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Mets' Hernandez Might Miss Game 1 Start
2006-10-03 12:50
by Jon Weisman

Already without Pedro Martinez, the New York Mets now face the prospect that their alternate choice for Wednesday's Game 1 against the Dodgers - Orlando Hernandez - might have to miss the start because of a calf injury suffered during morning jogging. The Associated Press has the story.

Tom Glavine, slated to start Game 2, pitched Saturday in Washington. So if the Mets want to bump him up, he would be working on only three days' rest.

Randolph said he hadn't yet spoken to the 40-year-old lefty about that possibility.

Steve Trachsel, who went 15-8 with a 4.97 ERA this year, skipped his scheduled outing last weekend to attend to a family matter on the West Coast. He was due back in New York on Tuesday evening, but Randolph said the right-hander probably wasn't an option to pitch Game 1 on Wednesday afternoon.

That leaves rookie right-hander John Maine as perhaps the best option. Maine was 6-5 with a 3.60 ERA in 16 games this season, including 15 starts.

It doesn't appear that Hernandez has been officially ruled out of Game 1 - and he certainly remains likely to pitch sometime in the series.

* * *

Padres-Cardinals game chat continues in the thread below.

Comments (139)
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2006-10-03 13:00:00
1.   bhsportsguy
Trusted journalist Steve Phillips reports that if El Duque misses his start tomorrow, he would be surprised to see him pitch at all in the first round, he too sees John Maine as the only pitcher who could pitch tomorrow, Glavine threw a bullpen today and Trachsel still isn't even in New York.
2006-10-03 13:06:37
3.   MMSMikey
I will be irate if the dodgers dont come home with AT LEAST a split, they have got to get it done now.
2006-10-03 13:09:38
4.   capdodger
3 Splits are for Bananas. I want a Sweep!
2006-10-03 13:40:51
5.   ToyCannon
Let's just hope Maine isn't John Lacky. Maine has pitched okay this year and should have been pitching instead of Traschel in the 1st place.
2006-10-03 13:41:46
6.   ToyCannon
This does thin them out. Wonder if they will add Oliver Perez to the post season roster?
2006-10-03 13:59:02
7.   william
Calf injuries usually aren't a couple of day issues, so if the MRI goes bad then he'll probably miss at least the entire series.

If he does come back though, Maine-Glavine-El Duque is a stronger front 3 than El Duque-Glavine-Trachsel.

2006-10-03 14:10:26
8.   TellMeTheScoreRickMonday
Sorry, I posted #2 and didn't realize euphemisms are also illegal. All I wanted to indicate was that this story seems too good to be true, so I'm guessing that Omar and Willie (and maybe even Stevie Wonder) are playing games with us. A media conspiracy.
2006-10-03 14:15:11
9.   Padgett
According to ESPN, Glavine is also unavailable for game 1 due to the fact that he threw a full bullpen session before Hernanez tweaked his calf.
2006-10-03 14:49:04
10.   Claire Malone-Evans
I wonder if Brad Penny runs in between his starts? He might have fewer problems with his lower back if he lost a little weight.
2006-10-03 14:57:38
11.   bhsportsguy
10 I believe all pitchers run between starts.
2006-10-03 15:06:40
12.   NPB
The gods are smiling on Dodgerland. Nothing can possibly go wrong now.
2006-10-03 15:07:15
13.   50 years a Dodger Fan
11 Penny probably runs from his locker to the snack table. And I live in a glass house.
2006-10-03 15:31:19
14.   underdog
12 Ack, jinx alert! Begone, ye jinxer!
2006-10-03 15:44:17
15.   Gagne55
I hope this means that Oliver "worst pitcher in MLB" gets a start this series.
2006-10-03 15:46:04
16.   Gagne55
14 Jinxing is not disallowed by the Ten Commandments of Dodger Thought.
2006-10-03 15:52:02
17.   caseybarker
Jinxing is not allowed by the immutable laws of nature.
2006-10-03 15:54:21
18.   mattyshack
Does anyone have a guess as to what time the games will be this weekend? Historically, what times have the games started? I cant find that info anywhere.
2006-10-03 16:03:05
19.   bigcpa
[18} I think I read in the other thread here that both are slotted for 1pm PST.
2006-10-03 16:12:09
20.   Im So Blue
18 They are both tentatively scheduled for 1pm, PDT. If there's a Game 5, it would be in NY on Monday at 5pm.

If the AL series are both completed by Saturday, they might want to move the Sunday game to 5pm for TV purposes. But then if there's a game 5 on Monday, that would cut into their travel time.

But what's more important, TV scheduling or the teams' travel schedules?

2006-10-03 16:15:45
21.   underdog
Jinxing isn't officially disallowed; it just makes me nervous.
2006-10-03 16:18:03
22.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Wish me luck! I'll be at Shea tomorrow in a home-white Nomo jersey with my long Dodger-fan colleague. I'm super excited... I'm coming up all the way from Annapolis, via the train station at BWI.


2006-10-03 16:19:51
23.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh


2006-10-03 16:24:31
24.   bhsportsguy
Here is the lineup for the first two games courtesy of Josh R.

Furcal, SS
Lofton, CF
Garciaparra, 1B
Kent, 2B
Drew, RF
Martin, C
Anderson, LF
Betemit (vs. a righty)/Lugo (vs. a lefty)

Pretty much as expected, no news on final roster.

2006-10-03 16:32:10
25.   adraymond
I'll be there to Wayne, in my Dodger Blue Crew Koala shirt. With my Dodger fan buddy. Should be awesome!
2006-10-03 16:34:45
26.   BlueMamma
20 - tv scheduling, i'm sure, is more important than travel schedules.

oh i hope i hope i hope that the weekend games start later in the afternoon...

2006-10-03 16:36:48
27.   dzzrtRatt
Do we really have to go over to Bronx Banter to chat about the Yankee game? That's a scary neighborhood at night.
2006-10-03 16:38:32
28.   underdog
27 If they're losing it will be...
2006-10-03 16:40:19
29.   dzzrtRatt
Actually, I just opened it up, and didn't see any f-words anywhere. Maybe there's been some urban renewal.

Of course, A-Rod hasn't been up to bat yet.

2006-10-03 16:42:11
30.   Bluebleeder87
i'm willing to go over there if you guys are, what do you say??
2006-10-03 16:44:03
31.   Daniel Zappala
I'll be chatting about the NY-Detroit game here, or any other thread Jon creates for that purpose. I'm a PG-only guy.
2006-10-03 16:44:37
32.   Bluebleeder87
s.d lost so let's go jinks the YANKS!!! :o)
2006-10-03 16:51:34
33.   Bluebleeder87
Good point 31
2006-10-03 16:59:01
34.   Xeifrank
This is the most lively Mets blog I could find. Nothing compared to Jon's or anything on the Toaster. If anyone knows of a better one, please post it.
They seem more worried about their pitching mess than anything else. Who can blame them. Not one mention about the Dodgers.
vr, Xei
2006-10-03 17:02:48
35.   Daniel Zappala
2006-10-03 17:03:23
36.   mattyshack
Dodgers in 5. We take the 1st, 3rd, and 5th game!
2006-10-03 17:16:46
37.   NPB
It's not a jinx if the comment is ironic.
2006-10-03 17:17:13
38.   dzzrtRatt
If the Mets can't come up with a credible starter for game 1, a sweep is not inconceivable.

Lowe vs. Scrubeeni -- If Lowe stays hot, and Scrubeeni fails, as expected.

Kuo vs. Glavine -- Kuo is the kind of pitcher this Met team doesn't hit well, and he's full of vim and vigor, whereas Glavine is tired. Mets have a good shot here, but a Dodger win wouldn't be a shock.

Maddux vs. Maine -- At home, Maddux is pitching at a level seldom seen in our lifetimes. Nobody's perfect, but he has to be the favorite.

The deeper into the series we get, the more the odds shift to the Mets. So the Dodgers should be thinking very opportunistically.

2006-10-03 17:28:29
39.   Bob Timmermann
Those text messages on my phone today really made the games come alive. I'm sure they will do the same tomorrow!
2006-10-03 17:30:25
40.   trainwreck
I had no idea Robertson was starting game 1 for the Tigers. How many innings till the Yankees get 10 runs?
2006-10-03 17:32:09
41.   Bob Timmermann
So they changed the language on Gameday today?

And nobody told me?

2006-10-03 17:39:18
42.   Jon Weisman
27 - You can chat here if you want. Happy to have you. Just figured that the liveliest chat would be at the participating team's blog.
2006-10-03 17:42:18
43.   Bob Timmermann
I'm still at work so I should I have a PG-rated chat up.
2006-10-03 17:47:24
44.   dzzrtRatt
42 It's pretty boring. I mean, we're a bunch of fans here, too, and during games we probably post a lot of exhortations; but there is at least the possibility of an analytical comment or an entertaining aside during a slow moment.

Anyway, I don't think they're looking for input from a Yankee-hating troll like me.

2006-10-03 17:52:54
45.   Bob Timmermann
I'll try to figure out later why Magglio Ordonez was trying to steal third.
2006-10-03 17:55:07
46.   bhsportsguy
45 Say hi to incoming UCLA superstar Kevin Love at the Rose Bowl on Saturday.
2006-10-03 17:56:53
47.   das411
WOAH that was a cool commercial!
2006-10-03 17:57:03
48.   Bob Timmermann
Actually I don't think I need a bicycle to get to the Rose Bowl, but my friend coming from the Westside who is going to meet me is going to run in to some hellacious traffic.
2006-10-03 17:58:59
49.   OaklandAs
RotoWorld is reporting that Joe Beimel cut his hand in his hotel room, and might have to be left off the postseason roster:

2006-10-03 17:59:38
50.   dzzrtRatt
Matsui does a Lance Niekro, playing umpire and quitting on a ball hit to him.
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2006-10-03 18:03:16
51.   Bob Timmermann
I don't think Lance Niekro is famous enough to do anything worthwhile of being called "pulling a Lance Niekro."
2006-10-03 18:03:51
52.   dzzrtRatt
Apparently, they were planning to leave Billingley off the roster. Beimel's injury opens a slot for Chad...or Hendrickson, according to

Beimel on the injury:

"I got up, went to the faucet in the bathroom, got the drink, was going to set down the glass, and it slipped out of my hand and I tried to catch it and wound up just spiking it into the sink," said Beimel.

"I thought it was just a cut, but when I looked at it, it was really deep. I wish I had a better story, like I was trying to save a baby or something. This is just crazy how it happened."

Hello? Bottled water? Who drinks tap water in a hotel?

2006-10-03 18:05:08
53.   dzzrtRatt
51 Probably not. The memory of his non-play on Furcal's soft hit down the rightfield line is still fresh in my mind, but within a week, I won't remember anything about it, or him.
2006-10-03 18:05:34
54.   Bob Timmermann
Apparently all the pitchers on the Dodgers and Mets are trying to hurt themselves in ways like a 1960s era teenager trying to avoid the draft.
2006-10-03 18:07:11
55.   fanerman
52 - Maybe Billingsley will be our postseason savior.
2006-10-03 18:07:21
56.   Sam DC
Hmmm . . . I have no break between comment 50 and 51. Just like that Ken to pick the first day of the playoffs to start reprogramming.

Heck of a double play there.

Warning about Oliver Perez. He was channeling Kuofax in the last game of the season v. the Nationals. Now, the Nats were clearly distracted and flat, but then again, they've been a strong offensive team since the Queen City Massacre.

2006-10-03 18:07:49
57.   fanerman
52 - Also, I wouldn't drink tap water from a hotel either.
2006-10-03 18:08:17
58.   Sam DC
The comment break is back.

I haven't read the earlier threads yet so sorry if this has been worked over already.

2006-10-03 18:11:34
59.   Bob Timmermann
I drink tap water from hotels a lot. I'm not picky.
2006-10-03 18:15:18
60.   Sam DC
I have a confession to make. I've been trying all day to figure out how to put it (a day off gives you a chance to actually think through your comments).

Here it is.

I'm rooting for the Yankees to make it to the World Series. And if it's not the Dodgers, I'll probably be rooting for them to win.

Why? Because I think they're way the best team. And I really like watching their high-PPA good-eye hitters grind through opposing starting pitching. And then, on the personality front, they've got Bobby Abreu and A-Rod, two really great yet sort of weirdly unloved and maligned players.

Finally (and I know this is the one that has you guys petitioning Ken to revoke my credentials), I've always loved watching Gary Sheffield hit. Even though he's rather a prig.

Sorry, I just couldn't keep it in any longer.

2006-10-03 18:16:05
61.   D4P
I drink tap water from hotels a lot. I'm not picky

I would have expected better from a Prius owner...

PS: I don't care for the Yankees

2006-10-03 18:16:29
62.   trainwreck
Tap water is regulated, while bottle water is not.
2006-10-03 18:16:54
63.   trainwreck
2006-10-03 18:17:29
64.   fanerman
I hate the Yankees but I actually like A-Rod.
2006-10-03 18:19:44
65.   fanerman
I also appreciate the way the Yankees hit. It hurts to say that.
2006-10-03 18:21:34
66.   Telemachos
Game over. Yanks win.
2006-10-03 18:23:49
67.   D4P
Tap water is regulated, while bottle water is not

Nothing is regulated these days. Regulating is anti-American. Regulators hate our freedom.

2006-10-03 18:24:54
68.   dzzrtRatt
59 Yes, but we don't need your left hand to neutralize Carlos Delgado.

60 That's the first time I've seen Sheffield described as a "prig." That's a term I usually see applied to colonial-era ministers.

2006-10-03 18:28:03
69.   Andrew Shimmin
60- I shall make it the focus of my remaining years that your dreams will go unfulfilled.
2006-10-03 18:28:41
70.   dzzrtRatt
62 Tap water is regulated from the point of distribution, but there is no control over the "last mile," from the city to your tap. That's where a lot of contamination, including mold and lead, can reach your body. In your own home, you might be able to control that. In a hotel, not so much.

Actually, I drink tap water too. My point was, hotel glasses are dangerous. Didn't Kobe Bryant cut himself on one...somebody in the NBA?

2006-10-03 18:30:40
71.   fanerman
70 Check. And. Mate!
2006-10-03 18:32:17
72.   Bob Timmermann
When I go on vacation, I will drink water only by sticking my head under the tap in the hotel sink.

That could be uncomfortable. Perhaps I will just my hand. I don't think I could cut my hand on running water.

2006-10-03 18:32:51
73.   D4P
I hope you tap-water-drinkers at least filter it through some kind of Brita-esque filtration system prior to consumption
2006-10-03 18:32:52
74.   Andrew Shimmin
The Dodgers should stay at motels with plastic cups.
2006-10-03 18:33:42
75.   Disabled List
70 My point was, hotel glasses are dangerous. Didn't Kobe Bryant cut himself on one...somebody in the NBA?

You might be thinking of OJ Simpson. He cut his finger on a hotel glass the night his ex-wife was murdered.

Presented without commentary.

2006-10-03 18:33:52
76.   D4P
I don't think I could cut my hand on running water

I didn't think a person could cut their hand while shaving, until OJ came along...

2006-10-03 18:34:02
77.   Bob Timmermann
Plastic cups wrapped in plastic. And preferably places where there's a paper band around the toilet too.

And a pay TV.

2006-10-03 18:34:08
78.   Andrew Shimmin
73- I filter my tap water through a colander full of spinach and room temperature chicken skin.
2006-10-03 18:34:19
79.   fanerman
And this is first rift in the once united Dodger Thoughts. From now on Dodger Thoughts is a two-party system. Taps and Botts.
2006-10-03 18:34:43
80.   Bob Timmermann
75 76
You two need to get your stories straight ...
2006-10-03 18:38:19
81.   Disabled List
80 You two need to get your stories straight ...

Hey, tell it to OJ!

2006-10-03 18:39:18
82.   D4P
tell it to OJ!

He's tough to reach, what with his ongoing search for the "real killer" and all

2006-10-03 18:39:54
83.   D4P
Sheesh, you might as well start smoking again...
2006-10-03 18:41:14
84.   das411
79 - Where are the Whigs?!?
2006-10-03 18:42:27
85.   caseybarker
Soda pop!
2006-10-03 18:43:06
86.   Daniel Zappala
Not one person thinks the Beimel Incident (sounds like a Ludlum novel) is worth getting upset over? This is really bad news!
2006-10-03 18:48:54
87.   caseybarker
It depends on who replaces hime on the roster.
2006-10-03 18:50:13
88.   capdodger
86 Please... After the LOOGY-trips-and-sprains-his-ankle-while-walking-down-the-stairs story last year, nothing is surprising.

Which pitcher was that?

2006-10-03 18:52:54
89.   Bob Timmermann
Kelly Wunsch!
2006-10-03 18:59:52
90.   trainwreck
After what has happened to the Mets it is hard to complain.
2006-10-03 19:00:25
91.   Daniel Zappala
But Beimel was one of our best relievers this year!
2006-10-03 19:01:01
92.   Greg S
86 I do. This is not good. I didn't see it discussed but the LA Times ran an article today about how strong the Dodger bullpen is. To give you an idea of the credibility of the story, it included Tomko as a strength.
I believe our middle relief is our one and only glaring weakness. Our middle relief is hanging by a thread and that thread is Joe Beimel. With the Mets so vulnerable to Lefties, he was only that much more important. I'll let them have El Duque back if we can have Beimel back.
2006-10-03 19:01:11
93.   Daniel Zappala
And Beimel is a lefty against a Mets team that can't hit lefties!
2006-10-03 19:02:21
94.   Bob Timmermann
Beimel's story reminds me of my trip to the SABR convention this summer when I stuck my finger right on top of a razor blade and made a fairly deep cut in my finger. I didn't have anything to stop it and had to sleep with my hand wrapped in toilet paper and facial tissue.
2006-10-03 19:02:30
95.   capdodger
90 Remember that this is the NYC media we're dealing with here. El Duque probably was running, felt a pain and then got taken in for examination because the Mets have adequate trainers. Media sees the game one starting pitcher going in for a checkup, and they instantly push their A-Rod bashing column below the fold.
2006-10-03 19:04:27
96.   D4P
What better place to get cut then at a SABR convention...
2006-10-03 19:04:37
97.   Andrew Shimmin
Hendrickson has been terrific over his last 7 2/3 innings. I expect that to continue.
2006-10-03 19:06:11
98.   D4P
Having a lineup in which A-Rod bats 6th doesn't seem fair
2006-10-03 19:07:16
99.   underdog
Aiyeee. Say it ain't so Joe.

I guess the next time I cut my hand in some bizarre spastic manner I'll say I "pulled a Beimel."

I hope Hendrickson can fill in adequately and that Kuo can be effective. El Duque's more important to the Mets than Beimel is to LA, but this still could come close to counterbalancing the earlier news.

2006-10-03 19:08:13
100.   Greg S
Seriously. Tap water in a New York hotel room? These days, most luxury hotels leave a gigantic bottled water in the room. The only catch is that if you drink it, they charge you like $5. Come on Beimel, you're making enough now! Treat yourself!
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2006-10-03 19:10:35
101.   Bob Timmermann
There's no sense crying over spilled blood.
2006-10-03 19:13:36
102.   bhsportsguy
86 I don't think it helps but I hope that it somehow is okay tomorrow morning.

I found this interesting especially the part about who paid the bill, its long so I will edit, to see the whole thing go to today's notes in

NEW YORK -- Management's theory on what turned around the Dodgers' season has less to do with home plates and more to do with dinner plates.
The season's low point was the 13th loss in 14 games coming out of the All-Star break, a July 26 game in which center fielder Kenny Lofton lost a first-inning fly ball in the sun at Dodger Stadium and cameras caught pitcher Brad Penny and Lofton in a finger-pointing dugout spat.

"We lost that game on a Wednesday and came into the clubhouse," recalled third-base coach Rich Donnelly, "and [manager] Grady [Little] says, 'We've got a day off Monday when we fly to Cincinnati, and we're all going to dinner. All of us. Everybody. It's mandatory.'"

Maddux had not yet joined the club when it was being bussed to the world famous Cincinnati barbeque rib emporium, Montgomery Inn, where acting traveling secretary Billy DeLury, who began working for the Dodgers in Brooklyn, had arranged reservations for 40.

Every player showed up. Little kept the mood light with a brief welcome, then it was slabs of ribs, bottles of beer and a collection of frustrated ballplayers becoming a team.

"I think it did a lot for us," Little said of the team dinner. "I wanted everyone there and I think it told everyone exactly what I thought about somebody pointing fingers: Don't do it. Penny picked up the bill, like $5,000. And the same day, Maddux showed up, so it was a big day for us."

Derek Lowe said the dinner was a turning point.

"We were struggling, and there was the mishap with the two players, and Grady thought it would be good to get everyone together," said Lowe. "I'm a fan of team dinners. You can come closer together in ways you can't do just being on the field. I'd say it definitely helped."

2006-10-03 19:15:28
103.   bhsportsguy
102 My only question is that the team wouldn't pay for the meal if they had ordered everyone to go to dinner? I guess the guys got to keep their per diem that day.
2006-10-03 19:15:37
104.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, I've eaten at the Montgomery Inn.

I didn't get ribs as I don't like them much.

The tab for $5000 doesn't surprise me.

2006-10-03 19:15:45
105.   capdodger
Good save by Buck there to finish McCarver's two-out Monroe Story.
2006-10-03 19:18:44
106.   caseybarker
Tax write-off for Penny--business dinner.
2006-10-03 19:19:52
107.   Greg S
103. That was basically Grady's version of a fine for Penny's poor behavior. Instead of just fining him (which the team can do) they made him pay for dinner. Sounds like a great move to me.
2006-10-03 19:32:22
108.   underdog
I shouldn't make fun - you're talking to someone who has sliced off the tips of two different digits, once with a cheese slicer, the other (when I was a teen) with a pocket knife that slipped - and cut myself again with broken glass in the sink. Still, if I was a high-paid ballplayer I'd spring for the spring water.
2006-10-03 19:32:42
109.   bhsportsguy
107 Its not clear that Penny was made to pay for dinner, it certainly can be interpreted that way.

I think dinner for 40 in most Manhatten restaurants would cost around the same with drinks and service.

2006-10-03 19:32:59
110.   caseybarker
Hey, Tim McCarver still thinks the Dodgers' last postseason win was in 1988. Apparently, he missed 2004.
2006-10-03 19:34:48
111.   Eric L
107 I'm not sure I buy into all that stuff (ooh, team morale), but it seems like Grady is a bit sharper than folks give him credit for.
2006-10-03 19:35:56
112.   Vishal
[60] blasphemy.
2006-10-03 19:42:22
113.   Greg S
107 Grady did tell him he was paying. I heard the story at the time it happened. I'm sure he was okay with the whole thing. That kinda thing is not just for team morale but also to remind everybody that the inmates don't run the asylum- completely.
2006-10-03 19:43:02
114.   FirstMohican
110 - I think he said postseason series win.
2006-10-03 19:46:02
115.   LeeLacy
Do we know anything more specific about Beimel's injury? Was the gash on his palm? Was it on his fingers? Because if he seriously cut his fingers, I'm guessing the recovery period would be longer because it would seriously affect his grip on the ball (though I don't pretend to be a physician).

In any case, not good news. Beimel, along with Broxton and Saito, are the only relievers in whom I have trust, notwithstanding the LA Times' effort to get us to believe that Tomko adds "solid middle relief."

2006-10-03 19:48:05
116.   das411
Time for "God Bless America" for those watching DET/NYY...
2006-10-03 19:49:04
117.   Greg S
That's the link to the Beimel story with some details.
2006-10-03 19:55:17
118.   Bob Timmermann
From my re-examining my thoughts about St. Louis-San Diego, I think I'm backing the Redbirds.

I just can't take the chance of the Padres winning.

Jeff Weaver is starting a playoff game this year. That's hard to believe.

2006-10-03 20:01:03
119.   trainwreck
Grady seems to forget that Sele is not really any good, especially out of the bullpen.
2006-10-03 20:06:04
120.   Greg Brock
If you're wondering, it's been about twenty minutes since Buck and Tim made ONE comment about the Tigers. The Tigers are also playing, by the way.
2006-10-03 20:08:16
121.   willhite
I suggest we hire a private jet to bring Hamulack to NY in case Beimel can't go tomorrow.
2006-10-03 20:20:56
122.   bhsportsguy
One of more interesting stats in the Postseason media guide is this one, record in games where the team led after 8 innings, 78-2, which of course means after the blow-up in San Diego on April 30th, the team won every time they entered the 9th with a lead.

I'm not sure what that means as far as the importance of closers, the team had a losing record for games when they were tied after 8 innings, 6-8.

2006-10-03 20:22:22
123.   bhsportsguy
Another stat for those who don't like the quality start, the team's record when a starter went 6 innings or more and allowed 3 earned runs or less, 61-19.
2006-10-03 20:24:57
124.   thinkingblue
Just read Bimel's story. Unbelievable. That cannot be a good omen :(.
2006-10-03 20:31:40
125.   Greg S
124 Can Pedro and Dookie going down be a good omen?
2006-10-03 20:34:58
126.   Bob Timmermann
In the 1998 World Series, the Yankees played Trevor Hoffman and Kevin Brown.

If they weren't in the game, nothing else mattered.

2006-10-03 20:40:41
127.   thinkingblue
Interesting point, with all the home run power the mets have, you know which pitching staff has given up the least home runs in baseball this year? The dodgers. Or so I've heard, if anyone can confirm this.
2006-10-03 21:16:22
128.   capdodger
Maybe Beimel can be like our Schilling, only instead of a bloody sock, he'll have a spray of blood flying from his hand on every pitch. It might distract the batters some.

On second thought....

2006-10-03 21:18:16
129.   Samuel

at least in the NL they've given up the fewest HRs. didn't bother to check in the AL.

2006-10-03 21:19:14
130.   bhsportsguy
Jeff Kent just gave the longest interview I have heard on the radio, he did not say anything special but the fact that he spoke for 6-7 minutes was surprising.
2006-10-03 21:23:50
131.   thinkingblue
Line up at inside the dodgers has one flaw. Saenz won't start against Glavine apparently. Why Grady, WHY? Saenz clearly eats leftys alive, and you're going with Lugo istead? C'MON! This is the playoffs, you need your BEST in there.
2006-10-03 21:28:30
132.   scooplew
122 There was also the May 13 game in San Francisco in which we blew a 5-2 in the 9th when the Giants scored four runs (two earned) against Baez and we lost 6-5.
2006-10-03 21:30:56
133.   scooplew
129 We also gave up the fewest homers in the major leagues, not just the NL.
2006-10-03 21:35:20
134.   D4P
the fact that he spoke for 6-7 minutes was surprising

Must have been talking about motocross

2006-10-03 21:36:42
135.   Bob Timmermann
However the Dodgers gave up more hits than any other LA Dodgers team. But I think that was more an effect of the team having pitchers who didn't walk a lot of guys.
2006-10-03 21:38:36
136.   underdog
132 That's just because I was at that game. ;-)
2006-10-03 22:13:59
137.   Greg S
131 Because defense matters too. Do does speed (or a total lack of it). So does maintaining a bench. Saenz is a great pinch hitter. He is not a great position player.
2006-10-03 22:52:52
138.   Linkmeister
From the Beimel story linked above, regarding the number of stitches:

"I didn't ask," Beimel said. "I didn't look and didn't want to know."


Actually, having once broken a ring finger and having the painkillers injected between it and the pinkie, I can understand his lack of interest.

2006-10-03 23:00:40
139.   50 years a Dodger Fan
131 Lugo is Little's 2006 Pedro. Love is a many splintered thing. (deliberate spelling)
2006-10-03 23:59:45
140.   dzzrtRatt
139 I choose a different approach to Lugo. The guy has been a much better hitter and fielder than he showed the Dodgers. In part, it's because the Dodgers gave him a completely different role than the one he'd played for several years. Little thinks there's more potential there. Lugo did show a few flashes in the final week, especially in SF.

It's really not comparable anyway. Pedro was a superstar that Little deferred to when deciding what to do in that Yankee game. Lugo is nobody's idea of a superstar; he's a role player, but in short series, a role player can be decisive.

You can't really argue too much about Little's use of Saenz this season. It's always been said that playing the field too much would wear him down. Tracy ignored that advice-probably out of necessity. Little took that advice to heart and made him a great situational pinch hitter, and in that role, he won several games for us.

In short, I think Little deserves the benefit of the doubt going into the series. We can always Monday morning quarterback him to death if they lose.

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