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It Was 40 Years Ago Today ... Dodger Stadium Got the Beatles To Play
2006-08-28 17:00
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Tom Hoffarth of the Daily News revisits the Beatles' penultimate concert, which took place 40 years ago at Dodger Stadium. Good pics and links to be found. (Inside the Dodgers came across this sooner than I did.)

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Tonight's Game

Comments (436)
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2006-08-28 17:12:12
1.   thinkingblue
Listening to the youtube video, you can barely hear the band, but the crowd is heard well.
2006-08-28 17:15:46
2.   overkill94
They only had one concert appearance after 1966? Man, I knew they became more of a studio band starting with Revolver, but I didn't realize they just stopped playing altogether.
2006-08-28 17:21:02
3.   Bluebleeder87
yelling & screaming never goes out of style.
2006-08-28 17:22:01
4.   Eric Enders
I didn't even know there was a YouTube video. Very cool even though the quality is lousy.

This was actually the Beatles' third-to-last concert as they played Candlestick the next night and then re-emerged for the famous rooftop concert in January 1969. (I was given a very cool bootleg DVD of that show for Christmas a few years ago.)

This site has the following to say about the Dodger Stadium show:
http://www.beatles-discography.com/1966.html

"28th: The Beatles played a gig to 45,000 at the Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles. Their limo had to turn back after the kids started clambering all over it, and the police had to beat them back with batons. One paper reported: "The Beatles fled to offices under the grandstand as crowds charged the entrance gates. Time and again, police were forced to hit out with their clubs, to keep the fans off the gates. Youths then charged the wooden barricades which had been set up to keep the crowds back. They hurled sticks and bottles at police until they were finally turned away with a shoulder charge by officers who cleared a sort of no-man's land between the crowds and the exit gates. Meanwhile, The Beatles, who were virtually imprisoned beneath the grandstand by fans stampeding from one spot to another, made good their escape by armoured car at the opposite end of the stadium."

2006-08-28 17:23:45
5.   Bluebleeder87
just hearing the words KRLA brings back memories of there jingle/coming back from commercials song.
2006-08-28 17:25:47
6.   Borchard504
Excellent look back by Hoffarth - I was older than him, by one year - our Mom's had us home, watching the Lone Ranger, or something like that.
2006-08-28 17:27:29
7.   Xeifrank
So... how about those Dodgers? vr, Xei
2006-08-28 17:29:13
8.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Sad that concerts like these drove the band out of the public eye. Beatlemania, sure, but give it a rest, girls, and go siddown in your seats.
2006-08-28 17:29:44
9.   Bob Timmermann
7
So you don't like TV, movies, OR popular music?

I never knew Xeifrank was Amish.

2006-08-28 17:31:14
10.   Blu2
9 Maybe he thought this was a baseball blog...
2006-08-28 17:33:14
11.   trainwreck
It will be a great change of pace to see our lefty starter throwing in the mid 90s.
2006-08-28 17:36:38
12.   Bluebleeder87
trainwreck just made me think of something, you think Kuo will have the same MPH starting? i doubt it maybe 88-92 is my guess. He hides the ball/batters don't see it very well of his motion so i'm not concerned.
2006-08-28 17:36:53
13.   Xeifrank
9. TV? Nope, not really. Sports, news, kids shows (for my 2 yr old)... not much else worth watching. Movies? Yuck, nothing good coming out of Hollywood these days. Popular music? There are still good music artists out there, just not as many as before but atleast compared to the TV and Movie business popular music already clinched first place in that three team division.

10. Yeah, I come here for my baseball fix, not my emmy, tv chat, movie chat, music chat or tv female fixation chat. I don't mind Bob's cat chat though. :) vr, Xei

2006-08-28 17:37:52
14.   Borchard504
McCartney had a mean left..
2006-08-28 17:41:09
15.   thinkblue0
Is Kuo starting tonight?
2006-08-28 17:46:54
16.   the OZ
Think they'll play "Penny Lane" before Brad's at-bats at the Stadium tonight? I'm off to find out. Enjoy the game, all.
2006-08-28 17:47:21
17.   Bluebleeder87
Kou is rumored to start against the heavily lefted handed Rockies.
2006-08-28 17:51:06
18.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 15

No, but there seems to be some thought in the organization that he may start this weekend against Colorado.

I'd certainly prefer him over Hendrickson.

WWSH

2006-08-28 17:52:30
19.   Vishal
i wonder how the dodger stadium concert compares to the last one the next night at candlestick...
2006-08-28 17:57:07
20.   Bluebleeder87
19

for some reason i'm thinking it was even crazier.

2006-08-28 17:58:48
21.   Gagne55
18 Kuo is going to start for the Dodgers? I thought he'd be called up at the expansion to be a reliever (even though he can't relieve) because the rotation is packed.
2006-08-28 18:00:59
22.   natepurcell
dodger power hitting prospect alert!

Josh Bell

19 yrs old in the pioneer league, switch hitter and tried to play 3b but most likely will have to move across the diamond or to left field.

202AB 12hr 21bb 61k 297/364/579

He could be a good breakout pick for next year depending on if he can cut down his k rate. gotta love the power and switch hitting abilities though.

2006-08-28 18:01:50
23.   Andrew Shimmin
16- Or I Am the Walrus, before Martin's?
2006-08-28 18:02:57
24.   thinkblue0
18-

Couldn't agree more. I've been so out of the loop this week.

2006-08-28 18:15:13
25.   Clive Clements
19 Yeah, you don't really hear about this one much. I remember they showed some bootleg footage of the Dodger Stadium show on the news right after the original Anthology airings. I've heard the Candlestick Park show and thought it was pretty good. I'm always amazed at how they were able to play without studio monitors and with all the screaming girls.

As for hearing/seeing what they sounded like without as many screams, there's some pretty good pro-shot footage on youtube from the 1966 tour in Germany. "Nowhere Man" sounded really good from what I remember. And the Budokan shows are on there too (including a full band version of "Yesterday" that I'd never known existed).

2006-08-28 18:16:31
26.   Linkmeister
2 Jon's title has a lot to do with why they stopped playing live; their few remaining albums got way too complex for live gigs.
2006-08-28 18:17:29
27.   Bluebleeder87
22

wow Logan White & his staff just keeps pulling rabbits out of there hats, great news. thanks Nate.

2006-08-28 18:24:11
28.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 21

That seemed to be original plan, but Gurnick in the most recent Dodgers mailbag indicated the organization is seriously thinking about Kuo starting.

Grady's been pretty flexible in general, so maybe he talked to Colletti about alternatives to Hendrickson, who's been obviously inconsistent. Or perhaps the front office staff decided to really mull the issue over.

WWSH

2006-08-28 18:27:52
29.   Gen3Blue
I had forgotten this peaking of the live Beatles on the west coast, having observed their penultimate appearance( sort of) at Shea.
Has Kuo been called up or is this some levity on the part of some humorous posters?
2006-08-28 18:28:02
30.   D4P
Lugo back in the lineup again tonight!
2006-08-28 18:29:01
31.   trainwreck
Kuo is getting called up on Friday when rosters expand.
2006-08-28 18:29:23
32.   Gen3Blue
Does anyone have the lineup yet?
2006-08-28 18:29:23
33.   Uncle Miltie
From Inside the Dodgers
Furcal, SS
Lofton, CF
Lugo, 3B
Nomar, 1B
Kent, 2B
Ethier, LF
Martin, C
Repko, CF
Penny, P

I guess Lofton is so bad defensively that Repko has to play CF and RF.

2006-08-28 18:30:17
34.   Gen3Blue
UM look at the time of those two posts. Is that split second timing or what?
2006-08-28 18:32:06
35.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
If anyone's curious, here's how Kuo did in his last start on the 27th:

Kuo 3.0 IP 1 H 1 R 1 ER 1 BB 5 K 1 HR

44 pitches. 28 strikes

WWSH

2006-08-28 18:34:25
36.   Uncle Miltie
34- that wasn't a coincidence ;)
2006-08-28 18:38:21
37.   Bluebleeder87
Kuo 3.0 IP 1 H 1 R 1 ER 1 BB 5 K 1 HR

reading his line just makes me all the more gitty about his call up.

2006-08-28 18:38:36
38.   D4P
Miltie - Why has UofO become your top choice...?
2006-08-28 18:38:52
39.   JoeyP
If the Marlins didnt have to play the Cards/Mets 10 more times, I'd think they'd have a good chance at the WC.

Inspite of Girardi, their starting pitching still might be good enough to pull them through.

2006-08-28 18:43:06
40.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
The way the pitching schedule works, it strikes me that Kuo starting would be unlikely. With Bills pitching well, I guess the rotation could possibly be the following:

S Bills
M Penny
T Hendrickson
W Maddux
T Off
F Lowe
S Bills
S Kuo
M Penny

I'd be surprised if we moved back Penny's start for Kuo's sake, though. And Bills has just pitched too well as of late, although perhaps there are concerns about his workload. The most sensible thing would be to have Kuo take Hendrickson's place in the rotation, but with the off day, he wouldn't be in line to start this weekend anyhow.

Anyhow, I guess we'll see what happens.

WWSH

2006-08-28 18:45:08
41.   Uncle Miltie
38- the Sports Marketing program and the connections with Nike through the school. Even if I don't get into that program, I can still take Sports Marketing classes. Hopefully, I can pull my grades up because my 2.9 gpa is the minimum required. I'm doing some volunteer work so that should help and I'm a good writer, but getting my grades up will be the key to being admitted there. I have a friend who goes there and she loves it there.
2006-08-28 18:45:17
42.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Even if Kuo can't pitch this weekend, though, I really hope that org. thinks about him replacing Hendrickson anyways.

As far as I can tell, Grittle's pretty seat-of-the-pants, so he might just do that after the call-up.

WWSH

2006-08-28 18:46:06
43.   Bob Timmermann
I won't put the Marlins in the "contender" category until their chances according to BPro get over 10%.
2006-08-28 18:48:25
44.   JoeyP
Hollandsworth is in LF tonite, in place of Adam Dunn.

When you've scored 2 runs in your last 27IP, not sure benching your best power guy is the right way to go.

2006-08-28 18:49:45
45.   D4P
41
Have you visited there yet? If you end up going there, you have to promise you won't skate in the breezeway under Gilbert Hall. The skaters there used to drive me crazy! So loud!
2006-08-28 18:53:36
46.   Marty
I mentioned this in the last thread...My brother and sister went to that Beatles' concert. My mother waited out in the parking lot for them. I was too young to go according to her. My brother said afterward he barely heard them the whole show because of the screaming.
2006-08-28 18:54:41
47.   Bluebleeder87
i was looking at our triple-A #"s & James Loney's batting avg. just jumps out at you, very consistent at:
Season Totals .376 95 354 60 133 32 2 8 62 31 33 9 4 .423 .545 .969
2006-08-28 18:58:34
48.   natepurcell
Laroche was taken out of the vegas game after one AB.
2006-08-28 19:01:52
49.   Bluebleeder87
48

any details on why?

2006-08-28 19:06:40
50.   Andrew Shimmin
47- When you post numbers, could you label them? I can figure out the BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS, but the rest sort of run together.
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2006-08-28 19:08:42
51.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 48 49

LaRoche seems to have been banged up quite a bit this season, although none of the injuries seem to have been truly serious. I hope this latest one is the same.

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:10:24
52.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
It's only 182 ABs, but Ross is OPSing 1028. If he could've done that after "The Trade," then DePo might have survived the media firestorm over giving up LoDuca.

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:10:42
53.   Bluebleeder87
shut LaRouche down for a couple of days.
2006-08-28 19:12:27
54.   Bluebleeder87
50 47- When you post numbers, could you label them?

message to self...

2006-08-28 19:13:54
55.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
If Penny keeps this up, I'd rather Kuo than he pitch this weekend.

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:14:02
56.   Bluebleeder87
ball four to walk Freel, some of the pitches to Freel looked pretty close but i'm a dodger fan so...
2006-08-28 19:14:34
57.   Andrew Shimmin
54- Thanks.
2006-08-28 19:16:01
58.   Bluebleeder87
Penny's velocity looks pretty good, he's topping out at 96MPH.
2006-08-28 19:16:16
59.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Aurilia has an OPS of 853. Wow--downright shocking.

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:16:33
60.   Gen3Blue
I'm back. Penny' better off not thinking about his emotions.
Whats up with Laroche?
2006-08-28 19:17:22
61.   Gen3Blue
Penny should concentrate on throwing strikes and not another thought.
2006-08-28 19:17:33
62.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Gameday had strike 3 literally on the corner.

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:19:47
63.   Bluebleeder87
62

it was, you should have seen it, it was beautiful.

2006-08-28 19:21:09
64.   Bluebleeder87
luckly Penny get's out of it un scaved.
2006-08-28 19:21:13
65.   Disabled List
Glad to see the Reds are still impotent with RISP. That was a nice job of pitching by Penny there.
2006-08-28 19:21:45
66.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
RE: 63

Stupid DirecTV doesn't have the game today.

Good for Penny to get out of the inning unscathed--I was worried he'd fall apart.

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:26:48
67.   Disabled List
Did I hear Vin right? Michalak's fastball doesn't even reach 80?

We shoul be teeing off on this guy, good change-up or no.

2006-08-28 19:27:05
68.   Sam DC
I'll admit, I didn't know that Erik Hinske played centerfield for the Boston Red Sox.
2006-08-28 19:28:06
69.   Bluebleeder87
3 down it's just a matter of time for the Dodgers to figure out the Reds pitcher, wow the guy's fastball tops out at 81MPH.
2006-08-28 19:28:18
70.   Bob Timmermann
Hinske is in right field for Boston.
2006-08-28 19:29:05
71.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 69

Nomar will probably tee off on this guy.

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:29:19
72.   Bob Timmermann
Michalak has some black ink in his career record.

He led the AL in balks in 2001 with 6.

2006-08-28 19:29:37
73.   Bluebleeder87
67

his fastball on the fox/prime gun tops out at 81MPH.

2006-08-28 19:30:10
74.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 70

He actually made a very nice running catch on a hard hit ball from Bradley.

Bradley's numbers look pretty good--of course, the real question is whether or not he can stay healthy.

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:32:26
75.   Bluebleeder87
old friend Tod Hollensworth at the bat.
2006-08-28 19:33:20
76.   Sam DC
70 I'll admit, I know even less than I think I know.

I'll say this, though. My family was much less intrigued by the existence of Timmerman (sorry, just one n) Airport in Milwaukee than I was. Suggestions that we stop for a visit were, perhaps unsurprisingly, laughed off.

2006-08-28 19:33:34
77.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Should we call someone like Aurilia an "Old Foe"?

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:34:22
78.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Just when I thought Penny was settling down, he walks another batter.

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:34:33
79.   Mark Joseph
Is Rich Aurilia's erstwhile job as a stagehand (courtest of Vin) for the Metropolitan Opera the best blurb of that type since Richie Hebner's off-season job as a gravedigger?
2006-08-28 19:36:37
80.   Berkeley Doug
Meanwhile in AZ, AZ leading SD 4-1 in the 3rd after back to back HRs from Byrnes and Estrada.
2006-08-28 19:36:40
81.   Bob Timmermann
4-1 Dbacks.
2006-08-28 19:37:01
82.   Bluebleeder87
wow, that was a great DP!!
2006-08-28 19:37:07
83.   Bob Timmermann
I was called for a 3-second violation there.
2006-08-28 19:38:20
84.   Bluebleeder87
i'm rooting for the D-backs.
2006-08-28 19:38:52
85.   Berkeley Doug
83 You can't be camping out in the lane. :)
2006-08-28 19:41:19
86.   Bluebleeder87
i'm thinking Ethier is gonna it the reds pitcher alive!
2006-08-28 19:45:40
87.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Groan. What exactly happened with Kent?

WWSH

2006-08-28 19:45:57
88.   Bluebleeder87
i guess the Reds pitcher has a good pick-off mood.
2006-08-28 19:46:39
89.   Bluebleeder87
that HR by Russell Martin should have been a 3 run dinger.
2006-08-28 19:46:41
90.   Andrew Shimmin
87- Picked off. He was able to make them look like jerks, so it wasn't a total loss. But, not, you know, great. Not like my man Russ!
2006-08-28 19:47:15
91.   Gen3Blue
Geez, most of these Reds can hit. You would think a few x D's who could never hit for average would help. But isn't this Ross who is hitting 280 our old catcher David? Incredable--this is one guy I was afraid would never hit!
Looking at Michalak's stats, we may be stunned to be so bad given the breaks we've had. Do our trainers know how to treat shock?
Thank you Martin. You are one of the few we can count on.
2006-08-28 19:47:21
92.   Bluebleeder87
87

it was a pretty good pick off move sorry about the typo.

2006-08-28 19:50:30
93.   Bluebleeder87
Vinnie said Martin took extra batting practice today, but if you don't hit that ball Michalak threw to Martin (it was on a T)
2006-08-28 19:52:27
94.   Uncle Miltie
D4P- I'm not going to visit Oregon unless I get in. Are there any other colleges that you think I should apply to besides Chico, UofA, ASU, and Oregon? The school has to have a pretty good business program.
2006-08-28 19:53:01
95.   Bluebleeder87
Man Furcal threw a beebe (sp?)to Nomar.
2006-08-28 19:53:27
96.   Bob Timmermann
The Reds have an OPS of 832 at home, but just 749 on the road.
2006-08-28 19:55:57
97.   Gen3Blue
Ah Russell Martin and Ethier. It feels like a dream to think of a future line-up including Martin, Ethier, Loney, Kemp, Laroche, Furcal, and maybe Young and Dewitt. And it will cost practically nothing. It is so good that you fear someone must screw it up.
2006-08-28 19:56:30
98.   Bluebleeder87
Penny is strugling with his control
2006-08-28 19:56:47
99.   JKB
Amazing, walks the pitcher. One walk per inning, Penny.
2006-08-28 19:56:53
100.   natepurcell
penny and billingsley have switched bodies.
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2006-08-28 19:57:38
101.   D4P
94
I don't know anything about business programs, other than that they breed capitalists... ;-)
2006-08-28 19:57:40
102.   Bluebleeder87
i'm hoping for a DP.
2006-08-28 19:58:53
103.   Disabled List
At least Brad makes sure to take the count full before throwing ball 4.

His head is gonna explode when Grady takes him out of the game before the fifth inning, because he's already thrown 300 pitches.

2006-08-28 19:59:28
104.   Bluebleeder87
Penny is really really strugling.
2006-08-28 19:59:32
105.   cdbavg400
94
You know, USC (my current school) has a decent business program. Though I wouldn't know much details about it.
2006-08-28 19:59:43
106.   Gen3Blue
Jeez, Penny has to stop thinking and throw strikes. Pull him now.
2006-08-28 20:00:41
107.   ddger
From now on, Penny's strike zone is going to get smaller unless he can start controlling his emotions.
2006-08-28 20:00:41
108.   JKB
He's not even close. Someone run out and calm him down.
2006-08-28 20:01:42
109.   Gen3Blue
That was a strike--he's been screwed and he won't recover. Never mind
2006-08-28 20:01:47
110.   Bluebleeder87
talk about a room service DP.
2006-08-28 20:02:48
111.   Rob M
Wow. I can't believe he got out of that. If he get's it together and goes 5 or 6 and gets a win, I'll be pretty impressed with Penny's mettle.
2006-08-28 20:03:09
112.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Nice DP, but Penny needs to talk to Bills about throwing strikes.

WWSH

2006-08-28 20:03:29
113.   JKB
It's a miracle!
2006-08-28 20:03:34
114.   Uncle Miltie
Penny is trying to pull an AJ Burnett

shhhhh!

2006-08-28 20:03:59
115.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
I just hope we get a whole mess of runs. Saito could use the day off.

WWSH

2006-08-28 20:04:55
116.   Bluebleeder87
Bill Buckner sighting! he's sitting with Tommy.
2006-08-28 20:07:39
117.   Gen3Blue
WWSH I hope the same thing. But realistically he would have a much better chance getting a case of 24 hour food poisoning.
2006-08-28 20:08:12
118.   das411
Yo Xei, if you only see one movie this year, make sure it is "Invincible"!

...Snakes on a Plane can be #2 ;)

114 - what's that? Something to do with 9 innings, 9 walks, and no....runs?

2006-08-28 20:09:12
119.   Gen3Blue
Wow, are we really gone, on about 10 pitches?
2006-08-28 20:09:43
120.   D4P
In tennis news, Andre Agassi is playing what may prove to be the final match of his storied career
2006-08-28 20:09:50
121.   Nagman
There is a cycle alert in Arizona... I don't know my colors/levels, but Byrnes needs the most elusive piece.
2006-08-28 20:11:08
122.   Bluebleeder87
today's Afflack trivia question is to darn easy

Eric Karros
Mike Piazza
Raul Mondesi
Hideo Nomo

ps they gave us Tod Hollensworth to start.

2006-08-28 20:12:21
123.   Bob Timmermann
It's Condition Orange for the Cycle Alert when you need a triple.

However, Byrnes is playing in one of the best parks for triples.

2006-08-28 20:12:24
124.   Disabled List
How much longer can the Reds go without a hit with RISP? I wouldn't mind another 0-3 here.
2006-08-28 20:14:19
125.   Bob Timmermann
Well, there's a hit with RISP.
2006-08-28 20:14:37
126.   Gen3Blue
Looking at the trivia question, I found Hollings problem.--it appears he could never hit a left hander--yes?
2006-08-28 20:15:23
127.   Bluebleeder87
that ball that Aurilia hit was kind of in no mans land.
2006-08-28 20:15:53
128.   ddger
As long as Reds don't score they can get hits with RISP anytime.
2006-08-28 20:17:17
129.   ddger
Now an out scores a run.
2006-08-28 20:17:42
130.   ddger
Penny's luck finally ran out.
2006-08-28 20:17:54
131.   Bob Timmermann
Sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy about lefties with Hollandsworth. He has over 6 times as many PAs against RHP as LHP.
2006-08-28 20:18:13
132.   Bluebleeder87
2-1 Dodgers, i'm thinking will score more runs i'm not to worried.
2006-08-28 20:19:05
133.   ddger
I don't think Penny's going to last more than 5 if that long.
2006-08-28 20:19:42
134.   Disabled List
I don't think Penny is gonna be giving the bullpen a lot of rest tonight.

It really is like watching pre-All-Star break Chad Billingsley.

2006-08-28 20:19:50
135.   Bluebleeder87
for some reason i'm hoping Penny throws David Ross more fastballs than curves.
2006-08-28 20:22:11
136.   Gen3Blue
This is ugly. We have been very lucky to get 2 runs on only three hits. And Penny has been very lucky only giving 1 run on 5 walks. Can this continue our way--I hope so---but I doubt it.
2006-08-28 20:22:46
137.   Bluebleeder87
was that a DP?? Bob?
2006-08-28 20:22:52
138.   Bob Timmermann
Ah the old K-CS-DP 2-6-2-5
2006-08-28 20:23:08
139.   Gen3Blue
Almost lossed Holl at third!
2006-08-28 20:23:20
140.   Sam DC
So I have good seats to go to the Orioles Red Sox game on September 14. Are the Sox going to still be contenders by then?
2006-08-28 20:23:20
141.   Disabled List
I have no idea what the Reds were doing there.
2006-08-28 20:25:32
142.   JKB
Heaven above, another miracle. 85 pitches.
2006-08-28 20:25:33
143.   Bob Timmermann
Still Condition Orange for the cycle in Arizona. Byrnes had another double. It's 7-1 Dbacks, who unlike the Dodgers, didn't think much of Woody Williams.
2006-08-28 20:26:13
144.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Nice job by Penny to duck, and avoid Furcal taking off his head with the ball.
2006-08-28 20:26:59
145.   Bob Timmermann
Sam,
Whether or not the Red Sox are contenders was a question I could not answer today.

https://griddle.baseballtoaster.com/archives/489370.html

2006-08-28 20:27:00
146.   Mark Joseph
140

They're not contenders now. Deader than Julius Caesar, as Charlie put it last night.

2006-08-28 20:27:35
147.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Chris Michalak's photo on Gameday makes him look like a small woodland animal.
2006-08-28 20:28:48
148.   Bluebleeder87
2-1 Dodgers, i'm thinking will score more runs i'm not to worried.

told you.

2006-08-28 20:28:54
149.   JKB
Way to go, Kent!
2006-08-28 20:29:41
150.   JKB
3.5!
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2006-08-28 20:30:23
151.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Vin just descriped Tom Hume's pitching with the Reds as "wonderful."
Hume was good, but wonderful? I beg to differ.
2006-08-28 20:31:48
152.   Bob Timmermann
Hume wasn't bad in 1979 and 1980.
2006-08-28 20:32:27
153.   Gen3Blue
We better try to get some runs off this "unhittable" guy.
I'm no expert, and I can see this pitcher has absolutely nothing, but some change of speed. Someone said we were only hitting fastballs and they could be right' despite these hits.
Never mind.
2006-08-28 20:33:00
154.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
152 - True. He did lead the NL in ERA+ in '79.
2006-08-28 20:34:03
155.   Bluebleeder87
i rocked! today on the Afflack trivia question.
2006-08-28 20:34:21
156.   Bob Timmermann
Home run Russell Branyan!

That makes it 7-2 DBacks.

2006-08-28 20:35:11
157.   regfairfield
I guess there was a reason I never heard of Chris Michalak.
2006-08-28 20:36:10
158.   Berkeley Doug
What is the score in the Agassi match?
2006-08-28 20:36:28
159.   Bluebleeder87
Nice inning for the Dodgers, let's hope Penny dose his part.
2006-08-28 20:36:36
160.   Bob Timmermann
157
And you call yourself a baseball fan!

How can you forget the AL leader in balks from one year?

2006-08-28 20:36:58
161.   ddger
Now, Penny needs to get his act together and give us a quality start for a change.
2006-08-28 20:37:32
162.   Berkeley Doug
Nevermind. Found it online.
2006-08-28 20:37:34
163.   Nagman
Let's hope Penny can get thru 5 and get his W. I don't want to see any more um, "behavior".
2006-08-28 20:37:50
164.   Bob Timmermann
They aren't wasting time in Seattle. They're in the bottom of the 7th and that game started five minutes before the Dodgers game.

Hernandez has thrown just 68 pitches in seven innings.

2006-08-28 20:38:28
165.   Blu2
I like Eric Byrnes but I have to laugh every time I see him. Does he look 'funny' to anyone else? He appears to be awkward and clumsy but obviously he isn't. And he looks to have an enormous upper body and tiny little legs. Does anyone else see him that way?
2006-08-28 20:42:50
166.   Sam DC
Well, the people I'm going with sure don't think the Red Sox are dead!

Anyone watching/listening/at the game able to give a Beatles music report?

2006-08-28 20:43:02
167.   Bluebleeder87
165

he can name all the american presidents though.

2006-08-28 20:44:28
168.   Andrew Shimmin
165- I think he's dreamy.
2006-08-28 20:46:01
169.   s choir
I like how Steiner pronounces the Reds' third baseman's name: Enconarcion
2006-08-28 20:46:14
170.   Gen3Blue
165 Let me get one more look at him. LOL

161 I thinks it too late tonight, but I'm hoping next time.

2006-08-28 20:46:25
171.   Bluebleeder87
i guess the scouting report says to throw Encarnacion fastballs on the outside corner.
2006-08-28 20:46:30
172.   Bob Timmermann
The real measure of a person who knows his presidents can name them if a number between 1 and 43 is picked at random and then name the corresponding president.

You could grab me on the street and yell "Hey Timmermann, 19!"
And I would say "Rutherford Hayes!"

2006-08-28 20:47:27
173.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Am I wrong to think MLB.tv's new between-innings music is groovy?
2006-08-28 20:48:47
174.   Bluebleeder87
I like how Steiner pronounces the Reds' third baseman's name: Enconarcion

it seems like ESPN breeds there announcers that way.

2006-08-28 20:50:55
175.   Bluebleeder87
*You could grab me on the street and yell "Hey Timmermann, 19!"
And I would say "Rutherford Hayes!"*

show off.

2006-08-28 20:51:33
176.   King of the Hobos
Ryan Ketchner has been promoted to Vegas, but he has had a rather tough debut. More impressive than Houlton tonight, but nothing special: 2 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 40 pitches.
2006-08-28 20:52:13
177.   D4P
Steiner's butchering of the name "Encarnacion" is legendary
2006-08-28 20:52:28
178.   ddger
163 Going only 5 innings seems like a cheap way to pick up a win. Maybe, they can come up with 1/2 a win if you only go 5. :)
2006-08-28 20:52:47
179.   Andrew Shimmin
Lugo was lucky that throw got away; it beat him.
2006-08-28 20:53:14
180.   Uncle Miltie
Does this mean McCain is going to run for president in 2008?

http://tinyurl.com/ntgfo

Some rules/male dress code at BJU
-Students may not listen to Country, Jazz, New Age, Rock, Rap, or Contemporary Christian music.
-DVD/VCRs are not allowed in residence halls; DVD players on computers cannot be used for watching films. Televisions may be used only as monitors to play video games.
My Favorite Rule
-Students are forbidden to attend movie theaters or, when visiting local homes, to watch any films with a rating higher than a G rating. Residence hall students are not permitted to play, use, or own video games that are rated T, M, or Ao or that include profanity, sensual or suggestive dress, rock music, graphic violence, or demonic themes.

-Each student is provided with a filtered e-mail account. Using unfiltered Internet access via computer, mobile phone, or satellite phone is prohibited for residence hall students.

-Men's hair must be traditionally styled with a conservative cut. Hair must not be colored, highlighted, shaved, shelved, tangled or spiked. Sideburns may not reach past the lower opening of the ear. No facial hair is permitted; students must be clean shaven.
-Socks are required at all times.

2006-08-28 20:54:16
181.   Bluebleeder87
i'd like more runs here, just to make sure.
2006-08-28 20:56:34
182.   Bluebleeder87
179

yeah, that throw had him beat.

2006-08-28 20:56:45
183.   JoeyP
What is wrong with Penny?
2006-08-28 20:57:01
184.   Disabled List
173 I'm still trying to figure out the occasional Tom Petty appearance.

Not that I mind, of course... his new album is pretty good.

2006-08-28 20:57:13
185.   Andrew Shimmin
There used to be (maybe still is, I've forgotten the user name) a commenter here who went to Bob Jones.
2006-08-28 20:57:26
186.   D4P
Penny sure throws a lot of pitches
2006-08-28 20:58:09
187.   Gen3Blue
We should have done more with that Franklin,frankly, but maybe we can get him next inning. I'm afraid 4 isn't going to be enough tonight.
2006-08-28 20:58:17
188.   natepurcell
183

hes turned into billingsley pre all star break.

2006-08-28 20:58:52
189.   Bluebleeder87
180

wow

2006-08-28 20:59:02
190.   Fallout
I can't see or hear the game but I see that Penny has thrown his 100 pitches in 5 innings. Is it five and bye?
2006-08-28 20:59:46
191.   D4P
I can only assume that Penny does not like the taste of innings
2006-08-28 21:00:23
192.   Bluebleeder87
190

Penny made to many pitches, so yeah.

2006-08-28 21:00:34
193.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 180

At the Naval Academy, where McCain's son is currently a student, IIRC, all plebes (i.e. freshmen) are prohibited from playing all video games when on the Yard during the academic year. In fact, they may only be allowed to play video games when on leave outside of a 20-some-odd mile radius of campus.

We don't have these sorts of movie restrictions, though.

To everyone their own, I suppose.

WWSH

2006-08-28 21:00:53
194.   ddger
Let's hope Penny can turn it around like Billingsley did. Billingsley is carrying the Dodgers right now while their ace Penny is pitching like a 5th starter lately.
2006-08-28 21:00:55
195.   s choir
Beimel has quietly put together a very nice season.
2006-08-28 21:01:06
196.   Bob Timmermann
All over in Seattle. Mariners beat an AL West team!

Time of game: 1:51
Channel 13 has a lot of time to fill now.

2006-08-28 21:01:25
197.   JoeyP
Penny's hasnt been the same since he air'ed it out at the All Star Game (results wise). I hope he didnt hurt his arm in that exhibition.
2006-08-28 21:02:12
198.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 193

USNA has roughly the same grooming rules, though.

WWSH

2006-08-28 21:02:24
199.   Sam DC
Byrnes up in AZ.
2006-08-28 21:03:12
200.   Gen3Blue
Earlier in the year Penny could put most of his pitches over the plate and he has enough zing and stuff so that works. I was hoping if he learned a bit of pitching he would be super dominant.
But I'm afraid he may have to get back and learn how to plate it again. His arm still seems fine, at least.
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2006-08-28 21:03:26
201.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
I guess the problem is that Penny was never a true no. 1. A good no. 2, but never a true ace. I think we have to hope that Bills can soon fill that role.

WWSH

2006-08-28 21:03:40
202.   King of the Hobos
Full count for Byrnes.
2006-08-28 21:04:04
203.   Terry A
I spent my first year of college at a small, private university in the South that held many of those same rules. The media restrictions weren't quite so severe, but they were implied. The college so thoroughly controlled the small town that it managed to have MTV, VH1, and a couple other "immoral" channels removed from the cable lineup.

What passed for fun? Sneaking out of the dorms after the strict eleven o'clock curfew to hit the nearby Waffle House.

This is, by the way, the same university that thought it was a great idea to encourage their conservative Christian donor base by bringing in the always inspirational Ann Coulter. (They finally caved to public pressure and canceled her appearance.)

2006-08-28 21:04:30
204.   ddger
197 Penny's velocity is still in the 96 to 98 in his last 2 starts so I don't think his arm is hurt. His control and command is terrible and he's completely relying on his fastball instead of changing speeds more often. It looks like Maddux hasn't had any positive effect on Penny.
2006-08-28 21:04:36
205.   King of the Hobos
And Byrnes swings at strike 3.
2006-08-28 21:04:43
206.   Bob Timmermann
Cycle Alert cancelled in Arizona. Byrnes strikes out to end the 8th.
2006-08-28 21:04:47
207.   s choir
195 I am knocking on wood right now.
2006-08-28 21:05:07
208.   Sushirabbit
Sam, Eric, and anyone interested, I put the answer to my imdb-keyword-list in the last thread.

I'm going to call the commisioner's office tomorrow and complain about MLB extra innings. I'm sure it will be a useless exercise. Maybe I'll call DirecTV, as well, but it just seems ridiculous not to be able to watch the games I want to. Maybe MLB.TV will be high enough quality. But then you don't get Vin with that, do you?

2006-08-28 21:05:36
209.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Considering Ross' power numbers, I'm really quite worried right now.

WWSH

2006-08-28 21:05:38
210.   Gen3Blue
Oh man--the power collective David Ross.
End of R.
2006-08-28 21:08:02
211.   JoeyP
Reds have mustered 3 runs scored in their last 33 innings.

I suspect tomorrow will be their regression game against Hendrickson.

2006-08-28 21:08:30
212.   Fallout
194 ddger

I think that you have said more there than you realize. Penny hasn't grown much as a pitcher(and maybe not emotionally too) over his career. I think he needs another pitch to become more consistently good.

2006-08-28 21:10:32
213.   Bluebleeder87
that was a seeing eye single my Martin.
2006-08-28 21:10:47
214.   Gen3Blue
I finally found the answer to the question"what is the worst thing that could happen to a man"
The answer. "To wake up and find himself married to Anne Coulter." A definite wrist slitter.
Sorry, that is awful, going to politics. I'm sorry. Its really to wake up a 2006 Giant's Fan.
2006-08-28 21:11:15
215.   Uncle Miltie
193- I don't really play video games so that really wouldn't affect me. The rules I'd be bothered by are the dress code, the dry campus, the G-rated movies only, and all of the other restrictions. Sending your kid to Bob Jones seems like a punishment. On top of that, a lot of employers don't recognize degrees from BJU. So unless you plan on becoming a minister, you blew a ton of money.

I still laugh at the fact that JD Drew attended Florida State. He must have felt really out of place.

2006-08-28 21:11:43
216.   Nagman
208 I must've missed it, what is your complaint with MLB EI? I think they show just about every game with which they have a contractual agreement with the carrier which includes all the Fox networks, YES, NESN (BoSox), etc. Basically, games carried by a local non-cable channel (like KCAL in LA) are not on Extra Innings.

They do black out the local team (or if you are in their blackout area, which sometimes doesn't make sense), but that's because you supposedly can get the game anyway on the local channel.

2006-08-28 21:12:50
217.   Greg Brock
Russell Martin. Goodness gracious.
2006-08-28 21:13:13
218.   Andrew Shimmin
Russ. . . We've gotta have a talk.
2006-08-28 21:13:21
219.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
What in the world was that?
Squirrels on a highway...
2006-08-28 21:14:05
220.   Berkeley Doug
Agassi is up 2 sets to 1 - leading 2-0 in the 4th set.
2006-08-28 21:14:10
221.   das411
Wow, this Agassi match is reminding me of nothing more than that 5 overtime Flyers/Penguins game from a few yrs ago...
2006-08-28 21:14:22
222.   Bluebleeder87
211

tomorrow will probably be a slug fest on both sides.

2006-08-28 21:14:25
223.   Gen3Blue
Not pretty for either team. How come Drew hasn't been in this?
2006-08-28 21:14:31
224.   Daniel Zappala
Nice inning for the Dodgers, let's hope Penny dose his part.

That was one of my 10-year-old's spelling words for tonight.

2006-08-28 21:15:26
225.   natepurcell
that was a bad play by russ.
2006-08-28 21:16:37
226.   MSarg29
What happened? Gameday isnt refreshing.
2006-08-28 21:17:02
227.   Terry A
I once got in a spot of trouble at that aforementioned university because Playboy bought my address from an SI subscriber mailing list and sent me a tantalizing postcard with a subscription offer.

I think they called in the ATF to destroy the card.

2006-08-28 21:17:12
228.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
I take it the play at the plate wasn't close?

WWSH

2006-08-28 21:17:16
229.   Andrew Shimmin
219- Russ played human sacrifice. The Reds had the Repko between second and first, so Russ distracted them, and actually did it well enough that Repko was going to get to second safely, as he did. But Russ was standing in no man's land watching, instead of getting back to third. Both runners should have been safe. Instead, Russ sacrificed himself, the runner at third, for Repko, who barely made it to second.
2006-08-28 21:17:55
230.   Berkeley Doug
The last play accoriding to Yahoo:

Repko singled to left, R. Martin out at home, R. Martin to third, J. Repko to second advancing on throw

????

2006-08-28 21:17:58
231.   underdog
That has to be the longest GameDay play recap in GameDay history:
"Jason Repko singles on a ground ball to left fielder Todd Hollandsworth. Russell Martin out at home, left fielder Todd Hollandsworth to third baseman Edwin Encarnacion to second baseman Brandon Phillips to first baseman Scott Hatteberg to catcher David Ross to third baseman Edwin Encarnacion. Jason Repko to 2nd on the throw."

Hilarious.

2006-08-28 21:18:34
232.   MSarg29
229 - thanks. what a mess
2006-08-28 21:19:07
233.   underdog
Say that three times fast.

No wonder it took so long - the little GameDay transcriber Gremlin had to type all that.

2006-08-28 21:19:34
234.   Berkeley Doug
Well after the wild pitch, it's all the same anyways.
2006-08-28 21:19:53
235.   Sushirabbit
Let me put it to you this way: why can't one order MLB games whatever way one wants? I mean, I Tivo anything I watch anymore, so I skip whatever commercials I want.

And the blackout rules are stupid. I am in Nashville, but I get blacked out for Cincinatti. In addition, they usually black out at least one weekend game.

2006-08-28 21:19:54
236.   Gen3Blue
We still have quite a way to go. With the Reds humorous defensive play I think we should have got more runs. I'm afraid we may need them.
2006-08-28 21:20:07
237.   underdog
And on top of all that, this inning's also offered a wild pitch and a passed ball. Fun for the whole family!
2006-08-28 21:20:10
238.   Bob Timmermann
Yes it was the old Single-FC-7-5-4-3-2-5.
2006-08-28 21:20:20
239.   Berkeley Doug
Come on K-Lo
2006-08-28 21:20:26
240.   Berkeley Doug
Come on K-Lo
2006-08-28 21:20:29
241.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
I guess it's up to Lofton here.

This is a game where a cushion would be real nice.

WWSH

2006-08-28 21:21:18
242.   Greg Brock
Well, that inning was a 10 in activity, and a 0 in achievement.
2006-08-28 21:21:39
243.   Disabled List
229

"The Reds had the Repko between second and first"

I like that, let's go with it.

2006-08-28 21:21:58
244.   Bluebleeder87
old foe Aurilia takes a hit away from Lofton.
2006-08-28 21:22:08
245.   Bob Timmermann
235

TV rights issues make no sense. Why does the NFL still have its weird blackout rules and why are out of town games only available through Direct TV?

I could get all Gregg Easterbrook on you and point out that people in Tehran have more options to watch NFL games than most people in the US.

2006-08-28 21:24:56
246.   Bluebleeder87
i hope Dessens gives us atleast 2 innings
2006-08-28 21:25:30
247.   Bob Timmermann
Vin should know that people in the know pronounce Royce Clayton's alma mater "Saint Bernard" with the accent on the first syllable.
2006-08-28 21:25:40
248.   JoeyP
Why not leave Drew in the game in the 9th spot, and take out Lofton?
2006-08-28 21:25:58
249.   ddger
Does Lugo remind anyone of Darrell Thomas?
2006-08-28 21:26:30
250.   Daniel Zappala
Why does the NFL still have its weird blackout rules and why are out of town games only available through Direct TV?

Because I might drive 13 hours from Salt Lake City to Phoenix and buy a ticket to watch the Diamondbacks. Or I might drive 9 hours to Denver. MLB wouldn't want to deprive the Dbacks or Rockies of that potential revenue!

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2006-08-28 21:27:56
251.   Bob Timmermann
250

I don't think the NFL would care if you bought a Rockies ticket.

2006-08-28 21:28:06
252.   Bluebleeder87
warning track power by Freel.
2006-08-28 21:28:34
253.   Greg Brock
Farney would have hit that out.
2006-08-28 21:28:51
254.   Terry A
HEY TIMMERMANN... 37!
2006-08-28 21:28:58
255.   Andrew Shimmin
250- I've always thought it was Zappala's fault, but couldn't prove it. With his admission, I've decided to file the necessary papers for extradition. You will be brought to justice, no question about it.
2006-08-28 21:29:13
256.   Nagman
I always wondered how DirecTV managed to get the exclusive with the NFL. Seems like there is a ton of money out there if they made it available to all carriers like the other sports packages. I can only assume DirecTV pays a ton for it.
2006-08-28 21:29:39
257.   s choir
Nixon... Ha!
2006-08-28 21:29:42
258.   Daniel Zappala
251 I am way too tired. We're an hour ahead of LA here. Substitute Cardinals and Broncos.
2006-08-28 21:29:49
259.   JoeyP
Hatteburg just had an Anti-Moneyball at bat. That at bat was like the exact opposite of what he said his approach to hitting was in the book.
2006-08-28 21:32:02
260.   Daniel Zappala
255 Extraditing me to where? I might actually be able to catch a game while I'm there.
2006-08-28 21:32:21
261.   Bob Timmermann
257
I would have known that.

Now if you yell "44!" I'll be stumped.

2006-08-28 21:33:34
262.   Bluebleeder87
44,176 in attendace today, i was thinking for a monday night not to shaby
2006-08-28 21:34:01
263.   Andrew Shimmin
260- The Hague, obviously. It may take a while; I only hope you can live with your conscience in the interim.
2006-08-28 21:34:23
264.   Bob Timmermann
260

How about Alaska?

2006-08-28 21:35:00
265.   Bluebleeder87
i was hoping we gave Dessens 2 innings but i see Tomko worming up in the pen.
2006-08-28 21:35:40
266.   Nagman
Duh, I realize what Sushirabbit's complaint is now. Are you not getting tonight's Dodger game on EI because it's being blacked out in the Reds "region" which Nashville is considered part of?

That makes no sense unless it's available locally. I always assumed they were trying to protect the local channel that was carrying it in that situation.

I live in San Diego so any Padre game on EI is blacked out, I can watch the local channel carrying it (there is an issue if the local channel isn't carrying it).

2006-08-28 21:36:06
267.   das411
Wow, what a match...

Hey Bob, 21!

2006-08-28 21:38:30
268.   Bluebleeder87
i hear Beatles music in the back ground.
2006-08-28 21:39:27
269.   regfairfield
267 Chester Arthur!
2006-08-28 21:39:28
270.   Bluebleeder87
3.5 3-3
2006-08-28 21:41:45
271.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
LA's 1-2-3 hitters are 0-for-9.
Everyone else, minus the pitcher's spot, is a collective 10-for-16.
2006-08-28 21:42:17
272.   Bluebleeder87
i like Russell Martins aproach, bases loaded for Repko.
2006-08-28 21:42:47
273.   Mr Customer
269 I'm a Millard Fillmore guy myself.
2006-08-28 21:42:57
274.   JoeyP
13 walks for both teams so far.
2006-08-28 21:43:05
275.   Bluebleeder87
Coffey is really strugling 2-0 to Repko
2006-08-28 21:43:36
276.   Disabled List
273 I hate that comic strip.
2006-08-28 21:44:01
277.   regfairfield
You know who would solve this problem? Alan Embree.
2006-08-28 21:44:02
278.   Bluebleeder87
can I call that hit by Repko a texas leaguer? noboday uses that world anymore.
2006-08-28 21:44:11
279.   Mr Customer
269 I'm a Millard Fillmore guy myself.
2006-08-28 21:45:39
280.   Bluebleeder87
Grady Little read my mind & desided to keep Dessens for another inning.
2006-08-28 21:46:15
281.   Bob Timmermann
The questions really work better when I'm paying attention.

The key to remembering the presidents in order is to remember a few presidents as "anchors" and then you can add or subtract from there.

The multiples of five are handy:

Monroe
Tyler
Buchanan
Garfield
McKinley
Coolidge
Kennedy
Reagan

2006-08-28 21:46:38
282.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Repko's bat may be heating up again...

WWSH

2006-08-28 21:46:46
283.   Bob Timmermann
279

13!

2006-08-28 21:47:13
284.   Greg Brock
278 Texas-leaguer is still around. Gork, duck fart, flare...All are acceptable. I'm partial to Texas-leaguer, as it was a father Brock expression.

Mr. Customer really likes Millard Fillmore.

2006-08-28 21:47:17
285.   D4P
I make a point to forget presidents. I'm much happier that way.
2006-08-28 21:47:40
286.   Mr Customer
Nevermind the 279 post. I got a little excited with the browser. I was trying to respond to 273, but Repko upset the balance of the universe with that single.

Anyway.

You're thinking of "Mallard" not "Millard". The President was edgier, and most likely, quite a bit more witty.

2006-08-28 21:47:59
287.   D4P
284
Gork...?
2006-08-28 21:49:28
288.   Mr Customer
284 What's not to like?

The double post is probably because I forgot my medication again.

2006-08-28 21:49:43
289.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Well, Repko lined out before, so the baseball gods owed him the flare.

WWSH

2006-08-28 21:51:25
290.   Bob Timmermann
Millard Fillmore signed the Compromise of 1850 which put off the Civil War for 11 years.

And he sent Commodore Matthew Peary to Japan to go tell the Japanese that they should be friendlier.

Of course by the time Peary got to Japan, Franklin Pierce was president.

Franklin Pierce was a bad president and is the subject of little or no historical interest from academics. When CSPAN did their "American Presidents" series spot for Pierce, their "expert" was a guy who wrote celebrity biographies mainly.

Nathaniel Hawthorne was a buddy of Franklin Pierce.

But I've digressed from my own digression!

2006-08-28 21:52:03
291.   das411
In other news, Uberprospect Delmon Young is on his way up to Tampa Bay.

And so it begins.

http://tinyurl.com/pt8nm

2006-08-28 21:52:23
292.   Greg Brock
287 You've never heard "gork" before?

Get out of town.

2006-08-28 21:54:25
293.   Bluebleeder87
i'm gonna stick with texas leaguer.
2006-08-28 21:54:39
294.   ddger
Grady might be sticking too long with Elmer.
2006-08-28 21:54:50
295.   natepurcell
291

young has a line of 342AB 316/341/474 15bb 65k
in AAA this year.

If Young is an uberprospect, kemp should be one too.

just sayin'.

2006-08-28 21:55:15
296.   D4P
292
I'd love to get out of this town. I guess they didn't use "gork" where I come from...
2006-08-28 21:56:31
297.   Xeifrank
if the Dodgers pull this game out our magic number will be down to a paultry 29. vr, Xei
2006-08-28 21:56:37
298.   Bluebleeder87
Dessens out Tomko in, i hope he dosen't make it to interesting.
2006-08-28 21:56:40
299.   Greg Brock
296 That's why you guys lost the Cold War.

Commernist Heathen.

2006-08-28 21:56:51
300.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Little gave Dessens a longer leash by letting him stay in - and Elmer threw up on the carpet.
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2006-08-28 21:57:00
301.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 290

Anyone who works on politics in the 1850s would know something about Pierce. As a historical personage, though, he pales in comparison to figures like Douglas and Lincoln who loom over the period. But the Pierce administration is plenty important for its role in Bleeding Kansas.

WWSH

2006-08-28 21:57:27
302.   Mr Customer
281 Horrifically, I've actually done that. I use the pinch-hitter presidents to count from. Tyler, Fillmore, Johnson, Arthur, Coolidge, Johnson, Ford.

VPs are WAY harder, because they double-up a lot.

2006-08-28 21:58:07
303.   Mark Joseph
292

I've never heard it, either. Must be a regional thing...

2006-08-28 21:58:07
304.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
The Red Sox, they are not good.
Oakland leads 9-0 in the eighth.
2006-08-28 21:58:16
305.   Xeifrank
291. I'd love to say Delmon is a hometown hero, but after the bat throwing incident I think the city has disowned him. :)
vr, Xei
2006-08-28 21:58:55
306.   Bluebleeder87
Tomko's fastball is a little to flat to induce a doublepaly but you never know.
2006-08-28 21:59:15
307.   Greg Brock
303 We do things a little differently out here in Los Angeles.

It was also in Bull Durham. That was a movie about minor league basball.

2006-08-28 21:59:50
308.   natepurcell
ah crap.
2006-08-28 21:59:52
309.   ddger
Elmer's glue lost it's stickability this inning.
2006-08-28 21:59:52
310.   Mr Customer
281 Roosevelt, too, but I don't tend to need the memory boost in that era.
2006-08-28 21:59:55
311.   Bob Timmermann
302

At a ninth grade assembly, the candidates for the student body offices got up and gave speeches.

One of the candidates for vice-president said, "Everybody remembers the first president and probably the second and third, but who remembers the name of the first, second, and third vice-president?"

I kept my mouth shut although I wanted to say "Adams, Jefferson, and Burr!"

2006-08-28 22:00:14
312.   Uncle Miltie
304- the exchange between Bradley and Swisher after either player hits a home run is hilarious.
2006-08-28 22:00:20
313.   D4P
Phew, the rally is over.
2006-08-28 22:00:24
314.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
On the bright side, that homer stops the rally.
2006-08-28 22:00:26
315.   Bluebleeder87
Tomko just made my heart beat a little faster on that dinger.
2006-08-28 22:00:28
316.   JoeyP
Repko's blooper might be the game-winning hit.
2006-08-28 22:00:36
317.   regfairfield
Me thinks Tomko didn't actually "figure it all out" when he went to the pen.
2006-08-28 22:00:38
318.   Uncle Miltie
Bring in Big Boy!
2006-08-28 22:00:51
319.   ddger
Would Grady regret not having to PH for Elmer last inning and gone for more runs.
2006-08-28 22:01:24
320.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Who's warming up in the pen?

Tomko is starting to regress to his old ways...

WWSH

2006-08-28 22:01:49
321.   MollyKnight
Gopher ball.

Go figure.

2006-08-28 22:01:56
322.   Disabled List
This game is now officially giving me heartburn.
2006-08-28 22:02:12
323.   JoeyP
Unless the pinch hitter hits into a DP, I'd bring in Sammy right now.
2006-08-28 22:02:25
324.   ddger
Tomko's good streak in the bullpen is crashing down just like his starting role.
2006-08-28 22:02:30
325.   Bluebleeder87
Dunn dons't hit Tomko all that well so let's see what happens.
2006-08-28 22:03:02
326.   Greg Brock
Get hot, you stupid Bull!
2006-08-28 22:03:05
327.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 319

With a 5-run lead and a gassed pen, I thought it was the right move to try to get 2 IP out of Dessens.

Oh well...

WWSH

2006-08-28 22:03:09
328.   Uncle Miltie
Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Adam Dunn replaces Todd Coffey.
Grits, please don't bring in Timmy!
2006-08-28 22:03:09
329.   Mr Customer
We can stop with the drama now.
2006-08-28 22:03:23
330.   JoeyP
Dunn is up.
I wouldnt give him anything close.
Freel's a much easier out.
2006-08-28 22:03:58
331.   Disabled List
Anyone else thinking about Paul Quantrill vs. Steve Finley in 2003?

Or is it just me?

2006-08-28 22:04:14
332.   Bluebleeder87
high cheese Tomko!
2006-08-28 22:04:29
333.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 323

I don't think Sammy could give us more than 1 IP today. I worry about him even just pitching the ninth in all due honesty.

WWSH

2006-08-28 22:06:16
334.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Where was that pitch?!
2006-08-28 22:06:39
335.   ddger
If bullpen blows this game, Grady bears big part in it.
2006-08-28 22:06:46
336.   JoeyP
Thats ok.
Better to walk Dunn than give up the HR.

Now bring in Bull or Saito.

2006-08-28 22:07:41
337.   StolenMonkey86
Bringing in the Bull.
2006-08-28 22:07:51
338.   Uncle Miltie
So we have a $4.5 million middle reliever and a $5 million utility player. Good stuff.
2006-08-28 22:08:03
339.   Mark Joseph
298

I hope to win the lottery.

2006-08-28 22:08:20
340.   natepurcell
Freel's a much easier out.

how so? Freel has a higher OBP then Dunn.

2006-08-28 22:08:27
341.   Bluebleeder87
Where was that pitch?!

in all honesty that pitch was just a tab outside.

2006-08-28 22:08:58
342.   Gagne55
If the Dodgers lose this one, I might break site rule #1. >:0
2006-08-28 22:09:03
343.   ddger
Come on Brox, save the day. Hope it's not too late.
2006-08-28 22:09:22
344.   Bluebleeder87
the bull with an easy 97MPH
2006-08-28 22:09:28
345.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Save us, Big Bad John.
2006-08-28 22:10:04
346.   s choir
Penny's inability to go longer in the game hurts here.
2006-08-28 22:10:07
347.   Mark Joseph
307

I am in Los Angeles. But I've never seen Bull Durham.

2006-08-28 22:10:40
348.   Mark Joseph
307

I am in Los Angeles. But I've never seen Bull Durham.

2006-08-28 22:10:44
349.   Mr Customer
340 Especially against us. it seems. He's another one of those guys that seems to be eternally on base against LA.
2006-08-28 22:11:20
350.   Bluebleeder87
That was a horrible throw by Kent. i don't think that was a DP anyway.
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2006-08-28 22:11:21
351.   D4P
So we have a $4.5 million middle reliever and a $5 million utility player

Don't forget the $9 million mediocre shortstop!

2006-08-28 22:12:04
352.   Uncle Miltie
349- that 5 stolen base game will never escape from my memory
2006-08-28 22:13:17
353.   Bluebleeder87
346

agreed, but i think Dessens could have gone the complete 2.JMO

2006-08-28 22:15:28
354.   Mr Customer
352 That was hideous. I was out with a bunch of guys that night, but me and my other Dodger fan friend spent more than half the time griping at the big-screen in the corner. That really didn't go over to well with the non-baseball-centric crowd.
2006-08-28 22:15:36
355.   Bluebleeder87
THE BULL!!
2006-08-28 22:15:38
356.   Greg Brock
And a Bull shall lead them
2006-08-28 22:15:55
357.   Nagman
What a pitch.
2006-08-28 22:16:02
358.   Gagne55
Thank you for swinging at ball 4 for strike 3. :D
2006-08-28 22:16:13
359.   natepurcell
the behemoth saves the day.
2006-08-28 22:16:18
360.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Wooo!
2006-08-28 22:16:46
361.   Bluebleeder87
Let's hope we score atleast 1 more, will Broxton go 2 innings?
2006-08-28 22:17:02
362.   JoeyP
Hatteburg with another Anti-Moneyball at bat.

I kinda wanted to see if Edwin could leave 8 guys on base in one game.

2006-08-28 22:17:27
363.   Bob Timmermann
Coming into this game, Ryan Freel had an OBP of .491 against the Dodgers.
2006-08-28 22:17:28
364.   StolenMonkey86
all right. Now how about the top of the lineup getting a hit?
2006-08-28 22:17:32
365.   ddger
Bull saves Tomko and Grady.
2006-08-28 22:17:33
366.   alex 7
according to gameday, 3 blocked balls by Martin with a runner at 3rd? impressive.
2006-08-28 22:17:39
367.   Gagne55
Broxton really got bailed out by a bad swing, but I'll take it.
2006-08-28 22:18:00
368.   Bluebleeder87
Brox was at 95 & toped of at 98MPH.
2006-08-28 22:18:08
369.   Mr Customer
363 That's downright faustian.
2006-08-28 22:18:28
370.   natepurcell
have to give credit to martin there. what a block with that ball in the dirt.
2006-08-28 22:18:49
371.   Gagne55
Scott Schowenweiss is still in the majors?
2006-08-28 22:18:50
372.   Bluebleeder87
366

Martin dose that very well.

2006-08-28 22:19:12
373.   Jon Weisman
214 - Completely unnecessary. Please don't do that.
2006-08-28 22:19:44
374.   Bob Timmermann
369

Indeed. Faustian.

Against the Giants, Freel has an OBP of .255!

2006-08-28 22:19:46
375.   ddger
Penny's short start really stretched our bullpen tonight.
2006-08-28 22:20:19
376.   natepurcell
Broxton really got bailed out by a bad swing, but I'll take it.

or broxton made a great pitch to a hitter that hardly ever strikes out. I guess its how you look at it.

2006-08-28 22:20:27
377.   Mr Customer
371 He went from Anaheim, to Chicago (Sox), to Toronto, if I remember correctly.
2006-08-28 22:21:26
378.   Greg Brock
Jon admonishes someone, and I race back to make sure I didn't say something wrong.

I do it every time.

2006-08-28 22:21:50
379.   Uncle Miltie
Bill Hall has more home runs than our usual 3/4 hitters combined.
2006-08-28 22:22:05
380.   D4P
378
Me too. Plus, I'm not really sure Ann Coulter counts as "politics." In fact, I don't think she counts at all.
2006-08-28 22:22:22
381.   JoeyP
Hatteburg's last two at bats of this game are examples of why he no longer plays for the A's.

Although, he has had a decent year with the Reds overall.

2006-08-28 22:24:00
382.   Mr Customer
378 Me too.

I'm on best behavior here, but I keep expecting the my utterly profane and sacreligious personality to spill over.

2006-08-28 22:24:48
383.   D4P
382
Thus far, you've managed to remain a cool customer...
2006-08-28 22:25:34
384.   natepurcell
381

uh, small sample size maybe? Hatteberg has had 58bbs in 383abs coming into this game with an ISOd of .92

2006-08-28 22:26:02
385.   Greg Brock
383 Man shops for proper pun in customer compliment.
2006-08-28 22:26:58
386.   Uncle Miltie
378- so did I. It's more nerve racking than having to watch Ishii escape a bases loaded jam.
2006-08-28 22:27:09
387.   Bluebleeder87
Ross nailed Lugo no doubt, i hope someone sent him.
2006-08-28 22:27:22
388.   natepurcell
to add to 384, of course his stats are being aided by playing in cinci but he still has the "moneyball" approach.
2006-08-28 22:27:40
389.   Mr Customer
386 (Shudder)
2006-08-28 22:28:00
390.   StolenMonkey86
well, so much for that idea
2006-08-28 22:28:12
391.   Uncle Miltie
Julio Lugo is a professional outmaker
2006-08-28 22:28:53
392.   JoeyP
Taking the bat out of Nomar's hands is a really stupid play.
2006-08-28 22:29:00
393.   natepurcell
Broxtons back in.
2006-08-28 22:29:19
394.   Uncle Miltie
391- Ned needed someone to replace Izturis
2006-08-28 22:29:56
395.   Mr Customer
385 I almost skimmed right over it. Kudos. That's the fun of having a nom-de-guerre that is totally inane.
2006-08-28 22:30:29
396.   JoeyP
388. The moneyball approach doesnt include swining at pitches in the dirt, or hacking when losing in the late innings.

I was just saying that those two at bats by Hatteburg, are things he normally wouldnt do in the past, and are reasons why he no longer plays for Oakland.

2006-08-28 22:32:08
397.   Bluebleeder87
Griffin walks, i hope Aurilia hits into a DP.
2006-08-28 22:32:10
398.   Mr Customer
Mmmm...

Double Play?

2006-08-28 22:32:39
399.   Greg Brock
395 For what it's worth "Mr. Customer" is right up there with "Veteran Character Actor" as one of the best generic screenames.
2006-08-28 22:32:59
400.   Mr Customer
397 That was a little creepy. 2 second lapse.
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2006-08-28 22:33:12
401.   Andrew Shimmin
Hatteberg doesn't play for the A's because he's like a million years old and he stank last year. Also, they've got 1Bs falling out of their pockets when they sit down too fast.

There's also no such thing as a Moneyball at bat, so, transitively, there's no such thing as an anti-Moneyball one.

2006-08-28 22:33:29
402.   D4P
I think I'd prefer "Mr. Manager." Oh wait, just "Manager."
2006-08-28 22:34:02
403.   Mr Customer
399 It acutally used to be Preferred Customer, but I got a little more self-respect.
2006-08-28 22:34:08
404.   Uncle Miltie
396- Coming into today's game, Hatteberg had a K/BB ratio of 35/58. Can you explain to me why Jay Payton (one of the least patient hitters in baseball this year), Marco Scutaro, and Adam Melhuse are still on the A's? You reasoning makes no sense.
2006-08-28 22:34:10
405.   ddger
Broxton seems to be laboring this inning. His fastball is only 93 to 94.
2006-08-28 22:34:25
406.   Bluebleeder87
Wow Brox has a good slider today.
2006-08-28 22:35:11
407.   Jon Weisman
By the way, the other 405 comments have been swell :)
2006-08-28 22:36:53
408.   ddger
Another slider out of the strike zone for a strikeout.
2006-08-28 22:37:13
409.   Greg Brock
Embedded deep within this comment are many, many euphemisms for profanity.

Look deep. They're in there.

2006-08-28 22:38:14
410.   ddger
One more out Jon. Jonathan that is.
2006-08-28 22:38:36
411.   s choir
Right now I am thinking, but not posting, quite a few euphemisms for profanity.
2006-08-28 22:39:01
412.   Greg Brock
We win!
2006-08-28 22:39:18
413.   Mr Customer
Would now be a good time to mention how much more pleasant it is to be 3 games up, instead of 2?
2006-08-28 22:39:23
414.   Jon Weisman
409 - You mock me.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/88/88jmockme.phtml

2006-08-28 22:39:34
415.   alex 7
watch a 3rd strike here Jacobs
2006-08-28 22:39:40
416.   Bluebleeder87
wow Brox painted the outside corner! woo!!
2006-08-28 22:39:49
417.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Whew!
2006-08-28 22:39:52
418.   JoeyP
Wow.
Thanks for playing Brandon.

Good job Brox!

2006-08-28 22:39:58
419.   StolenMonkey86
nice one for Broxton
2006-08-28 22:40:08
420.   Uncle Miltie
412- thank Betemit
2006-08-28 22:40:12
421.   Bob Timmermann
And the Dodgers pass the Angels as the kings of the LA/OC SMSA!
2006-08-28 22:40:14
422.   alex 7
oh, didn't really expect him too, but ok.
2006-08-28 22:40:14
423.   natepurcell
that was awesome.
2006-08-28 22:42:10
424.   JoeyP
Jay Payton (one of the least patient hitters in baseball this year), Marco Scutaro, and Adam Melhuse are still on the A's?

None of them can only play 1st base.

2006-08-28 22:42:25
425.   ddger
That was a tough save and a great job by Broxton. Brought back memories of Gagne.
2006-08-28 22:42:56
426.   Gagne55
They didn't blow it, and I can rest easy tonight.
2006-08-28 22:43:13
427.   D4P
414
"You mock me" is one of those SNL sayings (along with, e.g., "ACT-ing!") that you're never sure if anyone else is gonna "get"
2006-08-28 22:43:36
428.   Jon Weisman
I reset the counter - new chat post up top.
2006-08-28 22:44:16
429.   Jon Weisman
427 - Genius!
2006-08-28 22:44:35
430.   natepurcell
that stikeout pitch was 98mph cheese at the knees on the outside corner. great pitch, great 2 inning effort by broxton to bail out pitchers 10 yrs older then him.
2006-08-28 22:45:10
431.   Greg Brock
414 Sorry about the insolence and bold affrontary, your Lordship.
2006-08-28 22:46:03
432.   Vaudeville Villain
Hatteberg doesn't play for the A's anymore because they had Dan Johnson, who was younger, and comparable offensively. I think if Oakland knew that Johnson would struggle so much this year, they might have kept Hatteberg.
2006-08-28 22:47:38
433.   Bluebleeder87
i gotta wake up realy eraly tomorrow, out out late.
2006-08-28 22:47:54
434.   Gagne55
Penny showed tonight the problem with opnly going 5 innings, even if it is 5 innings of 1 run ball (1.80 era).
2006-08-28 22:49:03
435.   Greg Brock
427 ACTING! is not well known. I know from painful experience. And yet I use it.

I throw out "Hey, you're Tony Randall!" whenever somebody tends to repeat themselves. It's from Mr. Short term memory. Absolutely nobody gets that one.

2006-08-28 22:50:59
436.   CanuckDodger
430 -- What, and where, were the first two pitches to Phillips? Phillips has to feel extremely humiliated taking three called strikes without any balls, especially in the situation he was in.

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