at all this year but from what i've read i'd shut him down.

2006-09-08 19:21:52
388.   Bob Timmermann
The Royals bullpen has given up 6 runs in the 8th to Boston.
2006-09-08 19:21:56
389.   JoeyP
I'd prefer LaRoche be moved to 2nd base. Betemit can play 3b until the Dodgers trade for Miguel Cabrera.
2006-09-08 19:23:03
390.   Bluebleeder87
377

Lyons at one point thought his slurve was a fastball.

2006-09-08 19:25:03
391.   King of the Hobos
Things are not looking good for the Suns' repeat, as they are now down 0-2 in a 5 game series. Danny Muegge should start, a loss would end their season.
2006-09-08 19:26:51
392.   Sam DC
385 Check.

388 Well, wonder if the Boston press has learned the importance of putting a microphone in front of Odalis Perez at moments like this.

2006-09-08 19:30:13
393.   Gen3Blue
Laroche is still young--not like Loney and Kemp, but only 22 or 23, and he has always caught up to his league and then surpassed it. He has out performed his brother at most points I believe. He should get consideration for at least a year or maybe two to show more power than any 3rd basemen we have. IMO.
2006-09-08 19:31:05
394.   Sam DC
The Nationals announcers are now talking up Jamey Carroll and his four errors for the NL golden glove at second base.

Apparently, they're not real familiar with how that award works.

2006-09-08 19:32:30
395.   xaphor
Found some old Fry and Laurie clips on YouTube and this sketch reminded me of our resident information guru, Bob. Thought I'd share (warning some non-DT friendly language):

http://tinyurl.com/llxmr

2006-09-08 19:35:06
396.   caseybarker
391 I thought it was pretty interesting that Justin Ruggiano helped beat the Suns. Was he a Sun this year, or was he still in Vero Beach?
2006-09-08 19:35:11
397.   Bob Timmermann
Giants lead 1-0 after 1 against the Padres.
2006-09-08 19:36:14
398.   JoeyP
Matt Cain has only allowed 1ER in his last 28ip.
2006-09-08 19:39:42
399.   Sam DC
Wow, Timlin trying to give this back to KC. Second and third, one out.
2006-09-08 19:42:17
400.   Gen3Blue
391,396 I hated giving up Ruggiano. But I am really conservati8ve when it comes to players in our system. I was just posting when I noticed given two equal players, I always want the one who came up through our system. I can't help it . Oh well.
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2006-09-08 19:43:23
401.   Sam DC
Joey Gathright doubles in two. We could have had that guy!
2006-09-08 19:44:47
402.   thinkingblue
young prospects that havent turned into anything

Theo also traded Ramirez and Sancehz.

But man, that was impressive by Kuo. I am dreaming of Billingsley, Kuo, Kershaw, Elbert, and Penny one day.

And by the way, does anyone else feel more comfortable when Kuo or Billz starts than Penny? Everyone likes to talk about our "big 3," but I really like our 4 and 5(Billz and Kuo that is.)

2006-09-08 19:45:05
403.   Sam DC
10 minutes ago, Bos stood to make up a game on the Twins. Now both games have flopped over and they stand to lose another game.
2006-09-08 19:45:14
404.   Bluebleeder87
397

catch 22, but happy non-the less

2006-09-08 19:45:35
405.   thinkingblue
402.

Billingsley, Kuo, Kershaw, Elbert and Penny all in the rotation that is. Maybe Morris.
2006-09-08 19:47:36
406.   King of the Hobos
396 He was promoted to Jacksonville mid-season last year, and started back there this year, where he regressed. However, he's been great for Montgomery, hitting .333/.442/.630 in 108 ABs.
2006-09-08 19:52:47
407.   Bob Timmermann
The Angels now have a better record than the Red Sox.
2006-09-08 19:55:43
408.   Sam DC
Chances of the game having any meaning whatsoever when I see the Red Sox and Orioles on 9/14 looking extraordinarily slim.
2006-09-08 19:56:39
409.   Xeifrank
GuO Dodgers!!!!
Hopefully we have found a replacement in the rotation for Hendrickson for the rest of the season and another starter for the 2007 rotation. vr, Xei
2006-09-08 20:00:42
410.   Sam DC
Nats announcers still on Jamey Carroll for gold glove, as Tony Armas walks him with his 105th pitch. Bottom of the sixth, no outs, tie game.

Ooh . . . a four mile long foul ball with the 106th pitch. Hmmm . . . what to do, thinks Frank.

2006-09-08 20:00:44
411.   adamclyde
Ahh... that was much better. Just got back from Shea. Nice and quiet at the stadium tonight - a nice reprieve from last night.

Highlights - number one of course - Kuo. Was great to hear people in the stadium before the game practically salivating at getting at the rookie, then have him show them all up. Second, was, of course, the back to back to almost back home runs. And, last, seeing Reyes thrown out at third... a nice change from last night.

saw more dodger fans there tonight. nice to see.

2006-09-08 20:01:49
412.   adamclyde
oh, and a TON of brooklyn dodger hats on the 60 and over crowd. That's always great to see too...
2006-09-08 20:02:49
413.   bill cox
#315 Bluebleeder,was that post written in Swedish?
The Suns have a very bad lineup.How they competed all year after Kemp and Laroche left is a tribute to good pitching.Lundberg and Nall have been solid and the bullpen lights out.
Nate Purcell,what do you think of Jonathon Meloan?
2006-09-08 20:04:50
414.   Sam DC
So, who will win the second base gold glove in the NL? They should just give an extra one for third so that both Rolen and Ryan Zimmerman can win.
2006-09-08 20:06:37
415.   Nagman
Does anybody know why the White Sox are wearing green tonight? Is it Irish American night at the ballpark?
2006-09-08 20:08:46
416.   Bob Timmermann
414
I would think Orlando Hudson will win the NL Gold Glove at second base. He won in the AL last year.
2006-09-08 20:10:54
417.   Bob Timmermann
The White Sox are celebrating "Halfway to St. Patrick's Day" sponsored by Miller Lite. Because you know, there's nothing better than having one country's national and religious holiday be immediately associated with binge drinking.

Signed,
A guy who is part Irish who refuses to wear green on March 17.

2006-09-08 20:10:55
418.   Sam DC
414 I'm wondering about Chase Utley. He feels like a gold glove kind of guy.
2006-09-08 20:13:59
419.   Sam DC
417 Not the answer I expected.

416 Smart.

2006-09-08 20:15:28
420.   Greg Brock
When it comes to drinking, I venerate all the saints.

God Bless you, St. Alipius.

2006-09-08 20:15:40
421.   Bob Timmermann
Jeff Kent has a higher range factor than Chase Utley.
2006-09-08 20:17:27
422.   Bob Timmermann
419
St. Patrick's Day is one of my pet peeves. Mainly because I despise binge drinking, and all the concomitant problems it brings.
2006-09-08 20:17:27
423.   Bluebleeder87
420

I promised Jon a good day from me & i deliverd, but i'm drinking at the moment, off day tomorrow & all.

2006-09-08 20:17:55
424.   Gen3Blue
Sticking in my opinion, it would not be out of line to give both Lunberg and Nall an ML start, after what we have been getting.
402 I think many minds are with you at this point. Something is amiss with Penny, and his control and command would generate anxiety in anyone. His starts are heart rending. But the one good thing is that he is throwing 97mph. Nothing is wrong with that part, and he should be able to figure it out.
2006-09-08 20:18:02
425.   Bob Timmermann
I believe the word for today is "juxtaposition".
2006-09-08 20:18:55
426.   Bluebleeder87
Guinness or Coronas do the job.
2006-09-08 20:20:23
427.   Gen3Blue
This is almost unprecedented. I am watching a later game and rooting for the Giants!
2006-09-08 20:20:55
428.   Bob Timmermann
I prefer to think of it as "rooting for the Padres to lose."
2006-09-08 20:21:43
429.   Greg Brock
Saint Alipius was known for his fondness of bloodsports.

Just though you should know.

2006-09-08 20:22:52
430.   Bluebleeder87
what's the score S.D. & S.F.?
2006-09-08 20:23:53
431.   Bluebleeder87
Even though i'm drinking i'm still gonna respect Jons blog.
2006-09-08 20:25:06
432.   Greg Brock
So, I guess that HBO has moved on from the Red Sox, and decided to make a documentary about the Cubs.

Sadly, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays continue to go undocumented.

2006-09-08 20:25:23
433.   Gen3Blue
128 That feels better
430 Still 1-0 Giants, but looking even more hopeful(Giant on third,1 out).
2006-09-08 20:25:49
434.   das411
421 - But Chase Utley has been the best offensive 2B in the league this year Bob!

At least, the best one who has not been playing LF for Sam DC's hometown nine...

Also, wouldn't halfway to St. Patrick's Day be on, yknow, the 17th?

2006-09-08 20:26:10
435.   Bob Timmermann
2-0 Giants.
2006-09-08 20:28:25
436.   Sam DC
Well, I can't figure out what happened, but the Nationals are now up to five errors, including one play that seems to have had two separate throwing errors.

gameday is still sorting out the damage, I believe.

2006-09-08 20:29:23
437.   Bob Timmermann
434
Indeed, St. Patrick's Day is 190 days away.
2006-09-08 20:33:22
438.   Bob Timmermann
The Cardinals have 1 hit through 7 innings in Arizona against Livan Hernandez. It was a home run by Juan Encarnacion.
2006-09-08 20:37:10
439.   Bob Timmermann
Bobby Jenks gave up three straight doubles to start the 9th against Cleveland and the Indians now lead 5-4.
2006-09-08 20:37:37
440.   Bob Timmermann
Whoops, that just made it 5-5.
2006-09-08 20:38:54
441.   Bluebleeder87
437

i can tell you some bad & good St. Patricks day stories, the bad i rather forget but the good are very good.

2006-09-08 20:42:47
442.   Gen3Blue
Our old Juan, and I'm not waiting for two,
I'm surprised to ask, but I listened to about three sentences from the announcers and I couldn't tell if they were Giant's or Padre's. I'm afraid an ad just gave it away, but I was very impressed not to identify "Homers" in 3 sentences. I'm on DTV.
2006-09-08 20:43:22
443.   Xeifrank
Matt Cain has yet to give up a double tonight. vr, Xei
2006-09-08 20:43:40
444.   King of the Hobos
439 And a fourth was given up, but Martinez walked, breaking the string.
2006-09-08 20:45:34
445.   Bluebleeder87
443

thanks for the updates peepz, i really hope S.D. saw the gem that Kuo threw.

2006-09-08 20:45:57
446.   Bob Timmermann
The record for consecutive doubles by a team is five. The 1934 Senators did it against the Red Sox.
2006-09-08 20:46:55
447.   natepurcell
Nate Purcell,what do you think of Jonathon Meloan?

I think he has tremendous ability and the dodgers should let him loose as the #1 starter for jacksonville next year.

what do you think of him? have you seen him pitch professionally?

2006-09-08 20:47:46
448.   Bob Timmermann
Cleveland went:
Double
Double
Double
Double
Walk
Double play
2006-09-08 20:50:30
449.   Nagman
Matt Cain finally gave up a hit with 1 out in the 6th. He's thru 6 but has thrown over 100 pitches, 2-0 Giants.

The Padres announcers did their best to jinx it, with the words "no-hitter" being used in just about every sentence while the Pads were at bat. (Vasgersian is not there tonight)

2006-09-08 20:51:01
450.   Sam DC
Nationals down 7-5 two on two outs in the eighth tie the game on a Ryan Church pinch hit double (lefty hitter off lefty pitcher). Catcher Brian Schneider somehow made it home from first.
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2006-09-08 20:54:37
451.   Sam DC
So the Rox have added two errors of their own for a total of seven in the game. The score is now 8-7 Nationals; gameday reports only 7 of those 15 runs earned.
2006-09-08 20:56:21
452.   Xeifrank
449. The Padres have announcers?
vr, Xei
2006-09-08 20:56:24
453.   Bob Timmermann
And then the White Sox win on a single and a home run by Pierzynski.
2006-09-08 20:58:08
454.   Nagman
452 - Well, I had to refer to them somehow. They are unbearable, both radio and TV.
2006-09-08 20:59:37
455.   Daniel Zappala
402 I liked how Kuo looked too. I'm hoping he comes on strong and becomes the Dodger's ace-in-the-hole once the playoffs start. If he consistently pitches like he did tonight, the Dodgers would have to find a place for him in the shortened rotation. Yeah, I know, I'm getting carried away ...
2006-09-08 20:59:40
456.   Xeifrank
454. The Padres are on both radio AND tv?
vr, Xei
2006-09-08 21:01:01
457.   Bob Timmermann
Every time Ted Leitner announces a sporting event, God sends out a plague of locusts to some part of the world at random.
2006-09-08 21:01:51
458.   Daniel Zappala
Bluebleeder -- some advice, even though you probably don't want it. Give up drinking. I did, and my life has been a lot better for it. If you're drinking to get a buzz or have fun, there are a lot better ways to feel good about yourself.
2006-09-08 21:01:52
459.   Sam DC
453 Alas.
2006-09-08 21:02:09
460.   Bob Timmermann
Strikeouts by Rockies pitchers tonight: 12
Striketous by Nats pitchers: 0
2006-09-08 21:04:16
461.   Daniel Zappala
It's a new day when Saunders and Kuo can get victories starting for the Angels and Dodgers.
2006-09-08 21:09:44
462.   Bluebleeder87
455

just look at any MLB batter against him, it's that simple, i really hope the Dodgers baby his arm untill it get's really strong, does anybody know if he has a good work ethic?

2006-09-08 21:10:38
463.   Greg Brock
With all due respect to the Philosopher King, I can assure you that if any Giants pitcher gets to within nine outs of a no-hitter, my post will look a little something like this:

Hey! No Hitter going on! That Giants pitcher, he's throwing a no-hitter! He hasn't given up a hit! Not a single one! No hits! Can you believe it!

Sorry, but some rules are made to be broken.

2006-09-08 21:11:59
464.   Bob Timmermann
463
That's because you're really John Montefusco.
2006-09-08 21:12:05
465.   Bluebleeder87
454

i swear they should do a survey on fans that are home based but root for apposing teams, i'll tell you what there health from my simple minded point of view isn't good.

2006-09-08 21:13:00
466.   Sam DC
Rox get three (so far) off Gigantor in the errorless (so far) bottom of the 8th - now lead 10-8.
2006-09-08 21:13:56
467.   Bluebleeder87
463

so you're telling me tha Cain has a no-no going?? a no-no?

let me get this right... a NO-NO!!???

2006-09-08 21:16:18
468.   Sam DC
11-8 now, knife-twisting RBI single by Vinny Castilla.

Stan Kasten is busily calling Comcast and seeing what he has to do to get the games off cable for the last few weeks of the season.

2006-09-08 21:18:10
469.   Greg Brock
Sam, I must say that the entire Nationals experriment is getting off to a roaring start.

By roaring, I mean disastrous, and by start, I mean disaster.

2006-09-08 21:18:59
470.   Greg Brock
So, local fans can at least watch the games now, right?

I think the UN made a ruling on that.

2006-09-08 21:20:17
471.   Sam DC
470 Yup. And it's been special.
2006-09-08 21:20:52
472.   JoeyP
Matt Cain has given up 1ER in his last 35 ip. The Dodgers are one of the only teams to hit him well this year.
2006-09-08 21:24:38
473.   Greg Brock
471 And by special, you mean disaster.
2006-09-08 21:25:08
474.   Bluebleeder87
to be honest i'm looking more forward to the L.A. TIMES peace tomorrow rather than NY times.

ps l.a times, spin in boys spin it good.

2006-09-08 21:25:58
475.   Greg Brock
I'm watching a 20/20 special on conjoined twins, and I can only imagine the huge advantage they would have on the mound. I'm sure Billy Beane is already looking into it.
2006-09-08 21:29:15
476.   Daniel Zappala
Just another Halo victory. That's 6 in a row. Now if the teams ahead of them would just lose.
2006-09-08 21:29:40
477.   StolenMonkey86
I just got back from Baltimore, saw them crush the Yankees. Too bad I didn't get to see Kuo's start, although I'm sure I'll get another opportunity.
2006-09-08 21:35:36
478.   Bob Timmermann
Actually, you can read the NY Times story now:
http://tinyurl.com/rbgs9
2006-09-08 21:42:00
479.   Bluebleeder87
before reading it, i'm sure there is some biased in there. maybe i'm wrong.
2006-09-08 21:45:52
480.   Nagman
Leadoff man on for the Gutty Little Padres. Giants have to squash this right now. Ahh, Piazza K's, much better.
2006-09-08 21:48:27
481.   Bluebleeder87
478

they sound like me when we loose, Kuo was throwing 97 MPH & for a left hander that is really good but no.....

give some props to a guy that throws 94+ & is left handed & makes you're guys look like fools.

2006-09-08 21:50:23
482.   JoeyP
The Giants have a super easy schedule down the stretch. They have 13 games left with the Rockies/Brewers/DBax. I guess they really cant be counted out of it yet.

It might be best two of (Dodgers/Pads/Giants) that make the playoffs.

2006-09-08 21:54:03
483.   Bluebleeder87
482

JoyP is on a mission to be famous one way or another. :o)

2006-09-08 21:55:08
484.   Bluebleeder87
one more thought, the Padres must have seen our game, i'm sure they were "imprest" by Kuo
2006-09-08 22:04:10
485.   Gagne55
455 No, I don't think they'll pull Penny no matter how bad he pitches.
2006-09-08 22:10:15
486.   Bluebleeder87
485

if Penny studies hitters better look out.

2006-09-08 22:15:58
487.   GoBears
With all due respect to the Philosopher King, I can assure you that if any Giants pitcher gets to within nine outs of a no-hitter, my post will look a little something like this:

Hey! No Hitter going on! That Giants pitcher, he's throwing a no-hitter! He hasn't given up a hit! Not a single one! No hits! Can you believe it!

Sorry, but some rules are made to be broken.

With all due respect to your right to dislike Jon's take on the no-hitter jinx thing, this is his site. You can jinx all you want somewhere else. Jon really doesn't ask for much.

2006-09-08 22:19:05
488.   Bluebleeder87
i'm not a good speller but the Martin vs LoDuca thing was a good "game with in the game" for me.
2006-09-08 22:20:21
489.   GoBears
Aw, never mind 487. A little more thought suggests that my irony meter was malfunctioning. You were just making a point about your dislike of the Giants. You wouldn't go out of your way to thumb your nose at our host.

My sheepish apologies.

2006-09-08 22:23:37
490.   Bluebleeder87
487

i don't know if you're talking about me jixing the hated ones, but i know Jon is within my age rage to dislike the Giants so i'm pretty sure you're not talking about me.

2006-09-08 22:28:41
491.   Bluebleeder87
487

plus i've read alot of his old thoughts to know he truly bleeds blue.

2006-09-08 22:40:37
492.   GoBears
No, it was directed to Greg Brock, in 463. I figured the long quote from his comment would give it away.
2006-09-08 23:20:10
493.   Dodgerthoughts1
so any thoughts on NY writers saying the Met's were not any good, while we all know that Kuo throwing strikes is un hitable.
2006-09-09 00:34:26
494.   Bluebleeder87
L.A Times thinks humans are really stupid, i'm confinced of that, please see there thoughts yesterday. also see Jons thoughts yesterday. the "mass" media thinks humans are stupid.
2006-09-09 05:00:51
495.   Andrew Shimmin
475- Laughing out loud. Which makes me a little ashamed of myself. But there you go.
2006-09-09 05:45:18
496.   bill cox
447-Nate,No haven't seen Meloan pitch.He's pitched out of the bullpen all year though hasn't he?He's from the Uof A isn't he?Think anyone from Jacksonville will get a call up when the playoffs end like Mark Alexander?
2006-09-09 07:39:10
497.   Eric Enders
Hopefully Meloan turns out better than the last pitcher we drafted high from U of A -- the immortal Ben Diggins.
2006-09-09 07:50:16
498.   bhsportsguy
Today's lineup is posted, its been a month since a 10:00 a.m. PDT start, on the otherhand, clears the afternoon and evening for college football.

Today we are back to what I call Lineup A, the preferred Grady lineup.

Furcal, SS
Lofton, CF
Garciaparra, 1B
Drew, RF
Kent, 2B
Ethier, LF
Betemit, 3B
Martin, C
Maddux, P

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