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Marlon From Heaven
2006-09-29 15:10
by Jon Weisman

Marlon Anderson's statistics as a Dodger, pro-rated over 162 games:

.441 on-base percentage, .850 slugging percentage, 1.291 OPS, 49 home runs.

Marlon Anderson's career statistics, pro-rated over 162 games:

.316 on-base percentage, .395 slugging percentage, .711 OPS, 10 home runs.

* * *

Phillies at Marlins, 4:05 p.m.

Astros at Braves, 4:05 p.m.

Reds at Pirates, 4:05 p.m.

Brewers at Cardinals, 5:10 p.m.

Padres at Diamondbacks, 6:40 p.m.

Dodgers at Giants, 7:15 p.m.

Comments (705)
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2006-09-29 15:26:43
1.   ssjames
This random waiver trading deadline deal is the one that will ultimately lead the Dodgers to the postseason, without a doubt. And at the time, nobody blinked an eye. Amazing.
2006-09-29 15:29:32
2.   underdog
Yeah, I don't know what kind of a career Jhonny Nunez will ultimately have so it's hard to gauge with any finality but also hard to argue that Anderson's been anything less than a complete steal. His power has surprised me and he's been clutch. Very important acquisition if they do make the playoffs.
2006-09-29 15:34:59
3.   DodgerDodger
Sample size, shmample size. Let's lock up a multi-year extention now. Get in on the ground floor.
2006-09-29 15:39:25
4.   Telemachos
Charlie Steiner's "Marlon the Magnificent!" call from yesterday was a blast.
2006-09-29 15:41:21
5.   bigcpa
The all-lefthanded outfield is in there vs. Lowry and no Saenz!

Furcal, SS
Lofton, CF
Nomar, 1B
Kent, 2B
Drew, RF
Martin, C
Anderson, LF
Lugo, 3B
Kuo, P

2006-09-29 15:44:05
6.   still bevens
Aw crap Lugo
2006-09-29 15:45:58
7.   ToyCannon
Gotta find a place for Tomato with Kuo pitching. I guess Little figures Lowry will be gone in 5 innings so why bother using up his RHH at the beginning.

What Marlon has done as a Dodgers is what legends are made of.

2006-09-29 15:48:06
8.   willhite
6 -

Every dog has his day, and although Lugo will have to buy his ticket to get near the HOF, he's a far better player than he has shown for the Dodgers.

I'd like to be the first to announce that he will be the one responsible for our victory tonight.

I will now take up residence under my desk so as to escape the various objects which all of you will be hurling in my direction.

2006-09-29 15:48:13
9.   ssjames
6 I bet that is exactly what Noah Lowry is thinking right now too. :\
2006-09-29 15:51:09
10.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
Seems to happen sometimes. I think, if you want a comp that I had to become familiar with because of where I live, look at Randy Winn in a Jints uniform last year:

Randy Winn, 2005 with the Jints, pro-rated for a 162-game stint:

.391 OBP, .680 SLG, 1.071 OPS, 39 HR


.343 OBP, .421 SLG, .764 OPS, 11 HR


.322 OBP, .393 SLG, .715 OPS, 11 HR

In fact, Winn was 31 when he had his late-season flourish with the Jints, a year younger than Anderson.

Of course, Anderson is doing something even more stellar than Winn did, but I'm just saying that a small blip is a small blip is a small blip

2006-09-29 15:52:07
11.   Bob Timmermann
Rollins SS
Victorino CF
Ultey 2B
Howard 1B
Burrell LF
Dellucci RF
Coste C
Nunez 3B
Moyer P

Ramirez SS
Uggla 2B
Cabrera 3B
Willingham LF
Helms 1B
Ross RF
Amezaga CF
Treanor C
Moehler P

2006-09-29 15:56:32
12.   Jim Hitchcock
Oh man oh man oh man.

I actually get to see the games on TV this weekend!

The only drawback is, I'm stuck listening to
the Giants broadcasters. The only alternatie would be to sit in my car and listen to 980,
which comes in surprisingly well in Carson City.

Whatever. It's gonna be a great weekend!

2006-09-29 15:58:03
13.   confucius
If Kuo was a ground ball pitcher I could understand Little's logic with the decision to put Lugo at third. Kuo isn't however, so Saenz should be starting.
2006-09-29 15:58:30
14.   scooplew
8 Is your moniker/label in honor of Nick Willhite, who pitched for the Dodgers in the mid-1960s, or are you Nick Willhite, or is there another explanation? I salute your faith in Lugo. I nearly guaranteed yesterday that Penny would pitch very well, so I won't be throwing brickbats or anything else at you.
2006-09-29 16:00:12
15.   scooplew
12 Actually, I like the camaraderie of Kuiper and Krukow and the knowledge that they share. Generally, they are not homers.
2006-09-29 16:01:58
16.   underdog
12 Jim, ditto here in SF, though I don't think the Giants announcers are that bad. They're kind of amusing and Krukow isn't that much of a homer (except for his occasional annoying "Siddown meat!" and "grab some pine" catch phrases). I'd still prefer Vin of course, but at least it's not Joe Morgan.
2006-09-29 16:02:20
17.   underdog
Or.. what Scoop said.
2006-09-29 16:03:16
18.   Ryan Jerz
12 Carson City eh? Never heard of a Dodger fan there. It's good to have more than one of us in No. NV
2006-09-29 16:06:11
19.   willhite
14 -
Your first guess is correct. I've been a Dodger fan since 1954 and I'm left-handed. I've seen a lot of mediocre southpaws come and go, but for some reason I took a real liking to Nick Willhite. You and I may be the only two living beings who actually remember that he pitched for the Dodgers (except, I assume, for his family members).

Actually, my son, who is also a huge Dodger fan , knows of Willhite's existence also, so now that makes 3 of us.

2006-09-29 16:13:31
20.   Jim Hitchcock
scoop and underdog, I agree with you. It's just that nobody can compare to Vinny.

They have been very credible in their criticism of the Giants of late. It's made watching the games rather enjoyable.

Ryan, I just moved here from L.A. in May (right after the Dodgers first winning streak). Moved first to Reno, where my cousins live. I'll be heading there tonight after the game. It's really a pretty cool little city.

2006-09-29 16:18:55
21.   scooplew
20 The trouble with listening to Vinny, as I have for more than half a century, is that he spoils you. Even other good announcers fall short of the mark. As for bad announcers, what can one say? When I lived in the Midwest, and I could pick up half a dozen or more different games at night, I truly learned how bad bad announcers can be. I think Mike Shannon tops that list.
2006-09-29 16:23:04
22.   thinkblue0
I don't see anything wrong with having Lugo in the lineup.

He plays decent defense, has some pop in his bat...and I'd much rather save Saenz for that big 7th or 8th inning pinch hit we might need.

Overall, good let's smoke Lowry

Hanley Ramirez with a lead off triple :)

2006-09-29 16:24:12
23.   Bob Timmermann
Marlins 1, Phillies 0.
2006-09-29 16:24:25
24.   ssjames
Marlins jump out in front in the first inning against the Phils 1-0 on a Hanley triple and a Cabrera Sac. Fly.
2006-09-29 16:26:58
25.   Jim Hitchcock

I've said it before, but Vinny is the only announcer who talks to the listener, instead of his cohort. And with that simple method, he draws you into the game like no other announcer.

BTW, I've clean forgot how to underscore.

2006-09-29 16:28:29
26.   aloofman
12 - Grrr. I live in Socal, and 980 only comes in here if I'm at least 100 yards from an electrical line. Then it's all static. How ridiculous is that?
2006-09-29 16:30:18
27.   underdog
I'm sure you can get play by play of the game here on DodgerThoughts tonight, aloofman. ;-)
2006-09-29 16:30:24
28.   scooplew
19 I remember Willhite well, particularly his major league debut on June 16, 1963. My mother had shooed my father and me from L.A. to Palm Springs for a few days so we would not get in the way as she helped my older sister prepare for her wedding. For some reason, we took the Greyhound. On the Sunday afternoon that we returned, Willhite pitched the second game of a DH against the Cubs. As I listened on my transistor radio on the bus, Willhite shut them out, 2-0, on five hits. It was the only shutout of his career. He was one of those pitchers who fought valiantly to earn starts in rotations that included the likes of Koufax, Drysdale, Podres, Osteen and even Richert and later Sutton. I've been a fan of the Dodgers since 1954, one year less than one.
2006-09-29 16:30:52
29.   joekings
26- On my drive home I have to drive past a criss cross of electrical lines and it never fails that it is always during a crucial situation. Luckily it's only for about a minute or so but it's a very long minute sometimes.
2006-09-29 16:31:31
30.   Bob Timmermann

You should take that up with your local power company and ask for better insulation on the lines. I'm sure they will get right on it!

Seriously, the Dodgers contract with KFWB was not a good one. But most radio contracts now are set up to maximize revenue for the teams, not to make it easier for people to hear the games. See the cases of St. Louis and Pittsburgh.

2006-09-29 16:31:44
31.   scooplew
Correction: Since 1955, one year less than you.
2006-09-29 16:32:38
32.   50 years a Dodger Fan
13 There is no logic for putting Lugo anywhere but 6 feet under. If McCourt has a brain, he'll get huge pictures of Lugo and Hendrickson and order them hung in Colletti's office forever as a reminder to not repeat those colossal blunders ever again!!!!!
2006-09-29 16:33:48
33.   Brendan
Jon's post reminds me of the beginning of the season where players are hitting .650 and are projected to hit 89 hr's.

Jim do you still have the birds? I still recall the late night comedy routines you and Icaros would perform on DT. Hope things turn out well for you in Carson City.

2006-09-29 16:34:51
34.   scooplew
30 Here on the Monterey Peninsula, I used to pick up the night games on 720 out of Las Vegas, but the Dodgers dropped that station a few years ago. It's impossble to get 980 here because a local station has that spot on the dial. Bring back 790 or clear channel 640.
2006-09-29 16:35:09
35.   50 years a Dodger Fan
8 At least you got the species right.
2006-09-29 16:35:59
36.   Brendan
1-1 in miami
2006-09-29 16:39:13
37.   thinkingblue

I think you're going a bit far with your first sentence there.

2006-09-29 16:40:28
38.   fanerman
32, 35 - Don't you think you're being a bit harsh on Lugo?
2006-09-29 16:41:22
39.   underdog
37 Yeah. Saying Lugo should be killed is a little much. How about on the bench? Maybe he'll prove us all wrong tonight. (I'm more worried about his defense.)
2006-09-29 16:41:42
40.   Jack Fimple
"Watching" Phils-Fish on Sportsline. Anyone know how Burrell scored from second on a groundout to the pitcher?
2006-09-29 16:41:43
41.   Johnson
10 Speaking of Anderson and his amazing work in a small sample size, here is a list of Marlon's career AB/HR:

1998 PHI 43 AB/HR
1999 PHI 90
2000 PHI 162
2001 PHI 47
2002 PHI 67
2003 TB 80
2004 STL 32
2005 NYM 34
2006 WAS 43
2006 LAD 8.6

Now, his career rate has clearly improved starting in about 2004, but he's hit at absolutely ridiculous levels in L.A. (Bonds 2001: 6.5; Bonds career: 13). I'm glad he's signed for another year - I'd hate for us to offer him one of those Randy Winn contracts based on this September (however much I appreciate what he's done for us down the stretch, which is a LOT). Hopefully, he'll be a nice IF/OF utility player with semi-regular starts (or even a platoon) next year, but I'd never expect to see this kind of outburst again.

2006-09-29 16:42:26
42.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
15, 16 I guess everyone has their own opinion.

While perhaps the the Jints announcers are even handed in their knowledge of and criticism of the game and or teams, they certainly, without doubt, express emotion that favors the Jints and express disdain and stir up hatred for the Dodgers. I tend to think of that as being a "homer".

Ever see them show a Dodger fan in the crowd, and then take their telestrator pen and scribble their face out? I don't know if you can not call someone a "homer" who seeks to stir up the emotions of fans that way.

2006-09-29 16:43:39
43.   Jim Hitchcock
Thanks, Brendan. Seamus is still with me. We go camping all the time (I usually find a convenient tree to stick him in), and swimming. I slipped one time crossing the Truckee River (it ran real high high this summer), and we shot the rapids together, to the astonishment of a crowd of onlookers. He fell off my shoulder and started swimming (flapping his wings with vigor!). I turned around, he jumped back on my shoulder, and away we went (merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...), no worse for wear.
2006-09-29 16:45:50
44.   Bob Timmermann
The Giants actively market and sell Dodger hatred as a way to get people to come to the park.

The Dodgers really don't do that with the Giants.

I don't think one way is better than the other. The Giants marketing people know what sells.

2006-09-29 16:46:57
45.   joekings
40- He wasn't on second he was on third. He moved over when Delluci grounded out.
2006-09-29 16:49:53
46.   50 years a Dodger Fan
12 Jim, all these stations supposedly broadcast the Dodger games. Don't hesitate to try some of the more distant ones; AM signals bounce off the Ionosphere and can be picked up at great distances sometimes.

Dodgers Radio Network
Station On Dial City
KFWB 980 Los Angeles
KWKW 1330 *Los Angeles
KDEF 1150 Albuquerque
KNZR 1560 Bakersfield
KMET 1490 Banning
KBOV 1230 Bishop
KROP 1300 Brawley/El Centro
KICO 1490 *Calexico/El Centro
XESDD 920 *Enseneda, Mexico
KCBL 1340 Fresno
KYVA 1230 +Gallup, NM
KAVL 610 Lancaster/Palmdale
KSFN 1140 Las Vegas
KPSI 920 Palm Springs
KWKU 1220 *Pomona/Ontario/Redlands
KPRO 1570 +Riverside
WSTA 1340 +St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands
KXTY 99.7 San Luis Obispo/Santa Maria
KHTS 1220 Santa Clarita
KUHL 1440 Santa Maria
XESS 620 *Rosarito, Baja California
KVEN 1450 Ventura/Oxnard
WTTB 1490 +Vero Beach, FL
KWRN 1550 *+Victorville
KEZL 1400 Visalia

2006-09-29 16:51:44
47.   bhsportsguy
32 Again, based on what he said in the past, I take his tone with some slack since he tends to post with his heart.

While, the Lugo deal will never get the scorn that the Penny/Choi for LoDuca/Mota deal (from the media, not DT), again I think you have to realize that it was part b to part a being the Maddux deal. That said, when the season is done, I would be happy to debate all the deals but for now lets see what happens over the next few days.

2006-09-29 16:52:51
48.   50 years a Dodger Fan
38 No. He is a travesty.
2006-09-29 16:54:30
49.   scooplew
Houston-Atlanta 0-0 in the 4th.
2006-09-29 16:54:50
50.   Jim Hitchcock

Hey, I remembered how to underscore!

Thanks, 50 years. I've copied the list. Mighty nice of you!

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2006-09-29 16:55:04
51.   popup
12 I am able to listen to Dodger games in my home in Tacoma, Washington on a station from Bakersfield, KNZR 1560. I actually like the Giant radio broadcasters. Dave Flemming is supurb and Jon Miller when he puts his mind to it can describe what is taking place on the field better than any broadcaster working today.

19 I remember Nick Willhite. The ultimate soft tossing lefty. I particularly remember a great game he pitched against the Phillies in 1964.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-09-29 16:56:15
52.   underdog
42 I know what you mean Brent (and the pen scribbling thing does get old - though he doesn't just do it to Dodger fans and it doesn't seem to come from too mean spirited a place). I just think if you compare them to say, the White Sox announcers (horrible, homer to the extreme) they wouldn't look as bad. They do sell some of the anti-Dodger propaganda but at the same time they are also pretty respectful and fair - praising players on LA who deserve to be praised and never getting too caught up in it. So they're "homers" but ones that aren't as extreme as some others.

But again, no comparison with Vin.

2006-09-29 16:56:17
53.   Bob Timmermann
Don't try the Virgin Islands station. But if you can get it, tell us what the local commercials are like!
2006-09-29 16:56:51
54.   Bill Crain
34 The good old days: using 2 or 3 different radios and antennas to pull in Vegas 720 after the sun went down. Vinny fading in and out; constantly adjusting the dials and wires. (This is in the Napa Valley.) I miss that station more than KFI.
2006-09-29 16:57:50
55.   scooplew
42 You make several good points. However, they also cross out the faces of others in the crowd besides Dodger fans -- people dressed in ways they consider odd or speaking on cell phones, etc. One thing I like about the announcers for the Giants is that they get excited when an opposing player does something good. You ever hear Joe Nuxhall when someone hit a homer against the Reds? Monotone.
2006-09-29 16:58:15
56.   Bob Timmermann
Nick Willhite didn't pitch against the Phillies in 1964.
2006-09-29 16:59:03
57.   Bob Timmermann
4-1 Phillies.
2006-09-29 16:59:27
58.   joekings
Walk to Ryan Howard backfires, Burrell with a 3 run blast.
2006-09-29 17:00:14
59.   willhite

Wow, between the two of us we have 103 years worth of Dodger fanhood.

I remember Willhite's debut, but I must confess I have no idea where I was that day. I think that's what got me interested in him. I just naturally assumed that he and Koufax would be elbowing each other to see who was inducted into the HOF first. I guess Sandy won that race.

2006-09-29 17:01:59
60.   Jim Hitchcock

Bob, I kinda like the idea of being stationed in the Virgin Islands...

2006-09-29 17:03:17
61.   underdog
Brian Moehler, you're on my ____ list, buddy!
2006-09-29 17:03:30
62.   Bob Timmermann
Introducing Nick Willhite:

2006-09-29 17:04:10
63.   bhsportsguy
57 I heard last night that Burrell was something like 6-10 when Howard was IBB ahead of him, he went 0-2 last night so now he is 7-13.
2006-09-29 17:04:36
64.   Marty
JIm, hope you are enjoying Carson City. I won $2 in a nickel slot machine there when I was 17 and have been hooked ever since.
2006-09-29 17:04:57
65.   Bob Timmermann
But Ramirez and Uggla lead off with singles.
2006-09-29 17:05:09
66.   underdog
Two on for Cabrera - let's go Miguel!
2006-09-29 17:05:58
67.   Marty
Jamie Moyer is close to 60 isn't he?
2006-09-29 17:06:54
68.   willhite
62 -

Thank you Bob. I'm delighted that Nick is getting all of this publicity, which is probably more than he received during his entire pitching career (which also included a stay with the Angels).

Stan 51 may be thinking of Larry Miller, whom I believe tossed far softer than Willhite.

2006-09-29 17:07:10
69.   blue22
He turns 44 next month. I guess that's close to 60.
2006-09-29 17:07:16
70.   popup
56 Really. I remember watching him on tv from Dodger Stadium and I was sure it was the year the Phils were fighting for the pennant. I remember the Phils had all kind of problems against lefty pitchers in 64 until they picked up Frank Thomas. Of course at the end of 64 they were having all kinds of problems against all pitchers.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-09-29 17:07:22
71.   Icaros

My dad and I used to do the exact same thing every night in Solano County.

I remember sitting in the driveway listening to Hershiser break Drysdale's record in our '87 Integra.

Sometimes we'd have to drive it down the street a bit to get better reception.

2006-09-29 17:08:29
72.   underdog
speaking of popup... that's what Cabrera just did. Feh.
2006-09-29 17:10:32
73.   50 years a Dodger Fan
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the purpose of this and other blogs is to allow the responder to post what they really feel, for catharitic effects if nothing else. I have never killed anyone yet... Baseball is an emotional subject and it brings out strong feelings in people. I'd rather say what I feel and get it overwith than to suppress it. Yes, I really have no right to inflict the verbalization of my opinion on anyone else. But I read a ton of opinions here everyday that I disagree with, so I thought it was kind of OK. I don't expect what I write to influence anyone in any way. I am not a professional writer, I am not afraid to criticize Dodger officials because I don't ever hope or expect to work for them.
2006-09-29 17:11:23
74.   Bob Timmermann
Time for the old friend to deliver!
2006-09-29 17:11:31
75.   fanerman
67 - He's more than halfway there. So yup. He's close to 60.
2006-09-29 17:11:52
76.   joekings
Can old friend Cody Ross help us out?
2006-09-29 17:11:57
77.   bhsportsguy
Old friend Cody Ross trying to duplicate some early season magic.
2006-09-29 17:12:20
78.   underdog
Yep, it's up to our buddy Cody Ross here, with bases loaded and 2 outs. Looked like Moyer pitched around Helms. It's already 0-2. Come on Cody!
2006-09-29 17:12:39
79.   underdog
We're like a Geek Chorus here.
2006-09-29 17:12:42
80.   blue22
75 - Ack! I'm close to 60 next month???
2006-09-29 17:13:14
81.   blue22
I'm predicting a change up here.
2006-09-29 17:14:27
82.   underdog
Rats. Cody hit it fairly deep but just a lazy fly. Oh well.
2006-09-29 17:15:12
83.   Marty
I'm closer to 60 than Moyer. And I may be able to throw harder :)
2006-09-29 17:15:25
84.   thinkingblue

And speaking of clutch hitting, it's what the marlins don't have.

2006-09-29 17:17:21
85.   Greg Brock
There are many ways to tell that pennant baseball is in the air.

Rooting for Cody Ross to get a hit for the Marlins would be one of them.

2006-09-29 17:18:45
86.   Jim Hitchcock

Thanks, Marty, I am. The food isn't as diverse as L.A., but you can get some pretty great cheap buffets. My favorite is probably at Baldinis (two can eat for $10), or, as my cousin calls it, the `Casino of low self esteem'.

2006-09-29 17:20:19
87.   Bob Timmermann
Brewers take a 1-0 lead in the 1st in the Mound City.
2006-09-29 17:21:46
88.   underdog
Mound, as in Burial Mound?
2006-09-29 17:22:10
89.   Andrew Shimmin
73- You're allowed to post what you think; people who disagree are allowed to engage what you've said. It's all good. There's surely no shortage of DTers who think Lugo should be diced, pan fried, and served, with a nice chianti, in the press box.
2006-09-29 17:22:23
90.   Bob Timmermann
You got it.
2006-09-29 17:22:34
91.   underdog
Crap. Another run for the Phillies. Doesn't look like any clinching is gonna happen tonight.
2006-09-29 17:22:37
92.   bhsportsguy
Its sad when you think that Nats were a better challenge to the Phillies than the Marlins.
2006-09-29 17:23:20
93.   scooplew
71...listening to the car radio in a motel parking lot in Lake Tahoe during a summer vacation in 1964 until my late father, almost always a man of wonderful patience, decided there were better things to do with one's time...or was he worried about draining the car's battery?
2006-09-29 17:23:40
94.   underdog
89 Don't forget the fava beans!
2006-09-29 17:24:13
95.   Bob Timmermann
I think the bigger problem for the Marlins today was having to start Brian Moehler.

If only Josh Johnson were pitching ...

2006-09-29 17:24:35
96.   Jim Hitchcock
Well, no computer at home, so goodnight all.

It's going to be a lot of fun on DT this weekend.

2006-09-29 17:26:00
97.   scooplew
50 How does one underscore?
2006-09-29 17:26:02
98.   willhite
92 -

I think some people may be forgetting what expectations were for the Marlins at the beginning of the year.

If they get shut out 30-0 in all three games this weekend, they'll still have done a lot more than most of us thought they were capable of in April.

2006-09-29 17:26:18
99.   Andrew Shimmin
94- Fava beans are extra.
2006-09-29 17:27:19
100.   Jim Hitchcock

Put underscores in front and behind text

__like this__.

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2006-09-29 17:28:17
101.   Marty
Weaver gives up a run in the first.
2006-09-29 17:28:18
102.   willhite

Who are the Marlins pitching tomorrow and Sunday? What about the Phils?

2006-09-29 17:28:20
103.   fanerman
And this one is starting to look like a rout.
2006-09-29 17:29:04
104.   bhsportsguy
The Phillies were 11-5 going into this series against the Marlins so we shall have to see what happens.
2006-09-29 17:29:35
105.   underdog
98 Definitely true - the Marlins far exceeded anyone's expectations this year. I only wish they'd exceed them for a few more games.
2006-09-29 17:29:36
106.   Bob Timmermann
Wolf vs. Olsen tomorrow.
Myers vs. Willis Sunday.
2006-09-29 17:30:06
107.   bhsportsguy
Tomorrow is Olson vs. Wolf
Sunday is Willis vs. Myers
2006-09-29 17:30:44
108.   scooplew
To get an inkling about how unhappy they are in St. Louis, read Jeff Gordon's column in today's St. Louis Post Dispatch:

2006-09-29 17:31:33
109.   scooplew
Well, that didn't work. Try this:

2006-09-29 17:31:38
110.   Bob Timmermann
The long URL. The goggles! They do nothing!
2006-09-29 17:32:06
111.   underdog
Man, I'm nervous. And have to miss the first part of tonight's game.

My fingers are crossed.
My eyes are crossed.

Let's just win.

Later all!

2006-09-29 17:33:16
112.   scooplew
59 103 years, indeed!
2006-09-29 17:33:27
113.   underdog
Hah! That's too funny Bob - I just watched part of that Simpsons episode here at work today after my coworker discovered the dangerous (and likely temporary) procrastination tool known as ...

Streaming Simpsons!

2006-09-29 17:33:37
114.   fanerman
109 - Try going to "" If only for Bob's sake.
2006-09-29 17:34:00
115.   willhite

I'd give the Marlins a decent chance in both of those games. We just need to do our work in SF.

With D-Train on Sunday, they'll have an extra hitter in the lineup. I see grand-slam as a present to all Dodger fans.

2006-09-29 17:34:47
116.   Bob Timmermann
I believe Willis is only "probable" for Sunday. The Marlins wanted to shut him down early.
2006-09-29 17:35:34
117.   Bob Timmermann
Atlanta has 1st and 3rd with no outs in the 6th in a 0-0 game against Houston.
2006-09-29 17:35:38
118.   scooplew
Imagine having to start Jeff Weaver in a crucial game today.
2006-09-29 17:35:58
119.   willhite
116 -

Fine with me if we've clinched by Sat.

2006-09-29 17:36:48
120.   underdog
Um... the Marlins are being smushed today. This is ugly.

Okay, here's to a better result tonight.

2006-09-29 17:37:05
121.   Bob Timmermann
Jeff Weaver is a lot better than Jason Marquis. The Cardinals announcers last night were openly disdainful of Marquis.
2006-09-29 17:37:09
122.   scooplew
Marlins' effort tonight falling far short of Marlon's.
2006-09-29 17:37:53
123.   thinkblue0
man, this yankees lineup is's like a fantasy team. I'll be so happy when the Twinkies or Tigers spank them.

Looks like the Phils all but have this one wrapped up....let's get on the board early against Lowry.

2006-09-29 17:38:23
124.   fanerman
Old friend Matt Herges is not helping the cause.
2006-09-29 17:38:27
125.   popup
68 I found the game Nick pitched against the Phils, and Bob is right, it was not 1964. On June 19, 1965 Nick went 8.1 innings against the Phils at Dodger Stadium and he got the win in a 4-0 Dodger victory. I remember watching that game on tv. Willhite threw nothing but slow curves as I remember and the Phils could do nothing with him.

Thanks retrosheet. What a great baseball reference that site is.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-09-29 17:38:32
126.   scooplew
121 They probably expected a lot more from Marquis. I don't think too many Cards' fans are expecting a great deal from Weaver.
2006-09-29 17:39:53
127.   Bob Timmermann
A Berkman error lets a run score for Atlanta. 1-0 in the 6th.

The Reds are ahead 3-1.

2006-09-29 17:40:16
128.   Bob Timmermann
2-0 Braves on an A. Jones single.
2006-09-29 17:46:23
129.   scooplew
Noah Lowry in September -- 4 starts, 0-3, 14.36 ERA.
2006-09-29 17:48:15
130.   scooplew
2-1 Cardinals after two innings.
2006-09-29 17:50:53
131.   Telemachos
129 Which means he'll pitch 7 shut-out innings against us, unfortunately. :(
2006-09-29 18:00:14
132.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, he's no Tim Stauffer!
2006-09-29 18:01:09
133.   scooplew
131 Bite your tongue!
2006-09-29 18:28:39
134.   tjshere
Just doing my part to get us past 150 posts. So, are we going to top 1600 tonight?
2006-09-29 18:40:20
135.   dianagramr
gark I hate pujols ....
2006-09-29 18:50:28
136.   scooplew
Final: Atlanta 4, Houston 1
2006-09-29 18:52:06
137.   Robert Daeley
Holy crap, somebody on ESPN is talking about Russell Martin during a ROY discussion. Stop the presses!
2006-09-29 18:53:07
138.   Bob Timmermann
But the Devil Rays lose again on the road!
2006-09-29 18:54:16
139.   dianagramr
137 if its John Kruk ....
2006-09-29 18:57:45
140.   dianagramr

thanks for the update Bob!

2 more losses to a sub .250 road record ...

2006-09-29 18:58:23
141.   dianagramr
KC ties up game with Tigers with 2 outs in top of 9th .... still batting 5-5 ...
2006-09-29 19:00:36
142.   xaphor
The fans in Atlanta looked like they enjoyed getting some revenge on the Astros for last year.
2006-09-29 19:02:27
143.   DodgerHobbit
Sculley bought a new suit?
2006-09-29 19:02:58
144.   Zak
So, with Houston losing and Cards looking like their magic number will be 2 by the end of the night, I really want to win the NL West now. I think the Dodger team would be favorite in that series against the Cards, 0-7 record notwithstanding.
2006-09-29 19:03:37
145.   DodgerHobbit
sorry for mispelling his name
2006-09-29 19:03:55
146.   Robert Daeley
139 Ah, no wonder -- Eric Karros is one of the color commentators. :)
2006-09-29 19:09:03
147.   Bob Timmermann
Team hitting stats records check:
ABs - The Dodgers need to average 39 ABs in the last three games to set the team record, which isn't all that likely
Runs - The Dodgers would need to average over 11 runs per game to break the team record. That is very unlikely
Hits - Each one adds to the team record
Doubles - Same as hits
Triples - The Dodgers need 10 to tie the team record. Sorry.
Home runs - Only 60 short of the record!
Total bases - See doubles
XBH - See total bases
Sacrifice hits - 55 short!
Sacrifice flies - 18 short!
Walks - 77 short!
Strikeouts - 255 short!
HBP - 21 short
RBI - 5 short! Record is 781 in 1962.
LOB - The Dodgers need 23 LOB in the series to tie the record. Pretty tough.
Batting average - .004 lead (.276 to .272)
Slugging - .002 lead (.433 to .431)
OBP - .007 lead (.349 to .342)
2006-09-29 19:11:40
148.   dianagramr
What about team OPS? :-)
2006-09-29 19:13:56
149.   Zak
147 Another 19 run game and we should have the ABs record too.

And if James Loney plays all three days, we may have the HRs and triples record too.

2006-09-29 19:14:41
150.   ToyCannon
A little blurb from BaseballHQ on Broxton:

"Broxton shows impressive second half growth... Throughout the season analysts have frequently mentioned the excellent skills displayed by LA RHP Jonathan Broxton, who has been especially impressive for a 22 year-old rookie. But a close look at Broxton's numbers shows one more reason to be impressed by his performance.

Period/Level IP ERA Ctl Dom Cmd HR/9 BPV
============ === ==== === === === ==== ===
2005 AA 96 3.27 2.7 8.4 3.1 0.4 114*
1st half '06 LA 36 3.47 4.2 10.7 2.5 1.2 91
2nd half '06 LA 37 1.96 3.7 12.3 3.3 0.5 139

Broxton was excellent in the first half, showing improved dominance, but his walk rate and home run rate were a bit elevated in his first exposure to the majors. Look at what he accomplished in the second half. He brought his home run rate back to his minor league level, improved his control, and continued to increase his dominance"

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2006-09-29 19:15:57
151.   Zak
So, in all seriousness, does anyone think that, offensively, this is the best Dodger team ever? I mean, historically it's hard to argue, right? But we don't even have anyone with more than 20 HRs or 100 RBIs. Strange!
2006-09-29 19:19:18
152.   Bob Timmermann
It may be the best LA Dodger team in terms of offense, but the 1953 Brooklyn squad was extraordinarily good.

2006-09-29 19:20:34
153.   Eric Enders
151 1953 begins and ends the argument. All the other Dodger offenses can duke it out for second place.
2006-09-29 19:21:55
154.   tjshere
How long before the cameras start showing all the "Not Here" signs that figure to be on display tonight?
2006-09-29 19:24:43
155.   trainwreck
Why is Nomar even playing? Shouldn't he be resting?
2006-09-29 19:24:52
156.   dianagramr
Omar Vizquel ... a future HOFer?
2006-09-29 19:25:59
157.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers clinched the NL West in San Francisco in 1977.

I believe the Giants have clinched at Dodgers Stadium twice. In 1962 of course and also in 1989, although that didn't happen until the Padres lost an extra-inning game at home. The Dodgers won three straight games behind Wetteland, Ramon Martinez, and Belcher.

2006-09-29 19:27:27
158.   Bob Timmermann


2006-09-29 19:30:02
159.   Zak
156 Ask Joe Morgan :)
2006-09-29 19:31:26
160.   xaphor
Arizona on the board in the 3rd with a 2 run shot by Byrnes.
2006-09-29 19:32:08
161.   Bob Timmermann
Omar Vizquel suffers from the misfortune of being a shortstop in era of Ripken, Jeter, Rodriguez, and Tejada. And Vizquel doesn't have the same mystique as Ozzie Smith or even Luis Aparicio.
2006-09-29 19:35:30
162.   scooplew
What an annoying shriek by the person who is announcing the batters at the Dodgers-Giants game. How very un-John Ramsey like.
2006-09-29 19:37:04
163.   xaphor
163. Don't they have a female announcer up there?
2006-09-29 19:39:28
164.   Greg S
162. It's a kid. What, do you hate kids? tsk tsk.
2006-09-29 19:39:33
165.   scooplew
163 Yes
2006-09-29 19:39:57
166.   scooplew
165 It's not a kid.
2006-09-29 19:40:11
167.   xaphor
163. Since I asked myself, I might as well answer.

They have a kid announce the batters for an inning.

2006-09-29 19:41:01
168.   trainwreck
That looked foul.
2006-09-29 19:45:05
169.   Greg S
Kenny caught that ball and I am:

a) happy
b) shocked
c) relieved
d) all of the above

2006-09-29 19:47:26
170.   JoeyP
Pedro Feliz is an example of why not to evalute players based on how many RBI's they accumulate. He's having one of the worst seasons ever for a player with close to 100RBI's.
2006-09-29 19:47:33
171.   bearlurker
2006-09-29 19:48:16
172.   scooplew
167 They usually do it in the middle of the game after making a big deal about it.
2006-09-29 19:48:19
173.   tjshere
I'm not in the mood for a nail-biter here. Let's score some runs. Lots and lots of runs.
2006-09-29 19:49:05
174.   JoeyP
That was a mistake by Kuo with the pitcher on deck.
2006-09-29 19:49:05
175.   Greg S
Darn DirecTV Extra Innings and your promise of all the games I want to see. I want to see the Padres game and you deny me.
2006-09-29 19:50:23
176.   trainwreck
Vizquel can't retire soon enough.
2006-09-29 19:53:48
177.   Bob Timmermann
I guess Vizquel would remind you of Willie Mays if Willie Mays had been a banjo-hitting shortstop.
2006-09-29 19:54:25
178.   scooplew
My last comment about the announcer: From the Giants' web site: "At every early-afternoon game, one young Giants fan is selected to announce the first three batters of a designated inning." Now, back to the game.
2006-09-29 19:54:36
179.   JoeyP
I hope tonight isnt a cruel regression from yesterday's game.
2006-09-29 19:54:54
180.   Chiron Brown
173 I think we'll need to get some hits before we worry about runs. Of course, if Kuo doesn't start getting his pitches down it's not going to matter.
2006-09-29 19:55:09
181.   tjshere
Just don't make fun of Vizquel's bald spot. I have one like it.
2006-09-29 19:55:23
182.   still bevens
Post #131 is starting to gain traction =(
2006-09-29 19:57:58
183.   dianagramr
ok .... the kids need to be told their intros have to be shorter than 5 seconds ...
2006-09-29 19:58:04
184.   xaphor
Vizquel shows Bob where he can put his banjo. :)
2006-09-29 19:59:31
185.   JoeyP
I'm surprised Kuo is pitching to Barry Bonds with two bases open.
2006-09-29 20:00:19
186.   dianagramr
I just checked .... Feliz has actually driven in 17.25% of runners on base this year. Not too shabby. (Leader is at 22%)
2006-09-29 20:01:03
187.   Bob Timmermann
Why not? Durham got a hit off of last time. Bonds didn't.
2006-09-29 20:01:18
188.   Greg S
185 Dare I say it, Bonds actually looked outmatched there.
2006-09-29 20:01:20
189.   Gen3Blue
In a situation like this they are going to sit Loney. This may seem like the conservative,correct thing to do at first, but I think when you dwell on it a bit, it seems utterly incompetant and ludichris.
2006-09-29 20:02:27
190.   Bob Timmermann
2006-09-29 20:05:35
191.   Vishal
i'm grateful to have anything at all, including choppy, discolored, but it's annoying to have the giants broadcast instead of vinny. the trivia question: "who were the 2 giants on base when joe morgan hit a 3-run homer against the dodgers on october 2, 1982?" ugh.
2006-09-29 20:07:31
192.   Bob Timmermann
And if you get the answer right without looking it up, I'd be very impressed.
2006-09-29 20:08:02
193.   Bob Timmermann
Cardinals win 10-5. Their magic number is 2.
2006-09-29 20:09:46
194.   Gen3Blue
Vizquel may not have the gun that Furcal has, but he rarely makes throwing errors and he is 2 for 2 where Furcal is 0-2, as is Nomar. And now I'm hearing about how Nomar is hurting for this weather, but is game till the end. This while he is taking abs. from a man who had 9 rbis yesterday. Im afraid this team has peaked.
2006-09-29 20:09:59
195.   Andrew Shimmin
I wouldn't have guessed so, but I must know more Japanese than Google. Its guess was: "Enclosure 泓 Will." But I know it was "Failure of Will!"
2006-09-29 20:10:49
196.   dianagramr
so ..... randy johnson has a herniated disk in his back, but may ONLY miss the 1st round of the playoffs ....

that would be some pretty quick healing ... wouldn't it?

2006-09-29 20:11:30
197.   popup
191 My guess is Barry Bonds and Omar Vizquel or maybe Moises Alou.

Stan from Tacoma

2006-09-29 20:12:29
198.   xaphor
195. It's Chinese for Kuo's name.
2006-09-29 20:13:47
199.   JoeyP
Loney's probably being sat bc Lowry is left-handed, and Nomar has had success against Lowry earlier in the year.
2006-09-29 20:13:52
200.   Gen3Blue
Kuo has done well with no support.
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2006-09-29 20:14:47
201.   still bevens
Nomar has looked at approximately 2 pitches this game.
2006-09-29 20:15:26
202.   Vishal
[192] in my head i have them cast as "villain #2" and "villain #3" of that episode. that's all the information i need.
2006-09-29 20:15:39
203.   Gen3Blue
199 That makes some sense, but may not make a win.
2006-09-29 20:16:36
204.   scareduck
190 - showoff :)
2006-09-29 20:16:54
205.   Andrew Shimmin
198- Ah. Well, there you go. Thanks.
2006-09-29 20:17:05
206.   Vishal
oh, the chinese characters! yeah, that's kuo's name. i looked it up the other day when xeifrank was talking about it :)
2006-09-29 20:18:34
207.   Bob Timmermann
For the record, the runners were Guy Sularz and Bob Brenly.
2006-09-29 20:20:50
208.   das411
Alright, if all the scores from right now hold this thing is still salvageable...I kinda like that Mark Kreidler article today on about how the entire playoff situation this year is up to...Barry Bonds and the Giants!
2006-09-29 20:23:13
209.   Nagman
Ryan Klesko is up with I think his third AB of the season, w/2 outs first and third.
2006-09-29 20:23:18
210.   JoeyP
Ryan Klesko sighting in Arizona.
2006-09-29 20:23:27
211.   xaphor
Speaking of Brenly, the Padres are threatening with runners on the corners, two outs and Klesko batting for Hensley in the 7th.
2006-09-29 20:24:15
212.   Andrew Shimmin
So, if Bonds is serious about not signing an incentive-centric contract, who would sign him?
2006-09-29 20:24:42
213.   Nagman
... and he knocks in a run. It was not a pretty at bat.
2006-09-29 20:24:50
214.   Bob Timmermann
Ryan Klesko is getting a full playoff share now.
2006-09-29 20:25:36
215.   JoeyP
Klesko, apparently still alive, makes it 2-1 Dbax.
2006-09-29 20:26:20
216.   Bob Timmermann
Vin is handing out asterisks tonight.
2006-09-29 20:27:06
217.   Greg S
Vin with big ups to Gil Hodges. No love for James Loney.
2006-09-29 20:28:18
218.   Bob Timmermann
Vin really liked Gil Hodges. I would have to say that Hodges is Vin's alltime favorite Dodger.
2006-09-29 20:28:34
219.   xaphor
Humidor or no, LA has been going to Denver for several 'dry ball' seasons and had not done what Loney did.

And Roberts pops up to end the inning.

2006-09-29 20:30:10
220.   Greg S
Did Julio Lugo ever really hit a home run or it that just urban legend?
2006-09-29 20:31:07
221.   bearlurker
That was a weak AB by Lugo.
2006-09-29 20:31:28
222.   xaphor
I wish Julio Lugo was an urban legend.
2006-09-29 20:31:55
223.   natepurcell

everything about Lugo has been weak.

2006-09-29 20:32:34
224.   tjshere
I guess maybe we'll have to get to the Giants bullpen before we can think about scoring.
2006-09-29 20:33:49
225.   tjshere
That was a really ugly nice play by Drew.
2006-09-29 20:34:33
226.   scooplew
3-1 D'Backs in the 7th...
2006-09-29 20:34:39
227.   Bob Timmermann
Mixing urban legends together, Julio Lugo has two home runs against Cole Hamels.
2006-09-29 20:34:58
228.   gpellamjr
So, is Lugo on any potential playoff roster? He's been completely unproductive.
2006-09-29 20:35:50
229.   Gen3Blue
Kuo's line is good 5h 0bb 5K.
But Lowries is better due to 1 hit. This could well be the d's offenses' fault.
2006-09-29 20:35:52
230.   bearlurker
I mean Lugo has a 2-0 count, why make such a feeble cut on a changeup?
2006-09-29 20:35:55
231.   Bob Timmermann
Why would Lugo be playing so much if the Dodgers had no intention of using him after Sunday/Monday?
2006-09-29 20:36:33
232.   Johnny Nucleo
Randy Winn is having a typical Marlon Anderson kind of year.
2006-09-29 20:37:10
233.   spacebrother
Is anyone else getting an annoying pop-up on the gameday window?
2006-09-29 20:38:35
234.   tjshere
That drive to center sure looked catchable.
2006-09-29 20:38:45
235.   trainwreck
Lofton you sir are fired.
2006-09-29 20:38:47
236.   bearlurker
Another awful play by Lofton.
2006-09-29 20:39:26
237.   capdodger
Who the hell put scrappydog out there!??
2006-09-29 20:41:08
238.   Vishal
this is my rather uninformed attempt to sinicize bob's name: 拔簿提们儿门
2006-09-29 20:42:25
239.   Daniel Zappala
That does look rather sinister, good job.
2006-09-29 20:42:48
240.   Andrew Shimmin
238- We promote books mention abuse doors.
2006-09-29 20:45:50
241.   Vishal
hmm, that was supposed to be "kick doors". and where's "mention" in there? the 儿 is just for pronunciation.
2006-09-29 20:46:55
242.   capdodger
Well, at least Kuo is making Barry look awful.
2006-09-29 20:46:57
243.   xaphor
241. Babel fish translates that to Pulls out the book raising gate in Chinese.
2006-09-29 20:47:20
244.   still bevens
223 I hereby refer everyone back to 6
2006-09-29 20:47:46
245.   Jon Weisman
73 - "Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the purpose of this and other blogs is to allow the responder to post what they really feel, for catharitic effects if nothing else. I have never killed anyone yet... Baseball is an emotional subject and it brings out strong feelings in people. I'd rather say what I feel and get it overwith than to suppress it. Yes, I really have no right to inflict the verbalization of my opinion on anyone else. But I read a ton of opinions here everyday that I disagree with, so I thought it was kind of OK. I don't expect what I write to influence anyone in any way. I am not a professional writer, I am not afraid to criticize Dodger officials because I don't ever hope or expect to work for them."

You're a little wrong. As I've said before, Dodger Thoughts is not everyone's rubber room. As the guidelines indicate, it is not the place for people just to work things out of their system without regard to the discussion as a whole. It is a place for enthusiastic discussion, sure, but civil discussion.

Though I didn't think it was enough to make a big deal out of at the time, since you're asking, I think comment 32 was plainly distasteful. There are plenty of ways to express unhappiness with Lugo's performance without sounding so flat-out mean. You can post what you feel, but like in any public forum, you should frame your words in a civil way.

2006-09-29 20:48:03
246.   joekings
This is not how I pictured the evening going, except for the Padres losing part.
2006-09-29 20:48:58
247.   Jon Weisman
I know that ball by Winn was hit hard, but I think Kuo deserved better that inning.
2006-09-29 20:49:19
248.   Bob Timmermann
Rudy Seanez is pitching now.

All is well.

2006-09-29 20:50:19
249.   scooplew
245 Jon: You should be a diplomat, or at least teach classes on civility.
2006-09-29 20:50:52
250.   capdodger
247 - He deserved to have Lofton catch that ball. The route he took was via Concord.
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2006-09-29 20:51:01
251.   joekings
What happened to Kemp...he's looked awful.
2006-09-29 20:51:28
252.   capdodger
The Dodgers had better win this game or MILLIONS OF PEOPLE MAY DIE!
2006-09-29 20:51:42
253.   Gen3Blue
Kemp needs to be played consistantly, he may need a bit more MiL experience. Loney just needs to play. We will see how our vets respond to the third time around.
2006-09-29 20:52:05
254.   Bob Timmermann
If Lofton had taken a route via Benicia, would he had to have paid a toll going from San Francisco?
2006-09-29 20:52:28
255.   bearlurker
At least Kemp worked the count a little. Lowry's pretty nasty tonight and his mix of speeds gives Kemp problems.
2006-09-29 20:52:46
256.   MMSMikey
Kemp. Never take the bat off your shoulders.
2006-09-29 20:52:54
257.   dianagramr

rofl .... let's hear it for Jack Bauer!

2006-09-29 20:53:00
258.   Bob Timmermann
The Jack Bauer School of Managing.
2006-09-29 20:54:17
259.   Bob Timmermann
Despite the Dodgers paltry hit total, they should still have a comfortable lead in the BA record chase.

Big denominators are your friend this time of year.

2006-09-29 20:54:18
260.   capdodger
254 - I forget where the tolls are up there. It's been years since I drove around. Maybe that's why he was late getting to it. He had to stop and change a $100 so that he could pay the toll. Get that man a EZPass or it's equivalent.
2006-09-29 20:54:21
261.   bearlurker
Lofton shouldn't be up there first pitch swinging. Crummy at bat for him, he needed to work the count. We've got to get to the bullpen.
2006-09-29 20:54:36
262.   Vishal
[243] eh, that's not so bad. i was trying to get it to suggest a librarian revolutionary :)
2006-09-29 20:54:38
263.   dianagramr
Hmmm .... the Indians are 8 games under .500 despite outscoring their opps. by 80 (!) runs this year.
2006-09-29 20:54:44
264.   spacebrother
Or millions of voices may cry out in panic, only to be suddenly silenced.
2006-09-29 20:54:48
265.   MMSMikey
its possible nomar is hurting the team by playing. olmedo is just sitting in the dugout.
2006-09-29 20:54:57
266.   Gen3Blue
Nomar will hit a HR in his fourth or fifth at bat. I hope it is enough. He would do as well if put in for Loney for his fifth at bat, but it probably wouldn't matter at that point, for we would be ahead.
2006-09-29 20:55:13
267.   Dodger Hill
Me thinks that the Dodgers really need to get Lowry out of the game.
2006-09-29 20:55:45
268.   Johnny Nucleo
251 - He's on the Kevin Maas career trajectory plan at this point.

That's not actually a fair or accurate statement, given Kemp's youth, but it has been sure been feeling like it lately.

2006-09-29 20:56:08
269.   xaphor
260. The Giants beating us with the old Blazing Saddles gag.
2006-09-29 20:56:08
270.   JoeyP
Can the bullpen hold the game at 3 runs?
Just dont let it be Carrara.
2006-09-29 20:57:17
271.   JoeyP
I forgot that Sele hasnt been able to get anyone out since June.
2006-09-29 20:57:27
272.   joekings
270 - I think we know the answer to that.
2006-09-29 20:57:48
273.   Gen3Blue
Kuo had remarkable control tonight. What a starter.
2006-09-29 20:58:00
274.   Bob Timmermann
テイフフソ is I believe what my surname is in Japanese.
2006-09-29 20:58:51
275.   xaphor
Every time the Dodgers lose God kills a kitten.
2006-09-29 20:59:47
276.   Gen3Blue
Oh God. Please don't give us the Alous. I am suspicious of our management now. Only palamony could support that.
2006-09-29 21:00:03
277.   joekings
276-Everytime the Giants win he kills two.
2006-09-29 21:00:09
278.   Bob Timmermann
No, every time the Dodgers lose, God allows an owl to capture a kitten.

It's a very specific problem.

2006-09-29 21:00:36
279.   capdodger
Every third pitch is a hung breaking ball. I have a bad feeling about this.
2006-09-29 21:01:29
280.   dianagramr
Do owls have affinities for kittens?

I did not know that ....

(glad I read DT every day)

2006-09-29 21:02:22
281.   Greg S
278 But some owls are endangered; couldn't this help them?

I really don't want to pay attention to this game.

2006-09-29 21:03:10
282.   MMSMikey
lets go guys. we need baserunners.
2006-09-29 21:03:19
283.   joekings
Perhaps that will inspire the Dodgers.
2006-09-29 21:03:34
284.   JoeyP
Wow..that last inning certainly can give Larry Krueger some material.

Talk about "not being able to walk" off the island.


2006-09-29 21:04:01
285.   trainwreck
If an owl can get a kitten he deserves to eat it.
2006-09-29 21:04:28
286.   capdodger
279 - I guess the Giants like to swing and miss at hung breaking balls. It's a good thing.
2006-09-29 21:04:40
287.   Bob Timmermann

Such a good word for tonight.

The word comes from the mythological figure "Tantalus": "Name of a mythical king of Phrygia, son of Zeus and the nymph Pluto, condemned, for revealing the secrets of the gods, to stand in Tartarus up to his chin in water, which constantly receded as he stooped to drink, and with branches of fruit hanging above him which ever fled his grasp; a rock is also said to have hung over him threatening to fall."

From the OED.

2006-09-29 21:05:05
288.   Nagman
274 - Bob, that is incorrect. That spells "tee-foo-foon". The kana is close, it should be "tee-mah-mahn" (sorta, I'm not quite sure how to spell it how it sounds).
2006-09-29 21:05:24
289.   Bob Timmermann
The owls are now what they seem.
2006-09-29 21:05:55
290.   Johnny Nucleo
270 - Personally, I have nightmares about Hamulack.
2006-09-29 21:05:58
291.   Bob Timmermann
I was copying it from a book, but I can't match up my fonts.
2006-09-29 21:06:12
292.   JoeyP
Hopefully Felipe Alou sleeps through this inning. Lowry turns into batting practice after 80 pitches. He's at 85 right now.
2006-09-29 21:06:32
293.   Terry A
285 - My kids love that book: "If You Give An Owl a Kitten..."
2006-09-29 21:07:34
294.   dzzrtRatt
Mr. Consistency!
2006-09-29 21:07:46
295.   MMSMikey
drew got decent wood on that ball.
2006-09-29 21:07:52
296.   Greg S
JD is locked and loaded!
2006-09-29 21:07:56
297.   dianagramr
286 are you allowed to write "hung breaking balls" nowadays?

(Homeland Security may be knocking on your door)

2006-09-29 21:08:00
298.   Nagman
2006-09-29 21:08:17
299.   JoeyP
Just stay in your seat Felipe.
Nothing to see here....
2006-09-29 21:08:17
300.   tjshere
"Jay" "Dee" "Drew"

"Jay" "Dee" "Drew"

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2006-09-29 21:08:21
301.   Bob Timmermann
テイママソ ?
2006-09-29 21:08:22
302.   Terry A
We have a 20-homer guy.
2006-09-29 21:08:30
303.   capdodger
Nice!!! That was Crushed.
2006-09-29 21:08:31
304.   Greg S
Oh if we can steal this one...
2006-09-29 21:08:32
305.   adraymond
20! A Dodgers has 20!
2006-09-29 21:08:39
306.   Andrew Shimmin
An evening of cryptography. Anybody know what the gang signal the Dodger hat wearing young woman just threw, meant?
2006-09-29 21:08:55
307.   dianagramr
Give an owl a kitten, feed it for a day.
Teach an owl to catch a kitten, feed it for a lifetime.
2006-09-29 21:09:08
308.   dzzrtRatt
289 The owls used to not be what they seem. But, you're saying, now they are?

Agent Cooper will be relieved.

2006-09-29 21:09:09
309.   JoeyP
LOl..ah man he's leaving him in.
2006-09-29 21:09:16
310.   Jon Weisman
302 - We have two!
2006-09-29 21:09:46
311.   regfairfield
302 Two guys with 20.
2006-09-29 21:09:55
312.   Bob Timmermann
Two outs in Phoenix.
2006-09-29 21:10:01
313.   Andrew Shimmin
Nomar has 20, too, doesn't he?
2006-09-29 21:10:30
314.   Johnny Nucleo
Nomar Drew we have to suffer with having only one 20-homer player.
2006-09-29 21:11:00
315.   Gen3Blue
Everybody including Vin, seems to be amazed that Lowrie is pitching a two hitter.
2006-09-29 21:11:12
316.   Nagman
301 - Yes.

Techinically the second character would be smaller in size, and the last character might be wrong. The "n" character and the "soh" character are the same except for the direction of the stroke, I can't tell from the font.

2006-09-29 21:11:30
317.   Bob Timmermann
Game over in Phoenix.
2006-09-29 21:12:15
318.   spacebrother
I don't know if we're going to get to any relievers, expecially if Lowery gets out of this inning wihtout any more runs. It's the last game he'll pitch this season.
2006-09-29 21:12:30
319.   adraymond
Madres lose!
2006-09-29 21:12:40
320.   MMSMikey
lugo, heres a perfect time for your first homerun/clutch hit as a dodger.
2006-09-29 21:12:47
321.   Greg S
Here comes THE MAN
2006-09-29 21:13:01
322.   spacebrother
I mean "especially"
2006-09-29 21:13:11
323.   Nagman
Hopefully the Dodgers get some inspiration from the scoreboard.
2006-09-29 21:13:23
324.   Terry A
The owls didn't get Nomar? I thought I heard that.
2006-09-29 21:13:39
325.   spacebrother
Time for the impossible.
2006-09-29 21:13:42
326.   dianagramr
OK ... why am I not seeing any chinese characters in these posts?
2006-09-29 21:14:38
327.   dzzrtRatt
I can get the Padre station in my car. It was hilarious before the game, all their idiots who could just tell the Padres would win based on their "all-business" attitude in the dugout. "Oh, they'll win tonight," they were saying with this dopey confidence. They've got the Pads slotted already for the World Series.

Listening to idiots like Tim Flannery, Randy Jones, and the hideous Ted Lightner, it makes you really appreciate not just Vin, but Charlie, Rick and "A" too. They're not such cheap dates.

2006-09-29 21:14:43
328.   MMSMikey
thats shocking. what a waste.
2006-09-29 21:14:52
329.   Bob Timmermann
ITP homer for Chone Figgins to make it 6-0 Angels over Oakland.
2006-09-29 21:14:57
330.   Greg S
How can one mad do so much damage to our season?
2006-09-29 21:15:15
331.   Gen3Blue
Don't let Lugo bat!
2006-09-29 21:15:29
332.   Nagman
Is this too early for Saenz?
2006-09-29 21:15:42
333.   xaphor
291. テイママン is the katakana for "Te i ma ma n"

you were using フ which is 'fu' or Tifufun :)

2006-09-29 21:15:49
334.   MMSMikey
is lugo even going to be on the postseason roster if we get there. we need to get raffy up this inning.
2006-09-29 21:15:55
335.   Vishal
[326] perhaps you don't have the fonts installed?
2006-09-29 21:15:56
336.   Bob Timmermann
Check the coding on your web browser. It's usually under "view".
2006-09-29 21:16:00
337.   dzzrtRatt
What is Grady saving Saenz for? Is he too busy doing something else? This is his moment.
2006-09-29 21:16:01
338.   JoeyP
Why on earth is Lugo swinging 2-0 against a pitcher that is dead tired??

Maybe LUgo should join the Giants.
They are the team to play for if you're a braindead hacker.

2006-09-29 21:16:03
339.   Greg S
328 What's shocking? Julio Lugo popping up in an important situation? I believe that is the opposite of shocking.
2006-09-29 21:16:48
340.   Gen3Blue
And you are batting Betemit right handed.
I approved your trades. You don't have to prove anything--I'd rather win.
2006-09-29 21:17:14
341.   dzzrtRatt
Pathetic. A bad matchup.
2006-09-29 21:17:15
342.   StolenMonkey86
339 - I'm thankful he didn't GIDP
2006-09-29 21:17:20
343.   Johnny Nucleo
Straw poll here on the DT reaction to Lugo popping out: Surprise? Disbelief?

Sarcasm here, no need to answer.

2006-09-29 21:17:37
344.   MMSMikey
2006-09-29 21:17:45
345.   JoeyP
Felipe Alou just gave the Dodgers a gift, and Lugo/Betemit hack away and blow it.
2006-09-29 21:17:49
346.   Vishal
yeah, why didn't saenz pinch-hit?? that makes no sense.
2006-09-29 21:17:55
347.   capdodger
That was stupid. That was probably the best chance.
2006-09-29 21:18:23
348.   joekings
If I speak about Lugo I may break all 10 of Jon's rules.
2006-09-29 21:18:53
349.   Jay Jaffe
306 I think she was making an interlocking LA logo (like on the hat) with her hands but it was backwards.
2006-09-29 21:19:10
350.   Nagman
I think it is wishful thinking that Lugo will not be on a postseason roster should there be the need for one.
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2006-09-29 21:19:24
351.   capdodger
If I see Saenz coming in against a righty later, I'm going to scream. Again.
2006-09-29 21:19:33
352.   Greg S
344 ?? It was your comment. I was just asking what you meant.
2006-09-29 21:19:47
353.   MMSMikey
do the giants have anyone good in their pen?
2006-09-29 21:20:30
354.   MMSMikey
yeah, sorry. I was the opposite of shocking, a little sarcasm.
2006-09-29 21:20:41
355.   Andrew Shimmin
349- So, not a gang sign? That makes sense; thanks.
2006-09-29 21:20:51
356.   StolenMonkey86
348 - Just because he hasn't gotten a hit doesn't mean it's a no hitter
2006-09-29 21:20:56
357.   scooplew
Isn't that the second time tonight that Lugo meekly went out on a 2-0 pitch?
2006-09-29 21:21:14
358.   Vishal
[352] 328 seemed like sarcasm to me.
2006-09-29 21:21:18
359.   StolenMonkey86
353 - Mike Stanton is their closer
2006-09-29 21:21:56
360.   MMSMikey
yeah, he had a 2-0 pitch and hit a que job to 2nd base.
2006-09-29 21:22:01
361.   spacebrother
I like Beimel's Gameday picture, but I can't decide if he looks crafty or moronic.
2006-09-29 21:22:28
362.   Jon Weisman
Jay Jaffe in the house!
2006-09-29 21:22:37
363.   spacebrother
So far...crafty.
2006-09-29 21:23:13
364.   Greg S
359 You mean Old Man Stanton from down the road? He's still alive?
2006-09-29 21:23:16
365.   Bob Timmermann
I'm trying to figure out what the best set of fingers are to make an interlocking LA?

And then I'm grateful that I'm not a Cardinals fan trying to do that with that team's logo.

2006-09-29 21:24:18
366.   StolenMonkey86
362- I think that was my pediatrician's name
2006-09-29 21:24:31
367.   spacebrother

...or New York.

2006-09-29 21:24:35
368.   dianagramr
365 Or an Expos fan from the early days
2006-09-29 21:25:21
369.   Bob Timmermann
The Giants bullpen is pretty much Mike Stanton and maybe Vinnie Chulk. The rest of it is chuck and duck.
2006-09-29 21:25:28
370.   Nagman
So looking at Beimel's move... the knee can go behind as long as the foot doesn't? Seems that is deceptive to the runner.
2006-09-29 21:25:28
371.   Vishal
[365] index and thumb of one hand, index and middle of the other.
2006-09-29 21:25:36
372.   natepurcell
why dont umpires xall beimels balks?
2006-09-29 21:26:22
373.   MMSMikey
hey jon, howcome thers not a link to on right right side with the rest of the links?
2006-09-29 21:26:34
374.   CeyHey
saenz is being saved for Stanton
2006-09-29 21:26:44
375.   spacebrother
It still looks dumb.
2006-09-29 21:26:59
376.   Vishal
[369] so there's stanton, then chulk and sulk?
2006-09-29 21:27:12
377.   StolenMonkey86
Shea Hillenbrand. What a trade. :)
2006-09-29 21:27:13
378.   Johnny Nucleo
Beimel is 3rd in the NL in pickoffs this year, with 6.
2006-09-29 21:27:14
379.   capdodger
Come On Blue!! Bat around this inning and let the Giants know why you're (probably) going to the post-season.
2006-09-29 21:27:22
380.   Bob Timmermann
The Angels beat Oakland 6-0 and will clinch the LA/OC Metro Area battle if the Dodgers lose.
2006-09-29 21:27:44
381.   Xeifrank
373. There is a link. Under the Dodger sites. 2nd one listed!
vr, Xei
2006-09-29 21:27:45
382.   Jay Jaffe
362 Indeed. First time I've been live (not TiVo) for a west coast Dodger game on TV all year, I'll wager
2006-09-29 21:27:51
383.   Jon Weisman
373 - There is.
2006-09-29 21:27:56
384.   MMSMikey
not a good start.
2006-09-29 21:28:24
385.   Xeifrank
Ok, now their bullpen.
vr, Xei
2006-09-29 21:28:33
386.   JoeyP
Come on you're better than that.
8th inning 1st pitch hacking...
2006-09-29 21:28:51
387.   Vishal
[373] it's 2nd on the list, right under 6-4-2 .
2006-09-29 21:29:13
388.   MMSMikey
whoops, i totally missed it.
2006-09-29 21:29:26
389.   Bob Timmermann
I guess Kevin Correia isn't bad either...
2006-09-29 21:29:39
390.   Xeifrank
Lofton needs to make up for his poor defense tonight. vr, Xei
2006-09-29 21:30:17
391.   joekings
Grady will regret that 7th inning for a while I think.
2006-09-29 21:30:17
392.   spacebrother
Now is the time for lighting to strike 3 times.
2006-09-29 21:30:45
393.   librarian

Yeah, but the Dodgers didn't get to pad their wins against a bunch of weak-knee'd teams from the NL during interleague play.

Oh... wait.....

2006-09-29 21:31:15
394.   Bob Timmermann
I think he will regret very little. That's just his nature.
2006-09-29 21:31:25
395.   Terry A
390 - Just tonight's?
2006-09-29 21:31:34
396.   MMSMikey
ok, nomar. you sit tomorrow.
2006-09-29 21:31:43
397.   dzzrtRatt
Nomar's got a serious owie there.
2006-09-29 21:31:46
398.   Jon Weisman
Nomar will not be back for the bottom of the eighth, I don't think.
2006-09-29 21:31:55
399.   natepurcell
correa just totally owned our hitters.
2006-09-29 21:32:10
400.   Vishal
[362] can you tell who logs in and when?
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2006-09-29 21:32:11
401.   JoeyP
Correia just dominated that 8th inning.
Hopefully Alou still goes with Stanton in the 9th.
2006-09-29 21:32:40
402.   StolenMonkey86
396 - yes. Let's see what that Loney fellow can do. I've heard he's all right.
2006-09-29 21:33:04
403.   Xeifrank
Loney sat for that??
vr, Xei
2006-09-29 21:33:11
404.   Greg S
Like Bonds against Kuo, he looked outmatched. I'm sure both cases are due to injury but it is what it is.
2006-09-29 21:33:26
405.   MMSMikey
402, and im thinking olmedo at 3rd tomorrow as well.
2006-09-29 21:33:30
406.   capdodger
Why is Nomar even playing tonight? Left handed starter for them, strike-out starter for us.

Grady. Grady Grady....

2006-09-29 21:33:48
407.   Jon Weisman
400 - Nope. I just see the comments like you.
2006-09-29 21:33:50
408.   JoeyP
Theoretically, Saenz may not even get a chance to hit.

Drew/Kent/Martin/Anderson....cant see Saenz pinch hitting for any of those guys.

Betemit/Lugo both hit and Saenz stayed on the bench...I know Saenz was 0-6 lifetime vs Lowry, but still. He kills lefties.

2006-09-29 21:34:01
409.   Greg S
Oh man. How are we going to win with Loney in there?
2006-09-29 21:35:38
410.   Jon Weisman
406 - Considering how huge Nomar has been these past two weeks, hurt all the while, I think Grady should be cut more than a little slack for playing him.
2006-09-29 21:36:01
411.   Vishal
what happened to nomar anyway, besides the strikeout? did he visibly hurt himself or aggravate one of his injuries?
2006-09-29 21:36:15
412.   dzzrtRatt
2006-09-29 21:36:17
413.   capdodger
Someone needs to slap Grady and tell him that Nomar is off-limits for a couple of days.
2006-09-29 21:36:42
414.   Jon Weisman
411 - Yes.
2006-09-29 21:36:46
415.   JoeyP
Wow he just missed that.
2006-09-29 21:36:46
416.   Xeifrank
wow, gameday puts that flyout right next to the wall. vr, Xei
2006-09-29 21:36:47
417.   MMSMikey
how did that ball go that fall, did barry go and shoot up inbetween innings?
2006-09-29 21:37:13
418.   Nagman
411 - He struckout on a changeup and was noticeably wincing and limping as he walked back to the dugout.
2006-09-29 21:37:14
419.   capdodger
411 - He screwed himself into the ground and tweaked his back/oblique/quad or ankle.
2006-09-29 21:37:17
420.   Greg S
410. Of course. Don't need to look up the numbers to understand he has been contributing in a huge way.
2006-09-29 21:37:22
421.   StolenMonkey86
War-ning-track pow-er
2006-09-29 21:37:58
422.   Bob Timmermann
I believe Saenz hasn't played third since July 19 at Arizona when he came in as part of a double switch.
2006-09-29 21:38:14
423.   Jay Jaffe
loooks like he aggravated the oblique strain
2006-09-29 21:38:38
424.   dzzrtRatt
411 It was a change-up, but Nomar took a home run swing at it. The force of the swing seemed to aggravate the pain on his right side, and he grimaced and stumbled a bit after the swing.
2006-09-29 21:38:47
425.   JoeyP
Bonds in september has hit 7HRs and is OPS'ing over 1.000
2006-09-29 21:39:14
426.   MMSMikey
jon, on the highlight real they just showed mike marshall running around the bases on what appeared to be a homerun trot and pointing into ethier the dodgers or giants dugout, do you know what game that was?
2006-09-29 21:40:05
427.   Uncle Miltie
Just got home. How did Kuo look?

I can't believe that Grits started Lugo over Saenz!

2006-09-29 21:40:06
428.   StolenMonkey86
are Alou's lefty splits that good? Or did Beimel look tired?
2006-09-29 21:40:22
429.   Vishal
ah. thanks for the descriptions. my froze, and it wasn't really streaming in the first place.
2006-09-29 21:40:30
430.   Xeifrank
If you were gauranteed to reach first base safely every time you came to bat with a runner on first base, would you take it?
vr, Xei
2006-09-29 21:40:54
431.   Nagman
Somebody who stole home a couple days ago is removed for a pinch runner.
2006-09-29 21:40:56
432.   Gen3Blue
That does it for me. Early on I said don't complain about how Nomar is hurting, and then play him. If they played Loney, and brought in Nomar to hit for him late, IMO the game would be won now.
It looks like Loney may get to play now, but it is very late.
2006-09-29 21:41:08
433.   Greg S
428 According to Vin, the former.
2006-09-29 21:41:09
434.   capdodger
426 - I disagree. Saenz's strength is vs. LHP. Given that the remaining opposing pitchers are RHPs, this was the night to give Nomar a night off. If you need a defensive replacement later, go to Loney.
2006-09-29 21:42:09
435.   capdodger
Errr... 434 was in reply to 410.
2006-09-29 21:42:21
436.   Xeifrank
steal attempt?
vr, Xei
2006-09-29 21:42:37
437.   StolenMonkey86
Golden Sombrero!

Now let's win the game.

2006-09-29 21:42:39
438.   dzzrtRatt
Pedro Feliz is not having a Beltre-like walk year.
2006-09-29 21:42:47
439.   Johnny Nucleo
Give him the sombrero, Beef.
2006-09-29 21:42:59
440.   MMSMikey
434 are you saying start nomar tomorrow? he looks physically unable to start, with 2 bad legs. :)
2006-09-29 21:43:00
441.   JoeyP
Great night for Pedro Feliz.
Here is a Golden Sombrero!
2006-09-29 21:43:11
442.   spacebrother
Let's get them here in classic (for the last couple weeks or so) Dodger fashion.

Some free baseball wouldn't hurt, either.

2006-09-29 21:43:38
443.   Xeifrank
Ok, here we go... last chance to tie or win this game. If we make it to Lugo's spot, I wonder if he is pinch hit for (please yes!).
vr, Xei
2006-09-29 21:44:14
444.   dzzrtRatt
434 I wouldn't go that far. But when Betemit pinch hit, that should've been Saenz' at-bat. We had a chance to go ahead there if Tomato does what he often does to tired lefties.
2006-09-29 21:44:29
445.   spacebrother
What's this sombrero business?
2006-09-29 21:44:35
446.   JoeyP
Drew hasnt walked yet tonite he's due for one.
2006-09-29 21:45:37
447.   joekings
My heart skipped a beat.
2006-09-29 21:45:38
448.   capdodger
440 He might be too injured to continue, but he wouldn't have made if worse if he were sitting on the bench cheering on tomato.
2006-09-29 21:46:15
449.   dzzrtRatt
I liked that foul ball's initial trajectory.
2006-09-29 21:46:20
450.   StolenMonkey86
445 - KKKK is a golden sombrero
KKKKK is platinum
6K is a horn
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2006-09-29 21:46:25
451.   Greg S
I thought he got that. Only the sound of Vinnie's calm demeanor let me know I was wrong.
2006-09-29 21:46:26
452.   MMSMikey
does anyone remember that game about 5 years ago. the dodgers had tom goodwin, they were down by one run and he led off with a single and stole second, then advanced to 3rd on a wild pitch. then rob nenn proceded to strike out mark grudzielanked, gary sheffiled and shawn green.?
2006-09-29 21:46:36
453.   Johnny Nucleo
432 - no offence, but there is no possible way to verify the claim you make in your third sentence.
2006-09-29 21:47:07
454.   joekings
Come on J.D.!
2006-09-29 21:47:14
455.   StolenMonkey86
no out recorded :)
2006-09-29 21:47:37
456.   Xeifrank
In play, no out recorded!!! yes!! I am going to go flip the tv on and try not to wake up the 2 year old. vr, Xei
2006-09-29 21:47:47
457.   Greg S
452 Thanks for that memory.
2006-09-29 21:47:58
458.   Johnny Nucleo
450 - I've never heard of the platinum sombrero. That's a good one. Six K's might need a better name though.
2006-09-29 21:48:01
459.   capdodger
444 - That too. A little voice from the past is creeping into my head....
2006-09-29 21:48:07
460.   spacebrother

Thanks. Why sombreros? Is this a DT phenomenon?

2006-09-29 21:48:35
461.   capdodger
Although... Olmedo has a bat in hand now...
2006-09-29 21:49:37
462.   joekings
Please don't get picked off Repko.
2006-09-29 21:50:07
463.   MMSMikey
JD c'mon! that was HANGING.
2006-09-29 21:50:14
464.   Greg S
I can not believe he watched that pitch. Same pitch he hit out last time.
2006-09-29 21:50:18
465.   trainwreck
That was not what I hoped for.
2006-09-29 21:50:29
466.   Vishal
[460] nah, it's relatively common baseball slang.
2006-09-29 21:50:36
467.   JoeyP
I like Russ Martin against a LHP.
Russ will come through.
2006-09-29 21:51:06
468.   Uncle Miltie
Run Repko?

I'd do hit and run

2006-09-29 21:51:07
469.   MMSMikey
a wild pitch would be nice, take the dp away.
2006-09-29 21:51:19
470.   Johnny Nucleo
If Lugo comes up, my guess is Olmedo will bat for him. My guess, and my prayer.
2006-09-29 21:52:50
471.   MMSMikey
its all of our prayers.
2006-09-29 21:53:08
472.   Bob Timmermann
Is Cody Ransom available?
2006-09-29 21:53:08
473.   Vishal
i'd hope olmedo bats for anderson.
2006-09-29 21:53:10
474.   Greg S
2006-09-29 21:53:24
475.   Andrew Shimmin
I like Merlin, but I love this move.
2006-09-29 21:53:32
476.   JoeyP
Excellent at bat by Martin.
Russ is the smartest hitter on the team IMO.
2006-09-29 21:53:33
477.   MMSMikey
wow grady. why for marlon?
2006-09-29 21:53:33
478.   joekings
I think this move is one player too early, but then again I am not a big league manager.
2006-09-29 21:53:34
479.   natepurcell
russ with good discipline. nice
2006-09-29 21:53:39
480.   StolenMonkey86
BB Martin
2006-09-29 21:53:42
481.   dzzrtRatt
Okay, Grady, maybe you knew this would happen. Let's see if it works. Go Tomato.
2006-09-29 21:53:43
482.   spacebrother
Prayers partially answered.
2006-09-29 21:53:55
483.   D4P
Can someone help us mock Mike Stanton by providing his transaction history over the past few years...?
2006-09-29 21:54:02
484.   Greg S
Grady has a plan for all his children.
2006-09-29 21:54:06
485.   capdodger
Well... For all my complaints, this is a good spot.
2006-09-29 21:54:23
486.   bigcpa
If they Giants were actually trying to win they'd never let Stanton face Saenz right?
2006-09-29 21:54:26
487.   Uncle Miltie
Great move Grits to bring in Old Maid now.
2006-09-29 21:54:30
488.   JoeyP
If you're Felipe Alou, you cant let Stanton face Saenz.
2006-09-29 21:54:43
489.   joekings
I don't like the fact Lugo is even on the on deck circle.
2006-09-29 21:55:10
490.   Uncle Miltie
Old Maid is a stud!!!
2006-09-29 21:55:10
491.   dianagramr

June 2, 1987: Drafted by the Atlanta Braves in the 13th round of the 1987 amateur draft. Player signed June 10, 1987.

December 23, 1994: Granted Free Agency.

April 12, 1995: Signed as a Free Agent with the Atlanta Braves.

July 31, 1995: Traded by the Atlanta Braves with a player to be named later to the Boston Red Sox for players to be named later. The Atlanta Braves sent Matt Murray (August 31, 1995) to the Boston Red Sox to complete the trade. The Boston Red Sox sent Mike Jacobs (minors) (August 31, 1995) and Marc Lewis (minors) (August 31, 1995) to the Atlanta Braves to complete the trade.

July 31, 1996: Traded by the Boston Red Sox with a player to be named later to the Texas Rangers for Mark Brandenburg and Kerry Lacy. The Boston Red Sox sent Dwayne Hosey (November 4, 1996) to the Texas Rangers to complete the trade.

October 27, 1996: Granted Free Agency.

December 11, 1996: Signed as a Free Agent with the New York Yankees.

November 5, 1999: Granted Free Agency.

November 29, 1999: Signed as a Free Agent with the New York Yankees.

October 30, 2002: Granted Free Agency.

December 19, 2002: Signed as a Free Agent with the New York Mets.

December 3, 2004: Traded by the New York Mets to the New York Yankees for Felix Heredia.

July 1, 2005: Released by the New York Yankees.

July 13, 2005: Signed as a Free Agent with the Washington Nationals.

September 29, 2005: Traded by the Washington Nationals to the Boston Red Sox for Rhys Taylor (minors) and Yader Peralta (minors).

October 12, 2005: Granted Free Agency.

December 24, 2005: Signed as a Free Agent with the Washington Nationals.

2006-09-29 21:55:24
492.   dzzrtRatt
Bless you, Olmedo!
2006-09-29 21:55:32
493.   joekings
2006-09-29 21:55:41
494.   Vishal
marlon is left-handed, and we've still got ramon martinez on the bench, though i don't know if that's an improvement over lugo.
2006-09-29 21:55:52
495.   tjshere
"To" "ma" "to"

"To" "ma" "to"

2006-09-29 21:55:55
496.   StolenMonkey86
Attack of the Killer Tomato!
2006-09-29 21:56:01
497.   natepurcell
killer tomato with a smash! lol
2006-09-29 21:56:02
498.   Greg Brock


2006-09-29 21:56:03
499.   Greg S
Grady! / Olmedo!
2006-09-29 21:56:21
500.   trainwreck
Way to come through Tomato!!
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2006-09-29 21:56:25
501.   Vishal
2006-09-29 21:56:26
502.   StolenMonkey86
run for Saenz?
2006-09-29 21:56:27
503.   micktissue
Grady for MOY!!
2006-09-29 21:56:28
504.   capdodger
Yay! A parachute shot!!
2006-09-29 21:56:31
505.   JoeyP
God Bless Felipe Alou.

And now you pull him?

2006-09-29 21:56:37
506.   MMSMikey
please lugo, please.
2006-09-29 21:56:37
507.   spacebrother
Oh no...
2006-09-29 21:56:50
508.   Bob Timmermann
Mike Stanton:
Selected by Atlanta Braves in the 13th round of the free-agent draft (June 2, 1987 -
signed June 10, 1987).

Granted free agency (December 23, 1994).

Signed by Atlanta Braves (April 12, 1995).

Traded by Atlanta Braves with a player to be named later to Boston Red Sox in
exchange for 2 players to be named later (July 31, 1995); Atlanta Braves received
Mike Jacobs and Marc Lewis (August 31, 1995) and Boston Red Sox received Matt Murray
(August 31, 1995).

Traded by Boston Red Sox with a player to be named later to Texas Rangers in
exchange for Mark Brandenburg and Kerry Lacy (July 31, 1996); Texas Rangers received
Dwayne Hosey (November 4, 1996).

Granted free agency (October 27, 1996).

Signed by New York Yankees (December 11, 1996).

Granted free agency (November 5, 1999).

Signed by New York Yankees (November 29, 1999).

Granted free agency (October 30, 2002).

Signed by New York Mets (December 19, 2002).

Traded by New York Mets to New York Yankees in exchange for Felix Heredia (December
3, 2004).

Released by New York Yankees (July 1, 2005).

Signed by Washington Nationals (July 13, 2005).

Traded by Washington Nationals to Boston Red Sox in exchange for Rhys Taylor and
Yader Peralta (September 29, 2005).

Granted free agency (October 12, 2005).

Signed by Washington Nationals (December 24, 2005).

7/28/06 Giants - Acquired LHP Mike Stanton from the Washington Nationals in exchange for nonroster RHP Shairon Martis.

2006-09-29 21:56:51
509.   Franklin Stubbs
There's the reason Maddux said he was glad to never face Olmedo again.
2006-09-29 21:56:55
510.   dzzrtRatt
Has Ethier hit yet? Why is Lugo up there?
2006-09-29 21:57:01
511.   spacebrother
...not JULIO.
2006-09-29 21:57:02
512.   micktissue
Tomato sauce!
2006-09-29 21:57:02
513.   StolenMonkey86
Young. Good call, Grady.
2006-09-29 21:57:10
514.   Uncle Miltie
Grits made the right move. There was no guarantee that Lugo's spot would even come up. Maybe Lugo will get lucky and his bat will run into the ball.
2006-09-29 21:57:12
515.   bigcpa
In the name of JtD- DO SOMETHING!!
2006-09-29 21:57:22
516.   Bob Timmermann
I went to the trouble to make my mocking up to date!
2006-09-29 21:57:25
517.   MMSMikey
the book on lugo is to fall behind 2-0 then throw a fastball right down the middle.
2006-09-29 21:57:28
518.   tjshere
Doesn't it seem like Lugo's spot comes up an awful lot?
2006-09-29 21:57:30
519.   JoeyP
Maybe Felipe likes the Dodgers?
2006-09-29 21:57:35
520.   joekings
I'll take back everything i've said about lugo if he gets a hit.
2006-09-29 21:57:49
521.   bigcpa
Lugo = Feliz
2006-09-29 21:58:04
522.   trainwreck
2006-09-29 21:58:13
523.   dzzrtRatt
At least he can run faster than his crappy bat.
2006-09-29 21:58:13
524.   Uncle Miltie
At least it wasn't a double play

Lugo might steal here

2006-09-29 21:58:26
525.   micktissue
Stanton is killing my fantasy team, but OH WHAT THE HELL!!!
2006-09-29 21:58:39
526.   joekings
I guess I won't have to take anything back, he looked out at first too.
2006-09-29 21:58:44
527.   StolenMonkey86
young break up the DP?
2006-09-29 21:59:01
528.   dianagramr
508 thank you Bob
2006-09-29 21:59:02
529.   MMSMikey
just a simple little single, a duck fart, a dying quale. anythig!
2006-09-29 21:59:06
530.   Greg S
524 And get thrown out, just to hurt us in every way possible.
2006-09-29 21:59:06
531.   Bob Timmermann
If this is a tie game on the road, that means the pitcher would be ....??????
2006-09-29 21:59:18
532.   micktissue
This would be sweet poetry if Ramon can come through.
2006-09-29 21:59:38
533.   Vishal
booooooogo. at least it wasn't a DP.
2006-09-29 21:59:40
534.   JoeyP
If Lucille gets a hit here, then the Dodgers are just meant to make the playoffs.
2006-09-29 21:59:44
535.   Uncle Miltie
2006-09-29 21:59:48
536.   trainwreck
2006-09-29 21:59:51
537.   D4P
Wow, first Lucille II sighting since Arrested Development was canceled
2006-09-29 21:59:53
538.   tjshere
2006-09-29 21:59:57
539.   joekings
2006-09-29 22:00:05
540.   Greg S
I don't believe it.

We gotta win the World Series

2006-09-29 22:00:05
541.   Greg Brock
We like those wild pitches.
2006-09-29 22:00:17
542.   Bob Timmermann
The question is moot.
2006-09-29 22:00:17
543.   natepurcell
2006-09-29 22:00:17
544.   Brendan
I think Grady is thinking Lugo has to do something some time. I know that is what I am thinking Unfortunately it is not happening.


2006-09-29 22:00:19
545.   dzzrtRatt

And wouldn't you know it. As Vin always does with a runner on third... he didn't do this time.

2006-09-29 22:00:28
546.   micktissue
2006-09-29 22:00:28
547.   trainwreck
Thank you ump for getting your leg in the way.
2006-09-29 22:00:28
548.   xaphor
Stanton for MVP
2006-09-29 22:00:42
549.   Bob Timmermann
It's one base from the mound, Julio.
2006-09-29 22:00:57
550.   joekings
What is the rule on advancing anyways???
Show/Hide Comments 551-600
2006-09-29 22:01:00
551.   MMSMikey
sammy saito sammy saito baby!
2006-09-29 22:01:25
552.   dzzrtRatt
Yes, Lugo's outrunning the DP was huge. So was Martin's walk.
2006-09-29 22:01:26
553.   Jon Weisman
That ball hit the dirt and just didn't come up. It hit the dirt and rolled.
2006-09-29 22:01:32
554.   Jay Jaffe
525 mine too, but I'm enjoying this more
2006-09-29 22:01:43
555.   Bob Timmermann
See 549
2006-09-29 22:01:50
556.   xaphor
Come on Grady, let Lugo get himself kicked out. If we're lucky it might come with a suspension. :)
2006-09-29 22:02:06
557.   joekings
Ramon needs to give Saito time to warm up.
2006-09-29 22:02:34
558.   Brendan
Sammy time. this team is something else.
2006-09-29 22:02:47
559.   Jon Weisman
531 - So glad we don't have to answer that right now.
2006-09-29 22:03:05
560.   Greg S
557 I'm sure Saito was already up.
2006-09-29 22:03:19
561.   natepurcell
Lets go Sammy! You get this, you'll get a raise!
2006-09-29 22:03:22
562.   dzzrtRatt
This team is nothing like the Dodger teams that have ruined my mood so many times in the past 15 years. Those teams usually died in the ninth inning of low scoring games that they had to win.

This one kicks ass!

2006-09-29 22:03:40
563.   JoeyP
That inning was Martin's walk and Felipe Alou's letting Stanton face Saenz.

Kent's bloop and the wildpitch are luck, but the above two things are skill on the Dodgers part and incompetance on the Giants.

2006-09-29 22:04:28
564.   Bob Timmermann
7.05(h) Each runner ... may, without liability to be put out
(h) One base, if a ball, pitched to the batter, or thrown by the pitcher from his position on the pitcher's plate to a base to catch a runner, goes into a stand or a bench, or over or through a field fence or backstop. The ball is dead;
APPROVED RULING: When a wild pitch or passed ball goes through or by the catcher, or deflects off the catcher, and goes directly into the dugout, stands, above the break, or any area where the ball is dead, the awarding of bases shall be one base. One base shall also be awarded if the pitcher while in contact with the rubber, throws to a base, and the throw goes directly into the stands or into any area where the ball is dead.
If, however, the pitched or thrown ball goes through or by the catcher or through the fielder, and remains on the playing field, and is subsequently kicked or deflected into the dugout, stands or other area where the ball is dead, the awarding of bases shall be two bases from position of runners at the time of the pitch or throw.
2006-09-29 22:04:45
565.   JoeyP
562. You do know that the Dodgers if the hold on, would be like 3-58 when trailing after 7 innings? This team usually doesnt come back.
2006-09-29 22:05:23
566.   Brendan
of course Finley would be on deck
2006-09-29 22:05:25
567.   Uncle Miltie
That was a strike!
2006-09-29 22:05:37
568.   dzzrtRatt
562 Well, maybe not so much. (Thanks Vinny.) But it sure seems like it!
2006-09-29 22:05:51
569.   Fallout
Just how important is it to have a catcher who can block pitches?
2006-09-29 22:05:57
570.   Uncle Miltie
Oh well, Alfonzo is a free swinger.

Saito's slider is dirty.

2006-09-29 22:05:59
571.   scareduck
2006-09-29 22:06:21
572.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
In a game like this, it's fun watching the pockets of Dodgers fans in the stands. On replays of the wild pitch, watch for two guys sitting behind the plate to explode out of their seats in excitement.
2006-09-29 22:06:24
573.   natepurcell
that 0-2 slider was RIGHT THERE YOU STUPID UMP.
2006-09-29 22:06:31
574.   Johnny Nucleo
That was managerial foresight, saving Saenz for the chance to pitch to Stanton. Really nice to see.
2006-09-29 22:06:34
575.   joekings
564- Thanks Bob makes sense.
2006-09-29 22:06:59
576.   Jay Jaffe
there is just no reason I want to see steve finley right now. Let's just nip that plotline in the bud.
2006-09-29 22:07:21
577.   dzzrtRatt
Boy... Finley is having another lousy season. At the beginning of the year, the Giants were bragging what a steal it was picking him up. He must've tailed way off.
2006-09-29 22:07:26
578.   joekings
You would know Finley would get on.
2006-09-29 22:07:27
579.   Uncle Miltie
Finley is an extremely lucky hitter.

Seeing-eye single

2006-09-29 22:07:32
580.   micktissue
574 Like I said Grady for MOY!
2006-09-29 22:07:36
581.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Filthy slider.
2006-09-29 22:08:27
582.   trainwreck
Thank you Russel Martin.
2006-09-29 22:09:16
583.   trainwreck
2006-09-29 22:09:22
584.   Uncle Miltie
Saito is getting squeezed
2006-09-29 22:09:49
585.   joekings
Nothing ever comes easy.
2006-09-29 22:10:01
586.   regfairfield
Winn had no right swinging at that.
2006-09-29 22:10:24
587.   Uncle Miltie
Repko should have been playing CF...
2006-09-29 22:10:25
588.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Uh oh.
2006-09-29 22:10:30
589.   natepurcell
come oN!!!
2006-09-29 22:10:33
590.   dzzrtRatt
keep the faith. Saito will bear down here.
2006-09-29 22:10:36
591.   Vishal
aarrrrrghhh. finish them sammy!
2006-09-29 22:10:41
592.   trainwreck
Not Vizquel! He is so annoying!
2006-09-29 22:10:49
593.   Greg S
If that ball just goes a little farther, it's a double play.
2006-09-29 22:10:49
594.   Greg Brock
Bleeders and gorks all over the yard.

Not a single ball struck well. GRRR...

2006-09-29 22:11:14
595.   joekings
Vinny is having more fun than me.
2006-09-29 22:11:18
596.   capdodger
Awww... That was lousy.

Let's... Turn... Two!!

2006-09-29 22:11:23
597.   Johnny Nucleo
Ta-ber-nac. I'll bet Martin and Gagne swear in Quebecois too.
2006-09-29 22:11:35
598.   micktissue
587 Ok, maybe Grady doesn't deserve MOY ...
2006-09-29 22:11:45
599.   dianagramr
Winn is a notorious bad-ball hitter.
2006-09-29 22:12:27
600.   micktissue
Refresh is pretty slow ... lots of action on this page
Show/Hide Comments 601-650
2006-09-29 22:12:58
601.   Uncle Miltie
I have to go to the bathroom too!
2006-09-29 22:13:11
602.   BlueCrew Bruin
This season is determined to kill me.
2006-09-29 22:13:34
603.   micktissue
Omar strikes out once every ten or so at bats
2006-09-29 22:13:35
604.   joekings
2006-09-29 22:13:35
605.   Greg Brock
2006-09-29 22:13:40
606.   Uncle Miltie
Great job Lucille. Unfortunately, Winn got to 2B.
2006-09-29 22:13:45
607.   trainwreck
2006-09-29 22:13:56
608.   dzzrtRatt
That was Jeter-esque.
2006-09-29 22:14:01
609.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Oh my!
2006-09-29 22:14:03
610.   natepurcell
RAMON!!! what a catch. one more Sammy!
2006-09-29 22:14:07
611.   BlueCrew Bruin
Oh wow, that was a HUGE grab!
2006-09-29 22:14:13
612.   Nagman
How did Winn tag on that?
2006-09-29 22:14:19
613.   Bob Timmermann
If he had been Derek Jeter, he'd have fallen into the seats.

Of course, if he had done that, then the tying run would have scored.

2006-09-29 22:14:28
614.   bigcpa
That would have landed in McCourt's baseline seats!
2006-09-29 22:14:32
615.   Uncle Miltie
I forgot that Bonds came out of the game!

Walk Sweeney

2006-09-29 22:14:47
616.   Franklin Stubbs
Vinny was surprised...his reactoin called it but didn't believe it!
2006-09-29 22:15:05
617.   micktissue
Where does Ramon's nickname Lucille come from?
2006-09-29 22:15:08
618.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Giants fans gotta get all Steve Bartman on that ball. Their loss.
2006-09-29 22:15:08
619.   capdodger
Nice Reach!!!
What's Linden's Strong side?
2006-09-29 22:15:11
620.   joekings
1st base coach must have sent him.
2006-09-29 22:15:33
621.   Bob Timmermann
What else would Winn be doing on that play except standing at first?
2006-09-29 22:15:37
622.   Greg Brock
Oh, this is stupid. Walk the guy.
2006-09-29 22:16:01
623.   dzzrtRatt
probably b/c I'm so old, but every time you guys say Lucille, all I can think of is Little Richard: "Lucille!/Why don't you do your daddy's will?"
2006-09-29 22:16:51
624.   das411
2006-09-29 22:16:51
625.   dzzrtRatt
probably b/c I'm so old, but every time you guys say Lucille, all I can think of is Little Richard: "Lucille!/Why don't you do your daddy's will?"
2006-09-29 22:16:52
626.   micktissue
2006-09-29 22:16:57
627.   Uncle Miltie
2006-09-29 22:16:59
628.   trainwreck
2006-09-29 22:17:01
629.   joekings
2006-09-29 22:17:10
630.   scareduck
2006-09-29 22:17:21
631.   Brendan
2006-09-29 22:17:26
632.   xaphor
Outa-Saito :)
2006-09-29 22:17:35
633.   dianagramr
dueling passed balls anyone?
2006-09-29 22:17:44
634.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
2006-09-29 22:17:47
635.   Greg Brock
We win!
2006-09-29 22:17:52
636.   adraymond
AMAZING! I love Sammy.
2006-09-29 22:17:52
637.   dzzrtRatt
I knew it. One of his benders would freeze Sweeney. I love Saito!
2006-09-29 22:17:56
638.   micktissue
2006-09-29 22:18:04
639.   JoeyP
Even the ump bleeding a little dodger blue on those pitches to Sweeney. Nice.
2006-09-29 22:18:05
640.   natepurcell
AMAZING pitch. wow. Sammy is a gift from the Gods!
2006-09-29 22:18:14
641.   Vishal
YESSSSSS!!!! tied for first, baby!
2006-09-29 22:19:03
642.   StolenMonkey86
I love Saito.
2006-09-29 22:19:34
643.   Xeifrank
Grady sure had the midas touch late in this game. vr, Xei
2006-09-29 22:20:45
644.   capdodger
618 It looked like that popup was into the Photogs' well. The fans never had a chance.
2006-09-29 22:20:56
645.   das411
Congrats guys, things just got a LOT harder for my Phils :(
2006-09-29 22:22:34
646.   Greg Brock
I just want the Phillies to lose. I just want the Phillies to lose.

Lose, you stupid Phillies!

2006-09-29 22:22:59
647.   Uncle Miltie
640- but he might go back to Japan after this season :(

Is there any way we can make it so he can't leave the country?

2006-09-29 22:23:10
648.   xaphor
645. You can have the Pads spot. :)
2006-09-29 22:23:23
649.   micktissue
G'Night lads ... WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2006-09-29 22:23:23
650.   Steve in Rochester
...cue up the Randy Newman....

.....rollin' down....Imperial Hiiiiighway....

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2006-09-29 22:24:02
651.   JoeyP
Tomorrow's game is interesting, bc before the Dodger game starts the Phils may have already lost. So with a playoff spot assured, Little may rest his regulars. However, with the division race at hand, I dont think he'd do that.
2006-09-29 22:24:10
652.   micktissue
G'Night lads ... WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2006-09-29 22:24:37
653.   Vishal
yeah, ideally the dodgers and phillies win their last 2 games, and the padres lose theirs.
2006-09-29 22:24:52
654.   Jay Jaffe
The sound that came out of my mouth was something like YEEESSSSAAAIIIITOOOOO!
2006-09-29 22:24:56
655.   Xeifrank
Beat SF!
Beat SF!
vr, Xei
2006-09-29 22:25:27
656.   Jon Weisman
651 - Maddux should pitch no matter what, because I don't think they'll want to have him warm up and then shut him down. But Grady said on today that his goal is just to make the playoffs. He's not going to burn people for a division title pursuit.

I don't know that Nomar can play tomorrow anyway.

2006-09-29 22:26:16
657.   joekings
644- Nope, a couple of Giants fan in big orange jackets actually moved out of the way.
2006-09-29 22:26:46
658.   capdodger
647 Send him to GTMO until spring training?
2006-09-29 22:27:17
659.   Steve in Rochester
Nomar looked pretty rough when he left that game, we might not see him play for awhile.
2006-09-29 22:27:17
660.   Johnny Nucleo
Such drama in this playoff run. For the Dodgers to go from where they were two weeks after the All-Star break to where they are now - and the way they have done it - incredible. Magic number for a playoff spot is now ONE.

I have to agree with Fanerman's comment on the masthead. As a relative newcomer to this blog, I can no longer imagine what this pennant race had been like were I just sitting around watching Gameday without following the many wonderful thoughts and comments of all who post here.

2006-09-29 22:27:20
661.   Gen3Blue
I don't want to play Monday. With this teams Crips and pitching we want to rest a day and bring em on. The Mets would be fine wo/Pedro.
2006-09-29 22:27:42
662.   Greg S
We are undefeated on the road (trip) whis is impressive.
2006-09-29 22:27:47
663.   dzzrtRatt
If Fox was smart, they'd show the Phillie/Marlin game tomorrow in addition to the Giant/Dodgers.
2006-09-29 22:28:13
664.   JoeyP
He's not going to burn people for a division title pursuit.

Thats too bad.
A division title is still a championship.
Its a flag, banner, T-shirt, etc...

2006-09-29 22:28:44
665.   capdodger
644 -Ah. Do the event staff wear orange up there? I couldn't tell because my video stream turned into a video dribble right there.
2006-09-29 22:29:22
666.   Brendan
does webb pitch against padres this weekend?
2006-09-29 22:29:58
667.   Steve in Rochester
I just know there's no way I will be able to watch tomorrow's game here in Rochester. I'll be tuning into Rick & Charlie tomorrow.
2006-09-29 22:30:53
668.   dzzrtRatt
According to MLB, the D-backs have a weird pitching plan tomorrow:

"San Diego sends David Wells out to face Juan Cruz, for two innings, and then Edgar Gonzalez on Saturday in an effort to clinch at least a Wild Card berth with a win, while the Dodgers engage the Giants again in San Francisco.

2006-09-29 22:31:11
669.   DodgerDodger
2006-09-29 22:31:25
670.   BlueCrew Bruin
660 I've gotta echo that. When the game comes on, I'm almost as anxious to turn on the computer as I am to turn on the TV. It's like having a bunch of buddies over to watch the game with. Cool stuff.
2006-09-29 22:31:31
671.   Brendan
I know that the padres own the tiebreaker in a tie with the dodgers but are the dodgers considered co-champs if there is no one game playoff?
2006-09-29 22:31:51
672.   JoeyP
If the Phillies were to win their last two, and both the Pads/Dodgers lose their last two, then a playoff would ensue in which the Pads/Dodgers would literally have TWO chances to make the playoffs.

IIRC, the Pads/Dodger would play monday for the division title. The winner is in.

The loser then goes to Philly, and that winner would make the playoffs.

So basically the only way the Dodgers can NOT make the playoffs is if they lose the rest of their games and Philly wins all of theirs.

2006-09-29 22:32:56
673.   spacebrother
The milk came out my nose on that one. Good jokes are NEVER in good taste.
2006-09-29 22:32:59
674.   scooplew
Perhaps my favorite posting of the night came when the Giants had runners on first and third with one out in the ninth:

590. dzzrtRatt
keep the faith. Saito will bear down here.

Thank you, whoever and wherever you are, dzzrtRatt!

2006-09-29 22:33:50
675.   Uncle Miltie
658- lol. only bad people are sent there...guys like Danys Baez and Jeff Kent
2006-09-29 22:33:52
676.   bigcpa
Dodgers now 15-12 in Sept! Can't complain about that. With a 3 game lead on Sept 1 the Padres would have had to go 18-9 to catch us- and did.
2006-09-29 22:34:35
677.   dzzrtRatt
More from on tomorrow's D-back pitching plan. It's a little disconcerting.

Arizona manager Bob Melvin announced before Friday's game that Cruz will start on Saturday instead of rookie right-hander Edgar Gonzalez. The coaching staff has struggled to find Cruz innings of late. Melvin said he would probably only pitch two innings and then be relieved by Gonzalez. Cruz started the season as a starter, but shoulder problems coupled with the addition of Livan Hernandez, placed Cruz in the bullpen. He has not pitched since Sept. 16 and is 0-0 with a 3.32 ERA out of the 'pen over 21 2/3 innings pitched.

2006-09-29 22:34:40
678.   DodgerDodger
671 - Nope, it's the Pads. Happened to Boston last year.
2006-09-29 22:35:09
679.   Vishal
i wonder if the padres would also rest their regulars if the phillies lose. they've even got the cushion of winning the division in the event of a tie with the dodgers, right?
2006-09-29 22:35:18
680.   scooplew
Why didn't Lugo, then playing 2nd base, cover 2nd on Vizquel's foul pop-up that Martinez grabbed reaching into the stands? Winn advanced to scoring position, and a Sweeney hit could have cost us the game.
2006-09-29 22:35:52
681.   Xeifrank
668. Sounds like a good plan to me. Pitch your starter until he bats for the first time, then pinch hit for him. This way your pitcher is more likely to bat one less time.
vr, Xei
2006-09-29 22:36:26
682.   Greg S
Hey DzzrtRatt, are you actually in a desert (I assume you are not actually a rat) and if so which one?
2006-09-29 22:38:09
683.   capdodger
675 But he does terrorize the NL, so the argument could be made.
2006-09-29 22:38:11
684.   Xeifrank
680. It was a heck of a long throw. If you throw to 2nd, first of all you probably don't get him out and you run the risk of throwing the ball away, or having the runner from 3rd then try to advance once he sees the long throw to 2nd base. He did the right thing. Catch the ball, eat it and run back in and keep the runner at 3rd. vr, Xei
2006-09-29 22:40:07
685.   Fallout
680 scooplew

Good point.

2006-09-29 22:40:52
686.   oswald
strange, i can't decide whether i want the dodgers to win the division or the wild card.

division -- home field in first round and probably second given how the mets are playing.

wild card -- get to play the mets and lets padres and cards (who have a combined records of 20-5 vs. dodgers) beat the hell out of each other

any thoughts from dodger thoughts?

2006-09-29 22:40:54
687.   capdodger
680 That may be, but Lugo should have at least covered the bag so that the option is there even if you don't excercise it.
2006-09-29 22:41:41
688.   scooplew
684 That's a good explanation. Lugo is off the hook on this one.
2006-09-29 22:41:58
689.   Vishal
[682] couldn't it be dessert?
2006-09-29 22:42:55
690.   Jon Weisman
677 - Webb is scheduled to pitch Sunday. Focus on that.

New post up top.

2006-09-29 22:43:29
691.   Vishal
[686] sucks to strategery, i want us to be the division champs.
2006-09-29 22:44:22
692.   joekings
wow, the ESPN guys just said the Dodger-Giants rivalry always matters as opposed to the NY-BoSox which is only compelling if they are both doing well.
2006-09-29 22:44:23
693.   Vishal
[691] (i don't know why i felt like using a bushism, but it sounded better than the real word)
2006-09-29 22:44:30
694.   capdodger
680 687 Stated another way: Lugo's covering of second base would have increased the risk of Winn's advancement, possibly to the point where it's not worth it to try. After all, you don't want to strand the tying run at third by running into an out at second. That's got to be in Alou's book somewhere.
2006-09-29 22:44:57
695.   Fallout
664 JoeyP

Don't you want a "We Slipped into the 2006 Wild Card Spot" t-shirt?

2006-09-29 22:46:05
696.   ddger
Kuo again pitched well (2 runs were due to Lofton's misplay again). I think Kuo proved that he deserves a start in the playoffs.

Also, our suspect middle relief was outstanding. We needed every shutout innings. Grady should continue using Beimel in the 6th or 7th instead of any of our unreliable middle relievers.

2006-09-29 22:47:20
697.   Vishal
[692] i have no evidence to back this up, i think it's because our division (and the entire NL) generally has more parity, so there are fewer runaways and it tends to come down to the wire.
2006-09-29 22:50:38
698.   ddger
Since we now have Martinez back, I would prefer him playing over Lugo. At least Martinez was making positive contributions before Lugo took his place.
2006-09-29 22:51:18
699.   JoeyP
695. LOL...Do any teams fly wild card banners at their stadiums?

Part of going to a stadium is seeing a banner that says "2006" NL West champions, or "2004" NL West champions.

I think resting the starters and settling for a WC, only works out if you end up going far in the playoffs. Bc you've basically given up a chance to win something (and a division title is something to be proud of--won over 162 games) instead for a chance run at a couple games in October.

2006-09-29 22:52:35
700.   micktissue
G'Night lads ... WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2006-09-29 22:54:00
701.   BlueCrew Bruin
652 700 If that wasn't done on purpose, that has to be some kind of record for most space in between double posts.
2006-09-29 22:56:02
702.   spacebrother
Flying a wild card banner says, "we sucked less than the rest of the league," especially if you don't make it past that point...although a few wild card teams have made it all the way.
2006-09-29 22:57:46
703.   Fallout
I agree. A division championship sounds a lot better than a wild card entry.
2006-09-29 23:16:20
704.   Andrew Shimmin
But if they win the NLCS, or the WS, the banner won't be a problem.
2006-09-30 00:25:05
705.   dzzrtRatt
Actually, I spend most of my time nearer the ocean. But when I go to the desert, it's Anza-Borrego. I toy with the idea of moving there full-time, but I have to wait out my son's high school "career."

I do have faith in Saito. I can't believe this guy comes out of Japan and ends up replacing the best relief pitcher of our era, and he turns out to be basically just as good. Saito coming into a game gives me chills just like Gagne did. He just controls the hitters with those breaking balls, and he's got a mastery of the strike zone. It's such a pleasure to watch him pitch. If somehow, we had both of them next season, and they stayed healthy? Broxton-to-Saito-to-Gagne?

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