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Your Appetizer, Sir?
2006-09-14 08:36
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Nothing like arriving at work and having some scoreboard watching waiting for you.

Padres-Reds, 9:35 a.m.

Comments
2006-09-14 08:47:49
1.   Eric Enders
In case anyone's wondering, I figured out the reason for Ethier's slump.

Andre Ethier before Jon wrote him up at SI.com: .338/.383/.545
After: .259/.341/.346

The slugging percentage almost worse than the OBP is a nifty Brett Butleresque trick.

2006-09-14 08:55:06
2.   Gagne55
If Kuo doesn't give up a run today, I'd like to nominate the nickname 'Kuofax'. All in support say "aye".
2006-09-14 08:57:37
3.   Greg S
Bob already posted the LAT story this morning that says Little won't use Saito for more than 1 inning. It says he won't use him on the road in a tie game but really that's just the same thing. I'm not sure if that's sound medicine or goofy manager thinking but it's a plan and he's apparently sticking to it. If it's goofy manger thinking, perhaps I've been brainwashed by watching too many years of goofy managers.
2006-09-14 09:02:27
4.   Eric Enders
Since I had the first post, I really should have replied to the headline with a Claude Rains reference. We may have reached this year's limit on those, though.
2006-09-14 09:11:30
5.   FirstMohican
2 - I'm undecided, but I am for "KuoFacts" as the title of every stat sheet displayed during televised games.
2006-09-14 09:13:09
6.   FirstMohican
5 - Every stat sheet that, you know, shows Kuo's stats.
2006-09-14 09:14:37
7.   bigcpa
Hey folks- I'm heading to Wrigley in 15 min. The sun finally broke through out here. I don't have any identifying apparel, but I'm 10 rows off the Dodger dugout. Going to tomorrow night's game in LA for the road/home double dip.
2006-09-14 09:16:15
8.   Jon Weisman
4 - I was just going for being a plain old waiter.

2 - It's been pitched before - it's good except for the fact that people complain about the mispronounciation of the first letter in Kuo's name.

2006-09-14 09:20:29
9.   Jon Weisman
1 - Maybe I had better not write about Furcal, then.
2006-09-14 09:22:39
10.   Sam DC
9 Maybe the Pads are do for a profile.
2006-09-14 09:26:52
11.   Eric Enders
Is there an overall "SI.com front page jinx"?
2006-09-14 09:28:00
12.   regfairfield
11 Is there any magazine/website that's not cursed?
2006-09-14 09:30:11
13.   Eric Enders
I haven't read through yesterday's whole thread, but did anyone answer the headline question with "Russell Martin"?
2006-09-14 09:31:09
14.   Nagman
I was just wondering the other day when the last time a Dodger was on the cover of SI (the magazine). Does anybody know?

I have the cover of ESPN The Magazine with Gagne on it from August '04 on my bulletin board at work, it needs to be replaced but I'm not holding my breath waiting for the Dodgers to be on the cover of a major magazine.

2006-09-14 09:33:09
15.   scooplew
Perhaps of interest: Brad Penny is 16-8 with an ERA of 4.04. Only once since they moved to L.A. (in 1958) have the Dodgers had a pitcher with at least 15 wins and an ERA of 4.00 or above. That was Don Sutton in 1970 at 15-13 and 4.08. Prior to that, in Brooklyn, Carl Erskine was 18-15 and 4.15 in 1954, and Russ Meyer was 15-5 and 4.56 in 1953. Since 1958, the Dodgers have had pitchers with 15 or more wins 73 times, including Penny this year.
2006-09-14 09:38:01
16.   Robert Daeley
14 I have kept my Gagne "Game Over" pennant up on the cubicle wall all season, but will likely buy a generic Dodgers one to replace when we go to the Padres game on Monday. The 51s and 66ers stay there. :)
2006-09-14 09:38:22
17.   scooplew
14 This is not a definitive answer, but the last Sports Illustrated cover available for purchase (reprint) with a Dodger on the cover is the baseball preview edition of March 29, 1999, featuring Kevin Brown. However, for some reason the magazine does not make all its covers available for purchase. Koufax was depicted on five covers, but none of them is for sale.
2006-09-14 09:42:01
18.   scooplew
Padres out in order in the top of the 1st.
2006-09-14 09:43:12
19.   Sam DC
Still no Andre.

Four pitch first inning for Harang.

2006-09-14 09:46:33
20.   bhsportsguy
19 Grady already said that Ethier wasn't going to play today.

Today's lineup

Furcal, SS
Lofton, CF
Nomar, 1B
Drew, RF
Kent, 2B
Betemit, 3B
Anderson, LF
Martin, C
Kuo, P

Wonder if Ethier will play tomorrow when they face David Wells?

2006-09-14 09:47:03
21.   gibsonhobbs88
4 - In answer to your reply to my comments in the previous thread regarding the Dodgers troubles with the Giants the last weekend of the season - I just replied to that thread. I will repeat it here.
Your reply regarding Piazza taking Torres to the woodshed, well that was 1993 and the Giants were fighting for a pennant, Dodgers were not. I was referring to when we have something at stake and was thinking more about 1982(Joe Morgan) and 1991(Will Clark & Co.) dashing our dreams up in their crib. That is what I meant by saying we don't want to go into the final weekend up there having to win more than 1 game.
2006-09-14 09:50:58
22.   Eric Enders
21 I didn't realize you meant at SF anyway. I believe the Torres game was at Dodger Stadium.
2006-09-14 09:54:45
23.   Ken Arneson
1 And just because I was curious, Milton Bradley's numbers since Jon wrote up Andre Ethier: .286/.377/.407
2006-09-14 09:55:02
24.   scooplew
21 However, the day before Morgan eliminated the Dodgers with his three-run homer in 1982, we eliminated the Giants by routing them, 15-2.
2006-09-14 09:58:48
25.   Jon Weisman
I've actually got a new Ethier post up top.

24 et al - While the Giants have obviously been our villains, I don't see the point of assuming that because they've hurt us a few times this century means that they will do so again in 2006. Have we forgotten 2004? Any team can knock the Dodgers out, and any team can be a springboard.

2006-09-14 10:00:20
26.   Jon Weisman
25 - I meant to write, "in the past century." I forgot that this isn't the 20th century anymore.
2006-09-14 10:01:00
27.   Greg S
I'm curious if the die-hard fans here are more likely to get out to the games this weekend. I know I'm going Monday but I have this tug like I should be out there for as many as I can. This is after all, what it's all about as fans. Are many you gong this weekend? Still thinking about it?
2006-09-14 10:03:45
28.   gibsonhobbs88
24 - In 1991, the Giants were eliminated late in the season as well before the Dodgers arrived so they lived to knock us off.
1993 when we had nothing to play for then payback was kind of sweet for all the pain they have inflicted on us over the last 50+ years if you include those painful playoff losses in '51 and '62.

A little side note, when I got married in 1986, I got married on Sat. October 4. If it was the 3rd, I would have arranged it for a week later. October 3 is a dark day for the Dodgers. Oct. 4, 1955 is when they won their first world series. It is fitting a Dodger fan would get married on a glorious day then a dark day. Getting married on the 3rd would have probably doomed the marriage.:)

2006-09-14 10:06:43
29.   gibsonhobbs88
27 - I am going Saturday night. Unfortunately I have obligations that keep me from attending the games live on the other days. I will still be able to catch the latter portions of Friday and Monday's games on TV and maybe get to see most of Sunday's game on TV.
2006-09-14 10:09:22
30.   gibsonhobbs88
25 - Dodgers had to come from behind in that game as well as we were headed for a loss after losing the Friday night game that weekend. The Giants were threatening to sweep if they won that game on Saturday as they had Schmidt scheduled to go on Sunday.
2006-09-14 10:10:18
31.   Gagne55
8 But Scully, Steiner, and Lyons pronounce Kuo with a K. Besides even if G is correct, he still sees a lot of Ks. /witty pun
2006-09-14 10:12:38
32.   Gagne55
21 Don't forget about '04.
2006-09-14 10:13:48
33.   Terry A
31 - Your tag is most certainly broken in that comment. :)
2006-09-14 10:17:01
34.   scooplew
28 Congratulations on 20 years of marriage! No mean feat.
2006-09-14 10:19:36
35.   Greg S
34 He didn't say he was still married. ; )
2006-09-14 10:28:12
36.   scooplew
28 Are you still married?
2006-09-14 10:28:52
37.   Jon Weisman
30 - So even when the Dodgers won, it's a negative. I seem to recall that the Giants had to come from behind in 1951 and 1962. Does that diminish those victories for them?

Is it so hard to admit that the Dodgers have beaten the Giants with the season on the line, fair and square?

2006-09-14 10:33:01
38.   Jon Weisman
In other words, the Giants' collapse in the ninth inning of that Finley game in 2004 was monumental. I think it pretty much kills the idea that the Giants have some kind of infallible strangehold on the Dodgers with regards to October.
2006-09-14 10:37:55
39.   Jon Weisman
Padres-Reds, 0-0, is halfway to the ninth in an hour.
2006-09-14 10:40:27
40.   scooplew
11 In a statistics course I once took, the teacher discussed the "SI Jinx." He pointed out that SI will almost always put on its cover someone or some team doing very well at that point in time, and that person or team is unlikely to maintain such a high accomplishment level. Almost invariably, the person or team does not do as well subsequently; hence, the notion of a "jinx."
2006-09-14 10:48:18
41.   Bob Timmermann
39
They're starting the clock right after a change of possession and that's shortening the game.
2006-09-14 11:22:43
42.   Jon Weisman
Guess this chat has moved upstairs.
2006-09-14 11:23:43
43.   gibsonhobbs88
36 - Yes I'm still happily married. Lucky for me, my wife grew up listening to Dodger games with her dad on the radio, and when the Dodgers were not playing, she would say "No game tonight Daddy?" her Dad would say "No game sweetie" and she would fall off to sleep. We attend an average of 10-15 games a year during our marriage. She loved Fernando, Orel, Gibby, Steve Sax and she has her own team in a fantasy league called the "Moonlight Grahams".
2006-09-14 11:36:39
44.   Eric Enders
43 I had no idea Vin Scully's son in law was a DT reader!

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